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Re: [Wlug] USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by E Johnson

Thanks for answering on this nice weekend. The keyboard was getting a little cruddy; I took the faceplate off I cleaned it, sprayed it with air from various angles until no more debris flew out. Messages in /var/log/messages so far shows it being unplugged twice (the keyboard itself + its USB hub). Shows it being plugged in, identified (twice), configuration chosen, etc. Two-hundreths of a second later, it disconnected and repeated the same sequence again. Then it seemed to settle down. This is an Aurora keyboard made by Enermax, the model without the number pad, no longer being manufactured. http://www.enermax.com.tw/files/ProductFile_eng/PF_File/65.pdf Size and shape and feel of a laptop keyboard. It's not plastic, it's very quiet, and it fits in my lap. It's definitely the wire. I can reproduce the problem, or cure it, by moving the wire. I run my keyboard in my lap; have run all keyboards this way for years. It's starting to look like every time I set the keyboard aside & get up, the wire wiggles just enough to seem to unplug, then plug in again. The weird thing is, the wire, although it moves when I move, seems fairly secure. It has a nice rubber boot thing that seems to hold it place as it runs through the hole in the case. Inside, the little circuit board that the wire runs into looks okay, connections look okay, capacitors look happy, etc. But the circuit board itself seems to be able to move a little bit. Maybe something is grounding out every once in a while. The back of the keyboard feels a little warm just where that circuit board is. Guess I'll take it apart again later & see if stabilizing or insulating the circuit board is possible, and if so, if it helps. Liz On 27 May 2012 08:39, <kstratton(a)fastmail.us> wrote: > Glad you resolved your issue. If all the devices are USB compliant, > there should be no issue but I was under the incorrect impression that the > computer had some years on it and was working correctly earlier. Linux > generally does not magically deconfigure itself which left hardware > issues. > > > At risk of sounding way too obvious: > > If moderate wiggling the harness near the keyboard causes problems and > the keyboard is something special, I would consider re-doing the connection > between the keyboard and the USB wire (will need soldering and disassembly > of the keyboard). There is very likely a wire to the keyboard broken at a > mechanical stress point near the keyboard . This will shorten the wire to > the keyboard several inches. Although there is information about a maximum > legnth, I do not recall anything in the USB specification that specifically > states that the harness has to be a specific legnth (no shorter and no > longer than). This is a somewhat risky procedure, so I would proceed only > where confident. It is also possible the problem is as simple a connector > pulling out of a circuit board, but I doubt that that is the case. > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 01:59 PM, E Johnson wrote: > > Oh, interesting. Never thought of that. I had plugged in: > > One USB headset > one USB keyboard > one USB mouse, connected via USB extension cable > one USB connector for the scanner (which was not connected to the scanner, > just laying there) > > I think that's about it. The keyboard has 2 USB ports which I never use. > (had problem even before this keyboard existed) > > I think the keyboard shows up twice in lsusb because it has 2 USB ports. > > Have been running on the new computer 4 hours now, moving stuff to the new > hard drive, & the problem migrated here --it's 99% probably the keyboard. > If I wiggle the wire where it enters the keyboard, the keyboard stops or > starts working. The error messages, which appeared on several different > sets of hardware & peripherals, 3 diifferent operating systems, also are > appearing in this new computer. I guess the rror messages are a separate > issue --a red herring. > > Too bad; I really, really like this keyboard, but they don't make this > model any more. > > I guess it's Solved, or sorted out, anyway. 1) Need keyboard; 2) deal with > error messages another time. > > Thanks very much! > > Liz J > > On 26 May 2012 11:29, <kstratton(a)fastmail.us> wrote: > > > I am not an expert on USB or linux for that matter, although I am > currently trying to grop the USB spec so that I can develop a USB devce to > attach to the bus. > > From what I am looking at, it looks liks you are loosing and reconnecting > much more than just you keyboard. Do you have many USB powered devices > plugged in the motherboard? Is it possible to move them on to a powered > USB hub? Doing this would reduce the load on the 5V supplied by the > USB connectors. This is really a shot in the dark and is somthing I would > try only if I had a USB hub laying around. > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 10:32 AM, E Johnson wrote: > > We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. > > If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of > the time, but not always. > > If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a > different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. > > The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the > connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB > connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged > in back there. > > This is output of lsusb: > > Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. > Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. > Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > > The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no > clue. > > Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this > disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a > specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's > becoming more frequent now. > > I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching > with the right terms). > > I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of > which is pasted here below. > > I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different > computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running > an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a > different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. > > This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I > just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot > of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. > > Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. > I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. > Very frustratiing problem. > > Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks very much, > Liz J > > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, > address 27 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB > disconnect, address 28 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub > found > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports > detected > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device > found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device > strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB > 2.0 HUB > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: > GENESYS > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2619 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID > v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2620 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: > USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, > address 29 > May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB > disconnect, address 30 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub > found > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports > detected > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device > found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device > strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB > 2.0 HUB > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: > GENESYS > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2621 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID > v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2622 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: > USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 > > > > > > > *_______________________________________________* > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > kstratton(a)fastmail.us > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > *_______________________________________________* > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > kstratton(a)fastmail.us > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 27, 2012

Re: [Wlug] USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by kstratton＠fastmail.us

Glad you resolved your issue. If all the devices are USB compliant, there should be no issue but I was under the incorrect impression that the computer had some years on it and was working correctly earlier. Linux generally does not magically deconfigure itself which left hardware issues. At risk of sounding way too obvious: If moderate wiggling the harness near the keyboard causes problems and the keyboard is something special, I would consider re-doing the connection between the keyboard and the USB wire (will need soldering and disassembly of the keyboard). There is very likely a wire to the keyboard broken at a mechanical stress point near the keyboard . This will shorten the wire to the keyboard several inches. Although there is information about a maximum legnth, I do not recall anything in the USB specification that specifically states that the harness has to be a specific legnth (no shorter and no longer than). This is a somewhat risky procedure, so I would proceed only where confident. It is also possible the problem is as simple a connector pulling out of a circuit board, but I doubt that that is the case. On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 01:59 PM, E Johnson wrote: Oh, interesting. Never thought of that. I had plugged in: One USB headset one USB keyboard one USB mouse, connected via USB extension cable one USB connector for the scanner (which was not connected to the scanner, just laying there) I think that's about it. The keyboard has 2 USB ports which I never use. (had problem even before this keyboard existed) I think the keyboard shows up twice in lsusb because it has 2 USB ports. Have been running on the new computer 4 hours now, moving stuff to the new hard drive, & the problem migrated here --it's 99% probably the keyboard. If I wiggle the wire where it enters the keyboard, the keyboard stops or starts working. The error messages, which appeared on several different sets of hardware & peripherals, 3 diifferent operating systems, also are appearing in this new computer. I guess the rror messages are a separate issue --a red herring. Too bad; I really, really like this keyboard, but they don't make this model any more. I guess it's Solved, or sorted out, anyway. 1) Need keyboard; 2) deal with error messages another time. Thanks very much! Liz J On 26 May 2012 11:29, <[1]kstratton(a)fastmail.us> wrote: I am not an expert on USB or linux for that matter, although I am currently trying to grop the USB spec so that I can develop a USB devce to attach to the bus. >From what I am looking at, it looks liks you are loosing and reconnecting much more than just you keyboard. Do you have many USB powered devices plugged in the motherboard? Is it possible to move them on to a powered USB hub? Doing this would reduce the load on the 5V supplied by the USB connectors. This is really a shot in the dark and is somthing I would try only if I had a USB hub laying around. On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 10:32 AM, E Johnson wrote: We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of the time, but not always. If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged in back there. This is output of lsusb: Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no clue. Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's becoming more frequent now. I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching with the right terms). I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of which is pasted here below. I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. Very frustratiing problem. Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much, Liz J May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 27 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 28 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2619 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2620 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 29 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 30 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2621 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2622 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list [2]Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org [3]http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- [4]kstratton(a)fastmail.us _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list [5]Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org [6]http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list [7]Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org [8]http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug References 1. mailto:kstratton@fastmail.us 2. mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org 3. http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug 4. mailto:kstratton@fastmail.us 5. mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org 6. http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug 7. mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org 8. http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- kstratton(a)fastmail.us

May 27, 2012

Re: [Wlug] USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by E Johnson

Oh, interesting. Never thought of that. I had plugged in: One USB headset one USB keyboard one USB mouse, connected via USB extension cable one USB connector for the scanner (which was not connected to the scanner, just laying there) I think that's about it. The keyboard has 2 USB ports which I never use. (had problem even before this keyboard existed) I think the keyboard shows up twice in lsusb because it has 2 USB ports. Have been running on the new computer 4 hours now, moving stuff to the new hard drive, & the problem migrated here --it's 99% probably the keyboard. If I wiggle the wire where it enters the keyboard, the keyboard stops or starts working. The error messages, which appeared on several different sets of hardware & peripherals, 3 diifferent operating systems, also are appearing in this new computer. I guess the rror messages are a separate issue --a red herring. Too bad; I really, really like this keyboard, but they don't make this model any more. I guess it's Solved, or sorted out, anyway. 1) Need keyboard; 2) deal with error messages another time. Thanks very much! Liz J On 26 May 2012 11:29, <kstratton(a)fastmail.us> wrote: > > I am not an expert on USB or linux for that matter, although I am > currently trying to grop the USB spec so that I can develop a USB devce to > attach to the bus. > > From what I am looking at, it looks liks you are loosing and reconnecting > much more than just you keyboard. Do you have many USB powered devices > plugged in the motherboard? Is it possible to move them on to a powered > USB hub? Doing this would reduce the load on the 5V supplied by the > USB connectors. This is really a shot in the dark and is somthing I would > try only if I had a USB hub laying around. > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 10:32 AM, E Johnson wrote: > > We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. > > If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of > the time, but not always. > > If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a > different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. > > The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the > connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB > connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged > in back there. > > This is output of lsusb: > > Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. > Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. > Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > > The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no > clue. > > Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this > disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a > specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's > becoming more frequent now. > > I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching > with the right terms). > > I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of > which is pasted here below. > > I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different > computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running > an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a > different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. > > This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I > just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot > of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. > > Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. > I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. > Very frustratiing problem. > > Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks very much, > Liz J > > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, > address 27 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB > disconnect, address 28 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub > found > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports > detected > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device > found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device > strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB > 2.0 HUB > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: > GENESYS > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2619 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID > v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2620 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: > USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, > address 29 > May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB > disconnect, address 30 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub > found > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports > detected > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device > found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device > strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB > 2.0 HUB > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: > GENESYS > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2621 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID > v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2622 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: > USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 > > > > > > > *_______________________________________________* > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > kstratton(a)fastmail.us > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by kstratton＠fastmail.us

I am not an expert on USB or linux for that matter, although I am currently trying to grop the USB spec so that I can develop a USB devce to attach to the bus. >From what I am looking at, it looks liks you are loosing and reconnecting much more than just you keyboard. Do you have many USB powered devices plugged in the motherboard? Is it possible to move them on to a powered USB hub? Doing this would reduce the load on the 5V supplied by the USB connectors. This is really a shot in the dark and is somthing I would try only if I had a USB hub laying around. On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 10:32 AM, E Johnson wrote: We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of the time, but not always. If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged in back there. This is output of lsusb: Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no clue. Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's becoming more frequent now. I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching with the right terms). I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of which is pasted here below. I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. Very frustratiing problem. Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much, Liz J May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 27 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 28 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2619 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2620 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 29 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 30 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2621 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2622 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list [1]Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org [2]http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug References 1. mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org 2. http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- kstratton(a)fastmail.us

May 26, 2012

USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by E Johnson

We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of the time, but not always. If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged in back there. This is output of lsusb: Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no clue. Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's becoming more frequent now. I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching with the right terms). I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of which is pasted here below. I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. Very frustratiing problem. Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much, Liz J May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 27 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 28 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2619 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2620 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 29 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 30 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2621 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2622 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0

May 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting: Wed May 9, Morgan Hall

by Keith Wright

> From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > > This month, the Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting is > back to our usual Wednesday and our old location: Woops. I was just getting my things together to go over there when I decided to double check the place. I haven't forgotten you, I've forgotten myself. See you next month, I guess. -- Keith

May 10, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by E Johnson

Yes, the ls command did deliver me a list of files in the directory, sorted by filename. I was working from within the directory when I issued the command but it probably doesn't matter. Liz J On 9 May 2012 20:41, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > That worked. > Thanks, > Liz > > On 9 May 2012 19:08, Aljerin Butler,Jr. <albutlerjr(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> You can also try: >> ls | sort > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >>

May 10, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by E Johnson

That worked. Thanks, Liz On 9 May 2012 19:08, Aljerin Butler,Jr. <albutlerjr(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > You can also try: > ls | sort > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >

May 10, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by Brett Russ

I know this issue is solved/dead/buried, but there were a couple responses (below) that should be clarified. I was told in the past that ls stands for "list sorted", a statement I can't confirm from the usual internet fact check sites. In any case, it is specifically designed to (alphabetically) sort output, no need to invoke any other sorts. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Aljerin Butler,Jr. <albutlerjr(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > You can also try: > ls | sort > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > She said she wanted a sorted list, and the above commands will work > even if she creates subdirectories in the future. > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:10 PM, soup <soupforare(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Why not just 'ls > filelist.lst'?

May 9, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by Aljerin Butler,Jr.

You can also try: ls | sort > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >________________________________ > From: "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 12:00 PM >Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 103, Issue 3 > >----- Forwarded Message ----- > >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (E Johnson) > 2. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (Theo Van Dinter) > 3. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > (kevin.paetzold) > 4. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (E Johnson) > 5. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (Theo Van Dinter) > 6. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (E Johnson) >Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! > >I used: > >(in the directory I need output from) > >ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt > >That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we >can print it. > >Beautiful. Thanks guys! > >Liz > > >On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >> within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >> file? >> >> I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >> order to sort. >> >> Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >> >> I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >> probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >> names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >> >> I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >> >> Thanks extremely, >> Liz J > > >Even better, you don't need the "-1". ls determines if it's output is going to a tty and auto-enables the "-1" mode when it's not, such as when you're writing to a file. :) > > >I have to ask though, why would you put the list of files in a spreadsheet just to print it? Seems like something you could do via the machine itself (if printing is configured), or worst case you just print the text file. > > > >On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:22 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! >> >>I used: >> >>(in the directory I need output from) >> >> ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >> >>That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we >>can print it. >> >>Beautiful. Thanks guys! >> >>Liz >> >> >>On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >>> within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >>> file? >>> >>> I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >>> order to sort. >>> >>> Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >>> >>> I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >>> probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >>> names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >>> >>> I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >>> >>> Thanks extremely, >>> Liz J >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >i would do something like: >tree -f -i dirname > dirlist.txt > > >A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand >side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor >doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. >It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in >our directory. > >Or, I need a command which will print the filenames in several columns >(six, I think, with reasonlable space in between columns) on a series >of landscape-oriented pages. I probably need to define the font. I >think we used 8pt arial last time, which came out on one page. Now we >have 3x as many files in the directory but still need a printout for >reference. > >Liz > >On 8 May 2012 18:27, Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: >> Even better, you don't need the "-1". ls determines if it's output is going >> to a tty and auto-enables the "-1" mode when it's not, such as when you're >> writing to a file. :) >> >> I have to ask though, why would you put the list of files in a spreadsheet >> just to print it? Seems like something you could do via the machine itself >> (if printing is configured), or worst case you just print the text file. >> >> >> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:22 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! >>> >>> I used: >>> >>> (in the directory I need output from) >>> >>> ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >>> >>> That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we >>> can print it. >>> >>> Beautiful. Thanks guys! >>> >>> Liz >>> >>> >>> On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >>> > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >>> > file? >>> > >>> > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >>> > order to sort. >>> > >>> > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >>> > >>> > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >>> > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >>> > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >>> > >>> > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >>> > >>> > Thanks extremely, >>> > Liz J >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > >On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand >>side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor >>doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. >>It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in >>our directory. >> > > >So you want something similar to the terminal ls output, ie: filenames in columns? >You can do something like "ls | pr -6tT" which will generate a 6 column output w/ the filenames. >You can further tweak pr with other options. > >OK. That produced an output such as: > >005p080_081 038p332_333 040p392_393 100p112_113 405p074_075 414p230_231 >005p082_083 038p372_373 040p414_415 1044p39v_14 405p092_093 414p338_339 >005p094_095 038p378_379 040p450_451 1052p211v_2 405p196_197 414p428_429 >005p118_119 038p400_401 040p472_473 105p076_076 405p232_233 414p467_468 >005p124_125 038p426_427 040p482_483 106p396_397 405p250_251 416p064_065 >005p126_127 038p438_439 041p010_011 107p504_505 405p322_323 416p174_175 >005p150_151 038p590_591 041p068_069 107p512_513 405p328_329 416p198_199 >416p212_213 424p174_175 433p248_249 457p314_315 504p204_205 762Ap254_25 >416p294_295 425p006_007 434p216_217 459p068_069 661Ap032_03 762Ap266_26 >417p052_053 426p034_035 434p256_257 459p164_165 661p028_029 762p130_131 > >it printed to terminal. > >The ls command with redirect into text file did work though! All it >needed then was to copy/paste into word processor, then format into >colums, select font & type size. We got 500 filenames on 2 pages >horizontal. > >That's our checklist --it's done. Looks good. We're happy. > >Thanks again, >Liz > > >On 8 May 2012 20:18, Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: >> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand >>> side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor >>> doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. >>> It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in >>> our directory. >> >> >> So you want something similar to the terminal ls output, ie: filenames in >> columns? >> You can do something like "ls | pr -6tT" which will generate a 6 column >> output w/ the filenames. >> You can further tweak pr with other options. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

May 9, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file? SOLVED

by E Johnson

OK. That produced an output such as: 005p080_081 038p332_333 040p392_393 100p112_113 405p074_075 414p230_231 005p082_083 038p372_373 040p414_415 1044p39v_14 405p092_093 414p338_339 005p094_095 038p378_379 040p450_451 1052p211v_2 405p196_197 414p428_429 005p118_119 038p400_401 040p472_473 105p076_076 405p232_233 414p467_468 005p124_125 038p426_427 040p482_483 106p396_397 405p250_251 416p064_065 005p126_127 038p438_439 041p010_011 107p504_505 405p322_323 416p174_175 005p150_151 038p590_591 041p068_069 107p512_513 405p328_329 416p198_199 416p212_213 424p174_175 433p248_249 457p314_315 504p204_205 762Ap254_25 416p294_295 425p006_007 434p216_217 459p068_069 661Ap032_03 762Ap266_26 417p052_053 426p034_035 434p256_257 459p164_165 661p028_029 762p130_131 it printed to terminal. The ls command with redirect into text file did work though! All it needed then was to copy/paste into word processor, then format into colums, select font & type size. We got 500 filenames on 2 pages horizontal. That's our checklist --it's done. Looks good. We're happy. Thanks again, Liz On 8 May 2012 20:18, Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand >> side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor >> doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. >> It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in >> our directory. > > > So you want something similar to the terminal ls output, ie: filenames in > columns? > You can do something like "ls | pr -6tT" which will generate a 6 column > output w/ the filenames. > You can further tweak pr with other options. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 9, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file? SOLVED

by Theo Van Dinter

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand > side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor > doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. > It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in > our directory. > So you want something similar to the terminal ls output, ie: filenames in columns? You can do something like "ls | pr -6tT" which will generate a 6 column output w/ the filenames. You can further tweak pr with other options.

May 9, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file? SOLVED

by E Johnson

A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in our directory. Or, I need a command which will print the filenames in several columns (six, I think, with reasonlable space in between columns) on a series of landscape-oriented pages. I probably need to define the font. I think we used 8pt arial last time, which came out on one page. Now we have 3x as many files in the directory but still need a printout for reference. Liz On 8 May 2012 18:27, Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: > Even better, you don't need the "-1". ls determines if it's output is going > to a tty and auto-enables the "-1" mode when it's not, such as when you're > writing to a file. :) > > I have to ask though, why would you put the list of files in a spreadsheet > just to print it? Seems like something you could do via the machine itself > (if printing is configured), or worst case you just print the text file. > > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:22 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! >> >> I used: >> >> (in the directory I need output from) >> >> ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >> >> That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we >> can print it. >> >> Beautiful. Thanks guys! >> >> Liz >> >> >> On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >> > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >> > file? >> > >> > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >> > order to sort. >> > >> > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >> > >> > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >> > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >> > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >> > >> > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >> > >> > Thanks extremely, >> > Liz J >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by kevin.paetzold

i would do something like: tree -f -i dirname > dirlist.txt

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file? SOLVED

by Theo Van Dinter

Even better, you don't need the "-1". ls determines if it's output is going to a tty and auto-enables the "-1" mode when it's not, such as when you're writing to a file. :) I have to ask though, why would you put the list of files in a spreadsheet just to print it? Seems like something you could do via the machine itself (if printing is configured), or worst case you just print the text file. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:22 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! > > I used: > > (in the directory I need output from) > > ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt > > That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we > can print it. > > Beautiful. Thanks guys! > > Liz > > > On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames > > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text > > file? > > > > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in > > order to sort. > > > > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. > > > > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but > > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file > > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. > > > > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. > > > > Thanks extremely, > > Liz J > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file? SOLVED

by E Johnson

Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! I used: (in the directory I need output from) ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we can print it. Beautiful. Thanks guys! Liz On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text > file? > > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in > order to sort. > > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. > > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. > > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. > > Thanks extremely, > Liz J

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by Jason Couture

She said she wanted a sorted list, and the above commands will work even if she creates subdirectories in the future. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:10 PM, soup <soupforare(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Why not just 'ls > filelist.lst'? > > > On 5/8/2012 17:52, E Johnson wrote: >> Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >> within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >> file? >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by Jason Couture

Run this in that directory, should work on any linux distro with bash and grep. find -maxdepth 1 -type f -exec basename {} \; | sort | grep -v "filelist.txt" > filelist.txt This e-mail transmission, including any attachments, is intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this transmission in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and permanently delete this transmission, including any attachments. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:08 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Wow you guys are great. > > I need only the filesnames in a specific directory This has no > subdirectories, only about 400-500 files, all the same kind (pdf's) > > Liz > > > > On 8 May 2012 17:54, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Do you need just the current directory? or do you need to walk >> subdirectories as well? >> >> This e-mail transmission, including any attachments, is intended only >> for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is >> privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under >> applicable law. If you have received this transmission in error, or >> are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender immediately >> by return e-mail and permanently delete this transmission, including >> any attachments. >> >> >> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >>> within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >>> file? >>> >>> I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >>> order to sort. >>> >>> Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >>> >>> I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >>> probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >>> names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >>> >>> I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >>> >>> Thanks extremely, >>> Liz J >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by soup

Why not just 'ls > filelist.lst'? On 5/8/2012 17:52, E Johnson wrote: > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text > file? >

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by E Johnson

Wow you guys are great. I need only the filesnames in a specific directory This has no subdirectories, only about 400-500 files, all the same kind (pdf's) Liz On 8 May 2012 17:54, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Do you need just the current directory? or do you need to walk > subdirectories as well? > > This e-mail transmission, including any attachments, is intended only > for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is > privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under > applicable law. If you have received this transmission in error, or > are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender immediately > by return e-mail and permanently delete this transmission, including > any attachments. > > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >> within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >> file? >> >> I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >> order to sort. >> >> Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >> >> I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >> probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >> names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >> >> I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >> >> Thanks extremely, >> Liz J >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by Jason Couture

# Find all files in the current directory and sub-directories, sort them by name, and remove the leading ./ in their path. write filenames to filelist.txt find -type f | sort | cut -b 3- > filelist.txt # Find all files in the current directoy only, sort by name, remove leading ./ write filenames to filelist.txt find -maxdepth 1 -type f -exec basename {} \; | sort > filelist.txt On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text > file? > > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in > order to sort. > > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. > > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. > > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. > > Thanks extremely, > Liz J > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by John Platt

> will create a file. >> will append to it. ls will do and -a if you need the hidden files. So ls > filename.txt. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text > file? > > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in > order to sort. > > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. > > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. > > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. > > Thanks extremely, > Liz J > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by Jason Couture

Do you need just the current directory? or do you need to walk subdirectories as well? This e-mail transmission, including any attachments, is intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this transmission in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and permanently delete this transmission, including any attachments. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text > file? > > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in > order to sort. > > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. > > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. > > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. > > Thanks extremely, > Liz J > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 8, 2012

list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by E Johnson

Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text file? I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in order to sort. Don't need to know permissions or anything else. I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. Thanks extremely, Liz J

May 8, 2012

WLUG Meeting: Wed May 9, Morgan Hall

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, This month, the Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting is back to our usual Wednesday and our old location: Wednesday, May 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Morgan Hall What do people want to talk about this month? I can demo Fedora 17 and some of its new features, including one fairly controversial change: moving everything to /usr. Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

May 8, 2012