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Re: [Wlug] CUPS + Samba + Win2000

by Brad Noyes

Hi, is there anything in /var/log/cups/? -brad

July 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] CUPS + Samba + Win2000

by jeff

Michael Frysinger wrote: > problem: print jobs sent to cups via samba from windows > sit in print queue and never get processed > > printer: HP OfficeJet 600 > set up cups + hpijs drivers. going through localhost:631 i set > up the printer. had cups print out a test page ... looked good. > set up samba ... samba file sharing/access/etc... works. added > printer support to samba (see bottom for smb.conf). was able > to add printer on windows2000 machine. viewed the properties > of the printer, all of that stuff. went to print test page, no error > came back. goto localhost:631 and i see: > ID Name User Size State Control > HP_OfficeJet_Series_600-2 smbprn.000004.mITl7Y root 313k > processing since > Sun Jun 30 02:53:03 2002 Hold Job Cancel Job > basically it sits there forever (by forever i mean 24+hrs) and never gets > printed. > any ideas ? > k thx > -mike > > cups' printer.conf > <DefaultPrinter HP_OfficeJet_Series_600> > Info HP OfficeJet 600 > Location Home > DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0 > State Idle > Accepting Yes > JobSheets none none > QuotaPeriod 0 > PageLimit 0 > KLimit 0 > </Printer> > > smb.conf > [global] > preferred master = True > domain master = False > wins support = yes > > hosts allow = 192.168.0. > interfaces = 192.168.0.1/24 > security = SHARE > encrypt passwords = Yes > guest account = root > > netbios name = Home > workgroup = WH0RD.ORG > server string = home.wh0rd.org Samba %v > > # load printers = yes > printcap name = lpstat > printing = cups > > [printers] > comment = All Printers > path = /var/spool/samba > browseable = no > guest ok = yes > writable = no > printable = yes > create mode = 0700 > print command = lpr -P %p -o raw %s -r > lpq command = lpstat -o %p > lprm command = cancel %p-%j > > [print$] > path = /var/lib/samba/printers > guest ok = yes > browseable = yes > read only = yes > write list = root > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > uh...WINDOWS SUCKS? ROFL... sorry man...i know that was uncalled for but...i just had to...please forgive me :) i HATE printers! heh... my two cents...now i'll shut up... -jeff (co-crazy guy who made MWBLUG) p.s. WHERE's THE DERN BBQ AT THIS YEAR! i miss hangin' out with all ya nerdz!!! :) p.p.s. dang it's hot here in woo-stah

July 1, 2002

CUPS + Samba + Win2000

by Michael Frysinger

problem: print jobs sent to cups via samba from windows sit in print queue and never get processed printer: HP OfficeJet 600 set up cups + hpijs drivers. going through localhost:631 i set up the printer. had cups print out a test page ... looked good. set up samba ... samba file sharing/access/etc... works. added printer support to samba (see bottom for smb.conf). was able to add printer on windows2000 machine. viewed the properties of the printer, all of that stuff. went to print test page, no error came back. goto localhost:631 and i see: ID Name User Size State Control HP_OfficeJet_Series_600-2 smbprn.000004.mITl7Y root 313k processing since Sun Jun 30 02:53:03 2002 Hold Job Cancel Job basically it sits there forever (by forever i mean 24+hrs) and never gets printed. any ideas ? k thx -mike cups' printer.conf <DefaultPrinter HP_OfficeJet_Series_600> Info HP OfficeJet 600 Location Home DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0 State Idle Accepting Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 </Printer> smb.conf [global] preferred master = True domain master = False wins support = yes hosts allow = 192.168.0. interfaces = 192.168.0.1/24 security = SHARE encrypt passwords = Yes guest account = root netbios name = Home workgroup = WH0RD.ORG server string = home.wh0rd.org Samba %v # load printers = yes printcap name = lpstat printing = cups [printers] comment = All Printers path = /var/spool/samba browseable = no guest ok = yes writable = no printable = yes create mode = 0700 print command = lpr -P %p -o raw %s -r lpq command = lpstat -o %p lprm command = cancel %p-%j [print$] path = /var/lib/samba/printers guest ok = yes browseable = yes read only = yes write list = root

July 1, 2002

Help with Audio on Linux

by Prakash Purushotham

Gurus I have a P-IV with AC97 on i810 (AvanceLogic ALC200/200P). I am unable to get FullDuplex audio working. I have installed the RC2 release of ALSA drivers but still, mic and speakers don't work together. I am pretty sure I am missing something in the configs. I have not been able to get any leads from Google. (Rh7.2, kernel 2.4.9-31, alsa-drivers 0.9rc2) TIA Best regards Prakash Purushotham

July 1, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Poster policy changed

by David Goss

works for me! Dave Goss ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)WPI.EDU> To: <wlug(a)wlug.org> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 12:42 AM Subject: [Wlug] Poster policy changed > Since it seemed pretty much unanimous (at least among those who spoke up) > the WLUG list should now only accepts submissions from subscribed members. > If anyone has any problems, feel free to contact me. > > -- > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 18 > Full-time WPI Network Engineer, Part time Linux/Perl guy | > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 1, 2002

Poster policy changed

by Frank Sweetser

Since it seemed pretty much unanimous (at least among those who spoke up) the WLUG list should now only accepts submissions from subscribed members. If anyone has any problems, feel free to contact me. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 18 Full-time WPI Network Engineer, Part time Linux/Perl guy |

July 1, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Antispam software (was spam with header)

by Aaron Haviland

Karl Hiramoto said: > Do you have a project created for this software? Distribute it? I > have a spam problem @ work. Looking into solutions. I looked at maps > rbl http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/ not sure on using it in a production > environment though (where the most spam goes to) > > My main worry is someone sending e-mail to sales(a)company.com and it > gettting rejected, and comany.com loses a sale. Is this an issue? If you feel it might be an issue, I'm sure it'd be a simple matter to "hold" the messages instead of rejecting them. Mailman supports a similar feature, iirc. (that is being able to hold certain messages for moderator approval) -- Aaron Haviland orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org orion [at] parsed [dot] net Release the Mongoose!

July 1, 2002

Re: [Wlug] hardware problem?

by Theo Van Dinter

On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 11:12:28PM -0400, avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com wrote: > No, nothing comes onto the screen until, in windows, my desktop appears, > and in linux, didn't see lilo, I had to log in in the dark and call up > an x session, and that comes up fine. I didn't try booting a clean dos > disk, but I suspect I'll see nothing. Have you tried power cycling? I used to have a video card which would have issues rebooting after being in a graphic mode, it would never switch back to a text mode. I always had to power cycle (hitting reset didn't do it) to clear the problem. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Just wanted to let you know that pubexchange is down, something caught on fire inside the box." - Random problem ticket at work

July 1, 2002

Re: [Wlug] hardware problem?

by Michael Frysinger

ive seen this once or twice on my on hardware. to fix it i either unplugged/plugged the monitor (both power cord and to the video card), or swapped the video cards temporarily. every once in a while stupid shit like that works :) -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Hiramoto" <karl(a)zoop.org> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 22:43 Subject: Re: [Wlug] hardware problem? > I would try a new video card maybee. Reset your bios to factory > "safe" values. > > Do you see the bios come up on the screen at all? Does lilo/grub or > your bootloader come on the screen? > > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com wrote: > > > I just had trouble booting into linux. Tried several times, but kept > > getting a blank screen, so I booted windoze. I noticed that I saw > > nothing on the screen until I got to my windows desktop, so I tried > > booting to linux again, and waited for my hard drive light to stop. Then > > I logged in with a blank screen, called up X, and it came up fine. > > > > Any ideas why my startup screen is missing? I haven't tried going into > > my bios yet, to see if it comes up on the screen. I'm not sure I > > remember how to get out of the bios on this machine, so I'm a little > > hesitant to go there. I'm not sure how to proceed, so any ideas are welcome. > > > > Athlon 1.2G, Spacewalker AK12A motherboard, ELSA GLoria L vid card, > > Viewsonic A70 monitor, 256RAM. > > > > I've got another computer here, so I could try switching monitors (not > > tonight). > > > > Thanks. > > > > Greg > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > Cell: 508-517-4819 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > A fail-safe circuit will destroy others. > -- Klipstein > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 1, 2002

Re: [Wlug] hardware problem?

by avedis＠ma.ultranet.com

No, nothing comes onto the screen until, in windows, my desktop appears, and in linux, didn't see lilo, I had to log in in the dark and call up an x session, and that comes up fine. I didn't try booting a clean dos disk, but I suspect I'll see nothing. G. Karl Hiramoto wrote: > I would try a new video card maybee. Reset your bios to factory > "safe" values. > > Do you see the bios come up on the screen at all? Does lilo/grub or > your bootloader come on the screen? > > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com wrote: > > >>I just had trouble booting into linux. Tried several times, but kept >>getting a blank screen, so I booted windoze. I noticed that I saw >>nothing on the screen until I got to my windows desktop, so I tried >>booting to linux again, and waited for my hard drive light to stop. Then >> I logged in with a blank screen, called up X, and it came up fine. >> >>Any ideas why my startup screen is missing? I haven't tried going into >>my bios yet, to see if it comes up on the screen. I'm not sure I >>remember how to get out of the bios on this machine, so I'm a little >>hesitant to go there. I'm not sure how to proceed, so any ideas are welcome. >> >>Athlon 1.2G, Spacewalker AK12A motherboard, ELSA GLoria L vid card, >>Viewsonic A70 monitor, 256RAM. >> >>I've got another computer here, so I could try switching monitors (not >>tonight). >> >>Thanks. >> >>Greg >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >

July 1, 2002

Re: [Wlug] hardware problem?

by Karl Hiramoto

I would try a new video card maybee. Reset your bios to factory "safe" values. Do you see the bios come up on the screen at all? Does lilo/grub or your bootloader come on the screen? On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com wrote: > I just had trouble booting into linux. Tried several times, but kept > getting a blank screen, so I booted windoze. I noticed that I saw > nothing on the screen until I got to my windows desktop, so I tried > booting to linux again, and waited for my hard drive light to stop. Then > I logged in with a blank screen, called up X, and it came up fine. > > Any ideas why my startup screen is missing? I haven't tried going into > my bios yet, to see if it comes up on the screen. I'm not sure I > remember how to get out of the bios on this machine, so I'm a little > hesitant to go there. I'm not sure how to proceed, so any ideas are welcome. > > Athlon 1.2G, Spacewalker AK12A motherboard, ELSA GLoria L vid card, > Viewsonic A70 monitor, 256RAM. > > I've got another computer here, so I could try switching monitors (not > tonight). > > Thanks. > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø A fail-safe circuit will destroy others. -- Klipstein

July 1, 2002

Re: [Wlug] spam with header

by Karl Hiramoto

I 2nd or 4th or whatever that you limit posters to list members. It works well on every other mailing list that I've used. On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Sunday 30 June 2002 1:03 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 11:32:14AM -0400, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > > > And now I just received this same spam... Indeed it did come through > > > wlug. We could prevent this sort of thing by only allowing subscribers > > > of the list to post to the list. How does everyone feel about that? > > I think it is perfectly reasonable to limit posting to the list to list > members only. I would prefer not to have to do that, but I really don't want > the spam. > > Hypothetically speaking, what stops folks like this from subscribing, posting > their garbage, and then unsubscribing? Are the spam generating robots that > smart? > > I knew this would happen eventually. Perhaps we should consider ourselves > lucky that it hasn't been more prevalent. Hopefully, Chuck and others can > track this down and get it stopped (at least at this one source). Thanks - > your efforts are appreciated! > > Later, > > Andy > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø A fail-safe circuit will destroy others. -- Klipstein

July 1, 2002

Antispam software (was spam with header)

by Karl Hiramoto

Do you have a project created for this software? Distribute it? I have a spam problem @ work. Looking into solutions. I looked at maps rbl http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/ not sure on using it in a production environment though (where the most spam goes to) My main worry is someone sending e-mail to sales(a)company.com and it gettting rejected, and comany.com loses a sale. Is this an issue? On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > It's fine by me. Alternately, if we don't want to go that route, > I've developed a small set of tools (procmail/some perl/spamassassin) > to filter out spam from mailing lists. It was written for use with > majordomo, but it's generic enough that it should work with most any > mailing list software. One of these days I'll actually finish the > article I was writing about it. :| > > It doesn't catch 100% of the spam, but it does catch the vast majority, > including the one that got through. I'd be happy to share for the wlug > list if interested. > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø A fail-safe circuit will destroy others. -- Klipstein

July 1, 2002

hardware problem?

by avedis＠ma.ultranet.com

I just had trouble booting into linux. Tried several times, but kept getting a blank screen, so I booted windoze. I noticed that I saw nothing on the screen until I got to my windows desktop, so I tried booting to linux again, and waited for my hard drive light to stop. Then I logged in with a blank screen, called up X, and it came up fine. Any ideas why my startup screen is missing? I haven't tried going into my bios yet, to see if it comes up on the screen. I'm not sure I remember how to get out of the bios on this machine, so I'm a little hesitant to go there. I'm not sure how to proceed, so any ideas are welcome. Athlon 1.2G, Spacewalker AK12A motherboard, ELSA GLoria L vid card, Viewsonic A70 monitor, 256RAM. I've got another computer here, so I could try switching monitors (not tonight). Thanks. Greg

July 1, 2002

Re: [Wlug] spam with header

by Andy Stewart

On Sunday 30 June 2002 1:03 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 11:32:14AM -0400, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > > And now I just received this same spam... Indeed it did come through > > wlug. We could prevent this sort of thing by only allowing subscribers > > of the list to post to the list. How does everyone feel about that? I think it is perfectly reasonable to limit posting to the list to list members only. I would prefer not to have to do that, but I really don't want the spam. Hypothetically speaking, what stops folks like this from subscribing, posting their garbage, and then unsubscribing? Are the spam generating robots that smart? I knew this would happen eventually. Perhaps we should consider ourselves lucky that it hasn't been more prevalent. Hopefully, Chuck and others can track this down and get it stopped (at least at this one source). Thanks - your efforts are appreciated! Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] spam with header

by Theo Van Dinter

On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 11:32:14AM -0400, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > And now I just received this same spam... Indeed it did come through > wlug. We could prevent this sort of thing by only allowing subscribers > of the list to post to the list. How does everyone feel about that? It's fine by me. Alternately, if we don't want to go that route, I've developed a small set of tools (procmail/some perl/spamassassin) to filter out spam from mailing lists. It was written for use with majordomo, but it's generic enough that it should work with most any mailing list software. One of these days I'll actually finish the article I was writing about it. :| It doesn't catch 100% of the spam, but it does catch the vast majority, including the one that got through. I'd be happy to share for the wlug list if interested. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: When will I learn? The answers to life's problems aren't at the bottom of a bottle. They're on TV! -- Homer Simpson There's No Disgrace Like Home

June 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] spam with header

by avedis＠ma.ultranet.com

Thanks, Charles. If we don't normally get serious email from people off the list, then it seems reasonable for us to only allow list members to post. I assumed that's how it already was. Greg Charles R. Anderson wrote: > And now I just received this same spam... Indeed it did come through > wlug. We could prevent this sort of thing by only allowing subscribers > of the list to post to the list. How does everyone feel about that? > > I usually look up the IP address in the Received line of the most > trusted mail server (usually the one closest to the destination, in this > case smtp.wpi.edu) Don't rely on the hostname, always use the > bracketed IP address, and look it up in the ARIN whois database: > > Received: from chat.ru ([194.143.190.11]) > by smtp.WPI.EDU (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g5UB46wx028128 > > >>whois 194.143.190.11(a)whois.arin.net > > > This reveals that the owner of that IP address isn't in the Americas > (ARIN), but in Europe (RIPE), so you have to look it up again. (For > Asian hosts look it up again in APNIC, whois.apnic.net) > > >>whois 194.143.190.11(a)whois.ripe.net > > > For RIPE hosts, I usually complain to the admin-c: and tech-c: e-mail: > addresses: > > jonr(a)hedgehognet.co.uk > noc(a)uk.xo.com > tc(a)uk.concentric.com > > In this case, the e-mail addresses don't look like generic abuse > contacts, so I tried abuse@ their domains first: > > abuse(a)hedgehognet.co.uk > abuse(a)uk.xo.com > abuse(a)uk.concentric.com > > (For virus e-mails I use security@domain.) > > If those bounce, then I'll try the real e-mail addresses. > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 10:44:04AM -0400, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > avedis> Return-Path: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org > avedis> Received: from paramount.ind.wpi.edu (root(a)paramount.ind.WPI.EDU > avedis> [130.215.24.199]) by acestes-fe0.ultra.net (8.8.8/ult/n26500/mtc.v2) with > avedis> ESMTP id HAA01415; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:06:22 -0400 (EDT) > avedis> Received: from paramount.ind.WPI.EDU (IDENT:mailman@localhost [127.0.0.1]) > avedis> by paramount.ind.wpi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UB1Tn02769; > avedis> Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:01:29 -0400 > avedis> Received: from smtp.WPI.EDU (root(a)smtp.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.62]) > avedis> by paramount.ind.wpi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UB0En02743 > avedis> for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:00:14 -0400 > avedis> Received: from chat.ru ([194.143.190.11]) > avedis> by smtp.WPI.EDU (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g5UB46wx028128 > avedis> for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:04:07 -0400 (EDT) > avedis> Message-Id: <200206301104.g5UB46wx028128(a)smtp.WPI.EDU> > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

June 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] spam with header

by Charles R. Anderson

And now I just received this same spam... Indeed it did come through wlug. We could prevent this sort of thing by only allowing subscribers of the list to post to the list. How does everyone feel about that? I usually look up the IP address in the Received line of the most trusted mail server (usually the one closest to the destination, in this case smtp.wpi.edu) Don't rely on the hostname, always use the bracketed IP address, and look it up in the ARIN whois database: Received: from chat.ru ([194.143.190.11]) by smtp.WPI.EDU (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g5UB46wx028128 > whois 194.143.190.11(a)whois.arin.net This reveals that the owner of that IP address isn't in the Americas (ARIN), but in Europe (RIPE), so you have to look it up again. (For Asian hosts look it up again in APNIC, whois.apnic.net) > whois 194.143.190.11(a)whois.ripe.net For RIPE hosts, I usually complain to the admin-c: and tech-c: e-mail: addresses: jonr(a)hedgehognet.co.uk noc(a)uk.xo.com tc(a)uk.concentric.com In this case, the e-mail addresses don't look like generic abuse contacts, so I tried abuse@ their domains first: abuse(a)hedgehognet.co.uk abuse(a)uk.xo.com abuse(a)uk.concentric.com (For virus e-mails I use security@domain.) If those bounce, then I'll try the real e-mail addresses. On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 10:44:04AM -0400, Gregory Avedissian wrote: avedis> Return-Path: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org avedis> Received: from paramount.ind.wpi.edu (root(a)paramount.ind.WPI.EDU avedis> [130.215.24.199]) by acestes-fe0.ultra.net (8.8.8/ult/n26500/mtc.v2) with avedis> ESMTP id HAA01415; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:06:22 -0400 (EDT) avedis> Received: from paramount.ind.WPI.EDU (IDENT:mailman@localhost [127.0.0.1]) avedis> by paramount.ind.wpi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UB1Tn02769; avedis> Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:01:29 -0400 avedis> Received: from smtp.WPI.EDU (root(a)smtp.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.62]) avedis> by paramount.ind.wpi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UB0En02743 avedis> for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:00:14 -0400 avedis> Received: from chat.ru ([194.143.190.11]) avedis> by smtp.WPI.EDU (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g5UB46wx028128 avedis> for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:04:07 -0400 (EDT) avedis> Message-Id: <200206301104.g5UB46wx028128(a)smtp.WPI.EDU>

June 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] spam attack

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Charles R. Anderson wrote: CRA> On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 08:44:53AM -0400, avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com wrote: CRA> avedis> I just received some porn spam that has wlug address as the return CRA> avedis> address. Should I just ignore and delete, forward to spamcop, or does CRA> avedis> someone here want to deal with the spammer personally? Looks like it CRA> avedis> came from 194.143.190.11. This shit should be illegal. CRA> CRA> Just because it has the wlug return address, doesn't mean it came through the CRA> wlug email list. Forward the full headers here so we can take a look at CRA> where is really came from. although you probably also got it by now, here's the message I got, since you asked: begin forwarded message -------- >From MAILER-DAEMON8898(a)chat.ru Sun Jun 30 10:48:14 2002 Return-Path: <wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org> Received: from paramount.ind.wpi.edu (paramount.ind.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.199]) by eclectic.kluge.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UB5fR06502; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:05:42 -0400 Received: from paramount.ind.WPI.EDU (IDENT:mailman@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paramount.ind.wpi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UB16n02757; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:01:06 -0400 Received: from smtp.WPI.EDU (root(a)smtp.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.62]) by paramount.ind.wpi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UB0En02743 for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:00:14 -0400 Received: from chat.ru ([194.143.190.11]) by smtp.WPI.EDU (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g5UB46wx028128 for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:04:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200206301104.g5UB46wx028128(a)smtp.WPI.EDU> From: "Arcady 28412" <MAILER-DAEMON8898(a)chat.ru> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.54d) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:06:57 +0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-2" X-Warning: zoxjCpdlo1zoxj1ruj@30577 Subject: [Wlug] Real ZOO web site, welcome! <zoxjCpdlo1zoxj1ruj> Sender: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org Errors-To: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org X-BeenThere: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org List-Id: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug.mail.wlug.org> [ The following text is in the "ISO-8859-2" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "ISO-8859-1" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] <html>  <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I got your email from ICQ, may be it will be interested?<br> The BEST zoo site on the @net! <br>  Sex With Dogs<br> Horse Blow Jobs.<br>  Snake Fuck.<br> <a href="http://rol.rape-sexy.com/?refid=zoxjCpdlo1zoxj1ruj">REAL ANIMAL FUCKING!</a><br> <b>100% HARDCORE!<br>  <a href="http://rol.rape-sexy.com/?refid=zoxjCpdlo1zoxj1ruj">rol.rape-sexy.com</a><br> <hr> <i><a href="http://rol.rape-sexy.com/unsub.cgi?em=wlug@mail.wlug.org">unsub</a></i><br> Good luck.<br><br>  </body></html> _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -------- end forwarded message

June 30, 2002

spam with header

by Gregory Avedissian

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Return-Path: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org Received: from paramount.ind.wpi.edu (root(a)paramount.ind.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.199]) by acestes-fe0.ultra.net (8.8.8/ult/n26500/mtc.v2) with ESMTP id HAA01415; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paramount.ind.WPI.EDU (IDENT:mailman@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paramount.ind.wpi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UB1Tn02769; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:01:29 -0400 Received: from smtp.WPI.EDU (root(a)smtp.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.62]) by paramount.ind.wpi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UB0En02743 for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:00:14 -0400 Received: from chat.ru ([194.143.190.11]) by smtp.WPI.EDU (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g5UB46wx028128 for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:04:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200206301104.g5UB46wx028128(a)smtp.WPI.EDU> From: "Arcady 28412" <MAILER-DAEMON8898(a)chat.ru> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.54d) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:06:57 +0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-2" X-UIDL: ae92ef1fea768b8ce77d61b44fbde8c9 Status: R X-Status: N X-Warning: zoxjCpdlo1zoxj1ruj@30577 Subject: [Wlug] Real ZOO web site, welcome! <zoxjCpdlo1zoxj1ruj> Sender: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org Errors-To: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org X-BeenThere: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org List-Id: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug.mail.wlug.org> <html>  <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I got your email from ICQ, may be it will be interested?<br> The BEST zoo site on the @net! <br>  Sex With Dogs<br> Horse Blow Jobs.<br>  Snake Fuck.<br> <a href="http://rol.rape-sexy.com/?refid=zoxjCpdlo1zoxj1ruj">REAL ANIMAL FUCKING!</a><br> <b>100% HARDCORE!<br>  <a href="http://rol.rape-sexy.com/?refid=zoxjCpdlo1zoxj1ruj">rol.rape-sexy.com</a><br> <hr> <i><a href="http://rol.rape-sexy.com/unsub.cgi?em=wlug@mail.wlug.org">unsub</a></i><br> Good luck.<br><br>  </body></html> _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug <html>  <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I got your email from ICQ, may be it will be interested?<br> The BEST zoo site on the @net! <br>  Sex With Dogs<br> Horse Blow Jobs.<br>  Snake Fuck.<br> <a href="http://rol.rape-sexy.com/?refid=zoxjCpdlo1zoxj1ruj">REAL ANIMAL FUCKING!</a><br> <b>100% HARDCORE!<br>  <a href="http://rol.rape-sexy.com/?refid=zoxjCpdlo1zoxj1ruj">rol.rape-sexy.com< /a><br> <hr> <i><a href="http://rol.rape-sexy.com/unsub.cgi?em=wlug@mail.wlug.org">unsub</a></i ><br> Good luck.<br><br>  </body></html> _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -------------------------------------------------------

June 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] spam attack

by Charles R. Anderson

On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 08:44:53AM -0400, avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com wrote: avedis> I just received some porn spam that has wlug address as the return avedis> address. Should I just ignore and delete, forward to spamcop, or does avedis> someone here want to deal with the spammer personally? Looks like it avedis> came from 194.143.190.11. This shit should be illegal. Just because it has the wlug return address, doesn't mean it came through the wlug email list. Forward the full headers here so we can take a look at where is really came from. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

June 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] spam attack

by desdinova＠soupforare.net

On 30 Jun 2002 at 8:44, avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com wrote: > I just received some porn spam that has wlug address as the return > address. Should I just ignore and delete, forward to spamcop, or does > someone here want to deal with the spammer personally? Looks like it > came from 194.143.190.11. This shit should be illegal. [Bad joke] Well, it *is* but not in every state [/Bad joke] :P James > Awaiting further instructions... > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

June 30, 2002

spam attack

by avedis＠ma.ultranet.com

I just received some porn spam that has wlug address as the return address. Should I just ignore and delete, forward to spamcop, or does someone here want to deal with the spammer personally? Looks like it came from 194.143.190.11. This shit should be illegal. Awaiting further instructions... Greg

June 30, 2002

Real ZOO web site, welcome! <zoxjCpdlo1zoxj1ruj>

by Arcady 28412

June 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] What are Lindows and Lycoris?

by George Metz

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Andy Stewart wrote: > > HI all, > > Walmart is selling ultra-cheap PCs with Lindows on them (the PC is by > Microtel). The screen shots look alot like KDE. Lindows makes software > available for download on their website (the apps, not the OS) for a fee. This isn't from personal experience with them, but I know that Lycoris is Redmond Linux renamed. Lindows is supposed to be Linux with some Windows compatibility beyond that of Wine, but I don't know details. And yeah, that's KDE alright. Wal-Mart's actually selling systems with Linux installed and configured for real cheap. Pretty neat. -- George Metz Commercial Routing Engineer wolfstar(a)shadownet.wox.org "We know what deterrence was with 'mutually assured destruction' during the Cold War. But what is deterrence in information warfare?" -- Brigadier General Douglas Richardson, USAF, Commander - Space Warfare Center

June 28, 2002

Re: [Wlug] OT: Lindows

by Clint Moyer

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:33:55 -0400 Chuck Homic <chuck(a)vvisions.com> wrote: >On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 07:18:01PM -0400, Michael >Frysinger wrote: >Off topic: By the way, any other Microsoft-haters out >there think Lindows >should have lost the infringement case? I mean, come on, >that name was >designed to be deliberately misleading. I'm sadly on >Microsoft's side on >this one. Course it's mostly bad for the poor sap who >doesn't know what >he's buying and tries to run actual applications on his >Lindows machine. > >It's also kinda dumb-sounding. "I know a geniune >Panaphonics when I see >it. And look, there's Magnetbox and Sorny!" > >Just a pointless rant... > > -Chuck No. You're right. Lindows is just another (destined to fail) money-making scheme of Michael Robertson of mp3.com fame. He's well known as a domain squatter: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,34893-2,00.html Apparently, he also has issue with the GPL: http://newsforge.com/newsforge/02/04/11/148251.shtml?tid=23

June 28, 2002

OT: Lindows

by Chuck Homic

On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 07:18:01PM -0400, Michael Frysinger wrote: > Lindows was supposed to be a linux distro that ran > windows and linux applications. Off topic: By the way, any other Microsoft-haters out there think Lindows should have lost the infringement case? I mean, come on, that name was designed to be deliberately misleading. I'm sadly on Microsoft's side on this one. Course it's mostly bad for the poor sap who doesn't know what he's buying and tries to run actual applications on his Lindows machine. It's also kinda dumb-sounding. "I know a geniune Panaphonics when I see it. And look, there's Magnetbox and Sorny!" Just a pointless rant... -Chuck

June 27, 2002

Re: [Wlug] What are Lindows and Lycoris?

by Michael Frysinger

Lindows was supposed to be a linux distro that ran windows and linux applications. it was supposed to support all of windows in a linux environment without any hassle. the idea was to make linux for masses. with this distro, linux could finally break into the desktop market (at least the part of the market owned by the masses who dont know shit about linux, or even windows). well it hasnt worked out for them ;) wine (which is what lindows relys heavilty upon) still isnt to the point where it can emulate windows programs for the masses w/out the masses realizing they arent running windows. never heard of Lycoris -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Stewart" <andystewart(a)attbi.com> To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 17:56 Subject: [Wlug] What are Lindows and Lycoris? > > HI all, > > Walmart is selling ultra-cheap PCs with Lindows on them (the PC is by > Microtel). The screen shots look alot like KDE. Lindows makes software > available for download on their website (the apps, not the OS) for a fee. > > I've also seen Lycoris, and on their website, they make passing references to > Redmond Linux. > > So, I ask the question, are these just some version of Linux "packaged for the > masses"? If not, what are they? Are there other similar products besides > Lindows and Lycoris? > > Thanks, > > Andy > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

June 27, 2002

What are Lindows and Lycoris?

by Andy Stewart

HI all, Walmart is selling ultra-cheap PCs with Lindows on them (the PC is by Microtel). The screen shots look alot like KDE. Lindows makes software available for download on their website (the apps, not the OS) for a fee. I've also seen Lycoris, and on their website, they make passing references to Redmond Linux. So, I ask the question, are these just some version of Linux "packaged for the masses"? If not, what are they? Are there other similar products besides Lindows and Lycoris? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 27, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Lilo :-)

by doug waud

Aaron Haviland wrote: > > doug waud said: > > Hi all > <snip info about that *other* lilo> > > > > Heh... When I saw the subject, I thought it'd be about lilo (Rob Levin, > head of operations at OpenProjects...). He's been making quite an > impression on just about everyone over there lately. > just a few: > http://openprojects.nu/ > http://www.lilofree.net/ > http://www.kainx.org/ > and one from a year ago: > http://crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2001q1/017271.html > > ahhh, don't you love politics? I was unaware of lilo/levin. Do you see him as a model for what will happen to our Andy as time goes on? :-) doug

June 27, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Lilo :-)

by Aaron Haviland

doug waud said: > Hi all <snip info about that *other* lilo> > Heh... When I saw the subject, I thought it'd be about lilo (Rob Levin, head of operations at OpenProjects...). He's been making quite an impression on just about everyone over there lately. just a few: http://openprojects.nu/ http://www.lilofree.net/ http://www.kainx.org/ and one from a year ago: http://crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2001q1/017271.html ahhh, don't you love politics? -- Aaron Haviland orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org orion [at] parsed [dot] net Someone is trying to thank me, he thought to himself. He wondered who, and for what.

June 27, 2002

Lilo :-)

by doug waud

Hi all On the TV lately I have heard a lot about Lilo. It seems to be in the context of something called Stitch. I am not clear on the details but Stitch apparently is some sort of extraterrestial with a bent to destroying everything it encounters. I assume the reference is, therefore, to Microsoft. The interesting thing about Lilo is that it never seems to be spelled LILO. The first letter is captialized so I assume there is some degree of case sensitivity involved. If any of you can decipher what all of this means perhaps you could fill me in! :-) I do notice that Disney seems to be involved so it would seem that Pixar is not the only place Linux seems to be making inroads. doug

June 27, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Installing Redhat on HP machines

by Hemstreet, Jeffrey

Thank you all for your help.... just wanted to let you know the outcome of the installs... On the HP Vectra, there appears to be some hardware issues, as Windows 2K boot floppy fails with a Boot I/O Error. This machine has been suspect, and I will probably scavenge it for parts (CD, Memory) (It has had some intermittent problems finding the HDD.) On the HP Kayak..... it's UP! I downloaded the new boot disk image from the email below, and the install ran without a hitch. It must not like the 7.2 standard boot image since it failed both from the install disk and from the boot floppy I made straight from the CDROM. (This was a CD burned from the WLUG installfest in February and it has installed faithfully on about a dozen machines.) Thank you again. jeff -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Anderson [mailto:cra@WPI.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 7:49 PM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: Re: [Wlug] Installing Redhat on HP machines Have you tried booting the latest errata install disks? You can get them here: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/updates/7.2/en/os/images/i386/boot.img ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/updates/7.2/en/os/images/i386/update-disk-200201 17.img Make sure you rawrite/dd them to brand new floppy disks, since if there is even a single byte error on the floppy disk, the install will fail. Boot the first one (boot.img) and see below... On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 06:25:44PM -0400, Hemstreet, Jeffrey wrote: jhemstreet> One is an HP Vectra (2Gb IDE, 56MB, P200). I can fdisk and select jhemstreet> packages, but when it goes to jhemstreet> format the disk to install the packages, I get a signal 11 fatal error. I jhemstreet> think there may be something jhemstreet> flaky with this system (HDD or memory problem?) Just wondering if anyone jhemstreet> else has seen this type jhemstreet> of failure and could give me any more insight. I plan on replacing the HDD jhemstreet> to see if that is the problem. It depends. Does the signal 11 always happen at exactly the same point? If so, that doesn't necessarily point to flakey hardware, but rather a software bug. If it IS random, then it does sound like a memory error. You can test your RAM with memtest86, available here: http://www.memtest86.com/ Another thing you can try is making sure the amount of memory is detected correctly by Linux (check the boot up messages of the Linux kernel). If not, you can force the correct amount by appending the mem option to the linux boot command line: linux updates mem=56M You need the "updates" bit to use the update-disk mentioned earlier. Insert the updates disk when it asks. jhemstreet> The other is a dual-300 PII HP Kayak with a SCSI Drive. I get a boot error jhemstreet> when trying to boot from the jhemstreet> CDROM or Install Disk. This system is currently running NT 5. Any ideas jhemstreet> why the boot would fail? Bad floppy disk and/or CD-ROM? How did you acquire your Red Hat 7.2 CD-ROM? If it isn't an official disk, then it might have been burned incorrectly. Red Hat recommends burning ISO's in Disk-At-Once mode, and checking the images and disks with md5sum to be sure they burned correctly. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Installing Redhat on HP machines

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 21:18:10 -0400 (EDT) > From: Bill Mills-Curran <subssn594(a)charter.net> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: "'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org'" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Installing Redhat on HP machines > <snip> > Jeff, > > I had a problem that sounds similar when installing on a Data General > Aviion (old, slow) machine. I was using one of the standard (server?) > installs. I tried a "custom" install, and everything went smoothly. > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > I was wrong about the machine (I have too many) -- I was installing on an HP Vectra VL, so my experience should be the same as yours. Bill

June 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Installing Redhat on HP machines

by Gary J. Hanley

Ah, the Aviion, AKA Nova II. I was working at DG as a computer operator when they took the plunge with UNIX. I remember the hype about the power of the Aviion line and I was totally blown away the first time I used X on DG/UX-Aviion (First exposure to UNIX in general, actually). Giant workstation screen. Beautiful graphics. I clicked an icon, and no less than 30 seconds, and xterm appeared! :-) -- Gary On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I had a problem that sounds similar when installing on a Data General > Aviion (old, slow) machine. I was using one of the standard (server?) > installs. I tried a "custom" install, and everything went smoothly. > Bill

June 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Installing Redhat on HP machines

by Nate Godin

On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Hemstreet, Jeffrey wrote: > The other is a dual-300 PII HP Kayak with a SCSI Drive. I get a boot error > when trying to boot from the > CDROM or Install Disk. This system is currently running NT 5. Any ideas > why the boot would fail? I've had some serious problems with an dual PII-266 HP Kayak XU that I recently acquired... I'd get read errors on the IDE CDROM while trying to install Mandrake 8.2, after many failed install attempts, I finally got it to the part where it was actually installing RPM's, and it would go very slowly, with frequent read errors that caused about a third of the packages to fail to install. The system would boot, but wasn't much good beyond that. Putting a SCSI CDROM drive in helped some, though the install was still dog slow due to read errors, and bombed twice. Maybe it needs ECC memory or some BIOS tweaking, or maybe it's a SCSI driver issue? I really have no idea, I just know mine has been a pain in the ass too! Nate -- Experience is not what happens to you; it is what you do with what happens to you. -- Aldous Huxley

June 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Installing Redhat on HP machines

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Hemstreet, Jeffrey wrote: > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:25:44 -0400 > From: "Hemstreet, Jeffrey" <jhemstreet(a)avaya.com> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: "'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org'" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Subject: [Wlug] Installing Redhat on HP machines > > I am having a problem installing Redhat 7.2 on 2 different HP machines. I > thought I might be > able to get some information from the plethera of people who have done > installs. Or any ideas > on what to do next? > > One is an HP Vectra (2Gb IDE, 56MB, P200). I can fdisk and select packages, > but when it goes to > format the disk to install the packages, I get a signal 11 fatal error. I > think there may be something > flaky with this system (HDD or memory problem?) Just wondering if anyone > else has seen this type > of failure and could give me any more insight. I plan on replacing the HDD > to see if that is the problem. > > The other is a dual-300 PII HP Kayak with a SCSI Drive. I get a boot error > when trying to boot from the > CDROM or Install Disk. This system is currently running NT 5. Any ideas > why the boot would fail? > > Thanks, > jeff > Jeff, I had a problem that sounds similar when installing on a Data General Aviion (old, slow) machine. I was using one of the standard (server?) installs. I tried a "custom" install, and everything went smoothly. Bill

June 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Installing Redhat on HP machines

by Charles R. Anderson

Have you tried booting the latest errata install disks? You can get them here: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/updates/7.2/en/os/images/i386/boot.img ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/updates/7.2/en/os/images/i386/update-disk-20020… Make sure you rawrite/dd them to brand new floppy disks, since if there is even a single byte error on the floppy disk, the install will fail. Boot the first one (boot.img) and see below... On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 06:25:44PM -0400, Hemstreet, Jeffrey wrote: jhemstreet> One is an HP Vectra (2Gb IDE, 56MB, P200). I can fdisk and select jhemstreet> packages, but when it goes to jhemstreet> format the disk to install the packages, I get a signal 11 fatal error. I jhemstreet> think there may be something jhemstreet> flaky with this system (HDD or memory problem?) Just wondering if anyone jhemstreet> else has seen this type jhemstreet> of failure and could give me any more insight. I plan on replacing the HDD jhemstreet> to see if that is the problem. It depends. Does the signal 11 always happen at exactly the same point? If so, that doesn't necessarily point to flakey hardware, but rather a software bug. If it IS random, then it does sound like a memory error. You can test your RAM with memtest86, available here: http://www.memtest86.com/ Another thing you can try is making sure the amount of memory is detected correctly by Linux (check the boot up messages of the Linux kernel). If not, you can force the correct amount by appending the mem option to the linux boot command line: linux updates mem=56M You need the "updates" bit to use the update-disk mentioned earlier. Insert the updates disk when it asks. jhemstreet> The other is a dual-300 PII HP Kayak with a SCSI Drive. I get a boot error jhemstreet> when trying to boot from the jhemstreet> CDROM or Install Disk. This system is currently running NT 5. Any ideas jhemstreet> why the boot would fail? Bad floppy disk and/or CD-ROM? How did you acquire your Red Hat 7.2 CD-ROM? If it isn't an official disk, then it might have been burned incorrectly. Red Hat recommends burning ISO's in Disk-At-Once mode, and checking the images and disks with md5sum to be sure they burned correctly. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

June 25, 2002

Installing Redhat on HP machines

by Hemstreet, Jeffrey

I am having a problem installing Redhat 7.2 on 2 different HP machines. I thought I might be able to get some information from the plethera of people who have done installs. Or any ideas on what to do next? One is an HP Vectra (2Gb IDE, 56MB, P200). I can fdisk and select packages, but when it goes to format the disk to install the packages, I get a signal 11 fatal error. I think there may be something flaky with this system (HDD or memory problem?) Just wondering if anyone else has seen this type of failure and could give me any more insight. I plan on replacing the HDD to see if that is the problem. The other is a dual-300 PII HP Kayak with a SCSI Drive. I get a boot error when trying to boot from the CDROM or Install Disk. This system is currently running NT 5. Any ideas why the boot would fail? Thanks, jeff

June 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me?

by Josh Huber

Joe Riopel <joe(a)crankhouse.com> writes: > You could download and use a program called Sam Spade. It will tell > you alot about an IP/Hostname. Who registered it, and their contact > information. I dont have a link but I bet a quick search on google > should work. This won't be too useful, since the original request/comment was about an IP address on an _internal_ company network. It won't be registered by anyone! Heh, I like the NS entries listed for reserved IP blocks: BLACKHOLE-1.IANA.ORG 192.0.32.18 BLACKHOLE-2.IANA.ORG 192.0.32.19 ttyl, -- Josh Huber

June 25, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me?

by Joe Riopel

You could download and use a program called Sam Spade. It will tell you alot about an IP/Hostname. Who registered it, and their contact information. I dont have a link but I bet a quick search on google should work. -Joe

June 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] fsck, segmantation fault, etc.

by Baris Hasdemir

On Mon, 2002-06-24 at 11:37, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 11:26:38AM -0400, Baris Hasdemir wrote: > penguen> I bought a new hard drive, Maxtor 7200 RPM, ATA133, 40GB, and began > penguen> using it at ATA100. > > Did you upgrade your IDE cable to an ATA100-capable one at the same > time? > yes, otherwise it was seeing the ATA1333 drive as ATA33 or ATA66, I don't remember exactly.

June 24, 2002

Re: [Wlug] fsck, segmantation fault, etc.

by Charles R. Anderson

On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 11:26:38AM -0400, Baris Hasdemir wrote: penguen> I bought a new hard drive, Maxtor 7200 RPM, ATA133, 40GB, and began penguen> using it at ATA100. Did you upgrade your IDE cable to an ATA100-capable one at the same time? -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

June 24, 2002

fsck, segmantation fault, etc.

by Baris Hasdemir

Hi, I bought a new hard drive, Maxtor 7200 RPM, ATA133, 40GB, and began using it at ATA100. I formatted my /dev/hda5 with mkfs.ext2 and mounted it under /home. I have been using this mount with the Slackware 8.0 at /dev/hda6 for several days without any problems. Two days ago I installed Slackware8.1 on /dev/hda8 and used the same device mounted to /home. (/dev/hda5) Yesterday under root privileges I attempted to delete a user's two big files, and got the following error (or warning, I don't know): root@penguen:/home/avci# rm more_than_700MB_files* EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block = 1083636778, count = 1 EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block = 1083606420, count = 1 EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block = 1083602068, count = 1 EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block = 1083602292, count = 1 root@penguen:/home/avci# ls -al total 24 drwx--x--x 2 avci misafir 4096 Jun 23 12:47 ./ drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 Feb 25 2001 ../ -rw------- 1 avci misafir 36 Jun 17 17:26 .bash_history -rw-r--r-- 1 avci misafir 34 Jun 17 16:44 .less -rw-r--r-- 1 avci misafir 114 Jun 17 16:44 .lessrc -rw-r--r-- 1 avci misafir 3394 Jun 17 16:44 .screenrc However, rm deleted the files. But I couldn't understand the warning. And then, just because of curiosity I tried to copy one of the same big files from another partition to the same location, and cp gave out those: root@penguen:/home/avci# time cp /mnt/hda10/one_of_the_big_files . Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000004 *pde = 00000000 Oops: 0002 CPU: 0 EIP: 0010:[<c0128240>] Tainted: P EFLAGS: 00010046 eax: cbf58000 ebx: 00000003 ecx: ca000000 edx: 00000000 esi: c1405e50 edi: 00000202 ebp: c12f1f80 esp: c14e7efc ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Process kswapd (pid: 4, stackpage=c14e7000) Stack: ca000240 cbe9b8c0 cbe9bb40 c12f1f80 c0130f12 c1405e50 ca000240 c0132a9c ca000240 ca000240 c12f1f80 000001d0 00000009 00000200 c013118c c12f1f80 000001d0 cbe9bb40 c12f1f80 c0128f62 c12f1f80 000001d0 00000020 000001d0 Call Trace: [<c0130f12>] [<c0132a9c>] [<c013118c>] [<c0128f62>] [<c01291a6>] [<c012921c>] [<c01292b3>] [<c0129316>] [<c012942d>] [<c0105708>] Code: 89 42 04 89 10 8b 46 08 89 48 04 89 01 8d 56 08 89 51 04 89 real 0m54.986s user 0m0.060s sys 0m7.330s And then of course I did a couple of fsck on this partition after unmounting. first one quitted after several error correcting, second fsck did segmentation fault but the last one did finish fsck. and lots of error were corrected. It might give an idea if I mount it like this #mount /dev/hda5 /home file names appear as $@#$#%#$ etc. but if I mount it like that #mount /dev/hda5 /home -t ext2 no problem seem to occur. I am thinking about whether I did something missing at the fdisk stage or formatting stage. Or is my new hard disk a dead-born? Or any other things you may notice? thank you, baris

June 24, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me?

by Simoncini, Matthew

Hi again, Over the weekend, I received some "creative" feedback and all of it is appreciated. Why question was intended to find an easy way to track down the owner of an IP address within our corporate network (unregistered with DNS/WINS). Not to hack, crack, spam, or DOS them, but to gain information on that particular node. I have to bring this IP address to the attention of our Security Team, but wanted more information to give them. Given all the feedback, it seems easier just to contact the Security Team and let them figure this out. Thanks again for your time. Matthew -----Original Message----- From: Phillip G Deneault [mailto:deneault@WPI.EDU] Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 9:27 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me? Chances are the machine that is performing the portscan is hacked himself. It does no good to "hack them back" because your not hacking the hackers...your hacking the hack. :-) On top of that, you'll only cloud the issue and, if the matter is taken to the authorities, you could also get in trouble. Not to mention the entire concept of hacking without authorization is unethical and illegal. I'm going to go say its not worth it. This does happen constantly if your connected to the Internet. Your best offense is a good defense. Phil On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Michael Frysinger wrote: > try and hack them back???????? > or just move on because it doesnt matter that much. > in the real world that shit happens all the time > -mike > > On Sunday 23 June 2002 08:42 am, David Goss wrote: > > and if it is a hacker???... what's the best way to send them back a little > > something to let them know you care??? > > > > dave goss > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "George Metz" <wolfstar(a)shadownet.wox.org> > > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 12:49 AM > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me? > > > > > On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I'm constantly getting port scanned from a certain IP address on our > > > > internal corporate network. I'd really like to find out where and who > > > > this > > > > > > person is, but don't know much outside of ping, traceroute, nslookup, > > > > etc > > > > > > .... I was wondering if anyone knows of any tools that can get me more > > > > information on this person? This happens to be on our private network, > > > > so > > > > > > most internet tools I don't think will help much. > > > > > > If it's on your internal net, then talking to the network admins for your > > > site should give you a good idea of where they're at and why they're > > > doing it. > > > > > > If there's no network admin on site, then you'll have to do some footwork > > > yourself. The suggestion to use IPTables to ignore data from that address > > > is a good one if possible; you might even be able to track down the > > > culprit when they suddenly can't access your system anymore and ask why. > > > (Possible if it's a somehow compromised system on the internal network.) > > > > > > Another possibility is using host or nslookup if you've got internal > > > nameservers behind whatever's running your NAT setup (I'm making the > > > assumption that you're running NAT if you're on a private net.) > > > > > > If you happen to be the guy who's had Network admin position shoved upon > > > you, then you can try getting a null route added to the router for your > > > net connection at work and use that to see who complains about a sudden > > > lack of net access too, but I'd definitely be careful of that method. =) > > > > > > -- > > > George Metz > > > Commercial Routing Engineer > > > wolfstar(a)shadownet.wox.org > > > > > > "We know what deterrence was with 'mutually assured destruction' during > > > the Cold War. But what is deterrence in information warfare?" -- > > > Brigadier General Douglas Richardson, USAF, Commander - Space Warfare > > > Center > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Phil Deneault "We work in the dark, We do what we can, deneault(a)wpi.edu We give what we have. Our doubt is our passion, WPI NetOps and our passion is our task. The rest is the OpenVMS Guy maddness of art." - Henry James -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 24, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me?

by Phillip G Deneault

Chances are the machine that is performing the portscan is hacked himself. It does no good to "hack them back" because your not hacking the hackers...your hacking the hack. :-) On top of that, you'll only cloud the issue and, if the matter is taken to the authorities, you could also get in trouble. Not to mention the entire concept of hacking without authorization is unethical and illegal. I'm going to go say its not worth it. This does happen constantly if your connected to the Internet. Your best offense is a good defense. Phil On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Michael Frysinger wrote: > try and hack them back???????? > or just move on because it doesnt matter that much. > in the real world that shit happens all the time > -mike > > On Sunday 23 June 2002 08:42 am, David Goss wrote: > > and if it is a hacker???... what's the best way to send them back a little > > something to let them know you care??? > > > > dave goss > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "George Metz" <wolfstar(a)shadownet.wox.org> > > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 12:49 AM > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me? > > > > > On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I'm constantly getting port scanned from a certain IP address on our > > > > internal corporate network. I'd really like to find out where and who > > > > this > > > > > > person is, but don't know much outside of ping, traceroute, nslookup, > > > > etc > > > > > > .... I was wondering if anyone knows of any tools that can get me more > > > > information on this person? This happens to be on our private network, > > > > so > > > > > > most internet tools I don't think will help much. > > > > > > If it's on your internal net, then talking to the network admins for your > > > site should give you a good idea of where they're at and why they're > > > doing it. > > > > > > If there's no network admin on site, then you'll have to do some footwork > > > yourself. The suggestion to use IPTables to ignore data from that address > > > is a good one if possible; you might even be able to track down the > > > culprit when they suddenly can't access your system anymore and ask why. > > > (Possible if it's a somehow compromised system on the internal network.) > > > > > > Another possibility is using host or nslookup if you've got internal > > > nameservers behind whatever's running your NAT setup (I'm making the > > > assumption that you're running NAT if you're on a private net.) > > > > > > If you happen to be the guy who's had Network admin position shoved upon > > > you, then you can try getting a null route added to the router for your > > > net connection at work and use that to see who complains about a sudden > > > lack of net access too, but I'd definitely be careful of that method. =) > > > > > > -- > > > George Metz > > > Commercial Routing Engineer > > > wolfstar(a)shadownet.wox.org > > > > > > "We know what deterrence was with 'mutually assured destruction' during > > > the Cold War. But what is deterrence in information warfare?" -- > > > Brigadier General Douglas Richardson, USAF, Commander - Space Warfare > > > Center > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Phil Deneault "We work in the dark, We do what we can, deneault(a)wpi.edu We give what we have. Our doubt is our passion, WPI NetOps and our passion is our task. The rest is the OpenVMS Guy maddness of art." - Henry James -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

June 24, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me?

by Michael Frysinger

try and hack them back???????? or just move on because it doesnt matter that much. in the real world that shit happens all the time -mike On Sunday 23 June 2002 08:42 am, David Goss wrote: > and if it is a hacker???... what's the best way to send them back a little > something to let them know you care??? > > dave goss > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Metz" <wolfstar(a)shadownet.wox.org> > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 12:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me? > > > On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I'm constantly getting port scanned from a certain IP address on our > > > internal corporate network. I'd really like to find out where and who > > this > > > > person is, but don't know much outside of ping, traceroute, nslookup, > > etc > > > > .... I was wondering if anyone knows of any tools that can get me more > > > information on this person? This happens to be on our private network, > > so > > > > most internet tools I don't think will help much. > > > > If it's on your internal net, then talking to the network admins for your > > site should give you a good idea of where they're at and why they're > > doing it. > > > > If there's no network admin on site, then you'll have to do some footwork > > yourself. The suggestion to use IPTables to ignore data from that address > > is a good one if possible; you might even be able to track down the > > culprit when they suddenly can't access your system anymore and ask why. > > (Possible if it's a somehow compromised system on the internal network.) > > > > Another possibility is using host or nslookup if you've got internal > > nameservers behind whatever's running your NAT setup (I'm making the > > assumption that you're running NAT if you're on a private net.) > > > > If you happen to be the guy who's had Network admin position shoved upon > > you, then you can try getting a null route added to the router for your > > net connection at work and use that to see who complains about a sudden > > lack of net access too, but I'd definitely be careful of that method. =) > > > > -- > > George Metz > > Commercial Routing Engineer > > wolfstar(a)shadownet.wox.org > > > > "We know what deterrence was with 'mutually assured destruction' during > > the Cold War. But what is deterrence in information warfare?" -- > > Brigadier General Douglas Richardson, USAF, Commander - Space Warfare > > Center > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 24, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me?

by Karl Hiramoto

What I would try is setting up a firewall LOG chain in iptables. Have iptables default to closed/drop ports on a host. with the log chain you could see who is attempting to access the closed/drop ports. \ This would track the offending IP. IP adress fake? Not sure on that one. Should give you some usefull info though. On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm constantly getting port scanned from a certain IP address on our > internal corporate network. I'd really like to find out where and who this > person is, but don't know much outside of ping, traceroute, nslookup, etc > .... I was wondering if anyone knows of any tools that can get me more > information on this person? This happens to be on our private network, so > most internet tools I don't think will help much. > > Thanks for your time. > > Matthew -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø QOTD: "Like this rose, our love will wilt and die."

June 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me?

by David Goss

and if it is a hacker???... what's the best way to send them back a little something to let them know you care??? dave goss ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Metz" <wolfstar(a)shadownet.wox.org> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me? > On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm constantly getting port scanned from a certain IP address on our > > internal corporate network. I'd really like to find out where and who this > > person is, but don't know much outside of ping, traceroute, nslookup, etc > > .... I was wondering if anyone knows of any tools that can get me more > > information on this person? This happens to be on our private network, so > > most internet tools I don't think will help much. > > If it's on your internal net, then talking to the network admins for your > site should give you a good idea of where they're at and why they're doing > it. > > If there's no network admin on site, then you'll have to do some footwork > yourself. The suggestion to use IPTables to ignore data from that address > is a good one if possible; you might even be able to track down the > culprit when they suddenly can't access your system anymore and ask why. > (Possible if it's a somehow compromised system on the internal network.) > > Another possibility is using host or nslookup if you've got internal > nameservers behind whatever's running your NAT setup (I'm making the > assumption that you're running NAT if you're on a private net.) > > If you happen to be the guy who's had Network admin position shoved upon > you, then you can try getting a null route added to the router for your > net connection at work and use that to see who complains about a sudden > lack of net access too, but I'd definitely be careful of that method. =) > > -- > George Metz > Commercial Routing Engineer > wolfstar(a)shadownet.wox.org > > "We know what deterrence was with 'mutually assured destruction' during > the Cold War. But what is deterrence in information warfare?" -- Brigadier > General Douglas Richardson, USAF, Commander - Space Warfare Center > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

June 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me?

by George Metz

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm constantly getting port scanned from a certain IP address on our > internal corporate network. I'd really like to find out where and who this > person is, but don't know much outside of ping, traceroute, nslookup, etc > .... I was wondering if anyone knows of any tools that can get me more > information on this person? This happens to be on our private network, so > most internet tools I don't think will help much. If it's on your internal net, then talking to the network admins for your site should give you a good idea of where they're at and why they're doing it. If there's no network admin on site, then you'll have to do some footwork yourself. The suggestion to use IPTables to ignore data from that address is a good one if possible; you might even be able to track down the culprit when they suddenly can't access your system anymore and ask why. (Possible if it's a somehow compromised system on the internal network.) Another possibility is using host or nslookup if you've got internal nameservers behind whatever's running your NAT setup (I'm making the assumption that you're running NAT if you're on a private net.) If you happen to be the guy who's had Network admin position shoved upon you, then you can try getting a null route added to the router for your net connection at work and use that to see who complains about a sudden lack of net access too, but I'd definitely be careful of that method. =) -- George Metz Commercial Routing Engineer wolfstar(a)shadownet.wox.org "We know what deterrence was with 'mutually assured destruction' during the Cold War. But what is deterrence in information warfare?" -- Brigadier General Douglas Richardson, USAF, Commander - Space Warfare Center

June 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me?

by Joe Riopel

You could download Sam Spade ( I only know of a windows version ). It will give you a good amount of information about an IP address. -Joe

June 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me?

by Peter Gutowski

On Friday, June 21, 2002 4:24 PM, Simoncini, Matthew <Matthew.Simoncini(a)bsci.com> wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I'm constantly getting port scanned from a certain IP address on our >internal corporate network. I'd really like to find out where and who this >person is, but don't know much outside of ping, traceroute, nslookup, etc >.... I was wondering if anyone knows of any tools that can get me more >information on this person? This happens to be on our private network, so >most internet tools I don't think will help much. > >Thanks for your time. > >Matthew >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > With iptables (upgrade to ipchains and so much more sophisticated) installed you can configure it to ignore *any* packet sent from that machine [defining it by IP address or MAC address] -- responding (or not, this case) as if your computer were turned off. Works for me. -- Peter Gutowski <peter(a)linuxchamps.com> // tel.: (413) 531-0123 "When in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered." --George Washington, _Rules for Civility and Decent Behavior_

June 21, 2002

Who is port scanning me?

by Simoncini, Matthew

Hi everyone, I'm constantly getting port scanned from a certain IP address on our internal corporate network. I'd really like to find out where and who this person is, but don't know much outside of ping, traceroute, nslookup, etc .... I was wondering if anyone knows of any tools that can get me more information on this person? This happens to be on our private network, so most internet tools I don't think will help much. Thanks for your time. Matthew

June 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] browser war

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 12:25:17PM -0400, Bill Smith wrote: wsmith> ahhh... and for the last few months, i've been using Galeon... 8\ That doesn't count as separate from Mozilla. It's still Gecko. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

June 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] browser war

by Bill Smith

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> wrote: KH> A co-worker wanted help checking his AOL e-mail. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ why does this scare me? KH> M$ IE now crashes on the webmail page. It is unuseable in most KH> cases. okay... this is normal. what's the problem? <g> KH> I installed netscape 6.2.3 the AOL webmail page works 100%. KH> So the Netscape/AOL time warner broswer works there. interesting. KH> return of the browser wars. ahhh... and for the last few months, i've been using Galeon... 8\ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com The truth is out there! * TAG! v3.0 *

June 20, 2002

browser war

by Karl Hiramoto

A co-worker wanted help checking his AOL e-mail. He would usually use M$ IE to longin to the AOL webmail. M$ IE now crashes on the webmail page. It is unuseable in most cases. I installed netscape 6.2.3 the AOL webmail page works 100%. So the Netscape/AOL time warner broswer works there. return of the browser wars. -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø PENGUINICITY!!

June 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] XO goes Chapter 11...

by Karl Hiramoto

@ my work we have X0 for both phone and data. I got the exact same message in my inbox yesterday. We're going to stay with XO for the moment. Hopefully we don't get screwed... On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Thought I'd pass this along in case anyone out there is thinking of going > with XO Communications. > > http://www.xo.com/news/restructuring_update.html > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Bershere's Formula for Failure: There are only two kinds of people who fail: those who listen to nobody... and those who listen to everybody.

June 19, 2002

XO goes Chapter 11...

by Stephen C. Daukas

Thought I'd pass this along in case anyone out there is thinking of going with XO Communications. http://www.xo.com/news/restructuring_update.html

June 19, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Boston Globe article

by Steve Freitag

You might also try sifting through directory.google.com... for example: http://directory.google.com/Top/Reference/Knowledge_Management/Knowledge _Flow/Collaboration/Tools/ http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Groupware/Open_Source / -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Mills-Curran Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:00 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Boston Globe article Since sending out my original email on this, I took a moment to look on freshmeat (what a concept -- looking for something myself!) and found this: http://cvw.sourceforge.net/ This is a public domain product that seems quite mature (at least the screenshots are cool). The client side is written in Java, and there are versions for both UNIX and Windows. This might be worth the time to investigate. Bill _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Boston Globe article

by Bill Mills-Curran

Since sending out my original email on this, I took a moment to look on freshmeat (what a concept -- looking for something myself!) and found this: http://cvw.sourceforge.net/ This is a public domain product that seems quite mature (at least the screenshots are cool). The client side is written in Java, and there are versions for both UNIX and Windows. This might be worth the time to investigate. Bill

June 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Boston Globe article

by Scott Venier

On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > One feature they mentioned that I have not encountered in the > UNIX/Linux/Gnu world is a collaborative whiteboard that allows > different users to share an electronic whiteboard. > > Has anyone seen anything like this in the open source community? > Ideally, it would be web-based so that it would not be specific to any > one client OS. > There's a java proram called bablyon that I found on freshmeat about a year ago. I haven't gone looking since then, but the choices were pretty slim at the time. Scott

June 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Laptop question - screen resolution

by doug waud

Andy Stewart wrote: > When I run X and then run xvidtune, when I'm in 1024x768 mode, it indicates a > refresh of 60 Hz. However, when I run in 800x600 mode, xvidtune thinks the > refresh rate is around 90Hz, and in 640x480 mode, xvidtune thinks the refresh > rate is 131 Hz(!). I'm not sure I believe it since I don't think the display > can handle that (but if it is true, am I seriously overdriving the display?). I don't think so. The usual concerns about cooking monitors arise out of the use of the horizontal sync on TV's etc to provide the 25 or so KV needed for electron acceleration. When you are generating 25 KV even at a very low current the power goes up a lot. Hence, the horizontal system is usually engineered near the limit and this is why it is dangerous to exceed those design values. The LCD panel does not have this electron accelerating potential so the above does not apply. > Also note that in the lower resolution modes, the display actually looks a > tad fuzzy. I am not using anti-aliased fonts. As already noted by Brian and Chuck, that is par for the course. An LCD is very simple. It is an array of dots 1024 by 768 in your case, 800 by 600 in mine. Thus the video driver expects exactly that number and, if you ask for anything else will either have to interpolate (hence the fuzzy) or just use a subset (the small screen Chuck notes). The bottom line is that using screen resolutions other than that innate to the screen is pointless. One exception of relevance to you as mother superior of WLUG. If you are in Kinnicutt and want to use the projector, you may have to drop back to a resolution the projector can digest. :-) Incidentally, if the 1024 by 768 gives fonts that are too small, you can usually change font size in the application (not a problem for you but I am getting to the point where eyesight limitations are starting to be noticeable :-( ) > Is this normal for laptops or am I doing something wrong? Yes, yes. :-) doug

June 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Laptop question - screen resolution

by Charles R. Anderson

On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 10:42:54PM -0400, Brian J.Conway wrote: bconway> Most LCDs are generally meant to be run at a single resolution and will bconway> look fuzzy at less than that. Try upping it, my Dell Inspiron 8000 with bconway> 15" screen looks crisp (and correct) at 1400x1050 but gets fuzzy at bconway> 1280x1024 and less. I'm not sure the real technical details on how those bconway> suckers work, that's just my experience. Yes, LCD's always run at the same resolution (the max that they advertise usually). To get the other "resolutions" there are two methods: 1. Use only the center area of the screen to display smaller resolutions. The border around the image is black. 1 pixel at the resolution you chose == 1 real pixel on the LCD. 2. Stretch the requested resolution to fill the entire area of the LCD. This method, obviously, must always look fuzzy, since you are using more than one "real" pixel to display a simulated pixel. 1 pixel at the resolution you chose > 1 real pixel on the LCD. You can usually select which method you want to use in the system BIOS. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

June 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Laptop question - screen resolution

by Brian J.Conway

> When I run X and then run xvidtune, when I'm in 1024x768 mode, it > indicates a refresh of 60 Hz. However, when I run in 800x600 mode, > xvidtune thinks the refresh rate is around 90Hz, and in 640x480 mode, > xvidtune thinks the refresh rate is 131 Hz(!). I'm not sure I believe > it since I don't think the display can handle that (but if it is true, > am I seriously overdriving the display?). Chances are good your LCD screen is fixed at 60 Hz for all resolutions. > Also note that in the lower resolution modes, the display actually looks > a tad fuzzy. I am not using anti-aliased fonts. > > Is this normal for laptops or am I doing something wrong? Most LCDs are generally meant to be run at a single resolution and will look fuzzy at less than that. Try upping it, my Dell Inspiron 8000 with 15" screen looks crisp (and correct) at 1400x1050 but gets fuzzy at 1280x1024 and less. I'm not sure the real technical details on how those suckers work, that's just my experience. Brian J. Conway bconway(a)wpi.edu "Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves." - Albert Einstein

June 18, 2002

Laptop question - screen resolution

by Andy Stewart

HI WLUG, My laptop has a 15" screen rated for 1024x768. I setup my laptop to have 3 resolutions in my XF86Config file: 1024x768 (default) 800x600 640x480 With XFree86 4.x, it appears that I don't explicitly need to specify a mode line any more (but I can if I wish). SuSE's configuration process puts a mode line in for me. When I run X and then run xvidtune, when I'm in 1024x768 mode, it indicates a refresh of 60 Hz. However, when I run in 800x600 mode, xvidtune thinks the refresh rate is around 90Hz, and in 640x480 mode, xvidtune thinks the refresh rate is 131 Hz(!). I'm not sure I believe it since I don't think the display can handle that (but if it is true, am I seriously overdriving the display?). Also note that in the lower resolution modes, the display actually looks a tad fuzzy. I am not using anti-aliased fonts. Is this normal for laptops or am I doing something wrong? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Javascript Help

by Wesley Allen

thanks, I'll try this out. Wes On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 19:14, Michael Frysinger wrote: > what i do is give the encapsulating element an id > id=f00 > then in the mouseover event, i just create a new > element, and set element f00 equal to it > then on mouseout, i restore the original table > in this way i have a bar on the right of mouseovers, > with the large center table changing > if you want some example code ill send it private like > -mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wesley Allen" <wallen(a)charter.net> > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 16:49 > Subject: [Wlug] Javascript Help > > > > Guys, > > My Javascript + dhtml has always been one great hack. And, unlike the > > other scripting languages I use (all open source) there just doesn't > > seem to be a great "javascript community" on the web. Just lots of free > > samples (yes, i've googled, maybe not enough). > > > > Here's my problem. I've got a table and I want one column to be used > > to display the different links in each area. If I mouse over "about us" > > I want the other table to display the links for that area. > > > > when I do this outside a table, I just create a bunch of <div>'s that > > are hidden, and just Javascript to make them visible and raise their > > z-index at the proper time (yes, terrible hack, my javascript sucks). > > In the table, I'm not sure how to "stack" the different <div>'s. I > > though relative positioning would do the trick, because the parent for > > all of the <div>'s should be the <td> tag, but instead the <div>'s > > relatively position to one another. So, I'm kinda stuck. > > > > Any help you can give would be great, web sites with tutorials are > > great too. Pre-made scripts are ok, but I'm actually trying to learn > > something here. > > > > Thanks, > > Wes > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Javascript Help

by Michael Frysinger

what i do is give the encapsulating element an id id=f00 then in the mouseover event, i just create a new element, and set element f00 equal to it then on mouseout, i restore the original table in this way i have a bar on the right of mouseovers, with the large center table changing if you want some example code ill send it private like -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wesley Allen" <wallen(a)charter.net> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 16:49 Subject: [Wlug] Javascript Help > Guys, > My Javascript + dhtml has always been one great hack. And, unlike the > other scripting languages I use (all open source) there just doesn't > seem to be a great "javascript community" on the web. Just lots of free > samples (yes, i've googled, maybe not enough). > > Here's my problem. I've got a table and I want one column to be used > to display the different links in each area. If I mouse over "about us" > I want the other table to display the links for that area. > > when I do this outside a table, I just create a bunch of <div>'s that > are hidden, and just Javascript to make them visible and raise their > z-index at the proper time (yes, terrible hack, my javascript sucks). > In the table, I'm not sure how to "stack" the different <div>'s. I > though relative positioning would do the trick, because the parent for > all of the <div>'s should be the <td> tag, but instead the <div>'s > relatively position to one another. So, I'm kinda stuck. > > Any help you can give would be great, web sites with tutorials are > great too. Pre-made scripts are ok, but I'm actually trying to learn > something here. > > Thanks, > Wes > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

June 17, 2002

Boston Globe article

by Bill Mills-Curran

http://digitalmass.boston.com/news/globe_tech/at_large/2002/0617.html Today's edition of the Boston Globe has an article about collaborative tools. Featured in the article is a product called SiteScape which I had seemed demo'd just last week. Many of the features of the collaborative tool set are familiar to me in other settings: email, IRC (for "immediate" stuff), news (for discussions) and version control to track document modifications. One feature they mentioned that I have not encountered in the UNIX/Linux/Gnu world is a collaborative whiteboard that allows different users to share an electronic whiteboard. Has anyone seen anything like this in the open source community? Ideally, it would be web-based so that it would not be specific to any one client OS. Thanks, Bill

June 17, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Xmon / Serial cable

by Skip Gaede

On Friday 14 June 2002 06:57, Skip Gaede wrote: > Folks, > > I'd like to try my hand at debugging the kernel boot process on a Macintosh > PPC. I have a couple of silly questions, though. > Folks, As an update, I was able to debug the boot process without resorting to a debugger. I found two techniques worked well: putting the kernel into an infinite loop at strategic points in the process, either unconditionally or based on the result of a test: for(;<test>;){int foo;foo++;} and/or using low level routines for displaying information on the console: ptext_drawstring, and ptext_drawhex; The fact that the bug I was chasing had to do with the nonrelocation of the console framebuffer made printing somewhat unreliable, The good news is that I found the bug, the kernel is mostly working, and the latest swapping code is much better than the 2.4.13 code I previously had access to. --Skip

June 17, 2002

RE:[SOLVED] [Wlug] Burning ISO's

by Simoncini, Matthew

Thanks everyone for their input and offers for burning 7.3 to CD's. I actually found what I needed with the existing burn software I have. It was under "Global Image or Other Image", in my case ISO is Other Image. -----Original Message----- From: David Goss [mailto:vze2bd6u@verizon.net] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:30 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Burning ISO's i've got 73 on cd if you need a copy... but from what i've seen so far don't rush into anyuthing... 72 with a couple kernal upgrades runs just as well... assimilation is futile dave goss ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:50 PM Subject: RE: [Wlug] Burning ISO's > Your other solution might be to bribe a member of wlug to make a copy of > their 7.3 disks in exchange for a free beer after the meeting tonight. > > unfortunately, 1. I don't drink beer and 2. I won't be able to attend, > otherwise I'd make a copy for you... > > Later, > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simoncini, Matthew [mailto:Matthew.Simoncini@bsci.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:55 PM > To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' > Subject: [Wlug] Burning ISO's > > > Hi everyone, > > I recently downloaded the iso's for Red Hat 7.3 and wanted to burn them to > CD so I can install the distro on my home PC. I've never burned iso's > before, so this is new to me. I have the following setup: > > Work PC running Windows 2000 w/ iso images for Red Hat 7.3 saved to hard > drive > CD Burner > Prassi PrimoCD Plus 2.0 burner software by Veritas > > From the little that I know, I understand that iso images need to be burned > in a certain way rather than just copied to a CD-ROM. Can anyone point me to > a site or a particular program for burning iso's? > > Thanks. > > Matthew > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 17, 2002

JavaScript Help

by Wesley Allen

OK, here is my hack of a function (I'll make it better later). Right now, it works in mozilla and Konqueror; but not IE. Anyone out there know Javascript well enough to tell me how to make this cross-browser? function changeMap(map) { if (map == 1) { document.bingo.setAttribute("usemap","#map1"); } else if(map == 2){ document.bingo.setAttribute("usemap","#map2"); } } Thanks, Wes

June 16, 2002

RedFlag Linux

by Andy Stewart

HI gang, I downloaded a copy of RedFlag Linux last night (straight from China) for a friend. I tried to run it on VMware, but it immediately wants to enable the frame buffer device and VMware doesn't seem to support that. On another old machine, it can't handle my ancient PAS16 SCSI controller as part of the installation process. I ran it part way on my laptop to get to the installation screen, so I know the CD works. (I have a low quality screenshot if anybody is interested). I'd be interested to see it running, even though I can't read Chinese. If anybody wants a copy, let me know and I'll make you one. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 16, 2002

Javascript Help

by Wesley Allen

Guys, My Javascript + dhtml has always been one great hack. And, unlike the other scripting languages I use (all open source) there just doesn't seem to be a great "javascript community" on the web. Just lots of free samples (yes, i've googled, maybe not enough). Here's my problem. I've got a table and I want one column to be used to display the different links in each area. If I mouse over "about us" I want the other table to display the links for that area. when I do this outside a table, I just create a bunch of <div>'s that are hidden, and just Javascript to make them visible and raise their z-index at the proper time (yes, terrible hack, my javascript sucks). In the table, I'm not sure how to "stack" the different <div>'s. I though relative positioning would do the trick, because the parent for all of the <div>'s should be the <td> tag, but instead the <div>'s relatively position to one another. So, I'm kinda stuck. Any help you can give would be great, web sites with tutorials are great too. Pre-made scripts are ok, but I'm actually trying to learn something here. Thanks, Wes

June 15, 2002

Fwd: GNHLUG Quarterly Meeting Rescheduled to 10 July 2002

by Andy Stewart

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: GNHLUG Quarterly Meeting Rescheduled to 10 July 2002 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 15:32:55 -0400 From: pll(a)lanminds.com To: gnhlug-announce(a)zk3.dec.com Hi all, Ximian has requested a rescheduling of our 26 June meeting to 10 July because Nat is unable to make the original date due to travelling conflict. Everyone who contacted me believed rescheduling the date was preferable to continuing without Nat and the Mono talk. For all those already registered, there is no need to re-register. If you will be unable to make the new 10 July date and have registered, please contact me privately at: pll+gnhlug at NoSpam lanminds dot com and I will remove you from the rsvp list. If you have not yet registered, and wish to do so, the registration form can be found here: http://md.appropriatesolutions.com/gnhlug/register.html I apologize for the inconvenience, and thanks for your co-operation. -- Seeya, Paul Paul Lussier Senior Systems and Network Engineer Co-Chairman, Greater New Hampshire Linux User's Group (GNHLUG) Chairman, Nashua Chapter GNHLUG http://www.gnhlug.org Events: http://md.appropriatesolutions.com/gnhlug/lug_cal/month.php ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 15, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Xmon / Serial cable

by Andy Stewart

> > You can probably buy a null modem cable at radio shack. It might also be > > sold as a lap-link serial cable. Be sure that the sex (protruding pins > > vs. recepticle) of the connector on the cable matches that on the > > computer you will connect to. Be careful here. A null modem cable and a laplink cable have different connections, as I found out the hard way when I wanted to get PLIP working between two Linux boxes. I did find websites that sell cables and spec the pinout. Regardless of what they call it, if you know the pinout, you're in business. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 15, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Burning ISO's

by David Goss

i've got 73 on cd if you need a copy... but from what i've seen so far don't rush into anyuthing... 72 with a couple kernal upgrades runs just as well... assimilation is futile dave goss ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:50 PM Subject: RE: [Wlug] Burning ISO's > Your other solution might be to bribe a member of wlug to make a copy of > their 7.3 disks in exchange for a free beer after the meeting tonight. > > unfortunately, 1. I don't drink beer and 2. I won't be able to attend, > otherwise I'd make a copy for you... > > Later, > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simoncini, Matthew [mailto:Matthew.Simoncini@bsci.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:55 PM > To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' > Subject: [Wlug] Burning ISO's > > > Hi everyone, > > I recently downloaded the iso's for Red Hat 7.3 and wanted to burn them to > CD so I can install the distro on my home PC. I've never burned iso's > before, so this is new to me. I have the following setup: > > Work PC running Windows 2000 w/ iso images for Red Hat 7.3 saved to hard > drive > CD Burner > Prassi PrimoCD Plus 2.0 burner software by Veritas > > From the little that I know, I understand that iso images need to be burned > in a certain way rather than just copied to a CD-ROM. Can anyone point me to > a site or a particular program for burning iso's? > > Thanks. > > Matthew > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 15, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Xmon / Serial cable

by Skip Gaede

On Friday 14 June 2002 08:01, Evans, Robert wrote: > To answer question 2... > A search for "null modem cable" on google will give you lots of good hits. > For local kernel debug, you might just need to connect: > Athlon Mac > ground to ground > txd to rxd > rxd to txd > > If that is not enough, handshaking might require additional connections. > There are variations, but I have had success, in other applications, > with this handshaking setup: > dtr to cd & dsr > cd & dsr to dtr > rts to cts > cts to rts > > On a 9-pin connector: > 1 = cd > 2 = rxd > 3 = txd > 4 = dtr > 5 = ground > 6 = dsr > 7 = rts > 8 = cts > 9 = ri > > You can probably buy a null modem cable at radio shack. It might also be > sold as a lap-link serial cable. Be sure that the sex (protruding pins vs. > recepticle) of the connector on the cable matches that on the computer you > will connect to. > > Robert N. Evans > Software Engineer > S T R A T U S T E C H N O L O G I E S > 111 Powdermill Road, Maynard, MA 01754-3409 U.S.A. > * Tel. 978-461-7680 / * Fax. 978-461-3610 > robert.evans(a)stratus.com > Amateur Radio Call: N1BE > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Skip Gaede [mailto:sgaede@attbi.com] > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 6:58 AM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Xmon / Serial cable > > Thanks, After sending this out, I did find a great reference: http://www.conexus.com.au/support/general/macserialcabling/macserialcabling… Unfortunately, I haven't been able to discover anything on xmon!

June 14, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Xmon / Serial cable

by Josh Huber

Skip Gaede <sgaede(a)attbi.com> writes: > Folks, > > I'd like to try my hand at debugging the kernel boot process on a > Macintosh PPC. I have a couple of silly questions, though. Well, it has a lot to do with what model Mac it is. For example, recent machines do not typically have a serial port. > 1) Can I debug a Mac from an x86 box using Xmon? You can, depending on the model machine you've got. > 2) I need a null modem cable to connect my Athlon and my Mac. > Any thoughts as to where I could buy such a beast, or how to wire > one up from parts obtained from Radio Shack? Also depends on the model... -- Josh Huber

June 14, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Xmon / Serial cable

by Evans, Robert

To answer question 2... A search for "null modem cable" on google will give you lots of good hits. For local kernel debug, you might just need to connect: Athlon Mac ground to ground txd to rxd rxd to txd If that is not enough, handshaking might require additional connections. There are variations, but I have had success, in other applications, with this handshaking setup: dtr to cd & dsr cd & dsr to dtr rts to cts cts to rts On a 9-pin connector: 1 = cd 2 = rxd 3 = txd 4 = dtr 5 = ground 6 = dsr 7 = rts 8 = cts 9 = ri You can probably buy a null modem cable at radio shack. It might also be sold as a lap-link serial cable. Be sure that the sex (protruding pins vs. recepticle) of the connector on the cable matches that on the computer you will connect to. Robert N. Evans Software Engineer S T R A T U S T E C H N O L O G I E S 111 Powdermill Road, Maynard, MA 01754-3409 U.S.A. * Tel. 978-461-7680 / * Fax. 978-461-3610 robert.evans(a)stratus.com Amateur Radio Call: N1BE -----Original Message----- From: Skip Gaede [mailto:sgaede@attbi.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 6:58 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Xmon / Serial cable Folks, I'd like to try my hand at debugging the kernel boot process on a Macintosh PPC. I have a couple of silly questions, though. 1) Can I debug a Mac from an x86 box using Xmon? 2) I need a null modem cable to connect my Athlon and my Mac. Any thoughts as to where I could buy such a beast, or how to wire one up from parts obtained from Radio Shack? Thanks, Skip _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 14, 2002

Xmon / Serial cable

by Skip Gaede

Folks, I'd like to try my hand at debugging the kernel boot process on a Macintosh PPC. I have a couple of silly questions, though. 1) Can I debug a Mac from an x86 box using Xmon? 2) I need a null modem cable to connect my Athlon and my Mac. Any thoughts as to where I could buy such a beast, or how to wire one up from parts obtained from Radio Shack? Thanks, Skip

June 14, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Burning ISO's

by Keller, Tim

Your other solution might be to bribe a member of wlug to make a copy of their 7.3 disks in exchange for a free beer after the meeting tonight. unfortunately, 1. I don't drink beer and 2. I won't be able to attend, otherwise I'd make a copy for you... Later, Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Simoncini, Matthew [mailto:Matthew.Simoncini@bsci.com] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:55 PM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: [Wlug] Burning ISO's Hi everyone, I recently downloaded the iso's for Red Hat 7.3 and wanted to burn them to CD so I can install the distro on my home PC. I've never burned iso's before, so this is new to me. I have the following setup: Work PC running Windows 2000 w/ iso images for Red Hat 7.3 saved to hard drive CD Burner Prassi PrimoCD Plus 2.0 burner software by Veritas

June 13, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Burning ISO's

by Theo Van Dinter

On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 12:54:33PM -0400, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > >From the little that I know, I understand that iso images need to be burned > in a certain way rather than just copied to a CD-ROM. Can anyone point me to > a site or a particular program for burning iso's? Right. You want to burn the image, not burn an image with a file which is an image. (say that three times fast.) Usually the software has a "burn from image" or "burn from master" option that lets you select a file and burn that to a cd. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "The Beatles used more hair products then Jesus." - Rusty McGee

June 13, 2002

Re: [Wlug] aliases with sendmail.

by Theo Van Dinter

On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 12:43:09PM -0400, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > sales(a)host1.com forwards to user1's inbox > sales(a)host2.com forwards to user2's inbox > > Is this possible with sendmail? I've trid doing it in the > /etc/aliases file and had no luck. when I run the newaliases command > it gives me a warning and it doesn't work corectly when I tested it. You need to setup virtual hosting. I don't actually use the RH default sendmail (I roll my own), but I believe the default one already has virtual hosting enabled. What you'd need to do is: 1) Edit /etc/mail/local-host-names and add "host1.com" and "host2.com" (this should already be done actually.) 2) Edit /etc/mail/virtusertable and add: @host1.com error:nouser User unknown sales(a)host1.com user1 @host2.com error:nouser User unknown sales(a)host2.com user2 3) cd /etc/mail && make Theoretically, that should be all you need to do. You can test via "sendmail -bv". For instance: "sendmail -bv 'theo(a)vandinter.org'" returns "theo(a)vandinter.org... deliverable: mailer local, user felicity" for me. You'll need to do more work if virtusertable isn't already configured for your sendmail. There's a lot of information at http://www.sendmail.org/virtual-hosting.html. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "This car began to rust while it was still in the showroom." - Unknown about the Dodge Aspen/ Plymouth Volare

June 13, 2002

Burning ISO's

by Simoncini, Matthew

Hi everyone, I recently downloaded the iso's for Red Hat 7.3 and wanted to burn them to CD so I can install the distro on my home PC. I've never burned iso's before, so this is new to me. I have the following setup: Work PC running Windows 2000 w/ iso images for Red Hat 7.3 saved to hard drive CD Burner Prassi PrimoCD Plus 2.0 burner software by Veritas

June 13, 2002

Re: [Wlug] aliases with sendmail.

by Karl Hiramoto

nevermind. RTFM http://www.sendmail.org/virtual-hosting.html On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > I have a mail server setup with sendmail 8.11.6 (redhat 7.2) that > recieves mail for multiple domains. > > What I am trying to setup is this: > > sales(a)host1.com forwards to user1's inbox > sales(a)host2.com forwards to user2's inbox > > Is this possible with sendmail? I've trid doing it in the > /etc/aliases file and had no luck. when I run the newaliases command > it gives me a warning and it doesn't work corectly when I tested it. > > > I would prefer not to have to install qmail or some other mail server. > > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Q: What's the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead lawyer in the road? A: There are skid marks in front of the dog.

June 13, 2002

aliases with sendmail.

by Karl Hiramoto

I have a mail server setup with sendmail 8.11.6 (redhat 7.2) that recieves mail for multiple domains. What I am trying to setup is this: sales(a)host1.com forwards to user1's inbox sales(a)host2.com forwards to user2's inbox Is this possible with sendmail? I've trid doing it in the /etc/aliases file and had no luck. when I run the newaliases command it gives me a warning and it doesn't work corectly when I tested it. I would prefer not to have to install qmail or some other mail server. -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Q: What's the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead lawyer in the road? A: There are skid marks in front of the dog.

June 13, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Permission Problems Accessing Server-based NFS Share

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 10:46:03PM -0400, James E. Rame wrote: rame620> But, when I tried to access an exported NFS share on my server machine rame620> from my client machine, I got a "permission denied" error message. On rame620> accessing the client-side mount point, I see the subdirectories but they rame620> are noted to be locked. Are you trying to access files as root on the client? By default, the NFS server "squashes" root privileges for security. If it didn't, then the server would be completely open to attack by insecure NFS clients. Imagine copying a setuid shell to an NFS share from a client as root, and then logging into the server as a normal user and gaining root by running that shell you just copied there... You should use another user to access the files, or put them into a group and give group read/write access. If you REALLY want to run an insecure NFS setup, you can turn off root squashing by adding an option to /etc/exports on the server: /exported/directory 192.168.0.1(ro,no_root_squash) For read-only access, this isn't so bad. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

June 13, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Permission Problems Accessing Server-based NFS Share

by Simoncini, Matthew

<snip> >Might someone out there have another solution? Is there something else >I can do to solve this problem without having to leave read, write and >execute privileges on the directory to such a broad class of users? On the server, what are the user:groups assigned? Do you have the same user/group created on each server/workstation with the same UID and GID? Just a couple of things to think about. Matthew _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 13, 2002

Fwd: 2nd Quarter GNHLUG Meeting - Wednesday, 26 June 2002

by Andy Stewart

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: 2nd Quarter GNHLUG Meeting - Wednesday, 26 June 2002 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:24:10 -0400 From: pll(a)lanminds.com To: andystewart(a)attbi.com (Andy Stewart) Hi Andy, I just sent this out to GNHLUG today, feel free to send it WLUG! 8<----------------------8<----------------------8<----------------------8<--- - PLEASE REGISTER IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING: http://md.appropriatesolutions.com/gnhlug/register.html Who: All GNHLUG members, the general public, and anyone else who wants to come along. What: 2nd Quarterly meeting When: 19:30ish, 26 June 2002 Where: Daniel Webster College 20 University Drive Nashua, NH 03063 Why: Ximian Co-Founder and VP of Product Development Nat Friedman and friends will be coming to speak to us about GNOME and Ximian. Directions: http://www.dwc.edu/admissions/directions.asp A campus "map" is at this URL: http://web.dwc.edu/CampusMap/campus_map.html but do not expect to print it off at the last minute, as it is an "active" map, and does not show building names until you touch them with your mouse. A nice idea, but I would have been happy if a good old-fashioned 2-D map was also supplied. PLEASE REGISTER IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING: http://md.appropriatesolutions.com/gnhlug/register.html 8<----------------------8<----------------------8<----------------------8<--- - Thanks! -- Seeya, Paul Paul Lussier Senior Systems and Network Engineer Co-Chairman, Greater New Hampshire Linux User's Group (GNHLUG) Chairman, Nashua Chapter GNHLUG http://www.gnhlug.org Events: http://md.appropriatesolutions.com/gnhlug/lug_cal/month.php ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 13, 2002

Permission Problems Accessing Server-based NFS Share

by James E. Rame

Help! I want to set up my home network so that I can access my files stored on the server (Mandrake 8.0) from my client machine (RedHat 7.3) using NFS. I configured /etc/export on the server side and made certain that both nfs-utils and portmap were running on the server. I proceeded to mount the exported directory at a mount point I set up on the client machine without a problem. But, when I tried to access an exported NFS share on my server machine from my client machine, I got a "permission denied" error message. On accessing the client-side mount point, I see the subdirectories but they are noted to be locked. I was eventually able to get access to the directory but only by going into the server and enabling read, write and execute privileges for "others." Might someone out there have another solution? Is there something else I can do to solve this problem without having to leave read, write and execute privileges on the directory to such a broad class of users? Jim

June 13, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Wireless

by Wesley Allen

I just picked one up as well (it's not here yet though), my searches seemed to say it was supported though....any ideas? Wes On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 11:16, Chuck Haines wrote: > I just bought a new Netgear Ma401 wireless card. I figured it was > pretty cheap and it seemed like it was supported under linux. Well > after doing some research I've found conflicting views. Some say its a > PrismII based card, some say its a Orinco card. I have no idea and I'm > new wireless with linux. My question is, does anyone have this card and > wants to point me in the right direction. Or can someone point me in > the right direction for wireless and linux in general. > > Thanks, > -- > ------------------------------------------------- > | Chuck Haines | AIM: CyberGrex | > | WPILA Lab Manager | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | > | GDC Webmaster | ICQ: 3707881 | > | http://www.wpila.org | http://gdc.wpi.edu | > ------------------------------------------------- > "Geek by nature, Linux by choice." > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Wireless

by Josh Huber

Chuck Haines <chaines(a)WPI.EDU> writes: > I just bought a new Netgear Ma401 wireless card. I figured it was > pretty cheap and it seemed like it was supported under linux. Well > after doing some research I've found conflicting views. Some say > its a PrismII based card, some say its a Orinco card. I have no > idea and I'm new wireless with linux. My question is, does anyone > have this card and wants to point me in the right direction. Or can > someone point me in the right direction for wireless and linux in > general. I'm pretty sure the Prisim II chipset is supported by the Orinoco driver. (and there's also a Prisim driver aparently, which I haven't tried yet) Is this a PCMCIA card? You'll need to enable support for this card in the kernel (if it isn't already). It's under the Network Device Support->Wireless LAN (non-hamradio)->Hermes chip 802.11b support (...) Enable that option, and the appropriate support option below it (PCI, PCMCIA, etc, depending on what kind of card you have) Of course, this doesn't sound good: Support for these adaptors is so far still incomplete and buggy. You have been warned. This is from the help text for the Ma301 driver support option. Good luck, -- Josh Huber

June 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] OSs with RPM

by Brad Noyes

I didn't think it was possible. But using source rpms is a greate idea, and may be a way around it. using rpm is a must (it's not my desision), so using .app packages would not work, at least for me. Thanks! --brad On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 12:16:27PM -0400, Nate Godin wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Brad Noyes wrote: > > Hi all, Does anyone know if there'a a way to build a single rpm that can > > be applied to multiple OSs? > > Hmm... I don't think this is possible with binary RPM's, but you could > distribute the source RPM, assuming the installees have the resources to > compile the app in question. > > The only OS I've ever personally encountered that does this is > NeXT/OpenSTEP, which has .app packages, which are actually just binaries, > libraries, pixmaps, and various other program resources stored in a > directory hierarchy. "Fat" .app's contained both i386 and m68k binaries. > It may be possible to use this format on other platforms... check out > GNUSTEP and Darwin. > > http://www.gnustep.org/ > http://developer.apple.com/darwin/ > > Nate > -- > > Experience is not what happens to you; it is what you do with what happens > to you. > -- Aldous Huxley > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] OSs with RPM

by Nate Godin

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Brad Noyes wrote: > Hi all, Does anyone know if there'a a way to build a single rpm that can > be applied to multiple OSs? Hmm... I don't think this is possible with binary RPM's, but you could distribute the source RPM, assuming the installees have the resources to compile the app in question. The only OS I've ever personally encountered that does this is NeXT/OpenSTEP, which has .app packages, which are actually just binaries, libraries, pixmaps, and various other program resources stored in a directory hierarchy. "Fat" .app's contained both i386 and m68k binaries. It may be possible to use this format on other platforms... check out GNUSTEP and Darwin. http://www.gnustep.org/ http://developer.apple.com/darwin/ Nate -- Experience is not what happens to you; it is what you do with what happens to you. -- Aldous Huxley

June 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] OSs with RPM

by Brad Noyes

The porting part is all taken care of, thankfully. Although one of the platforms i'm working with is cygwin. rpm already uses uname to determine the OS. But if you build a package on one system, say Linux and i try installing it on Cygwin, i get the error the the package was build for a different OS. I want to build a rpm package simaliar to how noarch rpms, but instead of arch independent i want it to be OS independent. There are tags for the spec file '%ifos ... %endif', but that's only for the build machine. I also noticed that in the system rpmrc file (/usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc), that all archs are compatable to 'noarch' like so arch_compat: alpha: axp noarch but i don't see a common name that all OSs are compatable with. i don't think this is possible but i thought i'd ask anyway. Thanks, --brad On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 11:15:53AM -0400, Keller, Tim wrote: > I would think the first thing would be porting RPM to those multiple OS's. > > >From there it would be a matter of creating a pre script that could use some > reliable (like uname or something) mechanism to determine what the OS is and > what needs to be done. > > Are you talking strictly unixish Os's or do you want to see RPM on MS filth? > > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Noyes [mailto:maitre@ccs.neu.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:10 AM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] OSs with RPM > > > Hi all, > Does anyone know if there'a a way to build a single rpm that can be applied > to > multiple OSs? > > Thanks, > --brad > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 12, 2002

Wireless

by Chuck Haines

I just bought a new Netgear Ma401 wireless card. I figured it was pretty cheap and it seemed like it was supported under linux. Well after doing some research I've found conflicting views. Some say its a PrismII based card, some say its a Orinco card. I have no idea and I'm new wireless with linux. My question is, does anyone have this card and wants to point me in the right direction. Or can someone point me in the right direction for wireless and linux in general. Thanks, -- ------------------------------------------------- | Chuck Haines | AIM: CyberGrex | | WPILA Lab Manager | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | | GDC Webmaster | ICQ: 3707881 | | http://www.wpila.org | http://gdc.wpi.edu | ------------------------------------------------- "Geek by nature, Linux by choice."

June 12, 2002

RE: [Wlug] OSs with RPM

by Keller, Tim

I would think the first thing would be porting RPM to those multiple OS's.

June 12, 2002

OSs with RPM

by Brad Noyes

Hi all, Does anyone know if there'a a way to build a single rpm that can be applied to multiple OSs? Thanks, --brad

June 12, 2002

Explicit Congestion Notification

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 08:49:04AM -0400, Bill Smith wrote: wsmith> Interesting. I couldn't get to the domain. This is really irritating wsmith> when EVERYONE refers to this one document. 8\ Are you using Linux 2.4? Do you have trouble reaching www.kernel.org too? See this document: http://www.gtf.org/garzik/ecn/ In Linux 2.4, ECN is enabled and disabled with a sysctl called tcp_ecn which is documented in: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt You can find out if your system is using ECN: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn If a 1 shows up there, you are using ECN and may be unable to reach sites which incorrectly filter packets that use the ECN bits. You can try turning ECN support off: echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn However, if the remote site is using ECN and there is a broken firewall between you and them, you may be out of luck. Are you behind a firewall? If so, you might want to check its configuration if possible. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

June 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] meeting topic brainstorm

by Bill Smith

On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:53:48 -0400 "Charles R. Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: CRA> I'd personally love to see a talk on LDAPv3 w/KerberosV done on CRA> Linux. Bonus points if someone has gotten this to interoperate CRA> with Active Directory(which is basically just that). Here's the CRA> HOWTO: CRA> CRA> http://www.bayour.com/LDAPv3-HOWTO.html Interesting. I couldn't get to the domain. This is really irritating when EVERYONE refers to this one document. 8\ there's another LDAP HOWTO on Linux.org .... :) the link for THAT is http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/LDAP-HOWTO.html ... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com How is it that a building burns up as it burns down? * TAG! v3.0 *

June 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Automatically setting passwords...

by Scott Venier

Assuming you're using a reasonably current linux distro, you probably want to be doing this through pam. http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Authen-PAM should get you going. This way you'd get all the locking and atomic operations that you really want when messing with the passwd files. Scott On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Chuck Haines wrote: > Interesting enough after I sent the last email. I did some research (yes > it was quick research) and came up with a couple things that might iterest > you. There is a package called MD%-crypt which should suit your purpose > (http://search.cpan.org/doc/LUISMUNOZ/Crypt-PasswdMD5-1.2/PasswdMD5.pm) > I also found, > http://search.cpan.org/doc/SSNODGRA/Unix-ConfigFile-0.06/PasswdFile.pm, > which provides access to /etc/password and does everything for you. > > On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Keller, Tim wrote: > > > Does anybody know of or created a script that can change a users password > > without human intervention? > > > > or on a side note, does anybody know how to in perl hash a textual password > > into a MD5 hash that would be suitable to be inserted into a shadow file. > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > | Chuck Haines | AOL: CyberGrex | > | GDC Webmaster | ICQ: 3707881 | > | WPILA Lab Manager | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | > | http://gdc.wpi.edu | MSN: CyberGrex | > ---------------------------------------------- > "Geek by nature, Linux by choice." > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

June 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Automatically setting passwords...

by Chuck Haines

Interesting enough after I sent the last email. I did some research (yes it was quick research) and came up with a couple things that might iterest you. There is a package called MD%-crypt which should suit your purpose (http://search.cpan.org/doc/LUISMUNOZ/Crypt-PasswdMD5-1.2/PasswdMD5.pm) I also found, http://search.cpan.org/doc/SSNODGRA/Unix-ConfigFile-0.06/PasswdFile.pm, which provides access to /etc/password and does everything for you. On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Keller, Tim wrote: > Does anybody know of or created a script that can change a users password > without human intervention? > > or on a side note, does anybody know how to in perl hash a textual password > into a MD5 hash that would be suitable to be inserted into a shadow file. > > Thanks, > Tim. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > ---------------------------------------------- | Chuck Haines | AOL: CyberGrex | | GDC Webmaster | ICQ: 3707881 | | WPILA Lab Manager | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | | http://gdc.wpi.edu | MSN: CyberGrex | ---------------------------------------------- "Geek by nature, Linux by choice."

June 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Automatically setting passwords...

by Chuck Haines

I would suggest going to www.cpan.org and getting the md5 package for perl. Or even better, I'm sure someone has wanted to do this same thing or something similar and might have even written all or most of the script. CPAN is the place to look. On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Keller, Tim wrote: > Does anybody know of or created a script that can change a users password > without human intervention? > > or on a side note, does anybody know how to in perl hash a textual password > into a MD5 hash that would be suitable to be inserted into a shadow file. > > Thanks, > Tim. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > ---------------------------------------------- | Chuck Haines | AOL: CyberGrex | | GDC Webmaster | ICQ: 3707881 | | WPILA Lab Manager | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | | http://gdc.wpi.edu | MSN: CyberGrex | ---------------------------------------------- "Geek by nature, Linux by choice."

June 11, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Automatically setting passwords...

by Karl Hiramoto

you could look at the source code to the passwd utility or the apache htpasswd program. Don't you love open source :) or use an "expect" script and use the standard passwd utility. try "man expect" On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Keller, Tim wrote: > Well I came up with a kludgy solution... > > ... { perl snippet ... > > open($passwd,"| passwd --stdin useraccount") or die ("Unable to execute > passwd...\n"); > print $passwd $new_password_variable; > close $passwd; > > ... } perl snippet ... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:41 AM > To: 'wlug(a)wlug.org' > Subject: [Wlug] Automatically setting passwords... > > > Does anybody know of or created a script that can change a users password > without human intervention? > > or on a side note, does anybody know how to in perl hash a textual password > into a MD5 hash that would be suitable to be inserted into a shadow file. > > Thanks, > Tim. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø P-K4

June 11, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Automatically setting passwords...

by Keller, Tim

Well I came up with a kludgy solution... ... { perl snippet ... open($passwd,"| passwd --stdin useraccount") or die ("Unable to execute passwd...\n"); print $passwd $new_password_variable; close $passwd; ... } perl snippet ... -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:41 AM To: 'wlug(a)wlug.org' Subject: [Wlug] Automatically setting passwords... Does anybody know of or created a script that can change a users password without human intervention? or on a side note, does anybody know how to in perl hash a textual password into a MD5 hash that would be suitable to be inserted into a shadow file. Thanks, Tim. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Automatically setting passwords...

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Keller, Tim wrote: <snip> > or on a side note, does anybody know how to in perl hash a textual password > into a MD5 hash that would be suitable to be inserted into a shadow file. > > Thanks, > Tim. <snip> I'd like to know how Apache does their MD5 passwords, too. Bill

June 11, 2002

Automatically setting passwords...

by Keller, Tim

Does anybody know of or created a script that can change a users password without human intervention? or on a side note, does anybody know how to in perl hash a textual password into a MD5 hash that would be suitable to be inserted into a shadow file. Thanks, Tim.

June 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] SuSE for Mac?

by Andy Stewart

On Tuesday 11 June 2002 12:53 am, avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com wrote: > My neighbor is looking for a copy of SuSE 7.2 for Mac. Does anyone have > a copy? If not, have you got the URL to download it? Thanks. > > Greg Hi Greg, There is a SuSE Linux for PPC. Go to www.suse.com and follow the "download SuSE" links. One place you'll end up is: ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/SuSE-Linux/ppc There is a version 7.3 for power PC shown on the website available for purchase, but the FTP link seems only to have versions 7.0 and 7.1. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 11, 2002

SuSE for Mac?

by avedis＠ma.ultranet.com

My neighbor is looking for a copy of SuSE 7.2 for Mac. Does anyone have a copy? If not, have you got the URL to download it? Thanks. Greg

June 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] meeting topic brainstorm

by Charles R. Anderson

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 10:27:26PM -0400, Karl Hiramoto wrote: karl> Anyone done much with LDAP servers? Authentication? Network karl> security? iptables? I'd personally love to see a talk on LDAPv3 w/KerberosV done on Linux. Bonus points if someone has gotten this to interoperate with Active Directory (which is basically just that). Here's the HOWTO: http://www.bayour.com/LDAPv3-HOWTO.html -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

June 11, 2002

meeting topic brainstorm

by Karl Hiramoto

As Andy suggested, Anyone have ideas? Like to see something presented? Anyone done much with LDAP servers? Authentication? Network security? iptables? One thing i would like to know. I currently have an iptables FW setup with logging of all rejected packets. Something similar to LogWatch that summarizes the rejected packets would be nice. Tell me who is port scanning me and stuff like that(Statistics gathering). -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø internet is needed to catch the etherbunny

June 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] ncurses - Joe Riopel

by Chuck Homic

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 09:23:55PM -0400, Joe Riopel wrote: > Hello, I am just starting out programming with ncurses. I was just wondering > if anyone knew of some good books, or and good links as I start. You could always try "Writing Programs with NCURSES": http://www.google.com/search?q=writing+programs+with+ncurses -Chuck

June 11, 2002

ncurses - Joe Riopel

by Joe Riopel

Hello, I am just starting out programming with ncurses. I was just wondering if anyone knew of some good books, or and good links as I start. Thanks, Joe

June 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] DDS3 tape drive?

by Charles R. Anderson

I have a DDS-3 drive and would be happy to copy the data off for you. Do you know what format the data is in (tar, cpio, Veritas, etc.)? On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 01:28:56PM -0400, Michelle Vadeboncoeur wrote: mrv> The tape is a DDS-3 Data Cartridge (Compressed Capacity 24 GB), an HP mrv> C5708A. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

June 10, 2002

DDS3 tape drive?

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

Hey guys - I've got an old backup tape from 1999 that I'd like to get the data off of. My big problem - I don't have the old system/tape drive around anymore, or personally have anything that can handle the tape. (The DDS2 tape drive I tried just spit the tape back out at me.) The tape is a DDS-3 Data Cartridge (Compressed Capacity 24 GB), an HP C5708A. I do not know how much data is on the tape (or if it's been corrupted), but I doubt that it's anywhere near the 24GB. All I really need is a data dump (to either a CD-R or such that I can FTP off to my server), and I'll poke through it later. I really can't spare the $680 (the cheapest data recovery quote I've gotten) for a possibly corrupted tape... any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated. 8) -- --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/

June 10, 2002

Re: [Wlug] ncurses - Joe Riopel

by Joe Riopel

yep worked out great... Thanks.

June 10, 2002

REMINDER: Meeting Thursday, June 13th, 7 PM

by Andy Stewart

Hi Everybody, This e-mail is to remind you about the upcoming WLUG meeting which is being held on Thursday, June 13th at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI Campus in Worcester, MA, USA. With the arrival of my new daughter two weeks ago (May 24), it has been very busy at my house. Combined with some unrestful evenings, I have not had any time to prepare a presentation for this meeting. The floor is open for anybody who has a reasonable presentation to make to the group. Please contact me to make arrangements. As you've seen in the past, the presentation need not be extremely fancy. Feedback I've received from group members indicates that these presentations are well received, and are certainly better alternatives to sitting around for an hour trying to figure out what to discuss. :-) Recent Linux developments that might be fodder for discussion are KDE 3.0.x, United Linux, aptget-rpm, Mozilla 1.0, OpenOffice.org 1.0, and probably many other things. At this meeting, we can also attempt to finalize our plans for a WLUG summer barbecue. It might be a good idea to combine this with a 5th year anniversary celebration, as WLUG was originally founded in July of 1997. After the meeting, we will make our monthly pilgrimage to the Boynton Restaurant. -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] less & line numbers

by Dennis Payne

> This is weird... I can't get "less" to display line numbers in the > left column. > > I'm seeing this on both RedHat 7.1 and 7.2 systems. On an older > system (6.0?), less shows the line numbers. (I could have sworn that > this was working right recently, but it doesn't now.) I happen to have 7.1 and 6.1 systems lying around. I see the same result. 6.1 does display the numbers while 7.1 just adds a few blank spaces to the beginning of the line. Don't know how to fix it but I'd thought I'd let you know that it is restricted to your machines. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

June 8, 2002

less & line numbers

by Bill Mills-Curran

This is weird... I can't get "less" to display line numbers in the left column. All that happens is that the text of the file I'm viewing shifts to the right, adding 2 blank columns. It looks like the shift amount is too small to display the numbers, so I don't get to see them. I'm seeing this on both RedHat 7.1 and 7.2 systems. On an older system (6.0?), less shows the line numbers. (I could have sworn that this was working right recently, but it doesn't now.) I'm using the "--LINE-NUMBERS" option to try to see the lines on the newer versions, and the "-N" option on the older versions. Any ideas? TIA, Bill

June 7, 2002

WMA --> MP3 conversion?

by Bill Smith

Hi all, I have a bunch of files that are in asf format. I understand that this is basically WMA (Windows Media Audio). Makes sense, since they are recordings of church services. :) Anyway, I want to convert them to MP3 so that I can hear them without having to stoop to loading certain Left Coast poor-excuse-for-operating-systems... Would anyone happen to know of a good/reasonable WMA-->MP3 converter for Linux? Best regards, -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com Linux: the choice of a GNU Generation! * TAG! v3.0 *

June 7, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Wireless nics and linux.

by Josh Huber

Jeremy <mcotis(a)yahoo.com> writes: > Anyone else using lucent cards? if you can afford i would recommend > 'em. Yes, I'm using 3 of them. Two in powerpc laptops running Linux and one in an intel laptop running Linux. The Lucent (orinoco) cards work very well in my experience, especially with recent kernels/drivers etc. This place has them for $67, which is pretty good (considering I got my first one a couple years back for $160!): http://www.lanstreet.com/productpage.cfm?prodid=488 ttyl, -- Josh Huber

June 5, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Wireless nics and linux.

by Lee Keyser-Allen

Well as the current maintainer of the Linux driver for the Spectrum24 cards and variants, I could recommend those (although I maybe biased). Most people are able to get them up and working without too many problems. I do realize that the driver does need some work as far as a couple random problems (mainly with pumpd, dhcpcd works fine), but the orinoco driver also supports these cards, so youdo have choices :) The cards that I know that are either based on the prism2 chipset, or are rebranded Symbol cards include the Intel 2011 (but not the 2011B ... wierd) the nortel card, and the Symbol card .. .I think there are a bunch more, but I cant think of them off of the top of my head. Good luck! Lee On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Jeremy wrote: > I had a orinoco card working under linux a while ago.. > It seemed to work well at my wireless net in worcester. > It varies from card to card: > DLINK has linux drivers, > lucent has unoffical ports (orinoco cards), > 3Com used to have one, but it was a rebrand of another card (symbol S24) > > Anyone else using lucent cards? if you can afford i would recommend 'em. > I bought a 3Com card orginally and thought it would be good, but had quality > issues. So I got the Lucent card and am much happier. DLINK is surprising > good, but not sure about the linux support. > > --- Wesley Allen <wallen(a)charter.net> wrote: > > Hi All, > > I may be FINALLY getting some wireless access in my house (It's amazing > > what a simple furniture move can accomplish). So I'm wondering, what > > wireless nics work in Linux. I've heard that there are some problems, > > do any of you have 802.11b networks at home (what's the mac address > > range.....wink)? If so, what nics are you using. Do the USB one's work > > (actually, I'll check this one out on my own, it's the pcmcia cards I > > need the info on). > > > > Thanks, > > Wes > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > ===== > - > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Lee Keyser-Allen lkeyser(a)wpi.edu WPI CS 2002

June 5, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Multiple mice on a laptop

by Wesley Allen

Mandrake's got kudzu, so if I plug in another mouse it'll detect it during boot and ask to set it up. It's an absolute pain, but it works. And init script should be able to probe for a mouse and load the correct XF86config, but it's beyond me. Did you try a #linux irc channel? They usually know what's going on with that stuff. Wes On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 10:39:07 -0400 (EDT) Nate Godin <nate(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: >Hmm... I did this a while back, setting up a serial >trackball in addition >to my PS2 mouse on my desktop... you have to load a the >XInput module, and >do some XF86Config tweaking... I don't have the config >file I used >anymore, but I recall figuring out how to do it by >reading the XF86Config >man page... here's an example... > > Here is an example of a ServerLayout section for > a dual > headed configuration with two mice: > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "Layout 1" > Screen "MGA 1" > Screen "MGA 2" RightOf "MGA 1" > InputDevice "Keyboard 1" "CoreKeyboard" > InputDevice "Mouse 1" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Mouse 2" "SendCoreEvents" > Option "BlankTime" "5" > EndSection > >My G4 Powerbook actually seems to be able to do this >automatically, I'll >go boot that over to Linux and post the XF86Config >file... > >Nate >-- > >Experience is not what happens to you; it is what you do >with what happens >to you. > -- Aldous Huxley > > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] monitoring a Matrix 3000

by Karl Hiramoto

Ok. Obvously the serial port is working fine if you can login to it. I'd try the UPS software agin. If it still doesn work. Maybee try the windows software out. That would at least verify that your cable is wired correctly to the UPS.. John Stoffel earlier mentioned using the apcupsd. I'd give that a shot too. I use that to monitor some APC smart UPS's On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Karl, > > I've done the testing you suggested... I hooked up a null modem cable > to another linux box that was configured to allow serial port logins. > After using minicom to configure the port (9600 bps), I was able to > log in. I could also exit minicom and, using 2 terminal windows: > > term 1: cat > /dev/ttyS0 > term 2: cat /dev/ttys0 > > I was able to get the login and password prompts with the above, so I > have some indication that the serial port is working, although I don't > know if it's right for the UPS. > > My next test is to scrounge a signal analyzer (and someone who knows > how to use it) to see if the upsd daemon is sending signals out the > port. > > more below... > > On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:16:23 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] monitoring a Matrix 3000 > > > > Bill, > > > > I've had problems with serial ports in the past. Usually a really > > dumb reasion for it not working. Verify the BIOS has the port turned > > on. With the default IO address and IRQ settings. > > Since I'm getting communications going, I don't think I need to dig > deeper in the serial port (BIOS, IRQ, IO address). Do you agree? > > > > > Does a mouse work on the port? > > Didn't try. Do I still need this? > > > > > If you have a null modem cable. (Switches RX and TX lines) you can > > hook two computers together. Run terminal programs on each (with the > > same baud rate settings, no flow control). You should be able to type > > chars between the two boxes. Have minicom installed? can it open the > > port without an error? If you don't have a null modem > > cable/connector you can pick them up at most radio shacks. Or you > > could try communicating with an external modem. > > This worked. > > > > > Running a redhat default kernel? Should work fine. If you compiled > > your own make sure you have the serial port setup correctly in your > > kernel config. > > I'm running the kernel from the 7.2 distro. > > > > > Try chmod 666 /dev/ttyS0 > > Yes, I did this. > > > > > Serial HOWTO: > > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO.html > > I looked at some of this. Thanks. > > > > > Serial Laplink howto: > > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Serial-Laplink-HOWTO/index.html > > > > Have a DOS bootdisk? You could try running an old skool terminal > > program like procomm or something like that. Or hypertermainal in M$ > > Windowz. > > Oooohhh. DOS to help debug linux? Yeouch. :-) > > Thanks, > Bill > <snip> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø The worst part of valor is indiscretion.

June 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] monitoring a Matrix 3000

by Bill Mills-Curran

Karl, I've done the testing you suggested... I hooked up a null modem cable to another linux box that was configured to allow serial port logins. After using minicom to configure the port (9600 bps), I was able to log in. I could also exit minicom and, using 2 terminal windows: term 1: cat > /dev/ttyS0 term 2: cat /dev/ttys0 I was able to get the login and password prompts with the above, so I have some indication that the serial port is working, although I don't know if it's right for the UPS. My next test is to scrounge a signal analyzer (and someone who knows how to use it) to see if the upsd daemon is sending signals out the port. more below... On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:16:23 -0400 (EDT) > From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] monitoring a Matrix 3000 > > Bill, > > I've had problems with serial ports in the past. Usually a really > dumb reasion for it not working. Verify the BIOS has the port turned > on. With the default IO address and IRQ settings. Since I'm getting communications going, I don't think I need to dig deeper in the serial port (BIOS, IRQ, IO address). Do you agree? > > Does a mouse work on the port? Didn't try. Do I still need this? > > If you have a null modem cable. (Switches RX and TX lines) you can > hook two computers together. Run terminal programs on each (with the > same baud rate settings, no flow control). You should be able to type > chars between the two boxes. Have minicom installed? can it open the > port without an error? If you don't have a null modem > cable/connector you can pick them up at most radio shacks. Or you > could try communicating with an external modem. This worked. > > Running a redhat default kernel? Should work fine. If you compiled > your own make sure you have the serial port setup correctly in your > kernel config. I'm running the kernel from the 7.2 distro. > > Try chmod 666 /dev/ttyS0 Yes, I did this. > > Serial HOWTO: > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO.html I looked at some of this. Thanks. > > Serial Laplink howto: > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Serial-Laplink-HOWTO/index.html > > Have a DOS bootdisk? You could try running an old skool terminal > program like procomm or something like that. Or hypertermainal in M$ > Windowz. Oooohhh. DOS to help debug linux? Yeouch. :-) Thanks, Bill <snip>

June 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] monitoring a Matrix 3000

by Karl Hiramoto

Bill, I've had problems with serial ports in the past. Usually a really dumb reasion for it not working. Verify the BIOS has the port turned on. With the default IO address and IRQ settings. Does a mouse work on the port? If you have a null modem cable. (Switches RX and TX lines) you can hook two computers together. Run terminal programs on each (with the same baud rate settings, no flow control). You should be able to type chars between the two boxes. Have minicom installed? can it open the port without an error? If you don't have a null modem cable/connector you can pick them up at most radio shacks. Or you could try communicating with an external modem. Running a redhat default kernel? Should work fine. If you compiled your own make sure you have the serial port setup correctly in your kernel config. Try chmod 666 /dev/ttyS0 Serial HOWTO: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO.html Serial Laplink howto: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Serial-Laplink-HOWTO/index.html Have a DOS bootdisk? You could try running an old skool terminal program like procomm or something like that. Or hypertermainal in M$ Windowz. Good luck. On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Karl, > > I agree that the serial port is the prime suspect. (I'm working the > serial port test you suggested) Can you give any hints as to what > might need to be configured? Note that this is a new installation, > and I've done nothing to set up the port. > > Any suggestions what configuration changes or module loads I might > need to enable traffic on ttyS0 and ttyS1? > > Thanks, > Bill > > On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 15:53:02 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] monitoring a Matrix 3000 > > > > > > Eliminate the basic stuff. Is the Serial port working? Hookup a > > null modem to another box and verify that. > > > > > > On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > > > > I sent the message below to the UPS mailing list, but it's a pretty > > > slow list, so I thought I'd see if anyone on WLUG might have an idea. > > > I'm beginning to suspect a serial line configuration issue. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Bill Mills-Curran > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 08:29:56 -0400 (EDT) > > > To: Ups mailing list <ups(a)lists.exploits.org> > > > Subject: monitoring a Matrix 3000 > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've installed the nut rpm's from the RedHat 7.2 distribution: > > > > > > nut-cgi-0.45.0-3 > > > nut-0.45.0-3 > > > nut-client-0.45.0-3 > > > > > > I am attempting to monitor the state of 2 APC Matrix UPS's; a model > > > 3000 and a model 5000. > > > > > > I have two different sets of cables to work with; 940-0020B and > > > 940-0024C. > > > > > > In short, I can't get any indication of communication between my linux > > > box and the UPS. I've looked through the FAQ's and other > > > documentation pretty carefully, but I must be missing something. Any > > > direction anyone can give would be appreciated. > > > > > > Documentation for these UPS's can be found at: > > > > > > http://sturgeon.apcc.com/techref.nsf/docID/3BF5FC2524F090888525675200631528… > > > > > > There's a description of the pinouts on p. 39. > > > > > > **************** > > > Basic setup: > > > > > > I have a couple of racks of inter-dependent equipment powered from 2 > > > UPS's. The interdependence forces me to shut down all machines before > > > either UPS fails. > > > > > > I plan to use a single linux box to monitor the state of the UPS's and > > > to send shutdown signals (via small private network) to the servers > > > when the battery gets low. > > > > > > The linux box is old hardware, but the linux software installation is > > > new. > > > > > > In an effort to simplify the problem, I've dropped back to monitoring > > > a single UPS. > > > > > > Below are the config files and results for using the two different > > > cable types. For both config's, I set the permissions on /dev/ttyS0 > > > to 666. > > > > > > **************** > > > Using the 940-0020B cables. > > > > > > Config files (without the comments): > > > > > > **** > > > # /etc/sysconfig/ups > > > SERVER=yes > > > MODEL=genericups > > > DEVICE=/dev/ttyS0 > > > OPTIONS="-t 2" > > > **** > > > # /etc/ups/upsd.conf > > > > > > UPS tls01 /usr/bin/genericups-ttyS0 -t 2 /dev/ttyS0 > > > ACL all 0.0.0.0/0 > > > ACL localhost 127.0.0.1/32 > > > ACCESS grant monitor localhost password > > > ACCESS deny all all > > > **** > > > # /etc/ups/upsmon.conf > > > > > > MONITOR tls01@localhost 1 password slave > > > MINSUPPLIES 1 > > > SHUTDOWNCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl shutdown" > > > NOTIFYCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl notify" > > > POLLFREQ 5 > > > POLLFREQALERT 5 > > > HOSTSYNC 15 > > > DEADTIME 15 > > > POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower > > > RBWARNTIME 43200 > > > NOCOMMWARNTIME 300 > > > ******* > > > Results: > > > > > > 1. The services (genericups, upsd, upsmonitor) started ok. I do get > > > the message: UPS tls01@localhost is unavailable > > > > > > 2. upsc tls01@localhost gives the following: > > > > > > host: tls01@localhost > > > No variables available! Check your upsd.conf entry for this UPS > > > > > > **************** > > > Using the 940-0024C cables. > > > > > > Config files (without the comments): > > > > > > **** > > > # /etc/sysconfig/ups > > > SERVER=yes > > > MODEL=apcsmart > > > DEVICE=/dev/ttyS0 > > > OPTIONS= > > > **** > > > # /etc/ups/upsd.conf > > > > > > UPS tls01 /usr/bin/apcsmart-ttyS0 /dev/ttyS0 > > > ACL all 0.0.0.0/0 > > > ACL localhost 127.0.0.1/32 > > > ACCESS grant monitor localhost password > > > ACCESS deny all all > > > **** > > > # /etc/ups/upsmon.conf > > > > > > MONITOR tls01@localhost 1 password slave > > > MINSUPPLIES 1 > > > SHUTDOWNCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl shutdown" > > > NOTIFYCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl notify" > > > POLLFREQ 5 > > > POLLFREQALERT 5 > > > HOSTSYNC 15 > > > DEADTIME 15 > > > POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower > > > RBWARNTIME 43200 > > > NOCOMMWARNTIME 300 > > > ******* > > > Results: > > > > > > 1. The services (apcsmart, upsd, upsmonitor) started ok. I do get > > > the message: UPS tls01@localhost is unavailable > > > > > > 2. upsc tls01@localhost gives the following: > > > > > > host: tls01@localhost > > > No variables available! Check your upsd.conf entry for this UPS > > > > > > **************** > > > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > > > TIA, > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > -- > > > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > > Cell: 508-517-4819 > > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > > > Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø If life is a stage, I want some better lighting.

June 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Quick tape question...

by Adam ＠ Oak

Simple question (to eliminate the obvious): Is this happening with the norewind tape device? Is it possible you are accidently using the rewind device? -Adam On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Keller, Tim wrote: > I've got an HP tape drive model C1537A that has the annoying trait of > rewinding itself automatically. > > Does anybody have any suggestions on ways to prevent this behavior? > > mt doesn't seem to have an option to turn this feature off. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > Not so randomly generated tagline: > "Meanwhile behind the facade of this innocent looking bookstore..." > - Some freaky dude who designed the sets for peewee's playhouse > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > "lingua machinationis creo, ergo sum" _____________________________________________ Adam Keck The Mathworks 508-647-7298 Natick, Ma www.mathworks.com FreeNIX/Backup/Unix Administrator _____________________________________________

June 4, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Quick tape question...

by Keller, Tim

Actually I just figured it out... if your tape device is /dev/st0 the non rewinding version is /dev/nst0 Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:56 AM To: 'wlug(a)wlug.org' Subject: [Wlug] Quick tape question... I've got an HP tape drive model C1537A that has the annoying trait of rewinding itself automatically. Does anybody have any suggestions on ways to prevent this behavior? mt doesn't seem to have an option to turn this feature off. Thanks, Tim. Not so randomly generated tagline: "Meanwhile behind the facade of this innocent looking bookstore..." - Some freaky dude who designed the sets for peewee's playhouse _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 4, 2002

Quick tape question...

by Keller, Tim

I've got an HP tape drive model C1537A that has the annoying trait of rewinding itself automatically. Does anybody have any suggestions on ways to prevent this behavior? mt doesn't seem to have an option to turn this feature off. Thanks, Tim. Not so randomly generated tagline: "Meanwhile behind the facade of this innocent looking bookstore..." - Some freaky dude who designed the sets for peewee's playhouse

June 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Multiple mice on a laptop

by Nate Godin

Hmm... I did this a while back, setting up a serial trackball in addition to my PS2 mouse on my desktop... you have to load a the XInput module, and do some XF86Config tweaking... I don't have the config file I used anymore, but I recall figuring out how to do it by reading the XF86Config man page... here's an example... Here is an example of a ServerLayout section for a dual headed configuration with two mice: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout 1" Screen "MGA 1" Screen "MGA 2" RightOf "MGA 1" InputDevice "Keyboard 1" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse 1" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Mouse 2" "SendCoreEvents" Option "BlankTime" "5" EndSection My G4 Powerbook actually seems to be able to do this automatically, I'll go boot that over to Linux and post the XF86Config file... Nate -- Experience is not what happens to you; it is what you do with what happens to you. -- Aldous Huxley

June 4, 2002

Multiple mice on a laptop

by Adam Elliott

Hello, I've got a laptop that usually resides in a docking station at work, where it is connected to an ordinary wheelmouse. That works fine. When I take the laptop out of the docking station, disconnect the mouse, and start up Linux again (so using the touchpad), the pointer tends to go crazy. Now, I know the reason for this is the protocol is wrong in the XF86Config file. The wheelmouse uses IMPS/2 with 5 buttons (3+wheel), the touchpad PS/2 with 2 buttons. I can fix this by editing the XF86Config file appropriately, and the touchpad works fine. Now, my question is: Is there any way to get Linux to automatically figure out that the mouse is not attached, and so fall back on the touchpad? BTW, I've set up two "Pointer" sections in XF86Config, and just adjust the CorePointer line to reference the correct one. XFree doesn't like having two CorePointers. I'm using SuSE 7.3, XFree86 4.x if it matters. Thanks, -Adam

June 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] monitoring a Matrix 3000

by Bill Mills-Curran

Karl, I agree that the serial port is the prime suspect. (I'm working the serial port test you suggested) Can you give any hints as to what might need to be configured? Note that this is a new installation, and I've done nothing to set up the port. Any suggestions what configuration changes or module loads I might need to enable traffic on ttyS0 and ttyS1? Thanks, Bill On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 15:53:02 -0400 (EDT) > From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] monitoring a Matrix 3000 > > > Eliminate the basic stuff. Is the Serial port working? Hookup a > null modem to another box and verify that. > > > On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > > I sent the message below to the UPS mailing list, but it's a pretty > > slow list, so I thought I'd see if anyone on WLUG might have an idea. > > I'm beginning to suspect a serial line configuration issue. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > Bill Mills-Curran > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 08:29:56 -0400 (EDT) > > To: Ups mailing list <ups(a)lists.exploits.org> > > Subject: monitoring a Matrix 3000 > > > > Hi, > > > > I've installed the nut rpm's from the RedHat 7.2 distribution: > > > > nut-cgi-0.45.0-3 > > nut-0.45.0-3 > > nut-client-0.45.0-3 > > > > I am attempting to monitor the state of 2 APC Matrix UPS's; a model > > 3000 and a model 5000. > > > > I have two different sets of cables to work with; 940-0020B and > > 940-0024C. > > > > In short, I can't get any indication of communication between my linux > > box and the UPS. I've looked through the FAQ's and other > > documentation pretty carefully, but I must be missing something. Any > > direction anyone can give would be appreciated. > > > > Documentation for these UPS's can be found at: > > > > http://sturgeon.apcc.com/techref.nsf/docID/3BF5FC2524F090888525675200631528… > > > > There's a description of the pinouts on p. 39. > > > > **************** > > Basic setup: > > > > I have a couple of racks of inter-dependent equipment powered from 2 > > UPS's. The interdependence forces me to shut down all machines before > > either UPS fails. > > > > I plan to use a single linux box to monitor the state of the UPS's and > > to send shutdown signals (via small private network) to the servers > > when the battery gets low. > > > > The linux box is old hardware, but the linux software installation is > > new. > > > > In an effort to simplify the problem, I've dropped back to monitoring > > a single UPS. > > > > Below are the config files and results for using the two different > > cable types. For both config's, I set the permissions on /dev/ttyS0 > > to 666. > > > > **************** > > Using the 940-0020B cables. > > > > Config files (without the comments): > > > > **** > > # /etc/sysconfig/ups > > SERVER=yes > > MODEL=genericups > > DEVICE=/dev/ttyS0 > > OPTIONS="-t 2" > > **** > > # /etc/ups/upsd.conf > > > > UPS tls01 /usr/bin/genericups-ttyS0 -t 2 /dev/ttyS0 > > ACL all 0.0.0.0/0 > > ACL localhost 127.0.0.1/32 > > ACCESS grant monitor localhost password > > ACCESS deny all all > > **** > > # /etc/ups/upsmon.conf > > > > MONITOR tls01@localhost 1 password slave > > MINSUPPLIES 1 > > SHUTDOWNCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl shutdown" > > NOTIFYCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl notify" > > POLLFREQ 5 > > POLLFREQALERT 5 > > HOSTSYNC 15 > > DEADTIME 15 > > POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower > > RBWARNTIME 43200 > > NOCOMMWARNTIME 300 > > ******* > > Results: > > > > 1. The services (genericups, upsd, upsmonitor) started ok. I do get > > the message: UPS tls01@localhost is unavailable > > > > 2. upsc tls01@localhost gives the following: > > > > host: tls01@localhost > > No variables available! Check your upsd.conf entry for this UPS > > > > **************** > > Using the 940-0024C cables. > > > > Config files (without the comments): > > > > **** > > # /etc/sysconfig/ups > > SERVER=yes > > MODEL=apcsmart > > DEVICE=/dev/ttyS0 > > OPTIONS= > > **** > > # /etc/ups/upsd.conf > > > > UPS tls01 /usr/bin/apcsmart-ttyS0 /dev/ttyS0 > > ACL all 0.0.0.0/0 > > ACL localhost 127.0.0.1/32 > > ACCESS grant monitor localhost password > > ACCESS deny all all > > **** > > # /etc/ups/upsmon.conf > > > > MONITOR tls01@localhost 1 password slave > > MINSUPPLIES 1 > > SHUTDOWNCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl shutdown" > > NOTIFYCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl notify" > > POLLFREQ 5 > > POLLFREQALERT 5 > > HOSTSYNC 15 > > DEADTIME 15 > > POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower > > RBWARNTIME 43200 > > NOCOMMWARNTIME 300 > > ******* > > Results: > > > > 1. The services (apcsmart, upsd, upsmonitor) started ok. I do get > > the message: UPS tls01@localhost is unavailable > > > > 2. upsc tls01@localhost gives the following: > > > > host: tls01@localhost > > No variables available! Check your upsd.conf entry for this UPS > > > > **************** > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > TIA, > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > Cell: 508-517-4819 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

June 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] FORSALE: DEC 3000 model 900 (fwd)

by Aaron Haviland

Chuck Homic said: > > Its 100 bucks OBO now... :-) > > Man, I wish I had room for more crap. I'd love to play with another > non-Intel system. I'm pretty sure Linux will run on it, but anyway.... > > Surely someone has noticed this part: > > > RGB video card w/21 inch RGB monitor > > OBO is a good deal for a 21 inch monitor, with or without an Alpha attached! > Someone should buy this. ;) from what I can tell, linux *won't* run on DEC 3000's... but NetBSD will. seems any attempts to port linux to that specific architecture stoped around kernel v2.2.10 and had a lot to do with the TURBOChannel stuff. (i usually go by debian's port listing to find out what architechtures work. http://debian.org/ports/alpha/sys_types) but man... (like i need another piece of crap in my bedroom) i want to try :) -- Aaron Haviland orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org orion [at] parsed [dot] net This sig. intentionally left blank.

June 4, 2002

RE: [Wlug] FORSALE: DEC 3000 model 900 (fwd)

by Chuck Homic

> Its 100 bucks OBO now... :-) Man, I wish I had room for more crap. I'd love to play with another non-Intel system. I'm pretty sure Linux will run on it, but anyway.... Surely someone has noticed this part: > RGB video card w/21 inch RGB monitor OBO is a good deal for a 21 inch monitor, with or without an Alpha attached! Someone should buy this. ;) -Chuck

June 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] dual mother suggestons

by David Goss

http://www.intel.com/products/browse/motherbd.htm?iid=Homepage+Find_Products _Motherboards& I work with the STL2 & SCB2 boards. We manufacture for some drug companies and have thousands of these boards in the field. My experience with them is only as far as installing the O/S of which 90% is Wndoze ( NT 4.). The boards I have installed Linux ( Red Hat 7.0-3 ) have been nice to work with. Intel support is good as well. Not trying to plug them but you do get what you pay for and these boards have proven reliable albeit expensive. Hope that helps. Dave Goss Assimilation is futile. ----- Original Message ----- From: <bryon3245(a)netzero.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:33 PM Subject: [Wlug] dual mother suggestons > Dear WLUG Mailing list readers, > > I would appreciate it if you could help me by suggesting a good quality dual Intel p4 (fastest possible) motherboard. > > Thanks, > Bryon > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 4, 2002

dual mother suggestons

by bryon3245＠netzero.com

Dear WLUG Mailing list readers, I would appreciate it if you could help me by suggesting a good quality dual Intel p4 (fastest possible) motherboard. Thanks, Bryon -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

June 3, 2002

FORSALE: DEC 3000 model 900 (fwd)

by Phillip G Deneault

When I said 'OBO'....I meant it.. :-) Its 100 bucks OBO now... :-) Phil -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Phil Deneault "We work in the dark, We do what we can, deneault(a)wpi.edu We give what we have. Our doubt is our passion, WPI NetOps and our passion is our task. The rest is the OpenVMS Guy maddness of art." - Henry James -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:11:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Phillip G Deneault <deneault(a)wpi.edu> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: FORSALE: DEC 3000 model 900 Full size DEC 3000 model 900 275mhz Alpha 128 megs of RAM 7 internal drive bays 50-pin SCSI, 2 bus chains 1 4 gig hard drive, 1 dual speed caddy CD-ROM built in ethernet RGB video card w/21 inch RGB monitor cables, mice, keyboards, etc Works well, provided as is...$300 obo I run Tru64 on it and I am not sure if Linux will run on it. Any questions e-mail me Phil -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Phil Deneault "We work in the dark, We do what we can, deneault(a)wpi.edu We give what we have. Our doubt is our passion, WPI NetOps and our passion is our task. The rest is the OpenVMS Guy maddness of art." - Henry James -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

June 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Wireless nics and linux.

by Jeremy

I had a orinoco card working under linux a while ago.. It seemed to work well at my wireless net in worcester. It varies from card to card: DLINK has linux drivers, lucent has unoffical ports (orinoco cards), 3Com used to have one, but it was a rebrand of another card (symbol S24) Anyone else using lucent cards? if you can afford i would recommend 'em. I bought a 3Com card orginally and thought it would be good, but had quality issues. So I got the Lucent card and am much happier. DLINK is surprising good, but not sure about the linux support. --- Wesley Allen <wallen(a)charter.net> wrote: > Hi All, > I may be FINALLY getting some wireless access in my house (It's amazing > what a simple furniture move can accomplish). So I'm wondering, what > wireless nics work in Linux. I've heard that there are some problems, > do any of you have 802.11b networks at home (what's the mac address > range.....wink)? If so, what nics are you using. Do the USB one's work > (actually, I'll check this one out on my own, it's the pcmcia cards I > need the info on). > > Thanks, > Wes > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug ===== - __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

June 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] monitoring a Matrix 3000

by stoffel＠lucent.com

Bill> I sent the message below to the UPS mailing list, but it's a pretty Bill> slow list, so I thought I'd see if anyone on WLUG might have an idea. Bill> I'm beginning to suspect a serial line configuration issue. I'm using apcupsd at home with a Matrix SmartUPS and it works just great. Have you tried that package? Also, making sure the cable and serial ports are working first is a good thing too. I may be able to find a cable or two since we've stopped using Matrix 3k/5k here now that we have a generator. Life is trully good now. John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-399-0479

June 3, 2002

Wireless nics and linux.

by Wesley Allen

Hi All, I may be FINALLY getting some wireless access in my house (It's amazing what a simple furniture move can accomplish). So I'm wondering, what wireless nics work in Linux. I've heard that there are some problems, do any of you have 802.11b networks at home (what's the mac address range.....wink)? If so, what nics are you using. Do the USB one's work (actually, I'll check this one out on my own, it's the pcmcia cards I need the info on). Thanks, Wes

June 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] monitoring a Matrix 3000

by Karl Hiramoto

Also, can you use either of those cables you have and make it work with a PC and M$ windows? That would close in on if you have a cable problem. On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I sent the message below to the UPS mailing list, but it's a pretty > slow list, so I thought I'd see if anyone on WLUG might have an idea. > I'm beginning to suspect a serial line configuration issue. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Bill Mills-Curran > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 08:29:56 -0400 (EDT) > To: Ups mailing list <ups(a)lists.exploits.org> > Subject: monitoring a Matrix 3000 > > Hi, > > I've installed the nut rpm's from the RedHat 7.2 distribution: > > nut-cgi-0.45.0-3 > nut-0.45.0-3 > nut-client-0.45.0-3 > > I am attempting to monitor the state of 2 APC Matrix UPS's; a model > 3000 and a model 5000. > > I have two different sets of cables to work with; 940-0020B and > 940-0024C. > > In short, I can't get any indication of communication between my linux > box and the UPS. I've looked through the FAQ's and other > documentation pretty carefully, but I must be missing something. Any > direction anyone can give would be appreciated. > > Documentation for these UPS's can be found at: > > http://sturgeon.apcc.com/techref.nsf/docID/3BF5FC2524F090888525675200631528… > > There's a description of the pinouts on p. 39. > > **************** > Basic setup: > > I have a couple of racks of inter-dependent equipment powered from 2 > UPS's. The interdependence forces me to shut down all machines before > either UPS fails. > > I plan to use a single linux box to monitor the state of the UPS's and > to send shutdown signals (via small private network) to the servers > when the battery gets low. > > The linux box is old hardware, but the linux software installation is > new. > > In an effort to simplify the problem, I've dropped back to monitoring > a single UPS. > > Below are the config files and results for using the two different > cable types. For both config's, I set the permissions on /dev/ttyS0 > to 666. > > **************** > Using the 940-0020B cables. > > Config files (without the comments): > > **** > # /etc/sysconfig/ups > SERVER=yes > MODEL=genericups > DEVICE=/dev/ttyS0 > OPTIONS="-t 2" > **** > # /etc/ups/upsd.conf > > UPS tls01 /usr/bin/genericups-ttyS0 -t 2 /dev/ttyS0 > ACL all 0.0.0.0/0 > ACL localhost 127.0.0.1/32 > ACCESS grant monitor localhost password > ACCESS deny all all > **** > # /etc/ups/upsmon.conf > > MONITOR tls01@localhost 1 password slave > MINSUPPLIES 1 > SHUTDOWNCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl shutdown" > NOTIFYCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl notify" > POLLFREQ 5 > POLLFREQALERT 5 > HOSTSYNC 15 > DEADTIME 15 > POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower > RBWARNTIME 43200 > NOCOMMWARNTIME 300 > ******* > Results: > > 1. The services (genericups, upsd, upsmonitor) started ok. I do get > the message: UPS tls01@localhost is unavailable > > 2. upsc tls01@localhost gives the following: > > host: tls01@localhost > No variables available! Check your upsd.conf entry for this UPS > > **************** > Using the 940-0024C cables. > > Config files (without the comments): > > **** > # /etc/sysconfig/ups > SERVER=yes > MODEL=apcsmart > DEVICE=/dev/ttyS0 > OPTIONS= > **** > # /etc/ups/upsd.conf > > UPS tls01 /usr/bin/apcsmart-ttyS0 /dev/ttyS0 > ACL all 0.0.0.0/0 > ACL localhost 127.0.0.1/32 > ACCESS grant monitor localhost password > ACCESS deny all all > **** > # /etc/ups/upsmon.conf > > MONITOR tls01@localhost 1 password slave > MINSUPPLIES 1 > SHUTDOWNCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl shutdown" > NOTIFYCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl notify" > POLLFREQ 5 > POLLFREQALERT 5 > HOSTSYNC 15 > DEADTIME 15 > POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower > RBWARNTIME 43200 > NOCOMMWARNTIME 300 > ******* > Results: > > 1. The services (apcsmart, upsd, upsmonitor) started ok. I do get > the message: UPS tls01@localhost is unavailable > > 2. upsc tls01@localhost gives the following: > > host: tls01@localhost > No variables available! Check your upsd.conf entry for this UPS > > **************** > > What am I doing wrong? > > TIA, > Bill > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable.

June 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] monitoring a Matrix 3000

by Karl Hiramoto

Eliminate the basic stuff. Is the Serial port working? Hookup a null modem to another box and verify that. On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I sent the message below to the UPS mailing list, but it's a pretty > slow list, so I thought I'd see if anyone on WLUG might have an idea. > I'm beginning to suspect a serial line configuration issue. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Bill Mills-Curran > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 08:29:56 -0400 (EDT) > To: Ups mailing list <ups(a)lists.exploits.org> > Subject: monitoring a Matrix 3000 > > Hi, > > I've installed the nut rpm's from the RedHat 7.2 distribution: > > nut-cgi-0.45.0-3 > nut-0.45.0-3 > nut-client-0.45.0-3 > > I am attempting to monitor the state of 2 APC Matrix UPS's; a model > 3000 and a model 5000. > > I have two different sets of cables to work with; 940-0020B and > 940-0024C. > > In short, I can't get any indication of communication between my linux > box and the UPS. I've looked through the FAQ's and other > documentation pretty carefully, but I must be missing something. Any > direction anyone can give would be appreciated. > > Documentation for these UPS's can be found at: > > http://sturgeon.apcc.com/techref.nsf/docID/3BF5FC2524F090888525675200631528… > > There's a description of the pinouts on p. 39. > > **************** > Basic setup: > > I have a couple of racks of inter-dependent equipment powered from 2 > UPS's. The interdependence forces me to shut down all machines before > either UPS fails. > > I plan to use a single linux box to monitor the state of the UPS's and > to send shutdown signals (via small private network) to the servers > when the battery gets low. > > The linux box is old hardware, but the linux software installation is > new. > > In an effort to simplify the problem, I've dropped back to monitoring > a single UPS. > > Below are the config files and results for using the two different > cable types. For both config's, I set the permissions on /dev/ttyS0 > to 666. > > **************** > Using the 940-0020B cables. > > Config files (without the comments): > > **** > # /etc/sysconfig/ups > SERVER=yes > MODEL=genericups > DEVICE=/dev/ttyS0 > OPTIONS="-t 2" > **** > # /etc/ups/upsd.conf > > UPS tls01 /usr/bin/genericups-ttyS0 -t 2 /dev/ttyS0 > ACL all 0.0.0.0/0 > ACL localhost 127.0.0.1/32 > ACCESS grant monitor localhost password > ACCESS deny all all > **** > # /etc/ups/upsmon.conf > > MONITOR tls01@localhost 1 password slave > MINSUPPLIES 1 > SHUTDOWNCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl shutdown" > NOTIFYCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl notify" > POLLFREQ 5 > POLLFREQALERT 5 > HOSTSYNC 15 > DEADTIME 15 > POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower > RBWARNTIME 43200 > NOCOMMWARNTIME 300 > ******* > Results: > > 1. The services (genericups, upsd, upsmonitor) started ok. I do get > the message: UPS tls01@localhost is unavailable > > 2. upsc tls01@localhost gives the following: > > host: tls01@localhost > No variables available! Check your upsd.conf entry for this UPS > > **************** > Using the 940-0024C cables. > > Config files (without the comments): > > **** > # /etc/sysconfig/ups > SERVER=yes > MODEL=apcsmart > DEVICE=/dev/ttyS0 > OPTIONS= > **** > # /etc/ups/upsd.conf > > UPS tls01 /usr/bin/apcsmart-ttyS0 /dev/ttyS0 > ACL all 0.0.0.0/0 > ACL localhost 127.0.0.1/32 > ACCESS grant monitor localhost password > ACCESS deny all all > **** > # /etc/ups/upsmon.conf > > MONITOR tls01@localhost 1 password slave > MINSUPPLIES 1 > SHUTDOWNCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl shutdown" > NOTIFYCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl notify" > POLLFREQ 5 > POLLFREQALERT 5 > HOSTSYNC 15 > DEADTIME 15 > POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower > RBWARNTIME 43200 > NOCOMMWARNTIME 300 > ******* > Results: > > 1. The services (apcsmart, upsd, upsmonitor) started ok. I do get > the message: UPS tls01@localhost is unavailable > > 2. upsc tls01@localhost gives the following: > > host: tls01@localhost > No variables available! Check your upsd.conf entry for this UPS > > **************** > > What am I doing wrong? > > TIA, > Bill > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable.

June 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] monitoring a Matrix 3000

by Theo Van Dinter

On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 02:32:14PM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I sent the message below to the UPS mailing list, but it's a pretty > slow list, so I thought I'd see if anyone on WLUG might have an idea. > I'm beginning to suspect a serial line configuration issue. > > I have two different sets of cables to work with; 940-0020B and > 940-0024C. Well, in my recollection, the 20B is the grey "dumb" cable, and the 24C is the black "smart" cable. The Matrix is, I believe, essentially just a big SmartUPS. I would try using the 24C cable, then downloading PowerChute from the APC website (www.apcc.com) I'm currently using it on a SM700 and it works pretty well. Never messed around with a MatrixUPS before, so ... YMMV. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: DOS: n., A small annoying boot virus that causes random spontaneous system crashes, usually just before saving a massive project. Easily cured by UNIX. See also MS-DOS, IBM-DOS, DR-DOS. (from David Vicker's .plan)

June 3, 2002

monitoring a Matrix 3000

by Bill Mills-Curran

I sent the message below to the UPS mailing list, but it's a pretty slow list, so I thought I'd see if anyone on WLUG might have an idea. I'm beginning to suspect a serial line configuration issue. Any ideas? Thanks, Bill Mills-Curran ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 08:29:56 -0400 (EDT) To: Ups mailing list <ups(a)lists.exploits.org> Subject: monitoring a Matrix 3000 Hi, I've installed the nut rpm's from the RedHat 7.2 distribution: nut-cgi-0.45.0-3 nut-0.45.0-3 nut-client-0.45.0-3 I am attempting to monitor the state of 2 APC Matrix UPS's; a model 3000 and a model 5000. I have two different sets of cables to work with; 940-0020B and 940-0024C. In short, I can't get any indication of communication between my linux box and the UPS. I've looked through the FAQ's and other documentation pretty carefully, but I must be missing something. Any direction anyone can give would be appreciated. Documentation for these UPS's can be found at: http://sturgeon.apcc.com/techref.nsf/docID/3BF5FC2524F090888525675200631528… There's a description of the pinouts on p. 39. **************** Basic setup: I have a couple of racks of inter-dependent equipment powered from 2 UPS's. The interdependence forces me to shut down all machines before either UPS fails. I plan to use a single linux box to monitor the state of the UPS's and to send shutdown signals (via small private network) to the servers when the battery gets low. The linux box is old hardware, but the linux software installation is new. In an effort to simplify the problem, I've dropped back to monitoring a single UPS. Below are the config files and results for using the two different cable types. For both config's, I set the permissions on /dev/ttyS0 to 666. **************** Using the 940-0020B cables. Config files (without the comments): **** # /etc/sysconfig/ups SERVER=yes MODEL=genericups DEVICE=/dev/ttyS0 OPTIONS="-t 2" **** # /etc/ups/upsd.conf UPS tls01 /usr/bin/genericups-ttyS0 -t 2 /dev/ttyS0 ACL all 0.0.0.0/0 ACL localhost 127.0.0.1/32 ACCESS grant monitor localhost password ACCESS deny all all **** # /etc/ups/upsmon.conf MONITOR tls01@localhost 1 password slave MINSUPPLIES 1 SHUTDOWNCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl shutdown" NOTIFYCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl notify" POLLFREQ 5 POLLFREQALERT 5 HOSTSYNC 15 DEADTIME 15 POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower RBWARNTIME 43200 NOCOMMWARNTIME 300 ******* Results: 1. The services (genericups, upsd, upsmonitor) started ok. I do get the message: UPS tls01@localhost is unavailable 2. upsc tls01@localhost gives the following: host: tls01@localhost No variables available! Check your upsd.conf entry for this UPS **************** Using the 940-0024C cables. Config files (without the comments): **** # /etc/sysconfig/ups SERVER=yes MODEL=apcsmart DEVICE=/dev/ttyS0 OPTIONS= **** # /etc/ups/upsd.conf UPS tls01 /usr/bin/apcsmart-ttyS0 /dev/ttyS0 ACL all 0.0.0.0/0 ACL localhost 127.0.0.1/32 ACCESS grant monitor localhost password ACCESS deny all all **** # /etc/ups/upsmon.conf MONITOR tls01@localhost 1 password slave MINSUPPLIES 1 SHUTDOWNCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl shutdown" NOTIFYCMD "/root/bin/ups.pl notify" POLLFREQ 5 POLLFREQALERT 5 HOSTSYNC 15 DEADTIME 15 POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower RBWARNTIME 43200 NOCOMMWARNTIME 300 ******* Results: 1. The services (apcsmart, upsd, upsmonitor) started ok. I do get the message: UPS tls01@localhost is unavailable 2. upsc tls01@localhost gives the following: host: tls01@localhost No variables available! Check your upsd.conf entry for this UPS **************** What am I doing wrong? TIA, Bill

June 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] strange filenames

by Michael Frysinger

or just do what i do, rm ./--file_name -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Vadeboncoeur" <mrv(a)kluge.net> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 11:55 Subject: Re: [Wlug] strange filenames > On Sat, 25 May 2002, Joe Riopel wrote: > > JR> If you want you can also open up midnight commander, just delete it > JR> that way. I had the same problem with a file named '-s' > > for files that start with a "-" character, to remove them you include a > "--" before the file name. > > for your example: rm -- -s > > I had to move and delete a bunch of files that were named with a "-" at > the beginning... Lots of graphics for a report for one of my math > classes... > > -- > --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- > mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 31, 2002

RE: [Wlug] weird ethernet problem...

by Keller, Tim

Well I'm running rh7.3 and I've got another box with this same card running 7.3 as well on the same network without a problem?? Weirdness. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Anderson [mailto:cra@WPI.EDU] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:55 AM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: Re: [Wlug] weird ethernet problem... On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:48:21AM -0400, Keller, Tim wrote: Tim.Keller> http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2002-February/001688.html Tim.Keller> I also looked at the next message and I'm already running the eepro100 Tim.Keller> driver. Ahh. So it looks like it was a crappy card/driver problem after all. I did see somewhere else that you might want to download the driver from Intel and try that instead...of course I think that was the e100 they were referring to in that message :-/ -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] weird ethernet problem...

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:48:21AM -0400, Keller, Tim wrote: Tim.Keller> http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2002-February/001688.html Tim.Keller> I also looked at the next message and I'm already running the eepro100 Tim.Keller> driver. Ahh. So it looks like it was a crappy card/driver problem after all. I did see somewhere else that you might want to download the driver from Intel and try that instead...of course I think that was the e100 they were referring to in that message :-/ -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

May 30, 2002

RE: [Wlug] weird ethernet problem...

by Keller, Tim

I just changed the format of the netstat so it would be more readable. also, I found a message that accurately describes the problem... http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2002-February/001688.html I also looked at the next message and I'm already running the eepro100 driver. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Anderson [mailto:cra@WPI.EDU] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:36 AM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: Re: [Wlug] weird ethernet problem... On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:16:48AM -0400, Keller, Tim wrote: Tim.Keller> here's what netstat -i gives me... Tim.Keller> Thanks, Tim.Keller> Tim. Tim.Keller> Tim.Keller> Iface: eth0 Tim.Keller> mtu: 1500 Tim.Keller> met: 0 Tim.Keller> rx-ok: 0 Tim.Keller> rx-err: 0 Tim.Keller> rx-drp: 0 Tim.Keller> rx-ovr: 0 Tim.Keller> tx-ok: 0 Tim.Keller> tx-err: 0 Tim.Keller> tx-ovr: 3 Tim.Keller> flg: BMRU That's a strange netstat. I've never seen output formatted like that before. tx-ovr (overruns) is the statistic to watch out for. What does lspci -v -v say about your ethernet card? Any other relavent dmesg output? -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] weird ethernet problem...

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:16:48AM -0400, Keller, Tim wrote: Tim.Keller> here's what netstat -i gives me... Tim.Keller> Thanks, Tim.Keller> Tim. Tim.Keller> Tim.Keller> Iface: eth0 Tim.Keller> mtu: 1500 Tim.Keller> met: 0 Tim.Keller> rx-ok: 0 Tim.Keller> rx-err: 0 Tim.Keller> rx-drp: 0 Tim.Keller> rx-ovr: 0 Tim.Keller> tx-ok: 0 Tim.Keller> tx-err: 0 Tim.Keller> tx-ovr: 3 Tim.Keller> flg: BMRU That's a strange netstat. I've never seen output formatted like that before. tx-ovr (overruns) is the statistic to watch out for. What does lspci -v -v say about your ethernet card? Any other relavent dmesg output? -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

May 30, 2002

RE: [Wlug] weird ethernet problem...

by Keller, Tim

here's what netstat -i gives me... Thanks, Tim. Iface: eth0 mtu: 1500 met: 0 rx-ok: 0 rx-err: 0 rx-drp: 0 rx-ovr: 0 tx-ok: 0 tx-err: 0 tx-ovr: 3 flg: BMRU -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Anderson [mailto:cra@WPI.EDU] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:51 AM To: 'wlug(a)wlug.org' Subject: Re: [Wlug] weird ethernet problem... On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 10:08:52AM -0400, Keller, Tim wrote: Tim.Keller> NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out status 7088 0c00 at 241/301 Tim.Keller> command 001c000 Tim.Keller> Tim.Keller> the box has a Intel 10/100 Pro card running at 100 full duplex. Is the port the card is plugged into also running at full duplex? If autonegotiation is disabled on only one end of the link, you will have a duplex mismatch since the other end will fall back to half duplex. Always use autonegotiation on both ends, or on neither end. Any other errors? What does netstat -i show? Tim.Keller> I hooked up a win2k laptop configured it to the proper ip in the DMZ and it Tim.Keller> worked fine, so I know it's not the link. Try running tcpdump or ethereal on the link. I usually use tcpdump to write to a file, then copy it to my workstation and load it into ethereal there: server# tcpdump -i eth0 -s 1500 -w capture.pcap (the -s 1500 makes sure it captures the whole ethernet frames) I usually see these errors due to one of three reasons: 1. the netcard and/or driver is misconfigured (duplex, interrupt, etc.) 2. the netcard and/or driver is buggy or bad (usually seen on 3c503's :) 3. there is a TON of traffic on the network which is causing the card to not be able to keep up with the reception and transmission of all the packets. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] weird ethernet problem...

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 10:08:52AM -0400, Keller, Tim wrote: Tim.Keller> NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out status 7088 0c00 at 241/301 Tim.Keller> command 001c000 Tim.Keller> Tim.Keller> the box has a Intel 10/100 Pro card running at 100 full duplex. Is the port the card is plugged into also running at full duplex? If autonegotiation is disabled on only one end of the link, you will have a duplex mismatch since the other end will fall back to half duplex. Always use autonegotiation on both ends, or on neither end. Any other errors? What does netstat -i show? Tim.Keller> I hooked up a win2k laptop configured it to the proper ip in the DMZ and it Tim.Keller> worked fine, so I know it's not the link. Try running tcpdump or ethereal on the link. I usually use tcpdump to write to a file, then copy it to my workstation and load it into ethereal there: server# tcpdump -i eth0 -s 1500 -w capture.pcap (the -s 1500 makes sure it captures the whole ethernet frames) I usually see these errors due to one of three reasons: 1. the netcard and/or driver is misconfigured (duplex, interrupt, etc.) 2. the netcard and/or driver is buggy or bad (usually seen on 3c503's :) 3. there is a TON of traffic on the network which is causing the card to not be able to keep up with the reception and transmission of all the packets. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

May 30, 2002

weird ethernet problem...

by Keller, Tim

I just moved a box from a testing network to a DMZ network and I'm getting all this weird ethernet crap... here's the error's I keep getting NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out status 7088 0c00 at 241/301 command 001c000 the commands are different along with the status codes. the box has a Intel 10/100 Pro card running at 100 full duplex. I hooked up a win2k laptop configured it to the proper ip in the DMZ and it worked fine, so I know it's not the link. Thanks, Tim.

May 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] USB Driver: Where to start?

by doug waud

Hi, back again with some second thoughts/ideas :-) Bill Smith wrote: > > Folks, > > I've got this idiot little USB camera that I got as part of a promotion. > (Specifically, it's a QuickVideo weeCam USB from Alaris that I got a > couple years back from Earthlink.) > > Near as I can figure, there are no drivers for this fool thing for > Linux. > > IF I were to attack the problem, where should I start? After sending off that first reply, I recalled that I had got a cheap webcam going some time ago. I went back to find it (took a while!) but it was not that weeCam (it was a Creative Model CT6840). However, I did find some notes I made at the time. The SuSE 7.2 Configuration manual has a chapter on "Watching TV on your PC" (yes, it does pay to buy the distro to get the manuals) which I followed. Basically, I ended up using xawtv (aw as in Athena widgets) which, in turn, uses V4L (video for linux). It looks like I just used Yast (the SuSE sysadmin tool) to install these two, plugged the camera into the USB port, and then went into a terminal (Alt/F2) and typed xawtv and a window came up with the picture from the camera. I just tried the last steps (Alt/F2 and xawtv) and got a view of the bookcase behind me. If you want to borrow that manual and don't mind driving out to Shrewsbury, you are welcome to take a peek. If you do come out, bring your camera and we can plug it in instead of mine and see if it works. doug

May 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] USB Driver: Where to start?

by doug waud

Hi Bill Smith wrote: > > Folks, > > I've got this idiot little USB camera that I got as part of a promotion. > (Specifically, it's a QuickVideo weeCam USB from Alaris that I got a > couple years back from Earthlink.) > > Near as I can figure, there are no drivers for this fool thing for > Linux. > > IF I were to attack the problem, where should I start? You might find the WLUG slides for the Oct 11 2002 meeting helpful as background. While I was dealing with a compact flash reader and USB, you may still find the basic ritual informative. It certainly will not take long to skim. :-) (Just go to the WLUG website, click the "here" under "Past meeting Information" on the main page, and then the "view" under the third meeting from the top.) doug

May 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] USB Driver: Where to start?

by Brian J. Conway

> Near as I can figure, there are no drivers for this fool thing for > Linux. > > IF I were to attack the problem, where should I start? I've noticed in > the logs that the system sees it when it is connected and disconnected, > so I suppose that's a Good Thing, but I don't know where to go from > there. Not sure on that one, but I could point you to the Connectix/Logitech QuickCam VC driver page: http://digilander.iol.it/demarchidaniele/qcamvc/quickcam-vc.html . Apparently the driver (thus far) was entirely reverse engineered with no help from Logitech, it might be a good place to start looking for info debugging what's coming across the USB cable and running with it. Brian J. Conway bconway(a)wpi.edu "Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves." - Albert Einstein

May 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] FORSALE: DEC 3000 model 900

by stoffel＠lucent.com

Just a quick note to those who are interested, the DEC 3000/900 is a deskside unit, and it's got six TurboChannel slots in it. It will be hard to find any expansion cards that will work with Linux. But it will handle a bunch of internal SCSI 50 pin disks and they're pretty solid boxes. I'd be interested myself, but my wife would kill me. :] John

May 29, 2002

FORSALE: DEC 3000 model 900

by Phillip G Deneault

Full size DEC 3000 model 900 275mhz Alpha 128 megs of RAM 7 internal drive bays 50-pin SCSI, 2 bus chains 1 4 gig hard drive, 1 dual speed caddy CD-ROM built in ethernet RGB video card w/21 inch RGB monitor cables, mice, keyboards, etc Works well, provided as is...$300 obo I run Tru64 on it and I am not sure if Linux will run on it. Any questions e-mail me Phil -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Phil Deneault "We work in the dark, We do what we can, deneault(a)wpi.edu We give what we have. Our doubt is our passion, WPI NetOps and our passion is our task. The rest is the OpenVMS Guy maddness of art." - Henry James -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

May 29, 2002

Another auction

by Theo Van Dinter

This looks like it's got some good stuff in it. Anyone need an E10k? ;) http://www.dovebid.com/Auctions/AuctionDetail.asp?auctionID=1141 -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "The nice thing about Windows is - It does not just crash, it displays a dialog box and lets you press 'OK' first." - Arno Schaefer's .sig

May 29, 2002

USB Driver: Where to start?

by Bill Smith

Folks, I've got this idiot little USB camera that I got as part of a promotion. (Specifically, it's a QuickVideo weeCam USB from Alaris that I got a couple years back from Earthlink.) Near as I can figure, there are no drivers for this fool thing for Linux. IF I were to attack the problem, where should I start? I've noticed in the logs that the system sees it when it is connected and disconnected, so I suppose that's a Good Thing, but I don't know where to go from there. Bear in mind that I've never had to write anything like this before, so I'll be starting with a clean slate, as it were... 8\ Any assistance would be appreciated. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com Wherever you go, there you are. * TAG! v3.0 *

May 29, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Sendmail

by Joe Riopel

It's mail and sendmail doing it. I solved this by simply switching to postfix :) -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Chuck Homic Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 1:25 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Sendmail On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 12:38:37PM -0400, Joe Riopel wrote: > I have sendmail set up here at work, and everyone can send email fine, > except when I try to send using the good old mail command.. it tells me > "Can't create transcript file ./xfg4OGa2S21960: Permission denied > queueup: cannot create queue temp file ./tfg4OGa2S21960, uid=500: Permission > denied" Who is being denied permission? 'mail' or 'sendmail'? I guess if it's queueing (can you have that many vowels together?) it must be sendmail. I don't use sendmail, but I think it's odd that it's using the current directory, and not a full path (as daemons often like to do). I guess I should just defer to someone who knows about sendmail. You could also try calling sendmail directly, instead of using mail, and see if that behaves differently. I always do that in scripts anyway... seems to cut out the middle-man. -Chuck _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 27, 2002

RE: [Wlug] D-Link Fast ethernet adapter

by Joe Riopel

Thanks for the help, I got it working with the link I received earlier. I just added the info for my card in "/etc/pcmcia/config" and restart "cardmgr" service. After that, I did "ifup eth0" and it worked fine. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Bill Smith Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 2:05 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] D-Link Fast ethernet adapter On Thu, 23 May 2002 22:47:33 -0400 Joe Riopel <joe(a)crankhouse.com> wrote: JR> I got mdk 7.2 installed on a Toshiba Satellite, everything works JR> great except the networking =[ I have a D-Link Fast Ethernet PCMCIA JR> adapter. Model no: DFE-670TXD. I can't seem to get Linuux to JR> recognize it :( JR> JR> Has anyone got one of these successfully working?? If so please let JR> me know how. i've got a LinkSys Cardbus PCMCIA card, so maybe this is comparing apples and oranges... have you tried loading a tulip driver? that's how i got my card working. +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | William Smith wsmith at chezsmith dot com | | Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Can I trade this job for what's behind door number one? | | * TAG! v2.2 * | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 27, 2002

Re: [Wlug] D-Link Fast ethernet adapter

by Bill Smith

On Thu, 23 May 2002 22:47:33 -0400 Joe Riopel <joe(a)crankhouse.com> wrote: JR> I got mdk 7.2 installed on a Toshiba Satellite, everything works JR> great except the networking =[ I have a D-Link Fast Ethernet PCMCIA JR> adapter. Model no: DFE-670TXD. I can't seem to get Linuux to JR> recognize it :( JR> JR> Has anyone got one of these successfully working?? If so please let JR> me know how. i've got a LinkSys Cardbus PCMCIA card, so maybe this is comparing apples and oranges... have you tried loading a tulip driver? that's how i got my card working. +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | William Smith wsmith at chezsmith dot com | | Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Can I trade this job for what's behind door number one? | | * TAG! v2.2 * | +--------------------------------------------------------------+

May 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Sendmail

by Chuck Homic

On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 12:38:37PM -0400, Joe Riopel wrote: > I have sendmail set up here at work, and everyone can send email fine, > except when I try to send using the good old mail command.. it tells me > "Can't create transcript file ./xfg4OGa2S21960: Permission denied > queueup: cannot create queue temp file ./tfg4OGa2S21960, uid=500: Permission > denied" Who is being denied permission? 'mail' or 'sendmail'? I guess if it's queueing (can you have that many vowels together?) it must be sendmail. I don't use sendmail, but I think it's odd that it's using the current directory, and not a full path (as daemons often like to do). I guess I should just defer to someone who knows about sendmail. You could also try calling sendmail directly, instead of using mail, and see if that behaves differently. I always do that in scripts anyway... seems to cut out the middle-man. -Chuck

May 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] SCSI reset error

by Chuck Homic

On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 02:33:09AM -0400, Keith Wright wrote: > That looks a lot like the messages I got from a drive that was > about to die. In my case, timeouts got more and more frequent, > then the drive started making rattling-grinding sounds Hm... now that you mention it... grinding... > Save your files! No problem, I'm just using it to cache a bunch of MP3 CD's, so I don't have to swap discs, so I can let it burn. > > and a 4GB Western Digital Enterprise that someone > > told me was dead. Heh... okay that sounds pretty bad. > > Reports of its death may have been premature, but don't > count on a long reprieve. After it is backed up you can > play with terminators and configurations. I figure the level of failure it's reached so far is enough to confound a Windows machine. (I don't know, does Windows throw around SCSI bus resets when things go awry?) But I'll have to dig up my bucket o' SCSI crap and see if I can't try out a few terminators, or look up the drive on the web site and see if it's got any termination jumpers or whatnot. Thanks. -Chuck

May 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] SCSI reset error

by Brad Noyes

On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 01:09:56PM -0400, Chuck Homic wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 02:33:09AM -0400, Keith Wright wrote: > > That looks a lot like the messages I got from a drive that was > > about to die. In my case, timeouts got more and more frequent, > > then the drive started making rattling-grinding sounds > > Hm... now that you mention it... grinding... now that i think about it, i had the same probablem. in order to fix it i turned the speed of the scsi bus down. You can give that a try, by going into the SCSI-Select utility (ctl-a on boot), and turn down the scsi bus speed. --brad

May 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] strange filenames

by Bryan Scaringe

Just one more thought: Files with goofy names might be indicative of a screwed-up file system. It may not be a bad idea to run fsck before you go deleting any of those strange files.

May 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] strange filenames

by Brad Noyes

Thanks everyone! All these ideas are great and i probably wouldn't have though of them on my own. Thanks again, --brad

May 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] strange filenames

by Charles R. Anderson

On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 01:43:23PM -0400, Bryan Scaringe wrote: scaringe> you could also try removing the files by inode. Like this I suppose: # shows the inode numbers for each file in the directory ls -i # removes inode number N find . -inum N -exec rm {} \; -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

May 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] strange filenames

by Bryan Scaringe

Charles R. Anderson wrote: >On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 11:00:22AM -0400, Brad Noyes wrote: >maitre> combination. When i try to delete the file using 'rm', or cat it, i can't seem to >maitre> pass the correct filename to rm (i do try to escape characters, and use 'TAB' but no luck). Is there a way to pass an inode number to rm or cat? > >Go to the directory that contains these strange filenames and do: > >rm -i * > >Then type y when you get to the strange file(s) you want to delete. > > > you could also try removing the files by inode.

May 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] strange filenames

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

On Sat, 25 May 2002, Joe Riopel wrote: JR> If you want you can also open up midnight commander, just delete it JR> that way. I had the same problem with a file named '-s' for files that start with a "-" character, to remove them you include a "--" before the file name. for your example: rm -- -s I had to move and delete a bunch of files that were named with a "-" at the beginning... Lots of graphics for a report for one of my math classes... -- --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/

May 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] strange filenames

by Joe Riopel

If you want you can also open up midnight commander, just delete it that way. I had the same problem with a file named '-s' -Joe Charles R. Anderson wrote: >On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 11:00:22AM -0400, Brad Noyes wrote: >maitre> combination. When i try to delete the file using 'rm', or cat it, i can't seem to >maitre> pass the correct filename to rm (i do try to escape characters, and use 'TAB' but no luck). Is there a way to pass an inode number to rm or cat? > >Go to the directory that contains these strange filenames and do: > >rm -i * > >Then type y when you get to the strange file(s) you want to delete. >

May 25, 2002

Sendmail

by Joe Riopel

I have sendmail set up here at work, and everyone can send email fine, except when I try to send using the good old mail command.. it tells me "Can't create transcript file ./xfg4OGa2S21960: Permission denied queueup: cannot create queue temp file ./tfg4OGa2S21960, uid=500: Permission denied" I have tried doing chmod 777 on the "/var/spool/mqueue" and it still fails. However when I use pine and set my smtp server to box.domain.com ( the localhosts name ) I am able to send fine. This problem is preventing a webmail client I wrote from sending mail... Any ideas? Thanks, Joe

May 24, 2002

Re: [Wlug] strange filenames

by Charles R. Anderson

On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 11:00:22AM -0400, Brad Noyes wrote: maitre> combination. When i try to delete the file using 'rm', or cat it, i can't seem to maitre> pass the correct filename to rm (i do try to escape characters, and use 'TAB' but no luck). Is there a way to pass an inode number to rm or cat? Go to the directory that contains these strange filenames and do: rm -i * Then type y when you get to the strange file(s) you want to delete. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

May 24, 2002

Re: [Wlug] strange filenames

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 11:00:22AM -0400, Brad Noyes wrote: > For some reason i sometimes find files with strange names like '??'. When i do > a long listing the file name changes to some other bizare character > combination. When i try to delete the file using 'rm', or cat it, i can't seem to > pass the correct filename to rm (i do try to escape characters, and use 'TAB' but no luck). Is there a way to pass an inode number to rm or cat? Try "ls -b". It will show you octal codes for non-printable chars, and escape things like spaces, etc. You should be able to cut/paste that to rm. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: In most countries selling harmful things like drugs is punishable. Then howcome people can sell Microsoft software and go unpunished? (By hasku(a)rost.abo.fi, Hasse Skrifvars)

May 24, 2002

strange filenames

by Brad Noyes

Hi All For some reason i sometimes find files with strange names like '??'. When i do a long listing the file name changes to some other bizare character combination. When i try to delete the file using 'rm', or cat it, i can't seem to pass the correct filename to rm (i do try to escape characters, and use 'TAB' but no luck). Is there a way to pass an inode number to rm or cat? thanks, --brad

May 24, 2002

KDE 3.0.1

by Andy Stewart

HI gang, I had installed KDE 3.0 as part of my upgrade to SuSE 8.0 and was quite unhappy with the frequency of crashes with Konqueror (multiple times nightly). Well, I've just upgraded to KDE 3.0.1 and have been using Konqueror for over an hour without a crash. Things are looking up! If you are a KDE 3.0 user, I'd recommend upgrading to version 3.0.1. -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 24, 2002

RE: [Wlug] D-Link Fast ethernet adapter

by Steve Freitag

I don't have one, but you might find this link interesting... http://www.bm-soft.com/~bm/archives/200110/msg00178.html -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Joe Riopel Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 10:48 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] D-Link Fast ethernet adapter Hi all, I got mdk 7.2 installed on a Toshiba Satellite, everything works great except the networking =[ I have a D-Link Fast Ethernet PCMCIA adapter. Model no: DFE-670TXD. I can't seem to get Linuux to recognize it :( Has anyone got one of these successfully working?? If so please let me know how. Thanks _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 24, 2002

D-Link Fast ethernet adapter

by Joe Riopel

Hi all, I got mdk 7.2 installed on a Toshiba Satellite, everything works great except the networking =[ I have a D-Link Fast Ethernet PCMCIA adapter. Model no: DFE-670TXD. I can't seem to get Linuux to recognize it :( Has anyone got one of these successfully working?? If so please let me know how. Thanks

May 24, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Flat panel monitor for sale!

by Keller, Tim

I thought it was brand new, but its not. so change that to used. Though I bought a dvd player of this same person and he had all the original packaging, etc. So, I can vouch and say his "used" is about 3 times nicer that what I would consider "Brand new"... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 15:19 PM To: 'wlug(a)wlug.org' Subject: [Wlug] Flat panel monitor for sale! Hey Everybody, One of my co-workers is selling a brand new 17" Mag Innovision LCD Monitor. He's asking $425.00 and has all the original packaging materials for it. Here's more info on the monitor: http://www.maginnovision.com/Products/LT765.asp Let me know if your interesting, I'll forward all responses on to him. Thanks, Tim. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 23, 2002

Flat panel monitor for sale!

by Keller, Tim

Hey Everybody, One of my co-workers is selling a brand new 17" Mag Innovision LCD Monitor. He's asking $425.00 and has all the original packaging materials for it. Here's more info on the monitor: http://www.maginnovision.com/Products/LT765.asp Let me know if your interesting, I'll forward all responses on to him. Thanks, Tim.

May 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Considering Linux for Recording Studio

by Charles R. Anderson

Oh, and here's another good page: http://www.xdt.com/ar/linux-snd/ On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 02:54:12PM +0000, luke macneil blurred our vision with: <PRE> <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P>last I checked theres even a linux forum on recording.org<BR><BR></P></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: Michelle Vadeboncoeur <MRV(a)KLUGE.NET> <DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <DIV></DIV>>To: "'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org'" <WLUG(a)MAIL.WLUG.ORG> <DIV></DIV>>Subject: RE: [Wlug] Considering Linux for Recording Studio <DIV></DIV>>Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:44:02 -0400 (EDT) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>I knew I had seen this question before... <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Digital Sound Editing Under UNIX? <DIV></DIV>>http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/30/0729207&mode=nested&tid=106 <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Professional Audio on Linux? <DIV></DIV>>http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/15/1650217&mode=nested&tid=99 <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>-- <DIV></DIV>>--==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- <DIV></DIV>> mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/ <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>_______________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>>Wlug mailing list <DIV></DIV>>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <DIV></DIV>>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: <a href='http://g.msn.com/1HM305401/43'>Click Here</a><br></html> </PRE> -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

May 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Considering Linux for Recording Studio

by Charles R. Anderson

This is a great web site for Linux MIDI & sound software: http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linuxsound/ On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 02:53:00PM +0000, luke macneil blurred our vision with: <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P>Im also using my system as an audio recording station.. Ive yet to find any open source software that is worth working on.. In my opinion your better off to have a win2k drive running pro-tools (Im a cool-edit nut)</P> <P>A search of freshmeat will bring up some command line based multitrackers.<BR><BR></P></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: Sands Fish <FISHSANDS(a)YAHOO.COM> <DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <DIV></DIV>>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <DIV></DIV>>Subject: [Wlug] Considering Linux for Recording Studio <DIV></DIV>>Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 07:05:40 -0700 (PDT) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Hey guys, <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> I'm about to acquire an Intel 1U PIII-650 256MB <DIV></DIV>>10gig server, used (racked & left) for $250, <DIV></DIV>>(*cheer*), and I had intended to use it for my audio <DIV></DIV>>recording purposes. My first idea was ProTools and <DIV></DIV>>Win2K on it, but as I'd always love a reason to go <DIV></DIV>>full Linux, I wondered if there was a quality, <DIV></DIV>>(hopefully free), recording/audio editing software <DIV></DIV>>option out there. Suggestions would be appreciated! <DIV></DIV>>:) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>-Sands <DIV></DIV>>_______________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>>"daddy, what does 'formatting hard disk' mean?" <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>__________________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>>Do You Yahoo!? <DIV></DIV>>LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience <DIV></DIV>>http://launch.yahoo.com <DIV></DIV>>_______________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>>Wlug mailing list <DIV></DIV>>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <DIV></DIV>>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: <a href='http://g.msn.com/1HM305401/43'>Click Here</a><br></html> -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

May 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Considering Linux for Recording Studio

by Josh Huber

Sands Fish <fishsands(a)yahoo.com> writes: > I'm about to acquire an Intel 1U PIII-650 256MB 10gig server, used > (racked & left) for $250, Tell me you have more of these? ;) ttyl, -- Josh Huber

May 23, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Considering Linux for Recording Studio

by luke macneil

May 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Considering Linux for Recording Studio

by luke macneil

May 23, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Considering Linux for Recording Studio

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

I knew I had seen this question before... Digital Sound Editing Under UNIX? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/30/0729207&mode=nested&tid=106 Professional Audio on Linux? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/15/1650217&mode=nested&tid=99 -- --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/

May 23, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Considering Linux for Recording Studio

by Keller, Tim

definity check out "ultramaster"! Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Sands Fish [mailto:fishsands@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 10:06 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Considering Linux for Recording Studio Hey guys, I'm about to acquire an Intel 1U PIII-650 256MB 10gig server, used (racked & left) for $250, (*cheer*), and I had intended to use it for my audio recording purposes. My first idea was ProTools and Win2K on it, but as I'd always love a reason to go full Linux, I wondered if there was a quality, (hopefully free), recording/audio editing software option out there. Suggestions would be appreciated! :) -Sands _______________________________________________ "daddy, what does 'formatting hard disk' mean?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 23, 2002

Considering Linux for Recording Studio

by Sands Fish

Hey guys, I'm about to acquire an Intel 1U PIII-650 256MB 10gig server, used (racked & left) for $250, (*cheer*), and I had intended to use it for my audio recording purposes. My first idea was ProTools and Win2K on it, but as I'd always love a reason to go full Linux, I wondered if there was a quality, (hopefully free), recording/audio editing software option out there. Suggestions would be appreciated! :) -Sands _______________________________________________ "daddy, what does 'formatting hard disk' mean?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com

May 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] SCSI reset error

by Keith Wright

> From: Chuck Homic <chuck(a)vvisions.com> > > Hey guys... from my syslog: > > May 22 17:05:28 biznatch kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout <etc> > Can anyone who knows more about SCSI tell me what can cause a command > timeout, etc... That looks a lot like the messages I got from a drive that was about to die. In my case, timeouts got more and more frequent, then the drive started making rattling-grinding sounds and then quit working at all. At the time I was not happy to lose the drive, but in retrospect I appreciate the warning. Because it took a few days to totally die, I was able to copy the essential data from it to a new place. I strongly suggest that you not turn on this machine except to do back ups. Save your files! > Do I need a terminator or something? Could be. Bad termination will make a SCSI device act flakey. > So, the error resolves itself in 7 seconds, and no data is lost, ...yet... > and a 4GB Western Digital Enterprise that someone > told me was dead. Heh... okay that sounds pretty bad. Reports of its death may have been premature, but don't count on a long reprieve. After it is backed up you can play with terminators and configurations. -- -- Keith Wright <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com> Programmer in Chief, Free Computer Shop <http://www.free-comp-shop.com> --- Food, Shelter, Source code. ---

May 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] SCSI reset error

by Lee Keyser-Allen

Well considering the hardware, I'm impressed that you've got it cooking at all. As far as termination goes, there's really only one place to check. It sounds to me like you've got a single scsi device on that chain. Since the AIC 78xx auto terminate their end by default, that shouldn't be a problem, so all you have to do is double check that the drive itself is either properly set up to terminate the chain or that there is a terminator after it. You can also play with the powered termination if that drive supports it, but I honestly have never been able to figure out when that is necesary, and when it isn't. Just as an FYI ... I had the exact same problem with my 386 back in the day, where it would just freak out every so often. After moving that drive off of the wimpy little trantor card that it was on, and putting it in a real case (with better cooling) I never recieved the errors again. So to sum up. Check to make sure the drive is staying cool. Check to make sure the drive is terminated. Play with termination power to see if it makes that problem go away. And when all else fails, say f**k it, and just live with the random log messages. Hope that helps a little. Cheers, Lee On Wed, 22 May 2002, Chuck Homic wrote: > Hey guys... from my syslog: > > May 22 17:05:28 biznatch kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 5591, scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 Read (10) 00 00 61 01 11 00 00 80 00 > May 22 17:05:28 biznatch kernel: (scsi0:0:2:0) SCSISIGI 0x44, SEQADDR 0x110, SSTAT0 0x0, SSTAT1 0x3 > May 22 17:05:28 biznatch kernel: (scsi0:0:2:0) SG_CACHEPTR 0x0, SSTAT2 0xf, STCNT 0xe8 > May 22 17:05:29 biznatch kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid 5591) timed out - resetting > May 22 17:05:29 biznatch kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0. > May 22 17:05:30 biznatch kernel: (scsi0:0:2:0) Synchronous at 10.0 Mbyte/sec, offset 15. > > Can anyone who knows more about SCSI tell me what can cause a command > timeout, etc... Do I need a terminator or something? I thought my > configuration was right, since I can transfer hundreds of megabytes > between errors. Can a problem with terminator configuration even be that > subtle? (Forgive a SCSI newbie!) > > So, the error resolves itself in 7 seconds, and no data is lost, so maybe > I don't care. ;) Really, the problem is that it muddies up the console > when it happens, and I have to press ^a l. > > The system is a decade-old experimental dual Pentium-133 running 2.2.21 > SMP, with an onboard AIC-7870 (with a BIOS that says "EVALUATION VERSION. > DO NOT DISTRIBUTE.") and a 4GB Western Digital Enterprise that someone > told me was dead. Heh... okay that sounds pretty bad. > > So, I guess only pay attention to the terminator question. ;) > > Thanks. > > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Lee Keyser-Allen lkeyser(a)wpi.edu WPI CS 2002

May 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] SCSI reset error

by Jeremy

And I thought my 7500 was bad enough! --- Chuck Homic <chuck(a)vvisions.com> wrote: > Hey guys... from my syslog: > > May 22 17:05:28 biznatch kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid > 5591, scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 Read (10) 00 00 61 01 11 00 00 80 00 > May 22 17:05:28 biznatch kernel: (scsi0:0:2:0) SCSISIGI 0x44, SEQADDR 0x110, > SSTAT0 0x0, SSTAT1 0x3 > May 22 17:05:28 biznatch kernel: (scsi0:0:2:0) SG_CACHEPTR 0x0, SSTAT2 0xf, > STCNT 0xe8 > May 22 17:05:29 biznatch kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid 5591) timed out - > resetting > May 22 17:05:29 biznatch kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel > 0. > May 22 17:05:30 biznatch kernel: (scsi0:0:2:0) Synchronous at 10.0 Mbyte/sec, > offset 15. > > Can anyone who knows more about SCSI tell me what can cause a command > timeout, etc... Do I need a terminator or something? I thought my > configuration was right, since I can transfer hundreds of megabytes > between errors. Can a problem with terminator configuration even be that > subtle? (Forgive a SCSI newbie!) > > So, the error resolves itself in 7 seconds, and no data is lost, so maybe > I don't care. ;) Really, the problem is that it muddies up the console > when it happens, and I have to press ^a l. > > The system is a decade-old experimental dual Pentium-133 running 2.2.21 > SMP, with an onboard AIC-7870 (with a BIOS that says "EVALUATION VERSION. > DO NOT DISTRIBUTE.") and a 4GB Western Digital Enterprise that someone > told me was dead. Heh... okay that sounds pretty bad. > > So, I guess only pay attention to the terminator question. ;) > > Thanks. > > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug ===== - __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com

May 22, 2002

SCSI reset error

by Chuck Homic

Hey guys... from my syslog: May 22 17:05:28 biznatch kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 5591, scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 Read (10) 00 00 61 01 11 00 00 80 00 May 22 17:05:28 biznatch kernel: (scsi0:0:2:0) SCSISIGI 0x44, SEQADDR 0x110, SSTAT0 0x0, SSTAT1 0x3 May 22 17:05:28 biznatch kernel: (scsi0:0:2:0) SG_CACHEPTR 0x0, SSTAT2 0xf, STCNT 0xe8 May 22 17:05:29 biznatch kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid 5591) timed out - resetting May 22 17:05:29 biznatch kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0. May 22 17:05:30 biznatch kernel: (scsi0:0:2:0) Synchronous at 10.0 Mbyte/sec, offset 15. Can anyone who knows more about SCSI tell me what can cause a command timeout, etc... Do I need a terminator or something? I thought my configuration was right, since I can transfer hundreds of megabytes between errors. Can a problem with terminator configuration even be that subtle? (Forgive a SCSI newbie!) So, the error resolves itself in 7 seconds, and no data is lost, so maybe I don't care. ;) Really, the problem is that it muddies up the console when it happens, and I have to press ^a l. The system is a decade-old experimental dual Pentium-133 running 2.2.21 SMP, with an onboard AIC-7870 (with a BIOS that says "EVALUATION VERSION. DO NOT DISTRIBUTE.") and a 4GB Western Digital Enterprise that someone told me was dead. Heh... okay that sounds pretty bad. So, I guess only pay attention to the terminator question. ;) Thanks. -Chuck

May 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Xfer mail from Outlook to...

by donald vitkus

Baris Hasdemir wrote: >hi, > >libdbx had worked for me to transfer my e-mails from outlook express to >mbox format. > >http://freshmeat.net/projects/libdbx/?topic_id=28 > >baris > >On Sun, 18 May 2003 08:32:35 -0400 >Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > > > >>Anyone out there know how to get email out of Outlook/Exchange and into >>something else? >> >>I use outlook at work, and also at home when doing stuff for work, but >>want to get all that stuff into a flat file similar to what UNIX uses >>(used?), which is also similar to what Eudora uses. In other words, I >>want to get away from Outlook/exchange all together and get into a >>format that is easily manipulated by scripts or easily imported into >>other email applications. >> >>Any help would be greatly appreciated! >> >>Regards, >>Steve >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > why have i got so many copies of this message

May 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Streaming audio from sound card...

by Chuck Haines

How about looking at icecast. Shoutcast can only stream off of a windows box (but can be listened to on windozs and *nix). icecast will play off of linux boxes (and can be listened to on windoze and *nix). At 02:45 PM 5/18/2002 -0400, you wrote: >have you looked at shoutcast? I've used it before to stream 24/7 the >college radio station where went to school. I belive it's available >for win32 or unix. > >shoutcast.com > >On Sat, 18 May 2002, RB wrote: > > > Any recommendations on what to use as a server app to stream audio from a > > sound card input? I'm looking to send an MP3-encoded stream from a police > > scanner radio over an internal network. I need to be able to use WinAmp > and > > XMMS as clients. > > > > Been searching around and see lots of choices but looking for > recommendations > > on a simple and stable solution. Would prefer a non-GUI server app so I > can > > use a low-end machine but that's not absolutely necessary. > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > -= rb(a)millbury.net =- > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >-- > >¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø >Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> >Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 >Cell: 508-517-4819 >Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ >Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ >KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ >AOL IM ID = KarlH420 >¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > >Examinations are formidable even to the best prepared, for >even the greatest fool may ask more the the wisest man can answer. > -- C.C. Colton > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Chuck Haines | AIM: CyberGrex | | WPILA Lab Manager | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | | http://www.wpila.org | ICQ: 3707881 | | GDC Webmaster | http://gdc.wpi.edu | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Geek by nature, Linux by choice."

May 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Streaming audio from sound card...

by Karl Hiramoto

have you looked at shoutcast? I've used it before to stream 24/7 the college radio station where went to school. I belive it's available for win32 or unix. shoutcast.com On Sat, 18 May 2002, RB wrote: > Any recommendations on what to use as a server app to stream audio from a > sound card input? I'm looking to send an MP3-encoded stream from a police > scanner radio over an internal network. I need to be able to use WinAmp and > XMMS as clients. > > Been searching around and see lots of choices but looking for recommendations > on a simple and stable solution. Would prefer a non-GUI server app so I can > use a low-end machine but that's not absolutely necessary. > > Thanks! > > -- Rob > > > > > > -= rb(a)millbury.net =- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Examinations are formidable even to the best prepared, for even the greatest fool may ask more the the wisest man can answer. -- C.C. Colton

May 18, 2002

Streaming audio from sound card...

by RB

Any recommendations on what to use as a server app to stream audio from a sound card input? I'm looking to send an MP3-encoded stream from a police scanner radio over an internal network. I need to be able to use WinAmp and XMMS as clients. Been searching around and see lots of choices but looking for recommendations on a simple and stable solution. Would prefer a non-GUI server app so I can use a low-end machine but that's not absolutely necessary. Thanks! -- Rob -= rb(a)millbury.net =-

May 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: Meeting Wed, May 15th

by Gregory Avedissian

$*(@#&^&*^!!! I need to get my calendar fixed... Greg Andy Stewart wrote: > HI everybody, > > This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting to be held this Wednesday > evening, May 15th, at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus. >

May 16, 2002

Re: driftnet

by Bill Mills-Curran

Nevermind... I had a directory with bad permissions left over from a failed attempt to run from a non-privleged account. Bill On Thu, 16 May 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 08:52:02 -0400 (EDT) > From: Bill Mills-Curran <subssn594(a)charter.net> > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Subject: driftnet > > I just installed driftnet (http://www.ex-parrot.com/~chris/driftnet/) > on a whim, but I can't seem to get it to show me any graphics, and I'm > fairly sure there is some going by. I'm running RedHat 7.1. Here's > the command I'm running as root: > > ./driftnet -v -i eth0 > > I get a blank pop-up, and the command window shows that it's seeing > traffic. > > TIA, > Bill > >

May 16, 2002

driftnet

by Bill Mills-Curran

I just installed driftnet (http://www.ex-parrot.com/~chris/driftnet/) on a whim, but I can't seem to get it to show me any graphics, and I'm fairly sure there is some going by. I'm running RedHat 7.1. Here's the command I'm running as root: ./driftnet -v -i eth0 I get a blank pop-up, and the command window shows that it's seeing traffic. TIA, Bill

May 16, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Locked up

by Paul Gelinas

XP, huh ? Well, I haven't toyed with that beastie yet, but I have had 2 IDE disks fail under NT 4.0 (one at woek, one at home). Symptoms included sluggish file access, lockups, and BSODs. Look in Event Viewer, under System, for disk errors. If the disk is going bad, you'll see many of these (both correctable and non). Hope this helps. PaulG -- Paul Gelinas MCP, MCP+I, MCSE pgelinas(a)attbi.com

May 15, 2002