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Re: [Wlug] Need a bigger ULTRA1 disk

by John Stoffel

Ken> I have down loaded the six CD Fedora-12-sparc-beta-disc.iso set. Ken> It appears to be about 3.4 Gig. That is about the size of the Ken> hard drive on which I had hoped to install it. Ken> Anybody know where I could get a bigger ULTRA sparc64 compatible Ken> hard drive? I might have some, since I assume it's just an SCA SCSI drive? Is it the oval connector, like most SUN drives from that era were? I've got a 36G Ultra SCSI drive sitting on my desk right now. Not sure if it's working or not though... John Ken> ======= Ken> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. Ken> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15020) Ken> http://www.pctools.com/ Ken> ======= Ken> _______________________________________________ Ken> Wlug mailing list Ken> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Ken> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 21, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Klein <richspk(a)gmail.com> writes: Richard> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:38 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: >>>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Klein <richspk(a)gmail.com> writes: >> Richard> I think DEC had a big facility along route 70 in Lancaster Richard> (near route 2) that was sold to Mass. Youth Soccer. That's Richard> right near Leominster. >> >> Umm... Rt 70 runs from Worcester out to Clinton and beyond. The >> facility you're thinking about is in Boylston, and it now the town >> hall, etc. >> >> Now I know this 'cause I live in Boylston. :] Richard> Heh. I live in Clinton. Route 70 does, in fact, run through Richard> Lancaster, where it's also called Lunenburg Rd. It's right Richard> by Norm Wagner Toyota: Richard> http://maps.google.com/maps?cid=0,0,5185522724830873118 (I Richard> elided the bits of the URL that I though were irrelevant. It Richard> still works for me, but may not for you.) Heh, you're right! I'm just too focused on my own little stretch of 70 I guess. I don't get up there at all very often. Richard> I guess Lancaster would be part of "beyond". :) Sorta like how when I grew up in NY, anything above the Tappan Zee bridge was "upstate" to me. :]

May 21, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by John Stoffel

Jorden> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Gary Hanley <gary(a)hanley.net> wrote: >> Doug C. Says, >> >>> Yes, VMS rocked. Best OS ever, IMO. >> >> Naa. AOS/VS wiped the floor with VMS. ;-) Jorden> Plan 9 > * Jorden> Too bad it can hardly browse the web. Heh, I've got a pristine boxed copy of Plan9 sitting on my shelves, just the day I decide to fire up a VM and have it running and useable. Now that would be neat to do. John

May 21, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Need a bigger ULTRA1 disk

by Adam Gomes

Actually some models of the Ultra sparcs used IDE disks. For example, my Ultra 10 uses IDE disks, and any IDE disk would work. I believe that the Ultra 60 was also IDE based. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:14 AM, jbaillie(a)netzero.com <jbaillie(a)netzero.com > wrote: > If you are talking 68 pin I may be able to help you out with a disk. It > probably has a generic firmware on it. I don't know if that makes a > difference to your situ. > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)ziplink.net> > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Subject: [Wlug] Need a bigger ULTRA1 disk > Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 22:56:34 -0400 > > Hello again, > > I have down loaded the six CD Fedora-12-sparc-beta-disc.iso set. It > appears to be about 3.4 Gig. That is about the size of the hard drive on > which I had hoped to install it. > > Anybody know where I could get a bigger ULTRA sparc64 compatible hard > drive? > > Ken > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15020) > http://www.pctools.com<http://www.pctools.com/?cclick=EmailFooterClean_51> > ======= > > ____________________________________________________________ > *Refinance Now 4.0% FIXED!* > $160,000 Mortgage for $633/mo. Free. No Obligation. Get 4 Quotes! > <http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3232/4bf69580c22af5bdf5st02duc> > Mortgage.LendGo.com<http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3232/4bf69580c22af5bdf5st02duc> > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 21, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Need a bigger ULTRA1 disk

by jbaillie＠netzero.com

If you are talking 68 pin I may be able to help you out with a disk. It probably has a generic firmware on it. I don't know if that makes a difference to your situ. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)ziplink.net> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Subject: [Wlug] Need a bigger ULTRA1 disk Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 22:56:34 -0400 Hello again, I have down loaded the six CD Fedora-12-sparc-beta-disc.iso set. It appears to be about 3.4 Gig. That is about the size of the hard drive on which I had hoped to install it. Anybody know where I could get a bigger ULTRA sparc64 compatible hard drive? Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15020) http://www.pctools.com ======= ____________________________________________________________ Refinance Now 4.0% FIXED! $160,000 Mortgage for $633/mo. Free. No Obligation. Get 4 Quotes! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4bf69580c22af5bdf5st02duc

May 21, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Need a bigger ULTRA1 disk

by Justin St. Marie

I believe the UltraSPARCs were SCSI disks. You can probably find some of those on ebay real cheap. I could be wrong, though....and judging from the mails over the last few days I bet other people here will be able to correct that. Might as well take this time to introduce myself... My name is Justin St. Marie. I live in Worcester and have been using linux for years, but only for about a year professionally. I do what I can, but I am far from an expert in any *nix environment. I am a RHCT, hopefully able to pass the RHCE in a few months...we'll see... When is the next meeting? The website only said where it was, that I saw. On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Hello again, > > I have down loaded the six CD Fedora-12-sparc-beta-disc.iso set. It > appears to be about 3.4 Gig. That is about the size of the hard drive on > which I had hoped to install it. > > Anybody know where I could get a bigger ULTRA sparc64 compatible hard > drive? > > Ken > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15020) > http://www.pctools.com<http://www.pctools.com/?cclick=EmailFooterClean_51> > ======= > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Justin St. Marie, RHCT Systems Engineer

May 21, 2010

Need a bigger ULTRA1 disk

by Ken Jones

Hello again, I have down loaded the six CD Fedora-12-sparc-beta-disc.iso set. It appears to be about 3.4 Gig. That is about the size of the hard drive on which I had hoped to install it. Anybody know where I could get a bigger ULTRA sparc64 compatible hard drive? Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15020) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 21, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by Richard Klein

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:38 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: >>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Klein <richspk(a)gmail.com> writes: > > Richard> I think DEC had a big facility along route 70 in Lancaster > Richard> (near route 2) that was sold to Mass. Youth Soccer. That's > Richard> right near Leominster. > > Umm... Rt 70 runs from Worcester out to Clinton and beyond. The > facility you're thinking about is in Boylston, and it now the town > hall, etc. > > Now I know this 'cause I live in Boylston. :] Heh. I live in Clinton. Route 70 does, in fact, run through Lancaster, where it's also called Lunenburg Rd. It's right by Norm Wagner Toyota: http://maps.google.com/maps?cid=0,0,5185522724830873118 (I elided the bits of the URL that I though were irrelevant. It still works for me, but may not for you.) I guess Lancaster would be part of "beyond". :) -- Rich

May 20, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Progress - hardware issues...

by Mike Frysinger

On Thursday 13 May 2010 17:00:28 Ken Jones wrote: > I fail to see the difference between the minimal and the universal versions > once they are installed. that's because there is no difference just like the documentation explains: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-sparc.xml?part=1&chap=2 -mike

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by Jorden M

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Gary Hanley <gary(a)hanley.net> wrote: > Doug C. Says, > >> Yes, VMS rocked. Best OS ever, IMO. > > Naa. AOS/VS wiped the floor with VMS. ;-) Plan 9 > * Too bad it can hardly browse the web. > > But really, those OSes were great at the time but I can't image ever > wanting to return to them. Linux and any UNIX is just so much more > efficient, functional and fun. > > -- Gary > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by Gary Hanley

Doug C. Says, > Yes, VMS rocked. Best OS ever, IMO. Naa. AOS/VS wiped the floor with VMS. ;-) But really, those OSes were great at the time but I can't image ever wanting to return to them. Linux and any UNIX is just so much more efficient, functional and fun. -- Gary

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Klein <richspk(a)gmail.com> writes: Richard> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:28 PM, David Hardy <belovedbold357(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I don't have any old DEC equipment anymore, but I started my so-called IT >> career on a PDP-11 out in gorgeous Gardner, MA back in 1986. It ran RSX for >> an engineering CAD/CAM shop and we also had a VAX 780 running VMS 3.5. Last >> version of VMS I've worked with was 7.1, right here in Wormtown. I love >> Linux but I have to say I also was in love with VMS. >> Rumor had it, back in '89, that there was a field somewhere off Route 12 in >> Leominster, where DEC had dumped loads and loads of equipment, including >> computers, printers, cables, you-name-it. One of my operators when I was a >> sys admin at DEC Marlborough at that time had his front yard filled with >> that stuff, and the weather allegedly had no effect on any of it. >> I would imagine by now that the field, if it ever existed, is now a condo >> development or a semi-abandoned strip mall. >> Cheers from South Woostuh! Richard> I think DEC had a big facility along route 70 in Lancaster Richard> (near route 2) that was sold to Mass. Youth Soccer. That's Richard> right near Leominster. Umm... Rt 70 runs from Worcester out to Clinton and beyond. The facility you're thinking about is in Boylston, and it now the town hall, etc. Now I know this 'cause I live in Boylston. :]

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by Doug Chamberlin

On 5/19/2010 2:02 PM, Adam Gomes wrote: > I too retain a fondness for VMS. Which is why, even though I had > Debian running on my VaxStation 3100, I still went back to OpenVMS > (despite the need to buy an annual software license). Yes, VMS rocked. Best OS ever, IMO. Based on energy inefficiency alone I just cannot justify firing up one of these machines to run it. I sure wish HP would stop with the Itanium-only strategy and come out with a version running on AMD-64 chips! I'd get a hobbiest license if they did that. -- Doug C. ----- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by Adam Gomes

I too retain a fondness for VMS. Which is why, even though I had Debian running on my VaxStation 3100, I still went back to OpenVMS (despite the need to buy an annual software license). On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:28 PM, David Hardy <belovedbold357(a)gmail.com>wrote: > I don't have any old DEC equipment anymore, but I started my so-called IT > career on a PDP-11 out in gorgeous Gardner, MA back in 1986. It ran RSX for > an engineering CAD/CAM shop and we also had a VAX 780 running VMS 3.5. Last > version of VMS I've worked with was 7.1, right here in Wormtown. I love > Linux but I have to say I also was in love with VMS. > > Rumor had it, back in '89, that there was a field somewhere off Route 12 in > Leominster, where DEC had dumped loads and loads of equipment, including > computers, printers, cables, you-name-it. One of my operators when I was a > sys admin at DEC Marlborough at that time had his front yard filled with > that stuff, and the weather allegedly had no effect on any of it. > > I would imagine by now that the field, if it ever existed, is now a condo > development or a semi-abandoned strip mall. > > Cheers from South Woostuh! > > > > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > >> Send Wlug mailing list submissions to >> wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Success - antique linux on antique SPARC (Ken Jones) >> 2. Re: Success - antique linux on antique SPARC (Jorden Mauro) >> 3. Re: Success - antique linux on antique SPARC (Doug Chamberlin) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 22:02:40 -0400 >> From: "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)ziplink.net> >> Subject: [Wlug] Success - antique linux on antique SPARC >> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >> Message-ID: <94F4CAE4ED0C4AC0BB1660AF1C3A9586@kjonespc> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> I tried and tried. I fdisk'd. I setenv'd boot-device. I tried to study >> and learn. GENTOO just would not stick. >> >> I found in my CD pile a five disk set of AURORA 2.4.20-2.3sparc64 dated >> Jan 15, 2003. It installed. It does KDE. I can see all my old "lost" >> files. Hurray!! >> >> Anybody have a DEC PDP10 for us senior citizens to play with? >> >> Ken Jones >> >> >> >> ======= >> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14960) >> http://www.pctools.com/ >> ======= >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20100518/2c82159f/attachmen… >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 07:35:45 -0400 >> From: Jorden Mauro <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Success - antique linux on antique SPARC >> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >> Cc: "<wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >> Message-ID: <52DB5519-B9DE-47AE-9DC6-FE7E2899906A(a)gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> On May 18, 2010, at 10:02 PM, "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: >> >> > I tried and tried. I fdisk'd. I setenv'd boot-device. I tried to >> > study and learn. GENTOO just would not stick. >> > >> > I found in my CD pile a five disk set of AURORA 2.4.20-2.3sparc64 >> > dated Jan 15, 2003. It installed. It does KDE. I can see all my >> > old "lost" files. Hurray!! >> > >> > Anybody have a DEC PDP10 for us senior citizens to play with? >> >> 'fraid even the computer history museum is still looking for parts to >> get one that can boot. >> >> You can run v7 Unix in a special pdp11 VM for old time sake, though. >> It even has a working version of Ken's chess. >> >> If anyone knows PDP assembly, I'd love to see that program ported into >> the 21st century. >> >> > >> > Ken Jones >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ======= >> > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14960) >> > http://www.pctools.com >> > ======= >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20100519/0644a5bb/attachmen… >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:09:12 -0400 >> From: Doug Chamberlin <dougchamberlin(a)earthlink.net> >> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Success - antique linux on antique SPARC >> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> Message-ID: <4BF3D4E8.9080303(a)earthlink.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> On 5/18/2010 10:02 PM, Ken Jones wrote: >> > Anybody have a DEC PDP10 for us senior citizens to play with? >> No, but I have two Dec Alpha systems looking for a good home. >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20100519/9ba9f378/attachmen… >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> End of Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9 >> *********************************** >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by Richard Klein

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:28 PM, David Hardy <belovedbold357(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I don't have any old DEC equipment anymore, but I started my so-called IT > career on a PDP-11 out in gorgeous Gardner, MA back in 1986. It ran RSX for > an engineering CAD/CAM shop and we also had a VAX 780 running VMS 3.5. Last > version of VMS I've worked with was 7.1, right here in Wormtown. I love > Linux but I have to say I also was in love with VMS. > Rumor had it, back in '89, that there was a field somewhere off Route 12 in > Leominster, where DEC had dumped loads and loads of equipment, including > computers, printers, cables, you-name-it. One of my operators when I was a > sys admin at DEC Marlborough at that time had his front yard filled with > that stuff, and the weather allegedly had no effect on any of it. > I would imagine by now that the field, if it ever existed, is now a condo > development or a semi-abandoned strip mall. > Cheers from South Woostuh! I think DEC had a big facility along route 70 in Lancaster (near route 2) that was sold to Mass. Youth Soccer. That's right near Leominster. -- Rich

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by David Hardy

I don't have any old DEC equipment anymore, but I started my so-called IT career on a PDP-11 out in gorgeous Gardner, MA back in 1986. It ran RSX for an engineering CAD/CAM shop and we also had a VAX 780 running VMS 3.5. Last version of VMS I've worked with was 7.1, right here in Wormtown. I love Linux but I have to say I also was in love with VMS. Rumor had it, back in '89, that there was a field somewhere off Route 12 in Leominster, where DEC had dumped loads and loads of equipment, including computers, printers, cables, you-name-it. One of my operators when I was a sys admin at DEC Marlborough at that time had his front yard filled with that stuff, and the weather allegedly had no effect on any of it. I would imagine by now that the field, if it ever existed, is now a condo development or a semi-abandoned strip mall. Cheers from South Woostuh! On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Success - antique linux on antique SPARC (Ken Jones) > 2. Re: Success - antique linux on antique SPARC (Jorden Mauro) > 3. Re: Success - antique linux on antique SPARC (Doug Chamberlin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 22:02:40 -0400 > From: "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)ziplink.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Success - antique linux on antique SPARC > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <94F4CAE4ED0C4AC0BB1660AF1C3A9586@kjonespc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I tried and tried. I fdisk'd. I setenv'd boot-device. I tried to study > and learn. GENTOO just would not stick. > > I found in my CD pile a five disk set of AURORA 2.4.20-2.3sparc64 dated Jan > 15, 2003. It installed. It does KDE. I can see all my old "lost" files. > Hurray!! > > Anybody have a DEC PDP10 for us senior citizens to play with? > > Ken Jones > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14960) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20100518/2c82159f/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 07:35:45 -0400 > From: Jorden Mauro <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Success - antique linux on antique SPARC > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Cc: "<wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <52DB5519-B9DE-47AE-9DC6-FE7E2899906A(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On May 18, 2010, at 10:02 PM, "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > > > I tried and tried. I fdisk'd. I setenv'd boot-device. I tried to > > study and learn. GENTOO just would not stick. > > > > I found in my CD pile a five disk set of AURORA 2.4.20-2.3sparc64 > > dated Jan 15, 2003. It installed. It does KDE. I can see all my > > old "lost" files. Hurray!! > > > > Anybody have a DEC PDP10 for us senior citizens to play with? > > 'fraid even the computer history museum is still looking for parts to > get one that can boot. > > You can run v7 Unix in a special pdp11 VM for old time sake, though. > It even has a working version of Ken's chess. > > If anyone knows PDP assembly, I'd love to see that program ported into > the 21st century. > > > > > Ken Jones > > > > > > > > > > > > ======= > > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14960) > > http://www.pctools.com > > ======= > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20100519/0644a5bb/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:09:12 -0400 > From: Doug Chamberlin <dougchamberlin(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Success - antique linux on antique SPARC > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <4BF3D4E8.9080303(a)earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On 5/18/2010 10:02 PM, Ken Jones wrote: > > Anybody have a DEC PDP10 for us senior citizens to play with? > No, but I have two Dec Alpha systems looking for a good home. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20100519/9ba9f378/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9 > *********************************** >

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Success - antique linux on antique SPARC

by Doug Chamberlin

On 5/18/2010 10:02 PM, Ken Jones wrote: > Anybody have a DEC PDP10 for us senior citizens to play with? No, but I have two Dec Alpha systems looking for a good home.

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Success - antique linux on antique SPARC

by Jorden Mauro

On May 18, 2010, at 10:02 PM, "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > I tried and tried. I fdisk'd. I setenv'd boot-device. I tried to > study and learn. GENTOO just would not stick. > > I found in my CD pile a five disk set of AURORA 2.4.20-2.3sparc64 > dated Jan 15, 2003. It installed. It does KDE. I can see all my > old "lost" files. Hurray!! > > Anybody have a DEC PDP10 for us senior citizens to play with? 'fraid even the computer history museum is still looking for parts to get one that can boot. You can run v7 Unix in a special pdp11 VM for old time sake, though. It even has a working version of Ken's chess. If anyone knows PDP assembly, I'd love to see that program ported into the 21st century. > > Ken Jones > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14960) > http://www.pctools.com > ======= > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 19, 2010

Success - antique linux on antique SPARC

by Ken Jones

I tried and tried. I fdisk'd. I setenv'd boot-device. I tried to study and learn. GENTOO just would not stick. I found in my CD pile a five disk set of AURORA 2.4.20-2.3sparc64 dated Jan 15, 2003. It installed. It does KDE. I can see all my old "lost" files. Hurray!! Anybody have a DEC PDP10 for us senior citizens to play with? Ken Jones ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14960) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] OMG this thing was expensive

by William Smith

Note to self: Don't drink coffee at laptop when reading messages like these... :\ On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:47 AM, Mike Peckar <fog(a)fognet.com> wrote: > This sparked my curiosity, so I looked up the original list price for the HP > 9000 J210 running HPUX someone on this list gave me nearly 10 years ago (and > I still use occasionally). I found specs for a similar unit that had half as > much disk (2GB), only one 120MHZ CPU vs. the 2 on mine and 1/4 the RAM > (64MB)... That beast listed for $85,380 in 1996. > > Wow indeed. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Bill Smith Fall River, MA

May 15, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Progress - hardware issues...

by Chuck Anderson

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 05:00:28PM -0400, Ken Jones wrote: > I used to run Aurora, but the old mirror sights seem to have disappeared. I > have my old five CD aurora disc set, but the CD drive coughs it out when I > try to boot to it. Aurora has become part of the Fedora "secondary architectures" project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/SPARC

May 13, 2010

Progress - hardware issues...

by Ken Jones

Again, Thank you all for being there. My SUN ULTRA 1 Creator had some hardware problems. Its CDROM reader was intermittent. That explained the problem getting GENTOO liveCD disks to work. Now, I have three GENTOO liveCD's. They all boot. ------------------------ One has a printed label. I must have gotten in by snail mail. The label says: GENTOO Linux/2004/sparc64/CD1 Sparc64 Installation Disc 'uname' says it is: liveCD 2.4-gentoo-r2 (I think) Inside is documentation. The most recent date is July 2004. ----------------------------- install-sparc64-minimal-2006.1.iso 'uname' says it is: liveCD 2.6.17-gentoo-r5 ----------------------------- install-sparc64-universal-2006.1.iso 'uname' says it too is: liveCD 2.6.17-gentoo-r5 ----------------------------- I fail to see the difference between the minimal and the universal versions once they are installed. I want a 'real' installation. Not one running off my cdrom drive. I thought that somehow these minimal and universal versions would show me the way. I used to run Aurora, but the old mirror sights seem to have disappeared. I have my old five CD aurora disc set, but the CD drive coughs it out when I try to boot to it. I have saved the files on that hard drive that I had been using as a server. I would like to get the ULTRA running GNOME or KDE, but I am getting a bit lost. A suggestion would be appreciated. Ken

May 13, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: WLUG Meeting Wednesday May 12 7PM

by James Gray

As you might expect WPI has directions available online. http://www.wpi.edu/about/visitors/directions.html http://www.wpi.edu/about/visitors/campusmap.html I've parked several different WPI parking lots and never received any sort of ticket during the evening. (I did get one when I came to hear RMS speak, which was during the day). We usually meet in building H (Morgan Hall) on the campus map. There is a field up and to the right of that building on the map you can see it is criss-crossed by walk ways. There are parking spaces along the perimeter of this field. I usually park here there are usually a few free spaces. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM, <kstratton(a)fastmail.us> wrote: > Could somebody provide an address/parking advice and how to get to the > Morgan Hall? > > Today's topic looks like it might be worth the drive. I have not been > to a meeting yet. > > > On Tue, 11 May 2010 19:06 -0400, "Chuck Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: >> Reminder about tomorrow's WLUG meeting. >> >> On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 02:13:41PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: >> > Hi folks, >> > >> > Our next WLUG meeting is scheduled to be held on Wednesday, May 12 at >> > 7:00 PM in Morgan Hall at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. >> > >> > I'm pleased to announce that Jeff Moyer from Red Hat will be our guest >> > speaker. He will be giving a talk on Solid-State Drive technology >> > (SSDs): >> > >> > A Complete Guide to SSDs >> > >> > This talk explains the inner workings of solid state storage >> > technology in an easy to understand manner. The innate properties of >> > NAND flash are discussed in the context of current disk scheduling >> > methodologies. Benchmark results comparing SSDs and traditional >> > rotating media are presented. The talk further outlines changes in the >> > Linux kernel and file system utilities that have been made to >> > accommodate SSDs, and changes that are on their way. Finally, guidance >> > is given on practical deployment of SSDs, including file system >> > creation and mount options, I/O scheduler selection, and answers to >> > some frequently asked questions. >> > >> > I look forward to seeing you there, >> > Chuck >> > President, Worcester Linux Users' Group >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug@mail">Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > -- > > kstratton(a)fastmail.us > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 12, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: WLUG Meeting Wednesday May 12 7PM

by kstratton＠fastmail.us

Could somebody provide an address/parking advice and how to get to the Morgan Hall? Today's topic looks like it might be worth the drive. I have not been to a meeting yet. On Tue, 11 May 2010 19:06 -0400, "Chuck Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > Reminder about tomorrow's WLUG meeting. > > On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 02:13:41PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > Our next WLUG meeting is scheduled to be held on Wednesday, May 12 at > > 7:00 PM in Morgan Hall at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. > > > > I'm pleased to announce that Jeff Moyer from Red Hat will be our guest > > speaker. He will be giving a talk on Solid-State Drive technology > > (SSDs): > > > > A Complete Guide to SSDs > > > > This talk explains the inner workings of solid state storage > > technology in an easy to understand manner. The innate properties of > > NAND flash are discussed in the context of current disk scheduling > > methodologies. Benchmark results comparing SSDs and traditional > > rotating media are presented. The talk further outlines changes in the > > Linux kernel and file system utilities that have been made to > > accommodate SSDs, and changes that are on their way. Finally, guidance > > is given on practical deployment of SSDs, including file system > > creation and mount options, I/O scheduler selection, and answers to > > some frequently asked questions. > > > > I look forward to seeing you there, > > Chuck > > President, Worcester Linux Users' Group > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug@mail">Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- kstratton(a)fastmail.us

May 12, 2010

Re: [Wlug] I finally got the GEntoo liveCD running.

by Mike Frysinger

On Tuesday 11 May 2010 23:40:08 Ken Jones wrote: > It took me three hours to figure out that at the ok prompt I am meant to > write: > > ok boot cdrom > boot: gentoo-2.4 seems to me that this is spelled out clearly in the sparc handbook: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-sparc.xml?part=1&chap=2 -mike

May 12, 2010