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How fast is your CD burner with Linux ?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, I asked this question at the most recent WLUG meeting. I've noticed that my CD burner (according to K3B) averages about 24X, even though it is advertised as a 48X CD burner. Is this to be expected, or do I have a cheap(er) drive that can't sustain the data rate? It is an IDE/ATAPI drive (NEC3550). It takes approx. 4 minutes for me to burn a 700MB CD (including some fiddling and diddling about calibrating power, fixating, etc). I use Memorex CD-R media (52X, 700MB, 80 min). I'm curious about your CD buring experiences, especially if they are faster than mine. I'd like to know what drive you have, the media you use, and most importantly, how did you determine your drive speed? Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEQDWxHl0iXDssISsRAleKAJ9te/Y/JJJilRrsM7l3iHSwO3H9qwCfanO+ y6iI3UzEL8uI6wnYM8yfWYU= =lp+Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 14, 2006

Raffle prize - who won the Gagne book ?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, I don't remember who won the book "Moving to Linux - Kiss the Blue Screen of Death Goodbye" by Marcel Gagne. The book originally came with a CD which I had removed. The winner didn't get the CD because I couldn't find it last night. I have found the CD and would like to give it to the raffle winner. Whomever that may be, please send me an email. Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEPso4Hl0iXDssISsRAqFoAJ41GaOvmT8CVBTyQc44eWOFJUxQSACfTDDj gOsto+WlX+f1IjV6cfq7hTY= =P1BC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Meeting topic

by John Stoffel

Eric> The stands on the two LCDs are not built for this. It sounds Eric> interesting though. We just got some Samsung SyncMaster 204bs here at work. 20" LCD monitors, nice and bright and crisp. 1600x1200 native resolution, Analog and DVI inputs you can flip between easily. Monitor has a stand (and Windows software) where you can flip the screen 90 degrees to go from wide to tall aspect. It's very nice. I'm thinking of getting some for home at some point, if only because of the space savings on the desks. John

April 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Meeting topic

by Eric Stein

The stands on the two LCDs are not built for this. It sounds interesting though. Eric Andy Stewart wrote: > At work, we have a few folks with dual LCDs (only 1280x1024 resolution, > though). They have rotated the monitors 90 degrees so they are longer > from top to bottom, and then put the two monitors side by side. This > seemed strange to me at first, but the folks who did it like the > arrangement. > > This was just a thought for your consideration. > > Andy

April 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Meeting topic

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eric Stein wrote: > Yeah, it's sitting here in my dorm room single-monitored right now. I > can't stop thinking about the dual monitor setup I'll have going by > tomorrow night... > Eric At work, we have a few folks with dual LCDs (only 1280x1024 resolution, though). They have rotated the monitors 90 degrees so they are longer from top to bottom, and then put the two monitors side by side. This seemed strange to me at first, but the folks who did it like the arrangement. This was just a thought for your consideration. Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEPcXOHl0iXDssISsRAnDFAKCJ1UkUfX1IPEikVDnkyezQp5esbQCeMZKL 3LVkpBrafinRGvyxVwRWtFg= =TvSM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Meeting topic

by Eric Stein

Yeah, it's sitting here in my dorm room single-monitored right now. I can't stop thinking about the dual monitor setup I'll have going by tomorrow night... Eric Andy Stewart wrote: > Two LCDs - is this a home setup? Sweet! :-) > > Andy

April 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Meeting topic

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eric Stein wrote: > As I'm getting a second LCD in the mail tomorrow, I'm probably going to > bring up Xorg/Xinerama dual head setups. I hope somebody will know > something more than I do :) > Eric Two LCDs - is this a home setup? Sweet! :-) Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEPcSPHl0iXDssISsRAm73AJkBKsOt2kHjuXJxNFHXwSeg4GiNTACeIaWZ KJs4c8LisVrFKiAmIvOvYoY= =BxsN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Meeting topic

by Eric Stein

As I'm getting a second LCD in the mail tomorrow, I'm probably going to bring up Xorg/Xinerama dual head setups. I hope somebody will know something more than I do :) Eric Mike Leo wrote: >Not a technical one, but I have been coming to meetings for maybe a year now, and have not had a >chance to introduce myself, and more importantly, haven't found out who you all are. > >With no topic tonight, can we just have an re-introduction of the members so we know who these >emails are coming from? > >thanks > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Tonight's meeting

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 rich(a)richardklein.org wrote: > I've never been to a WLUG meeting before. It's okay for a member of the > general public to just show up, right? Hi Rich, The meetings are open to the public, so feel free to join us! There are no fees of any kind, unless you choose to make a small voluntary donation. I generally put a plastic penguin container on the back table, and sometimes folks put a couple of bucks in there to defray the cost of the soda and cookies which I usually bring to a meeting. The closest thing we have to a membership list is our mailing list. People (un)subscribe at their leisure. As far as hazing, we don't bother. Living in a Microsoft dominated world is hazing enough, don't you think? :-) Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEPW5WHl0iXDssISsRAvrpAJ9rZbKzILxQilczLQ3oUdIweKVg9QCghIgd 5lBHbmbv8asx8IGqxwipMPU= =9eUs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Tonight's meeting

by Mike Leo

I am only answering for Andy as it is late in the day and I wanted to make sure you had a chance to get this before it was too late... I just showed up the first time as well, and they didn't beat me or make me run Windows as punishment, so I think it is OK! This is a good bunch of folks and I'm sure you will be welcome, and someone is always there to help out with problems...I'll be bringing up RH Clustering myself. Hope to see you there. Mike --- rich(a)richardklein.org wrote: > I've never been to a WLUG meeting before. It's okay for a member of the > general public to just show up, right? > > On a different note, I was trying to set up the Cyrus mail server under Suse > 9.2 and have been having a hell of a time with it. I set it aside about 2 > weeks ago and haven't gotten back to it. If I bring the PC with me, would > anyone be able and willing to help me configure Cyrus properly (or maybe the > problem's with PAM - I don't know)? I suppose I could set it up at home for > someone to access via VNC or something, too. > > Thanks, > -- Rich > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Tonight's meeting

by Mike Frysinger

On Wednesday 12 April 2006 15:26, rich(a)richardklein.org wrote: > I've never been to a WLUG meeting before. It's okay for a member of the > general public to just show up, right? anyone and everyone is welcomed -mike

April 12, 2006

Meeting topic

by Mike Leo

Not a technical one, but I have been coming to meetings for maybe a year now, and have not had a chance to introduce myself, and more importantly, haven't found out who you all are. With no topic tonight, can we just have an re-introduction of the members so we know who these emails are coming from? thanks

April 12, 2006

Low-spec [Re: Recycling centers]

by Jamie Guinan

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Andy Stewart wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Patrick Sawyer wrote: > > We can always use working monitors, a p1 or p2 may be too old to be of > > any use though. > > We can also give tax receipts for donations. > > Another thought: I've found that machines around 233 MHz can be used as > Linux thin clients (LTSP). The issue with machines of this vintage is > whether or not the video card can display a sufficient resolution to be > useful with modern software. Heh, lately I've been tinkering with my first 32-bit PC, a 386DX/25 with 8MB ram, 1.44MB floppy, and an old SMC Ethernet card. I can boot 2.6.15 on it, with uClibc+busybox from the buildroot project (like Andy's RouterBoard), and still have around 200K on the floppy for apps/data. One thing that bugs me is that /proc/cpuinfo shows only 3.08 bogomips, but according to this I should be getting ~3.92, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/BogoMips/bogo-list.html#AEN244 I should check the overclockers sites, maybe some LEDs would make it go faster. ;) Granted, I wouldn't have use for 10 of these, but I like to keep a few old systems around just for fun. Anyway, I hope to make it to tonights meeting. I saw someone mention PDAs a few messages ago - I picked up an Agenda VR3 from some job lot outfit on eBay a few weeks ago. A failed product in the market, but I had always wanted one in my collection. Haven't really played with it yet, so I can't talk much about it, but I can bring it for show and tell. -Jamie

April 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu CD's

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eric Stein wrote: > I actually suspect that the Ubuntu Livecd is based on Ubuntu. Maybe it's > just a hunch :P > Eric In a sense, we're both right, I think. Take a look at the Live CD and see how it works. I'm pretty sure I saw "Knoppix technology" in there when I last looked. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEPPsdHl0iXDssISsRAnWwAJ9NZaK/30JULVtu9RnI/slzKd7vbwCePGln 8qEjYfpEQg7MOCL0O267YaA= =5s/g -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu CD's

by Eric Stein

I actually suspect that the Ubuntu Livecd is based on Ubuntu. Maybe it's just a hunch :P Eric Andy Stewart wrote: > I'll second the nomination for Knoppix as an excellent tool for teaching > Linux, especially at the user level. I use it for the class I teach and > the studets really enjoy taking it home and experimenting. I suspect > that the Ubuntu Live CD probably is based on Knoppix. > > Remember: you learn the most when teaching others. > > Later, > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org

April 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu CD's

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Adam Keck wrote: > On Apr 11, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Mike Leo wrote: > > >>I made the mistake of offering a linux basics class at work. >> > > > Since when is teaching a class on Linux a mistake! ;-) I agree! :-) I'll second the nomination for Knoppix as an excellent tool for teaching Linux, especially at the user level. I use it for the class I teach and the studets really enjoy taking it home and experimenting. I suspect that the Ubuntu Live CD probably is based on Knoppix. Remember: you learn the most when teaching others. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEPIEHHl0iXDssISsRAuR6AJ40x576cG5h07i5etsnM/iPNLDNLgCfSkG6 u201tCG+32YLtpFEJgnEwjo= =FflR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu CD's

by Mike Leo

Thats all good info! My plan is similar, but to use the Ubuntu liveCD during the class, and let them take their copy home with them. Who ever brings a laptop can participate in the hands on parts of the class (which I haven't made up yet) via the liveCD. Ill have an overhead with the slide's on it and can dump out to a terminal when needed. nice link, too..i might just modify that to my environment. Andy ordered a nice pile of the last Ubuntu...maybe he can do it again with dapper dan (or whatever its called). thanks --- Adam Keck <ghostis(a)mac.com> wrote: > > On Apr 11, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Mike Leo wrote: > > > I made the mistake of offering a linux basics class at work. > > > > Since when is teaching a class on Linux a mistake! ;-) > > Actually, I have taught two such classes to the front-line admins at > work. Of the two, the far more successful class used floater laptops > booted with Knoppix. Knoppix much reduced the setup time and allowed > me to keep the floater laptop guy happy by not blowing away the XP > installs on the machines. I highly recommend it for teaching. I had > various network services serving up a complete environment to the > student machines; all the machines were on an isolated network in the > conference room. I used a USB key to store the net service config > files as well as the course material. I presented the class material > in PDF to the student laptops with Apache. Everyone plugged in a > floater, booted their Knoppix CD, and then browsed to the class > material on my machine. I can't find the text I used anymore, but > tldp.org seems to have some much nicer free texts now: > > http://www.tldp.org/guides.html > > BTW, Should WLUG have a reserve of Ubuntu CDs available? I can put in > an order for a large set if folks like the idea. > > - Adam > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu CD's

by Adam Keck

On Apr 11, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Mike Leo wrote: > I made the mistake of offering a linux basics class at work. > Since when is teaching a class on Linux a mistake! ;-) Actually, I have taught two such classes to the front-line admins at work. Of the two, the far more successful class used floater laptops booted with Knoppix. Knoppix much reduced the setup time and allowed me to keep the floater laptop guy happy by not blowing away the XP installs on the machines. I highly recommend it for teaching. I had various network services serving up a complete environment to the student machines; all the machines were on an isolated network in the conference room. I used a USB key to store the net service config files as well as the course material. I presented the class material in PDF to the student laptops with Apache. Everyone plugged in a floater, booted their Knoppix CD, and then browsed to the class material on my machine. I can't find the text I used anymore, but tldp.org seems to have some much nicer free texts now: http://www.tldp.org/guides.html BTW, Should WLUG have a reserve of Ubuntu CDs available? I can put in an order for a large set if folks like the idea. - Adam

April 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Recycling centers

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Sawyer wrote: > We can always use working monitors, a p1 or p2 may be too old to be of > any use though. > We can also give tax receipts for donations. Another thought: I've found that machines around 233 MHz can be used as Linux thin clients (LTSP). The issue with machines of this vintage is whether or not the video card can display a sufficient resolution to be useful with modern software. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEPB4YHl0iXDssISsRAjfRAJsEf1k7iqa7mWHIvyBbzZIMH2dLfQCcCro3 +t6pywb6IfBlAwpWITueISo= =26NN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 11, 2006

Meeting Wed Apr 12 7PM WPI

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Our WLUG meeting will be on Wednesday, April 12 at 7:00 PM in "the usual place" (Access Grid Room, WPI campus, Worcester, MA USA). I hope a few people will be there who attended Linux Expo in Boston - I'm curious to hear about it, and I hope others are as well. Bring your Linux questions - you can ask the group and I'm sure somebody will have an answer. All Linux related topics are fair game at this meeting! I'll bring a few items for raffle (and others might also...). We'll adjourn to the Tech Pizza restaurant after the meeting. See ya soon, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEPB2THl0iXDssISsRAsqBAJ4vvwT1eRhB7/f/SZiMqNENj+K42gCbBJyF sTKbC8tnSRJ6f7hGgsCz7ck= =982L -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu CD's

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eric Stein wrote: > I have 5 livecd/install sets that I got shipped from ubuntu awhile back. > I'd like to keep one, so you can have the other four. > Eric > > P.S. The meeting is at 7pm in the access grid room on Wednesday, right? Yes, the meeting is at 7PM in the Access GRid room on WEdnesday. Andy > > Mike Leo wrote: > > >>I made the mistake of offering a linux basics class at work. >> >>I was going to use the Ubuntu LiveCD to get the class some hands on. This way, they could take >>the CD and install it if they wanted too. >> >>I figured about 5-10 responders would say they wanted to go to the class. >> >>So far about 20 people are coming. >> >>Anyone have any extra 5.1 Ubuntu CD's they can part with? I need at least 10 more now and don't >>have time to wait for the mail. I know I could make copies, but talking about the free-ness of >>it, it would be better to hand them a nice legit copy. >> >>If so, please bring them to the LUG meeting tomorow if you can. >> >>Thanks... >> >>Mike >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEPBxzHl0iXDssISsRArZJAJ9VLWTubkFjncyCpIFucK4NhnMnPACfVB+/ Nl5QEHSk7J0tUuWhpvyhjZg= =tXYd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu CD's

by Eric Stein

I think he knows that copying it is okay. Packaged CDs are more professional AND more convincing. He's trying to get people to switch to linux :)( Eric Eric Martin wrote: > Copying an Ubuntu CD is totally legit...just doesn't look as nice as > the packaged one...

April 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu CD's

by Eric Martin

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Copying an Ubuntu CD is totally legit...just doesn't look as nice as the packaged one... Mike Leo wrote: > I made the mistake of offering a linux basics class at work. > > I was going to use the Ubuntu LiveCD to get the class some hands on. This way, they could take > the CD and install it if they wanted too. > > I figured about 5-10 responders would say they wanted to go to the class. > > So far about 20 people are coming. > > Anyone have any extra 5.1 Ubuntu CD's they can part with? I need at least 10 more now and don't > have time to wait for the mail. I know I could make copies, but talking about the free-ness of > it, it would be better to hand them a nice legit copy. > > If so, please bring them to the LUG meeting tomorow if you can. > > Thanks... > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEO9UQaI8VEtSi4H8RAoZWAKCVBE7t6/ob0A9JMU4+B8IkHaJfMwCgjsoY C8p0j5d0FKnDSeKOf7iMxJE= =RWmU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu CD's

by Eric Stein

I have 5 livecd/install sets that I got shipped from ubuntu awhile back. I'd like to keep one, so you can have the other four. Eric P.S. The meeting is at 7pm in the access grid room on Wednesday, right? Mike Leo wrote: >I made the mistake of offering a linux basics class at work. > >I was going to use the Ubuntu LiveCD to get the class some hands on. This way, they could take >the CD and install it if they wanted too. > >I figured about 5-10 responders would say they wanted to go to the class. > >So far about 20 people are coming. > >Anyone have any extra 5.1 Ubuntu CD's they can part with? I need at least 10 more now and don't >have time to wait for the mail. I know I could make copies, but talking about the free-ness of >it, it would be better to hand them a nice legit copy. > >If so, please bring them to the LUG meeting tomorow if you can. > >Thanks... > >Mike >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

April 11, 2006

Ubuntu CD's

by Mike Leo

I made the mistake of offering a linux basics class at work. I was going to use the Ubuntu LiveCD to get the class some hands on. This way, they could take the CD and install it if they wanted too. I figured about 5-10 responders would say they wanted to go to the class. So far about 20 people are coming. Anyone have any extra 5.1 Ubuntu CD's they can part with? I need at least 10 more now and don't have time to wait for the mail. I know I could make copies, but talking about the free-ness of it, it would be better to hand them a nice legit copy. If so, please bring them to the LUG meeting tomorow if you can. Thanks... Mike

April 11, 2006