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Re: [Wlug] Somewhat Off-topic - vpsland.com

by Karl Hiramoto

Post to the list a review if you try it. I personally am looking for a hosting solution for under $100/ month and the virtual servers seem to be the most economical now. What i personally need is full root access, 15+ GB of disk, 100+ GB of xfer, 256+M of RAM. I've been looking around for something for a while, but have not made the leap yet. --- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk=karl.hiramoto(a)gmail.com ------ Adam Keck wrote: > Hello All, > > I am thinking about web/ssh/etc. hosting with vpsland.com. They > host via Xen virtual machines. Has anyone had any experience with > them? Does anyone use them currently? Does anything about them look > fishy? > > Thanks, > > > - Adam > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Brian Waite

On Saturday 17 December 2005 3:01 pm, howard(a)howardwhite.net wrote: > >I'm very new to Linux and I'm not a technical person. But I've learned > >enough about Linux to know it rocks (thanks Bob!) and to know I want a > >new Linux laptop. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor? Replies off > >list are welcomed. > > > >Thanks! > >Marie > > Ihave just (Thursday) picked up my new Linux laptop from PCs forEveryone in > Cambridge.. I bought my Linux desktop from them in April.Good quality, > essentially custom made. I have SuSe Pro 10 on mine. > > They are at PCSFOREVERYONE.com, I think, and they're right near the > Cambridgeside Galleria. > > HW We busy a lot of systems from PCSFOREVERYONE.com preinstalled with Linux. They are very good and will test the whole system for incompatabilities. We recently bought our first laptop from them and it has been pretty good, but it has only had light duty for a few months now. I highly reccommend them. PS if you are using it for meetings, you may not want to choose the Spartan laptop. The keys are a bit flimsy and lound but otherwise have good responsivness. Thanks Brian

Dec. 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Bill Smith

Le Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:29:12 -0500 (EST) "Mike" <mwp(a)sdf.lonestar.org> a écrit: > Marie, > I constantly see http://www.emperorlinux.com/ in the Linux magazines > that I frequently read, however I can't say I've ever bought one from > them. Emperor offers a variety of "distros" including my favorite > "Ubuntu". > > Their prices seem a bit high, but might make a good point of > reference at the least. I saw them at a Linux show last year... They had a booth there. They seem to have a decent spread of hardware, whether you want the system for Day-to-Day work or for specialized work (they had a laptop there, for example, that was rigged to do 3D! Very nice...). I agree that their prices are a little high, but given that most laptop hardware always seem to have a few "quirks", it may be worth it. > Being strapped for cash myself I decided to get a used laptop on Ebay > and trust my luck. For just a few bills I got a Compaq Armada M700 > (which I am writing this email on right now). It's processor is only > a P3 @ 1GHz, but I appreciate it more and more everyday. Ubuntu Linux > installed flawlessly on it and I even got a Belkin 802.11b/g wifi > card working without a hitch. Excellent... :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com

Dec. 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] openVPN??

by Karl Hiramoto

Yes, I have been using http://openvpn.net/ for about 6 months on a linux server. I switched from using pptp, and am very happy. It works much better with linux clients than pptp. For windows clients there is a gui interface, that is ok. But it was nice that pptp was built into windows. Ken Jones wrote: > Have any of us implemented SSL VPN client-to-network tunneling using a > Linux openvpn server? I am trying to create a plan for implementing SSL > VPN access to a city school district. > > Ken Jones > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- --- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk=karl.hiramoto(a)gmail.com ------ - A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. -- William James

Dec. 21, 2005

Somewhat Off-topic - vpsland.com

by Adam Keck

Hello All, I am thinking about web/ssh/etc. hosting with vpsland.com. They host via Xen virtual machines. Has anyone had any experience with them? Does anyone use them currently? Does anything about them look fishy? Thanks, - Adam

Dec. 21, 2005

openVPN??

by Ken Jones

Have any of us implemented SSL VPN client-to-network tunneling using a Linux openvpn server? I am trying to create a plan for implementing SSL VPN access to a city school district. Ken Jones

Dec. 21, 2005

Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 26, Issue 12

by guest

I can get you a refurbed Thinkpad T20 series (P3 700 - 1000) with Fedora Core 3 (for example) loaded for about $350 to $450. You request the hw/os config you need. Or if you want to put it together yourself on an auction-purchased unit, you may be able to get it for less. Please contact me off-list if you are interested. Louis Rouleau temljrmjrlmr(a)comcast.net wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor (Mike) > 2. Re: Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor (Michael Long) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:29:12 -0500 (EST) >From: "Mike" <mwp(a)sdf.lonestar.org> >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Message-ID: > <52446.66.30.144.252.1134926952.squirrel(a)webmail.bitbistro.org> >Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > >Marie, >I constantly see http://www.emperorlinux.com/ in the Linux magazines that >I frequently read, however I can't say I've ever bought one from them. >Emperor offers a variety of "distros" including my favorite "Ubuntu". > >Their prices seem a bit high, but might make a good point of reference at >the least. > >Being strapped for cash myself I decided to get a used laptop on Ebay and >trust my luck. For just a few bills I got a Compaq Armada M700 (which I am >writing this email on right now). It's processor is only a P3 @ 1GHz, but >I appreciate it more and more everyday. Ubuntu Linux installed flawlessly >on it and I even got a Belkin 802.11b/g wifi card working without a hitch. > >Hope this helps, >Mike > > ><quote who="Mims Research"> > > >>Hello, >> >>I'm very new to Linux and I'm not a technical person. But I've learned >>enough about Linux to know it rocks (thanks Bob!) and to know I want a >>new Linux laptop. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor? Replies off >>list are welcomed. >> >>Thanks! >>Marie >>mimsresearch(a)gmail.com >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> > > >

Dec. 20, 2005

Re: [Wlug] DNS/MX Question

by Mike Frysinger

On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 11:33:58AM -0500, Michael Zarozinski wrote: > I'm new at this Linux thing this isnt really a "Linux" question ... it depends on who is hosting your DNS servers and if it's you, it largerly depends on what package you are using to run the DNS servers also, your DNS server probably only controls the forward lookup (i.e. the DNS -> IP step) ... you'll have to coordinate with whoever owns your IP space to get the reverse lookup (IP -> DNS step) to work > * Server 'P' is only used for hosting the games. It has the FQDN > "AllinPlay.com" AllinPlay.com. 86400 IN A 1.2.3.4 this would declare the name "AllinPlay.com" should resolve to the IP "1.2.3.4" and that DNS servers can cache the results for 24 hours (the number is specified as timeout in seconds) > * Server 'D' only has an IP (no FQDN). > - I'd like 'D' to be accessable via a subdomain such as: > devel.allinplay.com devel.allinplay.com. 86400 IN A 1.2.3.5 > - I'd like 'D' to handle all the mail for the allinplay.com domain. > Users will get the mail from 'D' via a client such as Thunderbird allinplay.com. 86400 IN MX 10 devel.allinplay.com. this says that all e-mail for the allinplay.com domain should be sent to the server devel.allinplay.com the 10 is a preference value ... useful if you have multiple servers for load balancing or fault tolerance tolerence > So my confustion comes in as to how to set the DNS/MX/A/AAA records. If > anyone can shed some light on this I'd be very greatful! you could use the 'dig' tool (which is normally packaged as "bind-tools" in distributions) to figure out what other people do for example: $ dig wlug.org .... ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;wlug.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: wlug.org. 259200 IN A 130.215.130.21 ... $ dig wlug.org MX ... ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;wlug.org. IN MX ;; ANSWER SECTION: wlug.org. 259200 IN MX 10 smtp.wpi.edu. wlug.org. 259200 IN MX 20 mx.wpi.edu. ... -mike

Dec. 20, 2005

DNS/MX Question

by Michael Zarozinski

Hi all, I'm new at this Linux thing and have a few questions about some servers I'm setting up. We have 2 dedicated servers which we have complete control over. One server is our production server (I'll call this server 'P') used to host our online games (AllinPlay.com) the other is for development, testing, email, etc (I'll call this server 'D'). These are physically seperate machines. Here's how I'd like to set them up: * Server 'P' is only used for hosting the games. It has the FQDN "AllinPlay.com" * Server 'D' only has an IP (no FQDN). - I'd like 'D' to be accessable via a subdomain such as: devel.allinplay.com - I'd like 'D' to handle all the mail for the allinplay.com domain. Users will get the mail from 'D' via a client such as Thunderbird So my confustion comes in as to how to set the DNS/MX/A/AAA records. If anyone can shed some light on this I'd be very greatful! Thanx! Michael Z

Dec. 20, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Michael Long

> I constantly see http://www.emperorlinux.com/ in the Linux magazines that I have never used emperorlinux.com but have purchased from pcforeveryone.com with great success. They have a very responsive tech support group for any mishaps which may occur. They offer several linux distributions. I have been using SuSE for many years and am happy with it. I have installed the Ubuntu distribution on my 4 year old son's laptop and he really likes the games available on it. Good luck, Mike

Dec. 19, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Mike

Marie, I constantly see http://www.emperorlinux.com/ in the Linux magazines that I frequently read, however I can't say I've ever bought one from them. Emperor offers a variety of "distros" including my favorite "Ubuntu". Their prices seem a bit high, but might make a good point of reference at the least. Being strapped for cash myself I decided to get a used laptop on Ebay and trust my luck. For just a few bills I got a Compaq Armada M700 (which I am writing this email on right now). It's processor is only a P3 @ 1GHz, but I appreciate it more and more everyday. Ubuntu Linux installed flawlessly on it and I even got a Belkin 802.11b/g wifi card working without a hitch. Hope this helps, Mike <quote who="Mims Research"> > Hello, > > I'm very new to Linux and I'm not a technical person. But I've learned > enough about Linux to know it rocks (thanks Bob!) and to know I want a > new Linux laptop. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor? Replies off > list are welcomed. > > Thanks! > Marie > mimsresearch(a)gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Emacs would be a far better OS if it shipped with a halfway-decent text editor. --Anonymous

Dec. 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mims Research wrote: > Sorry, I don't know what a Linux ditro is. Yes, I am looking for a > reliable vendor that offers laptops with Linux pre-installed. Any advice > on the desktop program, i.e. which is better? Lindows? Red Hat? > Linspire? and all the others out there? At the moment, I'm using Open > Office, Thunderbird and Firefox on an old 98SE Dell Inspiron 3500, still > ticking after all these years but slow. Additionally, down the road I > will be researching video capture and editing suites (open source or > otherwise) suitable for a Linux environment, but for now I'll be happy > with the basics--an office suite, email and browsing. My bottom line is > migrating from dependency on proprietary operating systems, versatility > and reliability. > > Thanks! > Marie > mimsresearch(a)gmail.com HI Marie, A "Linux distro" (short for distribution) is a collection of Linux software packaged up for ease of use. Such distributions include SuSE (Novell), RedHat, Debian, Ubuntu, and many, many others. These distributions are sometimes available in boxed sets, CDs, or download. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDpYnsHl0iXDssISsRAiERAKCAAYQNpb3t8aP8wd74+WWr2igBwQCeLWmk jmI2/QKTAaj51yaY9Bka+SI= =iq14 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by howard＠howardwhite.net

>Sorry, I don't know what a Linux ditro is. Yes, I am looking for a >reliable vendor that offers laptops with Linux pre-installed. Any advice >on the desktop program, i.e. which is better? Lindows? Red Hat? >Linspire? and all the others out there? Sorry; I both mistyped and used a slang term. A *distro* is a distribution, in this case of an operating system variant. I use SuSe Linux Pro, which my vendor installed for its price of ~$60. >Additionally, down the road I >will be researching video capture and editing suites (open source or >otherwise) suitable for a Linux environment, I know of only one, MainActor, which has a price and which I've never been able to get working very well. > but for now I'll be happy >with the basics--an office suite, email and browsing. SuSe as installed comes with OpenOffice, at least as good as Microsqush office. It also includes Firefox browser. HW

Dec. 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Mims Research

Sorry, I don't know what a Linux ditro is. Yes, I am looking for a reliable vendor that offers laptops with Linux pre-installed. Any advice on the desktop program, i.e. which is better? Lindows? Red Hat? Linspire? and all the others out there? At the moment, I'm using Open Office, Thunderbird and Firefox on an old 98SE Dell Inspiron 3500, still ticking after all these years but slow. Additionally, down the road I will be researching video capture and editing suites (open source or otherwise) suitable for a Linux environment, but for now I'll be happy with the basics--an office suite, email and browsing. My bottom line is migrating from dependency on proprietary operating systems, versatility and reliability. Thanks! Marie mimsresearch(a)gmail.com > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:23:00 -0500 >From: Jared Greenwald <greenwaldjared(a)gmail.com> >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Message-ID: > <2759cf860512170723g6a694243r811a5eccd4f653fc(a)mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Are you asking about a linux ditro that's well suited to a laptop or a >laptop vendor that offers laptops with linux pre-installed? > >-Jared > >On 12/17/05, Mims Research <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>Hello, >> >>I'm very new to Linux and I'm not a technical person. But I've learned >>enough about Linux to know it rocks (thanks Bob!) and to know I want a >>new Linux laptop. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor? Replies off >>list are welcomed. >> >>Thanks! >>Marie >>mimsresearch(a)gmail.com >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> > > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >End of Wlug Digest, Vol 26, Issue 10 >************************************ > > >

Dec. 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Linux & memory sticks

by Karl Hiramoto

Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I have a hinted that a memory stick would be a nice stocking stuffer > this year. Any recommendations for a 1 GB stick for use (mostly) on > linux? > > Can I format a FAT partition for Windows use, too? I have a 1G "SanDisk" and "Apacer" brands and have had no problems with them. The SanDisk came with NTFS preformated, i just formated back to FAT32 to use with both linux and windows. --- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk=karl.hiramoto(a)gmail.com ------ - BOFH Excuse #286: Telecommunications is downgrading.

Dec. 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Linux & memory sticks

by Mike Frysinger

On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 11:45:53AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Can I format a FAT partition for Windows use, too? sure, just grab the dosfstools package and you can format good old dos partitions or every version of fat if your distro doesnt supply it, you can find it here: ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/Linux/LOCAL/dosfstools/ -mike

Dec. 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by howard＠howardwhite.net

> >I'm very new to Linux and I'm not a technical person. But I've learned >enough about Linux to know it rocks (thanks Bob!) and to know I want a >new Linux laptop. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor? Replies off >list are welcomed. > >Thanks! >Marie Ihave just (Thursday) picked up my new Linux laptop from PCs forEveryone in Cambridge.. I bought my Linux desktop from them in April.Good quality, essentially custom made. I have SuSe Pro 10 on mine. They are at PCSFOREVERYONE.com, I think, and they're right near the Cambridgeside Galleria. HW

Dec. 17, 2005

Linux & memory sticks

by Bill Mills-Curran

I have a hinted that a memory stick would be a nice stocking stuffer this year. Any recommendations for a 1 GB stick for use (mostly) on linux? Can I format a FAT partition for Windows use, too? Thanks, Bill

Dec. 17, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Jared Greenwald

Are you asking about a linux ditro that's well suited to a laptop or a laptop vendor that offers laptops with linux pre-installed? -Jared On 12/17/05, Mims Research <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm very new to Linux and I'm not a technical person. But I've learned > enough about Linux to know it rocks (thanks Bob!) and to know I want a > new Linux laptop. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor? Replies off > list are welcomed. > > Thanks! > Marie > mimsresearch(a)gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 17, 2005

Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Mims Research

Hello, I'm very new to Linux and I'm not a technical person. But I've learned enough about Linux to know it rocks (thanks Bob!) and to know I want a new Linux laptop. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor? Replies off list are welcomed. Thanks! Marie mimsresearch(a)gmail.com

Dec. 17, 2005

Re: [Wlug] logging level in syslog

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Gregory Avedissian wrote: > How do I increase the amount of information that gets logged in > /var/log/messages in suse 9.3? From what I can gather, I need to edit > /etc/sysconfig-ng/sysconfig-ng.conf.in. > > Is it just a matter of changing this line - > filter f_warn { level(warn, err, crit) and not filter(f_iptables); }; > > > To this? > filter f_warn { level(debug, info, notice, warn, err, crit) and not > filter(f_iptables); }; > > > Or would I edit /etc/sysconfig/syslog? > # Default loglevel for klogd > # > KERNEL_LOGLEVEL=1 > > If so, what number should replace "1"? > > Or something else? > > The reason I want to do this is to help a friend diagnose a problem with > lockups. Sometimes one program locks up, and sometimes the whole computer > locks up, and the reset button is the only way out. It happens when she > gets a lot of stuff running (e.g. several firefox tabs, several gedit > tabs, konqueror, and gimp-with many edits on the same file.) There's > nothing useful in the system log right before this happens. > > Thanks, > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > HI Greg, In my system (SuSE 9.2), in /etc/sysconfig/syslog, it mentions the log level for klogd. The man page for klogd describes the log level setting. The man page mentions "KERN_ERR", which I didn't know what that was, so I grepped for "KERN_ERR" in the Linux source code. I found it in linux-<ver>/include/linux/kernel.h (and if I had read the whole man page, I'd have learned this without grepping for it). #define KERN_EMERG "<0>" /* system is unusable */ #define KERN_ALERT "<1>" /* action must be taken immediately */ #define KERN_CRIT "<2>" /* critical conditions */ #define KERN_ERR "<3>" /* error conditions */ #define KERN_WARNING "<4>" /* warning conditions */ #define KERN_NOTICE "<5>" /* normal but significant condition */ #define KERN_INFO "<6>" /* informational */ #define KERN_DEBUG "<7>" /* debug-level messages */ Now, with regard to debugging lockups, I have had (unfortunately) some small experience with this. Here are some things to initially check: 1) run memtest for 24 hours and make sure the memory isn't flaky 2) make sure the motherboard has the most recent BIOS 3) setup a serial console to some other machine 4) enable more logging (you're trying to do that now...) 5) pray to $DEITY that the problem just goes away...forever! 6) make sure your hardware is properly cooled (CPU, video card, hard drives, etc) I hope this helps, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDo18cHl0iXDssISsRAvxLAJsGFEzXNbUzMhBY9rSpuNsTv/8FHACePUwT jtBPDJBUMd4STQVfAQHICeY= =OxbA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 17, 2005

logging level in syslog

by Gregory Avedissian

How do I increase the amount of information that gets logged in /var/log/messages in suse 9.3? From what I can gather, I need to edit /etc/sysconfig-ng/sysconfig-ng.conf.in. Is it just a matter of changing this line - filter f_warn { level(warn, err, crit) and not filter(f_iptables); }; To this? filter f_warn { level(debug, info, notice, warn, err, crit) and not filter(f_iptables); }; Or would I edit /etc/sysconfig/syslog? # Default loglevel for klogd # KERNEL_LOGLEVEL=1 If so, what number should replace "1"? Or something else? The reason I want to do this is to help a friend diagnose a problem with lockups. Sometimes one program locks up, and sometimes the whole computer locks up, and the reset button is the only way out. It happens when she gets a lot of stuff running (e.g. several firefox tabs, several gedit tabs, konqueror, and gimp-with many edits on the same file.) There's nothing useful in the system log right before this happens. Thanks, Greg

Dec. 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Walt Sawyer wrote: > After last nights meeting, I figured that I'd use KDE. I've used KDE on > other machines and I liked it. Unfortunately, some stuff doesn't seem > to work. For instance, on my gnome desktop, when I plug in my external > USB hard drive, it shows up on the gnome desktop, but not on my KDE > desktop. While I could've gotten around that, it also cannot be found > in Konquerer, or even from a command line! That's the only thing I've > found so far. I did notice that some apps were there and working when > they didn't exist or didn't work on gnome. So I will keep using gnome > on my Fedora Core 4 laptop, until I find a better one. > Walt HI Walt, I'm not quite sure *how* to make it work, but I do remember having the functionality that you described in KDE. In fact, I remember turning it off(!) because I didn't care for it - gotta love the choices in Linux. ;-) However, I can't remember how I disabled it, either. My guess would be that this has something to do with hotplug and /etc/fstab for starters. I'm not quite sure about the KDE hook. Later, Andy > > > > > On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 16:09 -0500, Keith Wright wrote: > >>>From: Ken Jones <jonesj(a)ziplink.net> >>> >>>Per the suggestion of Chuck Anderson I logged in under a new >>>account. GNOME desktop worked just as it should. So I removed >>>all of the /home/kjones/.gconf directory and logged in again as >>>myself. >>> >>>Still it did not work correctly. In particular the right click >>>on empty space did not work. >>> >>>I did a "diff -r" on the two (now default versions I suppose) .gconf >>>directories. They seemed the same save for unique identifiers. Where >>>do I look to find the differences? >> >>Calls to xmodmap in your .bash*, .xinitrc, or startx setup files? >>If the buttons don't work in the program, maybe the >>program is fine, but somebody moved the buttons. >> >>This is just a random guess, of course. I have never seen >>an empty space on any desktop of mine. >> >> --Keith >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDohcFHl0iXDssISsRAnerAJ4qMDqYC02Ps/yli2wQwXnOjSwPeACfQLN5 IXwjx3KnCK3j4LwYa47ALHk= =tR9B -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME

by Walt Sawyer

After last nights meeting, I figured that I'd use KDE. I've used KDE on other machines and I liked it. Unfortunately, some stuff doesn't seem to work. For instance, on my gnome desktop, when I plug in my external USB hard drive, it shows up on the gnome desktop, but not on my KDE desktop. While I could've gotten around that, it also cannot be found in Konquerer, or even from a command line! That's the only thing I've found so far. I did notice that some apps were there and working when they didn't exist or didn't work on gnome. So I will keep using gnome on my Fedora Core 4 laptop, until I find a better one. Walt On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 16:09 -0500, Keith Wright wrote: > > From: Ken Jones <jonesj(a)ziplink.net> > > > > Per the suggestion of Chuck Anderson I logged in under a new > > account. GNOME desktop worked just as it should. So I removed > > all of the /home/kjones/.gconf directory and logged in again as > > myself. > > > > Still it did not work correctly. In particular the right click > > on empty space did not work. > > > > I did a "diff -r" on the two (now default versions I suppose) .gconf > > directories. They seemed the same save for unique identifiers. Where > > do I look to find the differences? > > Calls to xmodmap in your .bash*, .xinitrc, or startx setup files? > If the buttons don't work in the program, maybe the > program is fine, but somebody moved the buttons. > > This is just a random guess, of course. I have never seen > an empty space on any desktop of mine. > > --Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- See http://www.goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/attach.html

Dec. 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME

by Keith Wright

> From: Ken Jones <jonesj(a)ziplink.net> > > Per the suggestion of Chuck Anderson I logged in under a new > account. GNOME desktop worked just as it should. So I removed > all of the /home/kjones/.gconf directory and logged in again as > myself. > > Still it did not work correctly. In particular the right click > on empty space did not work. > > I did a "diff -r" on the two (now default versions I suppose) .gconf > directories. They seemed the same save for unique identifiers. Where > do I look to find the differences? Calls to xmodmap in your .bash*, .xinitrc, or startx setup files? If the buttons don't work in the program, maybe the program is fine, but somebody moved the buttons. This is just a random guess, of course. I have never seen an empty space on any desktop of mine. --Keith

Dec. 15, 2005