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Re: [Wlug] Window manager problem

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andy Stewart wrote: > Andy Stewart wrote: >> Hi Bruce, > >> If you can fire up any window manager, it should allow you to manipulate >> your windows, bail out cleanly, or whatever you'd like to do (go back to >> Yast and turn off 3D, etc). > >> For KDE, the window manager is /opt/kde3/bin/kwin, if I'm not mistaken. >> If there is one terminal window available in which you can type a >> command, try that and see if it starts the window manager. > > Oops, now I've just read that you are using Gnome. OK, same thing > applies, but substitute in the name of the Gnome window manager. I > don't know what that might be, unfortunately. I'm sure somebody else > will chime in with that information. Try this: /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-wm - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6NWwHl0iXDssISsRAlMrAJ9Cs61hrvkS20MNoy81u79vRiOmbACeM3ZQ 7KSGDgmN7rzzFJ9BGilpwbQ= =2+Lo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

March 3, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Window manager problem

by Eric Stein

What is the content of ~/.xinitrc on your system? Mine for gnome (I suspect it broke yours): eastein@glamdring:/home/eastein$ cat .xinitrc #!/bin/sh gnome-session Eric Bruce Linnell wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm running openSuSE 10.2, and decided I wanted to try some of the 3D > Desktop effects. So I tried activating them through the YaST control > panel. Now not only do I not have 3D effects, I seem to have lost my > window manager as well. I can open apps and applets, utilities and > folders, but none have a title bar to grab for moving the window, and > none have the max, min, and close buttons, and if it doesn't have a > close or quit option in a drop down menu, I can't close it (them). > > So I end up with a screen full of unmoveable, unresizeable, and in some > cases, uncloseable windows. It reminds me of an old steamer trunk with > decals plastered all over it. > > The boot screen only shows 2 icons just prior to opening the desktop: > the desktop icon, and the Gnome footprint icon. The double window icon > is no longer there. > > Booting as root is normal with all 3 icons in the splash screen, and > full window(s) functionality. So this problem seems contained to my user > account. > > I'm hopeful that restoring the window manager will also let me configure > the 3D effects, but if not, I'd like to get back to normal. Any > suggestions? > > Bruce > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 3, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Window manager problem

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andy Stewart wrote: > > Hi Bruce, > > If you can fire up any window manager, it should allow you to manipulate > your windows, bail out cleanly, or whatever you'd like to do (go back to > Yast and turn off 3D, etc). > > For KDE, the window manager is /opt/kde3/bin/kwin, if I'm not mistaken. > If there is one terminal window available in which you can type a > command, try that and see if it starts the window manager. Oops, now I've just read that you are using Gnome. OK, same thing applies, but substitute in the name of the Gnome window manager. I don't know what that might be, unfortunately. I'm sure somebody else will chime in with that information. I assumed KDE because that's pretty standard for SuSE. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6NRBHl0iXDssISsRAnH6AJ4xsbRIwo2yWs833FBZEU14rEO0yQCfUiDh vy2/9rl4hLHfLnddzIE0Ono= =8wLi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

March 3, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Window manager problem

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bruce, If you can fire up any window manager, it should allow you to manipulate your windows, bail out cleanly, or whatever you'd like to do (go back to Yast and turn off 3D, etc). For KDE, the window manager is /opt/kde3/bin/kwin, if I'm not mistaken. If there is one terminal window available in which you can type a command, try that and see if it starts the window manager. Failing that, can you get to a text console via Ctrl-Alt-F1 ? If so, try this: (setenv DISPLAY :0; /opt/kde3/bin/kwin)& or (export DISPLAY=:0; /opt/kde3/bin/kwin)& The first command works in (t)csh, while the other works in BASH, depending on which is your login shell. If you haven't explicitly modified it, it will be bash, in which case the 2nd command should work. You could also get to a text console, log in as root, and drop to runlevel 3 (which would kill off your X windows session) thus: telinit 3 To restart X windows, try this: telinit 5 You could also run YaST from the text console. The interface isn't as pretty, and it doesn't use the mouse (think tabs and arrow keys), but it is perfectly functional. There should be no need to reboot. I hope this helps, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6NPYHl0iXDssISsRAq/uAJ0Z+qzCOR9/whW01Xbt08Q2B5rd/gCdHesi p/k/obqiqpuTt4Z1zhNNYt0= =9a9K -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

March 3, 2007

(no subject)

by Bruce Linnell

Oh yeah, I'm also using Gnome.

March 3, 2007

Window manager problem

by Bruce Linnell

Hi everyone, I'm running openSuSE 10.2, and decided I wanted to try some of the 3D Desktop effects. So I tried activating them through the YaST control panel. Now not only do I not have 3D effects, I seem to have lost my window manager as well. I can open apps and applets, utilities and folders, but none have a title bar to grab for moving the window, and none have the max, min, and close buttons, and if it doesn't have a close or quit option in a drop down menu, I can't close it (them). So I end up with a screen full of unmoveable, unresizeable, and in some cases, uncloseable windows. It reminds me of an old steamer trunk with decals plastered all over it. The boot screen only shows 2 icons just prior to opening the desktop: the desktop icon, and the Gnome footprint icon. The double window icon is no longer there. Booting as root is normal with all 3 icons in the splash screen, and full window(s) functionality. So this problem seems contained to my user account. I'm hopeful that restoring the window manager will also let me configure the 3D effects, but if not, I'd like to get back to normal. Any suggestions? Bruce

March 3, 2007

Re: [Wlug] SATA chipset Sil 3132

by Eric Stein

I figured this exact solution out before I went to dinner, but I hadn't gotten around to emailing it out yet. Here's the link I got the info from: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=42a7ff7f4422b32a30… See edM's second post. Thanks for your help, though! My RAID is now building for the first time! glamdring proc # cat mdstat Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] md0 : active raid5 sde[4] sdd[2] sdc[1] sdb[0] 1172133888 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/3] [UUU_] [=============>.......] recovery = 69.1% (270093056/390711296) finish=34.2min speed=58640K/sec unused devices: <none> Eric Jamie Guinan wrote: > On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Eric Stein wrote: > > >> Hi all, >> >> I've recently acquired some more hard drives and I just plugged one in >> to the secondary SATA ports on my motherboard for the first time. >> However, my Gentoo box isn't seeing it. I have an Abit AN8-32X >> motherboard (the other drives are on the Nvidia SATAII controller). For >> info about the board, go here: >> >> http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/an8-32x/ >> >> In make menuconfig (from the kernel I am running right now (2.6.18)): >> <*> Silicon Image chipset support >> > > I'm have 2.6.19 handy, and I see, > > Device Drivers ---> > ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support ---> > < > Silicon Image chipset support > > but also, > > Device Drivers ---> > Serial ATA (prod) and Parallel ATA (experimental) drivers ---> > < > Silicon Image SATA support > < > Silicon Image 3124/3132 SATA support > > I think the latter is what you might need. Its the new libata... > reworked IDE... thingy. I haven't followed it that closely, but this > link might be of interest, > > http://lwn.net/Articles/198344/ > > -Jamie > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 2, 2007

Re: [Wlug] SATA chipset Sil 3132

by Jamie Guinan

On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Eric Stein wrote: > Hi all, > > I've recently acquired some more hard drives and I just plugged one in > to the secondary SATA ports on my motherboard for the first time. > However, my Gentoo box isn't seeing it. I have an Abit AN8-32X > motherboard (the other drives are on the Nvidia SATAII controller). For > info about the board, go here: > > http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/an8-32x/ > > In make menuconfig (from the kernel I am running right now (2.6.18)): > <*> Silicon Image chipset support I'm have 2.6.19 handy, and I see, Device Drivers ---> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support ---> < > Silicon Image chipset support but also, Device Drivers ---> Serial ATA (prod) and Parallel ATA (experimental) drivers ---> < > Silicon Image SATA support < > Silicon Image 3124/3132 SATA support I think the latter is what you might need. Its the new libata... reworked IDE... thingy. I haven't followed it that closely, but this link might be of interest, http://lwn.net/Articles/198344/ -Jamie

March 2, 2007

SATA chipset Sil 3132

by Eric Stein

Hi all, I've recently acquired some more hard drives and I just plugged one in to the secondary SATA ports on my motherboard for the first time. However, my Gentoo box isn't seeing it. I have an Abit AN8-32X motherboard (the other drives are on the Nvidia SATAII controller). For info about the board, go here: http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/an8-32x/ In make menuconfig (from the kernel I am running right now (2.6.18)): <*> Silicon Image chipset support My BIOS lists a drive in the Sil SATA display during IDE/SATA scanning. I have swapped the drive to the other controller to see if it is a hardware problem with the drive. It shows up in LSPCI, but it doesn't show up in fdisk -l. glamdring dev # lspci 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2) 00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2) 00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2) 00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2) 00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2) 00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2) 00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2) 00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2) 00:02.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 00:09.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory Controller (rev a4) 00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 ISA Bridge (rev a4) 00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2) 00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a4) 00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2) 00:0f.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 IDE (rev f3) 00:10.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3) <====== works fine 00:11.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3) <====== works fine 00:12.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCI Bridge (rev a2) 00:13.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3) 00:14.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:15.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:16.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:17.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:00.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3132 Serial ATA Raid II Controller (rev 01) <====== look, there it is 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)] (rev a1) 04:06.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) 08:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)] (rev a1) glamdring dev # fdisk -l Disk /dev/hdc: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk /dev/hdc doesn't contain a valid partition table Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 17 136521 83 Linux /dev/sda2 18 516 4008217+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda3 517 1513 8008402+ 83 Linux /dev/sda4 1514 9729 65995020 83 Linux Disk /dev/sdb: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table Disk /dev/sdc: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table Disk /dev/sdd: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk /dev/sdd doesn't contain a valid partition table glamdring dev # Where's /dev/sde hiding? Eric

March 2, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Comprimised servers?

by Karl Hiramoto

What gives you evidence they were compromised? To what extent was security breached? Was just a website defaced, did they get user, or root access? Do you know how they got in? You may want to audit all of your running services and check if there are known exploits. Unfortunately your best option may be to backup your data, format disks, and reinstall the OS. It can be hard to tell if a back door was installed. .. karl Michael Zarozinski wrote: > Hi all, > > It appears as if 2 servers we have were compromised. Does anyone know of > someone or a business we can get to examine our servers and tell us what > to do? Our hosting company is not the easiest to deal with and I'm > having trouble getting anything beyond level 1 support from them. > > Thank you in advance, > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Feb. 28, 2007

Comprimised servers?

by Michael Zarozinski

Hi all, It appears as if 2 servers we have were compromised. Does anyone know of someone or a business we can get to examine our servers and tell us what to do? Our hosting company is not the easiest to deal with and I'm having trouble getting anything beyond level 1 support from them. Thank you in advance, Michael

Feb. 28, 2007

Ham Radio meeting about GNU Radio...

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gang, FYI: I thought some of you might be interested in this meeting regarding GNU Radio. I think I'm going to attend, but admittedly its a lot closer to my house than it probably is to yours. Later, Andy - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [PART/WB1GOF] FW: 2/24 CWA Meeting on Gnu Radio Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:02:48 -0500 From: Steve Telsey <steve.n1bda(a)verizon.net> To: PART <PART-L(a)wb1gof.org> - -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Pettengill [mailto:ghp@space.mit.edu] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 2:27 PM To: CWA Members Subject: 2/24 CWA Meeting Dear CWA Members, As you already know, there will be a meeting of the Colonial Wireless Association next Wednesday evening, 28 February at 7:30pm, in the Concord-Carlisle High School on Thoreau St. The invited speaker is Dr. Gregory D. Troxel, N1DAM, who is a network researcher at BBN Technologies working on software radios for the Department of Defense. Greg will give an overview of software-defined radio, a new technology that is already changing Ham Radio, and will talk about a free software radio package called GNU Radio. Greg will also describe a hardware front-end for software radios, the USRP, that uses daughter-boards for various functions, from transceivers for 440, 902, 1296 and 2400 MHz to boards for IF use. Greg's talk will highlight the challenges in changing GNU Radio from receiving continuous signals to packet radio. Following the talk, Greg will demonstrate GNU Radio and the USRP with several daughter-boards. Unfortunately, I will be unable to join you, but hope for a good attendance. As a result of generous donations over the past month, our treasury now stands at $2194.28. 73, Gordon Pettengill W1OUN - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/696 - Release Date: 2/21/2007 _______________________________________________ Police Amateur Radio Team (PART) of Westford Post messages to: PART-L(a)wb1gof.org (Un)Subscribe at http://PART-L.wb1gof.org - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF4OekHl0iXDssISsRAs5MAJoD+48OSb+BkTaeE1idTvCDUvHvOgCfVvWw wdMkFN4H2sDsAePHOavWgOo= =J4// -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Feb. 25, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Amarok

by Hanley.net

Eric Stein wrote: > Wow, I use amarok nearly constantly and I never heard this before. > > Eric I just checked Wikipedia and there is a mention of the pop-up (Easter Egg) towards the bottom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarok_%28audio%29 I noticed I said "flec" in my post. That should have been "flac", of course. :-) -- Gary

Feb. 23, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Amarok

by Eric Stein

Wow, I use amarok nearly constantly and I never heard this before. Eric Gary Hanley wrote: > I picked up a Cowon iAudio U3 a few weeks ago after and exhaustive > search for a player with a good amount of memory (2GB) and plays > ogg and flec files. > > Anyway, I've been burning my CDs to ogg/vorbis as time allows to build > a library for myself and recently burned my old copy of Mike > Oldfield's _Amarok_. > > I honestly never made the connection between the name of the album and > my new favorite media player, but when I started playing amarok.ogg > in the Amarok player this morning this popped up: > > "One of Mike Oldfield's best pieces of work, Amarok, inspired the name > behind the audio-player you are currently using. Thanks for choosing > Amarok! > Mark Kretschmann > Max Howell > Chris Muehlhaeuser > The many other people who have helped make Amarok what it is" > > Cool! Just thought I'd share that. :-) > > -- Gary > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 23, 2007

Amarok

by Gary Hanley

I picked up a Cowon iAudio U3 a few weeks ago after and exhaustive search for a player with a good amount of memory (2GB) and plays ogg and flec files. Anyway, I've been burning my CDs to ogg/vorbis as time allows to build a library for myself and recently burned my old copy of Mike Oldfield's _Amarok_. I honestly never made the connection between the name of the album and my new favorite media player, but when I started playing amarok.ogg in the Amarok player this morning this popped up: "One of Mike Oldfield's best pieces of work, Amarok, inspired the name behind the audio-player you are currently using. Thanks for choosing Amarok! Mark Kretschmann Max Howell Chris Muehlhaeuser The many other people who have helped make Amarok what it is" Cool! Just thought I'd share that. :-) -- Gary

Feb. 22, 2007

Dell survey

by Mike Leo

http://www.dellideastorm.com/ I found this interesting.

Feb. 22, 2007

Re: [Wlug] interesting backups problem

by Eric Stein

It is mostly full. It's not possible to shrink it enough to make a difference. Interesting idea, though. I'm borrowing a 200GB drive from a friend so I can use it as scratch space, but the IDE to USB adapter is producing some interesting results in /var/log/messages... Feb 21 22:23:30 glamdring kernel: usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6 Feb 21 22:23:31 glamdring kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Feb 21 22:23:31 glamdring kernel: scsi7 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Feb 21 22:23:41 glamdring kernel: usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 6 Feb 21 22:23:41 glamdring kernel: scsi 7:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery Does anyone know what this means? Is the drive dead? Eric Aaron Haviland wrote: > Eric Stein wrote, on Feb 18, 2007 at 20:18 EST: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've got an interesting issue with disk usage. I have a hard disk image >> (from dd) stored on a server, and it needs to be compressed it to make >> room for other data. The image is 160 GB, but I only have 30 GB of free >> space to work with; the data isn't compressible enough to fit in 30 GB >> in the meantime. I don't need the image right now and having only a >> compressed copy is perfectly fine. How can I compress the image while >> simultaneously deleting the old data? I can think of a way to do it >> using perl, dd, and some other tools, but I'd much prefer to do it the >> "right" way if there is one. >> > > Is the image completely full or is there free space within the image? > i.e., might you be able to resize it smaller with ext2resize or > somesuch? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 22, 2007

Re: [Wlug] interesting backups problem

by Aaron Haviland

Eric Stein wrote, on Feb 18, 2007 at 20:18 EST: > Hi all, > > I've got an interesting issue with disk usage. I have a hard disk image > (from dd) stored on a server, and it needs to be compressed it to make > room for other data. The image is 160 GB, but I only have 30 GB of free > space to work with; the data isn't compressible enough to fit in 30 GB > in the meantime. I don't need the image right now and having only a > compressed copy is perfectly fine. How can I compress the image while > simultaneously deleting the old data? I can think of a way to do it > using perl, dd, and some other tools, but I'd much prefer to do it the > "right" way if there is one. Is the image completely full or is there free space within the image? i.e., might you be able to resize it smaller with ext2resize or somesuch? -- Aaron

Feb. 21, 2007

Re: [Wlug] switch distros???

by Brendan

On Saturday 17 February 2007, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > A big win would be to get my 17 yr old son off windows. He's forever > infecting the windows box with junk from his web surfing. Install Ubuntu (I prefer Kubuntu, but hey I do KDE devel). Set up *AHEAD OF TIME* all paths, icons, multimedia codecs, etc. Anything you could possibly want to do in Windows....Just to cut down on the bitching later. In the meantime, install Firefox and remove all IE icons. Remove AOL, no matter what the wife says. Use a stick if necessary. Just tell her that "AOL broke". Say nothing further. Your son will want games. Get him a Wii. Buy an extra controller and invite me over. I kill at Bowling.

Feb. 20, 2007

Re: [Wlug] interesting backups problem

by Adam Keck

Perhaps... 1. Copy off a chunk of it with a split-like tool (dd may do the trick with "seek") or some code. Make the chunk small enough such that the chunk copy and the compressed version of the chunk will fit in 30GB. 2. Compress the chunk. 3. Truncate the chunk off of the disk image. 4. Repeat. It's risky, though, since the original file gets altered. -Adam On 2/18/07, Eric Stein <eastein(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've got an interesting issue with disk usage. I have a hard disk image > (from dd) stored on a server, and it needs to be compressed it to make > room for other data. The image is 160 GB, but I only have 30 GB of free > space to work with; the data isn't compressible enough to fit in 30 GB > in the meantime. I don't need the image right now and having only a > compressed copy is perfectly fine. How can I compress the image while > simultaneously deleting the old data? I can think of a way to do it > using perl, dd, and some other tools, but I'd much prefer to do it the > "right" way if there is one. > > Eric > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- -Adam

Feb. 19, 2007

Re: [Wlug] switch distros???

by Bruce Linnell

Bill, I've been a Linux user for less than a month now, so take this with a grain of salt. In my search for a distro, I first tried Gentoo and Ubuntu, and finally installed openSuSE. Its a large distro (5 CDs, or 1 DVD), so you may have space considerations. For me, anyway, its been more user friendly than the others - YaST is a blast...lol. I think the key here as far as your family goes is to use the same distro for all, and that should be the one you are happiest with, because in the final analysis its going to be you at the help desk while they climb the learning curve. Is there enough room on your son's box to set it up for dual booting? Just a thought... Good luck, Bruce On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 17:00 -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I have an opportunity to get my wife to consider switching from > Windows to linux, but I don't think Fedora is the right distro for > her. I'm wondering about Linspire/Freespire (Freespire is to Linspire > as Fedora is to RedHat?) or Ubuntu. (I've been using Redhat & Fedora > since '98.) I've also been frustrated at some of the compatibility > problems (like wireless) with Fedora, so I'm considering switching, > too. On the other hand, I like being able to get some of the newest > apps, like the newest gnucash, on Fedora. > > Eric Raymond's recent piece on Slashdot was pretty convincing, too. > He argued that it is good for the linux open/free community to get > linux in as many places as possible, even if it means mixing the > distros with commercial drivers, because linux needs more market share > in order to succeed against windows, particularly as 64-bit comes on > the scene. > > The "family license" of Linspire seems pretty attractive, too. > > A big win would be to get my 17 yr old son off windows. He's forever > infecting the windows box with junk from his web surfing. > > My most-used apps: > Open office > Tetex/latex > ps utils > gnucash > mutt > VPN (compatible with my work, which uses Cisco) > wine > perl > firefox > USB devices: scanner, drive, camera > code development utils > multimedia (not so good on Fedora) > gpg > > My wife would like to use Publisher (windows). She might be able to > use Scribus (I haven't used it successfully). > Her favorites: > AOL (I can't break her loose of this) > MS office apps > > Suggestions? > > Thanks, > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 19, 2007

interesting backups problem

by Eric Stein

Hi all, I've got an interesting issue with disk usage. I have a hard disk image (from dd) stored on a server, and it needs to be compressed it to make room for other data. The image is 160 GB, but I only have 30 GB of free space to work with; the data isn't compressible enough to fit in 30 GB in the meantime. I don't need the image right now and having only a compressed copy is perfectly fine. How can I compress the image while simultaneously deleting the old data? I can think of a way to do it using perl, dd, and some other tools, but I'd much prefer to do it the "right" way if there is one. Eric

Feb. 19, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Update

by Eric Stein

Hi Bruce, At my apartment there are 3 Linux desktops and 4 Windows machines. My fileserver downstairs also acts as a CUPS/Samba printserver (it runs Gentoo Linux). If you are using Gentoo, you can use these directions to configure this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Native_Windows_Printing_with_CUPS/Samba Otherwise, I don't know. I'm sure doing the same is possible on other distros as well. Please note that your wife may be disagreeable to having printing not working at all for a day or so while you wrestle with cups and samba, so I don't know how helpful this info is. Eric Put Bruce Linnell wrote: > My wife complained because she couldn't print something from her > computer. I checked it out and found the print queue populated with the > test pages I had tried to print from the Linux box. > > So the good news is that the pages are making it to the printer, and the > bad news is that they are still not being printed. In fact, I could not > cancel the first job. I had to reboot to clear the queue. Which then let > my wife print her job. > > When I again tried to print, the printer made noises like it was going > to start, but then just stalled again. Another reboot for me, and an > update for the list. > > Anyone know of a possible fix? > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 19, 2007

Update

by Bruce Linnell

My wife complained because she couldn't print something from her computer. I checked it out and found the print queue populated with the test pages I had tried to print from the Linux box. So the good news is that the pages are making it to the printer, and the bad news is that they are still not being printed. In fact, I could not cancel the first job. I had to reboot to clear the queue. Which then let my wife print her job. When I again tried to print, the printer made noises like it was going to start, but then just stalled again. Another reboot for me, and an update for the list. Anyone know of a possible fix?

Feb. 18, 2007

This 'n that

by Bruce Linnell

I want to thank everyone at Thursday night's meeting for the warm welcome. What a treat it was to be sitting in a group and being able to use words like "distro", "Gnome", and "YaST" without drawing strange looks. The pizza was good, too. :-) I learned alot, but not as much as I thought I had. When I tried to get my printer functional I must have forgotten or misunderstood the advice that was shared with me. (I will be bringing a notebook with me next meeting.) I've got openSuSE 10.2 and access the net through a wireless router. There are 4 boxes on the LAN and the other 3 are WinXP systems. The printer we use is connected to one of those machines. I can ping the printer host box from my Linux system. Printer sharing is turned on at the host, and the XP machines print fine through the LAN. The CUPS job monitor acts as if the print jobs are being sent, right down to the progress bar and the printer icon going from green to yellow and back to green, with no error messages. But of course, there is no page forthcoming from the printer or this email would have been much shorter. It sounded so simple at the meeting...

Feb. 18, 2007