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Re: [Wlug] apt + version control

by bkn＠ithryn.net

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:01:27 -0400, James Gray <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> My dpkg.py is simply a wrapper around dpkg which parses out the command >> line arguments to determine which packages are being added/removed; it >> also >> uses SUDO_USER to determine the user who called sudo. >> > > apt-get will also install dependencies of the packages you specify. A > simple command line parsing script wouldn't catch this. Perhaps you > handle this already or don't care to track individual libraries. > However, It seemed important enough to mention. > Yes, apt-get and aptitude automatically figure out dependencies and install them, but both apt-get and aptitude call dpkg, or whatever you have the dpkg variable set to in apt.conf, with a list of packages to install (or remove). For example if you run 'apt-get install emacs' apt will download the necessary packages/dependencies and then eventually call 'dpkg --configure emacs emacs22-common emacsen-common emacs22-bin-common emacs22-gtk'; so if you wrap dpkg you'll get a list of all the packages that are installed/removed since all package additions, whether they're dependences or not, are done through dpkg, regardless if you use apt-get or aptitude or install one package or many packages w/ and w/o dependencies. Actually the nice thing about apt is that the people who wrote apt went through great pains to make sure dpkg is called a minimal amount of times; twice for package(s) installation, first for unpacking a package(s) then again to configure the package(s). For package removal dpkg is only called once. This is really nice because if i wrote inefficient code my wrapper will still only get called twice at most, even if i decide to install 100 packages at once. If dpkg was called 100 times to install 100 packages, that would drastically increase the time complexity of installing packages, especially if it's running my code :). -- brad

March 17, 2009

Re: [Wlug] apt + version control

by James Gray

> My dpkg.py is simply a wrapper around dpkg which parses out the command > line arguments to determine which packages are being added/removed; it also > uses SUDO_USER to determine the user who called sudo. > apt-get will also install dependencies of the packages you specify. A simple command line parsing script wouldn't catch this. Perhaps you handle this already or don't care to track individual libraries. However, It seemed important enough to mention.

March 17, 2009

Re: [Wlug] apt + version control

by bkn＠ithryn.net

On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:05:11 -0400, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You could also write a script named apt-get and stick it in the PATH > before the real apt-get, Have it call the real apt-get and log the > parameters and username? You could also have it automagically sudo for > the user too. to make things easier. > This actually ended up being the approach i took. I didn't want to make a wrapper around apt-get because packages can be installed through apt-get, dpkg, aptitude. The solution that i made was to wrote a script called dpkg.py and configure apt to call that script instead of dpkg; this can be by adding Dir::Bin { dpkg "/home/brad/local/bin/dpkg.py"; }; to apt.conf. My dpkg.py is simply a wrapper around dpkg which parses out the command line arguments to determine which packages are being added/removed; it also uses SUDO_USER to determine the user who called sudo. if anyone wants this script let me know, i'll be happy to email it out. It's somewhat crudely written in python with some hardcoded paths (i started to do it in bash/zsh, but had a hard time parsing out the command line args). > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: >> >>> I'm trying to find a solution to a problem. I would like tie apt (or >>> dpkg) to some kind of version control system so every time you >>> install/remove a package you much annotate why you're doing so. The >>> reason i'd like to have a system like this is because i co-maintain >>> a linux machine with a few other people and we'd like to keep a >>> running tally as to who installed what packages and why (since the >>> package gets unwieldy after a while). >> >> Hmm...maybe just telling everyone they need to run using sudo apt-get >> ... would be enough? And log the logs? >> the logs doesn't get the user who executed the script. I thought about parsing out the logs, but i thought i could make a better solution. >>> Does anyone know of a system like this? The closest thing i was able >>> to find was something called pkgwatch, which is a package of scripts >>> which wraps around apt and rpm; one of it's features is to diff the >>> list of packages after every call to apt-get which will get the job >>> done. Does anyone know of anything similar? >> >> Sorry, I don't. Sounds like you want 'cvs-apt-get' which is a wrapper >> around apt-get which logs changes and asks for a commit message each >> time. Shouldn't be too hard, again with Sudo to force. >> As i mentioned above, the wrapper approach ended up being how i did it. apt also has hooks to run scripts before and after package additions with a pre-invoke and post-invoke scripts, but it's hard to determine which packages are being added this way. Wrapping dpkg seems to be the best way, at least as far as i've figured out. >> >> Dunno... even in my team environments, we just make sure to email the >> rest of the team to discuss new packages or just let people know you >> put something on. >> Yeah, this seems like a logical approach, but requires way too much diligents. i think i speak for the other admins on this machine by saying i'm way to lazy to email every time i add a package. If this were for work, i might take this approach, but since this is a recreational machine, laziness wins out. Thanks, -- brad

March 17, 2009

Re: [Wlug] apt + version control

by Jason Couture

You could also write a script named apt-get and stick it in the PATH before the real apt-get, Have it call the real apt-get and log the parameters and username? You could also have it automagically sudo for the user too. to make things easier. On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >> I'm trying to find a solution to a problem. I would like tie apt (or >> dpkg) to some kind of version control system so every time you >> install/remove a package you much annotate why you're doing so. The >> reason i'd like to have a system like this is because i co-maintain >> a linux machine with a few other people and we'd like to keep a >> running tally as to who installed what packages and why (since the >> package gets unwieldy after a while). > > Hmm...maybe just telling everyone they need to run using sudo apt-get > ... would be enough? And log the logs? > >> Does anyone know of a system like this? The closest thing i was able >> to find was something called pkgwatch, which is a package of scripts >> which wraps around apt and rpm; one of it's features is to diff the >> list of packages after every call to apt-get which will get the job >> done. Does anyone know of anything similar? > > Sorry, I don't. Sounds like you want 'cvs-apt-get' which is a wrapper > around apt-get which logs changes and asks for a commit message each > time. Shouldn't be too hard, again with Sudo to force. > > Then have tripwire monitor the system to look for other changes. > > Dunno... even in my team environments, we just make sure to email the > rest of the team to discuss new packages or just let people know you > put something on. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 15, 2009

Re: [Wlug] apt + version control

by John Stoffel

> I'm trying to find a solution to a problem. I would like tie apt (or > dpkg) to some kind of version control system so every time you > install/remove a package you much annotate why you're doing so. The > reason i'd like to have a system like this is because i co-maintain > a linux machine with a few other people and we'd like to keep a > running tally as to who installed what packages and why (since the > package gets unwieldy after a while). Hmm...maybe just telling everyone they need to run using sudo apt-get ... would be enough? And log the logs? > Does anyone know of a system like this? The closest thing i was able > to find was something called pkgwatch, which is a package of scripts > which wraps around apt and rpm; one of it's features is to diff the > list of packages after every call to apt-get which will get the job > done. Does anyone know of anything similar? Sorry, I don't. Sounds like you want 'cvs-apt-get' which is a wrapper around apt-get which logs changes and asks for a commit message each time. Shouldn't be too hard, again with Sudo to force. Then have tripwire monitor the system to look for other changes. Dunno... even in my team environments, we just make sure to email the rest of the team to discuss new packages or just let people know you put something on. John

March 14, 2009

apt + version control

by bkn＠ithryn.net

Hi All, I'm trying to find a solution to a problem. I would like tie apt (or dpkg) to some kind of version control system so every time you install/remove a package you much annotate why you're doing so. The reason i'd like to have a system like this is because i co-maintain a linux machine with a few other people and we'd like to keep a running tally as to who installed what packages and why (since the package gets unwieldy after a while). Does anyone know of a system like this? The closest thing i was able to find was something called pkgwatch, which is a package of scripts which wraps around apt and rpm; one of it's features is to diff the list of packages after every call to apt-get which will get the job done. Does anyone know of anything similar? Thanks, -- Brad

March 13, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Screen resolution on my laptop - HELP!

by Eric Martin

Andrew C Wilkin wrote: > I am trying to adjust the screen resolution on my Toshiba Portege > 7140CT. I'm sure it's an adjustment in the xorg.conf file, but I > don't know enough to do it properly. As a matter of fact, I tried > following online instructions only to have no resolution - only lines > and a frozen machine. > > I need this done in the next couple days, please, and would be willing > to drive a reasonable distance to have you look at it. > > If anyone can help me, either by rewriting it for me via email or by > my visit to get it done, please let me know here or by calling my > cell: 508-713-5947. > > Thanks! > Andrew Wilkin Have you tried krandr? or xrandr? (K / X Rotate and Resize) You get a pull down menu with a bunch of choices. As others mentioned, what distro are you running and what desktop environment? -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F

Feb. 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Screen resolution on my laptop - HELP!

by John Stoffel

Andrew, You don't say which Linux Distro you're using. The newer Ubuntu ones have much improved auto-configuration of the Xserver. First off, I'd make sure you have the latest updates applied. Second, try moving the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to another name and then rebooting. Does your display work then? Greg already replied with some useful help which you can also try, but please give us more info on your Linux Distro so we can offer more targeted help. Cheers, John P.S. I work for Toshiba, but not the laptop side. :]

Feb. 25, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Screen resolution on my laptop - HELP!

by Gregory Avedissian

Looks like my last edit didn't make it into the email. I meant for the resolutions to be: # Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"

Feb. 25, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Screen resolution on my laptop - HELP!

by Gregory Avedissian

I'm assuming you tried "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and it didn't work. First of all, take a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for hints. See if there are any errors listed (lines that start with "EE") and see what driver it's trying to load. Your video card should be using the trident driver, but it might be trying to load the vesa driver. Let us know what you find. Manual edits in xorg.conf to try would be to specify the driver, specify some screen resolutions, and if you know them, specify monitor frequencies. Here's your xorg.conf file back with suggested edits. Try uncommenting the Driver line first, and if you need to, then uncomment SubSection "Display" lines. If you don't like those resolutions you can change them to whatever is appropriate for your screen. I only left the most basic ones, as they are most likely to work. You can add more after you get it working. Don't uncomment the HorizSync and VertRefresh without putting the right frequencies in place of xx, yy, aa, and bb. The new xorg is great if it works with your hardware, and if it doesn't, you're up the creek without a paddle. Good luck. Greg Andrew C Wilkin wrote: > I am trying to adjust the screen resolution on my Toshiba Portege > 7140CT. I'm sure it's an adjustment in the xorg.conf file, but I > don't know enough to do it properly. As a matter of fact, I tried > following online instructions only to have no resolution - only lines > and a frozen machine. > > I need this done in the next couple days, please, and would be willing > to drive a reasonable distance to have you look at it. > > If anyone can help me, either by rewriting it for me via email or by > my visit to get it done, please let me know here or by calling my > cell: 508-713-5947. > > Thanks! > Andrew Wilkin > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page. # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device" # Driver "trident" # BusID "PCI:1:0:0" # HorizSync xx - yy # VertRefresh aa - bb EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Configured Monitor" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Monitor "Configured Monitor" Device "Configured Video Device" # SubSection "Display" # Depth 24 # Modes "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480" # EndSubSection EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" EndSection

Feb. 25, 2009

Screen resolution on my laptop - HELP!

by Andrew C Wilkin

I am trying to adjust the screen resolution on my Toshiba Portege 7140CT. I'm sure it's an adjustment in the xorg.conf file, but I don't know enough to do it properly. As a matter of fact, I tried following online instructions only to have no resolution - only lines and a frozen machine. I need this done in the next couple days, please, and would be willing to drive a reasonable distance to have you look at it. If anyone can help me, either by rewriting it for me via email or by my visit to get it done, please let me know here or by calling my cell: 508-713-5947. Thanks! Andrew Wilkin

Feb. 25, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Fedora freezes

by Jamie Guinan

Hi Walt, When it is frozen, can you ssh in from another machine? Ping, even? -Jamie On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Walt wrote: > Nope, the ONLY two things that work are the light and NmLk. These are > operated (on my Lenovo X61s) using the Fn key. None of the other Fn key > functions operate at time of lock-up. So I'm assuming a panic. > Thanks! > Walt > > > Chuck Anderson wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 07:44:05AM -0500, Walt wrote: > > > >> I can turn the light on (ThinkLight) and the NumLock. Other than that, > >> no keyboard interaction happens. > >> Thanks! > >> > > > > So the little house-shaped light with the "A" inside it that > > represents the state of the Caps Lock function doesn't blink all by > > itself? Because if it does, that indicates that the kernel paniced. > > If it doesn't, then the kernel did not panic. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 24, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Fedora freezes

by Walt

Nope, the ONLY two things that work are the light and NmLk. These are operated (on my Lenovo X61s) using the Fn key. None of the other Fn key functions operate at time of lock-up. So I'm assuming a panic. Thanks! Walt Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 07:44:05AM -0500, Walt wrote: > >> I can turn the light on (ThinkLight) and the NumLock. Other than that, >> no keyboard interaction happens. >> Thanks! >> > > So the little house-shaped light with the "A" inside it that > represents the state of the Caps Lock function doesn't blink all by > itself? Because if it does, that indicates that the kernel paniced. > If it doesn't, then the kernel did not panic. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Feb. 24, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Fedora freezes

by Walt

Wow, thanks! I guess I have some logs to look through. Thanks, Walt E Johnson wrote: > Walt, > > Next time it locks up, after you reboot, get a look at > /var/log/messages. Page down to check the last entries before the > reboot, which should tell you what was going on when it froze. > > Do: > > less /var/log/messages > > which will output the actual text of the messages that are being saved > in the /var/log directory.messages. > You might need to be root to do this --we do have to be root in Debian > and in Ubuntu. > > Since you have: > > >> messages >> messages-20090125 >> messages-20090201 >> messages-20090208 >> messages-20090215 >> > > it means there are several message logs that have been made recently. > You could also output: > > less /var/log/messages-20090215 > > But let's see the last bunch of entries in the latest one. You could > also select text from these messages, and google that for forum > postings. > > Liz J > > > > > > 2009/2/21 Walt <waltsaw(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hi Walt, >> Anything in /var/log? >> >> TC >> > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Feb. 24, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Wireless Video and Linux

by Gary Hanley

> Ritacco, Alan wrote: > Has anyone had any experience with wireless video camera(s) along with > motion sensor detection and recording in Linux? > Looking for what works well, what to buy, install, etc. > > Thanks > > Al I have the Panasonic BL-C131 which I bought last year. It works well under Linux except for the ActiveX stuff like sound, which doesn't work at all, and live panning, which staggers. The motion sensor and recording is done in the device itself so your OS doesn't matter there. Also the only wireless security I can get my camera connected to my router with is WEP. When I set up WPA or WPA2 it won't connect. Not sure why. I haven't been able to google anyone with a similar problem. My other devices all connect fine. So I am happy with the camera and would recommend it, but there could be better cameras out there now for the money which I'm not aware of. -- Gary

Feb. 24, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Wireless Video and Linux

by Keith Wright

> From: "Ritacco, Alan" <Alan.Ritacco(a)umassmed.edu> > < short question > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C99621.2786886E > Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; > name=winmail.dat > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > eJ8+Ih4BAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy > b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAGQAAAFdpcmVsZXNzIFZpZGVvIGFu < ~60 lines drivelish > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C99621.2786886E-- > > What is an ms-tnef, and can you make it stop? -- Keith

Feb. 24, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Wireless Video and Linux

by Conner Finlay

While I can't speak for the hardware side of things, check out ZoneMinder. http://www.zoneminder.com/ On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Ritacco, Alan <Alan.Ritacco(a)umassmed.edu>wrote: > Has anyone had any experience with wireless video camera(s) along with > motion sensor detection and recording in Linux? > Looking for what works well, what to buy, install, etc. > > Thanks > > Al > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Conner Finlay

Feb. 24, 2009

Wireless Video and Linux

by Ritacco, Alan

Has anyone had any experience with wireless video camera(s) along with motion sensor detection and recording in Linux? Looking for what works well, what to buy, install, etc. Thanks Al

Feb. 24, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Fedora freezes

by Chuck Anderson

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 07:44:05AM -0500, Walt wrote: > I can turn the light on (ThinkLight) and the NumLock. Other than that, > no keyboard interaction happens. > Thanks! So the little house-shaped light with the "A" inside it that represents the state of the Caps Lock function doesn't blink all by itself? Because if it does, that indicates that the kernel paniced. If it doesn't, then the kernel did not panic.

Feb. 23, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Fedora freezes

by Walt

I can turn the light on (ThinkLight) and the NumLock. Other than that, no keyboard interaction happens. Thanks! Walt Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 07:35:14AM -0500, Walt wrote: > >> I have been experiencing freezes with Fedora 10. For no apparent >> reason, the machine just stops. No mouse, no keyboard (no ctrl alt F1 >> or ctrl alt del). I can only reboot with the on-off switch. Any ideas >> as to what I can check? >> Thanks! >> Walt >> > > Is the caps lock light blinking when this happens? > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Feb. 23, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Fedora freezes

by E Johnson

Walt, Next time it locks up, after you reboot, get a look at /var/log/messages. Page down to check the last entries before the reboot, which should tell you what was going on when it froze. Do: less /var/log/messages which will output the actual text of the messages that are being saved in the /var/log directory.messages. You might need to be root to do this --we do have to be root in Debian and in Ubuntu. Since you have: > messages > messages-20090125 > messages-20090201 > messages-20090208 > messages-20090215 it means there are several message logs that have been made recently. You could also output: less /var/log/messages-20090215 But let's see the last bunch of entries in the latest one. You could also select text from these messages, and google that for forum postings. Liz J 2009/2/21 Walt <waltsaw(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Walt, > Anything in /var/log? > > TC

Feb. 22, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Fedora freezes

by E Johnson

I had something like this too, in Debian (etch). In my case it was a string of USB disconnect/reconnects, related to either the mouse or the keyboard. /var/log/messages turned up hundereds of messages about this, eventually it would run out of new device numbers to assign to the "new" USB device (keyboard or mouse) and everything would lock up. Yes, when Firefox was running, but I think I reproduced it in Ubuntu 8.04 when no browser at all was running. Upgraded to Debian Lenny some weeks ago, and still had the USB disconnect/reconnect problem although I think I managed to avoid the total-lockup problem --possibly only because we rebooted several times due to power failures & etc. Now running PS2 keyboard here, resulting in no more USB disconnect/reconnect messages in /var/log/messages and no more lockups since then. Running mouse plugged into the laptop running Ubuntu (8.04 hardy) now results in the same USB disconnect/reconnect messages, although it has not locked up yet. But I haven't used it much lately, either. I did notice the other day that it was running a little hot --maybe because it never had a chance to suspend, because of this disconnect/reconnect thing that's constantly happening. What did /var/log/messages report? Liz J 2009/2/21 Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu>: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 07:35:14AM -0500, Walt wrote: >> I have been experiencing freezes with Fedora 10. For no apparent >> reason, the machine just stops. No mouse, no keyboard (no ctrl alt F1 >> or ctrl alt del). I can only reboot with the on-off switch. Any ideas >> as to what I can check? >> Thanks! >> Walt > > Is the caps lock light blinking when this happens? > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 21, 2009

Re: [Wlug] cheap, small computer

by Tim Keller

Another option might be an HP T5730, we've got a model that has an optional PCI slot (so you could put in a hauppauge in the PCI slot. You can put a gig of ram in them and SSD's are small enough you can hide one inside. The only downer I can think of is that the video card is marginal. If you can push data out of the hauppauge that might be your best choice. I put pictures of this up on my picasa site: http://picasaweb.google.com/turbofx/Micro_pcs# Enjoy... Tim. On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:18 PM, David P. Connell <davec99(a)charter.net>wrote: > I am running mythbuntu on a P4 Compaq returned business lease computer that > I originally just picked up to get the Windows XP COA (ironic that I am not > even running Windows on it at all). I added a couple of Hauppauge tuners > (PVR350 and PVR150, now swapped to a single PVR500), an Nvidia 5200 AGP > card > with TV-out, a 120GB HDD, 1GB RAM and a DVD-RW optical drive. The PVR-350 > came with a remote control and sensor. When I found that I only had to > replace a couple of capacitors on the motherboard, I couldn't resist > running > it for a while. It fits on the AV rack since its a desktop form factor. > > There are tons of these things out there for under $100 plus shipping. > You > will likely need to make a couple of upgrades, but there are quite > inexpensive, the correct form factor and not very loud at all. There is a > small processor fan and the power-supply takes care of exhausting the heat. > > Just an option, and the COA, although not intended to be transferred, has > at > least some value, somewhere. > > check out GearXS.com and maybe ecost.com for a general list of available > units. They had some Dells too. > > DaveC > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am weary of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 21, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Fedora freezes

by Chuck Anderson

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 07:35:14AM -0500, Walt wrote: > I have been experiencing freezes with Fedora 10. For no apparent > reason, the machine just stops. No mouse, no keyboard (no ctrl alt F1 > or ctrl alt del). I can only reboot with the on-off switch. Any ideas > as to what I can check? > Thanks! > Walt Is the caps lock light blinking when this happens?

Feb. 21, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Fedora freezes

by Walt

Hi Walt, Anything in /var/log? TC Yes, what should I look for? (see below) Check memory and power supply. If you're using a realtime kernel, that's a possible cause of lockup. And if you want to reboot more gracefully, use magic sysrq keys. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_sysrq Note that the instructions say to hold down alt-sysrq, but on my system, that brings up the window to take a screenshot. I have to hold down ctrl-alt-sysrq. Then press keys, one at a time, with a couple seconds between each: r - e - i - s - u - b (or other keys, if appropriate. See the chart in the wikipedia article.) Greg This just started recently; I've had the notebook for almost a year. It's had Fedora 9 and 10 on it. I'm not sure if I have a realtime kernel. Next time it locks, I'll try the ctrl-alt-sysrq. I've been experiencing the same thing. I've assumed it was due to vmware and/or the new scheduler. At one point I got frustrated, confirmed that the computer could still be connected to and just left it alone. After 10 mins or so it started responding again. Seems to happen most when doing something intensive in vmware (like compiling a big program) and opening tabs in firefox. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com I seem to have VMware installed (if I type vm TAB TAB I get a bunch of choices, but if I rpm -q vmware, it's not installed), but I can't seem to get it to work, I use virtualbox. Thanks for all your help! Walt Smolts says my set-up is http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_7932ef68-1e8a-4e4a-a49c-c9414ff63bd2 Contents of /var/log anaconda.log anaconda.syslog anaconda.xlog aprsd audit BackupPC bittorrent boot.log boot.log-20090125 boot.log-20090201 boot.log-20090208 boot.log-20090215 bro btmp btmp-20090201 clamd.milter cluster collectl ConsoleKit cron cron-20090125 cron-20090201 cron-20090208 cron-20090215 cups dirmngr dirsrv dmesg dmesg.old faillog fax freshclam.log gdm glpi httpd iptraf jetty kismet lastlog ldirectord.log ldirectord.log-20090125 ldirectord.log-20090201 ldirectord.log-20090208 ldirectord.log-20090215 libvirt mail maillog maillog-20090125 maillog-20090201 maillog-20090208 maillog-20090215 mcelog messages messages-20090125 messages-20090201 messages-20090208 messages-20090215 munin mysqld.log mythtv nagios ntpstats ocsinventory-agent PackageKit pm-powersave.log pm-suspend.log ppp prelink privoxy rpmpkgs rpmpkgs-20090125 rpmpkgs-20090201 rpmpkgs-20090208 rpmpkgs-20090215 samba secure secure-20090125 secure-20090201 secure-20090208 secure-20090215 setroubleshoot snort spooler spooler-20090125 spooler-20090201 spooler-20090208 spooler-20090215 squid tallylog tinyerp tomcat5 tor vbox vbox-install.log vdradmin vmware wpa_supplicant.log wtmp wtmp-20081101 xen Xorg.0.log Xorg.0.log.old Xorg.1.log Xorg.1.log.old Xorg.2.log yum.log yum.log-20080302 yum.log-20080423 yum.log-20080630 yum.log-20090101 zabbix zoneminder Tal Cohen wrote: > Hi Walt, > Anything in /var/log? > > TC > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Walt > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:35 AM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: [Wlug] Fedora freezes > > I have been experiencing freezes with Fedora 10. For no apparent reason, > the machine just stops. No mouse, no keyboard (no ctrl alt F1 or ctrl alt > del). I can only reboot with the on-off switch. Any ideas as to what I can > check? > Thanks! > Walt > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Feb. 21, 2009