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Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by Frank Sweetser

John Stoffel wrote: > Frank> John Stoffel wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Anyone on here using Charter Telephone VOIP service? I've currently >>> got Verizon, but the wife hates it because our phone lines get flaky >>> all the time, esp when it rains. > > Frank> I use Charter VoIP server at home. Basically, unless you > Frank> looked at where the wires ran or peeked at the bill, you'd > Frank> never know that it wasn't a regular phone. > > Cool. Do you have also have Charter's high speed internet? I've got > that currently and I run m0n0wall (http://m0n0.ch) as my firewall. Yup - I got the whole triple play bundle, with a fedora 7 box as firewall. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Sept. 6, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by Tal Cohen

I have Vonage and have been using them for a few years no. No problems at all running over a Verizon DSL connection. Tal -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Waite Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:40 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Cc: Brett Russ Subject: Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston? On Wednesday 05 September 2007, Brett Russ wrote: > On 9/5/07, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > So I'm thinking to save money and combine all my stuff onto Charter. > > I've already got High Speed internet and regular old cable. Not wild > > about Digital Cable since I'm happy with Tivo and I don't want yet > > another set top box to have to deal with... > > I know nothing about Charter's VoIP because I use VoicePulse VoIP and > highly recommend it. Half the price of charter for the plan I use > ($15/mo) and I'm very happy especially with their service department. > If you have any problems you'll talk to and hear back from intelligent > service people who call and/or email you to discuss the issue. > > -BR > http://www.voicepulse.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug For VIOP alternatives check out GalaxyVoice. http://galaxyvoice.com For a MA phone number there is no montly fee and 60 mins free. The oer minute costs are free after that. Of course the features are all there too 3 way/call wait/caller ID/voicemail/hunt group/find me followme/etc Vmail is nice as you can setup an email with wav attachment I use it and am pretty happy. Thanks Brian _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 6, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by John Stoffel

Frank> John Stoffel wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Anyone on here using Charter Telephone VOIP service? I've currently >> got Verizon, but the wife hates it because our phone lines get flaky >> all the time, esp when it rains. Frank> I use Charter VoIP server at home. Basically, unless you Frank> looked at where the wires ran or peeked at the bill, you'd Frank> never know that it wasn't a regular phone. Cool. Do you have also have Charter's high speed internet? I've got that currently and I run m0n0wall (http://m0n0.ch) as my firewall. So I've been surfing voip.com, vonage.com, voicepulse.com and other sites looking for any issues I need to think about. Mostly, as long at the phone doesn't annoy my wife, she won't care about it. :] Frank> There is one caveat with any VoIP service, which is that you Frank> need local battery backup for the equipment in your house. The Frank> VoIP box Charter provides includes a battery with (IIRC) about Frank> 8 hours standby or 3 hours talk time, but it's not a bad idea Frank> to back that up with a larger UPS. I've got a UPS at home and I guess I could run an extension cord from where the phone stuff would be to that location. Wouldn't be a problem... Thanks for the suggestion. John

Sept. 6, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by Brian Waite

On Wednesday 05 September 2007, Brett Russ wrote: > On 9/5/07, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > So I'm thinking to save money and combine all my stuff onto Charter. > > I've already got High Speed internet and regular old cable. Not wild > > about Digital Cable since I'm happy with Tivo and I don't want yet > > another set top box to have to deal with... > > I know nothing about Charter's VoIP because I use VoicePulse VoIP and > highly recommend it. Half the price of charter for the plan I use > ($15/mo) and I'm very happy especially with their service department. > If you have any problems you'll talk to and hear back from intelligent > service people who call and/or email you to discuss the issue. > > -BR > http://www.voicepulse.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug For VIOP alternatives check out GalaxyVoice. http://galaxyvoice.com For a MA phone number there is no montly fee and 60 mins free. The oer minute costs are free after that. Of course the features are all there too 3 way/call wait/caller ID/voicemail/hunt group/find me followme/etc Vmail is nice as you can setup an email with wav attachment I use it and am pretty happy. Thanks Brian

Sept. 6, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by Brett Russ

On 9/6/07, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > Is Charter your internet provider? And of course, I don't want to > have happento me what happened to the people who used SunRocket Voip. > > Oh well... VoicePulse doesn't happen to be offered in Boylston yet. Charter provides my internet service. VoicePulse is available to anyone with broadband, what you may lack is availability of a local phone number. However, I plugged in 508-869-xxxx (Boylston) and they do offer local numbers in that exchange. That being said, I requested a Worcester exchange number because that makes it a local call for many more people to call me. I don't worry about bankruptcy, if anything happens (and there is no sign that it would) local number portability means I should be able to move to any other provider easily. -BR

Sept. 6, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by Frank Sweetser

John Stoffel wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone on here using Charter Telephone VOIP service? I've currently > got Verizon, but the wife hates it because our phone lines get flaky > all the time, esp when it rains. I use Charter VoIP server at home. Basically, unless you looked at where the wires ran or peeked at the bill, you'd never know that it wasn't a regular phone. There is one caveat with any VoIP service, which is that you need local battery backup for the equipment in your house. The VoIP box Charter provides includes a battery with (IIRC) about 8 hours standby or 3 hours talk time, but it's not a bad idea to back that up with a larger UPS. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Sept. 6, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by John Stoffel

Brett> On 9/5/07, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: >> So I'm thinking to save money and combine all my stuff onto Charter. >> I've already got High Speed internet and regular old cable. Not wild >> about Digital Cable since I'm happy with Tivo and I don't want yet >> another set top box to have to deal with... Brett> I know nothing about Charter's VoIP because I use VoicePulse Brett> VoIP and highly recommend it. Half the price of charter for Brett> the plan I use ($15/mo) and I'm very happy especially with Brett> their service department. If you have any problems you'll talk Brett> to and hear back from intelligent service people who call Brett> and/or email you to discuss the issue. Is Charter your internet provider? And of course, I don't want to have happento me what happened to the people who used SunRocket Voip. Oh well... VoicePulse doesn't happen to be offered in Boylston yet. John

Sept. 6, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Brains" == Brains <fmoody-ug-wlug(a)moodman.org> writes: Brains> John Stoffel wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Anyone on here using Charter Telephone VOIP service? I've currently >> got Verizon, but the wife hates it because our phone lines get flaky >> all the time, esp when it rains. >> >> So I'm thinking to save money and combine all my stuff onto Charter. >> I've already got High Speed internet and regular old cable. Not wild >> about Digital Cable since I'm happy with Tivo and I don't want yet >> another set top box to have to deal with... >> >> So, any horror stories about Charter Phone VOIP quality and service? >> >> Thanks, >> John Brains> I can't speak to the VOIP side of things, but I will Brains> say that I'm running my Series 1 Tivo with comcast digital Brains> cable. The thing that makes it mostly bearable is that I can Brains> use the data port instead of the IR blaster. Might see if Brains> that is an option for you if you end up going the digital Brains> cable route. I've got a series 2 box, with lifetime, so I'm really loathe to get rid of it until it goes up in flames. And since I *really* like the TiVo remote, I don't want to have to teach myself, wife and kid how to use yet another friggin TV doohickey. So to get this straight, you've got your TiVo plugged into the Charter Settop box and you can browse all the channels via the TiVo remote? Duh... I just re-read your reply and I see that you use comcast, not Charter. Sigh... now to find out what Charter uses. More googling I fear!

Sept. 6, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by Brett Russ

On 9/5/07, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > So I'm thinking to save money and combine all my stuff onto Charter. > I've already got High Speed internet and regular old cable. Not wild > about Digital Cable since I'm happy with Tivo and I don't want yet > another set top box to have to deal with... I know nothing about Charter's VoIP because I use VoicePulse VoIP and highly recommend it. Half the price of charter for the plan I use ($15/mo) and I'm very happy especially with their service department. If you have any problems you'll talk to and hear back from intelligent service people who call and/or email you to discuss the issue. -BR http://www.voicepulse.com/

Sept. 6, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by Brains

John Stoffel wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone on here using Charter Telephone VOIP service? I've currently > got Verizon, but the wife hates it because our phone lines get flaky > all the time, esp when it rains. > > So I'm thinking to save money and combine all my stuff onto Charter. > I've already got High Speed internet and regular old cable. Not wild > about Digital Cable since I'm happy with Tivo and I don't want yet > another set top box to have to deal with... > > So, any horror stories about Charter Phone VOIP quality and service? > > Thanks, > John I can't speak to the VOIP side of things, but I will say that I'm running my Series 1 Tivo with comcast digital cable. The thing that makes it mostly bearable is that I can use the data port instead of the IR blaster. Might see if that is an option for you if you end up going the digital cable route. Frank

Sept. 5, 2007

Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by John Stoffel

Hi, Anyone on here using Charter Telephone VOIP service? I've currently got Verizon, but the wife hates it because our phone lines get flaky all the time, esp when it rains. So I'm thinking to save money and combine all my stuff onto Charter. I've already got High Speed internet and regular old cable. Not wild about Digital Cable since I'm happy with Tivo and I don't want yet another set top box to have to deal with... So, any horror stories about Charter Phone VOIP quality and service? Thanks, John

Sept. 5, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Possible cheap linux network device

by Adam Keck

Hello, {Accidently sent early :-P} I have a WRT54GL, on which I am planning to play with some of the free firmware distributions, but the WRTSL54GS looks more interesting. It has a faster processor, more RAM and, a USB 2.0 port. Connected to a dual drive enclosure, it could make a conveniently small file-server. Has anyone played with the WRTSL54GS? -Adam On 8/27/07, Aaron Haviland <orion(a)parsed.net> wrote: > kstratton(a)fastmail.us wrote, on Aug 27, 2007 at 12:20 EDT: > > This may be old news, but a friend of mine has upgraded his linksys > > router. This could be considered to be a "cheap computer" depending on > > what is is used for: > > > > If you wish you can check out: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G > > Indeed! I've been using mine with DD-WRT > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT) > for a couple years now! Works amazingly. > > At the time, I wasn't impressed with OpenWRT, but DD-WRT seems to have a > strange devel schedule, and I don't like their website. Might be time to > try OpenWRT again... > > -- > Aaron Haviland > 34 Wayne Ave, Dudley, MA home: [508] 943 - 7974 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFG01u9NL5skATtxLERAo5rAKDn+9+IdL+NotcgkfrRhXn1X3EsZQCeLveB > w8p+UCjWLUnOH50tBOFq7zQ= > =6xv6 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 28, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Possible cheap linux network device

by Adam Keck

Hello, On 8/27/07, Aaron Haviland <orion(a)parsed.net> wrote: > > kstratton(a)fastmail.us wrote, on Aug 27, 2007 at 12:20 EDT: > > This may be old news, but a friend of mine has upgraded his linksys > > router. This could be considered to be a "cheap computer" depending on > > what is is used for: > > > > If you wish you can check out: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G > > Indeed! I've been using mine with DD-WRT > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT) > for a couple years now! Works amazingly. > > At the time, I wasn't impressed with OpenWRT, but DD-WRT seems to have a > strange devel schedule, and I don't like their website. Might be time to > try OpenWRT again... > > -- > Aaron Haviland > 34 Wayne Ave, Dudley, MA home: [508] 943 - 7974 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFG01u9NL5skATtxLERAo5rAKDn+9+IdL+NotcgkfrRhXn1X3EsZQCeLveB > w8p+UCjWLUnOH50tBOFq7zQ= > =6xv6 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 28, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Possible cheap linux network device

by Aaron Haviland

kstratton(a)fastmail.us wrote, on Aug 27, 2007 at 12:20 EDT: > This may be old news, but a friend of mine has upgraded his linksys > router. This could be considered to be a "cheap computer" depending on > what is is used for: > > If you wish you can check out: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G Indeed! I've been using mine with DD-WRT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT) for a couple years now! Works amazingly. At the time, I wasn't impressed with OpenWRT, but DD-WRT seems to have a strange devel schedule, and I don't like their website. Might be time to try OpenWRT again... -- Aaron Haviland 34 Wayne Ave, Dudley, MA home: [508] 943 - 7974

Aug. 27, 2007

Possible cheap linux network device

by kstratton＠fastmail.us

This may be old news, but a friend of mine has upgraded his linksys router. This could be considered to be a "cheap computer" depending on what is is used for: If you wish you can check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G -- kstratton(a)fastmail.us

Aug. 27, 2007

Re: [Wlug] comparison of virtualization technologies

by Adam Keck

Hello All, I recently tried both the free VMWare GSX server and the quasi-free virtualbox with gui. I ended with GSX for two reasons. o Virtualbox kernel panics under the Debian FAI install kernel after about 10 minutes of package installs. Not sure why it dies, but since I want to use VMs to test new installations to keep machines from breeding in my office, this was a show-stopper for me. o Setting up bridged networking and the tap interfaces to share the host connection happens outside the virtual application. Setting them up I found to be a pain, even though I eventually got it working. The GSX install seems to do this for you which saved a lot of time. -Adam Mike Leo wrote: > > I wasn't at the meeting, but anytime virtualization I have to mention > > virtualbox.com....works better than VMWare Workstation plus its free! > > Correction: > http://www.virtualbox.org/ > > >

Aug. 20, 2007

Sysstat -> Graph?

by Adam Keck

Hello All, What are your favorite sysstat graphing tools? I run sysstat on almost everything, but also have orca for Linux collecting data from several servers for graphing. I am wondering if I can make do with only sysstat. -Adam

Aug. 20, 2007

Re: [Wlug] comparison of virtualization technologies

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike Leo wrote: > I wasn't at the meeting, but anytime virtualization I have to mention > virtualbox.com....works better than VMWare Workstation plus its free! Correction: http://www.virtualbox.org/ - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGxmP7Hl0iXDssISsRAgViAJ9XSD70wlDWrkkUp9h+aog9WR4oswCdGC/Y tIplxPATIYI8W/DsTl/Z/8Y= =k54L -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 18, 2007

Re: [Wlug] comparison of virtualization technologies

by Mike Leo

I wasn't at the meeting, but anytime virtualization I have to mention virtualbox.com....works better than VMWare Workstation plus its free! ----- Original Message ---- From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> To: wlug(a)wlug.org Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:54:43 PM Subject: [Wlug] comparison of virtualization technologies Here are the links to the virtualization technology comparison we talked about at the meeting: http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/TechComparison http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/HypervisorVsLinuxBased _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 18, 2007

comparison of virtualization technologies

by Chuck Anderson

Here are the links to the virtualization technology comparison we talked about at the meeting: http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/TechComparison http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/HypervisorVsLinuxBased

Aug. 17, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Awesome article about Windows v. Linux in the marketplace

by Desdinova

On 8/16/07, Eric Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I found this on either digg or slashdot. It's a really good article and I > agree with most of it. People won't even consider GNU/Linux while they can > still get a copy of XP for free from a buddy. I think that's kind of silly, they won't consider Linux because it doesn't run *foo*. Not because they can get windows for "free." The people who would actually want a pirated copy of windows, system builders, nerds, *us*, are well-equipped to make that leap or not. The people that FOSS/Linux folks keep pitching too, everyone else, already has a legit copy installed on their new prebuilt, or goes and buys one at Staples. The community as a whole really needs to stop trying to degrade every other choice and extol the virtues of what they've got. You attract more bees with honey. Smear tactics are for politicians. I know some (many?) FOSS advocates are politically motivated but, trust me, that aforementioned everyone else doesn't care. Maybe they should, maybe they shouldn't, but they certainly don't now. > That's why I tell people that > I won't support their pirating of software; and pitch FOSS at every turn to > them. http://tlug.jp/articles/Windows_Is_Free Give it a > read, it might spur some good conversations tonight. I agree with your stance on piracy but I'd submit that that audience has already made their choice. I suppose I shouldn't really comment because I'm not a politico; I have no larger cause nor ill-will for windows. I use the tool that works for the job at hand. On the other hand, maybe that brings a little subjectivism to the evangelicals. ;) Wish I could've made tonight's meeting. Take care, James

Aug. 17, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Awesome article about Windows v. Linux in the marketplace

by Stephen Daukas

Good article, but it misses the one issue that keeps me with a windows machine, as well as my wife... Productivity Software - as in Outlook, Excel, Access, and to a lesser extent, PowerPoint and Word. Sure, I have heard of OpenOffice, I even use it from time to time, but guess what - it isn't 100% in all cases. For example, certain PowerPoint features like custom animation effects, embedded MS objects, etc, don't always work, or don't always work as expected. And, if you need to work with some Excel-based app that has screwy macros and such, well, it may or may not work. By the way, this holds true for MS apps on Macintosh as well. But before you offer the typical advice of: "you can get the same result if you do it this way", try explaining that to someone who already knows how to use what is already on the PC and who only cares about having a successful presentation at a public hearing where the audience is already unhappy to be in attendance in the first place. One misstep and you are screwed! Yes, you guessed it - the FUD factor. Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. And yes, if you already have M$, and you already know how to use the bundled tools that often come with it (because M$ is bundled with the hardware), then why would you go looking for something that takes effort to do what you already know how to do? Oh and yes, I think having to decide "what Linux" is just frosting on the Linux cake! I know lots 'o folks who have heard about Linux and are interested in it, and that it is free. As soon as the begin to realize that they may have to understand what video card they have, or that they may have to tweak their favorite MS Access application to get it t work with XXX, well, they have already made the decision to not change. Most people think of a PC as a tool only. Sigh. Steve On 8/16/07, Eric Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I found this on either digg or slashdot. It's a really good article and I > agree with most of it. People won't even consider GNU/Linux while they can > still get a copy of XP for free from a buddy. That's why I tell people that > I won't support their pirating of software; and pitch FOSS at every turn to > them. http://tlug.jp/articles/Windows_Is_Free Give it a read, it might > spur some good conversations tonight. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Stephen C. Daukas Engineer, Geoscientist, Environmental Analyst ________________________________________________ - Please, before printing, think about the environment -

Aug. 16, 2007

Awesome article about Windows v. Linux in the marketplace

by Eric Martin

I found this on either digg or slashdot. It's a really good article and I agree with most of it. People won't even consider GNU/Linux while they can still get a copy of XP for free from a buddy. That's why I tell people that I won't support their pirating of software; and pitch FOSS at every turn to them. http://tlug.jp/articles/Windows_Is_Free Give it a read, it might spur some good conversations tonight.

Aug. 16, 2007

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: WLUG meeting coming up

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eric Martin wrote: > Do we have a topic or is this a round table? Roundtable unless something changes between now and then. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGw8/3Hl0iXDssISsRAsCyAJ4rKuNscfaSporgNe5MrCdCpKatmgCeIslM 3L351W8QJZmU3f4+F11Z4cg= =a8PG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 16, 2007

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: WLUG meeting coming up

by Eric Martin

Do we have a topic or is this a round table? On 8/15/07, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > kstratton(a)fastmail.us wrote: > > Some 1st timers questions: > > > > 1) How do I get there? I have never been to the WPI campus and a street > > address would be helpful. > > Hi "1st timer", > > There are directions posted here for your convenience: > http://www.wlug.org/directions.html > > The address is: > 100 Institute Road > Worcester, MA 01609 > > One can find those directions from the WLUG home page, click "WLUG > Meetings" (the yellow box near the top of the screen), and from there > scroll to the bottom of the page to find the "directions" link. > > > 2) Where do I park? (part of question 1) > > Anyplace you can find an available spot - there is no cost for parking. > Sometimes there are places on campus, and other times one needs to park > on an adjacent street. It varies from meeting to meeting depending upon > campus activities. The directions link is more specific about places to > park on campus to minimize walking. > > Here is a link to a WPI campus map: > http://www.wlug.org/files/wpi_campus_map.pdf > > > 3) Is it OK to be a lillte late and how late does the meeting go? > We try to start right around 7:00 PM and the meeting generally runs to > about 8:30 PM (occasionally later, but never past 9:00 PM that I can > recall). If you're a few minutes late, we won't force you to install > Windows or anything like that. We promise not to bolt down the doors at > 7:00:01 PM. :-) > > Thanks for your interest in WLUG! Hopefully, you'll be able to make it > on Thursday. > > See ya later, > > Andy > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) > Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) > Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGw4/FHl0iXDssISsRAgIfAKCHnlNvgfYOvZkSUmVX/Gv9VFAkWwCcDXNl > RH1wAYOniDcA2AXVCoIpIh0= > =sbGC > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 16, 2007