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Re: [Wlug] Smart package manager

by John Stoffel

Frank> It's worth noting that the version of yum that ships with FC3 Frank> is pretty old, and newer ones are a *lot* faster. Yeah, I'm sure it is. I should think about upgrading at some point...

Sept. 19, 2006

The following may be of interest

by Andrew Robert

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Sept. 19, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Smart package manager

by Frank Sweetser

On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 10:14:08AM -0400, John Stoffel wrote: > This is really interesting. I've been very happy with 'apt-get' on my > Debian box, but I've been totally ticked at how slow 'yum' is on my > Fedora Core 3 box at work. I should probably just rebuild the thing, > but hey, it's my main desktop and working for now. It's worth noting that the version of yum that ships with FC3 is pretty old, and newer ones are a *lot* faster. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Sept. 18, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Smart package manager

by John Stoffel

Andy> Those of you who attended the most recent WLUG meeting might Andy> remember me complaining that the version of YaST on OpenSuSE Andy> 10.1 has a pathetically slow program for handling software Andy> installation. Greg Avedissian mentioned the Smart package Andy> manager (http://labix.org/smart) as an alternative, so I gave it Andy> a try. This is really interesting. I've been very happy with 'apt-get' on my Debian box, but I've been totally ticked at how slow 'yum' is on my Fedora Core 3 box at work. I should probably just rebuild the thing, but hey, it's my main desktop and working for now. But yum is just not a fast too. John

Sept. 18, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Software to use with APC UPS?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Richard Klein wrote: > Andy Stewart wrote: >> HI Rich, >> >> Are you *sure* it didn't create the CGI files, or did it just put them >> somewhere that you didn't expect? >> >> Here is what I found on my version 3.12.4 of the software: >> ./src/cgi/multimon.cgi >> ./src/cgi/upsfstats.cgi >> ./src/cgi/upsimage.cgi >> ./src/cgi/upsstats.cgi >> >> I would try "make distclean; ./configure ... ; make" again. I wouldn't >> do the "make install" until you're sure you have everything you want. > > I couldn't find the CGI files with find. So, I tried again, running > "make" before trying "make install". > > Here are the results: > http://gs750.richardklein.org/cgi-bin/multimon.cgi > Yeah, that looks about right! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFDeQ8Hl0iXDssISsRAp02AJ9snVzjIrbz2yB2UQs6hqqbM3XlEwCcD77e 3fxcg6JVS7/3NwA7mlBPOyk= =FZ8X -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 18, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Software to use with APC UPS?

by Richard Klein

Andy Stewart wrote: > > HI Rich, > > Are you *sure* it didn't create the CGI files, or did it just put them > somewhere that you didn't expect? > > Here is what I found on my version 3.12.4 of the software: > ./src/cgi/multimon.cgi > ./src/cgi/upsfstats.cgi > ./src/cgi/upsimage.cgi > ./src/cgi/upsstats.cgi > > I would try "make distclean; ./configure ... ; make" again. I wouldn't > do the "make install" until you're sure you have everything you want. I couldn't find the CGI files with find. So, I tried again, running "make" before trying "make install". Here are the results: http://gs750.richardklein.org/cgi-bin/multimon.cgi -- Rich

Sept. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Software to use with APC UPS?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Richard Klein wrote: > Andy Stewart wrote: >> I have an APC SmartUPS and I use the apcupsd software. >> >> Try this link: >> http://www.apcupsd.org/ >> >> It has a web interface. I can email you a screenshot if you are >> interested (I didn't want to spam the list with it). > > I tried 'apt-get install apcupsd' and it worked, installing > v3.10.something. I couldn't get apctest to work, though, and the > package didn't include the CGI files I wanted, so I removed it and > downloaded the src for v3.12.4 (stable). I compiled it, and everything > seems to work, but it still didn't create the CGI files. I'm sure I set > the ./configure options correctly, so why didn't it create the CGI files? HI Rich, Are you *sure* it didn't create the CGI files, or did it just put them somewhere that you didn't expect? Here is what I found on my version 3.12.4 of the software: ./src/cgi/multimon.cgi ./src/cgi/upsfstats.cgi ./src/cgi/upsimage.cgi ./src/cgi/upsstats.cgi I would try "make distclean; ./configure ... ; make" again. I wouldn't do the "make install" until you're sure you have everything you want. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFDbpkHl0iXDssISsRAlywAJwO3kmS+XFbF7yOS6oaaEkQObft4gCbBRHO QL1aucSKJDGmYHcj7CUzCAs= =eAQR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Ndiswrapper alternative?

by Mike Frysinger

On Sunday 17 September 2006 14:59, sknaqvi(a)wpi.edu wrote: > Thanks a lot for replying so quickly. I know Intel has released > proprietary source code drivers for my wireless card but compiling it > is such a lot of hassle it needs ieee but my system says ieee is > already installed. chances are you need to remove ieee from the kernel and use the latest ieee release ... that's what i had to do for my intel nic > Ndiswrapper on the other hand is easier to setup. As > for the certificates yes definitely I have downloaded both and linked > them in the conf file. I am pretty sure it is not a driver problem > since the error comes as 'authentication timed out.' The light for Wifi > also blinks frequently when the driver is configured so maybe that also > suggests that the drive is properly installed. i really wouldnt waste time on ndiswrapper ... with the intel drivers for linux, you can get support from them ... -mike

Sept. 17, 2006

Ndiswrapper alternative?

by sknaqvi＠WPI.EDU

Hi every1, Thanks a lot for replying so quickly. I know Intel has released proprietary source code drivers for my wireless card but compiling it is such a lot of hassle it needs ieee but my system says ieee is already installed. Ndiswrapper on the other hand is easier to setup. As for the certificates yes definitely I have downloaded both and linked them in the conf file. I am pretty sure it is not a driver problem since the error comes as 'authentication timed out.' The light for Wifi also blinks frequently when the driver is configured so maybe that also suggests that the drive is properly installed. Its really sad that WPILA has gone down anyone willing to join hands with me to revive it? Again, thanks in advance for helping me out in setting up the wireless. Yours sincerely, S. Kazim Naqvi

Sept. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Software to use with APC UPS?

by Richard Klein

Thanks Chuck! I have hours invested into apcupsd now, though, and I'm determined to make that work. :) -- Rich Chuck Anderson wrote: > "NUT" or Network UPS Tool is an open source UPS daemon you can try. > > http://www.networkupstools.org/ > > On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 09:12:35PM -0400, Richard Klein wrote: >> I've acquired an APC SmartUPS and plugged it into my server that runs >> Debian 3.1 (sarge). The Powerchute disc that came with it says it has >> versions for Red Hat, SuSE, TurboLinux, and a couple other distros, but >> they don't mention Debian. I haven't looked at the contents of the CD >> yet, but I bet there are some interesting alternatives from other >> sources than APC. >> >> What software would you guys suggest I try with the UPS? I don't have X >> installed on the server, so command-line is the way to go, but a web >> interface would be neat!

Sept. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Software to use with APC UPS?

by Richard Klein

Andy Stewart wrote: > > I have an APC SmartUPS and I use the apcupsd software. > > Try this link: > http://www.apcupsd.org/ > > It has a web interface. I can email you a screenshot if you are > interested (I didn't want to spam the list with it). I tried 'apt-get install apcupsd' and it worked, installing v3.10.something. I couldn't get apctest to work, though, and the package didn't include the CGI files I wanted, so I removed it and downloaded the src for v3.12.4 (stable). I compiled it, and everything seems to work, but it still didn't create the CGI files. I'm sure I set the ./configure options correctly, so why didn't it create the CGI files? I typed: ./configure --enable-powerflute --enable-cgi --with-cgi-bin=/var/www/web1/cgi-bin --with-css-dir=/var/www/web1/web --enable-usb --enable-pthreads --disable-dumb --enable-test --with-nis-port=3551 --sbindir=/sbin --with-upstype=usb --with-upscable=usb and then: make install Here's config.out: Configuration on Sun Sep 17 12:53:30 EDT 2006: Host: i686-pc-linux-gnu -- debian 3.1 Apcupsd version: 3.12.4 (19 August 2006) Source code location: . Install binaries: /sbin Install config files: /etc/apcupsd Install man files: /usr/share/man Nologin file in: /etc PID directory: /var/run LOG dir (events, status) /var/log LOCK dir (for serial port) /var/lock Power Fail dir /etc/apcupsd Compiler: /usr/bin/g++ 3.3.5 Compiler flags: -g -O2 -Wall Linker flags: -g -O Host and version: debian 3.1 Shutdown Program: /sbin/shutdown Port/Device: /dev/ttyS0 Network Info Port (CGI): 3551 Master/slave Port: 6544 UPSTYPE usb UPSCABLE usb drivers (no-* are disabled): apcsmart no-dumb no-net usb no-snmp test enable-master-slave: no enable-nis: yes with-nisip: 0.0.0.0 enable-cgi: yes with-cgi-bin: /var/www/web1/cgi-bin with-libwrap: enable-nls: no enable-libintl: no enable-powerflute: yes enable-pthreads: yes enable-dist-install: yes That all looks fine, so I don't know where it went wrong. -- Rich

Sept. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Software to use with APC UPS?

by Chuck Anderson

"NUT" or Network UPS Tool is an open source UPS daemon you can try. http://www.networkupstools.org/ On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 09:12:35PM -0400, Richard Klein wrote: > I've acquired an APC SmartUPS and plugged it into my server that runs > Debian 3.1 (sarge). The Powerchute disc that came with it says it has > versions for Red Hat, SuSE, TurboLinux, and a couple other distros, but > they don't mention Debian. I haven't looked at the contents of the CD > yet, but I bet there are some interesting alternatives from other > sources than APC. > > What software would you guys suggest I try with the UPS? I don't have X > installed on the server, so command-line is the way to go, but a web > interface would be neat!

Sept. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Software to use with APC UPS?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Richard Klein wrote: > I've acquired an APC SmartUPS and plugged it into my server that runs > Debian 3.1 (sarge). The Powerchute disc that came with it says it has > versions for Red Hat, SuSE, TurboLinux, and a couple other distros, but > they don't mention Debian. I haven't looked at the contents of the CD > yet, but I bet there are some interesting alternatives from other > sources than APC. > > What software would you guys suggest I try with the UPS? I don't have X > installed on the server, so command-line is the way to go, but a web > interface would be neat! > HI all, I have an APC SmartUPS and I use the apcupsd software. Try this link: http://www.apcupsd.org/ It has a web interface. I can email you a screenshot if you are interested (I didn't want to spam the list with it). HTH, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFDKRaHl0iXDssISsRAsyKAJ9xM6flD/6trMYT+d/5Vlkucb2ESgCfTIjt QIV/PQ3e0NPcnLLTcYZr82c= =5Sv3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 17, 2006

Software to use with APC UPS?

by Richard Klein

I've acquired an APC SmartUPS and plugged it into my server that runs Debian 3.1 (sarge). The Powerchute disc that came with it says it has versions for Red Hat, SuSE, TurboLinux, and a couple other distros, but they don't mention Debian. I haven't looked at the contents of the CD yet, but I bet there are some interesting alternatives from other sources than APC. What software would you guys suggest I try with the UPS? I don't have X installed on the server, so command-line is the way to go, but a web interface would be neat! -- Rich

Sept. 17, 2006

Smart package manager

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Those of you who attended the most recent WLUG meeting might remember me complaining that the version of YaST on OpenSuSE 10.1 has a pathetically slow program for handling software installation. Greg Avedissian mentioned the Smart package manager (http://labix.org/smart) as an alternative, so I gave it a try. The Smart package manager appears to be Linux distribution agnostic. It works on systems whose package management is based on RPM, APT, APT-RPM, YUM, etc. I tried it on my laptop, where I was having the most performance issues with YaST's software handling program. I am quite pleased with the Smart package manager! Thanks, Greg, for the recommendation! I haven't yet installed the Smart package manager on my "good" system, but I probably will if Novell doesn't fix YaST in OpenSuSE 10.2. The Smart package manager has found a permanent home on my laptop. Funding for the development of the Smart package manager is being supplied by Canonical Ltd., the same folks who are funding Ubuntu Linux. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFDIg+Hl0iXDssISsRApTfAJ9MYONVIomUGBZgSrJlZv1TFgZ1WwCfaCLM J2A2Ch5Jk0yLtWsYsTsarZM= =CTb9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] WPI wireless setup on ubuntu linux

by Chuck Anderson

On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 02:56:05AM -0400, sknaqvi(a)WPI.EDU wrote: > 1. installed ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant > 2. setup the driver using ndiswrapper and intel 3945 driver's inf file I would avoic ndiswrapper if your wireless card is supported by a native Linux driver. It is an ugly hack that has unfixable design obstacles due to the way Windows allocates a larger stack size. This can contribute to random system crashes. > 3. Configured ifconfig and iwconfig for wlan0 > 4. Ran the following command: > wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -D ndiswrapper > It's here I run into problems-I get the following output: Did you download the certificate files and specify them in the wpa_supplicant.conf?

Sept. 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] WPI wireless setup on ubuntu linux

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 sknaqvi(a)WPI.EDU wrote: > Hi every1, > I am glad to know there is a local linux community alive. I was really > looking forward to joining the WPI linux association but couldn't find > anything related at the activities fair at WPI. Could anyone tell me > their website, when their meetings are, or perhaps can I meet a member > from the association? I could be wrong, but I believe that the WPI Linux Association is defunct, and has been for a few years. A couple of people in WLUG used to be in WPILA in their undergrad days, and perhaps they know more about this. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFC/EmHl0iXDssISsRAv0sAKCJglczLM+6EblrdH5wMEj/3Dp6pACdH2wI 6P4U+04fEmS1v/b5HIzZ3pM= =mqW5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 16, 2006

WPI wireless setup on ubuntu linux

by sknaqvi＠WPI.EDU

Hi every1, I am glad to know there is a local linux community alive. I was really looking forward to joining the WPI linux association but couldn't find anything related at the activities fair at WPI. Could anyone tell me their website, when their meetings are, or perhaps can I meet a member from the association? Secondly, to setup wireless connection with WPI on-campus, I followed the instructions on a WPI webpage (a private one-i googled my problem and came up with this but sadly it isn't appearing now) and the CCC webpage but to no avail. Could anyone help me out with this-please? Anyways I would really like to meet any linux dudes like me so just drop by anytime you like-I am at Institute Hall 105. I don't know whether this would help, but here's what I did to setup the wireless: 1. installed ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant 2. setup the driver using ndiswrapper and intel 3945 driver's inf file 3. Configured ifconfig and iwconfig for wlan0 4. Ran the following command: wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -D ndiswrapper It's here I run into problems-I get the following output: ioctl[SIOCSIWSCAN]: Resource temporarily unavailable Failed to initiate AP scan. Trying to associate with 00:15:e8:df:ad:40 (SSID='WPI-Wireless' freq=0 MHz) Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out. CTRL-EVENT-TERMINATING - signal 2 received Failed to disable WPA in the driver. ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: Resource temporarily unavailable Am I doing something wrong? Do you have any suggestions. Please help because this is the only thing which would allow me to quit Windows for daily life! Thank you in advance Yours sincerely, S. Kazim Naqvi

Sept. 16, 2006

Fw: Missing Inkscape from Suse Linux 9.2: Never mind

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Never mind. Got my answer from Novell's website. My "other thought" was indeed correct. There's tons more software on the 2 DVD's than on the 5 CD's. The Novell web page even lists *exactly* which packages the CD's don't contain. I don't have a DVD drive on the Suse Linux 9.2 laptop, but I was able to read the Inkscape .rpm file on my Windows laptop which *does* have a DVD drive. Then I ftp'd the file to my Linux laptop and did an install from a local directory. Doug ----- Forwarded by Doug Aker/EMPL/MA/Verizon on 09/14/2006 03:54 PM ----- Doug Aker/EMPL/MA/Verizon 09/14/2006 01:40 PM To "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> cc Subject Missing Inkscape from Suse Linux 9.2 Hi All: Recently, I installed Suse Linux Pro 9.2 on an HP laptop. The box the software came in prominently lists, as an included program, Inkscape, the open-source vector graphics editor. The mystery is that I can find no reference to Inkscape anywhere in the system, not even in Yast when searching in the "Install and Remove Software" dialog. Now perhaps I messed up and didn't choose Inkscape during the initial install, but shouldn't Yast still list Inkscape as a "Not Installed" package? My other thought is that perhaps Inkscape is included when you install from the 2 DVD's, but somehow Novell messed up and didn't include it on the 5 CD's. Thanks, Doug

Sept. 14, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Missing Inkscape from Suse Linux 9.2

by howard＠howardwhite.net

I have SUSE 10 installed, and I'm sure it's on the DVD (though I already had Inkscape installed under 9.2.) If it's not there, it's easily available at Inkscape. In fact, it might be better to download it because the version on the 9.n distribution set would not be the latest and greatest. HW

Sept. 14, 2006

Missing Inkscape from Suse Linux 9.2

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Hi All: Recently, I installed Suse Linux Pro 9.2 on an HP laptop. The box the software came in prominently lists, as an included program, Inkscape, the open-source vector graphics editor. The mystery is that I can find no reference to Inkscape anywhere in the system, not even in Yast when searching in the "Install and Remove Software" dialog. Now perhaps I messed up and didn't choose Inkscape during the initial install, but shouldn't Yast still list Inkscape as a "Not Installed" package? My other thought is that perhaps Inkscape is included when you install from the 2 DVD's, but somehow Novell messed up and didn't include it on the 5 CD's. Thanks, Doug

Sept. 14, 2006

Re: [Wlug] What USB flash drive device to choose for Suse Linux 9.3?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com wrote: > > Hi All, > > Quick question: Is buying a USB flash drive device for Linux something > that needs a bit of research? Or, by and large, will any old device > work? I've got Suse Linux 9.3 installed on an HP Omnibook 6100. > > Thanks, > Doug I always check here for starters: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ I had a USB flash device that didn't work, but that was a while ago. I returned it and got one that was mentioned on the website (above) and have had no problems since. I'd recommend some care with cameras. My Logitech camera uses the pwc driver which has minor issues with Linux. Maybe the USB 2.0 devices fare better. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFBzEYHl0iXDssISsRAskPAJsFxKzD1pSgQdiY/0QyXTivzyJjdwCfSN1g gATLrpcTw1/2vUlo6jauLwY= =+796 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] What USB flash drive device to choose for Suse Linux 9.3?

by Karl Hiramoto

almost any of them should work.. usbstorage module douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com wrote: > > Hi All, > > Quick question: Is buying a USB flash drive device for Linux something > that needs a bit of research? Or, by and large, will any old device > work? I've got Suse Linux 9.3 installed on an HP Omnibook 6100. > > Thanks, > Doug > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/ -- Last night I dreamed I ate a ten-pound marshmallow, and when I woke up the pillow was gone. -- Tommy Cooper

Sept. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] What USB flash drive device to choose for Suse Linux 9.3?

by Brian J. Conway

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com wrote: > Hi All, > > Quick question: Is buying a USB flash drive device for Linux something > that needs a bit of research? Or, by and large, will any old device work? > I've got Suse Linux 9.3 installed on an HP Omnibook 6100. Just about any off-the-shelf "flash stick" or USB-connected hard drive enclosure will all use the kernel's usb-storage and SD drivers. Lots of cameras, too. Brian J. Conway bconway(at)alum.wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992

Sept. 12, 2006

What USB flash drive device to choose for Suse Linux 9.3?

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Hi All, Quick question: Is buying a USB flash drive device for Linux something that needs a bit of research? Or, by and large, will any old device work? I've got Suse Linux 9.3 installed on an HP Omnibook 6100. Thanks, Doug

Sept. 12, 2006