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Re: [Wlug] 232-TTL, locally?

by Adam Gomes

How "local"? Is Pawtucket, RI too far for you? Jabour Electronics might have one, but I'm not sure if that's any closer to you than you-do-it. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Tom Misilo <tmisilo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If you cannot find anything locally, I would recommend picking up this: > > http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9718 > > It is a USB cable with a built in FTDI Chip. Very good support for > Linux and Windows alike. > > They also make cables that can be found at www.mouser.com that do not > have the 6pin .1 header, but bare tinned wires. > > Tom > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:03 PM, soup <soupforare(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Anyone know of a hobby/electronics shop where I could get a 232-TTL > > dongle, board or kit? Even just a bare MAX232 IC would be cool. > > I don't want to have to drive up to you-do-it, that's the only place I > > can think of that's left... > > > > Take care, > > soup > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 27, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Please indulge me.

by Justin St. Marie

Came across this.... old sun stuff not too far away (Lawrence) http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/sys/1753114433.html On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:22 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Jorden> You have to admit yellow and orange would be cooler than the > Jorden> gray and desaturated purple, though. > > And pithy saying like "Four wheels, no brakes!" on the car. I guess > on the sun you could have... umm... "256Mb, no Swap!" or something > equally silly. > > But yes, please don't let me stop you! I ran em myslef for years. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Justin St. Marie, RHCT Systems Engineer

May 27, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Please indulge me.

by John Stoffel

Jorden> You have to admit yellow and orange would be cooler than the Jorden> gray and desaturated purple, though. And pithy saying like "Four wheels, no brakes!" on the car. I guess on the sun you could have... umm... "256Mb, no Swap!" or something equally silly. But yes, please don't let me stop you! I ran em myslef for years. John

May 27, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Please indulge me.

by Jorden M

You have to admit yellow and orange would be cooler than the gray and desaturated purple, though. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > When I was teenager a Model T Ford was an old car. My friend bought one for > $25. He painted it yellow and orange, cranked it up and rode it around town > with his girl friend in the passenger's seat and a case of beer in the > rumble seat. Some years later we realized how much fun that was. > > Same's true for computers. > > Disclaimer ==> I have not tampered with SUN's choice of color scheme. > > Ken > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 27, 2010

Please indulge me.

by Ken Jones

When I was teenager a Model T Ford was an old car. My friend bought one for $25. He painted it yellow and orange, cranked it up and rode it around town with his girl friend in the passenger's seat and a case of beer in the rumble seat. Some years later we realized how much fun that was. Same's true for computers. Disclaimer ==> I have not tampered with SUN's choice of color scheme. Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 27, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Two more questions....

by Eric Martin

On 05/25/10 21:14, Ken Jones wrote: > My goal is to get Fedora 12-Beta up and running on my ULTRA1 Sparc. When I > tried installing it the system did not like my DISC 1. > > 1. I would like to check the checksums on the six CD's that I made from > your fedora 12-Beta source. I read that the only way is to shutdown, do > "STOP a" and type "Linux mediacheck". My system does not recognize the > "Linux mediacheck" command. Is there no way to do this operation from > within a running Aurora system? > > 2. I have checked. I really have two identical Aurora systems on my two > hard drives. The older one on the 17Gig drive from the ULTRA1 that died > does not boot correctly. The newer version on the 3.4 Gig disk is from last > week's successful installation of that same antique five CD .iso set. That > new installation had to be limited because of a problem with a language file > supporting emacs. > > I would like to be running a modern Aurora, but still keep my archive files. > Any suggestions for a plan of action would be greatly appreciated. > > Ken Jones > > Ken > That was my only SPARC box so I'm lost on how to do anything without it, sorry. John mentioned silo which sounds right though. I know you're trying to boot Aurora but check the Gentoo Docs, they have some awesome stuff on Sparcs that can be easy interpolated for any OS.

May 26, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Two more questions....

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "John" == John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> writes: John> These days, as you've discovered, the cost of keeping them John> running has just gotten too high. You'll be better off with an John> x86 machine now days with IDE or SATA drives. But don't let me stop you from doing this! It can certainly be a fun project and being able to use a Serial Console makes management of these boxes much nicer than most x86 servers you find, even today. John

May 26, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Two more questions....

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Ken" == Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> writes: Ken> My goal is to get Fedora 12-Beta up and running on my ULTRA1 Sparc. When I Ken> tried installing it the system did not like my DISC 1. Ken> 1. I would like to check the checksums on the six CD's that I made from Ken> your fedora 12-Beta source. I read that the only way is to shutdown, do Ken> "STOP a" and type "Linux mediacheck". My system does not recognize the Ken> "Linux mediacheck" command. Is there no way to do this operation from Ken> within a running Aurora system? I think you'll first need to boot into SILO, then do the 'linux mediacheck' command. Try googling for 'silo mediacheck' and see what it gets you. Ken> 2. I have checked. I really have two identical Aurora systems Ken> on my two hard drives. The older one on the 17Gig drive from the Ken> ULTRA1 that died does not boot correctly. The newer version on Ken> the 3.4 Gig disk is from last week's successful installation of Ken> that same antique five CD .iso set. That new installation had to Ken> be limited because of a problem with a language file supporting Ken> emacs. Ken> I would like to be running a modern Aurora, but still keep my Ken> archive files. Any suggestions for a plan of action would be Ken> greatly appreciated. Personally, the cost/performance/value of Sparc for me has completely gone out the window. And this is from a guy who had and used some ancient Sparc boxes (god, now I can't even remember the model), ah, I see. It was probably a SparcClassic, one of the little square suckers. Slow, but you could stack em up and run linux on them pretty well. Too limited in terms of memory though... These days, as you've discovered, the cost of keeping them running has just gotten too high. You'll be better off with an x86 machine now days with IDE or SATA drives. Good luck! John

May 26, 2010

Re: [Wlug] One more question.

by Eric Martin

usually its .profile or .csh_profile or something to that effect. Like james said, google is your friend. Also, chances are you're using bash so its .bashrc eric On May 25, 2010 10:04 PM, "James Gray" <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Which configuration process... For bash you can add the commands to set these variables for bash in .bashrc if you use a different shell you'll need to edit a different file. Google should be able to help you with this. You can set variables system wide (all users) by editing /etc/profile (or at least that is where ubuntu puts it). Thanks! _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlu...

May 26, 2010

Re: [Wlug] One more question.

by James Gray

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Which configuration process creates the environmental variables? For bash you can add the commands to set these variables for bash in .bashrc if you use a different shell you'll need to edit a different file. Google should be able to help you with this. You can set variables system wide (all users) by editing /etc/profile (or at least that is where ubuntu puts it). Thanks!

May 26, 2010

One more question.

by Ken Jones

Which configuration process creates the environmental variables? I want to permanently add to my PATH. Presently I do it every time I logon. Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 26, 2010

Two more questions....

by Ken Jones

My goal is to get Fedora 12-Beta up and running on my ULTRA1 Sparc. When I tried installing it the system did not like my DISC 1. 1. I would like to check the checksums on the six CD's that I made from your fedora 12-Beta source. I read that the only way is to shutdown, do "STOP a" and type "Linux mediacheck". My system does not recognize the "Linux mediacheck" command. Is there no way to do this operation from within a running Aurora system? 2. I have checked. I really have two identical Aurora systems on my two hard drives. The older one on the 17Gig drive from the ULTRA1 that died does not boot correctly. The newer version on the 3.4 Gig disk is from last week's successful installation of that same antique five CD .iso set. That new installation had to be limited because of a problem with a language file supporting emacs. I would like to be running a modern Aurora, but still keep my archive files. Any suggestions for a plan of action would be greatly appreciated. Ken Jones Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 26, 2010

Eric, this is the one.

by Ken Jones

Yes, Eric, this is the ULTRA 1 Creator you gave me. It had been my backup machine. Now it is center stage. Seems to be doing fine. My problems have been with installing a modern version of Aurora. Previously it had been running Gentoo without X. Thanks. Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 25, 2010

Re: [Wlug] I was all mixed up.

by Eric Martin

Hey Ken, is that the Ultra I gave you? I think those are SCA adapters (hotswap style) On 05/24/10 12:19, Ken Jones wrote: > My ULTRA1 hard drives do not have a separate four pin power connector. > That's the CD drive. > > Here's what one of my hard drives says: > > Seagate Barracuda > Model ST32171WC > > It has a connector with about 76 pins. They are too small for me to count > accurately. > > ---------------------------------------- > > I have decided to stick with my present installation of a 2004 Aurora > package on my 3.2 Gig disk. I can mount my old Linux disk so I can get at > the files I wish to preserve. I can even back them up. I think I can RPM > some newer versions from the WEB. I have a brand new Fedora 12 Beta > packages disk that refused to load. Checksum?? Gotta get Md5sum going... > > Thank you for all your support and tell me when you get a PDP10 or 11 > working. Inputting from punched paper telegraph tape will bring back > memories. > > Ken > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 24, 2010

Re: [Wlug] I was all mixed up.

by Richard Klein

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > My ULTRA1 hard drives do not have a separate four pin power connector. > That's the CD drive. > > Here's what one of my hard drives says: > > Seagate Barracuda > Model ST32171WC > > It has a connector with about 76 pins. They are too small for me to count > accurately. I think 80 pins is the closest SCSI standard, if I recall correctly. I think I have a drive that would work, if I can just remember to look for it when I get home... -- Rich

May 24, 2010

I was all mixed up.

by Ken Jones

My ULTRA1 hard drives do not have a separate four pin power connector. That's the CD drive. Here's what one of my hard drives says: Seagate Barracuda Model ST32171WC It has a connector with about 76 pins. They are too small for me to count accurately. ---------------------------------------- I have decided to stick with my present installation of a 2004 Aurora package on my 3.2 Gig disk. I can mount my old Linux disk so I can get at the files I wish to preserve. I can even back them up. I think I can RPM some newer versions from the WEB. I have a brand new Fedora 12 Beta packages disk that refused to load. Checksum?? Gotta get Md5sum going... Thank you for all your support and tell me when you get a PDP10 or 11 working. Inputting from punched paper telegraph tape will bring back memories. Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 24, 2010

Re: [Wlug] mine has a separate power cord

by John Stoffel

Ken> Thanks, Chuck, for noting the two variations. Yeah, thanks. I know that a bunch of suns use the SCA connector. I think the Ultra 2 uses it for the two hot swap bays on the side. Ken> My ULTRA 1 has an oval connector with 68 (I did not count them) Ken> pins and a separate four wire power cord. Actually, now that I'm more aware (though heading to sleep soon!) my 36Gb disk has the 4 pin Molex for power, and the 68 pin SCSI3 connector. It's an LVD/SE, so it *might* work on your Sun Ultra 1. Oh yeah, the connector isn't oval like I quickly thought, it's more like this: -------------------------------- \ / \ / ---------------------------- So you should double check. I'd be happy to pass on the drive, not knowing whether it works or not though. I'm in Boylston. Though not around until later Sunday afternoon. Ken> ======= Ken> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. Ken> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) Ken> http://www.pctools.com/ Ken> ======= Ken> _______________________________________________ Ken> Wlug mailing list Ken> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Ken> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 23, 2010

mine has a separate power cord

by Ken Jones

Thanks, Chuck, for noting the two variations. My ULTRA 1 has an oval connector with 68 (I did not count them) pins and a separate four wire power cord. Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 22, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Need a bigger SCSI disk

by Chuck Anderson

On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 10:14:11AM -0400, Ken Jones wrote: > Yes this is one of those oval connectors. It is designated as sdb > which (I always thought) means the second SCSI drive disk. I'd be > glad to take a drive to where ever you are for a 35Gig drive. Does it have a separate power connector? There are actually two kinds of "oval" connectors, 68-pin and 80-pin. The 68-pin ones are SCSI only, no power. Those drives use a separate 4-pin molex power connector. The 80-pin ones are known as SCA, Single Connector Attachment, and the extra pins provide power among other things (SCSI ID configuration pins). They are designed for hot-swap disk array shelves. -- - Chuck (291 Days until IPv4 depletion: http://ipv4depletion.com/)

May 22, 2010

Need a bigger SCSI disk

by Ken Jones

John, Yes this is one of those oval connectors. It is designated as sdb which (I always thought) means the second SCSI drive disk. I'd be glad to take a drive to where ever you are for a 35Gig drive. Ken

May 22, 2010

Re: [Wlug] 232-TTL, locally?

by Tom Misilo

If you cannot find anything locally, I would recommend picking up this: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9718 It is a USB cable with a built in FTDI Chip. Very good support for Linux and Windows alike. They also make cables that can be found at www.mouser.com that do not have the 6pin .1 header, but bare tinned wires. Tom On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:03 PM, soup <soupforare(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Anyone know of a hobby/electronics shop where I could get a 232-TTL > dongle, board or kit? Even just a bare MAX232 IC would be cool. > I don't want to have to drive up to you-do-it, that's the only place I > can think of that's left... > > Take care, > soup > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 22, 2010

232-TTL, locally?

by soup

Anyone know of a hobby/electronics shop where I could get a 232-TTL dongle, board or kit? Even just a bare MAX232 IC would be cool. I don't want to have to drive up to you-do-it, that's the only place I can think of that's left... Take care, soup

May 22, 2010

Systems Administrator position available at TripAdvisor in Newton

by Ryan Pugatch

TripAdvisor is looking for a mid- to senior-level Systems Administrator who will join a team of two systems administrators to support, maintain, and enhance a rapidly growing IT infrastructure that spans across the globe and serves roughly 350 employees worldwide. We are not your typical Windows / Active Directory / Exchange shop. Our servers are primarily Linux (CentOS) with a handful running Windows. We tend to prefer open solutions that we can take off the shelf and adapt to our needs, but we are not wedded to a particular OS or vendor. We aim for the solution that makes the most sense. We utilize Zimbra for mail, Asterisk for telephony, OpenLDAP instead of Active Directory, and Samba for our domain controllers and file sharing—all on Linux servers. To be successful in this role you will: - Have strong troubleshooting skills and a diagnostic intuition - Be a self-starter. If you don’t know how to do something you consider it a challenge to try to figure it out for yourself - Have a genuine desire to learn and expand your skill set You will have demonstrated experience with: - Linux systems administration (especially Red Hat variants) - Windows systems administration - Samba - OpenLDAP - Mail server administration - Server virtualization - Scripting (especially perl and bash) - Networking (especially Cisco PIX, ASA and IOS) Duties and Responsibilities include: - Racking and installing servers - Troubleshooting network and server hardware and software problems - Maintaining network infrastructure including switches and firewalls - Maintaining patch management and endpoint security - Assisting with SAN management - Handling escalated helpdesk support tickets - Participating in a 24x7 on-call emergency pager SAN administration experience is highly desired. Experience with Zimbra or Compellent storage equipment is a plus. Please email me directly if you have any questions. You can apply via https://careers.peopleclick.com/careerscp/client_expedia/external_tripadvis… Thanks, Ryan

May 21, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by Jorden M

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:37 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Jorden> Plan 9 > * > > Jorden> Too bad it can hardly browse the web. > > Heh, I've got a pristine boxed copy of Plan9 sitting on my shelves, > just the day I decide to fire up a VM and have it running and > useable. Now that would be neat to do. > 9vx provides a pre-packaged lightweight Plan 9 VM that possibly integrates better with the host system than an older, unpatched shrink-wrapped copy in a VM. Just FYI. Personally, I'd keep it in the box just for nostalgia. Maybe you could make a tag that reads: The OS That Should Have Won But Didn't. Oh well. Back to GNU and Firefox...

May 21, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Need a bigger ULTRA1 disk

by John Stoffel

Adam> Actually some models of the Ultra sparcs used IDE disks. For Adam> example, my Ultra 10 uses IDE disks, and any IDE disk would Adam> work. I believe that the Ultra 60 was also IDE based. Yup, Ultra 5/10 (same motherboard, difference cases) used IDE. I *think* the U60 is SCSI based, like the U80 (same motherboard as 420R, different cases). You might be thinking of the U30/40 being IDE based. John

May 21, 2010