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Re: [Wlug] Sorry about the facebook thing.

by Frank Sweetser

Keith Wright wrote: > So the webmail provider has sold out? No, it's actually worse than that. Facebook offers to do "useful" things with your address book. In order to get at your address book, it encourages you to give it your webmail provider, username, and password. Doesn't *that* sound like a good idea? > If I go to Facebook with Linux and Firefox > will the same happen to me? Yep - it's cross platform and cross browser compatible evil! -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

April 30, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Sorry about the facebook thing.

by Keith Wright

> From: Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> > > I accidentially clicked the send invites button on > facebook, I didnt mean to, it sent it to EVERYONE in > my address book :| Quite annoying. > > So anyways, I do apologize for the spam. > > Jason Couture ------------------------ > From: Ben LaVerriere <gonoldothrond(a)gmail.com> > > In fairness, it did require some action on Jason's > part --- Why be elaborately fair to the evil ones? This is the third time I have gotten one of these bot-written Facebook "invitations" which was soon followed by apologies and annoyance from the purported sender. They _trick_ people into pushing the button. But what does the button have to do with it? What program does the button run that could not be run without the button? Is this a gaping security hole in the browser and operating system? Or is it an conspiracy between Facebook and your email host? > Facebook does have a feature (?) to email > people "from your address book" at various webmail > providers, So the webmail provider has sold out? If I go to Facebook with Linux and Firefox will the same happen to me? > but it won't do so without the user specifically > providing his or her credentials and approval. You need another "(?)" after "approval". But why not? Is that in writing, or is it really enforced by software, or is it just a rumor they like to spread? > More specifically, we should be upset at Jason for > not noticing that WLUG isn't a person when asking > Facebook to send those messages, not at Facebook for > letting him do so. To be fair, you shouldn't have to be checking all kinds of occult trivia to prevent your entire address book from getting sent to any website that asks for it. Facebook did not _let_ him send it. This is one of the headers of that message: > Received: from mx-out.facebook.com > (outmail018.snc1.tfbnw.net [69.63.178.177]) > by SMTP.WPI.EDU (8.14.2/8.14.2) > with ESMTP id n3TG9iIT026912 > for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; > Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:09:50 -0400 > (envelope-from invite%2B2maswggx(a)facebookmail.com) that clearly shows it was transfered directly from Facebook to WPI, Jason had little to do with it. I think I will stay upset with Microsoft, Facebook, and the webmail corporations and side with the human. -- Keith

April 30, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Sorry about the facebook thing.

by Jason Couture

LOL. There is no confirmation either, Once that button is clicked and the post request sent, Even if you attempt to abort it, the emails go out. It really sucks, and the buttons are so small and close together... lol bleh. But regardless it was my mistake. Be careful what you click :P Espically when you have an addressbook with like, 9000 addresses in it lol. That and the fact that im a bit of an idiot does tend to add into the whole mistake making fiasco. :P On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: >> From: Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> >> >> I accidentially clicked the send invites button on >> facebook, I didnt mean to, it sent it to EVERYONE in >> my address book :| Quite annoying. >> >> So anyways, I do apologize for the spam. >> >> Jason Couture > ------------------------ >> From: Ben LaVerriere <gonoldothrond(a)gmail.com> >> >> In fairness, it did require some action on Jason's >> part --- > > Why be elaborately fair to the evil ones? > > This is the third time I have gotten one of > these bot-written Facebook "invitations" which > was soon followed by apologies and annoyance > from the purported sender. > > They _trick_ people into pushing the button. > > But what does the button have to do with it? What > program does the button run that could not be run > without the button? Is this a gaping security hole in > the browser and operating system? Or is it an > conspiracy between Facebook and your email host? > >> Facebook does have a feature (?) to email >> people "from your address book" at various webmail >> providers, > > So the webmail provider has sold out? > > If I go to Facebook with Linux and Firefox > will the same happen to me? > >> but it won't do so without the user specifically >> providing his or her credentials and approval. > > You need another "(?)" after "approval". > > But why not? Is that in writing, or is it > really enforced by software, or is it just > a rumor they like to spread? > >> More specifically, we should be upset at Jason for >> not noticing that WLUG isn't a person when asking >> Facebook to send those messages, not at Facebook for >> letting him do so. > > To be fair, you shouldn't have to be checking > all kinds of occult trivia to prevent > your entire address book from getting > sent to any website that asks for it. > > Facebook did not _let_ him send it. > > This is one of the headers of that message: > >> Received: from mx-out.facebook.com >> (outmail018.snc1.tfbnw.net [69.63.178.177]) >> by SMTP.WPI.EDU (8.14.2/8.14.2) >> with ESMTP id n3TG9iIT026912 >> for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; >> Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:09:50 -0400 >> (envelope-from invite%2B2maswggx(a)facebookmail.com) > > that clearly shows it was transfered directly > from Facebook to WPI, Jason had little to do with it. > > I think I will stay upset with Microsoft, > Facebook, and the webmail corporations > and side with the human. > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 30, 2009

Sorry about the facebook thing.

by Jason Couture

I accidentially clicked the send invites button on facebook, I didnt mean to, it sent it to EVERYONE in my address book :| Quite annoying. So anyways, I do apologize for the spam. Jason Couture

April 30, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Check out my photos on Facebook

by Keith Wright

> From: Eric Stein <eastein(a)WPI.EDU> > > I believe I speak for us all when I ask WHAT THE HELL? For a while I thought Facebook might be evil. Now I know for sure. For those (are there still some) who have not seen this before, be assured that Jason did not write this message, it is autogenerated in the name of anyone who gets curious enough to touch Facebook. They have tricks for getting your address list and using it to spam everyone from your mother to your boss. Don't touch it. > Hi Worcester, The cheeky autospammer addresses Worcester Linux Group by his first name. > I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my > pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as > a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join > Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own > profile. This paragraph is identical to three or four I have gotten from other people, often through mailing lists. > Thanks, > Jason That signature is forged. THAT'S not a sig, THIS is a sig: -- Keith

April 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Check out my photos on Facebook

by J. R. Mauro

Hopefully she stays on Twitter and doesn't find out what freenode is... On Apr 29, 2009, at 13:30, Clint Moyer <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> wrote: > But wait, don't you know that even Oprah is on Twitter? > > > ---- "J. R. Mauro" <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > ============= > Social networking sites: the AIM-virus host of the new millenium. > > Don't touch it with a stick, kids. All you need is IRC, BBS, > public_html, and an email address. > > > > On Apr 29, 2009, at 17:11, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: > >>> From: Eric Stein <eastein(a)WPI.EDU> >>> >>> I believe I speak for us all when I ask WHAT THE HELL? >> >> For a while I thought Facebook might be evil. >> >> Now I know for sure. >> >> For those (are there still some) who have not seen >> this before, be assured that Jason did not write >> this message, it is autogenerated in the name of >> anyone who gets curious enough to touch Facebook. >> >> They have tricks for getting your address list and >> using it to spam everyone from your mother to your >> boss. >> >> Don't touch it. >> >>> Hi Worcester, >> >> The cheeky autospammer addresses Worcester Linux Group >> by his first name. >> >>> I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my >>> pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as >>> a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join >>> Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own >>> profile. >> >> This paragraph is identical to three or four I have >> gotten from other people, often through mailing lists. >> >>> Thanks, >>> Jason >> >> That signature is forged. >> >> THAT'S not a sig, THIS is a sig: >> >> -- Keith >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Check out my photos on Facebook

by Ben LaVerriere

In fairness, it did require some action on Jason's part --- Facebook does have a feature (?) to email people "from your address book" at various webmail providers, but it won't do so without the user specifically providing his or her credentials and approval. More specifically, we should be upset at Jason for not noticing that WLUG isn't a person when asking Facebook to send those messages, not at Facebook for letting him do so. Peace. Ben Keith Wright wrote: >> From: Eric Stein <eastein(a)WPI.EDU> >> >> I believe I speak for us all when I ask WHAT THE HELL? >> > > For a while I thought Facebook might be evil. > > Now I know for sure. > > For those (are there still some) who have not seen > this before, be assured that Jason did not write > this message, it is autogenerated in the name of > anyone who gets curious enough to touch Facebook. > > They have tricks for getting your address list and > using it to spam everyone from your mother to your > boss. > > Don't touch it. > > >> Hi Worcester, >> > > The cheeky autospammer addresses Worcester Linux Group > by his first name. > > >> I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my >> pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as >> a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join >> Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own >> profile. >> > > This paragraph is identical to three or four I have > gotten from other people, often through mailing lists. > > >> Thanks, >> Jason >> > > That signature is forged. > > THAT'S not a sig, THIS is a sig: > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Check out my photos on Facebook

by Clint Moyer

But wait, don't you know that even Oprah is on Twitter? ---- "J. R. Mauro" <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> wrote: ============= Social networking sites: the AIM-virus host of the new millenium. Don't touch it with a stick, kids. All you need is IRC, BBS, public_html, and an email address. On Apr 29, 2009, at 17:11, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: >> From: Eric Stein <eastein(a)WPI.EDU> >> >> I believe I speak for us all when I ask WHAT THE HELL? > > For a while I thought Facebook might be evil. > > Now I know for sure. > > For those (are there still some) who have not seen > this before, be assured that Jason did not write > this message, it is autogenerated in the name of > anyone who gets curious enough to touch Facebook. > > They have tricks for getting your address list and > using it to spam everyone from your mother to your > boss. > > Don't touch it. > >> Hi Worcester, > > The cheeky autospammer addresses Worcester Linux Group > by his first name. > >> I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my >> pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as >> a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join >> Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own >> profile. > > This paragraph is identical to three or four I have > gotten from other people, often through mailing lists. > >> Thanks, >> Jason > > That signature is forged. > > THAT'S not a sig, THIS is a sig: > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Check out my photos on Facebook

by J. R. Mauro

Social networking sites: the AIM-virus host of the new millenium. Don't touch it with a stick, kids. All you need is IRC, BBS, public_html, and an email address. On Apr 29, 2009, at 17:11, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: >> From: Eric Stein <eastein(a)WPI.EDU> >> >> I believe I speak for us all when I ask WHAT THE HELL? > > For a while I thought Facebook might be evil. > > Now I know for sure. > > For those (are there still some) who have not seen > this before, be assured that Jason did not write > this message, it is autogenerated in the name of > anyone who gets curious enough to touch Facebook. > > They have tricks for getting your address list and > using it to spam everyone from your mother to your > boss. > > Don't touch it. > >> Hi Worcester, > > The cheeky autospammer addresses Worcester Linux Group > by his first name. > >> I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my >> pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as >> a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join >> Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own >> profile. > > This paragraph is identical to three or four I have > gotten from other people, often through mailing lists. > >> Thanks, >> Jason > > That signature is forged. > > THAT'S not a sig, THIS is a sig: > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Check out my photos on Facebook

by Eric Stein

He got his spam in our WLUG! I think Frank WLUG'd his spam just now. Eric Richard Klein wrote: > He got his facebook in our WLUG! Or did we get our WLUG in his facebook? > >

April 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Check out my photos on Facebook

by Richard Klein

He got his facebook in our WLUG! Or did we get our WLUG in his facebook? -- Rich On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Eric Stein <eastein(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > I believe I speak for us all when I ask WHAT THE HELL?

April 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Check out my photos on Facebook

by Eric Stein

I believe I speak for us all when I ask WHAT THE HELL? Eric Jason Couture wrote: > facebook > > Jason Couture > <http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=583720669&k=ZWMX5WQ2U4W1UCCFQKWUS3W> > Jason Couture has: > 14 friends > 0 photos > notes > 2 wall posts > 5 groups > > > > > Check out my photos on Facebook > > > Hi Worcester, > > I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and > events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you > need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own > profile. > > Thanks, > Jason > > To sign up for Facebook, follow the link below: > http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=583720669&k=ZWMX5WQ2U4W1UCCFQKWUS3W&r > <http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=583720669&k=ZWMX5WQ2U4W1UCCFQKWUS3W&r> > > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org was invited to join Facebook by Jason Couture. If > you do not wish to receive this type of email from Facebook in the > future, please click here > <http://www.facebook.com/o.php?k=18063b&u=1760989286&mid=6278f6G68f69066G0G8> > to unsubscribe. > Facebook's offices are located at 156 University Ave., Palo Alto, CA > 94301. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 29, 2009

Check out my photos on Facebook

by Jason Couture

Hi Worcester, I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Thanks, Jason To sign up for Facebook, follow the link below: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=583720669&k=ZWMX5WQ2U4W1UCCFQKWUS3W&r wlug(a)mail.wlug.org was invited to join Facebook by Jason Couture. If you do not wish to receive this type of email from Facebook in the future, please click on the link below to unsubscribe. http://www.facebook.com/o.php?k=18063b&u=1760989286&mid=6278f6G68f69066G0G8 Facebook's offices are located at 156 University Ave., Palo Alto, CA 94301.

April 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] odd entry in /etc/passwd

by Theo Van Dinter

LDAP doesn't let your fingers do the walking... On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:57 PM, J.R. Mauro <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: >> Eric Martin wrote: >>> So I just found an odd entry in /etc/passwd on one of my servers: >>> >>> +:::::: >>> >>> Of course I'm not running tripwire on it so I can't be assured of the >>> last time I edited the file / did anything to edit it. etc/shadow >>> doesn't have the entry but shadow is only checked if the second field is >>> x, right? >>> >>> I'm running Suse and I've been using yast lately, could that have >>> anything to do with it? I hope it does as I really hope I don't have to >>> run a full audit on the box. >> >> Looks like it's part of NIS/NIS+ configuration: > > people still use NIS? > >> >> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/plus-minus-sign-in-unix-linux-passwd-file/ >> >> -- >> Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that >> WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken >> GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] odd entry in /etc/passwd

by Eric Martin

Frank Sweetser wrote: > Eric Martin wrote: > >> So I just found an odd entry in /etc/passwd on one of my servers: >> >> +:::::: >> >> Of course I'm not running tripwire on it so I can't be assured of the >> last time I edited the file / did anything to edit it. etc/shadow >> doesn't have the entry but shadow is only checked if the second field is >> x, right? >> >> I'm running Suse and I've been using yast lately, could that have >> anything to do with it? I hope it does as I really hope I don't have to >> run a full audit on the box. >> > > Looks like it's part of NIS/NIS+ configuration: > > http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/plus-minus-sign-in-unix-linux-passwd-file/ > > Thanks Frank! I googled +:::::: and nothing came back. I was just about to go hit my Hacking Exposed books as I though I remembered something from there. NIS was off in Yast, but it's good to know that I'm (probably) not hacked.

April 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] odd entry in /etc/passwd

by J.R. Mauro

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Eric Martin wrote: >> So I just found an odd entry in /etc/passwd on one of my servers: >> >> +:::::: >> >> Of course I'm not running tripwire on it so I can't be assured of the >> last time I edited the file / did anything to edit it. etc/shadow >> doesn't have the entry but shadow is only checked if the second field is >> x, right? >> >> I'm running Suse and I've been using yast lately, could that have >> anything to do with it? I hope it does as I really hope I don't have to >> run a full audit on the box. > > Looks like it's part of NIS/NIS+ configuration: people still use NIS? > > http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/plus-minus-sign-in-unix-linux-passwd-file/ > > -- > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that > WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken > GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] odd entry in /etc/passwd

by Frank Sweetser

Eric Martin wrote: > So I just found an odd entry in /etc/passwd on one of my servers: > > +:::::: > > Of course I'm not running tripwire on it so I can't be assured of the > last time I edited the file / did anything to edit it. etc/shadow > doesn't have the entry but shadow is only checked if the second field is > x, right? > > I'm running Suse and I've been using yast lately, could that have > anything to do with it? I hope it does as I really hope I don't have to > run a full audit on the box. Looks like it's part of NIS/NIS+ configuration: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/plus-minus-sign-in-unix-linux-passwd-file/ -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

April 29, 2009

odd entry in /etc/passwd

by Eric Martin

So I just found an odd entry in /etc/passwd on one of my servers: +:::::: Of course I'm not running tripwire on it so I can't be assured of the last time I edited the file / did anything to edit it. etc/shadow doesn't have the entry but shadow is only checked if the second field is x, right? I'm running Suse and I've been using yast lately, could that have anything to do with it? I hope it does as I really hope I don't have to run a full audit on the box. tia -- Eric Martin

April 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Keyboard and mouse repeatedly disconnect/reconnect

by E Johnson

My original question had to do with USB disconnects/reconnects. I have this "issue" with wired mouse and wired keyboard. Sometimes, after repeated messages all the same (many per minute over hours), this appears to cause the keyboard and/or mouse to lock up, not accepting input. At that point the PC requires reboot. Same messages in /var/log/messages using: -- different types (brands) of wired mouse and/or wired keyboard, -- different distros of Linux (various Ubuntu, various Debian), -- different kernels, -- four different PCs with 3 different mobos, each with their own set of peripherals. Had this problem going on two years now. Liz J 2009/4/28 Richard Klein <richspk(a)gmail.com>: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Lee Keyser-Allen <frozbiz(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> FWIW, I don't believe that this (bizzare mouse behavior) is a Linux issue. >> >> I have a wireless logitech keyboard/mouse at work hooked up to a thinkpad >> running XP, and find that sometimes the mouse goes haywire. It seems to be >> due to wireless interference (there's a crapload of that in my office). > > Have you tried relocating the receiver? > > -- > Rich > Sent from Framingham, Massachusetts, United States > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list

April 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Keyboard and mouse repeatedly disconnect/reconnect

by Lee Keyser-Allen

It's happened across office moves (in the same building), so I'm less inclined to believe that it's the location of the receiver specifically. Since my company creates wireless devices, we've just got a ton of interference all the time (I'd estimate that at any given point in time we have around 100 APs talking in a 100 yard radius. I've got four in my office, not to mention the four stations). Also it's fine most of the time ... when I replace the batteries, it chooses a new channel often, and is borked until I get it to move to a clear channel, and then it works fine for another month or two until the batteries die. Funny enough ... the keyboard just works ... I've not changed the batteries in two years, and never had interference problems ... hooray for super low-bandwidth applications :) Cheers, Lee On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Richard Klein <richspk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Lee Keyser-Allen <frozbiz(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > FWIW, I don't believe that this (bizzare mouse behavior) is a Linux > issue. > > > > I have a wireless logitech keyboard/mouse at work hooked up to a thinkpad > > running XP, and find that sometimes the mouse goes haywire. It seems to > be > > due to wireless interference (there's a crapload of that in my office). > > Have you tried relocating the receiver? > > -- > Rich > Sent from Framingham, Massachusetts, United States > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Lee Keyser-Allen (lkeyser(a)alum.wpi.edu)

April 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Keyboard and mouse repeatedly disconnect/reconnect

by Richard Klein

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Lee Keyser-Allen <frozbiz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > FWIW, I don't believe that this (bizzare mouse behavior) is a Linux issue. > > I have a wireless logitech keyboard/mouse at work hooked up to a thinkpad > running XP, and find that sometimes the mouse goes haywire. It seems to be > due to wireless interference (there's a crapload of that in my office). Have you tried relocating the receiver? -- Rich Sent from Framingham, Massachusetts, United States

April 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Keyboard and mouse repeatedly disconnect/reconnect

by J.R. Mauro

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Lee Keyser-Allen <frozbiz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > FWIW, I don't believe that this (bizzare mouse behavior) is a Linux issue. > > I have a wireless logitech keyboard/mouse at work hooked up to a thinkpad > running XP, and find that sometimes the mouse goes haywire. It seems to be > due to wireless interference (there's a crapload of that in my office). > > I find that if it's particularly bad, I can force it to swtich channels and > reassociate by hitting the connect button on the receiver followed by the > connect button on the mouse (order is important, as just hitting the connect > button on the mouse will appear to reassociate, but will not change the > channel). > > Also I've noticed that these problems tend to be more likely to occur/are > worse when the mouse is running low on battery (which it eats through like > candy, but that's another gripe). IIRC this is an issue with wired devices. It may not be a kernel issue at all. Sometimes, hardware is just flakey. The real test would be to use a different brand of mouse for a while and see if the errors stop. > > Hope that helps, > > Lee > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Ive noticed that logitech mice seem to have strange issues with linux, >> Example i have a wireless logitech USB Mouse and keyboard, And every >> so often the mouse freaks out and jumps all over the screen clicks on >> things while it does and then returns to normal. Next time it happens >> ill post a copy of /var/log/messages pertaining to the issue, Perhaps >> your issue is related? >> >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:28 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Okay. great. Will try the 28 kernel and check back in next week with >> > results. >> > >> > Thanks very much, >> > Liz J >> > >> > 2009/4/25 J. R. Mauro <jrm8005(a)gmail.com>: >> >> Sorry, didn't see you already had given version/distro info. See if >> >> you can upgrade to a more recent kernel; tons of issues with the input >> >> layer were fixed between .24/.26 and now. Other advice: ensure that >> >> evdev is the driver being used. Other than that, it could be hardware >> >> issues. >> >> >> >> P.S. I would recommend .28 as I don't think .29 is incredibly stable. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- > Lee Keyser-Allen > (lkeyser(a)alum.wpi.edu) > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

April 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Keyboard and mouse repeatedly disconnect/reconnect

by Lee Keyser-Allen

FWIW, I don't believe that this (bizzare mouse behavior) is a Linux issue. I have a wireless logitech keyboard/mouse at work hooked up to a thinkpad running XP, and find that sometimes the mouse goes haywire. It seems to be due to wireless interference (there's a crapload of that in my office). I find that if it's particularly bad, I can force it to swtich channels and reassociate by hitting the connect button on the receiver followed by the connect button on the mouse (order is important, as just hitting the connect button on the mouse will appear to reassociate, but will not change the channel). Also I've noticed that these problems tend to be more likely to occur/are worse when the mouse is running low on battery (which it eats through like candy, but that's another gripe). Hope that helps, Lee On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Ive noticed that logitech mice seem to have strange issues with linux, > Example i have a wireless logitech USB Mouse and keyboard, And every > so often the mouse freaks out and jumps all over the screen clicks on > things while it does and then returns to normal. Next time it happens > ill post a copy of /var/log/messages pertaining to the issue, Perhaps > your issue is related? > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:28 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Okay. great. Will try the 28 kernel and check back in next week with > results. > > > > Thanks very much, > > Liz J > > > > 2009/4/25 J. R. Mauro <jrm8005(a)gmail.com>: > >> Sorry, didn't see you already had given version/distro info. See if > >> you can upgrade to a more recent kernel; tons of issues with the input > >> layer were fixed between .24/.26 and now. Other advice: ensure that > >> evdev is the driver being used. Other than that, it could be hardware > >> issues. > >> > >> P.S. I would recommend .28 as I don't think .29 is incredibly stable. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Lee Keyser-Allen (lkeyser(a)alum.wpi.edu)

April 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Linux audio driver problems [was Re: Keyboard and mouse repeatedly disconnect/reconnect]

by J.R. Mauro

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Randy Cole <randyokc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hmm... Ubuntu (tried against 8.10 x64, 9.04 i386 liveCD & x64) (and > Fedora 10 x64) have problems with sound with my recent HP DV4-1222NR > laptop. I suspect my audio setup is similar to E. Johnson's. > > Problem is with alsa-driver. When I compile from source it works, until > the kernel changes. Well, that's the nature of an unstable kernel API :P > > Even then the mute & volume "smart keys" do not have the desired effect, > so I have to use the icon or menu. Gnome keyboard shortcuts gui is > poorly documented - there is no man page, no indication what config file > gnome-keybinding-properties corresponds to. > > How do I change the action "volume mute" to affect the proper device? There are lots of ways to do that. Gnome and KDE are a bit mystical (and don't work). Google for "evtest", which is a program that can look at a file in /dev/input/ and tell you what key/keycode/etc was pressed. Also, xev might be enough for you to find out what key it is, and map that into whatever application you use. > > -Randy. > > J. R. Mauro wrote: >> Sound is fine. Ubuntu's sound problems are due to pulseaudio (most of >> the time) >> >> >> >> On Apr 26, 2009, at 12:24, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> How is the sound on the -29 kernel? Sound has been giving me fits on >>> the various ubuntu kernels since April 08. >>> >>> I need headset to work; don't have or use external speakers. >>> >>> Mobo = ASUS M3A78-Cm, which has Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc >>> SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) >>> >>> Even if not happy, if I had to I could put up with the USB disconnect >>> thing, but headset dysfunction would be unacceptable. >>> >>> Liz J >>> >>> 2009/4/26 Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu>: >>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:28:02PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Okay. great. Will try the 28 kernel and check back in next week >>>>> with results. >>>>> >>>> 2.6.28 is not a great release. Fedora skipped over it and went right >>>> to 2.6.29.1 which is the latest stable kernel. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wlug mailing list >>>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 28, 2009

Linux audio driver problems [was Re: Keyboard and mouse repeatedly disconnect/reconnect]

by Randy Cole

Hmm... Ubuntu (tried against 8.10 x64, 9.04 i386 liveCD & x64) (and Fedora 10 x64) have problems with sound with my recent HP DV4-1222NR laptop. I suspect my audio setup is similar to E. Johnson's. Problem is with alsa-driver. When I compile from source it works, until the kernel changes. Even then the mute & volume "smart keys" do not have the desired effect, so I have to use the icon or menu. Gnome keyboard shortcuts gui is poorly documented - there is no man page, no indication what config file gnome-keybinding-properties corresponds to. How do I change the action "volume mute" to affect the proper device? -Randy. J. R. Mauro wrote: > Sound is fine. Ubuntu's sound problems are due to pulseaudio (most of > the time) > > > > On Apr 26, 2009, at 12:24, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> How is the sound on the -29 kernel? Sound has been giving me fits on >> the various ubuntu kernels since April 08. >> >> I need headset to work; don't have or use external speakers. >> >> Mobo = ASUS M3A78-Cm, which has Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc >> SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) >> >> Even if not happy, if I had to I could put up with the USB disconnect >> thing, but headset dysfunction would be unacceptable. >> >> Liz J >> >> 2009/4/26 Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu>: >> >>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:28:02PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: >>> >>>> Okay. great. Will try the 28 kernel and check back in next week >>>> with results. >>>> >>> 2.6.28 is not a great release. Fedora skipped over it and went right >>> to 2.6.29.1 which is the latest stable kernel. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 28, 2009