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201 CMR 17 - "Standards for the protection of personal information of residents of the Commonwealth" - takes effect March 1

by Ryan Pugatch

Hello all, Just wanted to remind everyone that 201 CMR 17 takes effect March 1! If you're not familiar with this regulation, it specifies policies, procedures, and security requirements that are needed if you store a minimum of first initial and last name in conjunction with a social security number, drivers license/id number, financial account number (credit, debit, bank account number), or an access code or PIN/password that would allow access to a bank account. This doesn't just apply to companies that accept credit card payments. Think of it from an HR point of view as well. The regulation is available at: http://www.mass.gov/Eoca/docs/idtheft/201CMR1700reg.pdf Best, Ryan

Feb. 1, 2010

Re: [Wlug] GPS

by Jorden Mauro

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > The problem no device maker wants to admit is that having a usb protrusion > sticking out the side of a laptop is dangerous. > > The expresscard and sd card slots at least recess into the laptop for > safety. I agree! And in that light, the dearth of devices for it is sad. A GPS card would indeed be awesome. > > But thanks for the feedback! > > ________________________________ > From: Jorden Mauro <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 4:50:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Wlug] GPS > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Great idea, but it has an sd card reader built in! > > I went looking for other expresscards and there don't seem to be too > many varieties out there. I guess, as a port, it just couldn't compete > with USB. > >> >> It's a lenovo s10, and I really like it. My only complaint is the >> keyboard >> is a little smaller than other netbooks, but other than that it does it >> all! >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Jorden Mauro <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> >> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >> Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 4:38:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [Wlug] GPS >> >> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> I have a great little Lenovo netbook and I haven't found a good use for >>> the >>> expresscard 34 slot >>> >>> I've been researching GPS devices but can't find an ExpressCard 34 style >>> GPS >>> device. >>> >>> I could get a normal GPS device with a screen and junk, but that would >>> defeat the purpose of my search. >>> >>> Does anyone have experience with using a laptop with a GPS device? >>> >>> FYI: I already have maxed out the ram and have a 150gig hard drive, plus >>> a >>> webcam and bluetooth...if anyone can think of a better use of the >>> Expresscard, I'd like to hear that, too! >>> >>> Ciao >>> >> >> If it has no SD slot, you can get an expresscard34 multicard reader >> for cheap. It's a boon if friends/family/self have lots of cards and >> cameras and whatnot. >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Jan. 30, 2010

Re: [Wlug] GPS

by Mike Leo

The problem no device maker wants to admit is that having a usb protrusion sticking out the side of a laptop is dangerous. The expresscard and sd card slots at least recess into the laptop for safety. But thanks for the feedback! ________________________________ From: Jorden Mauro <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 4:50:01 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] GPS On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Great idea, but it has an sd card reader built in! I went looking for other expresscards and there don't seem to be too many varieties out there. I guess, as a port, it just couldn't compete with USB. > > It's a lenovo s10, and I really like it. My only complaint is the keyboard > is a little smaller than other netbooks, but other than that it does it all! > > ________________________________ > From: Jorden Mauro <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 4:38:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Wlug] GPS > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> I have a great little Lenovo netbook and I haven't found a good use for >> the >> expresscard 34 slot >> >> I've been researching GPS devices but can't find an ExpressCard 34 style >> GPS >> device. >> >> I could get a normal GPS device with a screen and junk, but that would >> defeat the purpose of my search. >> >> Does anyone have experience with using a laptop with a GPS device? >> >> FYI: I already have maxed out the ram and have a 150gig hard drive, plus a >> webcam and bluetooth...if anyone can think of a better use of the >> Expresscard, I'd like to hear that, too! >> >> Ciao >> > > If it has no SD slot, you can get an expresscard34 multicard reader > for cheap. It's a boon if friends/family/self have lots of cards and > cameras and whatnot. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 30, 2010

Re: [Wlug] GPS

by Jorden Mauro

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Great idea, but it has an sd card reader built in! I went looking for other expresscards and there don't seem to be too many varieties out there. I guess, as a port, it just couldn't compete with USB. > > It's a lenovo s10, and I really like it. My only complaint is the keyboard > is a little smaller than other netbooks, but other than that it does it all! > > ________________________________ > From: Jorden Mauro <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 4:38:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Wlug] GPS > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> I have a great little Lenovo netbook and I haven't found a good use for >> the >> expresscard 34 slot >> >> I've been researching GPS devices but can't find an ExpressCard 34 style >> GPS >> device. >> >> I could get a normal GPS device with a screen and junk, but that would >> defeat the purpose of my search. >> >> Does anyone have experience with using a laptop with a GPS device? >> >> FYI: I already have maxed out the ram and have a 150gig hard drive, plus a >> webcam and bluetooth...if anyone can think of a better use of the >> Expresscard, I'd like to hear that, too! >> >> Ciao >> > > If it has no SD slot, you can get an expresscard34 multicard reader > for cheap. It's a boon if friends/family/self have lots of cards and > cameras and whatnot. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Jan. 30, 2010

Re: [Wlug] GPS

by Mike Leo

Great idea, but it has an sd card reader built in! It's a lenovo s10, and I really like it. My only complaint is the keyboard is a little smaller than other netbooks, but other than that it does it all! ________________________________ From: Jorden Mauro <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 4:38:53 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] GPS On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I have a great little Lenovo netbook and I haven't found a good use for the > expresscard 34 slot > > I've been researching GPS devices but can't find an ExpressCard 34 style GPS > device. > > I could get a normal GPS device with a screen and junk, but that would > defeat the purpose of my search. > > Does anyone have experience with using a laptop with a GPS device? > > FYI: I already have maxed out the ram and have a 150gig hard drive, plus a > webcam and bluetooth...if anyone can think of a better use of the > Expresscard, I'd like to hear that, too! > > Ciao > If it has no SD slot, you can get an expresscard34 multicard reader for cheap. It's a boon if friends/family/self have lots of cards and cameras and whatnot. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 30, 2010

Re: [Wlug] GPS

by Jorden Mauro

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I have a great little Lenovo netbook and I haven't found a good use for the > expresscard 34 slot > > I've been researching GPS devices but can't find an ExpressCard 34 style GPS > device. > > I could get a normal GPS device with a screen and junk, but that would > defeat the purpose of my search. > > Does anyone have experience with using a laptop with a GPS device? > > FYI: I already have maxed out the ram and have a 150gig hard drive, plus a > webcam and bluetooth...if anyone can think of a better use of the > Expresscard, I'd like to hear that, too! > > Ciao > If it has no SD slot, you can get an expresscard34 multicard reader for cheap. It's a boon if friends/family/self have lots of cards and cameras and whatnot.

Jan. 30, 2010

GPS

by Mike Leo

I have a great little Lenovo netbook and I haven't found a good use for the expresscard 34 slot I've been researching GPS devices but can't find an ExpressCard 34 style GPS device. I could get a normal GPS device with a screen and junk, but that would defeat the purpose of my search. Does anyone have experience with using a laptop with a GPS device? FYI: I already have maxed out the ram and have a 150gig hard drive, plus a webcam and bluetooth...if anyone can think of a better use of the Expresscard, I'd like to hear that, too! Ciao

Jan. 30, 2010

Looking at new and inexpensive laptop for Linux

by joel d

Thank you everyone for all for the comments and suggestions. Joel

Jan. 30, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Looking at new and inexpensive laptop for Linux use.

by Joseph Guarino

Hello Joel/Every1, Have a look see at these 4 HCL sites of Linux compatible hardware: http://www.linux-drivers.org/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/ http://www.linux-drivers.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_compatibility_list - this gives you links to the other distros... They will have mucho details! Besides, half the joy I find in installing is having to hack something to work and helping the software improve for the next person. =) Enjoy the weekend, Joseph Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:48:18 -0500 From: joel d <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Wlug] Looking at new and inexpensive laptop for Linux use. To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Message-ID: <e8ac87841001290948g363a52a8k556b10aca5c858f8(a)mail.gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, I am considering replacing my old broken screen laptop (Pent 350 & 256MB) with a replacement. Does anyone recommendations on $400 to $600 laptops for Linux with a regular 15" or so screen and at least 2-4GB RAM. I am going with a low-spec (and low cost) as I have used the laptop an hour or two a week in the past as for daily use my eyes prefer my desktop's 24" widescreen LCD. In this price range I am mostly finding Netbooks and the occasional low end Acer (newegg). I could handle the speed of a netbook but my older and poor eyes would protest (and the additional RAM cost makes them spendy-ish for what you get). Any recommendations for a new, regular 15" or so standard notebook on the cheap for Linux use (prob. Ubuntu or KUbuntu)? I am thinking my concerns here and hardware compatibility and cost. Thank you, Joel

Jan. 30, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Building a PC for another arch? PPC64?

by Tatsh

Wow, POWER6 is expensive. Looks like if I want this sorta thing my best bet is getting the actual XDK hardware (they are not 100% rare; I've seen several for sale on Scenyx forums). Still, I think I am definitely getting that SheevaPlug. I'll turn that into my proxy server (which I currently use a big, power-hungry desktop for). Thanks for the help guys. On 29 January 2010 13:48, Adam Gomes <adam(a)unixgeek.net> wrote: > :( That's a tall order, actually. The processor in the 360 was made by IBM > especially for the 360 at M$'s request. The closest things you're going to > find in terms of speed (not necessarily # of cores) is going to be systems > based on the 970 (like the Mac G5 or certain IBM blade center boards) or > systems based on the POWER6 which generally only going to be found in IBM > blade centers (js20 goes for around $500 on ebay, and the js22 goes for > around $3,000 on ebay). Today, most PPC cores are found in embedded systems > in things like wireless access points, mobile computing devices, routers, > etcc, and most of them are just 32 bit processors. > > I've seen the G5s go for as little as $300 on ebay, too. > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Tatsh <ddrtist(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Where can I find parts to build a PC based on PPC64? Really, I'd like to >> build >> something similar to the Xbox 360 for development purposes and for fun. It >> seems >> like it's impossible to find the parts though (at least with Google). >> Anyone >> know suppliers? If it's way out of price range I'll step out but I'd like >> to at >> least see where to get this stuff. >> >> This is the hardware, generically: >> http://www.free60.org/Main_Page >> >> Some of it needs specific type, such as the RAM, and etc. The video card >> could >> be any recent ATI HD I'm imagining. The motherboard for this would need >> PCI-extreme slots. >> >> Yes I am aware it has been hacked with JTAG and all. I am not looking to >> hack >> mine. Just to build a similar machine for development where I'll run Linux >> and >> hopefully put together a complete (free, GPL) toolchain. >> >> Thanks >> >> -- >> Tatsh >> www.tatsh.net >> ddrtist(a)gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Jan. 30, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Building a PC for another arch? PPC64?

by Adam Gomes

:( That's a tall order, actually. The processor in the 360 was made by IBM especially for the 360 at M$'s request. The closest things you're going to find in terms of speed (not necessarily # of cores) is going to be systems based on the 970 (like the Mac G5 or certain IBM blade center boards) or systems based on the POWER6 which generally only going to be found in IBM blade centers (js20 goes for around $500 on ebay, and the js22 goes for around $3,000 on ebay). Today, most PPC cores are found in embedded systems in things like wireless access points, mobile computing devices, routers, etcc, and most of them are just 32 bit processors. I've seen the G5s go for as little as $300 on ebay, too. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Tatsh <ddrtist(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Where can I find parts to build a PC based on PPC64? Really, I'd like to > build > something similar to the Xbox 360 for development purposes and for fun. It > seems > like it's impossible to find the parts though (at least with Google). > Anyone > know suppliers? If it's way out of price range I'll step out but I'd like > to at > least see where to get this stuff. > > This is the hardware, generically: > http://www.free60.org/Main_Page > > Some of it needs specific type, such as the RAM, and etc. The video card > could > be any recent ATI HD I'm imagining. The motherboard for this would need > PCI-extreme slots. > > Yes I am aware it has been hacked with JTAG and all. I am not looking to > hack > mine. Just to build a similar machine for development where I'll run Linux > and > hopefully put together a complete (free, GPL) toolchain. > > Thanks > > -- > Tatsh > www.tatsh.net > ddrtist(a)gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 29, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Looking at new and inexpensive laptop for Linux use.

by Richard Klein

I've had my Dell Inspiron 8200 for I don't know how many years now, and I'm still happy with it. I've installed Win2000, WinXP, Win7, debian, Ubuntu, and FreeBSD on it without any significant trouble. It still seems fast enough to me. The 1600x1200 resolution on a 15" screen may be hard for some people to read, and the the USB 1.1 ports are slow. You'd probably be better off buying something new, but I can verify that several flavors of Linux work fine on this model. -- Rich Sent from Southborough, Massachusetts, United States

Jan. 29, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Looking at new and inexpensive laptop for Linux use.

by E Johnson

We just bought a Lenovo G550 from newegg for $499. This has a T4400 dual-core Penitum (2.2 ghz) and it has 4 GB memory with a 15.6" screen. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146706 This unit comes with Windoze7. It looks good & everything works fine so far. Arrived here one day after placing the order. We bought this unit for my roommate's auntie, so unfortunately, we can't do a test install of a Linux distro to report on, but probably you could wipe it and install any flavor of Linux. Would probably run fairly fast if you keep the bloatware to a minimum. At least one person reports that he has this unit set up in dual boot with Ubuntu 9.10: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/lenovo-… Note: 3 years ago when I was in the laptop-buying mode, I originally orederd a Lenovo. At the time, their customer support team was in a foreign country (startc with Ch--) and I was not happy with customer interface. So I went with the Dell at that time. Don't know anything about Lenovo's customer support teams now, though. I have a Dell Inspiron 15n here with similar dual processor, also 15.6 inch screen. Mine came with Ubuntu pre-installed, but it's been running Debian Lenny for quite a while. My Inspiron 15n has less RAM than the Lenovo above, but runs fine in Lenny. You'd be welcome to come out to the house & have a look. Good luck Liz J 2010/1/29 joel d <joelgroup(a)gmail.com>: > Hi all, > > I am considering replacing my old broken screen laptop (Pent 350 & > 256MB) with a replacement. > > Does anyone recommendations on $400 to $600 laptops for Linux with a > regular 15" or so screen and at least 2-4GB RAM. I am going with a > low-spec (and low cost) as I have used the laptop an hour or two a > week in the past as for daily use my eyes prefer my desktop's 24" > widescreen LCD. > > In this price range I am mostly finding Netbooks and the occasional > low end Acer (newegg). I could handle the speed of a netbook but my > older and poor eyes would protest (and the additional RAM cost makes > them spendy-ish for what you get). > > Any recommendations for a new, regular 15" or so standard notebook on > the cheap for Linux use (prob. Ubuntu or KUbuntu)? I am thinking my > concerns here and hardware compatibility and cost. > > Thank you, > > Joel > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 29, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Looking at new and inexpensive laptop for Linux use.

by Tatsh

I know I am gonna get shot for this one. I use an HP G60t series laptop (G60t-243cl). I bought it off eBay (refurbished) for $450. It loves Linux, hates Windows XP (yes I downgraded). I've got everything working on it including the Webcam which is luckily UVC-based. There's no bluetooth on it so I don't have to worry about that (don't really care for that feature). There's also no Firewire (which was a big let down AFTER buying it). 3 USB ports. If you go for a GXX series HP, you might have some good luck. I also use a 24" LCD with my laptop with the HDMI output (it also has VGA). Even audio works through HDMI (pick nvidia HDMI codec in kernel + Conexant Audio for HD)! :) Not going to get shot for this one though: I use Gentoo. joel d wrote: > Hi all, > > I am considering replacing my old broken screen laptop (Pent 350 & > 256MB) with a replacement. > > Does anyone recommendations on $400 to $600 laptops for Linux with a > regular 15" or so screen and at least 2-4GB RAM. I am going with a > low-spec (and low cost) as I have used the laptop an hour or two a > week in the past as for daily use my eyes prefer my desktop's 24" > widescreen LCD. > > In this price range I am mostly finding Netbooks and the occasional > low end Acer (newegg). I could handle the speed of a netbook but my > older and poor eyes would protest (and the additional RAM cost makes > them spendy-ish for what you get). > > Any recommendations for a new, regular 15" or so standard notebook on > the cheap for Linux use (prob. Ubuntu or KUbuntu)? I am thinking my > concerns here and hardware compatibility and cost. > > Thank you, > > Joel > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Tatsh www.tatsh.net ddrtist(a)gmail.com

Jan. 29, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Looking at new and inexpensive laptop for Linux use.

by Adam Keck

HI Joel, There are a lot of off-lease IBM Thinkpad T42s on various retailers for ~300. Some Thinkpad models haven't fared so well, but, if I recall correctly, the T42 is pretty solid. I had a used Thinkpad 600x running Linux for almost 6 years, so a decent Thinkpad can last quite some time. Also, I find T-series Thinkpads easy to fix, since almost everything replaceable has its own faceplate on the bottom and Ebay is full of parts. Driver support for older laptops tends to be better than for brand new ones, as well. If you do want a new Linux model with minimal hassle, Dell sells Inspiron 15n with Ubuntu for ~600. We have been quite happy with our Ubuntu Dell Mini 9 for the past year and half. -Adam On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:48 PM, joel d <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am considering replacing my old broken screen laptop (Pent 350 & > 256MB) with a replacement. > > Does anyone recommendations on $400 to $600 laptops for Linux with a > regular 15" or so screen and at least 2-4GB RAM. I am going with a > low-spec (and low cost) as I have used the laptop an hour or two a > week in the past as for daily use my eyes prefer my desktop's 24" > widescreen LCD. > > In this price range I am mostly finding Netbooks and the occasional > low end Acer (newegg). I could handle the speed of a netbook but my > older and poor eyes would protest (and the additional RAM cost makes > them spendy-ish for what you get). > > Any recommendations for a new, regular 15" or so standard notebook on > the cheap for Linux use (prob. Ubuntu or KUbuntu)? I am thinking my > concerns here and hardware compatibility and cost. > > Thank you, > > Joel > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 29, 2010

Looking at new and inexpensive laptop for Linux use.

by joel d

Hi all, I am considering replacing my old broken screen laptop (Pent 350 & 256MB) with a replacement. Does anyone recommendations on $400 to $600 laptops for Linux with a regular 15" or so screen and at least 2-4GB RAM. I am going with a low-spec (and low cost) as I have used the laptop an hour or two a week in the past as for daily use my eyes prefer my desktop's 24" widescreen LCD. In this price range I am mostly finding Netbooks and the occasional low end Acer (newegg). I could handle the speed of a netbook but my older and poor eyes would protest (and the additional RAM cost makes them spendy-ish for what you get). Any recommendations for a new, regular 15" or so standard notebook on the cheap for Linux use (prob. Ubuntu or KUbuntu)? I am thinking my concerns here and hardware compatibility and cost. Thank you, Joel

Jan. 29, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Building a PC for another arch? PPC64?

by Brian Conway

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010, Tatsh wrote: > Where can I find parts to build a PC based on PPC64? Really, I'd like to build > something similar to the Xbox 360 for development purposes and for fun. It seems > like it's impossible to find the parts though (at least with Google). Anyone > know suppliers? If it's way out of price range I'll step out but I'd like to at > least see where to get this stuff. > It doesn't qualify as "similar to the Xbox 360" or even PC-like, but there are a lot of fun ARM devices on the market these days, many of which are tiny and/or low power, if playing around with other architectures is your goal. SheevaPlug, for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SheevaPlug Brian

Jan. 29, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Building a PC for another arch? PPC64?

by soup

On 1/29/2010 9:25 AM, Tatsh wrote: > Where can I find parts to build a PC based on PPC64? Really, I'd like to build > something similar to the Xbox 360 for development purposes and for fun. It seems > like it's impossible to find the parts though (at least with Google). Anyone > know suppliers? If it's way out of price range I'll step out but I'd like to at > least see where to get this stuff. > > This is the hardware, generically: > http://www.free60.org/Main_Page > > <SNIP> It's probably a lot cheaper to just find a used Intellistation Power machine. You can get them in multiproc configuration. I see them on ebay for a few hundred every now and then and I've seen them at the MIT flea for even cheaper, likely stripped though. Starting from scratch would be rough these days. I think the only other place to get 'inexpensive' boards for such a beast would be the amigaone crowd and there's no way it's going to be super cheap. They were trying to sell G3 and G4-based machines for ridiculous money a few years ago. > Thanks > Good hunting! soup

Jan. 29, 2010

Building a PC for another arch? PPC64?

by Tatsh

Where can I find parts to build a PC based on PPC64? Really, I'd like to build something similar to the Xbox 360 for development purposes and for fun. It seems like it's impossible to find the parts though (at least with Google). Anyone know suppliers? If it's way out of price range I'll step out but I'd like to at least see where to get this stuff. This is the hardware, generically: http://www.free60.org/Main_Page Some of it needs specific type, such as the RAM, and etc. The video card could be any recent ATI HD I'm imagining. The motherboard for this would need PCI-extreme slots. Yes I am aware it has been hacked with JTAG and all. I am not looking to hack mine. Just to build a similar machine for development where I'll run Linux and hopefully put together a complete (free, GPL) toolchain. Thanks -- Tatsh www.tatsh.net ddrtist(a)gmail.com

Jan. 29, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Penetration Tester

by Tal Cohen

It actually is specified, I just didn't include it in the email. Tal PS PCI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Nassar" <nassar(a)alum.wpi.edu> To: "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Penetration Tester > That's certainly a legit reason. :) > > What compliance requires penetration testing but doesn't specify what > test suite to use? > > > Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> wrote: > >> Not to mention, it is a requirment for for certain compliance that I am >> trying to meet :) >> >> Tal > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Penetration Tester

by Nick Nassar

That's certainly a legit reason. :) What compliance requires penetration testing but doesn't specify what test suite to use? Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> wrote: > Not to mention, it is a requirment for for certain compliance that I am > trying to meet :) > > Tal

Jan. 18, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Penetration Tester

by Tal Cohen

Not to mention, it is a requirment for for certain compliance that I am trying to meet :) Tal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Boyce" <gregory.boyce(a)gmail.com> To: "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Penetration Tester >I agree with most of what you're saying except I thinking you're > mixing up vulnerability scanning with pen testing. A good pen tester > will actually demonstrate the vulnerability and can find new issues in > your custom web app code. > > The one benefit of pen testing would be convincing decision makers > that the steps you outlined are necessary. > > On Jan 18, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Nick Nassar <nassar(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > >> Don't bother. It's security theater. >> >> It easy to run automated tests, but the chance it will actually catch >> something that you wouldn't know about by reading the proper security >> mailing lists is negligible. >> >> These days most malware gets in through end users doing stupid things. >> China hacked Google with a phishing attack. There's no completely >> technical solution for that. Educate users as best you can. If >> there's >> sensitive data on your network, make sure only people who need access >> have access. >> >> Assume that your network will be compromised. Have a strategy to >> restore things quickly when that happens. >> >> >> >> Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> wrote: >> >>> I need a penetration tester (individual or firm) to run some tests >>> against my >>> network. >>> >>> Anyone have any recommendations they care to share? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Tal >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 18, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Penetration Tester

by Gregory Boyce

I agree with most of what you're saying except I thinking you're mixing up vulnerability scanning with pen testing. A good pen tester will actually demonstrate the vulnerability and can find new issues in your custom web app code. The one benefit of pen testing would be convincing decision makers that the steps you outlined are necessary. On Jan 18, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Nick Nassar <nassar(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > Don't bother. It's security theater. > > It easy to run automated tests, but the chance it will actually catch > something that you wouldn't know about by reading the proper security > mailing lists is negligible. > > These days most malware gets in through end users doing stupid things. > China hacked Google with a phishing attack. There's no completely > technical solution for that. Educate users as best you can. If > there's > sensitive data on your network, make sure only people who need access > have access. > > Assume that your network will be compromised. Have a strategy to > restore things quickly when that happens. > > > > Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> wrote: > >> I need a penetration tester (individual or firm) to run some tests >> against my >> network. >> >> Anyone have any recommendations they care to share? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Tal >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 18, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Penetration Tester

by Nick Nassar

Don't bother. It's security theater. It easy to run automated tests, but the chance it will actually catch something that you wouldn't know about by reading the proper security mailing lists is negligible. These days most malware gets in through end users doing stupid things. China hacked Google with a phishing attack. There's no completely technical solution for that. Educate users as best you can. If there's sensitive data on your network, make sure only people who need access have access. Assume that your network will be compromised. Have a strategy to restore things quickly when that happens. Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> wrote: > I need a penetration tester (individual or firm) to run some tests against my > network. > > Anyone have any recommendations they care to share? > > Thanks! > > Tal > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 18, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Penetration Tester

by Gregory Boyce

Never hired one myself, but I do know a number of them. Locally Netragard or Rapid 7 certainly have smart people working there. On Jan 15, 2010, at 4:07 PM, "Tal Cohen" <wlug(a)cohen123.com> wrote: > Thanks guys! > > I already run vulnerability scans. I need an actual pen-tester at > this point. > > Tal > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gregory Boyce > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 4:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Penetration Tester > > On Jan 15, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> wrote: > >> On 15/01/2010 21:28, Tal Cohen wrote: >>> >>> I need a penetration tester (individual or firm) to run some tests >>> against my network. >>> >>> Anyone have any recommendations they care to share? >> >> 1st step would be to run nessus (http://www.nessus.org/nessus/) >> and nmap (http://nmap.org/) on your network > >> > > If you're talking about an external network you can also look at > Qualys's free scanning. > > http://www.qualys.com/products/trials > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 15, 2010