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Re: [Wlug] New to the group

by Mike Leo

i also live in leominster and work in Cambridge...small world i guess. I haven't been to a meeting in a while, but if i go and you need a ride, let me know. ----- Original Message ---- From: Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> To: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:53:06 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] New to the group Hi Andy, and hello to everyone in WLUG! I will definitely try to make May's meeting. I have been working on various X-nix based systems since 1999 (Solaris, HPUX, AIX, Red-Hat, and now CRUX). I do a lot in Perl, MySQL, Nagios, BASH, and Apache. Interests...varies depending on what I am doing at any given time. I would like to learn more about IPC programming and multi-process threading in X-nix. I like getting my hands dirty working with hardware. I would not mind learning more about building custom hardware that interfaces with a system...perhaps robotics or telecom (don't get the wrong idea, I have little knowledge in this area right now). Tal PS Oh, and I live in Leominster...but work in Boston -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:44 AM To: wlug(a)cohen123.com Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] New to the group -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tal Cohen wrote: > Hi, > I am new to this group. I want to find out when the meetings are, and > when. > > Thanks, > Tal HI Tal, Welcome to WLUG! I just got home from this evening's meeting. I got the sense that it went well. I'm stuffed with pizza and soda. Hopefully you'll be able to come to a few meetings and meet folks. We meet once per month at WPI in Worcester, MA USA. Let us know if you have other questions about the group, and we'll be sure to answer them. Also, I'm sure people are curious about your interest and experience with Linux, so please, do tell. See ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGHbkHHl0iXDssISsRAsyPAJwJK0ld/6c/I/2bhsO/aY14PUpz1QCePqNx FSyZOMpNzsBRJGHQc6bUTNQ= =BRds -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 12, 2007

Re: [Wlug] New to the group

by Tal Cohen

Hi Andy, and hello to everyone in WLUG! I will definitely try to make May's meeting. I have been working on various X-nix based systems since 1999 (Solaris, HPUX, AIX, Red-Hat, and now CRUX). I do a lot in Perl, MySQL, Nagios, BASH, and Apache. Interests...varies depending on what I am doing at any given time. I would like to learn more about IPC programming and multi-process threading in X-nix. I like getting my hands dirty working with hardware. I would not mind learning more about building custom hardware that interfaces with a system...perhaps robotics or telecom (don't get the wrong idea, I have little knowledge in this area right now). Tal PS Oh, and I live in Leominster...but work in Boston -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:44 AM To: wlug(a)cohen123.com Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] New to the group -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tal Cohen wrote: > Hi, > I am new to this group. I want to find out when the meetings are, and > when. > > Thanks, > Tal HI Tal, Welcome to WLUG! I just got home from this evening's meeting. I got the sense that it went well. I'm stuffed with pizza and soda. Hopefully you'll be able to come to a few meetings and meet folks. We meet once per month at WPI in Worcester, MA USA. Let us know if you have other questions about the group, and we'll be sure to answer them. Also, I'm sure people are curious about your interest and experience with Linux, so please, do tell. See ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGHbkHHl0iXDssISsRAsyPAJwJK0ld/6c/I/2bhsO/aY14PUpz1QCePqNx FSyZOMpNzsBRJGHQc6bUTNQ= =BRds -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 12, 2007

Re: [Wlug] New to the group

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tal Cohen wrote: > Hi, > I am new to this group. I want to find out when the meetings are, and > when. > > Thanks, > Tal HI Tal, Welcome to WLUG! I just got home from this evening's meeting. I got the sense that it went well. I'm stuffed with pizza and soda. Hopefully you'll be able to come to a few meetings and meet folks. We meet once per month at WPI in Worcester, MA USA. Let us know if you have other questions about the group, and we'll be sure to answer them. Also, I'm sure people are curious about your interest and experience with Linux, so please, do tell. See ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGHbkHHl0iXDssISsRAsyPAJwJK0ld/6c/I/2bhsO/aY14PUpz1QCePqNx FSyZOMpNzsBRJGHQc6bUTNQ= =BRds -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 12, 2007

Re: [Wlug] New to the group

by Terry S

Hi Tal, Welcome to WLUG! I'm new too, joined a couple weeks ago and this is my first meeting also. Sincerely, Terry S.

April 11, 2007

Re: [Wlug] New to the group

by Christian Roy

Yes, there is parking on both the quad (front of the building) and street (back of the building). There shouldn't be too many problems getting a spot at that hour, I believe. (I live on campus, so I'm not certain how hard it is to get a spot). - Christian Roy On 4/11/07, Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> wrote: > > Doh! Your right, I was being lazy. > > Not being familiar with WPI, is there parking near by? > > Tal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Frysinger [mailto:vapier@gentoo.org] > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:16 AM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Cc: Tal Cohen > Subject: Re: [Wlug] New to the group > > On Wednesday 11 April 2007, Tal Cohen wrote: > > I am new to this group. I want to find out when the meetings are, and > > when. > > if you got on the mailing list then you must have seen the website right ? > > http://wlug.org/ > -mike > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 11, 2007

Re: [Wlug] New to the group

by Tal Cohen

Doh! Your right, I was being lazy. Not being familiar with WPI, is there parking near by? Tal -----Original Message----- From: Mike Frysinger [mailto:vapier@gentoo.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:16 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Cc: Tal Cohen Subject: Re: [Wlug] New to the group On Wednesday 11 April 2007, Tal Cohen wrote: > I am new to this group. I want to find out when the meetings are, and > when. if you got on the mailing list then you must have seen the website right ? http://wlug.org/ -mike

April 11, 2007

Re: [Wlug] New to the group

by James Gray

Check out the schedule of meetings - http://wlug.org/meetings.html Near the bottom is a link to a map of WPI, where the meetings are held. There are also directions to WPI on their website, of course. The next meeting in April 11, TODAY! On 4/11/07, Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> wrote: > > Hi, > I am new to this group. I want to find out when the meetings are, and > when. > > Thanks, > Tal > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 11, 2007

Re: [Wlug] New to the group

by Mike Frysinger

On Wednesday 11 April 2007, Tal Cohen wrote: > I am new to this group. I want to find out when the meetings are, and > when. if you got on the mailing list then you must have seen the website right ? http://wlug.org/ -mike

April 11, 2007

Re: [Wlug] New to the group

by Mike Leo

http://wlug.org/meetings.html and welcome to the pack.....are groups of penguins called packs? ----- Original Message ---- From: Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:59:11 AM Subject: [Wlug] New to the group Hi, I am new to this group. I want to find out when the meetings are, and when. Thanks, Tal _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 11, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics

by freak4uxxx＠gmail.com

the city has just hooked up with somebody and its free up to a certain day. Give customer service a call at 508 929 1300 and they can fill you in. -Eric -----Original Message----- From: Dick Goodman <wlug(a)goodman1.net> Subj: Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics Date: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:39 pm Size: 712 bytes To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV >and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga >computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. If you're a Worcester city resident, you can drop off at the Millbury St (used to be Ballard St) recycling center for $5 a pop (computers and monitors) ...only time I had a problem was doing a major cleanout, about 10 of each, convincing them I was not a business Call for an appointment time. www.ci.worcester.ma.us look under Public Works & Parks, Residential Drop-Off Center Dick _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 11, 2007

New to the group

by Tal Cohen

Hi, I am new to this group. I want to find out when the meetings are, and when. Thanks, Tal

April 11, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics

by Tal Cohen

If you are a resident of Leominster, I think you can take it to the transfer station on Rt. 117 (Near the 190 junction). You should call the DPW for details. Tal (I am a new user, be gentle) -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Dick Goodman Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:03 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics >Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV >and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga >computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. If you're a Worcester city resident, you can drop off at the Millbury St (used to be Ballard St) recycling center for $5 a pop (computers and monitors) ...only time I had a problem was doing a major cleanout, about 10 of each, convincing them I was not a business Call for an appointment time. www.ci.worcester.ma.us look under Public Works & Parks, Residential Drop-Off Center Dick _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 11, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics

by Dick Goodman

>Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV >and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga >computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. If you're a Worcester city resident, you can drop off at the Millbury St (used to be Ballard St) recycling center for $5 a pop (computers and monitors) ...only time I had a problem was doing a major cleanout, about 10 of each, convincing them I was not a business Call for an appointment time. www.ci.worcester.ma.us look under Public Works & Parks, Residential Drop-Off Center Dick

April 11, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics

by Mike Leo

East Coast Electronics Recycling Inc. 59 Williams St., Leominster MA 01453, United States Private Company, Headquarters Location (978) 537-9940 I went there with 2 car loads of PC parts and printers and maybe a tv. 3 guys unloaded my car onto a scale....i paid 10cents per pound. Conveniently located near the junction of 190 & rt2, behind the mall. Hope this helps ----- Original Message ---- From: Adam Keck <ghostis(a)gmail.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:36:39 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics Hello Mike, I have an old TV taking up space as well. Can you provide more details? Thanks! -Adam On 4/10/07, Mike Leo < mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: there is a place in leominster that will take it at 10c/lb.....meaning you pay them 10c for every pound of whatever you want to get rid of. They are behind the "Sears town mall" now re-named "The Mall at Whitney Field". I can give more details if interested. ----- Original Message ---- From: "dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com" < dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:54:13 PM Subject: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- -Adam _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 11, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics

by Adam Keck

Hello Mike, I have an old TV taking up space as well. Can you provide more details? Thanks! -Adam On 4/10/07, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > there is a place in leominster that will take it at 10c/lb.....meaning you > pay them 10c for every pound of whatever you want to get rid of. > > They are behind the "Sears town mall" now re-named "The Mall at Whitney > Field". > > I can give more details if interested. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com" <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:54:13 PM > Subject: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics > > Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV > and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga > computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. > > Dennis Payne > dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- -Adam

April 10, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics

by Mike Leo

there is a place in leominster that will take it at 10c/lb.....meaning you pay them 10c for every pound of whatever you want to get rid of. They are behind the "Sears town mall" now re-named "The Mall at Whitney Field". I can give more details if interested. ----- Original Message ---- From: "dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com" <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:54:13 PM Subject: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 10, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics

by Desdinova

On 4/10/07, dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> wrote: > Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV > and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga > computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. > > Dennis Payne > dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com I'm not sure about Worcester proper, but I know leicester/cherry valley has a recycling centre. I'm fairly certain you need a car tag to dump there but I don't think they care if you're just dropping off electronics, since they charge you a fee anyway. It's reasonable, $5-30(iirc), depending on size. Take care, James

April 10, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics

by Jamie Guinan

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Jamie Guinan wrote: > On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com wrote: > > > Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV > > and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga > > computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. > > http://www.mass.gov/dep/recycle/reduce/crtrsbz.htm > http://www.wastecap.org/wastecap/rsd2003/ One more, http://www.metech-arm.com/index.html http://www.recycleapc.com/announcement.html [ linked from above ] although you should probably call ahead to see if there's a fee. -Jamie

April 10, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics

by Jamie Guinan

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com wrote: > Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV > and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga > computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. http://www.mass.gov/dep/recycle/reduce/crtrsbz.htm http://www.wastecap.org/wastecap/rsd2003/ I paid $30 to get rid of a dead 27in Sony at E.L. Harvey in Westborough. I would have looked around for a better deal (my town takes them for $10, between 9am-noon *one* day a year), but I had to make room in my garage. -Jamie

April 10, 2007

Recycling Electronics

by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com

Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

April 10, 2007

Re: [Wlug] ULTRA1 Gentoo Install presents a problem

by Eric Martin

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Why not also try an emerge sync as opposed to exploding the latest portage tarball. More to what others are saying, my laptop that overheats has a similar problem where it will tank under an enourmous load (the temp gets to 84C). I never had a problem with the fan on the sparc so I never replaced it. Eric John Stoffel wrote: > Mike> On Tuesday 10 April 2007, ken jones wrote: >>> While doing "tar xvjf /mnt/gentoo/portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C >>> /mnt/gentoo/usr" the machine stopped dead. This has happened twice. I >>> fear that I do not have enough hard disk space, but I would hope for a >>> gentler error message. > > Mike> i doubt disk space has anything to do with it ... if the machine > Mike> bit it like this, it's because the kernel barfed either due to > Mike> bad driver or bad hardware > > It smells like bad hardware to me... what you can do is drop down to > the openprom prompt (ok) and do the following: > > > ok setenv diag-switch? true > ok setenv diag-level max > ok setenv auto-boot? false > ok reset > > And watch what happens on bootup. This will test the machine a bit > more and let you know what's happening. > > Also, the Ultra 1s had a bad problem with the CPU fans, I ended up > replacing dozens of them at a past job. Open the case and make sure > the CPU fan is running. While oyu're in there, blow out any dust you > can with some compressed air, just to make sure. > > If the CPU fan isn't spinning, then you know where there problem is. > > Also, if I could, I'd just give you some old Sparc 60s we're scapping > here at work... :] > > John > john(a)stoffel.org > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGG9BSaiVxdKlBO58RAq3TAJ0Rr+4FBQuxW3FNizXKy/crGKXULQCcDQxf gtpFz4a9yr/jkBU1YoG7tS0= =a2Vy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 10, 2007

Re: [Wlug] ULTRA1 Gentoo Install presents a problem

by John Stoffel

Mike> On Tuesday 10 April 2007, ken jones wrote: >> While doing "tar xvjf /mnt/gentoo/portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C >> /mnt/gentoo/usr" the machine stopped dead. This has happened twice. I >> fear that I do not have enough hard disk space, but I would hope for a >> gentler error message. Mike> i doubt disk space has anything to do with it ... if the machine Mike> bit it like this, it's because the kernel barfed either due to Mike> bad driver or bad hardware It smells like bad hardware to me... what you can do is drop down to the openprom prompt (ok) and do the following: ok setenv diag-switch? true ok setenv diag-level max ok setenv auto-boot? false ok reset And watch what happens on bootup. This will test the machine a bit more and let you know what's happening. Also, the Ultra 1s had a bad problem with the CPU fans, I ended up replacing dozens of them at a past job. Open the case and make sure the CPU fan is running. While oyu're in there, blow out any dust you can with some compressed air, just to make sure. If the CPU fan isn't spinning, then you know where there problem is. Also, if I could, I'd just give you some old Sparc 60s we're scapping here at work... :] John john(a)stoffel.org

April 10, 2007

Re: [Wlug] ULTRA1 Gentoo Install presents a problem

by Mike Frysinger

On Tuesday 10 April 2007, ken jones wrote: > While doing "tar xvjf /mnt/gentoo/portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C > /mnt/gentoo/usr" the machine stopped dead. This has happened twice. I > fear that I do not have enough hard disk space, but I would hope for a > gentler error message. i doubt disk space has anything to do with it ... if the machine bit it like this, it's because the kernel barfed either due to bad driver or bad hardware i'd try a few diff livecds and if those dont help, drop into the #gentoo-sparc channel on irc.freenode.net where all of the sparc guys can give you real inside pointers -mike

April 10, 2007

Re: [Wlug] DSL testing

by Keith Wright

> From: Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> > > After several years of near flawless working, > I am starting to have trouble with my DSL > connection. I think I solved the problem. Thanks to those on this list for helpful pointers. No truck was needed. I took a pair of dikes to some Neolithic telephone wiring in my basement. RJ31X must die! More details are here, if you want them: http://www.free-comp-shop.com/DSL.html -- Keith

April 10, 2007

ULTRA1 Gentoo Install presents a problem

by ken jones

Mike wrote: "I fear you have just only gotten through the easy part!!" Mike's words rang true this morning. While doing "tar xvjf /mnt/gentoo/portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr" the machine stopped dead. This has happened twice. I fear that I do not have enough hard disk space, but I would hope for a gentler error message. Here is Gentoo Install's last gasp while extracting the Portage snap shot. I was connected to the Gentoo box via ssh. ------------snip from tar output--------- portage/eclass/tla.eclass portage/eclass/perl-app.eclass portage/eclass/gtk-engines.eclass portage/eclass/perl-post.eclass portage/eclass/rpm.eclass portage/eclass/rox.eclass portage/eclass/xfree.eclass Read from remote host 192.168.1.110: No route to host Connection to 192.168.1.110 closed. [1]+ Done emacs /root/.ssh/known_hosts [root@kjones-fedora .ssh]# --------end snip---------- At this point all terminals on the machine do not respond. Is there a way that I can get back to this stage? If I power cycle I get back to the livecd prompt and all my INSTALL work is lost - I think. If [stop a] works I still must boot cdrom to get started again. Any ideas? Here is the hard disk/partition setup. They are not very big :'( -----------snip from fdisk results---------- livecd gentoo # fdisk /dev/sda Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sda (Sun disk label): 16 heads, 135 sectors, 3880 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2160 * 512 bytes Device Flag Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 0 463 500040 83 Linux native /dev/sda2 u 463 694 249480 82 Linux swap /dev/sda3 0 3880 4190400 5 Whole disk /dev/sda4 694 3880 3440880 83 Linux native Command (m for help): q livecd gentoo # fdisk /dev/sdb Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sdb (Sun disk label): 19 heads, 80 sectors, 2733 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1520 * 512 bytes Device Flag Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 0 658 500080 83 Linux native /dev/sdb2 u 658 2733 1577000 83 Linux native /dev/sdb3 0 2733 2077080 5 Whole disk Ken Jones

April 10, 2007