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Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by Tim Keller

off even! On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I can't speak to mythtv since it's been a very long time since I played > with it, but I recently had to switch from the DirecTivo the Directv DVR and > I have to say, I'm rather NOT impressed. > > It's very laggy (press a button, wait 1/2 a second to respond) > > Skippy... you see it on things like cartoons... it'll skip ahead 1/2 a > second... very loud blips... > > I know this is just me whinny, but in the dark, I find that the remote just > sucks. It's bulky and there's approximately 10 more buttons then you really > want. Plus the buttons are laid out in such a way that you can't just grab > the remote the remote and know how your hand is placed on it... > > Oh yeah... get of my lawn! > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:51 AM, brad <bkn(a)ithryn.net> wrote: > >> On Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:07:15 AM joel d wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I am re-working our TV to HDTV currently and trying to decide on a DVR. >> > Currently I use Charter's DVR and not impressed with their DVR >> > layout/features. >> > >> > Currently I am looking at either the DirectTV whole house DVR option >> > or building a Myth DVR box(s). >> > >> > Not sure I want to bite off the Myth though due to needing 2 machines, >> > tuner card, and chunks of my time (vs turnkey for an "appliance"). >> > >> Why would you need 2 machines? >> >> > I have read the docs at MythTV website but am asking current Myth users: >> > >> > 1) Others are running for Myth hardware (front and back end specs) >> > >> I have an HVR-1600 and HVR-2250. >> >> > 2) Any estimates on install startup hours and monthly maintenance hours. >> > >> This is very dependent on how you plan to use it, and if others plan to >> use >> it. I don't watch a lot of TV but i do have it record a few programs. >> >> Install Hours: Significant time commitment is usually needed. I know that >> configuring the remote was most difficult for me. This information is >> coming from >> almost two years ago, when i last installed. >> >> Month maintenance Hours: less than an hour, typically. >> >> > 3) Any tips for a quick & smooth Myth install in late 2011 >> > >> I use ubuntu with mythtv packages. I'm also running 10.04 since upgrading >> can >> be a major headache; so i try to stick with the Long Term releases. >> >> > My current plans include a video source of HD via satellite from Dish >> > or DirectTV and am leaning towards a Samsung 55" LCD/LED set. >> > >> Getting HD on mythtv can be a little difficult sometimes, depending on >> your >> cable provider. Don't expect to be able to simple connect the coax to your >> MythTv tuner and get all the channels since many of them (typically all of >> them except broadcast channels) are scrambled and you need to run though >> the >> cablebox to unscramble. I currently have the cable box output connected to >> my >> MythTv box and a firewire cable connected from my MythTv box to the >> cablebox to >> change channels. It works fine, but i can't watch and record something at >> the >> same time on non-broadcast channels. >> >> > I got the impression around three years ago that Myth was a "techie >> > time intensive" thing to setup and run. >> > I could be all wet on that impression or it may have changed. >> > >> Things are getting easier to setup. It especially helps if you have an >> HDTV >> with a VGA 15pin or DVI input. As i said above the remote control is often >> times a headache. >> >> All this being said. Since i have the know-how, i much prefer my mythtv >> over >> any cable company's DVR. >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 15, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by Tim Keller

I can't speak to mythtv since it's been a very long time since I played with it, but I recently had to switch from the DirecTivo the Directv DVR and I have to say, I'm rather NOT impressed. It's very laggy (press a button, wait 1/2 a second to respond) Skippy... you see it on things like cartoons... it'll skip ahead 1/2 a second... very loud blips... I know this is just me whinny, but in the dark, I find that the remote just sucks. It's bulky and there's approximately 10 more buttons then you really want. Plus the buttons are laid out in such a way that you can't just grab the remote the remote and know how your hand is placed on it... Oh yeah... get of my lawn! On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:51 AM, brad <bkn(a)ithryn.net> wrote: > On Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:07:15 AM joel d wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am re-working our TV to HDTV currently and trying to decide on a DVR. > > Currently I use Charter's DVR and not impressed with their DVR > > layout/features. > > > > Currently I am looking at either the DirectTV whole house DVR option > > or building a Myth DVR box(s). > > > > Not sure I want to bite off the Myth though due to needing 2 machines, > > tuner card, and chunks of my time (vs turnkey for an "appliance"). > > > Why would you need 2 machines? > > > I have read the docs at MythTV website but am asking current Myth users: > > > > 1) Others are running for Myth hardware (front and back end specs) > > > I have an HVR-1600 and HVR-2250. > > > 2) Any estimates on install startup hours and monthly maintenance hours. > > > This is very dependent on how you plan to use it, and if others plan to use > it. I don't watch a lot of TV but i do have it record a few programs. > > Install Hours: Significant time commitment is usually needed. I know that > configuring the remote was most difficult for me. This information is > coming from > almost two years ago, when i last installed. > > Month maintenance Hours: less than an hour, typically. > > > 3) Any tips for a quick & smooth Myth install in late 2011 > > > I use ubuntu with mythtv packages. I'm also running 10.04 since upgrading > can > be a major headache; so i try to stick with the Long Term releases. > > > My current plans include a video source of HD via satellite from Dish > > or DirectTV and am leaning towards a Samsung 55" LCD/LED set. > > > Getting HD on mythtv can be a little difficult sometimes, depending on your > cable provider. Don't expect to be able to simple connect the coax to your > MythTv tuner and get all the channels since many of them (typically all of > them except broadcast channels) are scrambled and you need to run though > the > cablebox to unscramble. I currently have the cable box output connected to > my > MythTv box and a firewire cable connected from my MythTv box to the > cablebox to > change channels. It works fine, but i can't watch and record something at > the > same time on non-broadcast channels. > > > I got the impression around three years ago that Myth was a "techie > > time intensive" thing to setup and run. > > I could be all wet on that impression or it may have changed. > > > Things are getting easier to setup. It especially helps if you have an HDTV > with a VGA 15pin or DVI input. As i said above the remote control is often > times a headache. > > All this being said. Since i have the know-how, i much prefer my mythtv > over > any cable company's DVR. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 15, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by brad

On Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:07:15 AM joel d wrote: > Hi, > > I am re-working our TV to HDTV currently and trying to decide on a DVR. > Currently I use Charter's DVR and not impressed with their DVR > layout/features. > > Currently I am looking at either the DirectTV whole house DVR option > or building a Myth DVR box(s). > > Not sure I want to bite off the Myth though due to needing 2 machines, > tuner card, and chunks of my time (vs turnkey for an "appliance"). > Why would you need 2 machines? > I have read the docs at MythTV website but am asking current Myth users: > > 1) Others are running for Myth hardware (front and back end specs) > I have an HVR-1600 and HVR-2250. > 2) Any estimates on install startup hours and monthly maintenance hours. > This is very dependent on how you plan to use it, and if others plan to use it. I don't watch a lot of TV but i do have it record a few programs. Install Hours: Significant time commitment is usually needed. I know that configuring the remote was most difficult for me. This information is coming from almost two years ago, when i last installed. Month maintenance Hours: less than an hour, typically. > 3) Any tips for a quick & smooth Myth install in late 2011 > I use ubuntu with mythtv packages. I'm also running 10.04 since upgrading can be a major headache; so i try to stick with the Long Term releases. > My current plans include a video source of HD via satellite from Dish > or DirectTV and am leaning towards a Samsung 55" LCD/LED set. > Getting HD on mythtv can be a little difficult sometimes, depending on your cable provider. Don't expect to be able to simple connect the coax to your MythTv tuner and get all the channels since many of them (typically all of them except broadcast channels) are scrambled and you need to run though the cablebox to unscramble. I currently have the cable box output connected to my MythTv box and a firewire cable connected from my MythTv box to the cablebox to change channels. It works fine, but i can't watch and record something at the same time on non-broadcast channels. > I got the impression around three years ago that Myth was a "techie > time intensive" thing to setup and run. > I could be all wet on that impression or it may have changed. > Things are getting easier to setup. It especially helps if you have an HDTV with a VGA 15pin or DVI input. As i said above the remote control is often times a headache. All this being said. Since i have the know-how, i much prefer my mythtv over any cable company's DVR.

Sept. 15, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by James Gray

If you are concerned with the amount of setup time you might want to check out http://www.mythbuntu.org/ I haven't used it personally. It looks they've automated much of the setup process. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:07 AM, joel d <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I am re-working our TV to HDTV currently and trying to decide on a DVR. > Currently I use Charter's DVR and not impressed with their DVR layout/features. > > Currently I am looking at either the DirectTV whole house DVR option > or building a Myth DVR box(s). > > Not sure I want to bite off the Myth though due to needing 2 machines, > tuner card, and chunks of my time (vs turnkey for an "appliance"). > > I have read the docs at MythTV website but am asking current Myth users: > > 1) Others are running for Myth hardware (front and back end specs) > > 2) Any estimates on install startup hours and monthly maintenance hours. > > 3) Any tips for a quick & smooth Myth install in late 2011 > > My current plans include a video source of HD via satellite from Dish > or DirectTV and am leaning towards a Samsung 55" LCD/LED set. > > I got the impression around three years ago that Myth was a "techie > time intensive" thing to setup and run. > I could be all wet on that impression or it may have changed. > > Thank you, > > Joel > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Sept. 15, 2011

Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by joel d

Hi, I am re-working our TV to HDTV currently and trying to decide on a DVR. Currently I use Charter's DVR and not impressed with their DVR layout/features. Currently I am looking at either the DirectTV whole house DVR option or building a Myth DVR box(s). Not sure I want to bite off the Myth though due to needing 2 machines, tuner card, and chunks of my time (vs turnkey for an "appliance"). I have read the docs at MythTV website but am asking current Myth users: 1) Others are running for Myth hardware (front and back end specs) 2) Any estimates on install startup hours and monthly maintenance hours. 3) Any tips for a quick & smooth Myth install in late 2011 My current plans include a video source of HD via satellite from Dish or DirectTV and am leaning towards a Samsung 55" LCD/LED set. I got the impression around three years ago that Myth was a "techie time intensive" thing to setup and run. I could be all wet on that impression or it may have changed. Thank you, Joel

Sept. 15, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: WLUG Meeting Tonight 7PM: IPv6

by Eric Martin

I really wanted to go to this but I can't, too much homework. On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Sorry for the late reminder. Please join us tonight for a talk about > IPv6! > > On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 08:48:46AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > Our next WLUG meeting is Wednesday, September 14 at 7:00 PM at the WPI > > campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall > > (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of > > the dining hall entrance. > > > > [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf > > > > This month, I'll be giving a talk on Internet Protocol Version 6, > > including basics of how it works, how to configure it on various > > systems, and various issues & benefits to using IPv6. > > > > After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. > > > > See you all there, > > Chuck > > President, Worcester Linux Users' Group > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Eric Martin

Sept. 14, 2011

Reminder: WLUG Meeting Tonight 7PM: IPv6

by Chuck Anderson

Sorry for the late reminder. Please join us tonight for a talk about IPv6! On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 08:48:46AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Hi folks, > Our next WLUG meeting is Wednesday, September 14 at 7:00 PM at the WPI > campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall > (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of > the dining hall entrance. > > [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf > > This month, I'll be giving a talk on Internet Protocol Version 6, > including basics of how it works, how to configure it on various > systems, and various issues & benefits to using IPv6. > > After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. > > See you all there, > Chuck > President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

Sept. 14, 2011

Announce: WLUG Meeting 9/14 7PM: IPv6

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, Our next WLUG meeting is Wednesday, September 14 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf This month, I'll be giving a talk on Internet Protocol Version 6, including basics of how it works, how to configure it on various systems, and various issues & benefits to using IPv6. After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. See you all there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

Sept. 9, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Drive cage recommendations?

by John Stoffel

Tim> I'd say it's a choice between the two iStarUSA units. Do you Tim> want hot swappable or not? I'd *like* hot swappable, but it's not required. But it would be nice. I've got four hidden 3.5" bays inside the system I can use as well, so I'm not too limited spacewise. Tim> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:23 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: >> >> Guys, >> >> I'm looking to add one or more of those 2x5.25" bay to 3x3.5" disk >> cages to my main file server, which is a CoolerMaster Centurion 534 >> case, which has tabs in between each 5.25" bay to help hold things in >> place. I thought about the 3x5.25 -> 4/5x3.5" expanders, but since I >> have four free 5.25" slots, it makes more sense to use a pair of >> 2x5.25"->3x3.5" cages. Plus most of the larger expanders won't work >> with tabs in the case. >> >> Part of my criteria is: cost, quiet cooling fan, durability of sleds, >> SATA III support, abitily to replace the cooling fan if it's too >> loud. >> >> So here's my top four choices. The IcyDock is the most expensive by >> far. Not sure I'd go for it... sorta leaning towards the iStarUSA >> models. The Norco has no reviews on newegg, so I'm leary of it. >> >> iStarUSA BPN-DE230SS-BLACK 2 x 5.25" to 3 x 3.5" SAS/SATA Trayless >> Hot-Swap Cage - OEM >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816215240 >> >> iStarUSA BPU-230SATA-BPL 2x5.25" to 3x3.5" SAS/SATA 6.0 Gb/s Hot-Swap >> Cage - Lockable >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121912 >> >> NORCO SS-300 3 Bay 3.5" SATA/SAS Hot Swap Rack Module >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816133050 >> >> ICY DOCK MB453IPF-B 3 in 2 3.5' SATA I & II Hot-Swap Internal >> Backplane Raid Cage Module >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994052 >> >> >> And a fall back model which should work just fine in my case, and >> which is really cheap, but takes up three 5.25" bays to hold 4 drives >> and isn't hot swappable... >> >> COOLER MASTER STB-3T4-E3-GP 4-in-3 Device Module Hardisk Cage >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817993002 >> >> Thanks, >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> Tim> -- Tim> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their Tim> constituents as "consumers". Tim> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim> _______________________________________________ Tim> Wlug mailing list Tim> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Tim> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug --

Sept. 7, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Drive cage recommendations?

by Tim Keller

I'd say it's a choice between the two iStarUSA units. Do you want hot swappable or not? On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:23 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Guys, > > I'm looking to add one or more of those 2x5.25" bay to 3x3.5" disk > cages to my main file server, which is a CoolerMaster Centurion 534 > case, which has tabs in between each 5.25" bay to help hold things in > place. I thought about the 3x5.25 -> 4/5x3.5" expanders, but since I > have four free 5.25" slots, it makes more sense to use a pair of > 2x5.25"->3x3.5" cages. Plus most of the larger expanders won't work > with tabs in the case. > > Part of my criteria is: cost, quiet cooling fan, durability of sleds, > SATA III support, abitily to replace the cooling fan if it's too > loud. > > So here's my top four choices. The IcyDock is the most expensive by > far. Not sure I'd go for it... sorta leaning towards the iStarUSA > models. The Norco has no reviews on newegg, so I'm leary of it. > > iStarUSA BPN-DE230SS-BLACK 2 x 5.25" to 3 x 3.5" SAS/SATA Trayless > Hot-Swap Cage - OEM > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816215240 > > iStarUSA BPU-230SATA-BPL 2x5.25" to 3x3.5" SAS/SATA 6.0 Gb/s Hot-Swap > Cage - Lockable > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121912 > > NORCO SS-300 3 Bay 3.5" SATA/SAS Hot Swap Rack Module > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816133050 > > ICY DOCK MB453IPF-B 3 in 2 3.5' SATA I & II Hot-Swap Internal > Backplane Raid Cage Module > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994052 > > > And a fall back model which should work just fine in my case, and > which is really cheap, but takes up three 5.25" bays to hold 4 drives > and isn't hot swappable... > > COOLER MASTER STB-3T4-E3-GP 4-in-3 Device Module Hardisk Cage > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817993002 > > Thanks, > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 7, 2011

Drive cage recommendations?

by John Stoffel

Guys, I'm looking to add one or more of those 2x5.25" bay to 3x3.5" disk cages to my main file server, which is a CoolerMaster Centurion 534 case, which has tabs in between each 5.25" bay to help hold things in place. I thought about the 3x5.25 -> 4/5x3.5" expanders, but since I have four free 5.25" slots, it makes more sense to use a pair of 2x5.25"->3x3.5" cages. Plus most of the larger expanders won't work with tabs in the case. Part of my criteria is: cost, quiet cooling fan, durability of sleds, SATA III support, abitily to replace the cooling fan if it's too loud. So here's my top four choices. The IcyDock is the most expensive by far. Not sure I'd go for it... sorta leaning towards the iStarUSA models. The Norco has no reviews on newegg, so I'm leary of it. iStarUSA BPN-DE230SS-BLACK 2 x 5.25" to 3 x 3.5" SAS/SATA Trayless Hot-Swap Cage - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816215240 iStarUSA BPU-230SATA-BPL 2x5.25" to 3x3.5" SAS/SATA 6.0 Gb/s Hot-Swap Cage - Lockable http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121912 NORCO SS-300 3 Bay 3.5" SATA/SAS Hot Swap Rack Module http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816133050 ICY DOCK MB453IPF-B 3 in 2 3.5' SATA I & II Hot-Swap Internal Backplane Raid Cage Module http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994052 And a fall back model which should work just fine in my case, and which is really cheap, but takes up three 5.25" bays to hold 4 drives and isn't hot swappable... COOLER MASTER STB-3T4-E3-GP 4-in-3 Device Module Hardisk Cage http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817993002 Thanks, John

Sept. 7, 2011

Re: [Wlug] I got Fedora Core 4 working fine.....

by Randall Mason

Yeay!!!! Sometimes it's just easier to start from a different angle. Glad you got it working and sorry I couldn't figure it out. Good luck! Randall Mason On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Thanks for listening. Thanks for the sympathy. > > I had Fedora Core 4 on a machine with a powerless power supply. I added > that 30G hard drive to the 150G on this machine and booted from it. Low > and Behold. CUPS works. SAMBA works. Will wonders never cease... I > even get to choose between GNOME and KDE. > > Ken > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 31, 2011

I got Fedora Core 4 working fine.....

by Ken Jones

Thanks for listening. Thanks for the sympathy. I had Fedora Core 4 on a machine with a powerless power supply. I added that 30G hard drive to the 150G on this machine and booted from it. Low and Behold. CUPS works. SAMBA works. Will wonders never cease... I even get to choose between GNOME and KDE. Ken

Aug. 31, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Fedora 6 problems with CUPS

by Aljerin Butler,Jr.

Hello, Perhaps you might want to check out my website here. Good luck, Al Butler >________________________________ >From: "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:00 PM >Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 94, Issue 13 > > > >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Fedora 6 problems with CUPS (Ken Jones) > 2. Re: Fedora 6 problems with CUPS (Randall Mason) >Evidently FEDORA CORE 6 CUPS predates my BROTHER HL-5340D black and >white laser printer. Even though it does not include this BROTHER model >in its list, CUPS claims it sees the printer and that it turned the >printer on. The printer fails the test page. All my documentation is >out of date. SAMBA does not work. So much for my LINUX Antique Road >Show. I'm going to do a bit of computer hardware upgrading.. > > > >Can you try just installing it with the PPD file: >http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.… >When you select the printer, instead of looking for the printer in the list, select that you have a ppd and select the ppd that you can download from the above site for your printer. I think you have a VERY Linux compatible printer. There are also some command line instructions that would make the printer show up in the list of available printers if you click on installation instructions for ppd. > >Randall Mason >randall(a)mason.ch > > > >On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)employees.org> wrote: > >Evidently FEDORA CORE 6 CUPS predates my BROTHER HL-5340D black and >>white laser printer. Even though it does not include this BROTHER model >>in its list, CUPS claims it sees the printer and that it turned the >>printer on. The printer fails the test page. All my documentation is >>out of date. SAMBA does not work. So much for my LINUX Antique Road >>Show. I'm going to do a bit of computer hardware upgrading.. >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

Aug. 30, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Fedora 6 problems with CUPS

by Randall Mason

Can you try just installing it with the PPD file: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.… When you select the printer, instead of looking for the printer in the list, select that you have a ppd and select the ppd that you can download from the above site for your printer. I think you have a VERY Linux compatible printer. There are also some command line instructions that would make the printer show up in the list of available printers if you click on installation instructions for ppd. Randall Mason randall(a)mason.ch On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)employees.org> wrote: > Evidently FEDORA CORE 6 CUPS predates my BROTHER HL-5340D black and > white laser printer. Even though it does not include this BROTHER model > in its list, CUPS claims it sees the printer and that it turned the > printer on. The printer fails the test page. All my documentation is > out of date. SAMBA does not work. So much for my LINUX Antique Road > Show. I'm going to do a bit of computer hardware upgrading.. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 30, 2011

Fedora 6 problems with CUPS

by Ken Jones

Evidently FEDORA CORE 6 CUPS predates my BROTHER HL-5340D black and white laser printer. Even though it does not include this BROTHER model in its list, CUPS claims it sees the printer and that it turned the printer on. The printer fails the test page. All my documentation is out of date. SAMBA does not work. So much for my LINUX Antique Road Show. I'm going to do a bit of computer hardware upgrading..

Aug. 29, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Either legitimately confused or early onset...

by Randall Mason

You actually don't want samba, that would help you serve printers. You want CUPS. Cups helpsyou serve and use printers. Rememberthe URL I sent you that started with archive? Have you tried that as a repo? Something like: baseurl= http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/6/i386/os/ or baseurl= http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/… Also, give some better background with questions you ask, it will help people help you. -Randall On Aug 29, 2011 5:59 AM, "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)employees.org> wrote: > I've got Fedora Core 6 Evolution working so I can cut and paste. > I tried to use the "retrieve update information" tool. I think > everything is WAY out of date. The update tool said. > "Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: extras" > > I can't find one either. I checked the fedora-core.repo file: > > $ more fedora-core.repo > [core] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch > #baseurl= http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$ba > search/os/ > > I went there and got. > > The requested URL no longer exists.... > URL /pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$bahttp:// download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os/w… not found on this server. > > All I want is SAMBA to work so I can interact with the my WINDOWS > machines - particularly the one with the BROTHER printer attached. > > Ken > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 29, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Either legitimately confused or early onset...

by Ken Jones

I've got Fedora Core 6 Evolution working so I can cut and paste. I tried to use the "retrieve update information" tool. I think everything is WAY out of date. The update tool said. "Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: extras" I can't find one either. I checked the fedora-core.repo file: $ more fedora-core.repo [core] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch #baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$ba search/os/ I went there and got. The requested URL no longer exists.... URL /pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$bahttp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os/ was not found on this server. All I want is SAMBA to work so I can interact with the my WINDOWS machines - particularly the one with the BROTHER printer attached. Ken

Aug. 28, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 94, Issue 11

by David Hardy

*If that is an older machine with that little RAM, it will probably be more expensive to jack it up than it would be for a newer machine. I tried to go that route this past year and the cost of jacking up RAM on an older box was just prohibitive.* * * *I just got a Lenovo IdeaPad that came with 1GB of RAM and adding another gig is twelve bucks. 250GB hard drive and it had Windows 7 "Starter Edition" on it which I didn't even allow to boot up and immediately put Fedora 15 on that puppy. Sweet. With LXDE. * On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Either legitimately confused or early onset.... (Ken Jones) > 2. Re: Either legitimately confused or early onset.... > (John Stoffel) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:23:31 -0400 > From: "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)ziplink.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Either legitimately confused or early onset.... > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <9CF3FF0779D44C838EF50DCF1E28F2F3@kjonespc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have successfully installed Fedora 6 Core. I included 'programming' > services. It said that it would install SAMBA. It did not. System > Services mentions the need for xinetd. 'Locate' finds 'xinetd' but it does > not seem to run. smbd and nmbd are nowhere to be found. Sigh..... > > My machine only has 256M ram memory. The higher numbered FEDORA packages > ask for more ram. I have a 'good' and never before used set of Fedora 6 > .iso CD-ROMs. > > Red Hat and Fedora have gone their separate ways. > > I just found > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Core/6/html/Installation_Guide/i… > . > > Looks promising. Little did I know how much has changed..... Constructive > suggestions would be appreciated. Maybe I should jump to CORE 13 or > so...... > > Ken Jones (the elder) > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20110827/d5d5269d/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:45:58 -0400 > From: "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Either legitimately confused or early onset.... > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <20057.40406.447557.594576(a)quad.stoffel.home> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Ken> I have successfully installed Fedora 6 Core. I included > Ken> 'programming' services. It said that it would install SAMBA. > Ken> It did not. System Services mentions the need for xinetd. > Ken> 'Locate' finds 'xinetd' but it does not seem to run. smbd and > Ken> nmbd are nowhere to be found. Sigh..... My machine only has > Ken> 256M ram memory. The higher numbered FEDORA packages ask for > Ken> more ram. I have a 'good' and never before used set of Fedora 6 > Ken> .iso CD-ROMs. > > It's time to just spring for more memory. Seriously, it's just not > that expensive. I just upgraded my kids Athlon (he's only 9) from > 768Mb (3 x 256mb) to 2.25 Gb with a pair of 1gb dimms for $23.00 > shipped. Cheap! > > Heck, I'd *give* you my two old 256Mb DDR 333 Mhz DIMMS if they'll > work for you. I certainly won't be using them again. > > Ken> Red Hat and Fedora have gone their separate ways. > > In what way do you mean? I don't understand what you're trying to say > here. > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 94, Issue 11 > ************************************ >

Aug. 28, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Either legitimately confused or early onset....

by John Stoffel

Ken> I have successfully installed Fedora 6 Core. I included Ken> 'programming' services. It said that it would install SAMBA. Ken> It did not. System Services mentions the need for xinetd. Ken> 'Locate' finds 'xinetd' but it does not seem to run. smbd and Ken> nmbd are nowhere to be found. Sigh..... My machine only has Ken> 256M ram memory. The higher numbered FEDORA packages ask for Ken> more ram. I have a 'good' and never before used set of Fedora 6 Ken> .iso CD-ROMs. It's time to just spring for more memory. Seriously, it's just not that expensive. I just upgraded my kids Athlon (he's only 9) from 768Mb (3 x 256mb) to 2.25 Gb with a pair of 1gb dimms for $23.00 shipped. Cheap! Heck, I'd *give* you my two old 256Mb DDR 333 Mhz DIMMS if they'll work for you. I certainly won't be using them again. Ken> Red Hat and Fedora have gone their separate ways. In what way do you mean? I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

Aug. 28, 2011

Either legitimately confused or early onset....

by Ken Jones

I have successfully installed Fedora 6 Core. I included 'programming' services. It said that it would install SAMBA. It did not. System Services mentions the need for xinetd. 'Locate' finds 'xinetd' but it does not seem to run. smbd and nmbd are nowhere to be found. Sigh..... My machine only has 256M ram memory. The higher numbered FEDORA packages ask for more ram. I have a 'good' and never before used set of Fedora 6 .iso CD-ROMs. Red Hat and Fedora have gone their separate ways. I just found http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Core/6/html/Installation_Guide/i…. Looks promising. Little did I know how much has changed..... Constructive suggestions would be appreciated. Maybe I should jump to CORE 13 or so...... Ken Jones (the elder)

Aug. 28, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Fedora 15 and Burning CD

by Kevin Paetzold

I have successfully burned CD's and DVDs on fedora 15 without any problems.

Aug. 25, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Fedora 15 and Burning CD

by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com

It definitely doesn't have any data on it. I tried multiple discs. Even if that were the case, shouldn't I have been able to burn it onto the DVD which was listed as having enough space? > Are you sure the disk is blank? Try mounting it, and try another disc to > burn on. > > Eric Martin

Aug. 25, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Fedora 15 and Burning CD

by Eric Martin

Are you sure the disk is blank? Try mounting it, and try another disc to burn on. Eric Martin On Aug 24, 2011 9:34 PM, <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> wrote: > I want to burn a copy of fedora 15 32-bit on a CD but my installed fedora > 15 64-bit isn't letting me. When I put in a blank CD it tells me it has > 137.8 MB free and won't let me select that as a burn destination. It > shouldn't be 137.8 MB free as a blank CD has more space. To get it working > I decided to try burning to a DVD. Space seems correct there but again it > doesn't allow burning. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 25, 2011

Re: [Wlug] SAMBA on Fedora 6??

by Eric Martin

Why Fedora 6 when they're on 15 or 16? Is there something keeping you for updating it? Like Randy mentioned, there are probably a bunch of security holes that are now patched but weren't before. Just asking, Eric Martin On Aug 24, 2011 10:17 PM, "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Due to a series of incidents too complex to detail here, I have just rebuilt a desktop PC with Fedora 6. All seems fine except it does not contain SAMBA - at least I can not find the SAMBA executable on the 5 disc .iso CD set. It has been at least five years. I do not remember it being difficult back then..... > > I have gone to various places on the WEB that claim to have appropriate SAMBA versions only to discover they have been taken down. I tried the SAMBA in my FEDORA Linux 3 Bible DVD. (Many dependencies missing....) I tried the SAMBA in my SAMBA Black Book CD. I got no where. It's been soooo long. I like Fedora. Must I now go to Ubuntu? > > Ken Jones

Aug. 25, 2011