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Re: [Wlug] Any SQL-types out there? (more lab automation stuff)

by Michael Long

Stephen Daukas wrote: > There are a lot of things I'd rather use, but I have to stick with the > IT standards... > Most of my work has been in SQL Server shops where MS is the preferred technology. Having said that I would push for a Perl solution in this case because what you want to do does not lend itself to SQL easily. Perl will get the job done faster and cheaper. Not only that it is portable across platforms. You will have significantly less maintenance over the long term. -mike

July 25, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Any SQL-types out there? (more lab automation stuff)

by Stephen Daukas

There are a lot of things I'd rather use, but I have to stick with the IT standards... On 7/25/07, Michael Zarozinski <MichaelZ(a)aiguru.com> wrote: > > I think you'd be far better off using a scripting language such as perl, > it's far easier to manipulate text files with perl. > > Michael Z > > Stephen Daukas wrote: > > Good morning! > > > > In the continuing saga of automating various activities where I > > work, I have taken on processing data files. (Automating data upload > > is still somewhere in the air.)... > > > > This is rather simple in concept, but a bit less obvious in practice > > (aren't they all!): > > > > I would like to open up a CSV file and rearrange the columns according > > to a standardized order. Not every data file will have all of the > > standard columns (different probes collect different data), but column > > headers are standardized. So, I need to inspect each column header so > > that I can place it and its entire column of data into the > > proper position in the table, with empty columns inserted where needed > > to preserve the standard sequence of columns. In other words: > > > > A, D, C, G, H becomes A, [B], C, D, [E], [F], G, H > > where [ ] denote inserted empty columns > > > > There are literally hundreds of files of data in CSV format, and I > > intend to process each by itself, preserving the original, and > > creating a new "adjusted" file for the next step. (The next step > > would be to concatenate all files together for numeric processing.) > > Original files must be preserved (chain of custody requirements), so I > > am opening the file, selecting records using SQL, and am now ready to > > do the rearranging/writing to a new file... > > > > I didn't know if there is a "well known" SQL way of doing this (e.g., > > data manipulation statements of some sort), so I thought I'd see if > > any WLUGgers are also SQL-types. I have a few ideas for how to get > > this done, but they are "programmer-centric" algorithms, which tend to > > be different from "SQL-centric" algorithms... > > > > The reason for SQL is that I have to do this on a MS platform because > > that is the standard. But, if most of the real work is done in SQL, > > then I can easily move to another platform in the future and only have > > to change the "shell code". I am using VBscript as the "shell > > language" because it works with all MS apps and file system objects > > inclusive of CSV files. > > > > Thanks for any help!!! > > > > Best regards, > > Steve > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 25, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Any SQL-types out there? (more lab automation stuff)

by Michael Zarozinski

I think you'd be far better off using a scripting language such as perl, it's far easier to manipulate text files with perl. Michael Z Stephen Daukas wrote: > Good morning! > > In the continuing saga of automating various activities where I > work, I have taken on processing data files. (Automating data upload > is still somewhere in the air.)... > > This is rather simple in concept, but a bit less obvious in practice > (aren't they all!): > > I would like to open up a CSV file and rearrange the columns according > to a standardized order. Not every data file will have all of the > standard columns (different probes collect different data), but column > headers are standardized. So, I need to inspect each column header so > that I can place it and its entire column of data into the > proper position in the table, with empty columns inserted where needed > to preserve the standard sequence of columns. In other words: > > A, D, C, G, H becomes A, [B], C, D, [E], [F], G, H > where [ ] denote inserted empty columns > > There are literally hundreds of files of data in CSV format, and I > intend to process each by itself, preserving the original, and > creating a new "adjusted" file for the next step. (The next step > would be to concatenate all files together for numeric processing.) > Original files must be preserved (chain of custody requirements), so I > am opening the file, selecting records using SQL, and am now ready to > do the rearranging/writing to a new file... > > I didn't know if there is a "well known" SQL way of doing this (e.g., > data manipulation statements of some sort), so I thought I'd see if > any WLUGgers are also SQL-types. I have a few ideas for how to get > this done, but they are "programmer-centric" algorithms, which tend to > be different from "SQL-centric" algorithms... > > The reason for SQL is that I have to do this on a MS platform because > that is the standard. But, if most of the real work is done in SQL, > then I can easily move to another platform in the future and only have > to change the "shell code". I am using VBscript as the "shell > language" because it works with all MS apps and file system objects > inclusive of CSV files. > > Thanks for any help!!! > > Best regards, > Steve > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 25, 2007

Any SQL-types out there? (more lab automation stuff)

by Stephen Daukas

Good morning! In the continuing saga of automating various activities where I work, I have taken on processing data files. (Automating data upload is still somewhere in the air.)... This is rather simple in concept, but a bit less obvious in practice (aren't they all!): I would like to open up a CSV file and rearrange the columns according to a standardized order. Not every data file will have all of the standard columns (different probes collect different data), but column headers are standardized. So, I need to inspect each column header so that I can place it and its entire column of data into the proper position in the table, with empty columns inserted where needed to preserve the standard sequence of columns. In other words: A, D, C, G, H becomes A, [B], C, D, [E], [F], G, H where [ ] denote inserted empty columns There are literally hundreds of files of data in CSV format, and I intend to process each by itself, preserving the original, and creating a new "adjusted" file for the next step. (The next step would be to concatenate all files together for numeric processing.) Original files must be preserved (chain of custody requirements), so I am opening the file, selecting records using SQL, and am now ready to do the rearranging/writing to a new file... I didn't know if there is a "well known" SQL way of doing this (e.g., data manipulation statements of some sort), so I thought I'd see if any WLUGgers are also SQL-types. I have a few ideas for how to get this done, but they are "programmer-centric" algorithms, which tend to be different from "SQL-centric" algorithms... The reason for SQL is that I have to do this on a MS platform because that is the standard. But, if most of the real work is done in SQL, then I can easily move to another platform in the future and only have to change the "shell code". I am using VBscript as the "shell language" because it works with all MS apps and file system objects inclusive of CSV files. Thanks for any help!!! Best regards, Steve

July 25, 2007

Re: [Wlug] WLUG BBQ !!!

by Gregory Avedissian

I'd like to go to the BBQ, but I need help with transportation. Could someone give me a ride? I live in Worcester. Thanks, Greg Andy Stewart wrote: > > HI everybody, > > The WLUG BBQ is coming up fast: > > Date: Thursday, July 26th, 2007 > > Time: 6:00 PM > > Place: Eric Martin's house > > Address: 33 Lansing Avenue, Worcester, MA 01605 > This is 2.5 miles from WPI. > Look for the penguin! > > WLUG will supply burgers, dogs, munchies, soda, and the like. Thanks, > Eric, for hosting the BBQ this year! > > See ya there! > > Andy > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 25, 2007

Thanks!

by Stephen Daukas

Hi all! Thanks for all of the posts on "project management software"! They were helpful! Regards, Steve

July 25, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Hard drive configuration

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 05:36:16PM -0400, Michael Long wrote: > /dev/sdb3 / reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 1 > /dev/sdb1 /boot reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 2 > /dev/sda1 /raid reiserfs defaults 1 2 > /dev/sdb2 swap swap pri=42 0 0 > > I downloaded OpenSuSE 10.2 and attempted to upgrade the system. When > running either an upgrade or new install it tells me that /dev/sda3 is > defined as /dev/sdb3 in fstab. > > Bottom line when I install opensuse 10.2 it sees my raid as sdb and the > system is currently setup to have it as sda. I do not understand why my > current configuration is the opposite of what a new install is finding. > Where do I go from here? The order sda sdb sdc etc. depends on the order the SCSI buses were probed in. Different kernels may find hardware in a different order, or modules may load in a different order causing this. In fact, in Fedora 7+, they stopped using the old IDE driver and switched to the new ATA driver using libata. Now all /dev/hdX devices appear as /dev/sdX. The solution is to avoid using device names directly, and instead use filesystem labels, uuids, and/or LVM. e.g. this will label your devices (caveat: I haven't used reiserfs or SuSE before so you'll probably want to google this and read more about it): reiserfstune -l raid /dev/sda1 reiserfstune -l boot /dev/sdb1 reiserfstune -l root /dev/sdb3 (For Ext2/Ext3, you'd use e.g. "e2label /dev/sda1 raid") swapoff /dev/sdb2 mkswap -L swap /dev/sdb2 swapon -L swap Then you change your /etc/fstab like this: LABEL=root / reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 1 LABEL=boot /boot reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 2 LABEL=raid /raid reiserfs defaults 1 2 LABEL=swap swap swap pri=42 0 0 GRUB/Lilo will have to be dealt with separately. For example, my grub.conf (menu.lst) has this in it: title Fedora (2.6.21-1.3194.fc7) root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7 ro root=/dev/VGSystem/LVRoot rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7.img but I believe you can say "root=LABEL=root" instead. UUID's work similarly to labels.

July 25, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Hard drive configuration

by Robert L Krawitz

Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:36:16 -0400 From: Michael Long <mlong(a)datalong.com> I hope someone can point me in the right direction. I have a SuSE 9.3 system that was fully configured when I bought it. When looking at fstab the drives are configured as follows: /dev/sdb3 / reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 1 /dev/sdb1 /boot reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 2 /dev/sda1 /raid reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/sdb2 swap swap pri=42 0 0 I downloaded OpenSuSE 10.2 and attempted to upgrade the system. When running either an upgrade or new install it tells me that /dev/sda3 is defined as /dev/sdb3 in fstab. Bottom line when I install opensuse 10.2 it sees my raid as sdb and the system is currently setup to have it as sda. I do not understand why my current configuration is the opposite of what a new install is finding. Where do I go from here? Somewhere between 10.0 and 10.2 they changed the drive layout, so this may be correct.

July 25, 2007

Evolution plugin for MS Exchange

by chuck

Hi All, I'm running kubuntu feisty with evolution 2.10.1. I'm trying to use the exchange plugin to connect to the MS 2003 Exchange Server at work. I have all the info about the implementation of Exchange from the IT folks, but I just can't make the plugin work. When I enter in my password, I get "Can not authenticate. (password incorrect?)" error. For the "Identity" - Username is my name (not surprising...) - Email address is my fully qualified email address. For the "Receiving email" - Server type is Microsoft exchange - Username is my domainname\username (Note: I've tried it without the domainname, still no joy). - OWA URL is the webmail URL (this has been confirmed by the IT folks) - Authenticate - I enter my password - seems to be ok. - Authentication Type - I've tried both secure and plaintext For "Receiving options" - Global Address List/Active directory settings - There's no entry I've looked at the Ubuntu launchpad website and there seems to be a few issues with the plugin. When evolution starts, it tries to search for mail folders, but finds nothing. I can't even terminate the process. I have to find out what pid number it is and terminate it with the 'kill <pid>' command. Has anyone managed to get this working? Is there some "magic" tweaking that I need to do? TIA, -Chuck

July 24, 2007

Hard drive configuration

by Michael Long

I hope someone can point me in the right direction. I have a SuSE 9.3 system that was fully configured when I bought it. When looking at fstab the drives are configured as follows: /dev/sdb3 / reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 1 /dev/sdb1 /boot reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 2 /dev/sda1 /raid reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/sdb2 swap swap pri=42 0 0 I downloaded OpenSuSE 10.2 and attempted to upgrade the system. When running either an upgrade or new install it tells me that /dev/sda3 is defined as /dev/sdb3 in fstab. Bottom line when I install opensuse 10.2 it sees my raid as sdb and the system is currently setup to have it as sda. I do not understand why my current configuration is the opposite of what a new install is finding. Where do I go from here?

July 24, 2007

Re: [Wlug] WLUG BBQ !!!

by Eric Martin

Either works just fine. I'm trying to move stuff to eric.joshua.martin, but it takes time. On 7/22/07, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: > > > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > > > > Please RSVP to Eric Martin so he'll know how much food to buy. > > This is, no doubt, obvious, but for the record let's stipulate that > Eric Martin's email address is: freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com > (Unless it is: eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com) > > -- Keith > > PS: It took me a while, but I did get around to > signing the public keys given to me a few months > ago and uploading them to http://pgp.mit.edu. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 24, 2007

Re: [Wlug] WLUG BBQ !!!

by Keith Wright

> From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > > Please RSVP to Eric Martin so he'll know how much food to buy. This is, no doubt, obvious, but for the record let's stipulate that Eric Martin's email address is: freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com (Unless it is: eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com) -- Keith PS: It took me a while, but I did get around to signing the public keys given to me a few months ago and uploading them to http://pgp.mit.edu.

July 22, 2007

Re: [Wlug] WLUG BBQ !!!

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 James P. Gray wrote: > I have no idea how many people might come. Maybe 30? Is someone taking > RSVPs? If your main goal is to advance your knowledge in Linux you may > find it more worth your while to attend a regular meeting then the BBQ. > During regular meetings we cover specific topics or have free ranging > discussions. My understanding is that the BBQ is more of a social event > for the group. Someone correct me if I am wrong. Hi gang, The BBQ is a social event where traditionally 15-20 people have attended. This is not the normal meeting setting - the BBQ is in lieu of a meeting. Please RSVP to Eric Martin so he'll know how much food to buy. Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFGounrHl0iXDssISsRAvoPAJ9g595wjqnVpTXMwJWa3xnyMSEGVACVFwAT Mj7ZPnMKf4fuvnaHedA0lg== =It1k -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

July 22, 2007

Re: [Wlug] WLUG BBQ !!!

by James P. Gray

I have no idea how many people might come. Maybe 30? Is someone taking RSVPs? If your main goal is to advance your knowledge in Linux you may find it more worth your while to attend a regular meeting then the BBQ. During regular meetings we cover specific topics or have free ranging discussions. My understanding is that the BBQ is more of a social event for the group. Someone correct me if I am wrong. kstratton(a)fastmail.us wrote: > I recently joined the mailing list to get an idea of how active this > group is. Perhaps somebody can provide an approximate number of > expected participants for this meeting? If I go (I am thinking about > it...), I would have to take a 1/2 day off from work and drive from > Connecticut. I am looking for an active group that provides an > environment to accelerate my learning with Linux to hopefully reach a > point of learning where it could be enjoyable to contribute back to some > open source project or another. > > I am running Gentoo, so I am not a COMPLETE newbe. > >

July 22, 2007

Re: [Wlug] WLUG BBQ !!!

by kstratton＠fastmail.us

I recently joined the mailing list to get an idea of how active this group is. Perhaps somebody can provide an approximate number of expected participants for this meeting? If I go (I am thinking about it...), I would have to take a 1/2 day off from work and drive from Connecticut. I am looking for an active group that provides an environment to accelerate my learning with Linux to hopefully reach a point of learning where it could be enjoyable to contribute back to some open source project or another. I am running Gentoo, so I am not a COMPLETE newbe. On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:37:56 -0400, "Andy Stewart" <andystewart(a)comcast.net> said: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > HI everybody, > > The WLUG BBQ is coming up fast: > > Date: Thursday, July 26th, 2007 > > Time: 6:00 PM > > Place: Eric Martin's house > > Address: 33 Lansing Avenue, Worcester, MA 01605 > This is 2.5 miles from WPI. > Look for the penguin! > > WLUG will supply burgers, dogs, munchies, soda, and the like. Thanks, > Eric, for hosting the BBQ this year! > > See ya there! > > Andy > > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) > Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) > Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGohpEHl0iXDssISsRAiXvAJ4qkWSBpHaGD/MTD9nWU5+/AW2wuwCeOQ5t > 4K5LyUHbm0MeiNc/QX5PnG4= > =JeTk > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- kstratton(a)fastmail.us

July 22, 2007

WLUG BBQ !!!

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, The WLUG BBQ is coming up fast: Date: Thursday, July 26th, 2007 Time: 6:00 PM Place: Eric Martin's house Address: 33 Lansing Avenue, Worcester, MA 01605 This is 2.5 miles from WPI. Look for the penguin! WLUG will supply burgers, dogs, munchies, soda, and the like. Thanks, Eric, for hosting the BBQ this year! See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGohpEHl0iXDssISsRAiXvAJ4qkWSBpHaGD/MTD9nWU5+/AW2wuwCeOQ5t 4K5LyUHbm0MeiNc/QX5PnG4= =JeTk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

July 21, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Democracy Player - Miro

by Eric Stein

As soon as I can emerge it (which, according to their site, will be pretty soon), I'm installing it. Yeah, I could go download it, but I like doing things via portage, it's easier to keep track of. Joe Riopel wrote: > Hi, > > I am not sure how many of your are/were familiar with the Democracy > media player, but they have recently changed the name to Miro > (http://www.getmiro.com/) > > The reason I am posting it here is that some of the core people > working on that project are from right here in glorious Worcester. > > Joe

July 18, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Democracy Player - Miro

by Klein, Richard

> From: Joe Riopel > > Hi, > > I am not sure how many of your are/were familiar with the > Democracy media player, but they have recently changed the > name to Miro (http://www.getmiro.com/) > > The reason I am posting it here is that some of the core > people working on that project are from right here in > glorious Worcester. That's cool! I installed Democracy on my Mac, but with iTunes pre-installed, I haven't actually gotten around to using Democracy/Miro more than once or twice. -- Rich

July 18, 2007

Democracy Player - Miro

by Joe Riopel

Hi, I am not sure how many of your are/were familiar with the Democracy media player, but they have recently changed the name to Miro (http://www.getmiro.com/) The reason I am posting it here is that some of the core people working on that project are from right here in glorious Worcester. Joe

July 18, 2007

Re: [Wlug] greetings

by Frank Sweetser

rwaka jude wrote: > Hello to you all am Rwaka Jude a University student at kigali institute > of science and technology (KIST) in central Africa. i have had interest > in joining fellow student students in your linux users group due to the > fact that am aslo interested and writting my dissertation in a linux > environment so i thought of joing groups like yours to see if we can > exchange ideas and opinions. > My project is: SETTING UP A WEB BASED EMAIL SYSTEM RUNNING ON A LINUX > SERVER USING SQUIRREL MAIL; > Am hoping to hear from you if you could love to entertain students in > your group. otherwise wish all the best of luck and looking forward to > hearing from your committee. Hi Rwaka, while we're primarily based out of Worcester, MA in the US, you're certainly welcome to participate on the mailing lists. When you're ready with more specific questions and topics, just send them out and someone will probably respond! -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

July 12, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux?

by Eric Martin

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have an ipod and use citrix on multiple linux computers. The easiest way to get the ICA client is to go to her NFUSE page (where she logs in) and it will have a link. If not, http://www.citrix.com/English/SS/downloads/details.asp?dID=2755&downloadID=…. I can't quite get it to work in firefox, so I installed the client into my home directory, and have wfica open the files. As for ipods, there are many programs (I've tried out at least 5). It depends on what you want. If she just uses stuff downloaded from iTunes then you are out of luck from what I can tell. I too hate DRM so I use straight mp3s that I ripped myself. Amarok has a plugin that comes with it for ipods, I hear banshee works too. GtkPod is just for ipods (I haven't used it in a few years). I once tried to get iTunes to work under WINE but I haven't gotten that working yet. As for printing, it all depends on what printer you have. Next time I need a printer I'm consulting the foomatic-db first, as my wife always wants printers that aren't supported under linux. I use all of this stuff under Gentoo and Ubuntu, and find it very easy under both. If you need a hand with anything, just let me know. Also as a call to a later post, I would have to agree with NOT dual-booting. First she won't use GNU/Linux. Secondly, you'll have to deal with Windows headaches AND migrating her over to GNU/Linux. I'd say make the jump after you research the ipod and the printer. Just my $0.02 Eric Mike Perry wrote: > Hi all, > > I visited my parents yesterday and yet again my mother's computer is filled > with spyware. Everytime I go there it is slower and slower and odd things > keep happening (like icons disappearing ... I've witnessed this myself). > > I've been considering trying to get her onto Kubuntu, but I have a few valid > concerns. I'm curious if anyone has any experience with the following under > Linux (any flavor): > > * Citrix connectivity -- She currently, and very seldom, uses an ActiveX > control in IE to connect to her work. Are there alternatives besides using IE > and Wine or running a VM? > > * iPod which is currently registered with her Windows box. I'm not too > familiar with this, because my mp3 is not an iPod. > > * Printing - She currently has a very nice Canon i960 which can print photos. > I less concerned about drivers and more about functionality. Her current > Windows based software can print wallets, 8x10s, etc very easily. I wouldn't > want her to lose that ability. > > I know some of these answers might be a Google away, but I'm curious on your > experiences with this and possibility any other gothcya's that I am not > thinking about. > > If I could overcome these hurdles I think she would actually have a much > pleasant experience with her home pc. I've slowly been getting her to adopt > open source software, but this would be a big jump. I also think it would be > much easier for me help remotely too. > > Cheers, > Mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGlMmbaiVxdKlBO58RAurFAJ41G3aGIFzZwkepbKSQc/EjDSsgqgCgh3w6 hzx3DmJa80ME5BIUPPkyvg4= =iku4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

July 11, 2007

greetings

by rwaka jude

Hello to you all am Rwaka Jude a University student at kigali institute of science and technology (KIST) in central Africa. i have had interest in joining fellow student students in your linux users group due to the fact that am aslo interested and writting my dissertation in a linux environment so i thought of joing groups like yours to see if we can exchange ideas and opinions. My project is: SETTING UP A WEB BASED EMAIL SYSTEM RUNNING ON A LINUX SERVER USING SQUIRREL MAIL; Am hoping to hear from you if you could love to entertain students in your group. otherwise wish all the best of luck and looking forward to hearing from your committee. Regards Jude Rwaka --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.

July 10, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux?

by Mike Leo

tsclient is a front end to rdesktop. Also, there is an official Citrix client for linux. you could also give her a liveCD and see how many objections you get. I gave my dad linux 3 or 4 years ago now and he's never looked back. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike Perry <mwp(a)sdf.lonestar.org> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2007 2:55:42 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux? I think tsclient is just a front end to: http://bin-false.org/?p=13 That may be an option depending on how her work has Citrix configured. Rdesktop just makes a reference to ICA. I think the harddrive idea is actually pretty good (if I had a spare drive :) At least this way I could test these scenarios. I really don't have much experience with iPods though. I know they have some kind of DRM -- I am pretty certain I can get it working with Amarok, but what I am not clear on is how it associates the music to account. Even if we rebuilt her Windows computer it may pose a DRM problem. I hate DRM. Anyone have any insight? On another note... I am pretty confident that modern Linux distro's can hold up a novice computer user like my mother. Primarily she uses her computer for casual web surfing and email. She is already using Firefox and Thunderbird -- so if I show her the icons she will know what to do. ~Mike > On Thursday 05 July 2007 1:43:44 pm Andre Lehovich wrote: > > --- Mike Perry <mwp(a)sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > > > * Citrix connectivity -- She currently, and very seldom, uses an > > > ActiveX control in IE to connect to her work. Are there alternatives > > > besides using IE and Wine or running a VM? > > > > $ apt-cache search citrix > > tsclient - front-end for viewing of remote desktops in GNOME > > rdesktop - RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server > > > > The web equivalent: > > http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=citrix > > > > VNC also works for connecting between different operating systems. > > > > --Andre > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > >__ _________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 5, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux?

by Mike Perry

I think tsclient is just a front end to: http://bin-false.org/?p=13 That may be an option depending on how her work has Citrix configured. Rdesktop just makes a reference to ICA. I think the harddrive idea is actually pretty good (if I had a spare drive :) At least this way I could test these scenarios. I really don't have much experience with iPods though. I know they have some kind of DRM -- I am pretty certain I can get it working with Amarok, but what I am not clear on is how it associates the music to account. Even if we rebuilt her Windows computer it may pose a DRM problem. I hate DRM. Anyone have any insight? On another note... I am pretty confident that modern Linux distro's can hold up a novice computer user like my mother. Primarily she uses her computer for casual web surfing and email. She is already using Firefox and Thunderbird -- so if I show her the icons she will know what to do. ~Mike > On Thursday 05 July 2007 1:43:44 pm Andre Lehovich wrote: > > --- Mike Perry <mwp(a)sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > > > * Citrix connectivity -- She currently, and very seldom, uses an > > > ActiveX control in IE to connect to her work. Are there alternatives > > > besides using IE and Wine or running a VM? > > > > $ apt-cache search citrix > > tsclient - front-end for viewing of remote desktops in GNOME > > rdesktop - RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server > > > > The web equivalent: > > http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=citrix > > > > VNC also works for connecting between different operating systems. > > > > --Andre > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > >__ _________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 5, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux?IO

by Mike Perry

Good suggestion, but I don't think my mother would understand the concept of dual-booting. She would probably just end up booting into Widnows and not switching -- or I would get phone calls all day saying "I am in Linux again I don't know how I got here". ~Mike > > On Thursday 05 July 2007 12:37:23 pm Jamie Guinan wrote: <snip> > > > > > > This sounds like a good time to upgrade her hard drive. Put a new, > > > larger drive in her computer and install Kubuntu onto that. Try > > > everything out, and if something doesn't work, put the old drive back > > > in until you can figure out a solution. > > > > Or put in the 2nd hard drive and leave the 1st one in there, and set > > it up to dual-boot. She can still boot Windows to do her Citrix > > stuff, and she can use Linux for web surfing (no spyware), and you can > > try migrating iPod/printing/etc. over time. > > > > -Jamie > > > > > I'd answer your specific questions if I knew the answers. > > > > > > -- > > > Rich > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 5, 2007