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Re: [Wlug] Installfest

by doug waud

Michael Long wrote: > After rebooting I get the lilo prompt to select an OS. I select windows > and am then presented another lilo prompt (SuSE 7.0?) to select an OS. > After choosing windows a second time, windows is successfully launched. > > This accomplishes what I need...but it would be nice to understand what > is happening so I could get rid of the second OS prompt. Take a look at /etc/lilo.conf I expect you will see a line message=/boot/message and, if you try to cat /boot/message you will see gibberish (i.e. it is not ASCII but code for that SuSE window.) If you comment out/delete that message= line and then run lilo you should no longer see the SuSE stuff, If you wish, you can now add a line message=/boot/mymessage where mymessage is just a text file to echo whatever reminders you want at boot time. For example, I have used lines like for linux type l for windows type w (where my lilo.conf has lines label=l and label=w to match; I am lazy and like to type just one letter). Alternatively, you have no message= line and just use tab to list the options. doug

Oct. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium

by Gary Hanley

On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Brian J.Conway wrote: > Sure, but since Intel and AMD have both sworn themselves to support > Palladium in their hardware, there aren't that many choices left in that > area of the consumer market (VIA, I suppose). Have they sworn support or paying it lip-service at this point. I think I read somewhere that they are internally not in favor of Palladium but are being pressured to incorporate it, and if there is enough resistance they will have a reason to drop off. Maybe it was just AMD? I don't remember where I read that...sorry. > The disks aren't the issue, it's having software that the > Palladium-enabled BIOS says is okay to boot. Where it's booting from > doesn't matter. Well the grand scheme being pushed by Hollywood includes updates to the disk BIOS. Although I didn't read it specifically I would assume they would leave SCSI alone since SCSI are essentially business disks and EIDE are consumer disks. So if you build a system that looks like a business server maybe Palladium will let it pass? :-| -- Gary

Oct. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] backup recomendation

by Michael Long

I have a backup script that uses tar to back up files to disk. It does a full backup monthly, full backup weekly(file recycled monthly), incremental backups daily(file recycled weekly). I would be happy to send it to you if you would like. --mike > > I've used BRU in the past. I'm not that excited about it. It seems > bascly to be a GUI front end to TAR Most backup utils seem to be > geared towards tapes. Since i'm backing up to hard drives its a > littele different. > > I'm still expermenting with my custom tar scripts, thanks for the > suggestions tho. > > > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Andy Stewart wrote: > > > On Thursday 24 October 2002 9:55 am, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > > What do people out there use for backup tools. Anyone use Amanda? > > > Any good? > > > > HI Karl, > > > > I use BRU at home for my backups on my SCSI TR5 tape drive and it works great. > > It is a commercial product and you can find more info here: > > > > http://www.tolisgroup.com/ > > > > Also, for a while I used Arkeia which seems to be more for professional > > environments and not for home users. It is also a commercial product. You > > can find more info here: > > > > http://www.arkeia.com/ > > > > Later, > > > > Andy > > > > > > -- > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > Cell: 508-517-4819 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > "People should have access to the data which you have about them. There should > be a process for them to challenge any inaccuracies." > -- Arthur Miller > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

Oct. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] backup recomendation

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 08:57:49AM -0400, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > That doesn't satisfy my need for daily incremental backups. A Hard > drive a day is way too expensive :) I guess it depends how much data you're backing up. I've heard of 160GB drives for ~$117, which is roughly ~$0.73 per GB (if you're on the SAGE mailing list, you've seen that thread...) That's a better price than the backup tapes required to get the same storage capacity. But if you're only backing up 8GB, then it's not so good. ;) I personally have HW RAID 1 to handle single disk failures, xfsdump level 0 weekly and level 1 daily online to a seperate section of hard drive (I keep 2 copies of each type of backup, so I have 2 weeklys and 2 dailys. It handles the standard "lost/corrupted my file", etc, requests), and a weekly disaster recovery backup using BRU to DDS2 tape (still only need 1 tape at the moment... :) ) which I hope to never use (it handles restore requests for > 1-2 weeks, and handles the issue if the RAID controller or both drives die at once, or I get cracked, or ...) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "No animals were harmed in this production. Any resemblence to other smoking cats, real or imagined, is purely coincidental." - Richard Basile

Oct. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] backup recomendation

by Karl Hiramoto

I've used BRU in the past. I'm not that excited about it. It seems bascly to be a GUI front end to TAR Most backup utils seem to be geared towards tapes. Since i'm backing up to hard drives its a littele different. I'm still expermenting with my custom tar scripts, thanks for the suggestions tho. On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Thursday 24 October 2002 9:55 am, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > What do people out there use for backup tools. Anyone use Amanda? > > Any good? > > HI Karl, > > I use BRU at home for my backups on my SCSI TR5 tape drive and it works great. > It is a commercial product and you can find more info here: > > http://www.tolisgroup.com/ > > Also, for a while I used Arkeia which seems to be more for professional > environments and not for home users. It is also a commercial product. You > can find more info here: > > http://www.arkeia.com/ > > Later, > > Andy > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø "People should have access to the data which you have about them. There should be a process for them to challenge any inaccuracies." -- Arthur Miller

Oct. 25, 2002

RE: [Wlug] backup recomendation

by Karl Hiramoto

That doesn't satisfy my need for daily incremental backups. A Hard drive a day is way too expensive :) On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Marc Hughes wrote: > I'm not sure if this is feasible at all, but could you use software raid > and mirror your normal disk to the removeable one? Just a wacky > solution that I thought of when someone mentioned LVM ... > > -Marc > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 12:04 AM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] backup recomendation > > > On Thursday 24 October 2002 9:55 am, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > What do people out there use for backup tools. Anyone use Amanda? Any > > > good? > > HI Karl, > > I use BRU at home for my backups on my SCSI TR5 tape drive and it works > great. > It is a commercial product and you can find more info here: > > http://www.tolisgroup.com/ > > Also, for a while I used Arkeia which seems to be more for professional > environments and not for home users. It is also a commercial product. > You > can find more info here: > > http://www.arkeia.com/ > > Later, > > Andy > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø "People should have access to the data which you have about them. There should be a process for them to challenge any inaccuracies." -- Arthur Miller

Oct. 25, 2002

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by Setag Lib

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Oct. 25, 2002

RE: [Wlug] backup recomendation

by Marc Hughes

I just started using arkeia the other day, and I'm rather impressed so far. They give you a 2 client license of version 4.2 for free (so you can backup the server, and 2 linux or windows clients) if you're using a linux backup server. You can make backups to tape or disk with it. Plus it has a little bit of eye candy; while backups are running, you can log in with the gui client (java client that works on a bunch of platforms) and see the speed at which the backups are running in a speedometer style display ... Hey, what can I say, I like pretty things :) I'm not sure if this is feasible at all, but could you use software raid and mirror your normal disk to the removeable one? Just a wacky solution that I thought of when someone mentioned LVM ... -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 12:04 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] backup recomendation On Thursday 24 October 2002 9:55 am, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > What do people out there use for backup tools. Anyone use Amanda? Any > good? HI Karl, I use BRU at home for my backups on my SCSI TR5 tape drive and it works great. It is a commercial product and you can find more info here: http://www.tolisgroup.com/ Also, for a while I used Arkeia which seems to be more for professional environments and not for home users. It is also a commercial product. You can find more info here: http://www.arkeia.com/ Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium

by Brian J.Conway

> > The problem I see is when you go out and buy a PC, blowout the > > partitions that have "longhorn" (MS's next OS) and install linux, > > reboot the machine and get this error at the POST screen: > > Of course, in this day and age you should be building your own. It's > a lot easier than it used to be and you get to pick and choose exactly > which components you want - hardware & software! Sure, but since Intel and AMD have both sworn themselves to support Palladium in their hardware, there aren't that many choices left in that area of the consumer market (VIA, I suppose). > > "TCPA Error: BOOT DEVICE DOES NOT CONTAIN VALID BOOT KEY" > > If something like this may comes to pass then you'll have to shell out > more dough for SCSI disks I guess. Not entirely bad...just more > expensive. The disks aren't the issue, it's having software that the Palladium-enabled BIOS says is okay to boot. Where it's booting from doesn't matter. Theoretically, of course. I wonder where I put my tinfoil hat. Brian J. Conway bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992

Oct. 25, 2002

RE: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium

by Gary Hanley

On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Keller, Tim wrote: > The problem I see is when you go out and buy a PC, blowout the partitions > that have "longhorn" (MS's next OS) and install linux, reboot the machine > and get this error at the POST screen: Of course, in this day and age you should be building your own. It's a lot easier than it used to be and you get to pick and choose exactly which components you want - hardware & software! > "TCPA Error: BOOT DEVICE DOES NOT CONTAIN VALID BOOT KEY" If something like this may comes to pass then you'll have to shell out more dough for SCSI disks I guess. Not entirely bad...just more expensive. -- Gary

Oct. 25, 2002