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I finally got the GEntoo liveCD running.

by Ken Jones

It took me three hours to figure out that at the ok prompt I am meant to write: ok boot cdrom boot: gentoo-2.4 But I am started! Ken

May 12, 2010

Reminder: WLUG Meeting Wednesday May 12 7PM

by Chuck Anderson

Reminder about tomorrow's WLUG meeting. On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 02:13:41PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Hi folks, > > Our next WLUG meeting is scheduled to be held on Wednesday, May 12 at > 7:00 PM in Morgan Hall at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. > > I'm pleased to announce that Jeff Moyer from Red Hat will be our guest > speaker. He will be giving a talk on Solid-State Drive technology > (SSDs): > > A Complete Guide to SSDs > > This talk explains the inner workings of solid state storage > technology in an easy to understand manner. The innate properties of > NAND flash are discussed in the context of current disk scheduling > methodologies. Benchmark results comparing SSDs and traditional > rotating media are presented. The talk further outlines changes in the > Linux kernel and file system utilities that have been made to > accommodate SSDs, and changes that are on their way. Finally, guidance > is given on practical deployment of SSDs, including file system > creation and mount options, I/O scheduler selection, and answers to > some frequently asked questions. > > I look forward to seeing you there, > Chuck > President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

May 11, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Boy an I out-of-it

by Mike Frysinger

On Tuesday 11 May 2010 18:10:33 Ken Jones wrote: > It is now running Gentoo's bash. Bash has so few commands that I am > feeling helpless. When I try a BOOT from DISC to my gentoo liveCD. The > machine just ejects the disc. bash has very few builtins. most everything is an external command. i think you're confusing these things. > I have eth0 working, but bash does not have a ssh command. Nor is there a > demon sshd lying around. There is no 'locate' command. There is no 'find' > command. these programs are either not in your $PATH, or they arent installed. bash really has nothing to do with it -- it largely just searches your $PATH for the command you typed. Gentoo installs a busybox rescue shell by default which includes a lot of networking type commands. you can access it by running `bb` or `busybox <command>`. > I am very much missing something. What? i really dont know what you're trying to do. if you're having sparc troubles, there's a Gentoo sparc e-mail list and irc channel where sparc peeps hang out. -mike

May 11, 2010

Boy an I out-of-it

by Ken Jones

WLUG folks-> I got my ULTRA1 Creator up and running. I accomplished this by taking my original (Aurora) hard drive out of slot 1 and reinstalled the hard drive that had been there in the first place. When I had the Aurora in slot 1 everything booted and looked perfect for X Windows, but then in the last step it crashed. It is now running Gentoo's bash. Bash has so few commands that I am feeling helpless. When I try a BOOT from DISC to my gentoo liveCD. The machine just ejects the disc. I have eth0 working, but bash does not have a ssh command. Nor is there a demon sshd lying around. There is no 'locate' command. There is no 'find' command. I am very much missing something. What? I now feel challenged. Ken

May 11, 2010

Re: [Wlug] 2.6.20-gentoo-R5

by Mike Frysinger

On Tuesday 11 May 2010 16:27:45 Ken Jones wrote: > I've got my ULTRA1 Creator running 2.6.20-gentoo-R5. > > I am having senior moments. Too long since I have command line LINUX'd. > Even longer since I have bash'd. > > My terminal display is different colors between files and directories which > I do not like. > > Where is that defined? when your current terminal ($TERM) matches a valid entry in your /etc/DIR_COLORS database (or ~/.dir_colors), Gentoo's global bashrc will set up LS_COLORS via `dircolors` as well as create an ls alias that enables colors by default. easiest thing is to create your own ls alias in ~/.bashrc or simply unalias it echo 'unalias ls 2>/dev/null || :' >> ~/.bashrc -mike

May 11, 2010

Re: [Wlug] 2.6.20-gentoo-R5

by Brett Russ

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > My terminal display is different colors between files and directories which > I do not like. > > Where is that defined? Quick fix to verify is try these commands: alias ls # will show if it's using an alias which forces colors unalias ls # will disable it in the current shell -BR

May 11, 2010

Re: [Wlug] 2.6.20-gentoo-R5

by Clint Moyer

I think you're talking about environmental variable LS_COLORS. ---- Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: ============= I've got my ULTRA1 Creator running 2.6.20-gentoo-R5. I am having senior moments. Too long since I have command line LINUX'd. Even longer since I have bash'd. My terminal display is different colors between files and directories which I do not like. Where is that defined? I will have many questions over the next couple of days. Please be forewarned. Ken Jones _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 11, 2010

Re: [Wlug] 2.6.20-gentoo-R5

by Strazdas, Rich

http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Ls should help. Scroll down to Customize colors. It's been a while since I've dealt with this, too! Rich Strazdas -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Ken Jones Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:28 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] 2.6.20-gentoo-R5 I've got my ULTRA1 Creator running 2.6.20-gentoo-R5. I am having senior moments. Too long since I have command line LINUX'd. Even longer since I have bash'd. My terminal display is different colors between files and directories which I do not like. Where is that defined? I will have many questions over the next couple of days. Please be forewarned. Ken Jones _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Warning, information subject to export control laws. The information contained within this email may be subject to the International Traffic in Arms Regulation (ITAR) or the Export Administration Regulations (EAR). This information shall not be exported, released, or disclosed to foreign nationals inside or outside the United States without first complying with the export authorization requirements of the ITAR and/or the EAR. This e-mail message is generated from Coghlin Companies Inc. or one of its subsidiaries including, but not limited to, Columbia Electrical Contractors, Inc. d/b/a Columbia Tech; DCI Automation, Inc.d/b/a DCI Engineering Services; Cogmedix, Inc.; and Coghlin Precision, Inc. This message may contain information that is CONFIDENTIAL, and may also possibly contain information that is being held as a Trade Secret. The information is intended to be disclosed solely to the addressee(s). If you are the intended recipient, any information herein is to be held as CONFIDENTIAL pursuant to any Non-Disclosure Agreement applicable between the parties, or as a Trade Secret as applicable. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this e-mail information is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete it from your computer system.

May 11, 2010

Re: [Wlug] 2.6.20-gentoo-R5

by Clint Moyer

I think you're talking about environmental variable LS_COLORS. ---- Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: ============= I've got my ULTRA1 Creator running 2.6.20-gentoo-R5. I am having senior moments. Too long since I have command line LINUX'd. Even longer since I have bash'd. My terminal display is different colors between files and directories which I do not like. Where is that defined? I will have many questions over the next couple of days. Please be forewarned. Ken Jones _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 11, 2010

2.6.20-gentoo-R5

by Ken Jones

I've got my ULTRA1 Creator running 2.6.20-gentoo-R5. I am having senior moments. Too long since I have command line LINUX'd. Even longer since I have bash'd. My terminal display is different colors between files and directories which I do not like. Where is that defined? I will have many questions over the next couple of days. Please be forewarned. Ken Jones

May 11, 2010

Re: [Wlug] OMG this thing was expensive

by Mike Peckar

This sparked my curiosity, so I looked up the original list price for the HP 9000 J210 running HPUX someone on this list gave me nearly 10 years ago (and I still use occasionally). I found specs for a similar unit that had half as much disk (2GB), only one 120MHZ CPU vs. the 2 on mine and 1/4 the RAM (64MB)... That beast listed for $85,380 in 1996. Wow indeed. Mike

May 10, 2010

Re: [Wlug] How do I identify the DSIMM sizes?

by Ken Jones

NEVER MIND - I got it. 501-2622 is a 32Meg DSIMM. I found it in microprint on a card and I found it referenced in the ULTRA1 Creator Service Manual Thanks for being there. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Jones To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Cc: John Stoffel Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:42 PM Subject: How do I identify the DSIMM sizes? There seems to be no identification markings on the DSIMM cards. I know they come in 4Meg and 16Meg sizes (at least). I have two kinds of cards. One has all 18 memory DIPs on one side. The other has ten on one side and eight on the other. The SUN Service Manuals give not hint on identifying anything. (Even the model of the whole unit as far as I can figure.) Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Jones To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Cc: John Stoffel Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 2:18 PM Subject: OMG this thing was expensive Hello again, I've finally gotten around to fixing my SPARC ULTRA 1 machine. It's cpu fan is fried. I have a SPARC ULTRA 1 CREATOR that works with UBUNTU linux but I never got X-WINDOWS working on it. The working SPARC has been my home file server for all these many years. It had Aurora Linux with X all working fine. I figured I would do some swapping. Although the outsides are identical the two machines differ inside. The CREATOR has no cpu fan - just cooling fins. Good, I guess. I had no Service Manuals for either machine so I went to Wikipedia. It has the manuals. It also said, "The Ultra 1 Creator3D 170E launched in November 1995 with a list price of US$27,995." WOW!! QUESTION: If I move from the ULTRA1 to the ULTRA1 CREATOR the SIMMs in bank one and the hard drive should everything come up per before the crash? Thanks for thinking about this. Twenty Seven Thousand Bucks WOW!! Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14950) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 10, 2010

How do I identify the DSIMM sizes?

by Ken Jones

There seems to be no identification markings on the DSIMM cards. I know they come in 4Meg and 16Meg sizes (at least). I have two kinds of cards. One has all 18 memory DIPs on one side. The other has ten on one side and eight on the other. The SUN Service Manuals give not hint on identifying anything. (Even the model of the whole unit as far as I can figure.) Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Jones To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Cc: John Stoffel Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 2:18 PM Subject: OMG this thing was expensive Hello again, I've finally gotten around to fixing my SPARC ULTRA 1 machine. It's cpu fan is fried. I have a SPARC ULTRA 1 CREATOR that works with UBUNTU linux but I never got X-WINDOWS working on it. The working SPARC has been my home file server for all these many years. It had Aurora Linux with X all working fine. I figured I would do some swapping. Although the outsides are identical the two machines differ inside. The CREATOR has no cpu fan - just cooling fins. Good, I guess. I had no Service Manuals for either machine so I went to Wikipedia. It has the manuals. It also said, "The Ultra 1 Creator3D 170E launched in November 1995 with a list price of US$27,995." WOW!! QUESTION: If I move from the ULTRA1 to the ULTRA1 CREATOR the SIMMs in bank one and the hard drive should everything come up per before the crash? Thanks for thinking about this. Twenty Seven Thousand Bucks WOW!! Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14950) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 10, 2010

Re: [Wlug] OMG this thing was expensive

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Ken" == Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> writes: Ken> I've finally gotten around to fixing my SPARC ULTRA 1 machine. Ken> It's cpu fan is fried. I have a SPARC ULTRA 1 CREATOR that works Ken> with UBUNTU linux but I never got X-WINDOWS working on it. The Ken> working SPARC has been my home file server for all these many Ken> years. It had Aurora Linux with X all working fine. I figured I Ken> would do some swapping. Ken> Although the outsides are identical the two machines differ Ken> inside. The CREATOR has no cpu fan - just cooling fins. Good, I Ken> guess. I had no Service Manuals for either machine so I went to Ken> Wikipedia. It has the manuals. It also said, "The Ultra 1 Ken> Creator3D 170E launched in November 1995 with a list price of Ken> US$27,995." WOW!! Heh, I'm not suprised. We had an Encore Multimax at WPI way back when. $250k when it arrived (24 processors, 64Mb of RAM) and when it left three years later, we sold it for $25k. Talk about depreciation! Ken> QUESTION: If I move from the ULTRA1 to the ULTRA1 CREATOR the Ken> SIMMs in bank one and the hard drive should everything come up Ken> per before the crash? Probably. The only real difference is the graphics card in there, and that you're going up 30Mhz in speed to 170Mhz. Blinding. Again, I'd probably start seriously thiniing about moving to newer hardware, esp since you can get stuff without any moving parts which will be so much faster. But hey, I understand the joy of old hardware that just runs and runs and runs... Ken> Thanks for thinking about this. Twenty Seven Thousand Bucks WOW!! Thank you Mr. Moore!

May 9, 2010

OMG this thing was expensive

by Ken Jones

Hello again, I've finally gotten around to fixing my SPARC ULTRA 1 machine. It's cpu fan is fried. I have a SPARC ULTRA 1 CREATOR that works with UBUNTU linux but I never got X-WINDOWS working on it. The working SPARC has been my home file server for all these many years. It had Aurora Linux with X all working fine. I figured I would do some swapping. Although the outsides are identical the two machines differ inside. The CREATOR has no cpu fan - just cooling fins. Good, I guess. I had no Service Manuals for either machine so I went to Wikipedia. It has the manuals. It also said, "The Ultra 1 Creator3D 170E launched in November 1995 with a list price of US$27,995." WOW!! QUESTION: If I move from the ULTRA1 to the ULTRA1 CREATOR the SIMMs in bank one and the hard drive should everything come up per before the crash? Thanks for thinking about this. Twenty Seven Thousand Bucks WOW!! Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14950) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 9, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Meeting Wednesday May 12 7PM

by Doug Chamberlin

On 5/6/2010 10:31 PM, Frank Sweetser wrote: > That's quite a collection - maybe we should only raffle away two or > three per meeting to make 'em last? Maybe. As long as someone else takes them home from this meeting. After all, my goal is to be rid of them. ;) I'll leave it up to Chuck how to handle it.

May 7, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Meeting Wednesday May 12 7PM

by Frank Sweetser

On 5/6/2010 10:25 PM, Doug Chamberlin wrote: > I'll be bringing about 30 technical books I'm giving away for free. > Not sure how to handle it but maybe a raffle to determine order in which > they are taken. > Nothing fancy. Just trying to be fair. > Not that these will cause a mad rush or anything. > Anyway, here's a picture of them: > http://s754.photobucket.com/albums/xx181/greymont/?action=view&current=Avai… That's quite a collection - maybe we should only raffle away two or three per meeting to make 'em last? -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

May 7, 2010

Meeting Wednesday May 12 7PM

by Doug Chamberlin

I'll be bringing about 30 technical books I'm giving away for free. Not sure how to handle it but maybe a raffle to determine order in which they are taken. Nothing fancy. Just trying to be fair. Not that these will cause a mad rush or anything. Anyway, here's a picture of them: http://s754.photobucket.com/albums/xx181/greymont/?action=view&current=Avai…

May 7, 2010

Re: [Wlug] My SUN ULTRA ONE died!

by John Stoffel

So Ken, What did you end up doing with your Ultra 1? John

May 6, 2010

Announce: WLUG Meeting Wednesday May 12 7PM

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, Our next WLUG meeting is scheduled to be held on Wednesday, May 12 at 7:00 PM in Morgan Hall at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. I'm pleased to announce that Jeff Moyer from Red Hat will be our guest speaker. He will be giving a talk on Solid-State Drive technology (SSDs): A Complete Guide to SSDs This talk explains the inner workings of solid state storage technology in an easy to understand manner. The innate properties of NAND flash are discussed in the context of current disk scheduling methodologies. Benchmark results comparing SSDs and traditional rotating media are presented. The talk further outlines changes in the Linux kernel and file system utilities that have been made to accommodate SSDs, and changes that are on their way. Finally, guidance is given on practical deployment of SSDs, including file system creation and mount options, I/O scheduler selection, and answers to some frequently asked questions. I look forward to seeing you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

May 4, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Looking for a linux tablet

by Ryan Pugatch

They're now reporting that the Slate may be dead because of crappy Win7 performance - http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/30/hp-slate-killed-rumor-mill-says-yes/ On 04/22/2010 09:24 AM, Jared Greenwald wrote: > Not to interject, but there was a note on Engadget today about some > leak that the NYT got wind of from HP that they will be coming out > with Android and Linux based slate devices in the months after the > initial slate (running Win7) comes out (no timeframe was actually > given, though). > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:20 PM, soup<soupforare(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> How's it's no-phone mother, the N810? I've been waiting for the Pandora >> to happen but it doesn't look like I'm going to see it this decade. The >> 810s are getting nice and cheap lately. >> >> Take care, >> soup >> >> On 4/21/2010 2:21 PM, Randall Mason wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Jorden Mauro<jrm8005(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> N900 is nice, but small >>>> >>>> >>> I think I said that... >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 30, 2010

Re: [Wlug] My SUN ULTRA ONE died!

by John Stoffel

Ken> My SUN ULTRA ONE has stopped altogether. Scrap it. Have you looked at the prices people want on ebay for parts? Ken> It had turned itself off a month or so ago. When I hit the ON Ken> switch the little green light came on for a moment then went off. Ken> I figured a fan or something of that nature had died. Pull the cover and check the CPU fan to make sure it spins. They had an early history of dying, but all my experience is 10+ years old in terms of working on the,/ Ken> Today I got ready to work on it. Now nothing happens. Ken> Absolutely nothing when I push the ON switch. Pull the cover, what do you see? Did you blow out all the dust? Look for a fuse as well in the PS, though it might be buried. Ken> I have a running spare ULTRA ONE for parts. I suppose I have to Ken> start by swapping the power supplies, but I was hoping you guys Ken> would tell me about a fuse - or something. I'd probably just swap the power supplies first, then once I had the old one out, I'd look for a fuse. I honestly don't recall it being user serviceable though. It was probably pretty buried inside. But in any case, for the power and cost, you can do much better today. John

April 29, 2010

Re: [Wlug] My SUN ULTRA ONE died!

by Richard Klein

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Help!! > > My SUN ULTRA ONE has stopped altogether. > > It had turned itself off a month or so ago. When I hit the ON switch the > little green light came on for a moment then went off. I figured a fan or > something of that nature had died. > > Today I got ready to work on it. Now nothing happens. Absolutely nothing > when I push the ON switch. > > I have a running spare ULTRA ONE for parts. I suppose I have to start by > swapping the power supplies, but I was hoping you guys would tell me about > a fuse - or something. It sounds like the power supply to me, but the Apple PowerMacs had a bit of circuitry behind the power button that introduced another potential failure point. Maybe your Sun has something like that that you could check, first? -- Rich

April 28, 2010

My SUN ULTRA ONE died!

by Ken Jones

Help!! My SUN ULTRA ONE has stopped altogether. It had turned itself off a month or so ago. When I hit the ON switch the little green light came on for a moment then went off. I figured a fan or something of that nature had died. Today I got ready to work on it. Now nothing happens. Absolutely nothing when I push the ON switch. I have a running spare ULTRA ONE for parts. I suppose I have to start by swapping the power supplies, but I was hoping you guys would tell me about a fuse - or something. Ken Jones (Fitchburg) E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.14790 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

April 28, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Looking for a linux tablet

by Jared Greenwald

Not to interject, but there was a note on Engadget today about some leak that the NYT got wind of from HP that they will be coming out with Android and Linux based slate devices in the months after the initial slate (running Win7) comes out (no timeframe was actually given, though). On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:20 PM, soup <soupforare(a)gmail.com> wrote: > How's it's no-phone mother, the N810? I've been waiting for the Pandora > to happen but it doesn't look like I'm going to see it this decade. The > 810s are getting nice and cheap lately. > > Take care, > soup > > On 4/21/2010 2:21 PM, Randall Mason wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Jorden Mauro<jrm8005(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> N900 is nice, but small >>> >>> >> I think I said that... >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 22, 2010