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Re: Keysigning party?

by John Stoffel

Tim> The argument for pgp signing your emails is that it makes it Tim> harder for others to spoof your email address. Yes. I understand that aspect. Iwas (poorly) talking more to the usability aspects of PGP signing emails. The tools make it hard and annoying from what I see. Tim> If I send you an email signed with my private key and the public version of my key is a place Tim> where your email client can access it, your email client can validate that the email originated Tim> from me. John> I've never found a personal need for this myself. Tim> Lucky you that you've never had your email address harvested from Tim> a public list and then used to spam lots of people... Well, my personal email is from a server I control with SPF setup properly, so it's harder to fake stuff from em without it automatically getting binned as spam. Which is a good thing. It's not perfect of course...

Jan. 27, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: Keysigning party?

by Anderson, Charles R

It's also used heavily in FOSS development to verify authenticity of developer communications. On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 02:38:47PM -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > The argument for pgp signing your emails is that it makes it harder for > others to spoof your email address. > > If I send you an email signed with my private key and the public version of > my key is a place where your email client can access it, your email client > can validate that the email originated from me. > > John> I've never found a personal need for this myself. > > Lucky you that you've never had your email address harvested from a public > list and then used to spam lots of people... > > Tim. > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 2:30 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > > >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > > > > Tim> That would be a fantastic idea. I think part and parcel with > > Tim> doing the Keysigning should be a presentation on how to > > Tim> actually use the PGP key you've now created... How do you > > Tim> integrate your key into gmail / etc. > > > > All I've ever heard about PGP signing emails is "Don't", even from the > > PGP creator, supposedly. But maybe I'm wrong and someone giving a > > good presentation (any CS classes on security who would be interested > > in joining for this talk?) would be nice. > > > > I've never found a personal need for this myself.

Jan. 27, 2020

Re: Keysigning party?

by Tim Keller

The argument for pgp signing your emails is that it makes it harder for others to spoof your email address. If I send you an email signed with my private key and the public version of my key is a place where your email client can access it, your email client can validate that the email originated from me. John> I've never found a personal need for this myself. Lucky you that you've never had your email address harvested from a public list and then used to spam lots of people... Tim. On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 2:30 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > Tim> That would be a fantastic idea. I think part and parcel with > Tim> doing the Keysigning should be a presentation on how to > Tim> actually use the PGP key you've now created... How do you > Tim> integrate your key into gmail / etc. > > All I've ever heard about PGP signing emails is "Don't", even from the > PGP creator, supposedly. But maybe I'm wrong and someone giving a > good presentation (any CS classes on security who would be interested > in joining for this talk?) would be nice. > > I've never found a personal need for this myself. > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 27, 2020

Re: Different topic... Embroidered T-shirts!

by John Stoffel

Tim> I've come into possession of a brother embroidery machine! Very neat! Should be emminently hackable at some point. Can you post more details? What sort of interface does it have? Tim> I'd like to get it working with linux, but I'll just be happy to Tim> start putting WLUG and the tux penguin on a polo shirt! Tim> Hopefully for the Feb. meeting I'll have something! Very cool. Please don't have a meeting 17-21 of Feb week... that's school vacation week!

Jan. 27, 2020

Re: Keysigning party?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: Tim> That would be a fantastic idea. I think part and parcel with Tim> doing the Keysigning should be a presentation on how to Tim> actually use the PGP key you've now created... How do you Tim> integrate your key into gmail / etc. All I've ever heard about PGP signing emails is "Don't", even from the PGP creator, supposedly. But maybe I'm wrong and someone giving a good presentation (any CS classes on security who would be interested in joining for this talk?) would be nice. I've never found a personal need for this myself.

Jan. 27, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: Keysigning party?

by Anderson, Charles R

Right, you have to create your key and submit it to the organizers BEFORE the actual keysigning meeting, so that at the keysigning other people will have a copy of your public key fingerprint to compare with the copy of your key that they later download or get emailed to them. So we should have a PGP meeting first, then a keysigning party the next month or whatever. Here's my ancient slides on the topic, but if someone else wants to update this, feel free: http://www.wlug.org/files/pgp-slides/ Using "caff" is a good idea: https://wiki.debian.org/caff https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KeySigningParty On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:08:03AM -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > Ian, > > That would be a fantastic idea. I think part and parcel with doing the > Keysigning should be a presentation on how to *actually* use the PGP key > you've now created... > How do you integrate your key into gmail / etc. > > Tim. > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 8:29 AM Gelman, Ian S. via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I keep noticing several encrypted emails flying back and forth on the WLUG > > listserv. It occurred to me that we haven't done a PGP keysigning party in > > a couple of years - maybe we're due for another? It could also be a way to > > introduce some new student members to the group.

Jan. 24, 2020

Re: Different topic... Embroidered T-shirts!

by Tim Keller

I recently did up a pretty shitty WLUG icon tile for the meetup group. I thought that would look pretty cool on a T-shirt. https://imgur.com/a/1CmyhDG If people have better ideas I'll take them! On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:08 PM Joel <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If successful, a tux penguin > polo could be "Geek Chic". > > Tag line could be, swim like a bird! > > Joel > > > > On January 24, 2020 12:03:11 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> I've come into possession of a brother embroidery machine! >> >> I'd like to get it working with linux, but I'll just be happy to start >> putting WLUG and the tux penguin on a polo shirt! >> >> Hopefully for the Feb. meeting I'll have something! >> >> Later, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> >> > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 24, 2020

Re: Different topic... Embroidered T-shirts!

by Joel

If successful, a tux penguin polo could be "Geek Chic". Tag line could be, swim like a bird! Joel On January 24, 2020 12:03:11 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > I've come into possession of a brother embroidery machine! > > I'd like to get it working with linux, but I'll just be happy to start putting WLUG and the tux penguin on a polo shirt! > > Hopefully for the Feb. meeting I'll have something! > > Later, > Tim. > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Jan. 24, 2020

Different topic... Embroidered T-shirts!

by Tim Keller

I've come into possession of a brother embroidery machine! I'd like to get it working with linux, but I'll just be happy to start putting WLUG and the tux penguin on a polo shirt! Hopefully for the Feb. meeting I'll have something! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 24, 2020

Re: Keysigning party?

by Tim Keller

Ian, That would be a fantastic idea. I think part and parcel with doing the Keysigning should be a presentation on how to *actually* use the PGP key you've now created... How do you integrate your key into gmail / etc. Tim. On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 8:29 AM Gelman, Ian S. via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I keep noticing several encrypted emails flying back and forth on the WLUG > listserv. It occurred to me that we haven't done a PGP keysigning party in > a couple of years - maybe we're due for another? It could also be a way to > introduce some new student members to the group. > > Ian (from mobile device) > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 24, 2020