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Reminder: Meeting Thursday April 14th 2016 NOTE LOCATION!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! Here are the details: Date: April 14th, 2016 Time: 7pm Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 Topic: None Currently. If someone wants to speak let me know! I've reached out to a bunch of people but schedules/etc. have gotten in the way. Worse case scenario, we simply nerd out... If people are interested I can speak about hadoop and what's gone into building the clusters and some of the hardware and management challenges I've dealt with. Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech pizza afterwards for some slices and more banter! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 12, 2016

Meeting Reminder! April 14th, 2016 @ 7pm NOTE: Location change!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Our next meeting is going to be April 14th, 2016! We're going to be back in At-Water Kent Rm 232. As for a speaker nothing has panned out yet, so we'll see. Worse case I can talk about ansible. As usual snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll head to Tech to keep talking shop and eat some pizza! Later, Tim.

April 6, 2016

Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues

by John Stoffel

Gary> Yes, that's what I was doing but after I chose this the Mint installer Gary> wasn't seeing any partitions. Removed GPT record with gdisk and that Gary> fixed it. Gary> On 03/25/2016 11:49 AM, John Stoffel wrote: >> You're talking about the MINT installer, right? In any case, I think >> you need to make sure that you boot into Win10, shrink the C:\ drive >> and leave free space on the disk. >> >> The in the mint installer you need to select the custom disk >> partitioning scheme, since you need to find and select the space by >> hand. I think you should be able to understand GPT partitions with both GRUB and Mint these days... but haven't tested it myself in detail.

April 1, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Mike Peckar

> It is interesting that they are bringing some type of *IX support back... Peter Pouliot, who is the MS guy working on getting Hyper-V support back into OpenStack, spoke at last year's PuppetConf in Boston, and said that *nix stacks will likely come back into MS products so MS can play with the likes of OpenStack and similar opensource tools making their way into devOps, EntOps, cloud apps and big data. In essence, he indicated they're panicking and they should be. Mike

March 31, 2016

good article Q+A with Linus Torvalds

by Doug Mildram

doug> The joys of project management! About which I know very little. I only noticed this because the IEEE......... (which i joined for a short year, then they keep sending me weekly/monthly stuff for free on email, plus they keep begging me to re-join) sent me links to..... http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/linux-at-25-qa-with-linus-torva… doug> My favorite take-home (one comment/reply to the line below said: "everyone knows that!" ) Linux is a kernel, not an entire operating system. but in the article, Linus got quoted saying... If I had known what I know today when I started, I would never have had the chutzpah to start writing my own operating system: You need a certain amount of naïveté to think that you can do it.

March 31, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Chuck Anderson

Windows NT/XP/7/8 had the POSIX subsystem and then the Interix subsystem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interix But they deprecated it in Windows 8 and don't support it at all on Windows 10. It is interesting that they are bringing some type of *IX support back... On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 05:42:54PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > As one of my co-workers pointed out... the MS file model is fundamentally > incompatible with the linux model. Try renaming a file in windows that > someone else has open... try deleting a file someone has open. > > There are lots and lots of linux programs that do that last trick... create > a temp file, open it and then delete it... use it for scratch space and > then when they close it... *poof* it's gone. > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Dennis Payne <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> > wrote: > > > Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically > > interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin. I > > imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it support > > SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I might install > > it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install. > > > > On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > > > > > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspa… > > > > They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows > > syscalls... > > > > Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. > > > > Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now that > > it'll be running sshd. > > > > Tim.

March 31, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Tim Keller

As one of my co-workers pointed out... the MS file model is fundamentally incompatible with the linux model. Try renaming a file in windows that someone else has open... try deleting a file someone has open. There are lots and lots of linux programs that do that last trick... create a temp file, open it and then delete it... use it for scratch space and then when they close it... *poof* it's gone. On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Dennis Payne <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> wrote: > Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically > interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin. I > imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it support > SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I might install > it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install. > > On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspa… > > They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows > syscalls... > > Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. > > Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now that > it'll be running sshd. > > Tim. > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing listWlug@mail.wlug.orghttp://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 30, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Dennis Payne

Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin. I imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it support SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I might install it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install. On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-u > serspace-for-windows-developers/ > > They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows > syscalls... > > Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. > > Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now > that it'll be running sshd. > > Tim. > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 30, 2016

Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Tim Keller

https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspa… They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows syscalls... Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now that it'll be running sshd. Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 30, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Block-level remote file sync?

by Keith Wright

Chris <wolcen(a)riseup.net> writes: > Thanks in advance! Hope you are all well. > --Chris > > PS - LibrePlanet was pretty fun :) Fine, thank you. -- Keith PS: I was there, at least on Saturday. Were you hiding, or do I not know what Chris looks like? Hint: the law of excluded middle is irrelevant, as is relevance logic. Answer: Give up? B the latter, and/or both/either A, the former, and/or B. PPS: I suppose I could Google what LOPSA stands for, but I don't care.

March 29, 2016