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Software to use with APC UPS?

by Richard Klein

I've acquired an APC SmartUPS and plugged it into my server that runs Debian 3.1 (sarge). The Powerchute disc that came with it says it has versions for Red Hat, SuSE, TurboLinux, and a couple other distros, but they don't mention Debian. I haven't looked at the contents of the CD yet, but I bet there are some interesting alternatives from other sources than APC. What software would you guys suggest I try with the UPS? I don't have X installed on the server, so command-line is the way to go, but a web interface would be neat! -- Rich

Sept. 17, 2006

Smart package manager

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Those of you who attended the most recent WLUG meeting might remember me complaining that the version of YaST on OpenSuSE 10.1 has a pathetically slow program for handling software installation. Greg Avedissian mentioned the Smart package manager (http://labix.org/smart) as an alternative, so I gave it a try. The Smart package manager appears to be Linux distribution agnostic. It works on systems whose package management is based on RPM, APT, APT-RPM, YUM, etc. I tried it on my laptop, where I was having the most performance issues with YaST's software handling program. I am quite pleased with the Smart package manager! Thanks, Greg, for the recommendation! I haven't yet installed the Smart package manager on my "good" system, but I probably will if Novell doesn't fix YaST in OpenSuSE 10.2. The Smart package manager has found a permanent home on my laptop. Funding for the development of the Smart package manager is being supplied by Canonical Ltd., the same folks who are funding Ubuntu Linux. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFDIg+Hl0iXDssISsRApTfAJ9MYONVIomUGBZgSrJlZv1TFgZ1WwCfaCLM J2A2Ch5Jk0yLtWsYsTsarZM= =CTb9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] WPI wireless setup on ubuntu linux

by Chuck Anderson

On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 02:56:05AM -0400, sknaqvi(a)WPI.EDU wrote: > 1. installed ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant > 2. setup the driver using ndiswrapper and intel 3945 driver's inf file I would avoic ndiswrapper if your wireless card is supported by a native Linux driver. It is an ugly hack that has unfixable design obstacles due to the way Windows allocates a larger stack size. This can contribute to random system crashes. > 3. Configured ifconfig and iwconfig for wlan0 > 4. Ran the following command: > wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -D ndiswrapper > It's here I run into problems-I get the following output: Did you download the certificate files and specify them in the wpa_supplicant.conf?

Sept. 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] WPI wireless setup on ubuntu linux

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 sknaqvi(a)WPI.EDU wrote: > Hi every1, > I am glad to know there is a local linux community alive. I was really > looking forward to joining the WPI linux association but couldn't find > anything related at the activities fair at WPI. Could anyone tell me > their website, when their meetings are, or perhaps can I meet a member > from the association? I could be wrong, but I believe that the WPI Linux Association is defunct, and has been for a few years. A couple of people in WLUG used to be in WPILA in their undergrad days, and perhaps they know more about this. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFC/EmHl0iXDssISsRAv0sAKCJglczLM+6EblrdH5wMEj/3Dp6pACdH2wI 6P4U+04fEmS1v/b5HIzZ3pM= =mqW5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 16, 2006

WPI wireless setup on ubuntu linux

by sknaqvi＠WPI.EDU

Hi every1, I am glad to know there is a local linux community alive. I was really looking forward to joining the WPI linux association but couldn't find anything related at the activities fair at WPI. Could anyone tell me their website, when their meetings are, or perhaps can I meet a member from the association? Secondly, to setup wireless connection with WPI on-campus, I followed the instructions on a WPI webpage (a private one-i googled my problem and came up with this but sadly it isn't appearing now) and the CCC webpage but to no avail. Could anyone help me out with this-please? Anyways I would really like to meet any linux dudes like me so just drop by anytime you like-I am at Institute Hall 105. I don't know whether this would help, but here's what I did to setup the wireless: 1. installed ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant 2. setup the driver using ndiswrapper and intel 3945 driver's inf file 3. Configured ifconfig and iwconfig for wlan0 4. Ran the following command: wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -D ndiswrapper It's here I run into problems-I get the following output: ioctl[SIOCSIWSCAN]: Resource temporarily unavailable Failed to initiate AP scan. Trying to associate with 00:15:e8:df:ad:40 (SSID='WPI-Wireless' freq=0 MHz) Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out. CTRL-EVENT-TERMINATING - signal 2 received Failed to disable WPA in the driver. ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: Resource temporarily unavailable Am I doing something wrong? Do you have any suggestions. Please help because this is the only thing which would allow me to quit Windows for daily life! Thank you in advance Yours sincerely, S. Kazim Naqvi

Sept. 16, 2006

Fw: Missing Inkscape from Suse Linux 9.2: Never mind

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Never mind. Got my answer from Novell's website. My "other thought" was indeed correct. There's tons more software on the 2 DVD's than on the 5 CD's. The Novell web page even lists *exactly* which packages the CD's don't contain. I don't have a DVD drive on the Suse Linux 9.2 laptop, but I was able to read the Inkscape .rpm file on my Windows laptop which *does* have a DVD drive. Then I ftp'd the file to my Linux laptop and did an install from a local directory. Doug ----- Forwarded by Doug Aker/EMPL/MA/Verizon on 09/14/2006 03:54 PM ----- Doug Aker/EMPL/MA/Verizon 09/14/2006 01:40 PM To "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> cc Subject Missing Inkscape from Suse Linux 9.2 Hi All: Recently, I installed Suse Linux Pro 9.2 on an HP laptop. The box the software came in prominently lists, as an included program, Inkscape, the open-source vector graphics editor. The mystery is that I can find no reference to Inkscape anywhere in the system, not even in Yast when searching in the "Install and Remove Software" dialog. Now perhaps I messed up and didn't choose Inkscape during the initial install, but shouldn't Yast still list Inkscape as a "Not Installed" package? My other thought is that perhaps Inkscape is included when you install from the 2 DVD's, but somehow Novell messed up and didn't include it on the 5 CD's. Thanks, Doug

Sept. 14, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Missing Inkscape from Suse Linux 9.2

by howard＠howardwhite.net

I have SUSE 10 installed, and I'm sure it's on the DVD (though I already had Inkscape installed under 9.2.) If it's not there, it's easily available at Inkscape. In fact, it might be better to download it because the version on the 9.n distribution set would not be the latest and greatest. HW

Sept. 14, 2006

Missing Inkscape from Suse Linux 9.2

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Hi All: Recently, I installed Suse Linux Pro 9.2 on an HP laptop. The box the software came in prominently lists, as an included program, Inkscape, the open-source vector graphics editor. The mystery is that I can find no reference to Inkscape anywhere in the system, not even in Yast when searching in the "Install and Remove Software" dialog. Now perhaps I messed up and didn't choose Inkscape during the initial install, but shouldn't Yast still list Inkscape as a "Not Installed" package? My other thought is that perhaps Inkscape is included when you install from the 2 DVD's, but somehow Novell messed up and didn't include it on the 5 CD's. Thanks, Doug

Sept. 14, 2006

Re: [Wlug] What USB flash drive device to choose for Suse Linux 9.3?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com wrote: > > Hi All, > > Quick question: Is buying a USB flash drive device for Linux something > that needs a bit of research? Or, by and large, will any old device > work? I've got Suse Linux 9.3 installed on an HP Omnibook 6100. > > Thanks, > Doug I always check here for starters: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ I had a USB flash device that didn't work, but that was a while ago. I returned it and got one that was mentioned on the website (above) and have had no problems since. I'd recommend some care with cameras. My Logitech camera uses the pwc driver which has minor issues with Linux. Maybe the USB 2.0 devices fare better. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFBzEYHl0iXDssISsRAskPAJsFxKzD1pSgQdiY/0QyXTivzyJjdwCfSN1g gATLrpcTw1/2vUlo6jauLwY= =+796 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] What USB flash drive device to choose for Suse Linux 9.3?

by Karl Hiramoto

almost any of them should work.. usbstorage module douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com wrote: > > Hi All, > > Quick question: Is buying a USB flash drive device for Linux something > that needs a bit of research? Or, by and large, will any old device > work? I've got Suse Linux 9.3 installed on an HP Omnibook 6100. > > Thanks, > Doug > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/ -- Last night I dreamed I ate a ten-pound marshmallow, and when I woke up the pillow was gone. -- Tommy Cooper

Sept. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] What USB flash drive device to choose for Suse Linux 9.3?

by Brian J. Conway

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com wrote: > Hi All, > > Quick question: Is buying a USB flash drive device for Linux something > that needs a bit of research? Or, by and large, will any old device work? > I've got Suse Linux 9.3 installed on an HP Omnibook 6100. Just about any off-the-shelf "flash stick" or USB-connected hard drive enclosure will all use the kernel's usb-storage and SD drivers. Lots of cameras, too. Brian J. Conway bconway(at)alum.wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992

Sept. 12, 2006

What USB flash drive device to choose for Suse Linux 9.3?

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Hi All, Quick question: Is buying a USB flash drive device for Linux something that needs a bit of research? Or, by and large, will any old device work? I've got Suse Linux 9.3 installed on an HP Omnibook 6100. Thanks, Doug

Sept. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] RAZR w/ Linux, Ruby tutorial

by Bill Smith

On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:35:24 -0400, John Stoffel wrote: >Bill> First, I was talking to someone about accessing the RAZR from >Bill> Linux via USB. (Sorry-- I'm terrible with names.) The program >Bill> that I use is moto4lin, and is available for free from >Bill> SourceForge at: http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page . > >I think I remember using this tool to access my V551 via BlueTooth on >my linux box, but it was a pain. I may have ended up going into KDE >instead of gnome and browsing to bluetooth:// instead. My PC doesn't have BlueTooth. I'm using a USB cable to do the connection. >In any case, it's a pain. If you want to sync your phone so you don't >lose your contacts and such, try the service on yahoo. >http://mobile.yahoo.com where I was able to upload my phone book quite >easily over a web connection. It's a work phone, so I don't worry >about the costs. *grin* This is a personal phone, so the costs actually matter to me. :) >Bill> One may (or may not) need p2kmoto, which is available from: >Bill> http://sourceforge.net/projects/moto4lin (the information is >Bill> available from the main page). > >Has anyone else gotten it to work reliably with BlueTooth? I'll be interested in this, too. >Bill> All-told, the installation of both parts are covered in the >Bill> documentation, and it's pretty straight-forward. > >But the moto4lin website sucks rocks. Who is crazy enough to think a >wiki is a web site? <shrug> >Bill> Second, I had asked several about Ruby tutorials, and mentioned >Bill> that I found one source that was a bit... ...odd, though I >Bill> couldn't remember the name of it. It is "Why's (Poignant) Guide >Bill> to Ruby, which is found at http://poignantguide.net/ruby/ . > > >Bill> Third, as for a list of what my employer has for what we are >Bill> getting rid of, we're in the process of building a list... When >Bill> something is available, I'll let you know. :) > >Oh! Post to the list so we vultures can gather around. Whee! Absolutely. Oh-- Andy- My AP is a LinkSys/Cisco WAP54G. It's got this via SNMP: # snmpget -v 2c -c snmp_password_here 10.80.50.4 sysDescr.0 SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr.0 = STRING: Linux (none) 2.4.20 mips -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com I never imagined there might be a time that I would die defending the Constitution from those sworn to uphold it. * TAG! v3.2 *

Sept. 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] e-Commerce Software

by Karl Hiramoto

Matt Higgins wrote: > Looking for some insight from you folks. Does anyone have experience > with this? Here are some params: > > Runs on linux > Does not need to be open source but that's a bonus > Standard software platform i.e. Java / PHP / Perl based > SOE friendly (nice urls, shallow link depth , crawlable catalog) > Ability to manage inventory and fulfillment. (this is more of a bonus) > > > Any thoughts ? > Check out: http://www.zen-cart.com/ -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/ -- Now is the time for all good men to come to. -- Walt Kelly

Sept. 9, 2006

Re: [Wlug] RAZR w/ Linux, Ruby tutorial

by John Stoffel

Bill> First, I was talking to someone about accessing the RAZR from Bill> Linux via USB. (Sorry-- I'm terrible with names.) The program Bill> that I use is moto4lin, and is available for free from Bill> SourceForge at: http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page . I think I remember using this tool to access my V551 via BlueTooth on my linux box, but it was a pain. I may have ended up going into KDE instead of gnome and browsing to bluetooth:// instead. In any case, it's a pain. If you want to sync your phone so you don't lose your contacts and such, try the service on yahoo. http://mobile.yahoo.com where I was able to upload my phone book quite easily over a web connection. It's a work phone, so I don't worry about the costs. *grin* Bill> One may (or may not) need p2kmoto, which is available from: Bill> http://sourceforge.net/projects/moto4lin (the information is Bill> available from the main page). Has anyone else gotten it to work reliably with BlueTooth? Bill> All-told, the installation of both parts are covered in the Bill> documentation, and it's pretty straight-forward. But the moto4lin website sucks rocks. Who is crazy enough to think a wiki is a web site? Bill> Second, I had asked several about Ruby tutorials, and mentioned Bill> that I found one source that was a bit... ...odd, though I Bill> couldn't remember the name of it. It is "Why's (Poignant) Guide Bill> to Ruby, which is found at http://poignantguide.net/ruby/ . Bill> Third, as for a list of what my employer has for what we are Bill> getting rid of, we're in the process of building a list... When Bill> something is available, I'll let you know. :) Oh! Post to the list so we vultures can gather around. Whee! John

Sept. 9, 2006

e-Commerce Software

by Matt Higgins

Looking for some insight from you folks. Does anyone have experience with this? Here are some params: Runs on linux Does not need to be open source but that's a bonus Standard software platform i.e. Java / PHP / Perl based SOE friendly (nice urls, shallow link depth , crawlable catalog) Ability to manage inventory and fulfillment. (this is more of a bonus) Any thoughts ?

Sept. 8, 2006

RAZR w/ Linux, Ruby tutorial

by Bill Smith

There are several things I want to mention... First, I was talking to someone about accessing the RAZR from Linux via USB. (Sorry-- I'm terrible with names.) The program that I use is moto4lin, and is available for free from SourceForge at: http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page . One may (or may not) need p2kmoto, which is available from: http://sourceforge.net/projects/moto4lin (the information is available from the main page). All-told, the installation of both parts are covered in the documentation, and it's pretty straight-forward. Second, I had asked several about Ruby tutorials, and mentioned that I found one source that was a bit... ...odd, though I couldn't remember the name of it. It is "Why's (Poignant) Guide to Ruby, which is found at http://poignantguide.net/ruby/ . Third, as for a list of what my employer has for what we are getting rid of, we're in the process of building a list... When something is available, I'll let you know. :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. For years I was smart. I recommend pleasant." -- Elwood P. Dowd * TAG! v3.2 *

Sept. 8, 2006

Re: [Wlug] MEETING: Thurs, Sept 7th, 7:00 PM

by Jamie Guinan

Unfortunately I can't make tonight's meeting. But I did up a few pictures from the BBQ, http://www.bluebutton.com/wlug/ See you in October! -Jamie

Sept. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] MEETING: Thurs, Sept 7th, 7:00 PM

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Andy, If you're still interested, I can briefly discuss my offer to give a preso (for the Oct meeting) on the SVG application I've developed. If there's interest, great. If not, no hard feelings. I've not had time to port the browser part of the application to SUSE Linux. The XML transformations though, *do* run on Linux (zLinux: IBM's Linux that runs under VM on mainframes). Doug "Andy Stewart" <andystewart(a)comcast.net> Sent by: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org 09/06/2006 08:12 PM Please respond to "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> To "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> cc Subject Re: [Wlug] MEETING: Thurs, Sept 7th, 7:00 PM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Everybody, Unfortunately, the Sybase representative who was supposed to visit us was called away on business out of the country, thus we won't be having our scheduled talk about Sybase at our next WLUG meeting. I apologize for the short notice - I just found out myself. We will still have the meeting, but it will be up to us to be creative with our time. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE/2PjHl0iXDssISsRAjhoAKCFyndvdNByHh2ZUJIlbRJeABlsBQCeKh8z H7SEBLKQgIk0e9gCmW1KwJo= =7fnA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] MEETING: Thurs, Sept 7th, 7:00 PM

by Eric Stein

Wow. I completely forgot about the meeting that was supposed to be today. I'm sort of glad this happened, now I have another chance :) Eric Andy Stewart wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > > Unfortunately, the Sybase representative who was supposed to visit us > was called away on business out of the country, thus we won't be having > our scheduled talk about Sybase at our next WLUG meeting. > > I apologize for the short notice - I just found out myself. > > We will still have the meeting, but it will be up to us to be creative > with our time. > > Later, > > Andy

Sept. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Distributions with Syslinux?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Richard Klein wrote: > I'm trying to install *nix on an old Gateway2000 120MHz Pentium. Most of > the discs (debian 3.1, ubuntu 5.10, phlak, solaris 10, freebsd 5.1, suse > 9.0, openbsd, netbsd 1.6.2) I have won't boot on it, giving an Isolinux > error (I forget exactly what the error was - it's at home and I'm at > work). PHLAK (I forget the version) boots, but locks up with a black > screen after it starts X. I'm guessing it boots because it uses Syslinux > instead of Isolinux, but I don't know if that's true. netbsd 1.6.2 also > boots, and I installed that last night, but I hate the default twm window > manager, I don't know how netbsd handles packages (I'm thinking of things > like deb or rpm packages), I don't know my way around netbsd, this is an > old version of netbsd, and netbsd is probably the wrong choice for what I > want to do, anyway. I want to see if I can turn this heap into a useful > web browser and email reader (well, web-mail could take care of email > chores). Some basic office apps would be nice, too. > > So, if I'm right that this old hardware is incompatible with Isolinux, > what are my options? > > Thanks! HI Rich, Here's a thought. Try downloading a copy of Damn Small Linux (DSL): http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/download.html Note that they have two versions, one with Syslinux and another with Isolinux. If one works and another doesn't, and it is consistent with what you've reported (above), then you have one problem solved (in a sense). DSL has low memory requirements and you can run it off of the CD to see if you like it (and if it is compatible with your hardware). I'm not certain but I think DSL is Debian based. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE/2VoHl0iXDssISsRApcHAJsGoBgEZ2HXHacLn8wfhb+qFT1glwCePy7I reZfEWmWPddiYLLX8CLeSQM= =k74N -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] MEETING: Thurs, Sept 7th, 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Everybody, Unfortunately, the Sybase representative who was supposed to visit us was called away on business out of the country, thus we won't be having our scheduled talk about Sybase at our next WLUG meeting. I apologize for the short notice - I just found out myself. We will still have the meeting, but it will be up to us to be creative with our time. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE/2PjHl0iXDssISsRAjhoAKCFyndvdNByHh2ZUJIlbRJeABlsBQCeKh8z H7SEBLKQgIk0e9gCmW1KwJo= =7fnA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Distributions with Syslinux?

by Adam Keck

Have you tried to installing from floppy? <http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/Debian3.1r3/main/installer-i386/curr…> or <http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/Debian3.0r6/main/disks-i386/current/…> -Adam On 9/6/06, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > I'm trying to install *nix on an old Gateway2000 120MHz Pentium. Most of > the discs (debian 3.1, ubuntu 5.10, phlak, solaris 10, freebsd 5.1, suse > 9.0, openbsd, netbsd 1.6.2) I have won't boot on it, giving an Isolinux > error (I forget exactly what the error was - it's at home and I'm at > work). PHLAK (I forget the version) boots, but locks up with a black > screen after it starts X. I'm guessing it boots because it uses Syslinux > instead of Isolinux, but I don't know if that's true. netbsd 1.6.2 also > boots, and I installed that last night, but I hate the default twm window > manager, I don't know how netbsd handles packages (I'm thinking of things > like deb or rpm packages), I don't know my way around netbsd, this is an > old version of netbsd, and netbsd is probably the wrong choice for what I > want to do, anyway. I want to see if I can turn this heap into a useful > web browser and email reader (well, web-mail could take care of email > chores). Some basic office apps would be nice, too. > > So, if I'm right that this old hardware is incompatible with Isolinux, > what are my options? > > Thanks! > -- > Rich > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- -Adam

Sept. 6, 2006

Re: [Wlug] CentOS?

by Andrew Robert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It is definitely more pain than it is worth to upgrade. I recommend you back up everything and do a clean build. John Stoffel wrote: > Pete> Anyone working with CentOS? I have a RH8 server that needs to > Pete> join the party. Any remote possibility that CentOS can upgrade > Pete> RH8, or do I need to backup everything and start from scratch? > > I think you'd need to upgrade to RH9, then the next RH/CentOS version > as you move up. Personally, I'd save off my data and just do an > upgrade if possible. > > I really like keeping my personal data on seperate RAID1 mirrors and > the OS on it's own set of disks if at all possible. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPT 2.7.2 iD8DBQFE/ys4Dvn/4H0LjDwRAnO+AKC32jLiQLH325lNIDlVKsPdKfJmuQCeL+0P IJOlWcvByJZSQPRGLpJpLdE= =5ubF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 6, 2006

Distributions with Syslinux?

by Richard Klein

I'm trying to install *nix on an old Gateway2000 120MHz Pentium. Most of the discs (debian 3.1, ubuntu 5.10, phlak, solaris 10, freebsd 5.1, suse 9.0, openbsd, netbsd 1.6.2) I have won't boot on it, giving an Isolinux error (I forget exactly what the error was - it's at home and I'm at work). PHLAK (I forget the version) boots, but locks up with a black screen after it starts X. I'm guessing it boots because it uses Syslinux instead of Isolinux, but I don't know if that's true. netbsd 1.6.2 also boots, and I installed that last night, but I hate the default twm window manager, I don't know how netbsd handles packages (I'm thinking of things like deb or rpm packages), I don't know my way around netbsd, this is an old version of netbsd, and netbsd is probably the wrong choice for what I want to do, anyway. I want to see if I can turn this heap into a useful web browser and email reader (well, web-mail could take care of email chores). Some basic office apps would be nice, too. So, if I'm right that this old hardware is incompatible with Isolinux, what are my options? Thanks! -- Rich

Sept. 6, 2006