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Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by E Johnson

I'll plug it back in tomorrow morning & check that. Will report back. Thanks again very much! Liz On 5 January 2012 00:23, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > when the screen is black, in a well lit room, see if you can make out an > image on the screen. It will be very hard to see. If it is there, then its > either the inverter or the back light. (90% of the time its the inverter, > the back light is part of the panel) > > On Jan 5, 2012 12:18 AM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Okay, thanks very much Jason! >> >> The symptoms seem similar to what you are describing. Power works, can >> see the initial screen with "Acer" logo, can see for a few seconds the >> desktop & windows on it, which then fades & screen appears to go >> black. >> >> I will open it up & find the part. While I am there, I will dust off >> everything, & inspect. Then if I need further direction I will be >> back. I used to build & inspect small elex units, back in the day. It >> doesn't sound difficult, as long as it doesn't require diagnostic >> tools that we don't have. >> >> But as I said, I replaced the monitor, so if someone else needs a >> monitor & wants to attempt a repair, e-mail me & it can be yours. >> >> Thanks very much, >> Liz >> >> >> >> On 4 January 2012 23:56, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > You can give me a call sometime if you like, and I can tell you what you >> > need to know. Its a bit much to type out. If you're interested reply >> > directly to me and ill give you my number. >> > >> > On Jan 4, 2012 11:54 PM, "Jason Couture" <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> If you open the casing, you'll find 1 to 4, 2 wire electrical >> >> connectors. >> >> (Usually two). The wires are usually pink and white, but can be >> >> different. >> >> They are the power wires for the back light, which is ccfl? I think? >> >> They >> >> require a high voltage to operate (30,000v) the inverter changes the >> >> internal voltage (5-12v) to the required voltage. If its burnt out, the >> >> back >> >> light may not work at all, or may work at first and then turn off. If >> >> you >> >> look carefully the picture will still be on the screen but almost >> >> impossible >> >> to see. Attached are some pictures of the wires from a lamp I removed >> >> from >> >> an Acer LCD panel. Of all the ones I've taken apart this is more or >> >> less >> >> universal. The inverter is usually highly specific to the monitor. >> >> Easiest >> >> way to find one is to take the old one out and get the model number off >> >> of >> >> it. >> >> >> >> On Jan 4, 2012 11:40 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I bought a new monitor. We cannot be down, this was being used for a >> >>> project. This is now a (non-working) retired spare. >> >>> >> >>> Can you tell us more about whatever inverter it might need, or how to >> >>> diagnose? >> >>> >> >>> I would like to hear how to fix these, in case Monitor 2 (identical >> >>> twin) goes down. Identical twin was actually bought earlier & is 5 >> >>> seconds out of warranty, but still rock-solid. But if it dies we will >> >>> not be happy campers. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> Liz >> >>> >> >>> On 4 January 2012 23:22, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > Sounds like the inverter, did you see if they were available? There >> >>> > usually >> >>> > fairly easy to change. >> >>> > >> >>> > On Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking >> >>> >> out >> >>> >> 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still >> >>> >> doing just fine!). >> >>> >> >> >>> >> This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI >> >>> >> or >> >>> >> VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, >> >>> >> at >> >>> >> least I always enjoyed it. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Specs: >> >>> >> Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, >> >>> >> (WSXGA+), >> >>> >> 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) >> >>> >> >> >>> >> This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but >> >>> >> flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it >> >>> >> (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in >> >>> >> Texas), >> >>> >> who will fix it & return within a few weeks. >> >>> >> Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper >> >>> >> than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, >> >>> >> the >> >>> >> only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the >> >>> >> thing. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm >> >>> >> Park. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Liz J >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> Wlug mailing list >> >>> >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >>> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > Wlug mailing list >> >>> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >>> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Wlug mailing list >> >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 5, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by Jason Couture

when the screen is black, in a well lit room, see if you can make out an image on the screen. It will be very hard to see. If it is there, then its either the inverter or the back light. (90% of the time its the inverter, the back light is part of the panel) On Jan 5, 2012 12:18 AM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Okay, thanks very much Jason! > > The symptoms seem similar to what you are describing. Power works, can > see the initial screen with "Acer" logo, can see for a few seconds the > desktop & windows on it, which then fades & screen appears to go > black. > > I will open it up & find the part. While I am there, I will dust off > everything, & inspect. Then if I need further direction I will be > back. I used to build & inspect small elex units, back in the day. It > doesn't sound difficult, as long as it doesn't require diagnostic > tools that we don't have. > > But as I said, I replaced the monitor, so if someone else needs a > monitor & wants to attempt a repair, e-mail me & it can be yours. > > Thanks very much, > Liz > > > > On 4 January 2012 23:56, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > You can give me a call sometime if you like, and I can tell you what you > > need to know. Its a bit much to type out. If you're interested reply > > directly to me and ill give you my number. > > > > On Jan 4, 2012 11:54 PM, "Jason Couture" <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> If you open the casing, you'll find 1 to 4, 2 wire electrical > connectors. > >> (Usually two). The wires are usually pink and white, but can be > different. > >> They are the power wires for the back light, which is ccfl? I think? > They > >> require a high voltage to operate (30,000v) the inverter changes the > >> internal voltage (5-12v) to the required voltage. If its burnt out, the > back > >> light may not work at all, or may work at first and then turn off. If > you > >> look carefully the picture will still be on the screen but almost > impossible > >> to see. Attached are some pictures of the wires from a lamp I removed > from > >> an Acer LCD panel. Of all the ones I've taken apart this is more or less > >> universal. The inverter is usually highly specific to the monitor. > Easiest > >> way to find one is to take the old one out and get the model number off > of > >> it. > >> > >> On Jan 4, 2012 11:40 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I bought a new monitor. We cannot be down, this was being used for a > >>> project. This is now a (non-working) retired spare. > >>> > >>> Can you tell us more about whatever inverter it might need, or how to > >>> diagnose? > >>> > >>> I would like to hear how to fix these, in case Monitor 2 (identical > >>> twin) goes down. Identical twin was actually bought earlier & is 5 > >>> seconds out of warranty, but still rock-solid. But if it dies we will > >>> not be happy campers. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Liz > >>> > >>> On 4 January 2012 23:22, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Sounds like the inverter, did you see if they were available? There > >>> > usually > >>> > fairly easy to change. > >>> > > >>> > On Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking > out > >>> >> 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still > >>> >> doing just fine!). > >>> >> > >>> >> This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI > or > >>> >> VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, at > >>> >> least I always enjoyed it. > >>> >> > >>> >> Specs: > >>> >> Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, (WSXGA+), > >>> >> 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) > >>> >> > >>> >> This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but > >>> >> flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it > >>> >> (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in > Texas), > >>> >> who will fix it & return within a few weeks. > >>> >> Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper > >>> >> than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, the > >>> >> only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. > >>> >> > >>> >> Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the > >>> >> thing. > >>> >> > >>> >> E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. > >>> >> > >>> >> Liz J > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> Wlug mailing list > >>> >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Wlug mailing list > >>> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >>> > > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wlug mailing list > >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 5, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by E Johnson

Okay, thanks very much Jason! The symptoms seem similar to what you are describing. Power works, can see the initial screen with "Acer" logo, can see for a few seconds the desktop & windows on it, which then fades & screen appears to go black. I will open it up & find the part. While I am there, I will dust off everything, & inspect. Then if I need further direction I will be back. I used to build & inspect small elex units, back in the day. It doesn't sound difficult, as long as it doesn't require diagnostic tools that we don't have. But as I said, I replaced the monitor, so if someone else needs a monitor & wants to attempt a repair, e-mail me & it can be yours. Thanks very much, Liz On 4 January 2012 23:56, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You can give me a call sometime if you like, and I can tell you what you > need to know. Its a bit much to type out. If you're interested reply > directly to me and ill give you my number. > > On Jan 4, 2012 11:54 PM, "Jason Couture" <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> If you open the casing, you'll find 1 to 4, 2 wire electrical connectors. >> (Usually two). The wires are usually pink and white, but can be different. >> They are the power wires for the back light, which is ccfl? I think? They >> require a high voltage to operate (30,000v) the inverter changes the >> internal voltage (5-12v) to the required voltage. If its burnt out, the back >> light may not work at all, or may work at first and then turn off. If you >> look carefully the picture will still be on the screen but almost impossible >> to see. Attached are some pictures of the wires from a lamp I removed from >> an Acer LCD panel. Of all the ones I've taken apart this is more or less >> universal. The inverter is usually highly specific to the monitor. Easiest >> way to find one is to take the old one out and get the model number off of >> it. >> >> On Jan 4, 2012 11:40 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I bought a new monitor. We cannot be down, this was being used for a >>> project. This is now a (non-working) retired spare. >>> >>> Can you tell us more about whatever inverter it might need, or how to >>> diagnose? >>> >>> I would like to hear how to fix these, in case Monitor 2 (identical >>> twin) goes down. Identical twin was actually bought earlier & is 5 >>> seconds out of warranty, but still rock-solid. But if it dies we will >>> not be happy campers. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Liz >>> >>> On 4 January 2012 23:22, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Sounds like the inverter, did you see if they were available? There >>> > usually >>> > fairly easy to change. >>> > >>> > On Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking out >>> >> 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still >>> >> doing just fine!). >>> >> >>> >> This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI or >>> >> VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, at >>> >> least I always enjoyed it. >>> >> >>> >> Specs: >>> >> Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, (WSXGA+), >>> >> 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) >>> >> >>> >> This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but >>> >> flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it >>> >> (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in Texas), >>> >> who will fix it & return within a few weeks. >>> >> Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper >>> >> than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, the >>> >> only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. >>> >> >>> >> Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the >>> >> thing. >>> >> >>> >> E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. >>> >> >>> >> Liz J >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Wlug mailing list >>> >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Wlug mailing list >>> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 5, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by Jason Couture

You can give me a call sometime if you like, and I can tell you what you need to know. Its a bit much to type out. If you're interested reply directly to me and ill give you my number. On Jan 4, 2012 11:54 PM, "Jason Couture" <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If you open the casing, you'll find 1 to 4, 2 wire electrical connectors. > (Usually two). The wires are usually pink and white, but can be different. > They are the power wires for the back light, which is ccfl? I think? They > require a high voltage to operate (30,000v) the inverter changes the > internal voltage (5-12v) to the required voltage. If its burnt out, the > back light may not work at all, or may work at first and then turn off. If > you look carefully the picture will still be on the screen but almost > impossible to see. Attached are some pictures of the wires from a lamp I > removed from an Acer LCD panel. Of all the ones I've taken apart this is > more or less universal. The inverter is usually highly specific to the > monitor. Easiest way to find one is to take the old one out and get the > model number off of it. > On Jan 4, 2012 11:40 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I bought a new monitor. We cannot be down, this was being used for a >> project. This is now a (non-working) retired spare. >> >> Can you tell us more about whatever inverter it might need, or how to >> diagnose? >> >> I would like to hear how to fix these, in case Monitor 2 (identical >> twin) goes down. Identical twin was actually bought earlier & is 5 >> seconds out of warranty, but still rock-solid. But if it dies we will >> not be happy campers. >> >> Thanks, >> Liz >> >> On 4 January 2012 23:22, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Sounds like the inverter, did you see if they were available? There >> usually >> > fairly easy to change. >> > >> > On Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking out >> >> 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still >> >> doing just fine!). >> >> >> >> This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI or >> >> VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, at >> >> least I always enjoyed it. >> >> >> >> Specs: >> >> Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, (WSXGA+), >> >> 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) >> >> >> >> This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but >> >> flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it >> >> (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in Texas), >> >> who will fix it & return within a few weeks. >> >> Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper >> >> than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, the >> >> only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. >> >> >> >> Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the >> thing. >> >> >> >> E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. >> >> >> >> Liz J >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wlug mailing list >> >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >

Jan. 5, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by E Johnson

I bought a new monitor. We cannot be down, this was being used for a project. This is now a (non-working) retired spare. Can you tell us more about whatever inverter it might need, or how to diagnose? I would like to hear how to fix these, in case Monitor 2 (identical twin) goes down. Identical twin was actually bought earlier & is 5 seconds out of warranty, but still rock-solid. But if it dies we will not be happy campers. Thanks, Liz On 4 January 2012 23:22, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sounds like the inverter, did you see if they were available? There usually > fairly easy to change. > > On Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking out >> 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still >> doing just fine!). >> >> This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI or >> VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, at >> least I always enjoyed it. >> >> Specs: >> Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, (WSXGA+), >> 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) >> >> This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but >> flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it >> (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in Texas), >> who will fix it & return within a few weeks. >> Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper >> than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, the >> only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. >> >> Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the thing. >> >> E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. >> >> Liz J >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 5, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by Jason Couture

Sounds like the inverter, did you see if they were available? There usually fairly easy to change. On Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking out > 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still > doing just fine!). > > This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI or > VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, at > least I always enjoyed it. > > Specs: > Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, (WSXGA+), > 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) > > This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but > flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it > (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in Texas), > who will fix it & return within a few weeks. > Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper > than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, the > only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. > > Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the thing. > > E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. > > Liz J > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 5, 2012

Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by E Johnson

Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking out 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still doing just fine!). This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI or VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, at least I always enjoyed it. Specs: Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, (WSXGA+), 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in Texas), who will fix it & return within a few weeks. Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, the only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the thing. E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. Liz J

Jan. 5, 2012

WLUG meeting? Yes! Wed Dec 14 7:00 PM

by Chuck Anderson

Yes, meeting is still on for tomorrow. XMonad sounds like a fine talk if you can make it for tomorrow that would be great! Thanks, Chuck On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 03:51:45PM -0500, Henrique wrote: > Hey! > > Chuck invited me to make a talk on XMonad, which I find it is a pretty cool > window manager that can run on top of GNOME, or by itself. > I said I could do it, but I am not sure if I could make a talk about it for > an hour. I have not heard anything since. > I am not sure if we are having the meeting. > > Thanks, > Henrique. > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hey Gang, > > > > Are we having a meeting this month? I would *think* it would be on the > > 14th... > > > > Thanks, > > Tim.

Dec. 13, 2011

Re: [Wlug] WLUG meeting?

by Henrique

Hey! Chuck invited me to make a talk on XMonad, which I find it is a pretty cool window manager that can run on top of GNOME, or by itself. I said I could do it, but I am not sure if I could make a talk about it for an hour. I have not heard anything since. I am not sure if we are having the meeting. Thanks, Henrique. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Are we having a meeting this month? I would *think* it would be on the > 14th... > > Thanks, > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Dec. 13, 2011

WLUG meeting?

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Are we having a meeting this month? I would *think* it would be on the 14th... Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Dec. 13, 2011

OPENING - Sr Software Engineer - C/Linux - perm in Cambridge area

by John Spencer

We have an opening for a Sr Software Engineer. This is a perm position in the Cambridge area for a sharp engineer with 7-10+ yrs of experience. I have included some info below. In the spirit of the Holiday Season, the season of giving, if you are not interested in this position and even if you don't know anyone looking, please share this information with your network, as more than likely someone in your network knows someone that could use help finding a new position. Sr Software Engineer We are looking for a well rounded Sr Software Engineer that is interested in working in a collaborative environment on a variety of projects. Must have strong C programming skills. C++ and Java are a plus Must have strong Linux background and experience Systems software experience is needed Ability to come up to speed quickly and desire to work on a variety of projects and technology Experience working in an Agile environment is a plus Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com <www.connectedsp.com%20%20%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

Dec. 5, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by Mike Peckar

>One more question; We have an Asus RT-N16 wireless router (that's connected to the Verizon modem) that I DD-WRT'd a couple of years ago, and I like it. If I go with Charter, can I continue to use this or do I have to get something else? I have a DD-WRT'd router on a charter line and it works great. In the past we had line issues on hot days, and it took several service calls to resolve, but it's been stable going on 3 yrs now. It's a Netgear WNR3500U - got it for $30 on ebay - not bad for a gigabit N router and now SNMP for stats and scheduled outages for my kid's devices. Its wireless reception/output is so-so, though, but we live in a small house. We still have our original Surfboard - it could be 8 years old. Download: ~15Mbps; Upload ~2Mbps Mike

Dec. 2, 2011

[WPI] Linux Installfest tomorrow

by Henrique

Hello!, Just a reminder that the Linux Installfest is tomorrow at Worcester Polytechnic Institute. The event is geared towards helping WPI students get started with Linux, but anyone is welcome to join, help, or just chat. What: Linux Installfest Where: WPI, Kaven Hall 202<http://www.wpi.edu/Academics/ATC/Facilities/Classrooms/kh202.html>, (google maps<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=42.27484,-71.805884&daddr=…> ) When: November 29, 2011, 6pm to 11pm If you have any questions, feel free to send me an e-mail. Thank you, Henrique "nican" Polido.

Nov. 29, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by Steven Greenberg

Since Charter's modem is intended to connect to an Ethernet network and you wireless router is intended to connect to an ethernet network, then all should work fine together. That is the benefit of a standard. /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: http://www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

Nov. 25, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by E Johnson

I don't see why you couldn't use the same router with a different modem. Once the modem is provisioned it should see the router, and vice-versa. I do recommend getting your own modem, though. I like the Motorola SB6120. There's a newer, smaller one (the SB6125, I think) but people have been complaining about it getting hot, and about a lot of dropouts. This one (the SB6125) has been very solid since Charter took care of their line-tuning issue out beyond our pole. It's really nice to be able to see your own diagnostics pages in the modem, as well as having control of the router. My router's MAC address shows up on one of the diagnostics pages of this modem. One issue on the SB6120 --the light that was supposed to blink when data is being served is not correctly functional under the firmware that the ISPs have been serving in the last year or so. The ISPs blame Motorola, and Motorola blames the ISPs. The bug is, this data light blinks about 3x/second, instead of just blinking while data is actually moving. The blue lights are a llittle bright. One of the lights on this thing is amber, if a slower internet speed is being served, but it's blue if you're working with the DOCSYS3 speeds. This can be a handy little indicator. This unit is now less than $80.00 online, which pays for itself in 14 months, by not having to pay Charter $5/mo. for rental of one of their units. When I ordered new service at this address 18 months ago, the Charter sales rep promised me a SB6120, but when the tech came out, he said he didn't have any, & gave me one of their Ubees. I ordered that Surfboard the same day. Another thing about Charter -- when you order new service, it is possible (easy) to get the sales rep. to waive the installation fee. Just ask --they always NEED new customers. Get his/her employee number in case Billing "forgets" & adds an installation charge to the 1st month's bill. Billing has been very good about making adjustments. They rebate us per diem for down time or partial-mlfunction time (which is rare these days) and if they "accidently" charge us for a tech call which was due to a problem not our fault, they remove it immediately from the bill. Just carefully read the bill & don't hesitate to call Billing if there's any question. Pretty happy, generally. Good luck, Liz J On 24 November 2011 15:36, Chuck Noyes <vze284qe(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > Hi Again, > > Thanks for all the replies! It's a big help to get other people's views > about this. It looks like people are generally > happy with Charter. In the past, I've heard horror stories about them, but > it appears they've improved their product. > > One more question; We have an Asus RT-N16 wireless router (that's > connected to the Verizon modem) > that I DD-WRT'd a couple of years ago, and I like it. If I go with > Charter, can I continue to use this or do > I have to get something else? > > Thanks again for all the replies, > -Chuck > > > > On Nov 23, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Chuck Noyes wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - > it's been incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support > > has been no help. So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). > I'd prefer a local one, but at this point, I'm not > > fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We have Charter as the cable > TV provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. > > > > I don't want to start a "religious war" - I'm just looking for > information so I can make an informed decision. > > > > Thanks, > > -Chuck > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by Chuck Noyes

Hi Again, Thanks for all the replies! It's a big help to get other people's views about this. It looks like people are generally happy with Charter. In the past, I've heard horror stories about them, but it appears they've improved their product. One more question; We have an Asus RT-N16 wireless router (that's connected to the Verizon modem) that I DD-WRT'd a couple of years ago, and I like it. If I go with Charter, can I continue to use this or do I have to get something else? Thanks again for all the replies, -Chuck On Nov 23, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Chuck Noyes wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - it's been incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support > has been no help. So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). I'd prefer a local one, but at this point, I'm not > fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We have Charter as the cable TV provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. > > I don't want to start a "religious war" - I'm just looking for information so I can make an informed decision. > > Thanks, > -Chuck > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by John Stoffel

Chuck> I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL Chuck> service - it's been incredibly slow for the last couple of Chuck> months. Customer support has been no help. So, I'm curious what Chuck> ISP people like (and don't like). I'd prefer a local one, but Chuck> at this point, I'm not fussy. I'm looking for something Chuck> reliable. We have Charter as the cable TV provider. I don't Chuck> know if I want to go that route. I've had Charter at home in Boylston for about 12 years now, and it's been rock solid. We've now got Phone on there as well and it's better than our old verizon setup, except when the power goes out, but that's my fault for not putting a land line phone onto the system where it's easily found. Not a biggee overall since the wife and I both have Cells. I do wish I could play off Charter vs. Verizon FioS but it's not *quite* near enough to my house to get FiOS. Bummers. In general, I recommend that you buy your own cable router, just the cost per-month they charge pays foritself failry quickly. But honestly, Charter has been just fine for us. John

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by Steven Greenberg

I am happy with Charter. I use their Modem, but my own wireless router. I can't get Verizon DSL out here in the boondocks, so once I went with Charter for the internet, I did the phone with them, too. /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: http://www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by Jason Couture

If you do decide to get charter make sure you get one of the Motorola surfboards. I've had alot of problems with their other modems. If a tech is installing it just ask for it and he'll go to his truck and grab one. On Nov 23, 2011 9:52 PM, "Aaron Haviland" <orion(a)parsed.net> wrote: > Chuck Noyes wrote, on Nov 23, 2011 at 18:13 EST: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - > it's been > > incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support has been > no help. > > So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). I'd prefer a > local one, but > > at this point, I'm not fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We > have Charter > > as the cable TV provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. > > I cannot get DSL where I live (too rural), and my town is contracted with > Charter for > Cable, so my options are limited here, but when I lived in Somerville a > few years > back, I had service from Cyberonic. I liked them mostly because they were > local. > They're in Worcester, and I actually signed up with them in-person. Got a > free mug. > But that was years ago... > > Where I live now has had Charter for about 9 years now, and we've even had > the same > (rented) SB4100 cable modem the whole time. It's only DOCSYS 1.1, but we > get the > speeds we're paying for, and the old hardware works fine, so we don't > complain (nor > have we had to). I haven't had to deal with Support in years. > > -- > Aaron Haviland > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFOzbETNL5skATtxLERAnWwAKC8Xr4rPT1dweYEyML2YDATEshfCQCg2hm4 > AjMpAqf8X5CKfPOECt+ssug= > =PGY/ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by Aaron Haviland

Chuck Noyes wrote, on Nov 23, 2011 at 18:13 EST: > > Hi All, > > I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - it's been > incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support has been no help. > So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). I'd prefer a local one, but > at this point, I'm not fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We have Charter > as the cable TV provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. I cannot get DSL where I live (too rural), and my town is contracted with Charter for Cable, so my options are limited here, but when I lived in Somerville a few years back, I had service from Cyberonic. I liked them mostly because they were local. They're in Worcester, and I actually signed up with them in-person. Got a free mug. But that was years ago... Where I live now has had Charter for about 9 years now, and we've even had the same (rented) SB4100 cable modem the whole time. It's only DOCSYS 1.1, but we get the speeds we're paying for, and the old hardware works fine, so we don't complain (nor have we had to). I haven't had to deal with Support in years. -- Aaron Haviland

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by E Johnson

PS - The landlady downstairs has Charter's lowest (slowest) tier of internet service, with a wireless modem/router (some kind of little white Netgear box) that they supply. It's usually okay on a wired connection, but I've tested the wireless on it, & while it serves webpages okay (usually), it's really, really slow downloading anything. Even sitting 4 feet away from the box, with nothing but air in between. Maybe she got a bad unit, but I'd recommend avoiding that setup. The other thing to watch out for if you rent a modem from the company (any company) is to make sure they give you a brand-new unit, and not some half-dead unit they just swapped out of someone else's house. EJ On 23 November 2011 19:15, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've had very good success with Charter over 9 or 10 years or service by > them. When I lived at Newton Square it took some time (many moons) to > convincve their techs that the draggy internet was because of a > suspersaturated node, but they regularly gave me rebates for poor service & > finally did get it fixed & working well. They finally split the node to > relieve the traffic congestion in that neighborhood. > > I think a lot has changed with this Co. since they got the DOCSYS3 up & > running here. It's been a couple of years here (in Worcester). I think that > has made a big difference. Have the 25-down / 3-up here now. Service at > this place (you guys were here for the BBQ) has generally been very smooth > since June 2010 when we moved in. We had to get techs out here a couple of > time just after they replaced the drops this past summer --they needed to > tune (something), then we had torrential rain that seemed to be getting > iinto something, somewhere nearby. They did note lots of packet loss "at > the drop" which meant it was not in my house, my lines or my equipment, so > the tech calls were all zero-cost. > > You might like to have your own modem & router, which I have, or maybe > not. I can discuss what equipment I am running here if necessary, with > which I am very satisfied. I buy my own router & modem so that I can run my > own software on it & see my own diagnostics pages. > > We do not experience a slowdown in the evenings or on rainy-day weekends > here. Speed is very good 99.9% of the time. > > The only Cons: A couple of times I had to call Cust. Service to explain > that the service calls they charged me for were not "my fault". But they > immediately dropped the charges that had billed me for. So this is not that > much of a Con except it did cost me some phone-call time. Just keep an eye > on your bill & don't auto-pay. > > Some percentage of their phone support people (including Tech) is > outsourced to overseas locations. Some of the accents are a bit difficult > to understand. These techs have a hard time disuccing anything that is not > in their canned script, so if the call is something they can't handle, I > just ask for a "Level 2 Tech" or a "soup Tech" (supervisor) & usually I end > up being transferred to someone in the US. > Again, this is not much of a Con. > > I'm generally very pleased with the service. > > You'd be welcome to drop by with a laptop, or & check out what the service > is like here, or just test the service using my spare desktop (Debian > Squeeze which might become Mint at any moment). Or just PM me if you would > like a demo. > > HTH, > Liz J > > > > On 23 November 2011 18:13, Chuck Noyes <vze284qe(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >> >> Hi All, >> >> I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - >> it's been incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support >> has been no help. So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). >> I'd prefer a local one, but at this point, I'm not >> fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We have Charter as the cable >> TV provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. >> >> I don't want to start a "religious war" - I'm just looking for >> information so I can make an informed decision. >> >> Thanks, >> -Chuck >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by E Johnson

I've had very good success with Charter over 9 or 10 years or service by them. When I lived at Newton Square it took some time (many moons) to convincve their techs that the draggy internet was because of a suspersaturated node, but they regularly gave me rebates for poor service & finally did get it fixed & working well. They finally split the node to relieve the traffic congestion in that neighborhood. I think a lot has changed with this Co. since they got the DOCSYS3 up & running here. It's been a couple of years here (in Worcester). I think that has made a big difference. Have the 25-down / 3-up here now. Service at this place (you guys were here for the BBQ) has generally been very smooth since June 2010 when we moved in. We had to get techs out here a couple of time just after they replaced the drops this past summer --they needed to tune (something), then we had torrential rain that seemed to be getting iinto something, somewhere nearby. They did note lots of packet loss "at the drop" which meant it was not in my house, my lines or my equipment, so the tech calls were all zero-cost. You might like to have your own modem & router, which I have, or maybe not. I can discuss what equipment I am running here if necessary, with which I am very satisfied. I buy my own router & modem so that I can run my own software on it & see my own diagnostics pages. We do not experience a slowdown in the evenings or on rainy-day weekends here. Speed is very good 99.9% of the time. The only Cons: A couple of times I had to call Cust. Service to explain that the service calls they charged me for were not "my fault". But they immediately dropped the charges that had billed me for. So this is not that much of a Con except it did cost me some phone-call time. Just keep an eye on your bill & don't auto-pay. Some percentage of their phone support people (including Tech) is outsourced to overseas locations. Some of the accents are a bit difficult to understand. These techs have a hard time disuccing anything that is not in their canned script, so if the call is something they can't handle, I just ask for a "Level 2 Tech" or a "soup Tech" (supervisor) & usually I end up being transferred to someone in the US. Again, this is not much of a Con. I'm generally very pleased with the service. You'd be welcome to drop by with a laptop, or & check out what the service is like here, or just test the service using my spare desktop (Debian Squeeze which might become Mint at any moment). Or just PM me if you would like a demo. HTH, Liz J On 23 November 2011 18:13, Chuck Noyes <vze284qe(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - > it's been incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support > has been no help. So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). > I'd prefer a local one, but at this point, I'm not > fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We have Charter as the cable TV > provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. > > I don't want to start a "religious war" - I'm just looking for information > so I can make an informed decision. > > Thanks, > -Chuck > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Nov. 24, 2011

[OT] Internet Service Provider

by Chuck Noyes

Hi All, I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - it's been incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support has been no help. So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). I'd prefer a local one, but at this point, I'm not fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We have Charter as the cable TV provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. I don't want to start a "religious war" - I'm just looking for information so I can make an informed decision. Thanks, -Chuck

Nov. 23, 2011

Sr Software Engineer - C/Linux - perm in Cambridge area

by John Spencer

We have an opening for a Sr Software Engineer. This is a perm position for a sharp engineer with 7-10+ yrs of experience. Our client is looking for a well rounded Sr Software Engineer that is interested in working in a collaborative environment. Must have strong C programming skills. C++ and Java are a plus Must have strong Linux background and experience Systems software experience is needed Ability to come up to speed quickly and desire to work on a variety of projects and technology Experience working in an Agile environment is a plus. Please send resumes and any questions to the email address below. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com<http://www.connectedsp.com> GET CONNECTED! All information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

Nov. 16, 2011

jQuery help?

by John Stoffel

Anyone using jQuery (javascript) to program some client side elements in a web page? For example, I'm looking to have a drop down with a vary number of records to display on a page, and I want to update the display without reloading the page. So I'm playing with using 'Mojolicious::Lite' and some jQuery, but I'm hitting some brick walls. Anyone care to look at this code below and tell me why I don't see my selected values from the two different <select> pairs showing up in the named <div> pairs? #!/usr/bin/perl # Based on: http://api.jquery.com/change/ use Mojolicious::Lite; get '/top' => sub { my $self = shift; $self->stash(x => 10); $self->render('top'); }; app->secret('sweets'); app->start; __DATA__ @@ top.html.ep % title "jQuery dropdown select tests"; % layout "head"; <select name="sweets" multiple="multiple"> <option>Chocolate</option> <option selected="selected">Candy</option> <option>Taffy</option> <option selected="selected">Caramel</option> <option>Fudge</option> <option>Cookie</option> </select> <div id="sweets"></div> <script type="text/javascript"> $("select").change(function () { var strstr = ""; $("select option:selected").each(function () { strstr += $(this).text() + " "; }); $("div#sweets").text(strstr); }) .change(); </script> <hr> <select name="trees"> <option>Oak</option> <option selected="selected">Beech</option> <option>Pine</option> <option>Ash</option> <option>Willow</option> <option>Elm</option> </select> <script type="text/javascript"> $("select").change(function () { var str = ""; $("select option:selected").each(function () { str += $(this).text() + " "; }); $("div#trees").value(str); }) .change(); </script> <div id="trees"></div> @@ head.html.ep <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <title> <%= $title %> </title> <style> div { color:red; } </style> <script src="http://code.jquery.com/jquery-latest.js"></script> </head> <body> <%= content %? </body> </html> --

Nov. 15, 2011