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Re: [Wlug] Website down? Plus "who is Jamie?"

by Chuck Anderson

On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 01:55:36AM -0400, Jamie Guinan wrote: > I can't connect to wlug.org:80, has it been down long? Yeah, the webserver was just upgraded. It should be up now.

Aug. 9, 2006

Another system available...

by Stephen C. Daukas

Hi guys! I have another of Doug's systems available for anyone who would like it: Gateway 2000 P5-90 MHz Tower, 32 Meg Ram w/ *matching* Keyboard, Mouse, and Monitor (GW2K Vivitron) 2 HDDs: WD AC 31000H WD AC 36400L 2 Ethernet cards (was being used as a router for the home network) If interested, let me know and I'll bring it to the cookout tomorrow evening! Steve

Aug. 9, 2006

kickstart pxelinux foo needed

by John Stoffel

Guys, My google-foo is down today and I've got a quick question that maybe people can help me on. I've got some Rackable boxes I need to kickstart with RedHat 7.3, ideally via PXELINUX. All this actually works right now, but I need to force the system to load the e1000 module and bind it to eth0, instead of the eepro100 module which currently gets in there first. I guess I could just nuke the module from the initrd.img file, but I figured there's got to be a way I can specify this inside the pxelinux config file. I've got the following: default rh73 label rh73 kernel vmlinuz-7.3 append ks=nfs:10.10.1.1:/export/RH7.3/ks.cfg initrd=/RH7.3/initrd.img root=/dev/hda2 ro vga=ask I know I just need to put something into the 'append ...' line, but dammned if I can figure it out. Thanks, John

Aug. 9, 2006

Website down? Plus "who is Jamie?"

by Jamie Guinan

Hi all, I can't connect to wlug.org:80, has it been down long? Also, while I can remember lots of facts about people at the WLUG meetings, I still have trouble associating names. So in case anyone else has the same problem, and you're wondering who's hosting the BBQ, here's a pic of me (Jamie) sharing some side dishes with my daughter at Kaya resaturant in Boston, http://www.bluebutton.com/misc/jamie-japanese-food.jpg I'll have 1 or 2 cameras to take pictures at the BBQ. -Jamie

Aug. 9, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Free Items: Computers, Monitors, mice, keyboards, books and more !

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 gbonte(a)WPI.EDU wrote: >>Mac Powerbook (Laptop?) 1400Cs/133 > > > I am fairly interested in this. If nobody minds, I can swing by and pick > it up at the Barbecue. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > Sorry, somebody beat you to it. Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE2QIDHl0iXDssISsRApn4AJsGTBkFMpYZqwTkrzqQnO8MNYlqxQCdFZkC 1e3yX0Ig4+tEIfD1tFyZc74= =p1tY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 8, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Free Items: Computers, Monitors, mice, keyboards, books and more !

by gbonte＠WPI.EDU

> Mac Powerbook (Laptop?) 1400Cs/133 I am fairly interested in this. If nobody minds, I can swing by and pick it up at the Barbecue.

Aug. 8, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Free Items: Computers, Monitors, mice, keyboards, books and more !

by Stephen C. Daukas

Hi all! Andy Stewart wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi gang, > > I was helping Steve Daukas and Barb Waud clean out some of Doug's old [snip] > Mac Powerbook (Laptop?) 1400Cs/133 > Yes - this is a laptop. Also, I will continue to sort through more hardware, software, and books/texts/journals, and be able to add to Andy's list over the coming weeks. What I really wanted to say is "Thank You" to Andy for helping with this. This has been a "fits and starts" type of project where it can be very helpful to have a 3rd-party (Andy) involved. As Andy can attest, this isn't just one or two systems, its more like several rooms of stuff. (As an aside, Doug and I had ~15 systems networked at one time several years back with a bunch of those, and many others, having been donated to a refugee assistance program in Shrewsbury...) Andy, you were very nice to take the items you did. I can tell Barbara is feeling good about having made some progress and it will be that much easier to inventory and give away the remaining items. Thanks! Steve

Aug. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Free Items: Computers, Monitors, mice, keyboards, books and more !

by Bill Smith

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:37:43 -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > > >Hi gang, > >I was helping Steve Daukas and Barb Waud clean out some of Doug's old >computers today. You may recall that Doug was a WLUG member for many >years (sadly, he passed away in March 2006). I remember. That is unfortunate. :( > Barb has asked me to find >a home for these items. Everything works, but some of it is rather >"vintage" (sorry, preused, preowned!). I prefer "broken in". :) (Much of my own hardware is like Doug's.) > Don't worry - if you don't get >something now, there's more where this stuff came from(!). Doug was >very avid when it came to his computer hobby. This is an indication that he cared about his hobby. ;) >I will bring these items to the WLUG BBQ (coming up this Thursday) and >to the next regular WLUG meeting (Thurs Sept 7th). If you want >something, send me an email and I'll be happy to hold it for you. >Please pick it up at one of these two meetings, or make other >arrangements with me. First come, first served. > >Here is the email address in case you wish to send a thank-you note to >Barb Waud: barbara.waud(a)umassmed.edu I shall. >3 pairs of memory dimms (untested) >looks like 144 pin dimms >not sure of the sizes >2 pairs are HP 1818-6126 (looks like 16 MB ECC each) >1 pair has 9 chips (each) with > "SEC Korea KM44C16104AK-6" > >=== end === According to http://www.xs4all.nl/~ganswijk/chipdir/f/dram.htm , that last pair seems to be 16x4 EDO DRAM. >Printers >- -------- > >HP Deskjet 600C >HP Deskjet 697C >HP Deskjet 870Cse > I'm interested in the HP697C. If it's still available, I'd like to pick it up at the September 7th WLUG meeting. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... Humanity is cripple. * TAG! v3.2 *

Aug. 7, 2006

Free Items: Computers, Monitors, mice, keyboards, books and more !

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi gang, I was helping Steve Daukas and Barb Waud clean out some of Doug's old computers today. You may recall that Doug was a WLUG member for many years (sadly, he passed away in March 2006). Barb has asked me to find a home for these items. Everything works, but some of it is rather "vintage" (sorry, preused, preowned!). Don't worry - if you don't get something now, there's more where this stuff came from(!). Doug was very avid when it came to his computer hobby. I will bring these items to the WLUG BBQ (coming up this Thursday) and to the next regular WLUG meeting (Thurs Sept 7th). If you want something, send me an email and I'll be happy to hold it for you. Please pick it up at one of these two meetings, or make other arrangements with me. First come, first served. Here is the email address in case you wish to send a thank-you note to Barb Waud: barbara.waud(a)umassmed.edu OK, here is the (long!) list of items which are available. Ideally, someone will want a system box with a matching monitor, keyboard, and mouse combo. However, I'll breakup the set if it helps more items find homes. === start === Monitors - -------- Monitor #1 Manufactured 2/1994 TECO TE1450 (color) Super VGA COLOR monitor H: 30-50 kHZ V: 50-100 Hz 13" diagonal viewable (probably 14") Appears to work fine Monitor #2 Manufactured 12/1996 AcerView 54e (color) Model #7154e 14" diagonal viewable (probably 15") Works at 1024x768x60HZ Monitor #3 Manufactured 5/2000 Viewsonic E655 (color) Model #VCDTS21526-4M 14" diagonal viewable (probalby 15") Works at 1024x768@60Hz Monitor #4 Manufactured 2/1999 Dell Trinitron Model #D1025TM (color) H: 30-85 kHz V: 50-120 Hz 16" diagonal viewable (probably 17") Works at 1024x768@60Hz CPUs - ---- System #1 Dell XPS Pro200n Pentium Pro 200 MHz (says /proc/cpuinfo - 400 BogoMips) 64 MB memory PS2 KB and Mouse ATAPI 12X CDROM 3.5" Floppy Western Digital WDC WD400BB-00AUA1 (wiped clean but functional, 40 GB) 1 parallel, 2 serial ports 1 10/100 NIC 1 sound w/gameport Boots my ancient LNX-BBC business card CD (live Linux) Runs X w/blackbox 640x480x16 (maybe more??) System #2 AOpen Pentium 200 MHz Processor 32 MB memory HD ST32132A (wiped clean but functional, 2GB) ATAPI 8X CDROM (CDU511-F) NIC Phoenix S3 video TRIO64V 3/5" Floppy AT KB, serial mouse Boots my ancient LNX-BBC business card CD (live Linux) Runs X w/blackbox 640x480x16 System #3 No name system Pentium 200 MHz CPU 32 MB memory HD ST33210A (wiped clean but functional, 3GB) AT KB, serial mouse Phoenix S3 video TRIO64V NIC ATAPI 8X CDROM 3.5" floppy Runs X w/blackbox 640x480x16 System #4 Pot luck - probably similar to the above Case wires disconnected from MB It may work, it may not Knowing Doug, it works... I can investigate further if you are interested - please ask! Keyboards - --------- comes with the systems (I think 3 are PS/2 (with a couple of AT adapters), and one is strictly AT). Mice - ---- 3 out of 4 come with mice (2 serial mice, one PS/2) Books - ----- LaTeX User's Guide and Reference Manual Leslie Lamport ISBN 0-201-15790-X Addison-Wesley Publishing Company 4 copies are available The LaTeX Graphics Companion Michel Goossens, Sebastian Rahtz, Frank Mittelback ISBN 0-201-85469-4 Addison-Wesley Publishing Company The LaTeX Companion Goossens, Mittelback, and Samarin ISBN 0-201-54199-8 Addison Wesley Publishing Company LaTeX 2e Thomas Demmig ISBN 3-8272-6517-7 Damn, this book is in German, not English!! LaTeX User's Guide and Reference Manual updated for LaTex 2e Leslie Lamport (2nd edition) ISBN 0-201-52983-1 Guide to LaTex Helmut Kopka and Patrick W. Daly (4th edition) ISBN 0-321-17385-6 Addison Wesley Publishing Company The LaTeX Web Companion Michel Goossens and Sebastian Rahtz ISBN 0-201-43311-7 Addison Wesley Publishing Company Do you think Doug was into LaTeX much ?!? DNS and Bind Paul Albitz and Cricket Liu (3rd Edition) ISBN 1-56592-512-2 O'Reilly and Associates RedHat Fedora Linux 3 Bible Christopher Negus ISBN 0-7645-7872-3 Wiley Publishing Linux(1): Users Reference Manual (all the man pages in one book!) edited by John Purcell Just Computers! Publishing Printed in Canada - no ISBN number Running Linux Matt Welsh and Lar Kaufman (1st edition) O'Reilly and Associates ISBN 1-56592-100-3 Great for the Linux novice! Linux System Security Scott Mann and Ellen L. Mitchell Prentice Hall Publishing ISBN 0-13-015807-0 Magazines - --------- Linux Journal June 2006 August 2006 Sept 2006 Misc - ---- Belkin 802.11b wireless router Model #F5D6231-4 4 ports + WAN port plus wireless I tried it - it works fine as far as I can tell Includes AC/DC adapter and one network cable 3 pairs of memory dimms (untested) looks like 144 pin dimms not sure of the sizes 2 pairs are HP 1818-6126 (looks like 16 MB ECC each) 1 pair has 9 chips (each) with "SEC Korea KM44C16104AK-6" === end === The following items are not in my possession (they're at Barb's house) but also need to find new homes. Please let me know if you are interested, and I'll get these to you. All items are in "as-is" condition. Printers - -------- HP Deskjet 600C HP Deskjet 697C HP Deskjet 870Cse Apple Hardware - -------------- Printer: Color Style Writer 4100 Printer: System Writer II (2 available) CPU: Power Mac 5400 / 200 Mac Powerbook (Laptop?) 1400Cs/133 - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE1plnHl0iXDssISsRAtQoAJ0WNSIH4kOb2QS9CQUOJtKqvfTHjwCfd1wD bnKwxu4ANL4oBHE/Ty0iiD4= =Zne/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] update; thanks

by Bill Smith

On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:54:32 -0700 (PDT), Andrew Perry wrote: > Lo and behold, last night I hooked up a patch cable >to my wife's router, booted up Damn Small Linux on an >old PC, and it just plain worked ! Having tried off >and on for many years to make linux _useful_ to me >(not just a novelty), I was really excited. Awesome! :) > Unfortunately, a lot of work lies ahead of me >before I can really convert to linux: for example, I >tried to listen to my favorite radio station 2gb.com, >and successfully downloaded real player for linux, but >got stuck installing it... I'll try to figure it out >eventually, but didn't have time last night. You may need to have root privileges to install Real Player. If you have sudo configured, you can probably use a command like: chmod +x realplayer10.bin sudo ./realplayer10.bin If you do not have sudo configured, you will need the root password. If you installed this system, then you should know it. In this case, something like this should do the trick: su - cd /path/to/RealPlayer-file-you-downloaded chmod +x realplayer10.bin ./realplayer10.bin In both cases, you'll want to use the actual filename for the RealPlayer installation binary. The "chmod" command makes the file executable. Hope this helps. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com Microsoft Windows doesn't HAVE security holes... It IS a security hole. * TAG! v3.2 *

Aug. 4, 2006

update; thanks

by Andrew Perry

Hi everyone, About a year ago I asked for help from this group on getting linux to work with the internet, preferably though my home wi-fi network, which works OK with Windows. Until then, I had played with linux for a long time but had never been able to make it a part of my life due to the deal-breaker factor of no internet. Someone suggested using the latest distros, such as Fedora Core (3 at the time), which would be most likely to have the appropriate drivers. (Incidentally, frozentech.com sells linux cd's/dvd's at $1/$2 with max $0.49 shipping.) I tried many distros, and two or three different USB wirless adapters, but no luck. Another person suggested trying a wired network first, as wired networks were easier to make work. Until now, I haadn't tried that suggestion, since I thought that it would still involve a lot of time in configuration and trial and error. Lo and behold, last night I hooked up a patch cable to my wife's router, booted up Damn Small Linux on an old PC, and it just plain worked ! Having tried off and on for many years to make linux _useful_ to me (not just a novelty), I was really excited. Unfortunately, a lot of work lies ahead of me before I can really convert to linux: for example, I tried to listen to my favorite radio station 2gb.com, and successfully downloaded real player for linux, but got stuck installing it... I'll try to figure it out eventually, but didn't have time last night. Thanks, everyone. - Andrew -Dr. Andrew B. Perry Assistant Prof. of Mathematics, Springfield College 263 Alden St., Springfield MA 01109 Work Phone (413)748-3193

Aug. 3, 2006

REMINDER: WLUG BBQ Thurs Aug 10 6PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 What: WLUG Summer BBQ at Jamie's House in Shrewsbury When: Thursday August 10, 6pm-~9pm. Hot dogs, burgers, and maybe a few other items (chicken+veggie kebobs anyone?) will be on the grill, and various non-alcoholic beverages will be available. My grill is a bit old and battered, so if you're bothered by a little rust, feel free to BYO food. We're anticipating around 15 people based on past WLUG events, and I'll have chairs for about that many people. If the weather is horrible, I might bring things inside, and we can do some fun Linux demo things like install gentoo on a spare box, broadcast a movie on VLC, etc. WIFI will be available if you want to bring a laptop. Directions: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=21+Lexington+Road+01545 Text directions: http://bluebutton.com/misc/dirxns2.html I'll leave 2 open spots in the driveway, otherwise you can park along the curb. Walk around the right (north) side of the house to get to the back yard. See you there! - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE0STGHl0iXDssISsRApd4AJ0VPhBTBs5sP/3ue0pjFJ2yB5Gv/gCfbhtB zt3EYKFu6CWiEGdRj5UX3GE= =7Sci -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 2, 2006

[Fwd: Special Discount for SD Best Practices 2006 Conference & Expo]

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Special Discount for SD Best Practices 2006 Conference & Expo Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:49:05 -0700 From: BWong(a)cmp.com To: andystewart(a)comcast.net Hello Andy, I would like to invite all WLUG members to attend the Software Development Best Practices 2006 Conference & Expo coming to the Hynes Convention Center in Boston, MA, September 11 - 14. With more than 175 educational sessions, SD Best Practices offers a multitude of exciting learning and networking opportunities. This year’s conference features classes, tutorials, case studies, roundtables, panels and Birds-of-a-Feathers in the following tracks: - - Build & Deploy - - C++ - - Design & Architecture - - People, Projects & Teams - - Process & Methods - - Requirements & Analysis - - Testing & Quality We encourage your members to take advantage of our generous Early Bird conference discounts. Register by August 4th with the code 6EGRAS81 to qualify for Early Bird pricing. After August 4th, your members will still save $300 off of the VIP pass by using that discount code. WLUG members also receive free admission to the SD Best Practices Expo - a $50 value! Your FREE Expo Pass grants you access to: - - All technical training sessions from IBM, Progress Software, Electric Cloud and others - - Expo Floor featuring the latest tools, technologies and solutions - - Visionary Keynote presentations - - Expo Floor Opening Party with free food and drinks Registration is fast & easy! Sign up for a Conference Pass or your free Expo Pass on-line at http://www.sdexpo.com or by phone at (800) 441-8826 and be sure to use the your special discount code: 6EGRAS81. I'd greatly appreciate it if you would help us get the word out to all your members and colleagues. Let me know if you'd like me to send you copies of our conference catalog to distribute at your next meeting. Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards and thanks, Bella Wong Marketing Coordinator Dr. Dobb's SD Events CMP Technology tel: 415.947.6358 | fax: 415.947.6070 | bwong(a)cmp.com http://www.sdexpo.com | http://www.ddj.com - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFExWxEHl0iXDssISsRAtLEAJsHiUtC1BDjJ25UpmBCOj0tp1pD8ACfRW/x 538/JWMWu6hyLd0HipX6ovQ= =ytos -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

July 25, 2006

Test - please ignore

by David Glaser

Test - please ignore

July 22, 2006

Re: [Wlug] WLUG website on PDA web browser

by Frank Sweetser

On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 10:11:07PM -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: > > HI gang, > > I recently got a Palm T|X and was using the web browser. It works fine > for websites that are written in a certain way (mobile.palm.com, for > example). Our WLUG website comes up with the WLUG graphical header but > no useful text info. > > I'm wondering if it would be hard to format (at least the home page of) > the website to display cleanly on a PDA (320x480 or 320x320) as well as > a normal computer screen. Does anybody have the expertise and time to > give this a try? If its a huge effort, it is probably not worth it, but > I don't have the expertise to size up the effort. If it's like the one or two other phone based browsers I've played with, it probably doesn't handle frames in a useful way. The solution would be to re-implement the frames based layout using CSS instead. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

July 19, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Which C++ Development Environment to use

by Karl Hiramoto

David Glaser wrote: > I'm new to the Linux world and I'm looking for free C++ devleopment > environments that run on Windoze and Linux > > Right now I'm using Eclipse with the CDT toolset - what other IDEs > should I look at? > > Thanks, > > I use Source-Navigator http://sourcenav.sourceforge.net/ Kdeveop is nice on linux, but to use on windows i think you need cygwin. I have not tried it on windows tho. http://www.kdevelop.org/ -- --- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> http://karl.hiramoto.org/

July 17, 2006

Which C++ Development Environment to use

by David Glaser

I'm new to the Linux world and I'm looking for free C++ devleopment environments that run on Windoze and Linux Right now I'm using Eclipse with the CDT toolset - what other IDEs should I look at? Thanks, David Glaser

July 17, 2006

WLUG website on PDA web browser

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, I recently got a Palm T|X and was using the web browser. It works fine for websites that are written in a certain way (mobile.palm.com, for example). Our WLUG website comes up with the WLUG graphical header but no useful text info. I'm wondering if it would be hard to format (at least the home page of) the website to display cleanly on a PDA (320x480 or 320x320) as well as a normal computer screen. Does anybody have the expertise and time to give this a try? If its a huge effort, it is probably not worth it, but I don't have the expertise to size up the effort. Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEuaA7Hl0iXDssISsRAo76AJ9BFCwiwIzeWZVEcYkRrStmOdwvEgCdG1g9 XmQiiZX/updu9aJsR/Y+EGo= =Slhi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

July 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel driver vs module

by John Stoffel

Mike> well, now can someone explain why putting a bin file in Mike> /lib/firmware i now get the following after a insmod qla2xxx: Umm... because the card can now initialize itself with the firmware image and do the initial logins to the SAN? I dunno, I've never used them under Linux. Yet. :] Mike> QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Found an ISP2312, irq 9, iobase 0xf8aa6000 Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configuring PCI space... Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configure NVRAM parameters... Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Verifying loaded RISC code... Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Waiting for LIP to complete... Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: LOOP UP detected (2 Gbps). Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Topology - (F_Port), Host Loop address 0xffff Mike> scsi6 : qla2xxx Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Mike> QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver: 8.01.04-k Mike> QLogic QLA2340 - 133MHz PCI-X to 2Gb FC, Single Channel Mike> ISP2312: PCI (33 MHz) @ 0000:00:01.0 hdma-, host#=6, fw=3.03.20 IPX So that's good. Mike> My redhat servers don't even have a /lib/firmware directory...is Mike> this a debian thing? It's a Linux 2.6 thing Mike> Seems by simply putting a qla2300_fw.bin file in /lib/firmware Mike> fixed my problem. Good. Mike> I have yet to get actual SAN disks, but at least the card came Mike> up this time. Yeah! I assume that there are some tools under Linux to actually probe the fabric and see what's out there. It sounds like you're most of the way there now, unless of course you run into SAN zoning issues. Mike> Also, what is a KCONFIG entry? It's part of the Linux kernel source code tree. When you extract the kernel source and do: make xconfig it prompts you with entries from the KCONFIG files for each driver/kernel feature that you need to configure. I just cut'n'pasted the info from my local copy of the kernel source before. Good luck, John

July 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel driver vs module

by Lee Keyser-Allen

The card that you are using requires that the firmware be loaded every time. Firmware, as you may know, is distinct from the driver that Linux uses to talk to the card ... it is the code that the card runs natively to control its operations and allow the card to communicate properly with (and pass data to) the PC. There are a number of reasons why they would load the firmware each time. I don't know this card or driver at all, so I won't bore you with conjecture, but the end result is that the driver needs to know where to find the firmware so that it can load it in, and get the card up and running. My guess, as to your question about redhat, is that the firmware is simply stored in a different location, or is linked into the driver directly. Again, having no intimate knowledge, I can only suppose. So, as you've properly ascertained, the driver can now get the card up and talking, and all you need now are some drives to have some real fun :). Hope that this helps, and good luck. Lee On 7/11/06, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > well, now can someone explain why putting a bin file in /lib/firmware i now get the following > after a insmod qla2xxx: > > QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Found an ISP2312, irq 9, iobase 0xf8aa6000 > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configuring PCI space... > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configure NVRAM parameters... > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Verifying loaded RISC code... > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Waiting for LIP to complete... > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: LOOP UP detected (2 Gbps). > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Topology - (F_Port), Host Loop address 0xffff > scsi6 : qla2xxx > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: > QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver: 8.01.04-k > QLogic QLA2340 - 133MHz PCI-X to 2Gb FC, Single Channel > ISP2312: PCI (33 MHz) @ 0000:00:01.0 hdma-, host#=6, fw=3.03.20 IPX > > > > My redhat servers don't even have a /lib/firmware directory...is this a debian thing? > > Seems by simply putting a qla2300_fw.bin file in /lib/firmware fixed my problem. > > I have yet to get actual SAN disks, but at least the card came up this time. > > Also, what is a KCONFIG entry? > > --- John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > > > > Mike> good feedback...thanks > > Mike> the entries in dmesg show > > > > Mike> QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver > > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Found an ISP2312, irq 9, iobase 0xf8aa6000 > > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configuring PCI space... > > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configure NVRAM parameters... > > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Verifying loaded RISC code... > > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Firmware image unavailable. > > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Failed to initialize adapter > > > > This is good, but what it's really telling me is that you don't have > > the driver properly installed, with the firmware that needs to be > > downloaded to the card setup properly. > > > > Do you have any docs on the card driver install? Check that > > /lib/firmware/.. has the right stuff in there. Here's some docs from > > the KCONFIG entry, since the qla2xxx driver is part of the core linux > > kernel now (2.6.18-rc1-mm1): > > > > By default, firmware for the ISP parts will be loaded > > via the Firmware Loader interface. > > > > ISP Firmware Filename > > ---------- ----------------- > > 21xx ql2100_fw.bin > > 22xx ql2200_fw.bin > > 2300, 2312, 6312 ql2300_fw.bin > > 2322, 6322 ql2322_fw.bin > > 24xx ql2400_fw.bin > > > > Upon request, the driver caches the firmware image until > > the driver is unloaded. > > > > Firmware images can be retrieved from: > > > > ftp://ftp.qlogic.com/outgoing/linux/firmware/ > > > > > > Mike> This is a brand new, out of the box HBA and we have had zero > > Mike> failure rates to date on these (via Redhat). > > > > Mike> The only "drivers" i can find via QLogic are rpm's...that makes > > Mike> them binary drivers (?) since I cannot compile them myself, > > Mike> right? > > > > Whether they're RPMs or not doesn't mean much, it's whether or not you > > can get source code without any binary blobs. In this case, since the > > firmware is binary only, it's not a completely open adapter, but at > > least you can grab what you need easily enough. > > > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Lee Keyser-Allen (lkeyser(a)alum.wpi.edu)

July 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel driver vs module

by Mike Leo

well, now can someone explain why putting a bin file in /lib/firmware i now get the following after a insmod qla2xxx: QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Found an ISP2312, irq 9, iobase 0xf8aa6000 qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configuring PCI space... qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configure NVRAM parameters... qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Verifying loaded RISC code... qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Waiting for LIP to complete... qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: LOOP UP detected (2 Gbps). qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Topology - (F_Port), Host Loop address 0xffff scsi6 : qla2xxx qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver: 8.01.04-k QLogic QLA2340 - 133MHz PCI-X to 2Gb FC, Single Channel ISP2312: PCI (33 MHz) @ 0000:00:01.0 hdma-, host#=6, fw=3.03.20 IPX My redhat servers don't even have a /lib/firmware directory...is this a debian thing? Seems by simply putting a qla2300_fw.bin file in /lib/firmware fixed my problem. I have yet to get actual SAN disks, but at least the card came up this time. Also, what is a KCONFIG entry? --- John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Mike> good feedback...thanks > Mike> the entries in dmesg show > > Mike> QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Found an ISP2312, irq 9, iobase 0xf8aa6000 > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configuring PCI space... > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configure NVRAM parameters... > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Verifying loaded RISC code... > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Firmware image unavailable. > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Failed to initialize adapter > > This is good, but what it's really telling me is that you don't have > the driver properly installed, with the firmware that needs to be > downloaded to the card setup properly. > > Do you have any docs on the card driver install? Check that > /lib/firmware/.. has the right stuff in there. Here's some docs from > the KCONFIG entry, since the qla2xxx driver is part of the core linux > kernel now (2.6.18-rc1-mm1): > > By default, firmware for the ISP parts will be loaded > via the Firmware Loader interface. > > ISP Firmware Filename > ---------- ----------------- > 21xx ql2100_fw.bin > 22xx ql2200_fw.bin > 2300, 2312, 6312 ql2300_fw.bin > 2322, 6322 ql2322_fw.bin > 24xx ql2400_fw.bin > > Upon request, the driver caches the firmware image until > the driver is unloaded. > > Firmware images can be retrieved from: > > ftp://ftp.qlogic.com/outgoing/linux/firmware/ > > > Mike> This is a brand new, out of the box HBA and we have had zero > Mike> failure rates to date on these (via Redhat). > > Mike> The only "drivers" i can find via QLogic are rpm's...that makes > Mike> them binary drivers (?) since I cannot compile them myself, > Mike> right? > > Whether they're RPMs or not doesn't mean much, it's whether or not you > can get source code without any binary blobs. In this case, since the > firmware is binary only, it's not a completely open adapter, but at > least you can grab what you need easily enough. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] CD drawer remains open

by Richard Klein

<quote who="mlong(a)datalong.com"> >> Try booting from a live cd (knoppix, gentoo, ubuntu) and see if it >> behaves the same way. If it does, it's hardware (which is my guess). >> If not, it's software. > > Thanks for the hint. This is a production server so I will try this the > next time it is taken offline for service. Oh! Well, it's probably running hot, then, and sticking out it's tongue to pant and cool off. HTH! NC, -- Rich

July 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel driver vs module

by John Stoffel

Mike> good feedback...thanks Mike> the entries in dmesg show Mike> QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Found an ISP2312, irq 9, iobase 0xf8aa6000 Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configuring PCI space... Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configure NVRAM parameters... Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Verifying loaded RISC code... Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Firmware image unavailable. Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Failed to initialize adapter This is good, but what it's really telling me is that you don't have the driver properly installed, with the firmware that needs to be downloaded to the card setup properly. Do you have any docs on the card driver install? Check that /lib/firmware/.. has the right stuff in there. Here's some docs from the KCONFIG entry, since the qla2xxx driver is part of the core linux kernel now (2.6.18-rc1-mm1): By default, firmware for the ISP parts will be loaded via the Firmware Loader interface. ISP Firmware Filename ---------- ----------------- 21xx ql2100_fw.bin 22xx ql2200_fw.bin 2300, 2312, 6312 ql2300_fw.bin 2322, 6322 ql2322_fw.bin 24xx ql2400_fw.bin Upon request, the driver caches the firmware image until the driver is unloaded. Firmware images can be retrieved from: ftp://ftp.qlogic.com/outgoing/linux/firmware/ Mike> This is a brand new, out of the box HBA and we have had zero Mike> failure rates to date on these (via Redhat). Mike> The only "drivers" i can find via QLogic are rpm's...that makes Mike> them binary drivers (?) since I cannot compile them myself, Mike> right? Whether they're RPMs or not doesn't mean much, it's whether or not you can get source code without any binary blobs. In this case, since the firmware is binary only, it's not a completely open adapter, but at least you can grab what you need easily enough. John

July 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] CD drawer remains open

by Marc Hughes

While I'm sure it's not the cause... I used to SSH into my wife's machine when she was living in a dorm and eject her cd. Scared the bejeezus out of her. She started to suspect me, so I used the at command to make it eject while I was there one day. -Marc On 7/10/06, mlong(a)datalong.com <mlong(a)datalong.com> wrote: > > Try booting from a live cd (knoppix, gentoo, ubuntu) and see if it > > behaves the same way. If it does, it's hardware (which is my guess). > > If not, it's software. > > Thanks for the hint. This is a production server so I will try this the > next time it is taken offline for service. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel driver vs module

by Mike Leo

good feedback...thanks the entries in dmesg show QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Found an ISP2312, irq 9, iobase 0xf8aa6000 qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configuring PCI space... qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configure NVRAM parameters... qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Verifying loaded RISC code... qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Firmware image unavailable. qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Failed to initialize adapter This is a brand new, out of the box HBA and we have had zero failure rates to date on these (via Redhat). The only "drivers" i can find via QLogic are rpm's...that makes them binary drivers (?) since I cannot compile them myself, right? --- Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> wrote: > ==> Regarding [Wlug] kernel driver vs module; Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> adds: > > mleo963> I am still having a hard time understanding kernel drivers vs > mleo963> module's in practical use: I understand a kernel driver, is a > mleo963> driver that Linus, et al, have coded into the kernel, so if i have > mleo963> a peice of hardware, and I compile a kernel with that device's > mleo963> driver turned on, then my device will work. > > mleo963> If i build that kernel driver as a module, the driver remains > mleo963> outside the kernel, but still availible for use. As a module I > mleo963> can rmmod or insmod when i need to use the device. > > mleo963> My foggy'ness comes from a few things. > > mleo963> 1. if the driver is built into the kernel, will it show up in lsmod? > > No. > > mleo963> 2. if the driver does not show up in lsmod, how do i know if its > mleo963> loaded? > > dmesg > > mleo963> 3. weather it's a built in driver or a module, how do i associate > mleo963> the driver (or module) with a particular device? > > It's done for you, via built-in PCI id mappings. > > mleo963> 4. if the device does not have a driver in the kernel, I cannot > mleo963> build a custom kernel to include it, nor can I build it as a > mleo963> module from the kernel source. So: > > This isn't a question... ;) > > mleo963> 5. if I get the driver from the vendor, it will build a module > mleo963> for me, based on my kernel-source or kernel-headers??? Then what? > mleo963> again, see #3: how do i associate the module with my device? > > Vendor modules come in 2 flavors: binary only, and not binary only. ;) In > the former case, you'll likely have to run the kernel version against which > they built the module. In the latter case, yes, you can build the module > out of tree, and then insmod it. Again, PCI id's on the card are matched > to those supported by the driver. > > mleo963> This is a general linux quandry, but this time i have a debian > mleo963> stable install and have inserted a QLogic HBA. lsmod does show > mleo963> qla2xxx, but it doesn't seem to be functioning as it isn't logging > mleo963> into the fiber switch. > > What does the dmesg output show? > > -Jeff > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 10, 2006