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Re: Stuck in traffic

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > I'm currently stuck in traffic I should be there for about 7:10 So how did the meeting go? Any comments or thoughts on ZFS and how it's useful and how it can be abused? I'm using ZFS on a TrueNAS Enterprise cluster, which works, but has it's issues, mostly around failover speed. Been spoiled by Netapps for too many years. I've also managed to make Oracle branded ZFS appliances fall over due to load, so I have reservations about ZFS to this day. I do like the *ideas* behind it, and some of the powerful features it has. But the layering violations make me worry. Just go look at the problems btrfs has had trying to do it's own RAID5 instead of just layering on top of MD RAID5 (which I also admit has had problems too! Nothing is perfect...). The goals of ZFS in terms of file content checksums are awesome, I really like that. I just wish there was a better way to actually shrink ZFS filesystems (even if done as any offline process) without jumping through all kinds of hoops. Anyway, I hope to see you all at the next meeting! John

Oct. 11, 2024

Stuck in traffic

by Tim Keller

I'm currently stuck in traffic I should be there for about 7:10

Oct. 10, 2024

Re: Reminder! WLUG Meeting tonight! Topic: ZFS!

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Time: 7pm > Date: Oct 10th, 2024 > Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St. Worcester MA > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > Topic: Zettabyte File System (ZFS). I thought I'd give a quick demo > of ZFS, what it is and how I'm using it in an enterprise > environment. I'll create some filesystems, do some hacky stuff with > them, etc.. Can you shrink it yet? > As usual, I'm sure we'll chat about lots of other stuff as well.. > I hope to see you there! > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/A2E5K…

Oct. 10, 2024

Reminder! WLUG Meeting tonight! Topic: ZFS!

by Tim Keller

Time: 7pm Date: Oct 10th, 2024 Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St. Worcester MA Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: Zettabyte File System (ZFS). I thought I'd give a quick demo of ZFS, what it is and how I'm using it in an enterprise environment. I'll create some filesystems, do some hacky stuff with them, etc.. As usual, I'm sure we'll chat about lots of other stuff as well.. I hope to see you there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 10, 2024

Re: Meeting tomorrow!! Oct 10th 2024!

by John Stoffel

Sorry all, I can't make it, have my show opening that night. Come see "39 Steps" at Calliope Theatre in Boylston over the next two weekends! Jphn

Oct. 9, 2024

Meeting tomorrow!! Oct 10th 2024!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! Sorry for the late notice.. Frankly our entire house was under the weather with covid.. it sucked. But we're all negative and feeling better! We've got a meeting Tomorrow at Technocopia! Date: Oct 10th 2024 Time: 7PM Location: 44 Portland St Worcester MA Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: TBD.. Would be interested in me doing a ZFS demo? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 9, 2024

Re: Testing?

by Joshua Stone

Indeed, make sure to patch CUPS as soon as possible! https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-response-openprinting-cups-vulnerabi… - Josh On Fri, Sep 27, 2024, 4:36 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Just making sure that people are getting my emails.. > > Patch your CUPS if you haven't already! > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/4DYHG… >

Oct. 1, 2024

Re: Testing?

by Tim Keller

Rimshot.gif On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 8:08 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Keith" == Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > >> Just making sure that people are getting my emails.. > > > Is there a reason to doubt it? You send two or three every month. > > But how many of you reply? Hmmm? > > > >> Patch your CUPS if you haven't already! > > > Why do you care if my BRA is torn? > > LOL!!!! > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 1, 2024

Re: Intersection of Open Source and Social Change

by Dennis Payne

I joined the preserve.games lemmy instance. Since it is distributed, I figured it didn't matter which site I was on and I liked the mission of preserve.games. I subscribed to two communities on lemmy.ml. Subscribe is still pending. One from ttrpg.network is also pending. It doesn't seem like I'm consistently seeing posts. I tried engaging for a while but it seemed like it wasn't worth the effort. Maybe it works better if you are on a major site. On Sat, 2024-09-28 at 09:27 -0400, Gregory Boyce via WLUG wrote: > Open Source software in general has facilitated a massive transfer of > wealth upwards over the past few decades. There are the tools and > their histories, and then there are how we want to use them moving > forward. > > We could certainly choose different software than Lemmy though. > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 4:40 PM Nick Krichevsky via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > Lemmy is cool conceptually, but FYI, since you're thinking about > > social change, the maintainers of Lemmy are fascist-sympathisers > > ("tankies" is the term to Google for). > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/PGMMM… > > > -- > Greg > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/FKJTO… -- Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@dulsi

Sept. 30, 2024

Re: Testing?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Keith" == Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> Just making sure that people are getting my emails.. > Is there a reason to doubt it? You send two or three every month. But how many of you reply? Hmmm? >> Patch your CUPS if you haven't already! > Why do you care if my BRA is torn? LOL!!!!

Sept. 29, 2024

Re: Intersection of Open Source and Social Change

by Gregory Boyce

Open Source software in general has facilitated a massive transfer of wealth upwards over the past few decades. There are the tools and their histories, and then there are how we want to use them moving forward. We could certainly choose different software than Lemmy though. On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 4:40 PM Nick Krichevsky via WLUG < wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Lemmy is cool conceptually, but FYI, since you're thinking about social > change, the maintainers of Lemmy are fascist-sympathisers ("tankies" is the > term to Google for). > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2024, 8:19 AM Gregory Boyce via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> Awesome. I'll have to try to make it to an upcoming event. >> >> I was thinking about setting up either a Matrix server for chat, or a >> Lemmy server for a reddit-like set of discussion forums. >> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 7:48 PM Kevin Harrington < >> mad.hephaestus(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Count me in! I have been working on a book on the topic for a few years >>> on and off. Fyi just about every meeting of Robot Club turns into one of >>> those sort of discussions. We meet at technocopia Saturdays 1-4. >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2024, 7:34 PM Gregory Boyce via WLUG < >>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey folks, >>>> >>>> At dinner after the last meeting we had an interesting conversation >>>> around the intersection of software/technology and big picture social >>>> change. This has been an area of interest of mine for a while now, and I'd >>>> love to connect with other people who would be interested in talking about >>>> ways to make meaningful change. >>>> >>>> Would anyone be interested in joining a discussion on something like >>>> Discord, Slack, or maybe an open source alternative? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Greg Boyce >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>> Change Settings: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/BNJIS… >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Greg >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ERVCY… >> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/PGMMM… > -- Greg

Sept. 28, 2024

Re: Intersection of Open Source and Social Change

by Tim Keller

Greg, Sorry your reply took so long, for whatever reason the wlug mail server decided to hold the mail.. Thanks, Tim. On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 4:39 PM Nick Krichevsky via WLUG < wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Lemmy is cool conceptually, but FYI, since you're thinking about social > change, the maintainers of Lemmy are fascist-sympathisers ("tankies" is the > term to Google for). > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2024, 8:19 AM Gregory Boyce via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> Awesome. I'll have to try to make it to an upcoming event. >> >> I was thinking about setting up either a Matrix server for chat, or a >> Lemmy server for a reddit-like set of discussion forums. >> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 7:48 PM Kevin Harrington < >> mad.hephaestus(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Count me in! I have been working on a book on the topic for a few years >>> on and off. Fyi just about every meeting of Robot Club turns into one of >>> those sort of discussions. We meet at technocopia Saturdays 1-4. >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2024, 7:34 PM Gregory Boyce via WLUG < >>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey folks, >>>> >>>> At dinner after the last meeting we had an interesting conversation >>>> around the intersection of software/technology and big picture social >>>> change. This has been an area of interest of mine for a while now, and I'd >>>> love to connect with other people who would be interested in talking about >>>> ways to make meaningful change. >>>> >>>> Would anyone be interested in joining a discussion on something like >>>> Discord, Slack, or maybe an open source alternative? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Greg Boyce >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>> Change Settings: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/BNJIS… >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Greg >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ERVCY… >> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/PGMMM… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 28, 2024

Re: Testing?

by Keith Wright

Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> Patch your CUPS if you haven't already! > > Why do you care if my BRA is torn? Nick Krichevsky via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > the maintainers of Lemmy are fascist-sympathisers ("tankies" is > the term to Google for). Did that. Got the T-shirt. Now I understand: https://getsprints.com/collections/womens-tankie

Sept. 28, 2024

Re: Testing?

by Keith Wright

Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Just making sure that people are getting my emails.. Is there a reason to doubt it? You send two or three every month. > Patch your CUPS if you haven't already! Why do you care if my BRA is torn? -- Keith

Sept. 28, 2024

Re: Testing?

by hammerron

Loud and clear On September 27, 2024 4:35:40 PM EDT, Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >Just making sure that people are getting my emails.. > >Patch your CUPS if you haven't already! > >-- >I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 28, 2024

Testing?

by Tim Keller

Just making sure that people are getting my emails.. Patch your CUPS if you haven't already! -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 27, 2024

Python with Braces

by John Stoffel

Python with Braces, my prayers have been answered! https://github.com/mathialo/bython

Sept. 24, 2024

Re: Ubuntu 24.04.1 annoyance (thunderbird)

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Stratton via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > I am porting my (limited) stuff to Ubuntu 24.0.1 You mean you're upgrading your system to Ubuntu 24.0.1 with 'do-release-upgrade'? > My ram had another failure and Ubuntu 22.04 entered into a state > where I could not install or uninstall any thing. I did different > things to repair this. I had no luck in fixing this. Post some errors, but I suspect you need to fix your apt package database. I usually use the CLI, so if you can open an xterm, it would be helpful to get the output of the following commands sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade And if you get reports of problems, you might do: sudo apt-get install --fix-broken to see if that helps. > I decided to get thundebird Email working and I hit a suprise. So if you can't install packages, how did you get this installed? > I do not get a visible Thunderbird icon when I installed > thunderbird. It also seems to be already installed (In installed > the optional ëxtras¨when I installed Ubuntu). > I had to fix the desktop icon by commenting out NoDisplay=true in > a copy of the file thunderbird.desktop that I moved to > ~/local/share/applications. Funky... > I wonder if this is partly due to this being the type of application > that would be supported by the subscription service. Has nothing to do with subscription service, I just suspect you have an old old old install which needs to be cleaned up. As I recall, you were upgrading from ubuntu 18.04 right? So I suspect you might have some old packages installed which are holding you back. If you can, do: dpkg-query -l > /tmp/packages.txt and then email me or the list the file as an attachement. I can look it over and give you suggestions on what you maybe remove. Good luck! John

Sept. 23, 2024

Ubuntu 24.04.1 annoyance (thunderbird)

by Kevin Stratton

I am porting my (limited) stuff to Ubuntu 24.0.1 My ram had another failure and Ubuntu 22.04 entered into a state where I could not install or uninstall any thing. I did different things to repair this. I had no luck in fixing this. I decided to get thundebird Email working and I hit a suprise. I do not get a visible Thunderbird icon when I installed thunderbird. It also seems to be already installed (In installed the optional ëxtras¨when I installed Ubuntu). I had to fix the desktop icon by commenting out NoDisplay=true in a copy of the file thunderbird.desktop that I moved to ~/local/share/applications. I wonder if this is partly due to this being the type of application that would be supported by the subscription service.

Sept. 23, 2024

Re: old equipment - update

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Pete" == Pete Wason via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Hi, again -- Tried to make it to the last meeting but was abducted, again. Bummers, it was a good meeting! > Most of the old equipment I had at work is gone. I was told to clear > out the room and they found a STEM teacher at a local school who > took it. This is what's left: > (3) Dell PER805 2U rackmount servers (dual opteron) - w/ 1 set of > rails, several new 2.5" SAS spares How loud is this, and can you give more technical details? Speed, core count, memory, etc? > Dell PER415 1U rackmount server (opteron) - w/ separate H700 > HBA+cables, may have 8TB SATA HDD pulls installed (?) (I was unable > to figure out how to make this thing do RAID10; the adaptor itself > is worth something) Maybe, if you can get it to run in pass-thru mode without using the builtin PERC RAID controller. They're usually a pain, and I never trust them. > (3) Dell monitor stands w/o panels Can you give more details on this? Are these VESA mounts? I could use one at my local theatre to mount a monitor onto a wall/desk arm to make some space. I'm also happy to make a run to pickup stuff at pretty much any time. John

Sept. 22, 2024

oops, forgot these..

by Pete Wason

I also still have the two Celeros rackmount storage arrays, 32-bays each, one Xeon-based, the other Opteron-based, with rails. BO! Thx Pete

Sept. 21, 2024

old equipment - update

by Pete Wason

Hi, again -- Tried to make it to the last meeting but was abducted, again. Most of the old equipment I had at work is gone. I was told to clear out the room and they found a STEM teacher at a local school who took it. This is what's left: Synology RS2416+ rackmount NAS w/ (2) RX1217 expansion units, AC + SAS cables - (36) 3.5" bays total (3) Dell PER805 2U rackmount servers (dual opteron) - w/ 1 set of rails, several new 2.5" SAS spares Dell PER300 1U rackmount server (dual xeon) - w/ rails, and a bunch of 3.5" SAS HDDs (pulls and new) Dell PER415 1U rackmount server (opteron) - w/ separate H700 HBA+cables, may have 8TB SATA HDD pulls installed (?) (I was unable to figure out how to make this thing do RAID10; the adaptor itself is worth something) Various 3.5" HDD pulls of various brands and sizes from 250GB to 2TB (2) Dell docking stations with AC adaptors Dell dock/monitor stand w/ no display panel (3) Dell monitor stands w/o panels Best offer. Anything left by the end of the month will go to recycling. Pete

Sept. 20, 2024

Linux history timeline

by John Stoffel

In the vein of the past few meetings talks on history of Linux and Unix, I present this! https://www.levenez.com/unix/

Sept. 16, 2024

conserver

by John Stoffel

Guys, Patrick and I were talking serial ports for systems so you can access their console, and using Digi CM32 network serial concentrators to give access to multiple systems with telnet to specific ports. Then I mentioned an fantastic tool called 'conserver' which I use to manage a bunch of remote systems. Really works well. https://www.conserver.com/ So you do have to configure it (and I can help if you run into problems) but what is really gives you is the ability to do: console <name> and it will connect you to a console for a specific host. That can be a local serial port (which is where conserver started, using Cyclom-Y or -Z serial cards!), or an ipmi port, or a telnet connction to a remote port on a serial port concentrator, etc. So instead of having to memorize details, you just know names. And it offers loggins, access controls, multi-person access at the same time (one writer, many readers). It's not sexy, but when you need it, it really rocks. John

Sept. 14, 2024

Oops! The meeting is also virtual!!

by Tim Keller

The meeting will also be online at our usual Jitsi location! https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 11, 2024