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Re: [Wlug] deleting a file named "--exclude"

by Mike Frysinger

On Friday 14 October 2005 07:12 am, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 08:25:24PM +0200, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > hey guys, this would seem rather basic. How to delete a file, but i > > have a problem. I want to delete a file called "--exclude". Any > > ideas? > > Heh. I used to ask this on interviews. ;) > > "rm -- --exclude" although most tools nowadays support --, you could also do: rm ./--exclude -mike

Oct. 14, 2005

Re: [Wlug] deleting a file named "--exclude"

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I cheat and let Konqueror delete it for me. Right click...MoveToTrash. :-) - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDT6LSHl0iXDssISsRAr6CAJ9tN15Myew9r21QqCTpydGjVIBUAgCfRsgF fiwwT+X8P6YEO6xlIMLmGNY= =+/h3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Oct. 14, 2005

Re: [Wlug] deleting a file named "--exclude"

by Karl Hiramoto

Thanks, Actually i figured it out after doing some RTFM rm --help even showed how to do it. Theo Van Dinter wrote: >On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 08:25:24PM +0200, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > >>hey guys, this would seem rather basic. How to delete a file, but i >>have a problem. I want to delete a file called "--exclude". Any ideas? >> >> > >Heh. I used to ask this on interviews. ;) > >"rm -- --exclude" > > > >># rm -i * >>rm: unrecognized option `--exclude' >> >> > >the shell expanded * to include --exclude which reads as an option. > > > >># rm -f "--exclude" >>rm: unrecognized option `--exclude' >> >> > >ditto. > > > >># rm -f \-\-exclude >>rm: unrecognized option `--exclude' >> >> > >ditto. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- -- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> US VOIP: (+1) 603.966.4448 Spain Casa (+34) 951.273.347 Spain Mobil (+34) 617.463.826 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto jabber.org=karl_hiramoto

Oct. 14, 2005

Re: [Wlug] deleting a file named "--exclude"

by Theo Van Dinter

On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 08:25:24PM +0200, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > hey guys, this would seem rather basic. How to delete a file, but i > have a problem. I want to delete a file called "--exclude". Any ideas? Heh. I used to ask this on interviews. ;) "rm -- --exclude" > # rm -i * > rm: unrecognized option `--exclude' the shell expanded * to include --exclude which reads as an option. > # rm -f "--exclude" > rm: unrecognized option `--exclude' ditto. > # rm -f \-\-exclude > rm: unrecognized option `--exclude' ditto. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." - Douglas Adams

Oct. 14, 2005

deleting a file named "--exclude"

by Karl Hiramoto

hey guys, this would seem rather basic. How to delete a file, but i have a problem. I want to delete a file called "--exclude". Any ideas? # ls -la total 1648 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 642617 Sep 27 13:54 --exclude drwxr-xr-x 15 karl users 4096 Oct 13 20:16 . drwxr-xr-x 4 karl users 4096 Oct 11 18:17 .. drwxr-xr-x 7 karl users 4096 Sep 27 13:59 .svn # rm -i * rm: unrecognized option `--exclude' Try `rm --help' for more information. # rm -f "--exclude" rm: unrecognized option `--exclude' Try `rm --help' for more information. # rm -f \-\-exclude rm: unrecognized option `--exclude' Try `rm --help' for more information. -- -- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org>

Oct. 13, 2005

RE: [Wlug] Finding more detail defined settings.

by Keller, Tim

I went to Google and entered in "Explanation of tcpip settings in /proc" and this was the first hit I got back, which has what I think you are looking for... http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.kernel.obscure.html Tim. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Aramico Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:38 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Finding more detail defined settings. All, can u please help me here..... Where can I get more detail about the description and function for configuration files placed at /proc/sys/net/ipv4 the directory contents of these bellow listed files dr-xr-xr-x 7 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 icmp_echo_ignore_all -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 icmp_ignore_bogus_error_responses -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 icmp_ratelimit -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 icmp_ratemask -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 igmp_max_memberships -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_gc_maxtime -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_gc_mintime -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_maxttl -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_minttl -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_threshold -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_autoconfig -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_conntrack_max -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_default_ttl -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_dynaddr -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_forward -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ipfrag_high_thresh -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ipfrag_low_thresh -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ipfrag_time -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_local_port_range -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_nonlocal_bind -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_no_pmtu_disc dr-xr-xr-x 6 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 neigh dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 route -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_abort_on_overflow -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_adv_win_scale -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_app_win -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_dsack -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_ecn -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_fack -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_fin_timeout -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_keepalive_intvl -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_keepalive_probes -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_keepalive_time -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_max_orphans -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_max_syn_backlog -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_max_tw_buckets -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_mem -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_orphan_retries -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_reordering -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_retrans_collapse -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_retries1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_retries2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_rfc1337 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_rmem -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_sack -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_stdurg -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_synack_retries -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_syncookies -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_syn_retries -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_timestamps -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_tw_recycle -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_window_scaling -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_wmem thanks :) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Finding more detail defined settings.

by Jeff Kinz

On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:38:16PM +0700, Aramico wrote: > All, can u please help me here..... > > > > Where can I get more detail about the description and function for > configuration files placed at > /proc/sys/net/ipv4 Most of the best /proc/ documentation is available on your system. /usr/src/linux-2.4/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt Contains assorted, but limited, information about all aspects of the /proc/ directory. /usr/src/linux-2.4/Documentation/sysrq.txt An overview of System Request Key options. /usr/src/linux-2.4/Documentation/sysctl/ A directory containing a variety of sysctl tips, including modifying values that concern the kernel (kernel.txt), accessing file systems (fs.txt), and virtual memory use (vm.txt). /usr/src/linux-2.4/Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.txt, A look at various IP networking options. /usr/src/linux-2.4/ Some of the most authoritative information on /proc/ can be found by reading the kernel source code. Make sure the kernel-source RPM is installed on your system and look in the /usr/src/linux-2.4/ directory for the source code. Adjust the kernel name (linux-2.4) to whatever is appropriate on your system. > > the directory contents of these bellow listed files > dr-xr-xr-x 7 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 conf > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 icmp_echo_ignore_all > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 > icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 > icmp_ignore_bogus_error_responses > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 icmp_ratelimit > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 icmp_ratemask > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 igmp_max_memberships > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_gc_maxtime > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_gc_mintime > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_maxttl > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_minttl > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_threshold > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_autoconfig > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_conntrack_max > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_default_ttl > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_dynaddr > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_forward > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ipfrag_high_thresh > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ipfrag_low_thresh > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ipfrag_time > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_local_port_range > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_nonlocal_bind > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_no_pmtu_disc > dr-xr-xr-x 6 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 neigh > dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 route > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 > tcp_abort_on_overflow > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_adv_win_scale > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_app_win > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_dsack > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_ecn > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_fack > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_fin_timeout > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_keepalive_intvl > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_keepalive_probes > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_keepalive_time > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_max_orphans > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_max_syn_backlog > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_max_tw_buckets > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_mem > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_orphan_retries > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_reordering > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_retrans_collapse > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_retries1 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_retries2 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_rfc1337 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_rmem > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_sack > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_stdurg > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_synack_retries > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_syncookies > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_syn_retries > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_timestamps > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_tw_recycle > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_window_scaling > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_wmem > > > thanks > > :) > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- speech recognition software was used in the composition of this e-mail Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. Â¡Ya no mas!

Oct. 13, 2005

Finding more detail defined settings.

by Aramico

All, can u please help me here..... Where can I get more detail about the description and function for configuration files placed at /proc/sys/net/ipv4 the directory contents of these bellow listed files dr-xr-xr-x 7 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 icmp_echo_ignore_all -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 icmp_ignore_bogus_error_responses -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 icmp_ratelimit -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 icmp_ratemask -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 igmp_max_memberships -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_gc_maxtime -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_gc_mintime -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_maxttl -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_minttl -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 inet_peer_threshold -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_autoconfig -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_conntrack_max -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_default_ttl -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_dynaddr -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_forward -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ipfrag_high_thresh -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ipfrag_low_thresh -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ipfrag_time -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_local_port_range -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_nonlocal_bind -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 ip_no_pmtu_disc dr-xr-xr-x 6 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 neigh dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 route -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_abort_on_overflow -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_adv_win_scale -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_app_win -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_dsack -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_ecn -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_fack -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_fin_timeout -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_keepalive_intvl -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_keepalive_probes -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_keepalive_time -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_max_orphans -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_max_syn_backlog -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_max_tw_buckets -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_mem -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_orphan_retries -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_reordering -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_retrans_collapse -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_retries1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_retries2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_rfc1337 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_rmem -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_sack -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_stdurg -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_synack_retries -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_syncookies -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_syn_retries -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_timestamps -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_tw_recycle -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_window_scaling -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 13 21:06 tcp_wmem thanks :)

Oct. 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Seeking someone to install SuSE Linux

by Robert Schwein

Actually, the SuSE distro may have been a fortuitist gift for him. On July 8, 2004 Novell had become the first networking infrastructure vendor to reach an agreement with the U.S. General Services Administration to participate in the SmartBUY program for government-wide software purchasing. As of today, for many reasons including security, Novell's networking infrastructure software (SuSE is part of this) is still the only off-the-shelf software of this category in the SmartBUY program. The sole provider of open source software in the SmartBUY program, Novell offers three Linux bundles - a desktop solution, a "starter pack" server solution for smaller departmental deployments, and a more managed/full featured server solution for large environments. Vista has been around for over a decade and runs on various OS platforms. However, over the past year the government (initially the Veterans Administration) has been slowly replacing its Windows, and small islands of *n(i,u)x installations with SuSE. The only reason I happen to have any familiarity with this is because about a year ago the Federal Court system in this area asked me to migrate them off of RedHat and Windows over to SuSE. I was surprised but when I dug into what was going on, I understood. With WINE and Mono providing the Windows and .NET support on SuSE, the government is moving at an ever increasing rate in adopting the SuSE distro. Bob Andy Stewart wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Jared Greenwald wrote: > > >>I'm surprised that no one has suggested ubuntu (ubuntulinux.org) I >>had that installed on my Compaq Evo N600c for a while before reverting >>back to Gentoo. (I'm normally a Gentoo user everywhere, but Ubuntu is >>just so easy, quick and painless I had to give it a shot.) I'd have >>to say its about the easiest distro to install. There is even a >>version that comes with KDE pre-setup called Kubuntu (kubuntu.org) >> >>You can even try the livecd to see if it can detect all the hardware >>on your laptop. The standard (non-livecd) installer uses the same >>logic to do the install, so if the livecd works the real install >>should as well. The thing that will take time is the actual download >>of the livecd and installer cd. >> >>-Jared >> >> > >HI gang, > >I'm not certain if Mel truly has a preference for SuSE or if he >mentioned that because of the CDs I gave to him (I suspect the latter). > Clearly there are a lot of good choices and Ubuntu is one of them. His >interest in the VistA open source medical software may be driving this >decision. > >Later, > >Andy > >- -- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA, USA >http://www.wlug.org > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > >iD8DBQFDSIkUHl0iXDssISsRAl4VAJ9iTjykbVCf77K9+juUq4xy286PXQCffFiw >CEZW0Y5LuKnvY98nOVxb9dE= >=6X99 >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >

Oct. 10, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Seeking someone to install SuSE Linux

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jared Greenwald wrote: > I'm surprised that no one has suggested ubuntu (ubuntulinux.org) I > had that installed on my Compaq Evo N600c for a while before reverting > back to Gentoo. (I'm normally a Gentoo user everywhere, but Ubuntu is > just so easy, quick and painless I had to give it a shot.) I'd have > to say its about the easiest distro to install. There is even a > version that comes with KDE pre-setup called Kubuntu (kubuntu.org) > > You can even try the livecd to see if it can detect all the hardware > on your laptop. The standard (non-livecd) installer uses the same > logic to do the install, so if the livecd works the real install > should as well. The thing that will take time is the actual download > of the livecd and installer cd. > > -Jared HI gang, I'm not certain if Mel truly has a preference for SuSE or if he mentioned that because of the CDs I gave to him (I suspect the latter). Clearly there are a lot of good choices and Ubuntu is one of them. His interest in the VistA open source medical software may be driving this decision. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDSIkUHl0iXDssISsRAl4VAJ9iTjykbVCf77K9+juUq4xy286PXQCffFiw CEZW0Y5LuKnvY98nOVxb9dE= =6X99 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Oct. 9, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Seeking someone to install SuSE Linux

by Jared Greenwald

I'm surprised that no one has suggested ubuntu (ubuntulinux.org) I had that installed on my Compaq Evo N600c for a while before reverting back to Gentoo. (I'm normally a Gentoo user everywhere, but Ubuntu is just so easy, quick and painless I had to give it a shot.) I'd have to say its about the easiest distro to install. There is even a version that comes with KDE pre-setup called Kubuntu (kubuntu.org) You can even try the livecd to see if it can detect all the hardware on your laptop. The standard (non-livecd) installer uses the same logic to do the install, so if the livecd works the real install should as well. The thing that will take time is the actual download of the livecd and installer cd. -Jared On 10/8/05, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > HI everybody, > > Mel Korman came to his first WLUG meeting this past Wednesday asking for > our help to get Linux installed on his laptop. Those of us who attended > the meeting thought that his RedHat 9.0 might be too old for its > installer to comprehend the external USB hard drive on which he had > hoped to copy Linux, so I gave Mel the SuSE 9.3 Pro CDs which I had at > the time, in the hope that he'd have a better time with the installation. > > Mel gave it a try at home but things are not working. Mel has offered > to pay someone who would be willing to get Linux installed on his > Thinkpad laptop (where Windows is also installed). If you are > interested in helping Mel, please contact him directly at > finkor(a)verizon.net. > > Thanks! > > Andy > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFDSHK/Hl0iXDssISsRArRmAJ0Un4pgNxJiSyTCuZxUe+nwZUwXYACcDfCM > h5XKfY0Z2l6BDNMDEiPuTwQ= > =ja0u > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Oct. 9, 2005

Seeking someone to install SuSE Linux

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, Mel Korman came to his first WLUG meeting this past Wednesday asking for our help to get Linux installed on his laptop. Those of us who attended the meeting thought that his RedHat 9.0 might be too old for its installer to comprehend the external USB hard drive on which he had hoped to copy Linux, so I gave Mel the SuSE 9.3 Pro CDs which I had at the time, in the hope that he'd have a better time with the installation. Mel gave it a try at home but things are not working. Mel has offered to pay someone who would be willing to get Linux installed on his Thinkpad laptop (where Windows is also installed). If you are interested in helping Mel, please contact him directly at finkor(a)verizon.net. Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDSHK/Hl0iXDssISsRArRmAJ0Un4pgNxJiSyTCuZxUe+nwZUwXYACcDfCM h5XKfY0Z2l6BDNMDEiPuTwQ= =ja0u -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Oct. 9, 2005

Meeting minutes from earlier this week

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, We had our meeting in one of the rooms right off of the Morgan Hall dining area. I think there were 7 or 8 of us, with two newcomers (welcome!). The discussion started with GRUB and some of its more interesting features vs. LILO, such as command line editing and adding graphics to the background. I had made a GRUB bootable CD prior to the meeting. GRUB has a large number of features, and we touched on only a few. After that, we somehow ended up on the topic of VNC: http://www.realvnc.com http://www.tightvnc.com <-- There was also interest in the "suspend to disk" feature of my laptop, which actually worked in a live demo. One person asked if it was possible to do this on a desktop machine (I don't think so....). In addition, Mel K. (newcomer) brought his laptop, onto which he wanted to install RedHat 9.0, which was having trouble recognizing his external USB hard drive. I gave Mel my SuSE 9.3 pro CDs and asked him to give that a try. Mel said that he'd keep us apprised of his progress. Pizza / soda followed at the Tech Pizza restaurant where we've gone after the last several meetings. Mel mentioned that he has interest in VistA (open source medical software). Try http://www.vistasoftware.org and google turns up other seemingly related links. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDRx4CHl0iXDssISsRAgHDAJ9ZQ4B0Morwv7EcxvAicO9fCxl2LgCdFxFg 5z9ZHpXjfJMuedYXi0ySZMI= =fVQp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Oct. 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Meeting minutes from earlier this week

by Jon Gaudette

Andy Stewart wrote: > > There was also interest in the "suspend to disk" feature of my laptop, > which actually worked in a live demo. One person asked if it was > possible to do this on a desktop machine (I don't think so....). > Hi Everyone, I have lurked for a while now, but first post to this list. Just wanted to say that the "suspend to disk" feature is available on a desktop machine. With Gentoo I use the 'suspend2-sources', and have had no problems with hibernating both my Athlon 64 desktop computer, nor Pentium3 laptop. A good howto is available on the Gentoo Wiki site, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Software_Suspend_v2 The instructions are fairly informative, that even non-Gentoo users should be able to use the howto as a stepping stone to getting the feature into their kernel. Hope this is of some help. -- Jon Gaudette

Oct. 7, 2005