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Re: [Wlug] Testing WLUG e-mail list

by Dave Coutu

Andy, I've been getting these emails, as well as anything sent to my @alum.wpi.edu forwarding address multiple times. Looking at and comparing the message headers, it would appear that mcafee.wpi.edu might be the culprit as it's the point in the chain of mail relays where timestamps start changing. Maybe it's in a forwarding loop or it's mail queue is hosed somehow so that it thinks messages haven't been delivered yet, so it retries. *shrug* Glad to know that I'm not the only one seeing this problem, it's been happening since Friday and is driving me batty. Anyone else at WPI have an idea what might be going on or is experiencing this issue? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Stewart" <andystewart(a)attbi.com> To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 2:31 PM Subject: [Wlug] Testing WLUG e-mail list > > ...I'm trying to figure out why I got 14 copies (literally!) of Steve Daukas' > posting, as well as a couple of others. > > Andy

May 18, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Testing WLUG e-mail list

by Theo Van Dinter

On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 04:00:33PM -0700, Dave Coutu wrote: > retries. *shrug* Glad to know that I'm not the only one seeing this > problem, it's been happening since Friday and is driving me batty. Anyone > else at WPI have an idea what might be going on or is experiencing this > issue? I haven't actually seen duplicate messages, very likely due to this useful procmail rule: :0 Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 16384 $HOME/.msgid.cache It stops the same message (based on message id) from being received multiple times, which is very useful if people (for instance) respond to both you and a list you read, you'll only get the mail once. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Where are all the great pot head writers? There aren't any. Because no one wants to read a book about the most delicious twinkie." - Dave Attell, Insomniac, New York City, 2001

May 18, 2003

Testing WLUG e-mail list

by Andy Stewart

...I'm trying to figure out why I got 14 copies (literally!) of Steve Daukas' posting, as well as a couple of others. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 18, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Xfer mail from Outlook to...

by Baris Hasdemir

hi, libdbx had worked for me to transfer my e-mails from outlook express to mbox format. http://freshmeat.net/projects/libdbx/?topic_id=28 baris On Sun, 18 May 2003 08:32:35 -0400 Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Anyone out there know how to get email out of Outlook/Exchange and into > something else? > > I use outlook at work, and also at home when doing stuff for work, but > want to get all that stuff into a flat file similar to what UNIX uses > (used?), which is also similar to what Eudora uses. In other words, I > want to get away from Outlook/exchange all together and get into a > format that is easily manipulated by scripts or easily imported into > other email applications. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > Regards, > Steve >

May 18, 2003

Xfer mail from Outlook to...

by Stephen C. Daukas

Anyone out there know how to get email out of Outlook/Exchange and into something else? I use outlook at work, and also at home when doing stuff for work, but want to get all that stuff into a flat file similar to what UNIX uses (used?), which is also similar to what Eudora uses. In other words, I want to get away from Outlook/exchange all together and get into a format that is easily manipulated by scripts or easily imported into other email applications. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Regards, Steve

May 18, 2003

Re: [Wlug] http load generators

by Tom Guilderson

Marc, Thanks for the response. I have not actually downloaded your code and am just gathering info right now, but I do have a couple of quick questions in the event your project code base is a fit for what I need to do: 1. what language - your web site indicates c++, scheme/guile for the scripts but sourceforge indicates delphi/kylix???? 2. how complete/incomplete http handling compete, scripting engine, gui (do not really care too much about), etc. ?? 3. GPL? We would need to modify since the client side of the application is not a browser/html based. It just uses http and servlets as the tier between the client and backend business logic and database - so we sould need to modify the scripting logic anyway to handle serailized java objects and dynamically create the next appropriate request (eg fixing the previous failed request or going on to the next step in the business process). 4. Would you prefer to give CVS committ access or to get new code/patches sent through you???? Or would you prefer I created a fork giving you credit for initial code base? Ultimately, the load generator is for internal use at the company I work for and all the changes from us would be funnelled through one person designated as the maintainer of the code internally. TIA, Tom Guilderson On 2003.05.09 15:43 Marc Hughes wrote: > Sounds like you found one of my projects! (incomplete, and nothing > released in 18 months) > http://www.wpidalamar.com/projects/123loadtest/ > > -Marc > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of twg3(a)attbi.com > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 1:33 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] http load generators > > > Does anyone have any recommendations of open source tools for > generating > very high volume http traffic simulating large numbers of clients form > multiple IP addresses? I did a search on sourceforge and most of the > projects have not released any new code in 18 months or more - so not > sure of status on most of them. > > I need to test an application that uses HTTP as its transport layer > (but > not > HTML) so open source tools would allow the customizations I need, with > out haveing to write everything from scratch. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 14, 2003

Clarification: location of next meeting

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, There was a minor error on the WLUG home page that might have caused some confusion. The next WLUG meeting is in a new location, that being Olin Hall room 107. FYI: I'm told that the lobby area of Salisbury Labs is/will be undergoing renovation, hence we cannot use that room for the entire summer, so we'll be in Olin Hall 107 for the next few meetings. My apologies if there was any confusion. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 14, 2003

Computer 4 sale

by Marc Hughes

Dual PIII 1ghz Case + power 512mb ram 2 Hard Drives - 16gig + 8gig (or about that size) Sony IDE CDRW (fast, I think 48x,24x,16x) Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI Ethernet card $400 There will be 2 big gaping holes in the front if I can't find the 5 1/4 drive bay covers. No video card. Also, nVidia geForce 3 and above cards don't work with this motherboard. nVidia blames it on Tyan, and Tyan blames it on nVidia. My Radeon 7550 works just fine (but you don't get that). If you want, I have an old voodoo3 card which was in this at one point, it worked then, you can have it for free with the computer. Under Windows, I was never able to get USB working well (keyboard was fine, camera + mouse weren't). Under linux, usb worked 100%, so I'm assuming it's just my luck with windows and not the hardware. I will be wiping the drives clean before selling it, so you're on your own for an OS. I think one of the drives may be mounted "creatively" so be forewarned. If anyone wants it, hopefully we can arrange a drop-off & pickup, perhaps at a wlug meeting to avoid any shipping. Please send replies to me, and not the list. -Marc

May 12, 2003

REMINDER: WLUG Meeting Thurs. May 15th 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Thursday, May 15th, 2003 at 7:00 PM in Olin Hall 107 (note new location!) on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA. At this meeting, our guest speaker will be Vince McHugh. Vince will talk to WLUG about the Common Unix Printing System (CUPS). The second part of Vince's talk will be about imaging and scanning. In this context, Vince will talk about how his company, NECS, is making Canon scanning products work in the Linux environment. Vince is a member of GNHLUG and is also a Systems Support Manager for NECS/Canon (the largest independent Canon dealer in New England). Vince has been involved with Linux for the last 4-5 years, and also possesses a Novell CNE and a Windows MCP. Light refreshments will be served at the meeting. Afterwards, we'll go to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. All are welcome! -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 11, 2003

RE: [Wlug] http load generators

by Marc Hughes

Sounds like you found one of my projects! (incomplete, and nothing released in 18 months) http://www.wpidalamar.com/projects/123loadtest/ -Marc -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of twg3(a)attbi.com Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 1:33 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] http load generators Does anyone have any recommendations of open source tools for generating very high volume http traffic simulating large numbers of clients form multiple IP addresses? I did a search on sourceforge and most of the projects have not released any new code in 18 months or more - so not sure of status on most of them. I need to test an application that uses HTTP as its transport layer (but not HTML) so open source tools would allow the customizations I need, with out haveing to write everything from scratch. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 9, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat GUI performance

by Charles R. Anderson

On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 02:27:27PM -0400, Karl Hiramoto wrote: karl> Yes, I've heard people claim that using the preemptive scheduler patch karl> on 2.4 it "feels" faster. but results seem anecdotal. karl> karl> Anyone here try that patch? No, but I just found this work I might try: http://www.rexursive.com/software.html -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

May 9, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat GUI performance

by Karl Hiramoto

Yes, I've heard people claim that using the preemptive scheduler patch on 2.4 it "feels" faster. but results seem anecdotal. Anyone here try that patch? My guess would be that total CPU throughput decreases, but interactive feeling increases, just what you want on workstation, but not on most servers. And i wouldn't try expermental patches on my servers :) On Fri, 9 May 2003 twg3(a)attbi.com wrote: > Some of this may also be related to the OS scheduler and VM configuration of the > kernel - both of which have been improved in the new 2.5/2.6 kernel. The new > shceduler is preemptive and does a better job of giving interactive processes a > higher priority which makes the box "feel" faster. It is because of this feel, > that I actually run a 2.2 kernel on my desktop/workstation since it feels faster > than a 2.4 kernel (but does not support as much hardware which I can run 2.5 for > if I need to). > > > > I've notice that when going from redhat 7.x to 8 or 9 you need a > > minimum of 256M RAM. with 128M and running gnome there is way too > > much swap space in use. > > > > Gnome and KDE are very bulky GUI's.. twm or blackbox are the slimest > > and fastest. A friend of mine runs gentoo linux and it seems very > > fast compared to redhat on the same box. > > > > type the "free" command at the prompt and see your memory usage also > > "ps aumx" to see process memory usage. > > > > I would reccomend spending the roughly $40 to get a 256M upgrade for > > your box. More RAM almost always helps. The os can keep more things > > in memory and give you a faster response. I use 512M myself. > > > > hope this helps > > > > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey) wrote: > > > > > I have a general question about Linux performance... > > > > > > I am running Redhat 8.0 on a Dell 400MHz, 128MB system (OptiPlex) with an > > > 8MB ATI Rage Pro Video card. I have a fairly basic workstation installation, > > with > > > SSHd, ftpd, telnetd, apached, and a couple other services running. Gnome > > seems > > > to take forever to open windows/applications. It can be on the order of 10 > > seconds > > > to a minute for some applications to come up. (Mozilla is one of the worst, > > even > > > to just bring up a local file as the home page for the browser) > > > > > > Is Gnome just a very slow GUI, or is there something that I can do to speed up > > my > > > system?? > > > > > > I know of several (5-6) people who have installed RedHat 7.2...8.0 on Dell and > > Sony > > > systems (all CPU are 866MHz+) with Gnome or KDE and the performance has been > > > very slow in the GUI. Even with a higher end 1.5GHz CPU/512MB RAM system. > > > > > > Is there a Linux distribution that has a standard GUI that is very responsive? > > Is Redhat > > > just too bulky to run quickly, or do I need to download a better GUI for > > Redhat? > > > > > > With Windows2000, this system was very responsive, and the other people I know > > > about are running XP, which is so much faster that they run XP most of the > > time now. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > > Cell: 508-517-4819 > > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > > > The hardest thing is to disguise your feelings when you put a lot of > > relatives on the train for home. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø The hardest thing is to disguise your feelings when you put a lot of relatives on the train for home.

May 9, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat GUI performance

by twg3＠attbi.com

Some of this may also be related to the OS scheduler and VM configuration of the kernel - both of which have been improved in the new 2.5/2.6 kernel. The new shceduler is preemptive and does a better job of giving interactive processes a higher priority which makes the box "feel" faster. It is because of this feel, that I actually run a 2.2 kernel on my desktop/workstation since it feels faster than a 2.4 kernel (but does not support as much hardware which I can run 2.5 for if I need to). > > I've notice that when going from redhat 7.x to 8 or 9 you need a > minimum of 256M RAM. with 128M and running gnome there is way too > much swap space in use. > > Gnome and KDE are very bulky GUI's.. twm or blackbox are the slimest > and fastest. A friend of mine runs gentoo linux and it seems very > fast compared to redhat on the same box. > > type the "free" command at the prompt and see your memory usage also > "ps aumx" to see process memory usage. > > I would reccomend spending the roughly $40 to get a 256M upgrade for > your box. More RAM almost always helps. The os can keep more things > in memory and give you a faster response. I use 512M myself. > > hope this helps > > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey) wrote: > > > I have a general question about Linux performance... > > > > I am running Redhat 8.0 on a Dell 400MHz, 128MB system (OptiPlex) with an > > 8MB ATI Rage Pro Video card. I have a fairly basic workstation installation, > with > > SSHd, ftpd, telnetd, apached, and a couple other services running. Gnome > seems > > to take forever to open windows/applications. It can be on the order of 10 > seconds > > to a minute for some applications to come up. (Mozilla is one of the worst, > even > > to just bring up a local file as the home page for the browser) > > > > Is Gnome just a very slow GUI, or is there something that I can do to speed up > my > > system?? > > > > I know of several (5-6) people who have installed RedHat 7.2...8.0 on Dell and > Sony > > systems (all CPU are 866MHz+) with Gnome or KDE and the performance has been > > very slow in the GUI. Even with a higher end 1.5GHz CPU/512MB RAM system. > > > > Is there a Linux distribution that has a standard GUI that is very responsive? > Is Redhat > > just too bulky to run quickly, or do I need to download a better GUI for > Redhat? > > > > With Windows2000, this system was very responsive, and the other people I know > > about are running XP, which is so much faster that they run XP most of the > time now. > > > > Thanks, > > jeff > > > > > > > > -- > > €º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > Cell: 508-517-4819 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > €º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > > The hardest thing is to disguise your feelings when you put a lot of > relatives on the train for home. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 9, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat GUI performance

by Karl Hiramoto

I've notice that when going from redhat 7.x to 8 or 9 you need a minimum of 256M RAM. with 128M and running gnome there is way too much swap space in use. Gnome and KDE are very bulky GUI's.. twm or blackbox are the slimest and fastest. A friend of mine runs gentoo linux and it seems very fast compared to redhat on the same box. type the "free" command at the prompt and see your memory usage also "ps aumx" to see process memory usage. I would reccomend spending the roughly $40 to get a 256M upgrade for your box. More RAM almost always helps. The os can keep more things in memory and give you a faster response. I use 512M myself. hope this helps On Fri, 9 May 2003, Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey) wrote: > I have a general question about Linux performance... > > I am running Redhat 8.0 on a Dell 400MHz, 128MB system (OptiPlex) with an > 8MB ATI Rage Pro Video card. I have a fairly basic workstation installation, with > SSHd, ftpd, telnetd, apached, and a couple other services running. Gnome seems > to take forever to open windows/applications. It can be on the order of 10 seconds > to a minute for some applications to come up. (Mozilla is one of the worst, even > to just bring up a local file as the home page for the browser) > > Is Gnome just a very slow GUI, or is there something that I can do to speed up my > system?? > > I know of several (5-6) people who have installed RedHat 7.2...8.0 on Dell and Sony > systems (all CPU are 866MHz+) with Gnome or KDE and the performance has been > very slow in the GUI. Even with a higher end 1.5GHz CPU/512MB RAM system. > > Is there a Linux distribution that has a standard GUI that is very responsive? Is Redhat > just too bulky to run quickly, or do I need to download a better GUI for Redhat? > > With Windows2000, this system was very responsive, and the other people I know > about are running XP, which is so much faster that they run XP most of the time now. > > Thanks, > jeff > > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø The hardest thing is to disguise your feelings when you put a lot of relatives on the train for home.

May 9, 2003

Redhat GUI performance

by Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey)

I have a general question about Linux performance... I am running Redhat 8.0 on a Dell 400MHz, 128MB system (OptiPlex) with an 8MB ATI Rage Pro Video card. I have a fairly basic workstation installation, with SSHd, ftpd, telnetd, apached, and a couple other services running. Gnome seems to take forever to open windows/applications. It can be on the order of 10 seconds to a minute for some applications to come up. (Mozilla is one of the worst, even to just bring up a local file as the home page for the browser) Is Gnome just a very slow GUI, or is there something that I can do to speed up my system?? I know of several (5-6) people who have installed RedHat 7.2...8.0 on Dell and Sony systems (all CPU are 866MHz+) with Gnome or KDE and the performance has been very slow in the GUI. Even with a higher end 1.5GHz CPU/512MB RAM system. Is there a Linux distribution that has a standard GUI that is very responsive? Is Redhat just too bulky to run quickly, or do I need to download a better GUI for Redhat? With Windows2000, this system was very responsive, and the other people I know about are running XP, which is so much faster that they run XP most of the time now. Thanks, jeff

May 9, 2003

http load generators

by twg3＠attbi.com

Does anyone have any recommendations of open source tools for generating very high volume http traffic simulating large numbers of clients form multiple IP addresses? I did a search on sourceforge and most of the projects have not released any new code in 18 months or more - so not sure of status on most of them. I need to test an application that uses HTTP as its transport layer (but not HTML) so open source tools would allow the customizations I need, with out haveing to write everything from scratch.

May 9, 2003

RE: [Wlug] /tmp

by twg3＠attbi.com

Good advice. The X window system amd font server create its unix domain sockets as files under /tmp along with other programs, which will not show up doing "fuser -u /tmp/*". Also do a "netstat -pA" to get a list of all the unix domain sockets and look for files in /tmp. The -p will let you know which program you will break if you delete the socket, but just leave those files alone as they are not taking up any space on the file system, just an inode. > Gregory, > > You'll want to do a "fuser -u /tmp/*" and see what files are currently in > use. If it's currently not in use, it's probably safe to delete. > > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@rcn.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 12:14 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] /tmp > > > Is it safe to delete the contents of the /tmp directory to make some > space on the drive? > > Thanks. > > Greg > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 9, 2003

RE: [Wlug] /tmp

by Keller, Tim

Gregory, You'll want to do a "fuser -u /tmp/*" and see what files are currently in use. If it's currently not in use, it's probably safe to delete. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@rcn.com] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 12:14 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] /tmp Is it safe to delete the contents of the /tmp directory to make some space on the drive? Thanks. Greg _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 8, 2003

/tmp

by Gregory Avedissian

Is it safe to delete the contents of the /tmp directory to make some space on the drive? Thanks. Greg

May 8, 2003

Re: [Wlug] scanner help

by Bill Mills-Curran

Andy, Thanks for the tips. I've tried everything you suggested, and still no joy. However, I think that a newer version of sane is in order. I'm still using the version from RH 8.0: > rpm -qa|fgrep sane sane-backends-1.0.8-5 sane-frontends-1.0.8-4 xsane-0.84-8 I have the Red Hat 9 CD's, and I'll upgrade as soon as possible to see what happens. Thanks, Bill

May 8, 2003

SuSE 8.2

by Michael Long

Howdy, I am looking for the zope rpm's, including the source rpm, from the SuSE 8.2 cd's. Would anyone have them? Thanks, Mike

May 5, 2003

Re: [Wlug] scanner help

by Andy Stewart

On Friday 02 May 2003 3:30 pm, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I have a new Epson 1660 scanner, and I'm having difficulty getting it > working with the sane drivers. Here's what I have thus far... > > 1. lsusb worked immediately. Here's some of the output: > > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Virtual Hub > Device Descriptor: > <snip> > Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b8:011e Seiko Epson Corp. > Device Descriptor: OK, 04b8:011e is the Epson 1660. You knew that. :-) > > (I recently unloaded & loaded the USB & printer modules, and the > device numbers for the printer (HP) and scanner (Epson) changed.) > > 2. sane-find-scanner: found USB scanner (vendor = 0x04b8, product = > 0x011e) at device /dev/usb/scanner0 It found my Epson 1660 at both /dev/usb/scanner0 and /dev/usbscanner. I don't know why I have both, and they both have major:minor=180:48. > > This did not work until I added this to the /etc/modules.conf file and > modprobe'd "scanner": I also have the scanner module loaded. > > options scanner vendor=0x04b8 product=0x011e Yup... > > 3. My /etc/sane.d/epson.conf file has: > > usb /dev/usb/scanner0 I have "usb /dev/usbscanner", but recall note above. > > (Is that right? I did try some other devices) I also tried > > usb 0x04b8 0x011e > > No luck > > 4. I chmod'd (666) /dev/usb/scanner*. Mine is (666). I'm running sane-backends-1.0.9 and sane-frontends-1.0.9 which I built from source in /usr/local. I'm running xsane 0.90. There are more recent versions available. I'm using a 2.4.20 kernel, but it worked on my 2.4.19 and I think also on 2.4.18. You didn't mention your kernel rev, but I assume 2.4.x since Redhat 8.0 is a relatively recent vintage. > > 5. xsane always fails. Here are some of the messages. > > > xsane > > no devices available According to the xsane readme in the source tarball, the most common problem is having multiple copies of sane installed, and having them conflict in some way. You might try something like this "find / -name "*sane*" | less". Also, try this: rm -rf ~/.sane/xsane If all else fails, try running strace on xsane. It might shed some clues. Let me know how it goes. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 3, 2003

scanner help

by Bill Mills-Curran

I have a new Epson 1660 scanner, and I'm having difficulty getting it working with the sane drivers. Here's what I have thus far... 1. lsusb worked immediately. Here's some of the output: Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Virtual Hub Device Descriptor: <snip> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b8:011e Seiko Epson Corp. Device Descriptor: <snip> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 03f0:0317 Hewlett-Packard Device Descriptor: <snip> (I recently unloaded & loaded the USB & printer modules, and the device numbers for the printer (HP) and scanner (Epson) changed.) 2. sane-find-scanner: found USB scanner (vendor = 0x04b8, product = 0x011e) at device /dev/usb/scanner0 This did not work until I added this to the /etc/modules.conf file and modprobe'd "scanner": options scanner vendor=0x04b8 product=0x011e 3. My /etc/sane.d/epson.conf file has: usb /dev/usb/scanner0 (Is that right? I did try some other devices) I also tried usb 0x04b8 0x011e No luck 4. I chmod'd (666) /dev/usb/scanner*. 5. xsane always fails. Here are some of the messages. > xsane no devices available > xsane epson:/dev/usb/scanner0 Failed to open device 'epson:/dev/usb/scanner0': Operation not supported. Any suggestions? TIA, Bill P.S. I'm running stock Red Hat 8.0. (I have installed the ALSA sound modules.)

May 2, 2003

Re: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by mhughes＠wpidalamar.com

There is some weirdness with GPL'ness of the project.. Lawmeme got dinged by phpnuke a while back... unfortunatly I can't seem to connect to them right now. here's an article that references it ... http://news.postnuke.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=… Basically phpnuke has a copyright notice it outputs to every single request. The phpNuke author says you MUST keep this in. The GPL has a provision that hints at this, but doesn't really seem to fit to me. It's all a bit whacky, and doesn't seem to me to be what the GPL is all about. -Marc On Thu, 1 May 2003, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > > 3. The last issue is a bit fuzzy. There are those who were reportedly > involved with the development of phpnuke who claim that the "author" has > "interesting ideas" about GPL and, according to them, believe that > phpnuke in the future may no loger remain GPL. > > So, looks like postnuke has picked up where phpnuke left off? The dig > continues... ;-) > > Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

May 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Stephen C. Daukas

Basically, it looks as though none of the "free" CMS software applications are actually turn-key out-of-the-box. Some offer a better base to work from than others, but everyhting I have seen in the last week or so has convinced me that you have to get under the hood in some way for some reason. Not that I'm done digging, but it looks like no matter which way you choose to go, you will have to do two things: 1. Write some of your own code, and 2: Gain some pretty intimate understanding of how the chosen system actually works so you can accomplish #1. If my guess is correct, I'll end up using Perl, PhP, mySQL, and probably WML on running on Linux/Apache. ;-) I am hoping to start with a project already out there and go from there... But I'll be digging around for a little while longer... Steve Brett Russ wrote: > Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > >> By way of FYI... In all of my digging, I have found a fair bit of >> information regarding phpnuke, most of it bad. >> > <snip> > >> So, looks like postnuke has picked up where phpnuke left off? The dig >> continues... ;-) > > > FWIW, I started off with postnuke after reading similar experiences. > This was a while ago but I was not impressed with it. I "fell back" to > phpnuke and, while I am not very impressed with it either, it does the > job. > > So it sounds like Zope requires quite a bit of programming just to get > running? Or is there a default setup that offers most of what people > need in a basic CMS? > > BR

May 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Michael Long

If you are looking for a basic CMS you can check out Plone. It is a product that is installed in Zope and offers some very rich functionality "out of the box" There is also a large community that has written products for various speciallized needs. You will find bloggers, bugtrackers, polling products and many utilities that are available for implementation into your site. For more info go to www.zope.org www.plone.org I'll get off my soapbox now :)) --mike On Thu, 2003-05-01 at 11:14, Brett Russ wrote: > Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > > By way of FYI... In all of my digging, I have found a fair bit of > > information regarding phpnuke, most of it bad. > > > <snip> > > So, looks like postnuke has picked up where phpnuke left off? The dig > > continues... ;-) > > FWIW, I started off with postnuke after reading similar experiences. > This was a while ago but I was not impressed with it. I "fell back" to > phpnuke and, while I am not very impressed with it either, it does the job. > > So it sounds like Zope requires quite a bit of programming just to get > running? Or is there a default setup that offers most of what people > need in a basic CMS? > > BR > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Michael Long <mlong(a)datalong.com>

May 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Brett Russ

Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > By way of FYI... In all of my digging, I have found a fair bit of > information regarding phpnuke, most of it bad. > <snip> > So, looks like postnuke has picked up where phpnuke left off? The dig > continues... ;-) FWIW, I started off with postnuke after reading similar experiences. This was a while ago but I was not impressed with it. I "fell back" to phpnuke and, while I am not very impressed with it either, it does the job. So it sounds like Zope requires quite a bit of programming just to get running? Or is there a default setup that offers most of what people need in a basic CMS? BR

May 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] CD burning question...

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, May 01, 2003 at 10:51:01AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: subssn594> md5sum file.iso subssn594> md5sum /dev/scd0 subssn594> Right? (I think I'm getting some errors while burning.) Yes, but I would do the second one this way: dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=<iso file size/2048> | md5sum to prevent errors from trying to read past the end of the device. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

May 1, 2003

CD burning question...

by Bill Mills-Curran

If I burn a CD from an ISO, should I be able to duplicate the MD5SUM: md5sum file.iso md5sum /dev/scd0 Right? (I think I'm getting some errors while burning.) Thanks, Bill

May 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Stephen C. Daukas

By way of FYI... In all of my digging, I have found a fair bit of information regarding phpnuke, most of it bad. Forgetting about robustness of code and security issues, it would seem that many of the folks involved with phpnuke left in protest to form postnuke. The few email conversations I have had indicate three issues with phpnuke: 1. The person responsible began representing the contributing developers code as his own. This caused susch a stir that the contributing developers went to the mandrake CEO to force the issue of giving credit to the developers. (Apparently mandrake has a hand in this in some way that isn't clear to me.) As a result, the word on the street is that development on phpnuke has dwindled... 2. Really bad security holes. Examples include chmod everything to 777 in the n-1 version, to security scripts being easily hacked (and owned by user nobody), to certain pages being endowed with super-user priveledges - all you had to do was enter the URL and you were in. Some claim phpnuke is fixed, others claim there are still major problems... My recent experiences with phpnuke where I work suggest the criticism is valid. 3. The last issue is a bit fuzzy. There are those who were reportedly involved with the development of phpnuke who claim that the "author" has "interesting ideas" about GPL and, according to them, believe that phpnuke in the future may no loger remain GPL. So, looks like postnuke has picked up where phpnuke left off? The dig continues... ;-) Steve

May 1, 2003

Re: Wlug digest, Vol 1 #576 - 4 msgs

by Arturo

Cool little set of scripts. They even come with that funky Desktop icon. What a luxury! Working through the scripts though it seems that the USB system does not see the USB device properly. Looking through some posts it looks like there is light at the end of the tunnel. Kernel 2.4.21 will have the updated usbnet patch that will allow communication with the 5600. I expect I'll be able to make some minor mods to the zaurus_check script and it should work like a charm. Thanks! Arturo > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: John Murphy <jfmurphy(a)charter.net> > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Does anyone have experience with the Zaurus 5600 and linux? > Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:27:30 -0400 > charset="iso-8859-1" > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > On Sunday 27 April 2003 18:00, Arturo wrote: > > From the looks of it, 5600 connectivity through usbnet is still pretty > > bleeding edge. Has anyone out there gotten the Zaurus SL-5600 connected > > with a linux desktop? > > > > Sharp was not kind in getting compatibility with linux. Anyhow, if > > anyone has any pointers let me know. > > > > Thanks > > Arturo > > I have 5500 with Suse 8.2, sync with Qtopia running the Sharp package. Have > been using right along in Suse 8.1, just installed it the other day with Suse > 8.2. If you have trouble with Linux look at the file zaurus_check-1.0. > > http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=853 > > I would assume it could be helpful in automating the sync with the desktop for > the 5600. Obviously I don't have a 5600 but this is what worked for me with a > 5500. > > > John > > -- > Arturo <wlug(a)sedo.net>

April 30, 2003

Re: [Wlug] scanners

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Andy Stewart wrote: <snip> AS> I have an Epson 1660 Photo scanner which works perfectly with Linux and Sane. <snip> I now have an Epson 1660, too. But, I can't get sane to recogize it. - It shows up in "lsusb" - sane-find-scanner does not find it - I added "usb /dev/usb/scanner" to /etc/sane.d/epson.conf. That didn't help, so I tried "usb 0x04b8 0x011e". These were the vendor and product codes from lsusb. - I tried "modprobe scanner" and "rmmod scanner" multiple times. - I have not modified /etc/modules.conf. Do I need something? - "chmod 666 /dev/usb/scanner0" I'm running Red Hat 8.0. Any ideas? TIA, Bill

April 30, 2003

Re: [Wlug] scanners

by Andy Stewart

On Monday 28 April 2003 9:57 am, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I'm shopping for a linux-compatible scanner, preferrably with USB > connectivity. Any suggestions about models and sources? > > TIA, > Bill I have an Epson 1660 Photo scanner which works perfectly with Linux and Sane. It is my understanding that Epson has been friendly toward the Open Source community with regard to technical information, hence my decision to purchase their product(s). Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

April 29, 2003

RE: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Stephen C. Daukas

That sounds par for the course... It also suggests a two-step approach for nuke: 1. use the default settings to get up and going fairly quickly, and then 2. spend some time looking under the hood and making the changes that both time and desire allow... I guess the only way to really know is to download it! Steve -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of mhughes(a)wpidalamar.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 12:20 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al. Well ... I changed how things work, so I did tinker with the php a lot. But there is a whole theme-system that's pretty in-depth. If you're willing to make a new theme, you can drastically change how things look. Of course most people don't do that and just pick a default theme, so they all look similar. Without working on it, I'm not sure how non-standard you can get for any CMS system. Any installation of a CMS will look like that CMS unless work is done to prevent that. -Marc On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > But, how much can you change things around without having to re-write > all the php? I think it is pretty easy to spot a phpnuke-based site.... > Or, is it just easy to spot a phpnuke-based site that hasn't been > customized > > Then again, I'm willing to live with some of the look-and-feel > limitations if it really is easy to get going... How long did it take > you to get going? > > Steve > > mhughes(a)wpidalamar.com wrote: > > >I've had a great time with phpNuke: > > > >http://www.geek4.com/ > > > >I've spent some time customizing it, but even without that time it's > >an > >excellent package. > > > >-Marc > > > >(ok, maybe this was just a shameless plug for my site instead of a > >useful > >response!) > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 28, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Does anyone have experience with the Zaurus 5600 and linux?

by John Murphy

On Sunday 27 April 2003 18:00, Arturo wrote: > From the looks of it, 5600 connectivity through usbnet is still pretty > bleeding edge. Has anyone out there gotten the Zaurus SL-5600 connected > with a linux desktop? > > Sharp was not kind in getting compatibility with linux. Anyhow, if > anyone has any pointers let me know. > > Thanks > Arturo I have 5500 with Suse 8.2, sync with Qtopia running the Sharp package. Have been using right along in Suse 8.1, just installed it the other day with Suse 8.2. If you have trouble with Linux look at the file zaurus_check-1.0. http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=853 I would assume it could be helpful in automating the sync with the desktop for the 5600. Obviously I don't have a 5600 but this is what worked for me with a 5500. John

April 28, 2003

Re: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by mhughes＠wpidalamar.com

Well ... I changed how things work, so I did tinker with the php a lot. But there is a whole theme-system that's pretty in-depth. If you're willing to make a new theme, you can drastically change how things look. Of course most people don't do that and just pick a default theme, so they all look similar. Without working on it, I'm not sure how non-standard you can get for any CMS system. Any installation of a CMS will look like that CMS unless work is done to prevent that. -Marc On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > But, how much can you change things around without having to re-write > all the php? I think it is pretty easy to spot a phpnuke-based site.... > Or, is it just easy to spot a phpnuke-based site that hasn't been > customized? > > Then again, I'm willing to live with some of the look-and-feel > limitations if it really is easy to get going... How long did it take > you to get going? > > Steve > > mhughes(a)wpidalamar.com wrote: > > >I've had a great time with phpNuke: > > > >http://www.geek4.com/ > > > >I've spent some time customizing it, but even without that time it's an > >excellent package. > > > >-Marc > > > >(ok, maybe this was just a shameless plug for my site instead of a useful > >response!) > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

April 28, 2003

Re: [Wlug] scanners

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Frank Sweetser wrote: <snip> FS> On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 09:57:26AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: FS> > I'm shopping for a linux-compatible scanner, preferrably with USB FS> > connectivity. Any suggestions about models and sources? FS> FS> A good place to start might be at the Sane (scanner access made easy) driver FS> compatability list FS> FS> http://www.mostang.com/sane/sane-backends.html FS> FS> -- FS> Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu FS> WPI Network Engineer <snip> Frank, I should have mentioned that I did start there. There are at least as many unsupported scanners in that list as supported scanners. My first shopping trip (to Staples in Westborough) yielded no supported scanners in the low-cost range. (I know that Staples is not the best place to look, but it's close to me.) Thanks, Bill

April 28, 2003

Re: [Wlug] scanners

by Frank Sweetser

On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 09:57:26AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I'm shopping for a linux-compatible scanner, preferrably with USB > connectivity. Any suggestions about models and sources? A good place to start might be at the Sane (scanner access made easy) driver compatability list http://www.mostang.com/sane/sane-backends.html -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer

April 28, 2003

scanners

by Bill Mills-Curran

I'm shopping for a linux-compatible scanner, preferrably with USB connectivity. Any suggestions about models and sources? TIA, Bill

April 28, 2003

Re: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Stephen C. Daukas

But, how much can you change things around without having to re-write all the php? I think it is pretty easy to spot a phpnuke-based site.... Or, is it just easy to spot a phpnuke-based site that hasn't been customized? Then again, I'm willing to live with some of the look-and-feel limitations if it really is easy to get going... How long did it take you to get going? Steve mhughes(a)wpidalamar.com wrote: >I've had a great time with phpNuke: > >http://www.geek4.com/ > >I've spent some time customizing it, but even without that time it's an >excellent package. > >-Marc > >(ok, maybe this was just a shameless plug for my site instead of a useful >response!) > > >

April 28, 2003

RE: FW: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Michael Long

Zope does have a fairly steep learning curve. The biggest advantage it has is python. Since zope is written in python you can create "products" fairly quickly using existing building blocks. These building blocks handle most of the security for you. Now that I crossed over the hump of the learning curve I can implement a new object in less than a day. This includes all the programing to fully integrate it into my "product" and creation of the presentation layer to add, modify and delete the object. There is a Boston Zope Users Group (bzug), but it has been very quite lately. I have also spent a week at zope hq for training. You may contact me directly if you would like to discuss this further. hth, mike On Sun, 2003-04-27 at 20:38, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > I've spent some time looking over the links and google... Zope looks > like it could be the ticket, but I have to do more digging. The reviews > from this winter basically say that it is a fair bit of work to get > going. For example, if you want to use Apache, you have to do some > specific integration becuause Zope comes with its own http server... > > Then there is the issue of having to learn yet another GD little > language - pyhton. Not that I have anything against it, but it is yet > another langauge to learn and what I wanted was to not have to do that. > > Now, this is all based on two days of surfing, so I may be all wet... > > Maybe there is enough Zope folk out there to represent an opportunity to > get a quasi sub group of WLUG? > > By the way - know anything about midgard, a LAMP-based system? > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Michael Long > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 1:56 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: FW: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al. > > > FWIW, I am currently using zope to develop a website and like it very > much. > > --mike > > On Sat, 2003-04-26 at 12:21, Brett Russ wrote: > > OOPS, hit ctrl-enter by mistake. Continued below... > > > > > I'm anxious to hear anyone's feedback on this issue because I would > > > like to break out of the nuke mold because every nuke site pretty > > > much looks and feels the same. > > > > I'm going to look into migrating to Zope. This site lists a bunch of > > CMS's, see the listings under Open Source: > > > > http://www.cmswatch.com/ContentManagement/Products/ > > > > I like what I saw so far on Zope, and there have been recent articles > > about it in Linux Journal (or Magazine...). > > > > Example sites here: > > http://www.zope.org/Resources/ZopePowered > > > > BR > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Michael Long <mlong(a)datalong.com>

April 28, 2003

Re: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by mhughes＠wpidalamar.com

I've had a great time with phpNuke: http://www.geek4.com/ I've spent some time customizing it, but even without that time it's an excellent package. -Marc (ok, maybe this was just a shameless plug for my site instead of a useful response!) On Fri, 25 Apr 2003, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > I'm posing this question becuase I'm betting some on this list have > ventured down the path before me... > > I'm looking to avoid having to keep up on the latest and greatest web > development stuff just to have a useful an interesting site. So, I'm > looking for something like phpnuke to convert over to. I am aware of > phpnuke, and other similar packages out there. I'm planning on > downloading nuke to see what it can and can't do... > > I wouldn't mind having control over things providing I have the time, > but am to the point where I do not want ot have to write code every time > I get an idea. I already have a job... > > So, anyone have a favorite tool, collection of tools, etc., that they > would recommend for a person site that supports logins, discussion > threads, etc.? > > Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

April 28, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Toshiba e330 + Linux

by Karl Hiramoto

The e330 uses the Intel ARM Xscale processor. This cpu is supported by the arm linux people. However, getting Linux loaded on this platform may be pretty hard. Would involve cross compiling a kernel, setting up a file system, and getting the thing to boot. Depends if Toshiba supports it. I believe Compaq semi supports the pocket PC Linux, but i have no personal experience with it. I would recommend against it, unless you really know what your doing, or want to do some hacking and you don't mind trashing your e330's existing filesystem. If your interested, i would google for "arm linux xscale" and start at the ARM linux page: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ On 27 Apr 2003, Chuck Haines wrote: > Hrm, perhaps I forgot to mention that it is a PDA, not a laptop. > > Chuck > > On Sun, 2003-04-27 at 19:32, Andy Stewart wrote: > > On Sunday 27 April 2003 9:11 am, Chuck Haines wrote: > > > I've had a Toshiba e330 for about 3 months now, however it runs windows > > > and I can't interface it with my linux machine. I was curious if anyone > > > had any information regarding putting linux on one of these babies. I > > > plan to get a wireless card and GPS adaptor for it soon, so how would > > > that affect it. Any help would be much appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chuck > > > > Hi Chuck, > > > > Although I didn't see your specific model, you might try this website for more > > information: > > > > http://www.linux-laptop.net/ > > > > Later, > > > > Andy > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø You are going to have a new love affair.

April 28, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Toshiba e330 + Linux

by Andy Stewart

On Sunday 27 April 2003 9:53 pm, Chuck Haines wrote: > Hrm, perhaps I forgot to mention that it is a PDA, not a laptop. Gee, maybe that's why its not on the laptop page...Doh! Sorry, I guess I've been smoking someting...wanna share ?! :-) -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

April 28, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Toshiba e330 + Linux

by Chuck Haines

Hrm, perhaps I forgot to mention that it is a PDA, not a laptop. Chuck On Sun, 2003-04-27 at 19:32, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Sunday 27 April 2003 9:11 am, Chuck Haines wrote: > > I've had a Toshiba e330 for about 3 months now, however it runs windows > > and I can't interface it with my linux machine. I was curious if anyone > > had any information regarding putting linux on one of these babies. I > > plan to get a wireless card and GPS adaptor for it soon, so how would > > that affect it. Any help would be much appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > Hi Chuck, > > Although I didn't see your specific model, you might try this website for more > information: > > http://www.linux-laptop.net/ > > Later, > > Andy -- ==================================== Chuck Haines chaines(a)wpi.edu http://www.linux-xtreme.net ==================================== WPI ECE Systems Administrator WPI Game Development Club Developer WPI Linux Association Lab Manager Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-IT Systems Administrator ==================================== AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ====================================

April 28, 2003

Anyone know anything about midgard?

by Stephen C. Daukas

This is a Zope or phpnuke type set-up. it is LAMP-based (Linux, Apache, mySQL, perl/php)... Steve

April 28, 2003

RE: FW: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Stephen C. Daukas

I've spent some time looking over the links and google... Zope looks like it could be the ticket, but I have to do more digging. The reviews from this winter basically say that it is a fair bit of work to get going. For example, if you want to use Apache, you have to do some specific integration becuause Zope comes with its own http server... Then there is the issue of having to learn yet another GD little language - pyhton. Not that I have anything against it, but it is yet another langauge to learn and what I wanted was to not have to do that. Now, this is all based on two days of surfing, so I may be all wet... Maybe there is enough Zope folk out there to represent an opportunity to get a quasi sub group of WLUG? By the way - know anything about midgard, a LAMP-based system? Steve -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Michael Long Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 1:56 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: FW: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al. FWIW, I am currently using zope to develop a website and like it very much. --mike On Sat, 2003-04-26 at 12:21, Brett Russ wrote: > OOPS, hit ctrl-enter by mistake. Continued below... > > > I'm anxious to hear anyone's feedback on this issue because I would > > like to break out of the nuke mold because every nuke site pretty > > much looks and feels the same. > > I'm going to look into migrating to Zope. This site lists a bunch of > CMS's, see the listings under Open Source: > > http://www.cmswatch.com/ContentManagement/Products/ > > I like what I saw so far on Zope, and there have been recent articles > about it in Linux Journal (or Magazine...). > > Example sites here: > http://www.zope.org/Resources/ZopePowered > > BR > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Michael Long <mlong(a)datalong.com> _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 28, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Toshiba e330 + Linux

by Andy Stewart

On Sunday 27 April 2003 9:11 am, Chuck Haines wrote: > I've had a Toshiba e330 for about 3 months now, however it runs windows > and I can't interface it with my linux machine. I was curious if anyone > had any information regarding putting linux on one of these babies. I > plan to get a wireless card and GPS adaptor for it soon, so how would > that affect it. Any help would be much appreciated. > > Thanks, > Chuck Hi Chuck, Although I didn't see your specific model, you might try this website for more information: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

April 27, 2003

Does anyone have experience with the Zaurus 5600 and linux?

by Arturo

>From the looks of it, 5600 connectivity through usbnet is still pretty bleeding edge. Has anyone out there gotten the Zaurus SL-5600 connected with a linux desktop? Sharp was not kind in getting compatibility with linux. Anyhow, if anyone has any pointers let me know. Thanks Arturo -- Arturo <postgres(a)sedo.net>

April 27, 2003

Re: FW: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Michael Long

FWIW, I am currently using zope to develop a website and like it very much. --mike On Sat, 2003-04-26 at 12:21, Brett Russ wrote: > OOPS, hit ctrl-enter by mistake. Continued below... > > > I'm anxious to hear anyone's feedback on this issue because I > > would like to > > break out of the nuke mold because every nuke site pretty much looks and > > feels the same. > > I'm going to look into migrating to Zope. This site lists a bunch of CMS's, > see the listings under Open Source: > > http://www.cmswatch.com/ContentManagement/Products/ > > I like what I saw so far on Zope, and there have been recent articles about > it in Linux Journal (or Magazine...). > > Example sites here: > http://www.zope.org/Resources/ZopePowered > > BR > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Michael Long <mlong(a)datalong.com>

April 27, 2003

Toshiba e330 + Linux

by Chuck Haines

I've had a Toshiba e330 for about 3 months now, however it runs windows and I can't interface it with my linux machine. I was curious if anyone had any information regarding putting linux on one of these babies. I plan to get a wireless card and GPS adaptor for it soon, so how would that affect it. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Chuck -- ==================================== Chuck Haines chaines(a)wpi.edu http://www.linux-xtreme.net ==================================== WPI ECE Systems Administrator WPI Game Development Club Developer WPI Linux Association Lab Manager Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-IT Systems Administrator ==================================== AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ====================================

April 27, 2003

FW: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Brett Russ

OOPS, hit ctrl-enter by mistake. Continued below... > I'm anxious to hear anyone's feedback on this issue because I > would like to > break out of the nuke mold because every nuke site pretty much looks and > feels the same. I'm going to look into migrating to Zope. This site lists a bunch of CMS's, see the listings under Open Source: http://www.cmswatch.com/ContentManagement/Products/ I like what I saw so far on Zope, and there have been recent articles about it in Linux Journal (or Magazine...). Example sites here: http://www.zope.org/Resources/ZopePowered BR

April 26, 2003

RE: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Brett Russ

> I'm anxious to hear anyone's feedback on this issue because I > would like to > break out of the nuke mold because every nuke site pretty much looks and > feels the same. I'm going to look into migrating to Zope. This site lists a bunch of CMS's, see the listings under Open Source:

April 26, 2003

RE: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Brett Russ

> So, anyone have a favorite tool, collection of tools, etc., that they > would recommend for a person site that supports logins, discussion > threads, etc.? I use/maintain a phpnuke site and it works OK but my biggest complaint about all these CMS's is how fragmented the support, documentation, add-on downloads, etc are for at least phpnuke and postnuke. Check out http://www.opencms.org in your search too, but even this does not impress me too much. I'm anxious to hear anyone's feedback on this issue because I would like to break out of the nuke mold because every nuke site pretty much looks and feels the same. BR

April 26, 2003

A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Stephen C. Daukas

I'm posing this question becuase I'm betting some on this list have ventured down the path before me... I'm looking to avoid having to keep up on the latest and greatest web development stuff just to have a useful an interesting site. So, I'm looking for something like phpnuke to convert over to. I am aware of phpnuke, and other similar packages out there. I'm planning on downloading nuke to see what it can and can't do... I wouldn't mind having control over things providing I have the time, but am to the point where I do not want ot have to write code every time I get an idea. I already have a job... So, anyone have a favorite tool, collection of tools, etc., that they would recommend for a person site that supports logins, discussion threads, etc.? Steve

April 25, 2003

Re: [Wlug] RH9 and MySQL

by Bill Smith

On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:58:15 -0400 "Charles R. Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: CRA> wsmith> I'm looking to see if the latest MySQL release CRA> wsmith> (4.x) is included... CRA> CRA> mysql-3.23.54a-11.i386.rpm Thanks for the quick answer! I guess i'll be grabbing 4.x after i upgrade... :) ttyl... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein * TAG! v3.1 *

April 24, 2003

Re: [Wlug] freeswan

by Wes Allen

On Wednesday 23 April 2003 8:41 am, mhughes(a)wpidalamar.com wrote: > I think you actually might want a vpn between networks ... If you > put your wireless network behind a firewall, and then only allow ipsec > through it onto your home lan (and I assume onto the internet eventually). > Then your vpn uses the wireless network as the untrusted network (instead > of using the internet as the untrusted network). Anyone not on the VPN > can't get any packets onto the rest of your network. > > This does 2 things. > 1) Encryption like you want so people can't see what you're doing. > 2) Authentication - so only authorized people on the VPN can access > anything on the rest of the network. > > This could be a lot stronger protection than WEP gives you. Of course > I've never actually done this, but there was an article I read a while > back suggesting it, perhaps it's in the Linux Journal archives. Thanks, I'll look into it... Wes > > -Marc > > On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Wes Allen wrote: > > Is anyone out there using freeswan? > > > > I'm thinking of repeating my wireless network over to my office after my > > move and I'm thinking of setting up freeswan to encrypt the traffic more > > tightly on the network when I do. > > > > The howto's I've found have been on setting up a vpn between networks, is > > it possible to set up freeswan to encrypt traffic on a single lan (until > > sdmca laws make it technically illegal to do so.....). > > > > Wes > > -- > > ------ > > This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please > > send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

April 24, 2003

Re: [Wlug] RH9 and MySQL

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 06:33:34PM +0500, Bill Smith wrote: wsmith> I checked out the RH website, but i didn't get any useful information. wsmith> I'm looking to see if the latest MySQL release (4.x) is included... mysql-3.23.54a-11.i386.rpm -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

April 23, 2003

RH9 and MySQL

by Bill Smith

Anyone know off-hand what version(s) of MySQL is available with the RH9 installation? I checked out the RH website, but i didn't get any useful information. I'm looking to see if the latest MySQL release (4.x) is included... Thanks for any information... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com We're all vertebrates here... Show some BACKBONE! * TAG! v3.1 *

April 23, 2003

Re: [Wlug] freeswan

by mhughes＠wpidalamar.com

I think you actually might want a vpn between networks ... If you put your wireless network behind a firewall, and then only allow ipsec through it onto your home lan (and I assume onto the internet eventually). Then your vpn uses the wireless network as the untrusted network (instead of using the internet as the untrusted network). Anyone not on the VPN can't get any packets onto the rest of your network. This does 2 things. 1) Encryption like you want so people can't see what you're doing. 2) Authentication - so only authorized people on the VPN can access anything on the rest of the network. This could be a lot stronger protection than WEP gives you. Of course I've never actually done this, but there was an article I read a while back suggesting it, perhaps it's in the Linux Journal archives. -Marc On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Wes Allen wrote: > Is anyone out there using freeswan? > > I'm thinking of repeating my wireless network over to my office after my move > and I'm thinking of setting up freeswan to encrypt the traffic more tightly > on the network when I do. > > The howto's I've found have been on setting up a vpn between networks, is it > possible to set up freeswan to encrypt traffic on a single lan (until sdmca > laws make it technically illegal to do so.....). > > Wes > -- > ------ > This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please > send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >

April 23, 2003

freeswan

by Wes Allen

Is anyone out there using freeswan? I'm thinking of repeating my wireless network over to my office after my move and I'm thinking of setting up freeswan to encrypt the traffic more tightly on the network when I do. The howto's I've found have been on setting up a vpn between networks, is it possible to set up freeswan to encrypt traffic on a single lan (until sdmca laws make it technically illegal to do so.....). Wes -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

April 23, 2003

Re: [Wlug] WLUG meeting - can someone post a summary?

by mhughes＠wpidalamar.com

Oooooh, one with a hardware encoder/decoder! When you get it working, please let us know how well it works. (Espically if you get the hardware encoding working) -Marc On Fri, 18 Apr 2003, Andy Stewart wrote: > > In fact, I found the talk so interesting that I just went out and bought the > Hauppauge PVR-350. When it shows up, I'll have somthing with which to play. > The MythTV website said that the CVS version of their software now (mostly) > works with this card. We'll see... :-) > > It was a good talk! Thanks, Tim! > > Andy >

April 21, 2003

Re: [Wlug] WLUG meeting - can someone post a summary?

by Andy Stewart

On Friday 18 April 2003 1:41 pm, John Stoffel wrote: > Hi all, > > Can someone post a summary of the presentation on the Digital Video > Recorder Tim did earlier this week? I'm interested in learning more, > but I wasn't able to make the meeting. > > John HI John et al, I posted a brief summary on the WLUG website, under Past Meeting Information. If anybody wants to embelish the description, please send me your suggestions and I'll post them. In fact, I found the talk so interesting that I just went out and bought the Hauppauge PVR-350. When it shows up, I'll have somthing with which to play. The MythTV website said that the CVS version of their software now (mostly) works with this card. We'll see... :-) It was a good talk! Thanks, Tim! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

April 19, 2003

Re: [Wlug] WLUG meeting - can someone post a summary?

by Brett Russ

John Stoffel wrote: > Can someone post a summary of the presentation on the Digital Video > Recorder Tim did earlier this week? I'm interested in learning more, > but I wasn't able to make the meeting. Ditto! Did he use Freevo? I have an ATI AIW video card with TV tuner and am looking to install the latest SuSE and get this baby up and running with (among other things) digital video recording capabilties. Coulda/shoulda/woulda gone to the meeting but was working :-( thanks, Brett

April 18, 2003

WLUG meeting - can someone post a summary?

by John Stoffel

Hi all, Can someone post a summary of the presentation on the Digital Video Recorder Tim did earlier this week? I'm interested in learning more, but I wasn't able to make the meeting. John

April 18, 2003

wireless repeating...

by Wesley Allen

Hi all, We're MOVING! And now I have an opportunity to learn something new... Where we're going, our house is right next to the Church, and the Church offices are 25 yards from the Church and across the street. The Church is made of stone, the office-building is made of brick. Do you think it's possible to somehow put a repeater in the Church that will extend my wireless network the "last mile" so I can have internet access in my study? If so, what would you recommend? I know I'll have to set up a VPN for all my clients so traffic is in the clear on the network, but what hardware would allow me to do this? Wes -- Wesley Allen <wallen(a)charter.net>

April 18, 2003

Re: [Wlug] ati mobility m6

by Charles R. Anderson

That's a Radeon chipset, so: Driver "radeon" -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

April 16, 2003

Re:[Wlug] gentoo

by vapier＠netzero.com

> What's people's experience with gentoo? it's a beautiful distro :) > I'm thinking of upgrading one of my boxes to it in the near future. This is a box I really mess around with, so how bleeding edge can I get? well ... lets just say we have had ebuilds for kde, gnome, openoffice, and xfree sometimes weeks before it was officially released ... we also have ebuilds that'll pull packages from cvs ... how much more bleeding edge can you want ? :) > Is it easy to keep some packages at stable releases, and some at unstable, or is it more of an all or nothing thing? at the moment you can run a stable profile which should be pretty stable or you can run unstable (and get all the benefits mentioned above) ... it isnt that easy to maintain a cross of the two at the moment, but portage-2.1.x should take care of that ... > I guess what I want is, a way of trying the newest stuff, but an easy way of going back to stable when I'm horrified with how buggy the newest stuff is. its easy to do that, but after the new emerge you may have to do some trickery to keep portage from re-emerging the stable version ... > Also... for the stable releases... how secure has the distro been as a whole? we have a list of all the GLSA's we've ever released ... we release a GLSA as soon as a bug has been identified and fixed ... we then bump anything security related out of the tree and mark the latest security enhanced version as stable ... for the people who want a system that *only* upgrades security related packages, then we're currently developing a system for that ... again wait till portage-2.1.x to see that ;) -mike ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today!

April 16, 2003

ati mobility m6

by Baris Hasdemir

hi Wlug, I have a laptop gateway 450sx4 with a video card, "ATI Technologies Inc. Mobility M6", as windows displays it. I could not figure which kernel video module I should load. another question is that what will go to the Driver section of XF86Config in xfree4.3.0? slackware uses vesa as default which does not use any hardware acceleration. thanks for any help, baris

April 16, 2003

Re: [Wlug] gentoo

by Chuck Haines

Well I ran gentoo back before it was even 1.0. I've kept track of it over that last year (running redhat myself since I administer all redhat machines), and it has progressed nicley. My roomate swears by gentoo. My biggest problem with gentoo is having to compile everything. Now for most things, I don't mind compiling, however something like XFree or Mozilla, on a slower machine (even a faster one), you will be compiling for days (fortunately I have access to a quad xeon which makes compiling a ton faster). As far as the portage system goes, I believe there is now a way to distinguish whether you want bleeding edge, less bleeding edge, or stable. I actually loved the portage system (and wish redhat had something similar). I'd say try it and see if it suits you. If not, you can always try something else. Chuck On 2003.04.15 14:18 Marc Hughes wrote: > > What's people's experience with gentoo? I'm thinking of upgrading one > of > my boxes to it in the near future. This is a box I really mess around > > with, so how bleeding edge can I get? Is it easy to keep some > packages at > stable releases, and some at unstable, or is it more of an all or > nothing > thing? I guess what I want is, a way of trying the newest stuff, but > an > easy way of going back to stable when I'm horrified with how buggy the > > newest stuff is. > > Also... for the stable releases... how secure has the distro been as a > > whole? > > Comments, horror stories, massive praise? > > -Marc > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > ==================================== Chuck Haines chaines(a)wpi.edu http://www.linux-xtreme.net ==================================== WPI ECE Systems Administrator WPI Game Development Club Developer WPI Linux Association Lab Manager Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-IT Systems Administrator ==================================== AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ====================================

April 16, 2003

gentoo

by Marc Hughes

What's people's experience with gentoo? I'm thinking of upgrading one of my boxes to it in the near future. This is a box I really mess around with, so how bleeding edge can I get? Is it easy to keep some packages at stable releases, and some at unstable, or is it more of an all or nothing thing? I guess what I want is, a way of trying the newest stuff, but an easy way of going back to stable when I'm horrified with how buggy the newest stuff is. Also... for the stable releases... how secure has the distro been as a whole? Comments, horror stories, massive praise? -Marc

April 15, 2003

printing problem

by Bill Mills-Curran

I'm trying to configure my LPRng print queue to add a banner page to my print job. OS: Red Hat 8.0 Printer/driver: The printer is a Postscript network printer, using the Lexmark 4039 10 plus driver. I'm able to print just fine. I followed the instructions in /usr/share/doc/redhat-config-printer-0.4.24/README for hijacking a printconf spool. Then I added this to the printcap.local: :bp=/usr/libexec/filters/psbanner:\ However, I can't get the a banner page. What am I doing wrong? TIA, Bill

April 15, 2003

RE: [Wlug] computer fair

by George Metz

> -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On > Behalf Of Gary Hanley > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:13 PM > To: wlug > Subject: Re: [Wlug] computer fair > > Those computer shows are nothing like they used to be, and that is > not because the shows have changed but more because the PC market has. (Snip) > Now that the market is in a slump and the shelf life for the latest > and greatest hardware is probably 6 months, you can't get the deals > at these shows that you once could. And also because there is so much > competition at the hardware manufacturing level (motherboards, graphics > cards, memory and now even CPUs) the margins are fraction of what they > once were. Specifically about the Worcester show, which I went to not long ago, I picked up a Duron 1.3GHz to upgrade my system. Stupid me, the board didn't like it, and I THINK reinstalling the old one killed it (the old CPU, not the board, but I can't be sure.) I thought it was the board at the time, so I took the Duron back for a refund the next weekend in Nashua, and started poking around for a board that took SDRAM. I only found two, one had two SDRAM and two DDR slots - which would've forced me to lose a healthy chunk of mem - and an MSI board. That I ended up having to go to Manchester the next day to get a replacement on. Be leery of buying extensive hardware at shows, make very sure you get a receipt. Asking to see if the static bag is sealed beforehand isn't a bad idea either. You'll either find new stuff, or very old stuff; the in-between isn't very common at all. Personally, I'd rather just run down to Connecticut and hit one of the Cogan shows, as they've got far more vendors than I've seen at any of the Northern shows (don't know about KGP) and that means a far better selection.

April 14, 2003

REMINDER: WLUG Meeting Wed. April 16, 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, which will be held on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus. At this meeting, WLUG member Tim Keller will discuss how he used open source software to build a Digital Video Recorder (similar in function to the commercially available TiVO device). After the meeting, there will be a free (as in beer) raffle, and a trip to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. I look forward to seeing you there! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

April 14, 2003

RE: [Wlug] computer fair

by Stephen C. Daukas

I have never had a problem using a credit card at these shows... They do add a 3-6% fee, depending on the card you want to use, so it is better to have cash... Yes, the deals are not what they used to be on current systems, but I have gotten some very good deals on components. Last show I went to, my father-in-law picked up a perfectly good motherboard for $20 and the show before that, I picked up three 8-port switches for a total of $40. Not too shabby! Here is what my shortcuts have for the shows: KGP is the outfit who runs the Marlborough show on Rt 20. Their URL is http://www.pcshow.com The last show I went to at the Centrum was run by NCS (I think) http://www.ncshows.com Basically, they are the same... About a dozen vendors selling "custom systems", as many again selling components, then a whole bunch selling shrink-wrapped stuff you can see in any independent computer shop (video, speakers, cables, etc.). The final category is software (educational or games) and books - but don't pass these over... I have seen some very good prices on the odd piece of hardware at these otherwise skippable tables... Steve

April 12, 2003

Re: [Wlug] computer fair

by Andy Stewart

The computer show in Marlboro is run by a company called KGP productions, whose website is: http://www.pcshow.com The show in Worcester is run by a company called Northern Computer Shows, and their website is: http://www.ncshows.com If you look hard enough, you can occasionally find a good deal if you know what you're doing. Beware the vendor who will accept your check but wants to take your credit card number "as insurance" in case the check bounces (that practice is expressly forbidden by MA consumer protection law, but most out of state vendors don't know or care). As has been mentioned, cash is the way to go since credit cards will be taken, but with some percentage added (generally 3-5%). Only once did I ever have to take something back, so get a receipt. Be sure to say "hi" to the occasional vendor selling Linux! Later, Andy > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

April 12, 2003

Re: [Wlug] computer fair

by Michael Long

I agree things have changed alot. I went to the fair at the Boston Expo Center last month and came home with a desktop machine and a laptop. The deal I got on the desktop was ok. It was basically street price...or should I say cyber price:) ...for a machine purchased online. However I was amazed at the selection of refurbished laptops. I got an IBM Thinkpad T22 for $750 and it is still under warrenty!! Happy shopping, Mike On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 15:12, Gary Hanley wrote: > Those computer shows are nothing like they used to be, and that is > not because the shows have changed but more because the PC market has. > > Back when the PC market was exploding with high demand and expensive > performance parts these shows were a great way for vendors to unload > excess and refurbished inventory...and most times you could get very > good deals without looking too hard. > > Now that the market is in a slump and the shelf life for the latest > and greatest hardware is probably 6 months, you can't get the deals > at these shows that you once could. And also because there is so much > competition at the hardware manufacturing level (motherboards, graphics > cards, memory and now even CPUs) the margins are fraction of what they > once were. > > But not to say you can't still buy at them. They are a great place to find > replacement hardware or slightly outdated hardware as needed, but for me > if I'm going to build something new I usually buy all the hardware from an > on-line vendor like newegg.com. The savings, if any, from a computer > show is not enough to warrant the risk of flaky or failed hardware. > > YMMV, of course. > > -- Gary > > On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Baris Hasdemir wrote: > > hi, > > I heard of two computer fairs? or something similar... will take place in > > malborough this weekend and another one in worcester, again, will take > > place this weekend. does anybody know anything about them? > > do such fairs worth seeing? where are they held? a web page if possible? > > thanks, > > baris > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Michael Long <mlong(a)datalong.com>

April 11, 2003

Re: [Wlug] computer fair

by Gary Hanley

Those computer shows are nothing like they used to be, and that is not because the shows have changed but more because the PC market has. Back when the PC market was exploding with high demand and expensive performance parts these shows were a great way for vendors to unload excess and refurbished inventory...and most times you could get very good deals without looking too hard. Now that the market is in a slump and the shelf life for the latest and greatest hardware is probably 6 months, you can't get the deals at these shows that you once could. And also because there is so much competition at the hardware manufacturing level (motherboards, graphics cards, memory and now even CPUs) the margins are fraction of what they once were. But not to say you can't still buy at them. They are a great place to find replacement hardware or slightly outdated hardware as needed, but for me if I'm going to build something new I usually buy all the hardware from an on-line vendor like newegg.com. The savings, if any, from a computer show is not enough to warrant the risk of flaky or failed hardware. YMMV, of course. -- Gary On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Baris Hasdemir wrote: > hi, > I heard of two computer fairs? or something similar... will take place in > malborough this weekend and another one in worcester, again, will take > place this weekend. does anybody know anything about them? > do such fairs worth seeing? where are they held? a web page if possible? > thanks, > baris

April 11, 2003

Re: [Wlug] computer fair

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Baris Hasdemir wrote: BH> I heard of two computer fairs? or something similar... will take place in BH> malborough this weekend and another one in worcester, again, will take BH> place this weekend. does anybody know anything about them? BH> BH> do such fairs worth seeing? where are they held? a web page if possible? http://www.pcshow.com/ (Marlborough computer fair by KGP) don't know about the Worcester one... when I went to one of these a few years ago, only if you were doing an order could you purchase with a credit card. (the vendors did not have telephone access so couldn't scan in the cards.) usually there would be a 3% fee added for credit purchases. There wasn't an ATM there, so either show up with cash if you plan on purchasing things, or an in-state checkbook. and since there are several vendors about, check prices between several places before buying something, and haggle down if you can.

April 11, 2003

computer fair

by Baris Hasdemir

hi, I heard of two computer fairs? or something similar... will take place in malborough this weekend and another one in worcester, again, will take place this weekend. does anybody know anything about them? do such fairs worth seeing? where are they held? a web page if possible? thanks, baris

April 11, 2003

WLUG MEETING: April 16th, 2003

by Andy Stewart

Hi everybody, I'd like to tantalize you with an announcement about the next meeting. :-) It will be held on Wednesday, April 16th at 7:00 PM in "the usual place". WLUG member Tim Keller will be discussing how he took Linux and other Open Source software to create his own Digital Video Recorder (DVR) similar to a TiVO. Tim will describe just what a DVR is and how it works. Tim will also discuss software issues, and finally will perform a live demo. I've just updated the website. I'll send out a reminder this weekend. I hope to see many of you in attendance! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

April 8, 2003

Job for Summer

by bryon3245＠netzero.com

This is a open letter to all employers. I am currently a sophomore at Westfield State College. I am majoring in Business with a minor in Computer Information Science. I am looking for a fun and challenging job for the summer that has to do with computers because I enjoy working with them, and I am also quite knowledgeable about the physical hardwarenecessary for them to work and also the software that the parts interact with. I have also been using Linux for over a year now. currently I am running Gentoo on my Laptop. If you have any positions available in the Worcester area or would like any additional information about me, I can be contacted at bryon3245(a)netzero.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

April 8, 2003

Intern Job

by Karl Hiramoto

Any students looking for a summer programming job? http://jobs.accusense.com/programmer-analyist-intern.html Only bad part is you have to work for me ;-) -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø The attacker must vanquish; the defender need only survive.

April 7, 2003

Red Hat Linux 9 now officially available

by Charles R. Anderson

Everyone can get it here: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/9 ISO's, FTP installations, individual packages, and docs. Release Notes: Red Hat Linux 9 Release Notes Copyright (c) 2003 Red Hat, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hardware Requirements The following information represents the minimum hardware requirements necessary to successfully install Red Hat Linux 9: CPU: - Minimum: Pentium-class - Recommended for text-mode: 200 MHz Pentium-class or better - Recommended for graphical: 400 MHz Pentium II or better Hard Disk Space (NOTE: Additional space will be required for user data): - Custom Installation (minimum): 475MB - Server (minimum): 850MB - Personal Desktop: 1.7GB - Workstation: 2.1GB - Custom Installation (everything): 5.0GB Memory: - Minimum for text-mode: 64MB - Minimum for graphical: 128MB - Recommended for graphical: 192MB Note that the compatibility/availability of other hardware components (such as video and network cards) may be required for specific installation modes and/or post-installation usage. For more information about hardware compatibility, see the Red Hat Linux Hardware Compatibility List at http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/ Installation-Related Notes This section outlines those issues that are related to Anaconda (the Red Hat Linux installation program) and installing Red Hat Linux 9 in general. o The Red Hat Linux installation program has the ability to test the integrity of the installation media. It works with the CD, DVD, hard drive ISO, and NFS ISO installation methods. Red Hat recommends that you test all installation media before starting the installation process, and before reporting any installation-related bugs (many of the bugs reported are actually due to improperly-burned CDs). To use this test, type linux mediacheck at the boot: prompt. o While most present-day computers are able to start the installation process by booting directly from the first Red Hat Linux distribution CD, some hardware configurations require the use of a boot diskette. If your hardware requires a boot diskette, you should be aware of the following change. Red Hat Linux 9 uses a different boot diskette layout than previous releases of Red Hat Linux. There is now a single boot diskette image file (bootdisk.img) that is used to boot all systems requiring a boot diskette. If you are performing anything other than an installation from an IDE or USB device, you will be asked to insert a driver diskette created from one of the following image files: - drvnet.img - For network installations - drvblock.img - For SCSI installations - pcmciadd.img - For PCMCIA installations As with previous releases of Red Hat Linux, these image files can be found in the images/ directory on the first installation CD. o Also in the images/ directory is the boot.iso file. This file is an ISO image that can be used to boot the Red Hat Linux installation program. It is a handy way to start network-based installations without having to use multiple diskettes. To use boot.iso, your computer must be able to boot from its CD-ROM drive, and its BIOS settings must be configured to do so. You must then burn boot.iso onto a recordable/rewriteable CD-ROM. o The rescue mode environment (accessed by booting with the "linux rescue" boot-time command) has been enhanced. Numerous requested utilities have been added, and there is now support for activating network interfaces. Commands needed for SCSI tape support are also available. Please test this environment and send us your feedback. If you chose to mount an existing installation in rescue mode and you have man pages installed on that existing installation, the man command will work while in rescue mode. o The Red Hat Linux installation program now detects existing Red Hat products on your system, and will prompt you to select the product you would like to upgrade. You will also have the option of performing a complete re-installation of the system instead of upgrading. Please report any problems you may experience with this new feature. If the contents of your /etc/redhat-release file has been changed from the default, your Red Hat Linux installation may not be found when attempting an upgrade to Red Hat Linux 9. You can relax some of the checks against this file by entering the following at the boot: prompt: linux upgradeany Use the upgradeany option only if your existing Red Hat Linux installation was not detected. o isolinux is now used for booting the Red Hat Linux installation CD. If you have problems booting from the CD, you can write the images/bootdisk.img image to a diskette according to the directions in the Red Hat Linux Installation Guide. o During a graphical installation, you can now press SHIFT-Print Screen and a screenshot of the current installation screen will be taken. These are stored in the following directory: /root/anaconda-screenshots/ The screenshots can be accessed once the newly-installed system is rebooted. o The parted disk partition manipulation program has been upgraded to version 1.6. o Users of Red Hat Linux 6.2 that want to upgrade their system to Red Hat Linux 9 must first have all errata updates applied before starting the upgrade process. The most straightforward way to accomplish this is to use Red Hat Network. A Red Hat Linux 6.2 system that is not completely up-to-date will not upgrade successfully to Red Hat Linux 9. o Text mode installations using a serial terminal work best when the terminal supports UTF-8. Under UNIX and Linux, Kermit supports UTF-8. For Windows, Kermit '95 works well. Non-UTF-8 capable terminals will work as long as only English is used during installation. An enhanced serial display can be used by passing "utf8" as a boot-time option to the installation program. For example: linux console=ttyS0 utf8 General Notes This section describes post-installation issues. o There have been issues observed when upgrading Red Hat Linux 6.<x>, 7.<x>, 8.0, and 9 systems running Ximian GNOME. The issue is caused by version overlap between the official Red Hat Linux RPMs and the Ximian RPMs. This configuration is not supported by Red Hat. You have several choices in resolving this issue: 1) You may remove Ximian GNOME from your Red Hat Linux system prior to upgrading Red Hat Linux. 2) You may upgrade Red Hat Linux, and then immediately reinstall Ximian GNOME. 3) You may upgrade Red Hat Linux, and then immediately remove all remaining Ximian RPMs, and replace them with the corresponding Red Hat Linux RPMs. You must resolve the version overlap using one of the above choices. Failure to do so will result in an unstable GNOME configuration. o There has been some confusion regarding font-related issues under the X Window System in recent versions of Red Hat Linux. At the present time, there are two font subsystems, each with different characteristics: - The original (15+ year old) subsystem is referred to as the "core X font subsystem". Fonts rendered by this subsystem are not anti-aliased, are handled by the X server, and have names like: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-100-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1 The newer font subsystem is known as "fontconfig", and allows applications direct access to the font files. Fontconfig is often used along with the "Xft" library, which allows applications to render fontconfig fonts to the screen with antialiasing. Fontconfig uses more human-friendly names like: Luxi Sans-10 Over time, fontconfig/Xft will replace the core X font subsystem. At the present time, applications using the Qt 3 or GTK 2 toolkits (which would include KDE and GNOME applications) use the fontconfig and Xft font subsystem; most everything else uses the core X fonts. In the future, Red Hat may support only fontconfig/Xft in place of the XFS font server as the default local font access method. NOTE: Two exceptions to the font subsystem usage outlined above are OpenOffice.org (which uses its own font rendering technology), and Mozilla (which uses fontconfig, but not GTK 2). If you wish to add new fonts to your Red Hat Linux 9 system, you must be aware that the steps necessary depend on which font subsystem is to use the new fonts. For the core X font subsystem, you must: 1. Create the /usr/share/fonts/local/ directory (if it doesn't already exist): mkdir /usr/share/fonts/local/ If you had to create /usr/share/fonts/local/, you must then add it to the X font server (xfs) path: chkfontpath --add /usr/share/fonts/local/ 2. Copy the new font file into /usr/share/fonts/local/ 3. Update the font information by issuing the following command: ttmkfdir -d /usr/share/fonts/local/ -o /usr/share/fonts/local/fonts.scale 4. Reload the xfs font server using the following command: service xfs reload Adding new fonts to the fontconfig font subsystem is more straightforward; the new font file only needs to be copied into the /usr/share/fonts/ directory (individual users can modify their personal font configuration by copying the font file into the ~/.fonts/ directory). After the new font has been copied, use fc-cache to update the font information cache: fc-cache <directory> (Where <directory> would be either the /usr/share/fonts/ or ~/.fonts/ directories.) Individual users may also install fonts graphically, by browsing fonts:/// in Nautilus, and dragging the new font files there. NOTE: If the font filename ends with ".gz", it has been compressed with gzip, and must be decompressed (with the gunzip command) before the fontconfig font subsystem can use the font. o Due to the transition to the new font system based on fontconfig/Xft, GTK+ 1.2 applications are not affected by any changes made via the Font Preferences dialog. For these applications, a font can be configured by adding the following lines to the file ~/.gtkrc.mine: style "user-font" { fontset = "<font-specification>" } widget_class "*" style "user-font" (Where <font-specification> represents a font specification in the style used by traditional X applications, such as "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*".) o New features in XFree86 include: - Xcursor - New mouse cursor code, allowing color, antialiased, alpha blended (translucency), animated, themeable, multi-size mouse pointers to be used. - ATI Radeon 9000, 9100, FireGL 8700, 8800 3D/2D/Xv support is now available. ATI Radeon 9500 Pro and 9700 Pro, as well as ATI FireGL X1 and Z1 are now supported 2D-only. Support for over 30 additional ATI Rage 128 chipsets have been added to this release, which should cover all existing Rage 128 chipsets now. - Intel i845, i852, i855, and i865 integrated video support (2D/3D/Xvideo), and improved Intel i830 video support. The Intel video driver has been completely restructured and largely rewritten to be much more robust, and support more hardware. Many bugs have been fixed, as well as many workarounds for broken laptop and motherboard BIOSs that limit memory to 1Mb. - New support for NVIDIA GeForce 4, nForce, GeForce 2 Go, and various other NVIDIA hardware. Also, the nv driver has been enhanced to attempt to autodetect unknown NVIDIA chips that aren't officially supported, but can probably be coaxed to work anyway (albeit not officially supported) by treating them similarly to one of the other supported chips in the same family. The nv driver, as in previous releases, remains 2D only. - At the time these release notes were finalized, NVIDIA's binary-only accelerated 3D drivers are not currently compatible with Red Hat Linux 9. NVIDIA is aware of the problem; watch the NVIDIA website for updates regarding this situation. - Updated Savage driver which supports the newest Savage video chipsets, and fixes various bugs. - A brand new driver for the National Semiconductor Geode chipset, nsc, is provided. - Many other video driver updates and improvements have been made. - Many new input drivers including fpit, palmax, ur98 and others have been added. o By default, the Sendmail mail transport agent (MTA) does not accept network connections from any host other than the local computer. If you want to configure Sendmail as a server for other clients, you must edit /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and change the DAEMON_OPTIONS line to also listen on network devices (or comment out this option entirely using the dnl comment delimiter). You must then regenerate /etc/mail/sendmail.cf by running the following command (as root): make -C /etc/mail Note that you must have the sendmail-cf package installed for this to work. o CUPS is now the default print spooler, and redhat-config-printer is the recommended tool for configuring it. It may be launched from the System Settings menu, using the Printing menu entry. LPRng is still provided, and upgrades from previous installations using LPRng will continue to use it. o GNOME Print Manager, a simple graphical print queue management tool, is now included. It may be launched from the System Tools menu, using the Print Manager menu entry. In addition, when a print job is in the queue, an icon will appear in the panel's system notification area. o Red Hat Linux 9 includes the Native POSIX Thread Library (NPTL), a new implementation of POSIX threads for Linux. This library provides performance improvements and increased scalability for i686 or better processors. This thread library is designed to be binary compatible with the old LinuxThreads implementation; however, applications that rely on the places where the LinuxThreads implementation deviates from the POSIX standard will need to be fixed. Notable differences include: - Signal handling has changed from per-thread signal handling to POSIX process signal handling. - getpid() returns the same value in all threads. - Thread handlers registered with pthread_atfork are not run if vfork() is used - no manager thread Applications that are known to have problems using NPTL include: - Sun JRE prior to version 1.4.1 - IBM JRE If an application does not work properly with NPTL, it can be run using the old LinuxThreads implementation by setting the following environment variable: LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=<kernel-version> The following versions are available: - 2.4.1 - Linuxthreads with floating stacks - 2.2.5 - Linuxthreads without floating stacks NPTL support for all dynamically-linked applications can be disabled by using the following boot-time option: nosysinfo o A new system message has been added to Red Hat Linux 9: application bug: <app-name>(<app-pid>) has SIGCHLD set to SIG_IGN but calls wait(). (see the NOTES section of 'man 2 wait'). Workaround activated. This message (which is displayed on the system console and/or in the system log files) indicates that the application is not completely standards compliant with respect to its handling of child processes. If you see this message, you should alert the application's developers. o Python has been compiled with UCS4 support (Unicode characters represented on 4 bytes) as opposed to UCS2. UCS4 allows one to represent characters outside of the Basic Multilingual Plane. Certain third-party libraries may stop working because of this change; recompiling these libraries should be sufficient to resolve the problem. Please note that "pure" python modules (whose code is written in python) or compiled modules that do not directly use Unicode are not affected by this change. o The fileutils, textutils, sh-utils, and stat packages have been replaced by the newer coreutils package. o The RPMs containing the Network Administration Tool have changed names and functions. The RPM redhat-config-network contains the tool's graphical user interface, while redhat-config-network-tui contains the tool itself (along with its text-based user interface). o Support for XHTML1 - the reformulation of HTML in XML - has been improved. This has been done by adding the xhtml1-dtd package, installing the DTDs in the system catalog, and adding native support in the libxml2 and xsltproc tools. o The redhat-switchmail command and package have been renamed redhat-switch-mail. The redhat-switchmail-gnome package has been renamed redhat-switch-mail-gnome. o The Oprofile system-wide profiler has been added to Red Hat Linux 9. OProfile is a programmer's tool for analyzing system performance, using special hardware built into many modern computers. Documentation for OProfile exists in the oprofile package; after installing Red Hat Linux 9, issue the command rpm -qd oprofile to obtain a listing of the available documentation. See the OProfile website at http://oprofile.sourceforge.net for more details. o GDB has been enhanced to allow debugging information for applications to be read from separate files. This makes it possible to extract debugging information from binaries and place them in a supplemental package. During the development of Red Hat Linux 9, "debuginfo" packages were generated for nearly every package by implementing special RPM macros. By default, the RPM macro configuration in Red Hat Linux 9 generates "debuginfo" packages. If you are building packages and do not want to generate "debuginfo" packages, add the following to your ~/.rpmmacros file: %define debug_package %{nil} Package Changes The following packages have been added to Red Hat Linux 9: - bluez-libs - Libraries for Bluetooth(TM) utility programs - bluez-utils - Bluetooth utility programs - bogl - Graphics library for framebuffers; used by the Red Hat Linux installation program - ckermit - Replaces gkermit - coreutils - Replaces fileutils, textutils, sh-utils and stat - desktop-printing - Drag-and-drop printing and print job icon - devlabel - Support for persistent storage device access - elfutils - Replaces libelf - fontilus - Font viewer for Nautilus - fonts-hebrew - Hebrew fonts - gnome-icon-theme - Icons for base GNOME environment - gnome-themes - Collection of themes for GNOME environment - gstreamer - Multimedia framework library - gstreamer-plugins - Input and output plugins for gstreamer - gthumb - Graphics viewer - hpoj - HP OfficeJet support - jwhois - Replaces whois - libgnomeprint22 - Updated libraries - libgnomeprintui22 - Updated libraries - libgsf - Library for reading/writing structured files - nautilus-cd-burner - CD burning support for Nautilus - nautilus-media - Audio playing support for Nautilus - openssl096b - Compatibility maintenance package - postgresql-odbc - ODBC support for PostgreSQL - postgresql72-libs - PostgreSQL 7.2 compatibility libraries - printman - Print queue management - pyorbit - Replaces orbit-python - redhat-config-samba - Samba configuration tool - redhat-switch-mail - Renamed from redhat-switchmail - soup - SOAP implementation library - startup-notification - Support for busy cursor - subversion - Version control system - tsclient - GUI client for VNS and Windows Terminal Server - ttmkfdir - Separated from XFree86 - vconfig - VLAN (802.1q) configuration program - xhtml1-dtds - XHTML1 support The following packages have been removed from Red Hat Linux 9: - WindowMaker - Developer resource constraints - Xft - Integrated into XFree86 - Xtest - No longer required by Anaconda - anonftp - functionality pulled into vsftpd package - bdflush - No longer required (needed by 2.2 kernels only) - fileutils - Replaced by coreutils - fortune-mod - Unclear copyright status - gkermit - Replaced by ckermit - ipvsadm - No longer part of Red Hat Linux product profile - kbdconfig - Replaced by redhat-config-keyboard - kernel-uml - Experimental package, removed - ksymoops - No longer required by kernel - libelf - Replaced by elfutils - librpm404 - No longer required compatibility library - libxml10 - No longer required compatibility library - mouseconfig - Replaced by redhat-config-mouse - openldap12 - No longer required compatibility library - openssl095a - No longer required compatibility library - orbit-python - Replaced by pyorbit - php-dbg-base - Not used within distribution - php-dbg-client - Not used within distribution - php-dbg-server - Not used within distribution - redhat-switchmail - Renamed to redhat-switch-mail - rhmask - Red Hat no longer distributes rhmask files - rpm2html - Deprecated by author - sh-utils - Replaced by coreutils - stat - Replaced by coreutils - textutils - Replaced by coreutils - timeconfig - Replaced by redhat-config-date - whois - Replaced by jwhois - wine - Developer resource constraints - wmapm - Part of Windowmaker removal - wmclock - Part of Windowmaker removal - wmix - Part of Windowmaker removal - wu-ftpd - vsftpd is the recommended FTP daemon - xtoolwait - Not used within distribution The following packages have been deprecated, and may be removed from a future release of Red Hat Linux: - pine - License-related issues - LPRng - CUPS is the recommended printing solution - Glide3 - Multi-platform issues - lilo - GRUB is the recommended bootloader - sndconfig - No longer required by mainstream hardware - ncpfs - No longer part of Red Hat Linux product profile - mars-nwe - No longer part of Red Hat Linux product profile Kernel Notes This section covers issues that are related to the Red Hat Linux 9 kernel. o Special Note: The ACL support added to the kernel in the first two public beta releases proved to be unstable and caused the kernel to regress. Red Hat has therefore removed that ACL support from the kernel for Red Hat Linux 9. Kernel engineers will continue work on improving the ACL support, which will be available in a future release. The attr and acl packages needed to support ACLs are still included to make it easier for users and developers who wish to test ACLs. Red Hat may, at our discretion, provide ACL support for this release of Red Hat Linux by means of an upgrade, if future testing demonstrates that the ACL support has sufficiently improved in quality. o The apic boot-time option allowing installation on systems with the Intel 440GX chipset has been removed because it caused a conflict with many newer systems: it caused SMM (System Management Mode) not to function, or to function incorrectly, causing installation on those systems to fail. Removing the apic boot-time option enables these newer systems to install successfully. A different workaround has been provided that allows at least some systems with the Intel 440GX chipset to boot; this workaround is automatically enabled, and requires no action on your part. If you have an Intel 440GX-based system and are unable to install Red Hat Linux 9 but a previous release of Red Hat Linux installs correctly, please file a bug report, and include the output (running on the previous release, of course) of the dmidecode program, run as root, with your bug report. Note however, that it will not be possible to install Red Hat Linux 9 at all. Systems with the 440GX chipset are supported only on a best-effort basis. Therefore, we welcome bug reports regarding systems with the 440GX chipset, but may or may not be able to resolve them. o The kernel support for the new NPTL feature changes several internal kernel programming interfaces significantly. As a result, several external kernel modules may not compile without modifications to match the new interfaces. Examples currently include the NVIDIA and ATI 3D modules, as well as any other modules that use kernel threads and/or signals. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

April 7, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat 9.0 ISO

by Stephen C. Daukas

OK, everyone _knows_ the coolest number is 42!

April 2, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat 9.0 ISO

by Gary Hanley

No, Number 9 is actually cooler. Number 9. Number 9. Number 9. Number 9... 8-)~ -- Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Peckar" <fog(a)fognet.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:36 PM Subject: RE: [Wlug] Redhat 9.0 ISO > Nothing is cooler than the number 11 > > HP Seems to have stuck with it > X seems to have stuck with it > MP3 sync blocks are 11 bits do or die > > Ah, but I'm biased, as I'm a Spinal Tap fan, a Deadhead, > and my first internet access was via RSTS... > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

April 2, 2003

RE: [Wlug] Redhat 9.0 ISO

by Mike Peckar

Nothing is cooler than the number 11 HP Seems to have stuck with it X seems to have stuck with it MP3 sync blocks are 11 bits do or die Ah, but I'm biased, as I'm a Spinal Tap fan, a Deadhead, and my first internet access was via RSTS...

April 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat 9.0 ISO

by Charles R. Anderson

First of all, it is Red Hat 9, not 9.0. Second, it isn't supposed to be publically available until next week. On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 02:10:46PM -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: chaines> If anyone is lucky enough to be on the WPI network, redhat 9.0 ISO's are chaines> ready for download from the WPILA ftp server. Just ftp to wpila.wpi.edu chaines> from on campus and log in anonymously. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

April 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat 9.0 ISO

by Frank Sweetser

On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 04:22:05PM -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: > There was much debate over why it was called 9.0 and not just 8.1. In my <nitpick> It's "9", not "9.0" </nitpick> -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer

April 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat 9.0 ISO

by Chuck Haines

There was much debate over why it was called 9.0 and not just 8.1. In my opinion after having used it for a day now, there was no need for it to be 9.0, it could have easily been 8.1. However some useful documents are on the redhat website as to why its 9.0 and not 8.1. Nothing really was that convincing though. Chuck ==================================== Chuck Haines chaines(a)wpi.edu http://www.linux-xtreme.net ==================================== WPI ECE Systems Administrator WPI Game Development Club Developer WPI Linux Association Lab Manager Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-IT Systems Administrator ==================================== AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ==================================== Sean said: > At 03:04 PM 4/1/2003 , you wrote: >>I agree that bigger numbers are more impressive when the number is >> between 0 and 10 but what will happen after 10? 12 does not seem that >> impressive to me... 19? 34? may be 99? :) >> >>baris > > I think that if the next number is not cool enough, the default is to > use the year. Luckily, now that we are into the 2k century, every year > sounds cool. > > aka: > Linux 2k5!!! > > Cheers, > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat 9.0 ISO

by Karl Hiramoto

glibc 2.3 is probally a big one. On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Chuck Haines wrote: > There was much debate over why it was called 9.0 and not just 8.1. In my > opinion after having used it for a day now, there was no need for it to be > 9.0, it could have easily been 8.1. However some useful documents are on > the redhat website as to why its 9.0 and not 8.1. Nothing really was that > convincing though. > > Chuck > ==================================== > Chuck Haines > chaines(a)wpi.edu > http://www.linux-xtreme.net > ==================================== > WPI ECE Systems Administrator > WPI Game Development Club Developer > WPI Linux Association Lab Manager > Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity > TKE-IT Systems Administrator > ==================================== > AIM: CyberGrex > YIM: CyberGrex_27 > ICQ: 3707881 > ==================================== > > Sean said: > > At 03:04 PM 4/1/2003 , you wrote: > >>I agree that bigger numbers are more impressive when the number is > >> between 0 and 10 but what will happen after 10? 12 does not seem that > >> impressive to me... 19? 34? may be 99? :) > >> > >>baris > > > > I think that if the next number is not cool enough, the default is to > > use the year. Luckily, now that we are into the 2k century, every year > > sounds cool. > > > > aka: > > Linux 2k5!!! > > > > Cheers, > > Sean > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø When all else fails, EAT!!!

April 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat 9.0 ISO

by Sean

At 03:04 PM 4/1/2003 , you wrote: >I agree that bigger numbers are more impressive when the number is >between 0 and 10 but what will happen after 10? 12 does not seem that >impressive to me... 19? 34? may be 99? :) > >baris I think that if the next number is not cool enough, the default is to use the year. Luckily, now that we are into the 2k century, every year sounds cool. aka: Linux 2k5!!! Cheers, Sean

April 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat 9.0 ISO

by Baris Hasdemir

I agree that bigger numbers are more impressive when the number is between 0 and 10 but what will happen after 10? 12 does not seem that impressive to me... 19? 34? may be 99? :) baris On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:54:32 -0500 Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 02:51:38PM -0500, Gary Hanley wrote: > > What! 9.0? > > What happened to 8.1? > > RedHat is falling into the "bigger numbers are more impressive" trap. > It's not even 9.0, it's just 9. > > I am still trying to download disc 1 from RHN. Was getting 5-8k/sec > yesterday. Now at least I'm averaging 32k/sec. It's still pathetic, > but better than before. Only another 5.6 ISOs to go. <sigh> > > -- > Randomly Generated Tagline: > "Neil hasn't locked and loaded anything other than a floppy disk." > - Unknown at Collective Technologies Hiring Weekend (4/29/2000) >

April 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat 9.0 ISO

by Theo Van Dinter

On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 02:51:38PM -0500, Gary Hanley wrote: > What! 9.0? > What happened to 8.1? RedHat is falling into the "bigger numbers are more impressive" trap. It's not even 9.0, it's just 9. I am still trying to download disc 1 from RHN. Was getting 5-8k/sec yesterday. Now at least I'm averaging 32k/sec. It's still pathetic, but better than before. Only another 5.6 ISOs to go. <sigh> -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Neil hasn't locked and loaded anything other than a floppy disk." - Unknown at Collective Technologies Hiring Weekend (4/29/2000)

April 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat 9.0 ISO

by Gary Hanley

What! 9.0? What happened to 8.1? -- Gary On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Chuck Haines wrote: > If anyone is lucky enough to be on the WPI network, redhat 9.0 ISO's are > ready for download from the WPILA ftp server. Just ftp to wpila.wpi.edu > from on campus and log in anonymously. > > Enjoy, > Chuck Haines > ==================================== > Chuck Haines > chaines(a)wpi.edu > http://www.linux-xtreme.net > ==================================== > WPI ECE Systems Administrator > WPI Game Development Club Developer > WPI Linux Association Lab Manager > Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity > TKE-IT Systems Administrator > ==================================== > AIM: CyberGrex > YIM: CyberGrex_27 > ICQ: 3707881 > ==================================== > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

April 1, 2003

Redhat 9.0 ISO

by Chuck Haines

If anyone is lucky enough to be on the WPI network, redhat 9.0 ISO's are ready for download from the WPILA ftp server. Just ftp to wpila.wpi.edu from on campus and log in anonymously. Enjoy, Chuck Haines ==================================== Chuck Haines chaines(a)wpi.edu http://www.linux-xtreme.net ==================================== WPI ECE Systems Administrator WPI Game Development Club Developer WPI Linux Association Lab Manager Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-IT Systems Administrator ==================================== AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ====================================

April 1, 2003

Looking for some help with Embedded Linux

by Michael Mathur

We are a small company in Fraklin, Massachusetts, We are looking for some help with embedded linux project. The project involves networking, routing, streaming video/graphics/display management& routing, Web Browser and Server. Please contact me if you are interested. Michael BL Software Systems, Inc. (508) 520 3850 (508) 520 6970 (fax) MichaelMathur(a)attbi.com

April 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat 9.0 ISO

by Bill Smith

On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:04:23 -0500 Baris Hasdemir <penguen(a)hasdemir.com> wrote: BH> I agree that bigger numbers are more impressive when the number is BH> between 0 and 10 but what will happen after 10? 12 does not seem BH> that impressive to me... 19? 34? may be 99? :) You'll have to ask HP/UX fans what they think about high numbers... ;) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com In God we trust. All others must submit an X.509 certificate. * TAG! v3.1 *

April 1, 2003

book recommendations (LAMP)...

by Stephen C. Daukas

Anyone hear anything about the book Open Source Web Development with LAMP: Using Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl, and PHP by James B. Lee, Brent Ware ? I'm thinking about going over this type of content with my students... STeve

April 1, 2003

acpi

by Wesley Allen

Hi gang, ACPI is FINALLY compiled into Mandrake's kernel; but I'm having a hitch. While the kernel will boot with acpi enabled every now and again, most times it gets to a point where keventd is called for and the kernel message is that it hasn't started yet. Any ideas what on earth might be happening? I'm going to the acpi list as well, but I'd see if any of you linux laptop users have had this problem (there are google hits for this problem, but I'm hitting a dead end there). Wes

March 31, 2003

Re: [Wlug] RAS server

by Stéphane Purnelle

Ok, but how to configure a ppp server with callback system ? And, how to route the ppp connection for acces to the LAN. Le sam 29/03/2003 à 07:33, Karl Hiramoto a écrit : > use the ssh server to login to your machine remotely. > > > man ssh > man sshd > > if you mean modem dial in support, you would probally want to setup a > ppp server. > > Stéphane Purnelle wrote: > > >Hi > > > >I would like make a RAS (Remote acces support) server on my linux. > >How make it ? > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >

March 30, 2003

Re: [Wlug] stupid question - no such thing!

by Tom Guilderson

Wes, The best place to start is in the kernel source tarball for the version of your kernel. under the Documentation directory. In the usb directory there is a file philips.txt which I included below from 2.4.20 and there appears to be a website where you may find more. As I do not have a webcam I can't provide much more info - good luck! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This file contains some additional information for the Philips webcams. E-mail: webcam(a)smcc.demon.nl Last updated: 2001-09-24 The main webpage for the Philips driver is http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/. It contains a lot of extra information, a FAQ, and the binary plugin 'PWCX'. This plugin contains decompression routines that allow you to use higher image sizes and framerates; in addition the webcam uses less bandwidth on the USB bus (handy if you want to run more than 1 camera simultaneously). These routines fall under an NDA, and may therefor not be distributed as source; however, its use is completely optional. You can build this code either into your kernel, or as a module. I recommend the latter, since it makes troubleshooting a lot easier. The built-in microphone is supported through the USB Audio class. When you load the module you can set some default settings for the camera; some programs depend on a particular image-size or -format and don't know how to set it properly in the driver. The options are: size Can be one of 'sqcif', 'qsif', 'qcif', 'sif', 'cif' or 'vga', for an image size of resp. 128x96, 160x120, 176x144, 320x240, 352x288 and 640x480 (of course, only for those cameras that support these resolutions). fps Specifies the desired framerate. Is an integer in the range of 4-30. fbufs This paramter specifies the number of internal buffers to use for storing frames from the cam. This will help if the process that reads images from the cam is a bit slow or momentarely busy. However, on slow machines it only introduces lag, so choose carefully. The default is 3, which is reasonable. You can set it between 2 and 5. mbufs This is an integer between 1 and 4. It will tell the module the number of buffers to reserve for mmap(), VIDIOCCGMBUF, VIDIOCMCAPTURE and friends. The default is 2, which is adequate for most applications (double buffering). Should you experience a lot of 'Dumping frame...' messages during grabbing with a tool that uses mmap(), you might want to increase if. However, it doesn't really buffer images, it just gives you a bit more slack when your program is behind. But you need a multi-threaded or forked program to really take advantage of these buffers. The absolute maximum is 4, but don't set it too high! Every buffer takes up 1.22 MB of RAM, so unless you have a lot of memory setting this to something more than 2 is an absolute waste. This memory is only allocated during open(), so nothing is wasted when the camera is not in use. power_save When power_save is enabled (set to 1), the module will try to shut down the cam on close() and re-activate on open(). This will save power and turn off the LED. Not all cameras support this though (the 645 and 646 don't have power saving at all), and some models don't work either (they will shut down, but never wake up). Consider this experimental. By default this option is disabled. compression (only useful with the plugin) With this option you can control the compression factor that the camera uses to squeeze the image through the USB bus. You can set the parameter between 0 and 3: 0 = prefer uncompressed images; if the requested mode is not available in an uncompressed format, the driver will silently switch to low compression. 1 = low compression. 2 = medium compression. 3 = high compression. High compression takes less bandwidth of course, but it could also introduce some unwanted artefacts. The default is 2, medium compression. See the FAQ on the website for an overview of which modes require compression. The compression parameter only applies to the Vesta & ToUCam cameras. The 645 and 646 have fixed compression parameters. leds This settings takes 2 integers, that define the on/off time for the LED (in milliseconds). One of the interesting things that you can do with this is let the LED blink while the camera is in use. This: leds=500,500 will blink the LED once every second. But with: leds=0,0 the LED never goes on, making it suitable for silent survaillance. By default the camera's LED is on solid while in use, and turned off when the camera is not used anymore. This parameter works only with the ToUCam range of cameras (730, 740, 750). For other cameras this command is silently ignored, and the LED cannot be controlled. dev_hint A long standing problem with USB devices is their dynamic nature: you never know what device a camera gets assigned; it depends on module load order, the hub configuration, the order in which devices are plugged in, and the phase of the moon (i.e. it can be random). With this option you can give the driver a hint as to what video device node (/dev/videoX) it should use with a specific camera. This is also handy if you have two cameras of the same model. A camera is specified by its type (the number from the camera model, like PCA645, PCVC750VC, etc) and optionally the serial number (visible in /proc/bus/usb/devices). A hint consists of a string with the following format: [type[.serialnumber]:]node The square brackets mean that both the type and the serialnumber are optional, but a serialnumber cannot be specified without a type (which would be rather pointless). The serialnumber is separated from the type by a '.'; the node number by a ':'. This somewhat cryptic syntax is best explained by a few examples: dev_hint=3,5 The first detected cam gets assigned /dev/video3, the second /dev/video5. Any other cameras will get the first free available slot (see below). dev_hint=645:1,680=2 The PCA645 camera will get /dev/video1, and a PCVC680 /dev/video2. dev_hint=645.0123:3,645.4567:0 The PCA645 camera with serialnumber 0123 goes to /dev/video3, the same camera model with the 4567 serial gets /dev/video0. dev_hint=750:1,4,5,6 The PCVC750 camera will get /dev/video1, the next 3 Philips cams will use /dev/video4 through /dev/video6. Some points worth knowing: - Serialnumbers are case sensitive and must be written full, including leading zeroes (it's treated as a string). - If a device node is already occupied, registration will fail and the webcam is not available. - You can have up to 64 video devices; be sure to make enough device nodes in /dev if you want to spread the numbers (this does not apply to devfs). After /dev/video9 comes /dev/video10 (not /dev/videoA). - If a camera does not match any dev_hint, it will simply get assigned the first available device node, just as it used to be. trace In order to better detect problems, it is now possible to turn on a 'trace' of some of the calls the module makes; it logs all items in your kernel log at debug level. The trace variable is a bitmask; each bit represents a certain feature. If you want to trace something, look up the bit value(s) in the table below, add the values together and supply that to the trace variable. Value Value Description Default (dec) (hex) 1 0x1 Module initialization; this will log messages On while loading and unloading the module 2 0x2 probe() and disconnect() traces On 4 0x4 Trace open() and close() calls Off 8 0x8 read(), mmap() and associated ioctl() calls Off 16 0x10 Memory allocation of buffers, etc. Off 32 0x20 Showing underflow, overflow and Dumping frame On messages 64 0x40 Show viewport and image sizes Off For example, to trace the open() & read() fuctions, sum 8 + 4 = 12, so you would supply trace=12 during insmod or modprobe. If you want to turn the initialization and probing tracing off, set trace=0. The default value for trace is 35 (0x23). Example: # modprobe pwc size=cif fps=15 power_save=1 The fbufs, mbufs and trace parameters are global and apply to all connected cameras. Each camera has its own set of buffers. size, fps, palette only specify defaults when you open() the device; this is to accommodate some tools that don't set the size or colour palette. You can change these settings after open() with the Video4Linux ioctl() calls. The default of defaults is QCIF size at 10 fps, BGR order. The compression parameter is semiglobal; it sets the initial compression preference for all camera's, but this parameter can be set per camera with the VIDIOCPWCSCQUAL ioctl() call. All parameters are optional. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On 2003.03.28 22:42 Wesley Allen wrote: > Hi gang, > I've hit a snag with mdk 9.1, the driver for my web cam no > longer > supports the default palette for gnomemeeting. So it tells me to > check > my driver docs to see what palettes are supported.... where is a good > place to find kernel-driver docs? > > The module is pwc in case you were wondering..... > > Wes > -- > Wesley Allen <wallen(a)charter.net> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 29, 2003

Re: [Wlug] RAS server

by Karl Hiramoto

use the ssh server to login to your machine remotely. man ssh man sshd if you mean modem dial in support, you would probally want to setup a ppp server. Stéphane Purnelle wrote: >Hi > >I would like make a RAS (Remote acces support) server on my linux. >How make it ? > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- €º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto €º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø Anybody can win, unless there happens to be a second entry.

March 29, 2003

stupid question

by Wesley Allen

Hi gang, I've hit a snag with mdk 9.1, the driver for my web cam no longer supports the default palette for gnomemeeting. So it tells me to check my driver docs to see what palettes are supported.... where is a good place to find kernel-driver docs? The module is pwc in case you were wondering..... Wes -- Wesley Allen <wallen(a)charter.net>

March 29, 2003

Re: [Wlug] WLUG website idea

by Frank Sweetser

On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 08:22:40PM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: > If you think this is a good idea, please send me e-mail with your name, > project name, and your involvement (doc writer, coder, tester, etc). I think that's a great idea! As for myself, I'm the primary maintainer of the (currently stagnant for quite a while) LANdb project, and I'm getting involved with a little beta testing and possibly some development of the access grid. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer

March 29, 2003

WLUG website idea

by Andy Stewart

HI everybody, I had an idea...let me know what you think of it. I was thinking about creating a part of the WLUG website that would be a set of links to open source projects in which WLUG members are actively involved. For example, I wrote the users' guide for the GimpPrint software, so there would be a link to the GimpPrint website. If you think this is a good idea, please send me e-mail with your name, project name, and your involvement (doc writer, coder, tester, etc). Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 29, 2003

RAS server

by Stéphane Purnelle

Hi I would like make a RAS (Remote acces support) server on my linux. How make it ?

March 28, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Tonight...

by John Stoffel

Tom> Can not make it either. my wife is teaching and I have the twins. Tom> They are still a little too young to bring to a meeting! Didn't stop me, I brought my kid last night. Luckily my wife came and got him after work got out. :]

March 27, 2003

RE: [Wlug] Weird garbage characters in info/man

by Keller, Tim

Eureka! I can't take credit for finding the fix, my co-worker found it on Usenet via google groups... The temporary solution was to export LANG=en_US the permanent solution is to edit /etc/sysconfig/i18n to make it permanent. I hope this helps others... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:06 AM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: [Wlug] Weird garbage characters in info/man I just created a RH 8.0 box for testing and when I go into info, there's garbage characters all over the place. Here's an example from the "info rpm" page... rpm {âEURâEURq|âEURâEURâEURâEURquery} [selectâEURâEURoptions] [queryâEURâEURoptions] I'm connected to the box vis SSH using teh "F-Secure SSH" client for windows. I've never had an issue with any other box. It's almost like some library or character set didn't get installed... Thanks, Tim. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 27, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Weird garbage characters in info/man

by Charles R. Anderson

See /usr/share/doc/redhat-release-8.0/RELEASE-NOTES* Search for UTF-8. On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 09:06:21AM -0500, Keller, Tim wrote: Tim.Keller> I just created a RH 8.0 box for testing and when I go into info, there's Tim.Keller> garbage characters all over the place. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

March 27, 2003

Re: [Wlug] URGENT :( -> Need files located in /usr/lib/apache from original RedHat 7.2 installation (i.e. CD install with no upgrade)

by Charles R. Anderson

March 27, 2003

Weird garbage characters in info/man

by Keller, Tim

I just created a RH 8.0 box for testing and when I go into info, there's garbage characters all over the place. Here's an example from the "info rpm" page... rpm {âEURâEURq|âEURâEURâEURâEURquery} [selectâEURâEURoptions] [queryâEURâEURoptions] I'm connected to the box vis SSH using teh "F-Secure SSH" client for windows. I've never had an issue with any other box. It's almost like some library or character set didn't get installed... Thanks, Tim.

March 27, 2003

Re: [Wlug] URGENT :( -> Need files located in /usr/lib/apache from original RedHat 7.2 installation (i.e. CD install with no upgrade)

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 aramico(a)duahati.com wrote: M> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:09:13 +0700 M> From: aramico(a)duahati.com M> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org M> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org M> Subject: [Wlug] URGENT :( -> Need files located in /usr/lib/apache from M> original RedHat 7.2 installation (i.e. CD install with no upgrade) M> M> Hi all, M> M> Can you please help me. I urgently need all files from the directory indicated below: M> M> /usr/lib/apache M> M> from an original installation of RedHat 7.2 M> M> Thanks, M> M> Mico M> M> Mico, Here is a list of the packages that put files in that directory: apache-1.3.20-16.i386.rpm auth_ldap-1.4.8-3.i386.rpm mod_auth_any-1.0.2-1.i386.rpm mod_auth_mysql-1.11-1.i386.rpm mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.8-1.i386.rpm mod_bandwidth-2.0.2-2.i386.rpm mod_dav-1.0.2-6.i386.rpm mod_perl-1.24_01-3.i386.rpm mod_put-1.3-1.i386.rpm mod_python-2.7.6-1.i386.rpm mod_roaming-1.0.2-4.i386.rpm mod_ssl-2.8.4-9.i386.rpm mod_throttle-3.1.2-1.i386.rpm php-4.0.6-7.i386.rpm With the exception of the apache rpm, the rest are just single files. I don't have a Red Hat 7.2 machine running now, but I do have the rpm's if you need them. Let me know. Bill

March 27, 2003

URGENT :( -> Need files located in /usr/lib/apache from original RedHat 7.2 installation (i.e. CD install with no upgrade)

by aramico＠duahati.com

Hi all, Can you please help me. I urgently need all files from the directory indicated below: /usr/lib/apache from an original installation of RedHat 7.2 Thanks, Mico

March 27, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Tonight...

by Tom Guilderson

Can not make it either. my wife is teaching and I have the twins. They are still a little too young to bring to a meeting! I would love a copy of the talk as well! someone have a Guiness for me at the Boynton! On 2003.03.26 07:55 Bill Smith wrote: > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:16:58 -0500 > "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> wrote: > > KT> I'm not sure what Maddog's rules are on this, but would anybody > KT> (specifically, those at WPI, who might have access to the > equipment) > KT> be interested in taping the lecture tonight? > KT> > KT> I've got access to a NLE machine and a DVD-R burner, so I could > make > KT> DVD's out of the lecture if people would be interested. > > I'd like one, too. i won't be able to make it because of familial > obligations. <shrug> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com > Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com > > "Of course, the more I learn, the more I realize I > don't know. At some point, I hope to learn enough to > realize that I know nothing at all. Then maybe I'll be > able to snatch a pebble from Julia Child's hand." -- > Alton Brown, "I'm Just Here For The Food" > * TAG! v3.1 * > >

March 26, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Upcoming meeting Wed. March 26th 7 PM

by Keith Wright

> From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> > > I'm sending out this reminder early in the hope that we'll have > alot of people coming to this WLUG meeting. Early notice is good, but so is last minute reminder. I nearly forgot about this in the intervening weeks. See you! Upcoming meeting Wed. March 26th 7 PM ( *today* ) > At this meeting, our guest speaker will be Jon 'maddog' Hall. > > The meeting will be held in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus in > Worcester, MA (the usual place). > > Please pass the word around to all of your Linux friends! Done. -- Keith

March 26, 2003

Re: [Wlug] add memory, loose sound?

by Jeff Kinz

On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:45:52AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, John Stoffel wrote: > js>Subject: Re: [Wlug] add memory, loose sound? > js>Bill> I just added 128 MB of memory to my Dell Optiplex GX1, and now > js>Bill> my sound card (on motherboard CS 4236) is no longer recognized. > js>Bill> It's possible that I did something bad to the motherboard when > js>Bill> inserting the memory cards. Or, is there any way that adding > js>Bill> memory (now 128 + 128 + 64) could disable the sound? > js> > js>What do the boot logs say when you look at them after adding the > js>memory? Any errors? It's possible that you did something bad, but as > js>a first check, I'd just pull the extra memory and see if it comes > js>back. > > Yeah, that's what I figured I'd try next. I was just too lazy last > night. Good RAM test tool just in case you need it : http://www.memtest86.com/ Its free. You boot into it from a floppy and set up a few parameters. Then let it go for as long as you like. minutes, hours, days. If you have some bad RAM it'll find it. Memtest86 is thorough, stand alone memory test for x86 architecture computers. BIOS based memory tests are only a quick check and often miss many of the failures that are detected by Memtest86. Memtest86 is released under the terms of the Gnu Public License (GPL). Other than the provisions of the GNU pubic licence (GPL) there are no restrictions for use, private or commercial. -- Jeff Kinz, Open-PC, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. jkinz(a)kinz.org copyright 2003. Use is restricted. Any use is an acceptance of the offer at http://www.kinz.org/policy.html.

March 26, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Tonight...

by Baris Hasdemir

I would be interested in one of those DVDs if I can. Because, I won't be able to make it as usual. baris hasdemir On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:16:58 -0500 Keller, Tim wrote: > I'm not sure what Maddog's rules are on this, but would anybody > (specifically, those at WPI, who might have access to the equipment) be > interested in taping the lecture tonight? > > I've got access to a NLE machine and a DVD-R burner, so I could make DVD's > out of the lecture if people would be interested. > > Thanks, > Tim. >

March 26, 2003

Re: [Wlug] add memory, loose sound?

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, John Stoffel wrote: js>Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:16:32 -0500 js>From: John Stoffel <stoffel(a)lucent.com> js>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org js>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org js>Subject: Re: [Wlug] add memory, loose sound? js> js> js>Bill> I just added 128 MB of memory to my Dell Optiplex GX1, and now js>Bill> my sound card (on motherboard CS 4236) is no longer recognized. js>Bill> It's possible that I did something bad to the motherboard when js>Bill> inserting the memory cards. Or, is there any way that adding js>Bill> memory (now 128 + 128 + 64) could disable the sound? js> js>What do the boot logs say when you look at them after adding the js>memory? Any errors? It's possible that you did something bad, but as js>a first check, I'd just pull the extra memory and see if it comes js>back. Yeah, that's what I figured I'd try next. I was just too lazy last night. Here's what's in dmesg output: isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: Card 'CS4236B' isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total speakup: initialized device: /dev/synth, node (MAJOR 10, MINOR 25) The indication that the card is not recognized is from kudzu -- it wants to remove the configuration for the file. I also can't get a music CD to play using xmms. js> js>If not, then you have other problems. js> js>Is the sound driver compliled as a module, or is it in the kernel? It's an alsa module, but I'm a little confused... When running "chkconfig --list", I see that I forgot to have the service start at any runlevel (the machine has been up for a while, and I guess I never quite finished the configuration), but, if I try "service alsasound start", it says it's already running. Weird. js> js>John Thanks, Bill

March 26, 2003

Re: [Wlug] add memory, loose sound?

by John Stoffel

Bill> I just added 128 MB of memory to my Dell Optiplex GX1, and now Bill> my sound card (on motherboard CS 4236) is no longer recognized. Bill> It's possible that I did something bad to the motherboard when Bill> inserting the memory cards. Or, is there any way that adding Bill> memory (now 128 + 128 + 64) could disable the sound? What do the boot logs say when you look at them after adding the memory? Any errors? It's possible that you did something bad, but as a first check, I'd just pull the extra memory and see if it comes back. If not, then you have other problems. Is the sound driver compliled as a module, or is it in the kernel? John

March 26, 2003

Tonight...

by Keller, Tim

I'm not sure what Maddog's rules are on this, but would anybody (specifically, those at WPI, who might have access to the equipment) be interested in taping the lecture tonight? I've got access to a NLE machine and a DVD-R burner, so I could make DVD's out of the lecture if people would be interested. Thanks, Tim.

March 26, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Tonight...

by Bill Smith

On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:16:58 -0500 "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> wrote: KT> I'm not sure what Maddog's rules are on this, but would anybody KT> (specifically, those at WPI, who might have access to the equipment) KT> be interested in taping the lecture tonight? KT> KT> I've got access to a NLE machine and a DVD-R burner, so I could make KT> DVD's out of the lecture if people would be interested. I'd like one, too. i won't be able to make it because of familial obligations. <shrug> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "Of course, the more I learn, the more I realize I don't know. At some point, I hope to learn enough to realize that I know nothing at all. Then maybe I'll be able to snatch a pebble from Julia Child's hand." -- Alton Brown, "I'm Just Here For The Food" * TAG! v3.1 *

March 26, 2003

add memory, loose sound?

by Bill Mills-Curran

I just added 128 MB of memory to my Dell Optiplex GX1, and now my sound card (on motherboard CS 4236) is no longer recognized. It's possible that I did something bad to the motherboard when inserting the memory cards. Or, is there any way that adding memory (now 128 + 128 + 64) could disable the sound? TIA, Bill

March 26, 2003

Cheap Laptops...

by Keller, Tim

While doing some research, I came across this site... http://www.pcsevolve.com/products/hotdeals.asp Under their "hot deals" they've got some great prices on laptops... Tim.

March 21, 2003

Perl programmer needed

by Sean

I have a web based project at work that requires a talented Perl programmer to build a user database/authentication scheme and perhaps tie that database into another or rebuild the whole thing from scratch. Familiarity with MySql a necessity, and would mostly be off site requiring only a few visits in the beginning (We are located in Whitinsville). Contact me off list to discuss rates, details, etc. Cheers, Sean

March 20, 2003

Re: [Wlug] up2date question

by Charles R. Anderson

A couple of points I missed in my previous message: It is a good idea to save the output of each rpm command: rpm ... 2>&1 | tee rpm.out especially the last one, so you can see which config files might need to be replaced or merged in with your existing ones (.rpmorig, .rpmnew, and .rpmsave files). For doing a bunch of machines, just NFS export your directory containing the latest-only updates, and mount that on each client to do the updates. My scripts which I use to mirror the updates and maintain the latest-only tree are available here: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/cra-contrib/mirror-tools -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

March 20, 2003

Re: [Wlug] up2date question

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 08:00:39AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: subssn594> > I believe you can use a single up2date account to pull down the necessary subssn594> > RPMs and store them locally at which point you can rsync them to your pool subssn594> > of machines and upgrade each that way. subssn594> For most of the updates, that would work great. The kernel updates subssn594> are trickier, I understand. If you are going to do that, you might as well just do everything manually. It is pretty simple to apply errata manually. I mirror Red Hat's FTP site containing the update packages, and I also wrote a script to maintain a tree of just the latest versions of each package: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/updates (full mirror) ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/updates (only latest) The latest-only tree is useful with the "rpm -F" command, and is used in my method below. My method for updates is as follows: 1. Determine if the kernel needs to be updated, and install the correct architecture of the main kernel, -smp, and/or -enterprise packages first. Always use rpm -i, so you install the new kernel without deleting the older kernel versions (in case you need to boot back to the old one if there is a problem): uname -r rpm -qa | grep kernel | sort rpm -ivh i686/kernel-2.4.18-27.8.0.i686.rpm i686/kernel-smp-2.4.18-27.8.0.i686.rpm (If you are not using grub bootloader, you may need to mkinitrd, edit /etc/lilo.conf, and re-run /sbin/lilo. Since at least Red Hat 7.2, if you are using the grub bootloader, everything is automatic.) 2. Next handle other packages that have i586 and/or i686 architectures (currently only glibc and openssl are compiled for i586/i686). Use rpm -F (freshen) to only upgrade what you already have installed. You also need to install the i386 sub-packages of each package at the same time (i.e., install the i686 version of openssl, but also the i386 versions of the openssl-devel and openssl-perl packages at the same time): rpm -Fvh i686/openssl-*.i686.rpm i386/openssl-{devel,perl}*.i386.rpm rpm -Fvh i686/glibc-{,debug}-2.3.2-4.80.i686.rpm i386/glibc-{common,debug-static,devel,profile,utils}*.i386.rpm 3. Finally, freshen everything else. This will automatically skip over the above packages which you already installed: rpm -Fvh i386/*.i386.rpm noarch/*.noarch.rpm 4. If you upgraded the kernel, reboot to the new one. If you upgraded glibc, you might want to reboot too. Otherwise, you can get away with just restarting services that use the upgraded packages (like restarting apache and sshd after an openssl upgrade): service httpd restart service sshd restart shutdown -r now -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

March 20, 2003

procmail redhat 8.0

by Karl Hiramoto

i upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0 last night for some reason my $HOME/.procmailrc is not being processed Any ideas? It's procmail 3.22 and i'm using sendmail. And i belive procmail is being used for local delivery. thanks -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø The policy is not to have policy. It works as well in kernel design as politics. - Alan Cox on linux-kernel

March 20, 2003

RE: [Wlug] up2date question

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Brett Russ wrote: > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:31:41 -0500 > From: Brett Russ <icycle(a)charter.net> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: RE: [Wlug] up2date question > > > Is there a way that I can use up2date to manage multiple > > installations? The last time I used it, it indicated that it was > > limited to one machine per user email. > > I believe you can use a single up2date account to pull down the necessary > RPMs and store them locally at which point you can rsync them to your pool > of machines and upgrade each that way. > > BR > For most of the updates, that would work great. The kernel updates are trickier, I understand. Bill

March 20, 2003

workshop on hacking/free software

by Mike Gorse

Hi all, I will be facilitating a workshop at WPI on Saturday on hacking and the free software movement. It will be held as part of a conference on "tools and alternatives," so we will be introducing free software (to an audience which will not necessarily be that technically-oriented; the conference will have a broader focus than just computers) as an alternative to relying on restrictive commercial software. I am looking for someone to co-facilitate, so if anyone on here would like to do that or just has ideas on ways to convey our message and make the workshop interesting and interactive, then let me know. Tia. -- Michael Gorse / AIM:linvortex / http://mgorse.home.dhs.org --

March 20, 2003

RE: [Wlug] up2date question

by Brett Russ

> Is there a way that I can use up2date to manage multiple > installations? The last time I used it, it indicated that it was > limited to one machine per user email. I believe you can use a single up2date account to pull down the necessary RPMs and store them locally at which point you can rsync them to your pool of machines and upgrade each that way. BR

March 20, 2003

FW: Wanted - part time Network/Linux Administrator

by Keller, Tim

I thought the people on the WLUG list might find this interesting... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Praveen Ray [mailto:praveen.ray@crcnet1.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:57 PM To: discuss(a)blu.org Subject: Wanted - part time Network/Linux Administrator Looking for a part time Linux Administrator - Will be required to do installations, general network monitoring and be available when something goes down. The datacenter is located in Waltham. Please let me know the asking hourly rate. I Prefer NOT to work with temp agencies. _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss(a)blu.org http://www.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

March 19, 2003

Re: [Wlug] up2date question

by Charles R. Anderson

On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 03:16:05PM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: subssn594> Is there a way that I can use up2date to manage multiple subssn594> installations? The last time I used it, it indicated that it was subssn594> limited to one machine per user email. The free demo account is limited to one system per login unless you purchase a subscription. The details of each level of access is available here: https://rhn.redhat.com/preview/index.pxt -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

March 18, 2003

Re: [Wlug] up2date question

by Karl Hiramoto

AFIK this is still the case, unless you subsribe to thier RHN service. with the RHN service you can mannage 100's of boxes supposedly.. Anyone use it on a large install here? I just use it on a few boxes, each one i setup with it's own e-mail so i could still get it for free :) On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Is there a way that I can use up2date to manage multiple > installations? The last time I used it, it indicated that it was > limited to one machine per user email. > > TIA, > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Hackers are just a migratory lifeform with a tropism for computers.

March 18, 2003

Re: [Wlug] up2date question

by Scott Venier

The free demo account is.. If you pay for an account you can use it for more. Scott On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Is there a way that I can use up2date to manage multiple > installations? The last time I used it, it indicated that it was > limited to one machine per user email. > > TIA, > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 18, 2003

up2date question

by Bill Mills-Curran

Is there a way that I can use up2date to manage multiple installations? The last time I used it, it indicated that it was limited to one machine per user email. TIA, Bill

March 18, 2003

Video-Out

by Wesley Allen

Hi everyone, First an iPAQ update, it's still running Linux, and I'm learning much about /proc (on a handheld.....weird) since I had to fix APM when I ran down the battery all the way. I LIKE it! Writing to my ext2 formatted mm-card is a bit slow (so I boot with a different kernel for software installs :-) ). Thanks for your help in getting it converted! Anyway, the question the day is this: My laptop has got a composite video-out in it. Is there any way to enable this in linux? I've seen some hints of this on the web, but if any of you have some expertise in this area it'd be great. Wes

March 18, 2003

Re: [Wlug] rpm's for kernel modules?

by Charles R. Anderson

Check out the alsa packages from freshrpms.net. They do exactly what you want. On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 08:23:35AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: subssn594> I've dabbled in making rpm's from tar distributions a bit -- just subssn594> enough to get a flavor of rpm building. One of the more challenging subssn594> (frustrating?) rpm tasks is building an rpm for a kernel module. (Or subssn594> maybe the tar/make package I'm starting from is just not subssn594> well-designed.) Since the build can be kernel-specific, it's not even subssn594> clear if building binary rpm's is worth it. Maybe a better idea is to subssn594> concentrate on making the source rpm easily buildable so that the end subssn594> user can generate an installation-specific binary rpm and get the subssn594> benefit of rpm's over tar/make installations. Or, maybe it's not subssn594> worth rpm's at all for kernel modules. subssn594> subssn594> Anyone have opinions on this? -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

March 17, 2003

Re: [Wlug] rpm's for kernel modules?

by Frank Sweetser

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 08:23:35AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I've dabbled in making rpm's from tar distributions a bit -- just > enough to get a flavor of rpm building. One of the more challenging > (frustrating?) rpm tasks is building an rpm for a kernel module. (Or > maybe the tar/make package I'm starting from is just not > well-designed.) Since the build can be kernel-specific, it's not even > clear if building binary rpm's is worth it. Maybe a better idea is to > concentrate on making the source rpm easily buildable so that the end > user can generate an installation-specific binary rpm and get the > benefit of rpm's over tar/make installations. Or, maybe it's not > worth rpm's at all for kernel modules. > > Anyone have opinions on this? A good example of such an RPM is the nvidea drivers. They release a whole slew of different binary ones for different releases of different distros, plus a src rpm that will build to your particular kernel. As long as you have the kernel-source rpm installed that matches the kernel you're running, it works great. http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=linux_display_ia32_1.0-4191 -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer

March 17, 2003

rpm's for kernel modules?

by Bill Mills-Curran

I've dabbled in making rpm's from tar distributions a bit -- just enough to get a flavor of rpm building. One of the more challenging (frustrating?) rpm tasks is building an rpm for a kernel module. (Or maybe the tar/make package I'm starting from is just not well-designed.) Since the build can be kernel-specific, it's not even clear if building binary rpm's is worth it. Maybe a better idea is to concentrate on making the source rpm easily buildable so that the end user can generate an installation-specific binary rpm and get the benefit of rpm's over tar/make installations. Or, maybe it's not worth rpm's at all for kernel modules. Anyone have opinions on this? TIA, Bill

March 17, 2003

RE: Wlug digest, Vol 1 #548 - 5 msgs

by albutler33＠netscape.net

wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > >Subject: [Wlug] Meeting agendas >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:20:16 -0500 >From: "Joel Desrochers" <joelgroup(a)hotmail.com> >To: Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >I think Bob Ziegler would be an awesome presenter. >I am currently reading his "Linux Firewalls" book. > >Joel > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > >Subject: [Wlug] RE: Wlug digest, Vol 1 #547 - 2 msgs >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:13:12 -0500 >From: albutler33(a)netscape.net >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > >>Send Wlug mailing list submissions to >> wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> >>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.orgou folkou folk >> >> >>You can reach the person managing the list at >> wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> >>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." >> >> >> >>Subject: [Wlug] Reminder: Upcoming meeting Wed. March 26th 7 PM >>Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:49:21 -0500 >>From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> >>To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >>CC: officers(a)wpila.org >> >>Hi Everybody, >> >>I'm sending out this reminder early in the hope that we'll have alot of people >>coming to this WLUG meeting. At this meeting, our guest speaker will be Jon >>'maddog' Hall. maddog is the executive director of Linux International and a >>great speaker. He has spoken at two (or three?) previous WLUG meeting and >>we're happy to have him back again. >> >>The meeting will be held in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA >>(the usual place). If you need directions, they can be found on the WLUG >>website. Light refreshments will be served, and I'll bring a couple of items >>for the free (as in beer) raffle. >> >>After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza and beer at the Boynton Restaurant. >> >>Please pass the word around to all of your Linux friends! >> >>Later, >> >>Andy >> >>-- >>Andy Stewart, Founder >>Worcester Linux Users' Group >>Worcester, MA USA >>http://www.wlug.org >> >> >> >> >>Subject: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting activities - ideas needed >>Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:00:46 -0500 >>From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> >>To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >> >> >>Hi everybody, >> >>I'm starting to plan for the next two or three WLUG meetings. I wanted to >>have them planned in advance, as I did with the first few meetings of the >>year 2003. >> >>Here's a summary of what we did (or tried to do): >> >>Jan 03 - Handhelds and Linux with Wes Allen's IPAQ (good meeting!) >>Feb 03 - LAN Party (not well attended, unfortunately) >>Mar 03 - maddog speaks to WLUG >> >>Can somebody tell me why the LAN party was not well attended? I'd like to >>plan meetings that you folks *want* to attend. :-) >> >>I hope to schedule activities for the April, May, and June meetings. >> >>Here are some ideas which I've culled from past e-mails on this subject: >> >>o security / ip tables meeting / firewalls >> (should we ask Bob Ziegler to return?) >> >>o printer drivers, namely gimp-print or foomatic >> >>If you have other ideas, or if you would like to volunteer to give a talk, >>please let me (or the list) know. >> >>Thanks! >> >>Andy >>-- >>Andy Stewart, Founder >>Worcester Linux Users' Group >>Worcester, MA USA >>http://www.wlug.org >> >> >Andy, > >I would like to hear about such topics as: > > getting Apache up and running (I'm trying that now) > GPG (GNU Privacy Guard) > what is LDAP good for? > >Al Butler >> >> >> >> >> > >__________________________________________________________________ >Try AOL and get 1045 hours FREE for 45 days! >http://free.aol.com/tryaolfree/index.adp?375380 > >Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 for FREE! Download Now! >http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promos=380455 > > >Subject: [Wlug] Linux work >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:40:04 -0500 >From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> >To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > >Hi Everybody, > >I was recently contacted by a person at a startup company in Maynard who is >looking for a person to go to the site and install Linux and bugzilla on a >PIII/900. > >He is offering the following in trade for the services: > >o A used computer: PII/400, ?? MB memory >o some version of Linux is installed >o comes with monitor, keyboard, mouse and uninterruptible power supply > >If you are interested, please send me e-mail and I'll forward the details to >you. I'm just the introduction service. :-) > >Later, > >Andy >-- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA USA >http://www.wlug.org > Andy, I would be interested in doing the install. Is Bugzilla included in the distro? I've never installed it before.Anyway,I'm interested if I can do it after work or on the weekend.I'm trying to acquire a server for my church. Al Butler > > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Linux work >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:56:34 -0500 >From: "Michael Kingsbury" <mike(a)beakerware.net> >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >Sure... Give me more info... > >-mike > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org >> [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:40 PM >> To: Worcester Linux Users' Group >> Subject: [Wlug] Linux work >> >> >> >> Hi Everybody, >> >> I was recently contacted by a person at a startup company in >> Maynard who is >> looking for a person to go to the site and install Linux and >> bugzilla on a >> PIII/900. >> >> He is offering the following in trade for the services: >> >> o A used computer: PII/400, ?? MB memory >> o some version of Linux is installed >> o comes with monitor, keyboard, mouse and uninterruptible power supply >> >> If you are interested, please send me e-mail and I'll forward >> the details to >> you. I'm just the introduction service. :-) >> >> Later, >> >> Andy >> -- >> Andy Stewart, Founder >> Worcester Linux Users' Group >> Worcester, MA USA >> http://www.wlug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Linux work >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:35:41 -0500 (EST) >From: Bill Mills-Curran <subssn594(a)charter.net> >To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Andy Stewart wrote: > >> If you are interested, please send me e-mail and I'll forward the details to >> you. I'm just the introduction service. :-) > >Andy, > >Please send me the details. (I use/support bugzilla at work.) > >Thanks, >Bill > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ Try AOL and get 1045 hours FREE for 45 days! http://free.aol.com/tryaolfree/index.adp?375380 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 for FREE! Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promos=380455

March 16, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Linux work

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Andy Stewart wrote: > If you are interested, please send me e-mail and I'll forward the details to > you. I'm just the introduction service. :-) Andy, Please send me the details. (I use/support bugzilla at work.) Thanks, Bill

March 15, 2003

RE: [Wlug] Linux work

by Michael Kingsbury

Sure... Give me more info... -mike > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org > [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:40 PM > To: Worcester Linux Users' Group > Subject: [Wlug] Linux work > > > > Hi Everybody, > > I was recently contacted by a person at a startup company in > Maynard who is > looking for a person to go to the site and install Linux and > bugzilla on a > PIII/900. > > He is offering the following in trade for the services: > > o A used computer: PII/400, ?? MB memory > o some version of Linux is installed > o comes with monitor, keyboard, mouse and uninterruptible power supply > > If you are interested, please send me e-mail and I'll forward > the details to > you. I'm just the introduction service. :-) > > Later, > > Andy > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 15, 2003

Linux work

by Andy Stewart

Hi Everybody, I was recently contacted by a person at a startup company in Maynard who is looking for a person to go to the site and install Linux and bugzilla on a PIII/900. He is offering the following in trade for the services: o A used computer: PII/400, ?? MB memory o some version of Linux is installed o comes with monitor, keyboard, mouse and uninterruptible power supply If you are interested, please send me e-mail and I'll forward the details to you. I'm just the introduction service. :-) Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 15, 2003

RE: Wlug digest, Vol 1 #547 - 2 msgs

by albutler33＠netscape.net

wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.orgou folkou folk > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > >Subject: [Wlug] Reminder: Upcoming meeting Wed. March 26th 7 PM >Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:49:21 -0500 >From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> >To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >CC: officers(a)wpila.org > >Hi Everybody, > >I'm sending out this reminder early in the hope that we'll have alot of people >coming to this WLUG meeting. At this meeting, our guest speaker will be Jon >'maddog' Hall. maddog is the executive director of Linux International and a >great speaker. He has spoken at two (or three?) previous WLUG meeting and >we're happy to have him back again. > >The meeting will be held in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA >(the usual place). If you need directions, they can be found on the WLUG >website. Light refreshments will be served, and I'll bring a couple of items >for the free (as in beer) raffle. > >After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza and beer at the Boynton Restaurant. > >Please pass the word around to all of your Linux friends! > >Later, > >Andy > >-- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA USA >http://www.wlug.org > > > > >Subject: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting activities - ideas needed >Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:00:46 -0500 >From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> >To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > >Hi everybody, > >I'm starting to plan for the next two or three WLUG meetings. I wanted to >have them planned in advance, as I did with the first few meetings of the >year 2003. > >Here's a summary of what we did (or tried to do): > >Jan 03 - Handhelds and Linux with Wes Allen's IPAQ (good meeting!) >Feb 03 - LAN Party (not well attended, unfortunately) >Mar 03 - maddog speaks to WLUG > >Can somebody tell me why the LAN party was not well attended? I'd like to >plan meetings that you folks *want* to attend. :-) > >I hope to schedule activities for the April, May, and June meetings. > >Here are some ideas which I've culled from past e-mails on this subject: > >o security / ip tables meeting / firewalls > (should we ask Bob Ziegler to return?) > >o printer drivers, namely gimp-print or foomatic > >If you have other ideas, or if you would like to volunteer to give a talk, >please let me (or the list) know. > >Thanks! > >Andy >-- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA USA >http://www.wlug.org > > Andy, I would like to hear about such topics as: getting Apache up and running (I'm trying that now) GPG (GNU Privacy Guard) what is LDAP good for? Al Butler > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ Try AOL and get 1045 hours FREE for 45 days! http://free.aol.com/tryaolfree/index.adp?375380 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 for FREE! Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promos=380455

March 15, 2003

Meeting agendas

by Joel Desrochers

I think Bob Ziegler would be an awesome presenter. I am currently reading his "Linux Firewalls" book. Joel _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

March 14, 2003

Upcoming meeting activities - ideas needed

by Andy Stewart

Hi everybody, I'm starting to plan for the next two or three WLUG meetings. I wanted to have them planned in advance, as I did with the first few meetings of the year 2003. Here's a summary of what we did (or tried to do): Jan 03 - Handhelds and Linux with Wes Allen's IPAQ (good meeting!) Feb 03 - LAN Party (not well attended, unfortunately) Mar 03 - maddog speaks to WLUG Can somebody tell me why the LAN party was not well attended? I'd like to plan meetings that you folks *want* to attend. :-) I hope to schedule activities for the April, May, and June meetings. Here are some ideas which I've culled from past e-mails on this subject: o security / ip tables meeting / firewalls (should we ask Bob Ziegler to return?) o printer drivers, namely gimp-print or foomatic If you have other ideas, or if you would like to volunteer to give a talk, please let me (or the list) know. Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 14, 2003

Reminder: Upcoming meeting Wed. March 26th 7 PM

by Andy Stewart

Hi Everybody, I'm sending out this reminder early in the hope that we'll have alot of people coming to this WLUG meeting. At this meeting, our guest speaker will be Jon 'maddog' Hall. maddog is the executive director of Linux International and a great speaker. He has spoken at two (or three?) previous WLUG meeting and we're happy to have him back again. The meeting will be held in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA (the usual place). If you need directions, they can be found on the WLUG website. Light refreshments will be served, and I'll bring a couple of items for the free (as in beer) raffle. After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza and beer at the Boynton Restaurant. Please pass the word around to all of your Linux friends! Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 14, 2003

Article: MA DOR considering Linux

by Andy Stewart

http://www.masshightech.com/displayarticledetail.asp?art_id=62051&cat_id=3 -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 11, 2003

Re: [Wlug] funny

by Wes Allen

On Tuesday 11 March 2003 9:13 am, Keller, Tim wrote: > What would be even funnier if at the bottom there was a little "Made with > pride on a MAC using Adobe Illustrator" If it said that I think I would have stroked out from laughter. Wes > > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wes Allen [mailto:wallen@charter.net] > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:28 AM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] funny > > On Tuesday 11 March 2003 12:59 am, Keith Wright wrote: > > > From: Wes Allen <wallen(a)charter.net> > > > > > > I've got somethign to make you smile.... > > > > It didn't work. > > > > > Go to NHL.com and take a REAL good look at the page...... > > > Is it just me or does one of the logos seem out of place? > > > > OK, I just spent more time reading the Sports Page in the last > > 90 seconds than I have in the preceding five years, I see a Sun > > logo and a MSN logo and a bunch of stuff I don't care about at > > all. Maybe it's just you, or maybe it's your browser, or maybe > > they changed the page before I got to see the funny blooper. > > > > What am I supposed to be looking for? > > You don't find "part of the msn network....powered by sun" funny? > > Wes > > > -- Keith > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

March 11, 2003

RE: [Wlug] funny

by Keller, Tim

What would be even funnier if at the bottom there was a little "Made with pride on a MAC using Adobe Illustrator" Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Wes Allen [mailto:wallen@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:28 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] funny On Tuesday 11 March 2003 12:59 am, Keith Wright wrote: > > From: Wes Allen <wallen(a)charter.net> > > > > I've got somethign to make you smile.... > > It didn't work. > > > Go to NHL.com and take a REAL good look at the page...... > > Is it just me or does one of the logos seem out of place? > > OK, I just spent more time reading the Sports Page in the last > 90 seconds than I have in the preceding five years, I see a Sun > logo and a MSN logo and a bunch of stuff I don't care about at > all. Maybe it's just you, or maybe it's your browser, or maybe > they changed the page before I got to see the funny blooper. > > What am I supposed to be looking for? You don't find "part of the msn network....powered by sun" funny? Wes > > -- Keith > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 11, 2003

Re: [Wlug] funny

by Wes Allen

On Tuesday 11 March 2003 12:59 am, Keith Wright wrote: > > From: Wes Allen <wallen(a)charter.net> > > > > I've got somethign to make you smile.... > > It didn't work. > > > Go to NHL.com and take a REAL good look at the page...... > > Is it just me or does one of the logos seem out of place? > > OK, I just spent more time reading the Sports Page in the last > 90 seconds than I have in the preceding five years, I see a Sun > logo and a MSN logo and a bunch of stuff I don't care about at > all. Maybe it's just you, or maybe it's your browser, or maybe > they changed the page before I got to see the funny blooper. > > What am I supposed to be looking for? You don't find "part of the msn network....powered by sun" funny? Wes > > -- Keith > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

March 11, 2003

Re: [Wlug] funny

by Keith Wright

> From: Wes Allen <wallen(a)charter.net> > > I've got somethign to make you smile.... It didn't work. > Go to NHL.com and take a REAL good look at the page...... > Is it just me or does one of the logos seem out of place? OK, I just spent more time reading the Sports Page in the last 90 seconds than I have in the preceding five years, I see a Sun logo and a MSN logo and a bunch of stuff I don't care about at all. Maybe it's just you, or maybe it's your browser, or maybe they changed the page before I got to see the funny blooper. What am I supposed to be looking for? -- Keith

March 11, 2003

funny

by Wes Allen

Hi everyone, I've got somethign to make you smile.... Go to NHL.com and take a REAL good look at the page...... Is it just me or does one of the logos seem out of place? :-) Wes -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

March 11, 2003

Re: [Wlug] reaction-diffusion program

by Gregory Avedissian

Andy, This program makes some pretty neat graphics, but it's very limited. I can choose the number of cells in x and y axes, and it makes spots or stripes. I have a qualitative understanding of it, but I don't know the math. A friend of mine said she'd look around for a book that explains it. Greg Andy Stewart wrote: > On Wednesday 05 March 2003 7:07 pm, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > >>Got it! I have to run two x servers at the same time (didn't know I >>could do that), the first one in TrueColor and the second in PseudoColor >>by starting the second one with >>startx -- :1 -bpp 8 > > > HI Greg, > > I'm glad to hear that you got it working! > > >>and the program runs ok. This is cool. Now all I need to do is figure >>out what reaction-diffusion means. > > > Darn, I was almost impressed that you knew what reaction-diffusion meant. Now > you went and burst my bubble. :-) > > If you want to see another cool program where the math will send you for a > loop but it makes neat looking graphical figures, try surf. Also, rasmol is > neat if you are into molecular modeling, or just looking a cool geeky looking > pictures. :-) > > Later, > > Andy

March 7, 2003

Re: [Wlug] reaction-diffusion program

by Andy Stewart

On Wednesday 05 March 2003 7:07 pm, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > Got it! I have to run two x servers at the same time (didn't know I > could do that), the first one in TrueColor and the second in PseudoColor > by starting the second one with > startx -- :1 -bpp 8 HI Greg, I'm glad to hear that you got it working! > > and the program runs ok. This is cool. Now all I need to do is figure > out what reaction-diffusion means. Darn, I was almost impressed that you knew what reaction-diffusion meant. Now you went and burst my bubble. :-) If you want to see another cool program where the math will send you for a loop but it makes neat looking graphical figures, try surf. Also, rasmol is neat if you are into molecular modeling, or just looking a cool geeky looking pictures. :-) Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 7, 2003

Re: [Wlug] reaction-diffusion program

by Gregory Avedissian

Got it! I have to run two x servers at the same time (didn't know I could do that), the first one in TrueColor and the second in PseudoColor by starting the second one with startx -- :1 -bpp 8 and the program runs ok. This is cool. Now all I need to do is figure out what reaction-diffusion means. I saw the math for it, and um, it looks like Greek to me. Anybody know anything about patterns of animal coat spots/stripes? Can anyone here figure out the mathematics of acupuncture point locations? (I know, I'm in way over my head here.) Greg Gregory Avedissian wrote: > I'm running in TrueColor, and I'm already in fvwm2. Same thing in twm. I > don't know anything about vnc, and I can't find anything about it on my > computer (help, man or apropos). Can't find anything about PseudoColor, > either. How do I switch it? Thanks. > > Greg > > > Steve Freitag wrote: > >> Here are a couple of things to check: >> >> - XAllocColorCells works with a PseudoColor visual. >> You may be running in TrueColor. Use xdpyinfo to find out. >> (grep for Color) >> - If you are in PseudoColor mode, you might not have enough >> free colors left. You might want to start a plain X session >> (no netscape etc) with a window manager like fvwm or twm. >> If you are familiar with vnc, you can start a vncserver in >> PseudoColor mode using the -cc 3 option. You may also >> want to modify xstartup (in your .vnc directory) to >> invoke a simpler xinitrc which starts fvwm or twm. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On >> Behalf >> Of Gregory Avedissian >> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:43 AM >> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> Subject: [Wlug] reaction-diffusion program >> >> I'm trying to run a reaction-diffusion modeling program. Below is the >> link to the tarball. I was able to install it after editing the >> makefile (added -LX11R6 to the LIBS section, per generic >> instructions I found on a google search for the error message I got >> when make failed.) >> >> Here's the current problem: When I try to run the program with the >> sample parameters given in the readme.txt, I get the error message, >> "bad status from XAllocColorCells >> Segmentation fault" >> >> Note: I get occasional segmentation faults, possibly due to a flaky >> power supply. Those seem to be less frequent since I vacuumed the dust >> and cat hair out of the box. >> >> >> Here's a link to the tarball, in case anyone has the time or >> inclination to mess with it and/or offer advice. Oh yeah, I'm running >> SuSE 7.2. >> http://www.gvu.gatech.edu/people/faculty/greg.turk/reaction_diffusion/code/r >> >> eaction_diffusion.tar >> >> >> Thanks, >> Greg >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 6, 2003

Re: [Wlug] shared calendar (web-based)?

by Brett Russ

Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I already have an old web calendar program, which works, but I'm not > very enthusiastic about it. Does anyone have a recommendation of a > web tool that will work? Ping pong is very important in the workplace. Nothing short of a high end time scheduling software package should do. However, given the budget requirements for the former, I would recommend and have been using Webcalendar on my site and like it so far: http://webcalendar.sourceforge.net/ There is a live demo there as well, but sometimes the language is not english. In that case, find the link for the login, demo/demo is usr/pw, and then find the link for prefs where you can change it to english. BR

March 5, 2003

Re: [Wlug] reaction-diffusion program

by Gregory Avedissian

I'm running in TrueColor, and I'm already in fvwm2. Same thing in twm. I don't know anything about vnc, and I can't find anything about it on my computer (help, man or apropos). Can't find anything about PseudoColor, either. How do I switch it? Thanks. Greg Steve Freitag wrote: > Here are a couple of things to check: > > - XAllocColorCells works with a PseudoColor visual. > You may be running in TrueColor. Use xdpyinfo to find out. > (grep for Color) > - If you are in PseudoColor mode, you might not have enough > free colors left. You might want to start a plain X session > (no netscape etc) with a window manager like fvwm or twm. > > If you are familiar with vnc, you can start a vncserver > in PseudoColor mode using the -cc 3 option. You may also > want to modify xstartup (in your .vnc directory) to > invoke a simpler xinitrc which starts fvwm or twm. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf > Of Gregory Avedissian > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:43 AM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] reaction-diffusion program > > I'm trying to run a reaction-diffusion modeling program. Below is the > link to the tarball. I was able to install it after editing the makefile > (added -LX11R6 to the LIBS section, per generic instructions I found > on a google search for the error message I got when make failed.) > > Here's the current problem: When I try to run the program with the > sample parameters given in the readme.txt, I get the error message, > "bad status from XAllocColorCells > Segmentation fault" > > Note: I get occasional segmentation faults, possibly due to a flaky > power supply. Those seem to be less frequent since I vacuumed the dust > and cat hair out of the box. > > > Here's a link to the tarball, in case anyone has the time or inclination > to mess with it and/or offer advice. Oh yeah, I'm running SuSE 7.2. > http://www.gvu.gatech.edu/people/faculty/greg.turk/reaction_diffusion/code/r > eaction_diffusion.tar > > > Thanks, > Greg > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 5, 2003

RE: [Wlug] reaction-diffusion program

by Steve Freitag

Here are a couple of things to check: - XAllocColorCells works with a PseudoColor visual. You may be running in TrueColor. Use xdpyinfo to find out. (grep for Color) - If you are in PseudoColor mode, you might not have enough free colors left. You might want to start a plain X session (no netscape etc) with a window manager like fvwm or twm. If you are familiar with vnc, you can start a vncserver in PseudoColor mode using the -cc 3 option. You may also want to modify xstartup (in your .vnc directory) to invoke a simpler xinitrc which starts fvwm or twm. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Avedissian Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:43 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] reaction-diffusion program I'm trying to run a reaction-diffusion modeling program. Below is the link to the tarball. I was able to install it after editing the makefile (added -LX11R6 to the LIBS section, per generic instructions I found on a google search for the error message I got when make failed.) Here's the current problem: When I try to run the program with the sample parameters given in the readme.txt, I get the error message, "bad status from XAllocColorCells Segmentation fault" Note: I get occasional segmentation faults, possibly due to a flaky power supply. Those seem to be less frequent since I vacuumed the dust and cat hair out of the box. Here's a link to the tarball, in case anyone has the time or inclination to mess with it and/or offer advice. Oh yeah, I'm running SuSE 7.2. http://www.gvu.gatech.edu/people/faculty/greg.turk/reaction_diffusion/code/r eaction_diffusion.tar Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 5, 2003

Re: [Wlug] reaction-diffusion program

by Gregory Avedissian

Andy Stewart wrote: > On Tuesday 04 March 2003 11:42 am, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > >>Here's the current problem: When I try to run the program with the >>sample parameters given in the readme.txt, I get the error message, >>"bad status from XAllocColorCells >>Segmentation fault" > > > Just a thought....if you bring up X with a different number of colors, does > that effect the problem? I would advise trying them all (8, 16, 32) and see > if the result is the same in each case. > > Later, > > Andy > Thanks, Andy. I tried 8, 16 and 24. Can't seem to get 32 to stick. I think that's a limitation of my vid card if I remember correctly. Anyway, there was no difference. I get a quick flash like a window is opening, then it disappears and I get the error message. Greg

March 5, 2003

Re: [Wlug] reaction-diffusion program

by Andy Stewart

On Tuesday 04 March 2003 11:42 am, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > Here's the current problem: When I try to run the program with the > sample parameters given in the readme.txt, I get the error message, > "bad status from XAllocColorCells > Segmentation fault" Just a thought....if you bring up X with a different number of colors, does that effect the problem? I would advise trying them all (8, 16, 32) and see if the result is the same in each case. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 4, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Samba shares

by Michael Long

It turned out that there was a file that was a soft link to another in that directory. I guess that that confused windows. I would have expected windows to copy all but that linked file, but nooooo!!! it had to fail with a very nondescript error that was useless. <sarcasm>I just love windows</sarcasm> Mike > on the linux system checkt he permissions of the sub directories.. > Have read and execute permmmisions? > > On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Michael Long wrote: > > > > > I have a directory which has been shared out using samba. I now need to > > move some of those files including subdirectories to a windows box > > running windows 2000 server. From the windows box I can copy files from > > the samba share but the subdirectories on the samba share fail to copy. > > Is this a samba issue or a winblows issue? Any help is appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > Cell: 508-517-4819 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > Many people write memos to tell you they have nothing to say. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

March 4, 2003

Re: [Wlug] shared calendar (web-based)?

by Wesley Allen

On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 10:02, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I have some guys I work with who would like to be able to use a > web-based tool to help schedule ping-pong games. Part of the > requirement is that the players don't always have a partner and they > would like to advertise available times so that someone else is > encouraged to arrange a match with them. > > I already have an old web calendar program, which works, but I'm not > very enthusiastic about it. Does anyone have a recommendation of a > web tool that will work? > > FYI, I'm running Red Hat 8.0. > try phpgroupware. Wes > TIA, > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 4, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Samba shares

by Karl Hiramoto

on the linux system checkt he permissions of the sub directories.. Have read and execute permmmisions? On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Michael Long wrote: > > I have a directory which has been shared out using samba. I now need to > move some of those files including subdirectories to a windows box > running windows 2000 server. From the windows box I can copy files from > the samba share but the subdirectories on the samba share fail to copy. > Is this a samba issue or a winblows issue? Any help is appreciated. > > Thanks, > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Many people write memos to tell you they have nothing to say.

March 4, 2003

Samba shares

by Michael Long

I have a directory which has been shared out using samba. I now need to move some of those files including subdirectories to a windows box running windows 2000 server. From the windows box I can copy files from the samba share but the subdirectories on the samba share fail to copy. Is this a samba issue or a winblows issue? Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Mike

March 4, 2003

reaction-diffusion program

by Gregory Avedissian

I'm trying to run a reaction-diffusion modeling program. Below is the link to the tarball. I was able to install it after editing the makefile (added -LX11R6 to the LIBS section, per generic instructions I found on a google search for the error message I got when make failed.) Here's the current problem: When I try to run the program with the sample parameters given in the readme.txt, I get the error message, "bad status from XAllocColorCells Segmentation fault" Note: I get occasional segmentation faults, possibly due to a flaky power supply. Those seem to be less frequent since I vacuumed the dust and cat hair out of the box. Here's a link to the tarball, in case anyone has the time or inclination to mess with it and/or offer advice. Oh yeah, I'm running SuSE 7.2. http://www.gvu.gatech.edu/people/faculty/greg.turk/reaction_diffusion/code/… Thanks, Greg

March 4, 2003

shared calendar (web-based)?

by Bill Mills-Curran

I have some guys I work with who would like to be able to use a web-based tool to help schedule ping-pong games. Part of the requirement is that the players don't always have a partner and they would like to advertise available times so that someone else is encouraged to arrange a match with them. I already have an old web calendar program, which works, but I'm not very enthusiastic about it. Does anyone have a recommendation of a web tool that will work? FYI, I'm running Red Hat 8.0. TIA, Bill

March 4, 2003

RE: [Wlug] Java Question...

by Peter Nikolla

Steve Try class Runtime use Runtime.getRuntime(). This will let you interact with you environment. Process process = Runtime.getRuntime().exec(mCmdArray, mEnvp, mDir); Peter N. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Daukas, Stephen C Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:40 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Java Question... Hey guys! I have a really short Java question for you... How does one make a system call from Java? I want to be able to run a Linux command, e.g., System("command"); in C. The idea behind this is that I'm writing an example Java program to install an application, for example Postfix, that I may want to use as an example for Students... Later! Steve _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 4, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Java Question...

by Karl Hiramoto

Try googing for it? I did "java system call exec" and got http://stein.cshl.org/jade/distrib/docs/java.lang.Runtime.html#exec(java.la… Does that work? There might be issues with the VM security. But this is a linux list :) On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Daukas, Stephen C wrote: > > Hey guys! > > I have a really short Java question for you... How does one make a system > call from Java? I want to be able to run a Linux command, e.g., > System("command"); in C. > > The idea behind this is that I'm writing an example Java program to install > an application, for example Postfix, that I may want to use as an example for > Students... > > Later! > Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Neutrinos have bad breadth.

March 3, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Simple Java Question...

by Peter Gutowski

<opinion confidencelevel="pretty-sure">I don't believe there's a direct way of doing that in Java. </opinion> But, inspite of the fact that it flys in the face of platform independence and security, you could write a class with native methods that could do that. Just don't tell anyone. -Peter On Monday, March 3, 2003 11:55 AM, Stephen Daukas <stephen(a)daukas.com> wrote: > >Hey guys! > >I have a really short Java question for you... How does one make a >system call from Java? I want to be able to run a Linux command as I >would in C, e.g., System("command"); > >The idea behind this is that I'm writing an example Java program to >install an application, for example Postfix, that I may want to use as >an example for Students... > >Later! >Steve -- Peter Gutowski - peter(a)linuxchamps.com - 413-531-0123 Carpenter's Axiom: Measure twice, cut once.

March 3, 2003

redhat 8.1 guesstmate?

by Karl Hiramoto

Anyone out there have a feeling for when it's going to hit the FTP sites? Final beta done testing? I have a machine to install, an it feels like if a wait a week 8.1 might be out. -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø You have no real enemies.

March 3, 2003

Simple Java Question...

by Stephen Daukas

Hey guys! I have a really short Java question for you... How does one make a system call from Java? I want to be able to run a Linux command as I would in C, e.g., System("command"); The idea behind this is that I'm writing an example Java program to install an application, for example Postfix, that I may want to use as an example for Students... Later! Steve

March 3, 2003

Java Question...

by Daukas, Stephen C

Hey guys! I have a really short Java question for you... How does one make a system call from Java? I want to be able to run a Linux command, e.g., System("command"); in C. The idea behind this is that I'm writing an example Java program to install an application, for example Postfix, that I may want to use as an example for Students... Later! Steve

March 3, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Make the diffrence!

by aramico＠duahati.com

----- Original Message ----- From: <aramico(a)duahati.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: [Wlug] Make the diffrence! > Hi all, > > Can you please tell me how can I make a line that will not proccessed in > file named /etc/passwd. > There are so many users in my machine, what I want to do is I want to > clasisfication the user with a defined title, > so by this, I can easily see where the user is according the definition that > I'll make. > > > Eg in file /etc/passwd > > I want to make like this > > > # Europe - Jakarta > # South Asia - Jakarta > # Australia - Jakarta > > I want to put that words as comment in file /etc/passwd > > Can you friends tell me how to make it ? > > > > Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 28, 2003

Make the diffrence!

by aramico＠duahati.com

Hi all, Can you please tell me how can I make a line that will not proccessed in file named /etc/passwd. There are so many users in my machine, what I want to do is I want to clasisfication the user with a defined title, so by this, I can easily see where the user is according the definition that I'll make. Eg in file /etc/passwd I want to make like this # Europe - Jakarta # South Asia - Jakarta # Australia - Jakarta I want to put that words as comment in file /etc/passwd Can you friends tell me how to make it ? Thanks.

Feb. 28, 2003

Re: [Wlug] SPARC and modems...

by Charles R. Anderson

Aurora SPARC Linux 1.0 (based on Red Hat Linux 7.3) is out, too: http://www.auroralinux.org/ ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/aurora/build-1.0 On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 02:53:05PM -0500, Scott Venier wrote: scott> As for a distro, I'd recomend Debian. Use testing, stable is antique. scott> scott> On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, William Smith wrote: scott> scott> > I have a SPARCstation 10 with RH 6.2 loaded. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Feb. 24, 2003

Re: [Wlug] SPARC and modems...

by Scott Venier

I can't help with the modem issue, other then to say make sure your flow control settings match. As for a distro, I'd recomend Debian. Use testing, stable is antique. Scott On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, William Smith wrote: > I have a SPARCstation 10 with RH 6.2 loaded. > > I am trying to get it configured as an Internet gateway, but the big hurdle I am trying to jump over right now is the modem communication. > > I have checked the PROM settings and they match what I am using minicom with: 57600-8N1. (I am trying to use minicom to debug serial connection with the modem.) > > When I send commands to the modem, I see the modem is getting information, but it doesn't look like the modem is responding. I don't see an OK reply, much less any other sign of life... > > The modem in question is a Zoom 56k (it is the one I usually use to connect to the 'Net with, and it has worked with Linux and my ISP flawlessly in the recent past). > > Once I get past this, then I can look at making sure PPP works (which I anticipate to be a relatively minor ordeal, since I have a pretty good idea what to do), and then firewall stuff. > > While I think of it, would anyone know of any distributions with more-recent SPARC support? I'd like to see 2.4.x kernels with iptable support, as well as more up-to-date tools, but seeing as this beastie is on the "slow" side, recompiling everything myself would be tantamount to torture.... 8( > > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > > William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com > Fall River, MA www.chezsmith.com > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 24, 2003

SPARC and modems...

by William Smith

I have a SPARCstation 10 with RH 6.2 loaded. I am trying to get it configured as an Internet gateway, but the big hurdle I am trying to jump over right now is the modem communication. I have checked the PROM settings and they match what I am using minicom with: 57600-8N1. (I am trying to use minicom to debug serial connection with the modem.) When I send commands to the modem, I see the modem is getting information, but it doesn't look like the modem is responding. I don't see an OK reply, much less any other sign of life... The modem in question is a Zoom 56k (it is the one I usually use to connect to the 'Net with, and it has worked with Linux and my ISP flawlessly in the recent past). Once I get past this, then I can look at making sure PPP works (which I anticipate to be a relatively minor ordeal, since I have a pretty good idea what to do), and then firewall stuff. While I think of it, would anyone know of any distributions with more-recent SPARC support? I'd like to see 2.4.x kernels with iptable support, as well as more up-to-date tools, but seeing as this beastie is on the "slow" side, recompiling everything myself would be tantamount to torture.... 8( Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA www.chezsmith.com

Feb. 24, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Two Linux Employment Opportunities

by Michael Long

Oops...I didn't mean to reply to the list for this. Please accept my appologies. -mike > > Hi Andy, > > I would be interested at taking a look at them. > > Thanks, > Mike > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > I have a couple of job descriptions available for Linux software > engineering > > positions. If you are interested, please send me e-mail and I'll send > you > > the details. > > > > Later, > > > > Andy > > > > -- > > Andy Stewart, Founder > > Worcester Linux Users' Group > > Worcester, MA USA > > http://www.wlug.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

Feb. 21, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Two Linux Employment Opportunities

by Michael Long

Hi Andy, I would be interested at taking a look at them. Thanks, Mike > > Hi everybody, > > I have a couple of job descriptions available for Linux software engineering > positions. If you are interested, please send me e-mail and I'll send you > the details. > > Later, > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

Feb. 21, 2003

Two Linux Employment Opportunities

by Andy Stewart

Hi everybody, I have a couple of job descriptions available for Linux software engineering positions. If you are interested, please send me e-mail and I'll send you the details. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 21, 2003

Non Linux mozilla issue

by Adam Keck

Here at MW we are blessed with Solaris workstations in addition to Linux. On Solaris 8 we have been unable to get the binary version from mozilla.org to run. It dies silently trying to load gtk. I compiled and installed gtk from gtk.org to no avail. Anyone run into this? Have any hints? Thanks very much, -Adam "lingua machinationis creo, ergo sum" _____________________________________________ Adam Keck The Mathworks 508-647-7298 Natick, Ma www.mathworks.com FreeNIX/Backup/Unix Administrator _____________________________________________

Feb. 20, 2003

Re: [Wlug] I need to run some win apps

by Chuck Homic

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:46:52AM -0500, Geoff wrote: > I'm still trying to find an equivalent for some of them. When it > comes to E-mail migrating old msg's is the problem. Others are just what > I'm use too :) Email is a cake walk, if your client supports imap. (If it doesn't, I cry for you...) Anyway, just upload all your mail to an imap server, and download it with your client of choice. I've de-outlooked many folks' mailboxes that way. -Chuck

Feb. 19, 2003

RE: [Wlug] I need to run some win apps

by Geoff

At 08:13 AM 02/19/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Are you looking to actually run those programs, or just for equivelant >solutions for those uses? I'm still trying to find an equivalent for some of them. When it comes to E-mail migrating old msg's is the problem. Others are just what I'm use too :) I'll take a look at the links and play around some more before I do to much. I still need to do some minor upgrading before I switch so that Linux will be easier to install :) (Tim K. Don't worry this will be a basic client only install - for now :) ) We'll see this will probably take a month to get things rolling. Geoffrey Phillips Flat: (+1) (508) 755-8439 gphillips(a)clarkie.net (Professional)

Feb. 19, 2003

Re: [Wlug] I need to run some win apps

by John

On Wednesday 19 February 2003 01:38, Geoff wrote: > Hi, > > I need to run a few windows applications on Linux. I was wondering > if anyone has any suggestions. The programs are: > Palm Desktop 4.1 > Eudora 5.2 > And a couple of programs to programs 2 different ham radios. > > As for the linux setup. We'll have to wait and see the answer - I'm doing a > fresh install on a new computer (will there be an install feast anytime > soon?). I'm thinking Mandrake. Palm desktop should be no problem with Mandrake. I was running a Palm on Suse no problem last year. If you're using a recent Linux distribution I'm sure the programs have been upgraded now with newer features. I'm using a Zaurus PDA now so I'm not that up to date on Palm. Eudora, someone in this thread mentioned a program on converting mail files give it a try. Some additional info in the link below on converting and exporting Eudora to the most popular mail and news type programs http://mango.human.cornell.edu/kens/MoreFAQ.html#Convert John "Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference." -- Robert Frost

Feb. 19, 2003

RE: [Wlug] I need to run some win apps

by Marc Hughes

Hiya Geoff! Are you looking to actually run those programs, or just for equivelant solutions for those uses? If it's the later, I'd strongly suggest checking out Evolution for Email & PIM (palm) functions. http://www.ximian.com/products/evolution/ And you could convert your old Eurdora email file to evolution format with http://freshmeat.net/projects/ceiconvert/?topic_id=28%2C87 A native app will usually be a lot nicer to use, than emulating a windows app. If you absolutely need THOSE apps, you can try wine, which works with some apps, mileage may vary. Or you can use VMWare which will actually emulate an entire computer and let you install windows on that emulated computer. (VMWare is commercial software). There's other options, but those are the 2 that stick out in my mind. Now ... I know nothing about HAM radio, so I'll just say that if you really need to run those specific windows apps, you might have a hard time since (I'm assuming) they somehow talk to the funky hardware. But there are some native apps out there... http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=HAM+radio&section=projects&x=0&y=0 Just a few thoughts. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:39 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] I need to run some win apps Hi, I need to run a few windows applications on Linux. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions. The programs are: Palm Desktop 4.1 Eudora 5.2 And a couple of programs to programs 2 different ham radios. As for the linux setup. We'll have to wait and see the answer - I'm doing a fresh install on a new computer (will there be an install feast anytime soon?). I'm thinking Mandrake. Geoffrey Phillips gphillips(a)clarkie.net (Professional) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 19, 2003

I need to run some win apps

by Geoff

Hi, I need to run a few windows applications on Linux. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions. The programs are: Palm Desktop 4.1 Eudora 5.2 And a couple of programs to programs 2 different ham radios. As for the linux setup. We'll have to wait and see the answer - I'm doing a fresh install on a new computer (will there be an install feast anytime soon?). I'm thinking Mandrake. Geoffrey Phillips gphillips(a)clarkie.net (Professional)

Feb. 19, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Meeting over the Access Grid?

by Wes Allen

On Tuesday 18 February 2003 10:58 am, Frank Sweetser wrote: > As a few of you may already know, WPI has just recently installed an Access > Grid Node. For those of you who have never heard of the Access Grid > project, it's a completely immersive video conferencing system - like > traditional videoconferencing, but arranged such that the technology > portion becomes invisible, and you can converse with others as if they were > in the same room. More details at http://www.accessgrid.org/ > > My idea was that if we could find a couple of remote sites with people who > might be interested in joining us, we could have a meeting over the Access > Grid. That would be COOL! Wes > > A list of other Access Grid sites is up at > http://www-fp.mcs.anl.gov/fl/accessgrid/nodes.htm and includes BU at least. > If anyone knows anyone else at any of these sites who would be interested, > we can start seeing about scheduling the time needed in all of the spaces. -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Feb. 18, 2003

Meeting over the Access Grid?

by Frank Sweetser

As a few of you may already know, WPI has just recently installed an Access Grid Node. For those of you who have never heard of the Access Grid project, it's a completely immersive video conferencing system - like traditional videoconferencing, but arranged such that the technology portion becomes invisible, and you can converse with others as if they were in the same room. More details at http://www.accessgrid.org/ My idea was that if we could find a couple of remote sites with people who might be interested in joining us, we could have a meeting over the Access Grid. A list of other Access Grid sites is up at http://www-fp.mcs.anl.gov/fl/accessgrid/nodes.htm and includes BU at least. If anyone knows anyone else at any of these sites who would be interested, we can start seeing about scheduling the time needed in all of the spaces. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer

Feb. 18, 2003

Educational Linux ... WAS: REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !!

by Marc Hughes

Speaking about linux in education ... I work for Tom Snyder Productions (a Scholastic company) (www.tomsnyder.com) we make Educational software for schools. Recently we started using a toolkit for windows/mac portability that also happens to have every kind of unix support you could want. (you can probably guess what toolkit it is). So us geeky engineers have been pushing for a linux port, even if it's an unsupported port. So we went to customer service to see how many linux requests there were ... 0, zero, nadda, zilch. And we have a very in-depth customer relations database, every call gets logged. We asked around a bit, and found that it probably wouldn't work. It seems schools using linux are usually doing it because they are trying to save every penny. Kind of hard to sell software to schools like that. But at least we found out there's a lot of linux fileservers out there, so we're QA'ing serving our network products from them. (you'd be surprised at the wide varriances in file-locking between servers & protocols!) So I guess the moral of the story, call you congressmen ... Err... Um...call your software vendors, you never know when they might be listening. Oh well, -Marc -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Stephen C. Daukas Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:33 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! Sorry - I thought I was sending that to just Andy... My bad... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Stephen C. Daukas Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:17 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! We should probably talk about Mad Dog and Linux in education... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:36 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! HI Everybody, The next WLUG meeting will be held this coming Wednesday, February 19th, 2003 in a different location. The meeting room will be AK233 (Atwater Kent room 233). Please refer to the Wlug Meetings...Directions link for directions to this room. The building is right next to Salisbury Labs on the WPI campus. Please note the earlier start time of 6:00 PM ! At this meeting, we'll be having a LAN party ! This is WLUG's first LAN party so I'm curious to see what people bring. You'll need to bring your network gear (hubs, switches, cables) and a laptop or desktop machine with networking enabled. We'll interconnect all of the machines to create one big WLUG LAN. I'll bring my PLIP cable for the masochists in the crowd. This network most likely will *not* have access to the Internet (but we'll see what we can do). On this LAN, all sorts of activities could take place, such as multiplayer games, network security scans, attempts to (non-destructively!) crack another persons system to teach them about their security weaknesses, and more. Its really up to all of you and your imaginations as to what we can do with this type of setup. I'll even entertain doing a couple of network based Linux installations if folks want that. If people need help configuring their systems for networking, that help will be available. I'll also be available to do a demonstration of VNC for those interested. The possibilities are really endless. Due to the amount of time to setup such a LAN and still have time to have fun with it, I've extended the time of the WLUG meeting from 6:00 PM - 9:00 PM (note earlier start time!). Have a lot of fun, and I'll see you all on Wednesday. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 18, 2003

RE: [Wlug] Next meeting ...

by Marc Hughes

I got cube working on my laptop over the weekend, it's a lot nicer than I would have thought for a non-commercial FPS. http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/ -Marc -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Wesley Allen Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 7:26 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Next meeting ... I can't do anything 3d on my laptop, Kohan is always nice... Wes On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 11:47, Marc Hughes wrote: > So LAN party next meeting ... I'd love to get into the security stuff > & some of the gaming .. > > But for the gaming ... what are people planning on bringing or > planning on playing? Figure I should get those working on my laptop > before I show up. Personally, I'd love to see the games that you > can't play on windows. > > -Marc > > -- > > www.geek4.com - News by anyone! > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 18, 2003

RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !!

by Stephen C. Daukas

Sorry - I thought I was sending that to just Andy... My bad... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Stephen C. Daukas Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:17 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! We should probably talk about Mad Dog and Linux in education... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:36 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! HI Everybody, The next WLUG meeting will be held this coming Wednesday, February 19th, 2003 in a different location. The meeting room will be AK233 (Atwater Kent room 233). Please refer to the Wlug Meetings...Directions link for directions to this room. The building is right next to Salisbury Labs on the WPI campus. Please note the earlier start time of 6:00 PM ! At this meeting, we'll be having a LAN party ! This is WLUG's first LAN party so I'm curious to see what people bring. You'll need to bring your network gear (hubs, switches, cables) and a laptop or desktop machine with networking enabled. We'll interconnect all of the machines to create one big WLUG LAN. I'll bring my PLIP cable for the masochists in the crowd. This network most likely will *not* have access to the Internet (but we'll see what we can do). On this LAN, all sorts of activities could take place, such as multiplayer games, network security scans, attempts to (non-destructively!) crack another persons system to teach them about their security weaknesses, and more. Its really up to all of you and your imaginations as to what we can do with this type of setup. I'll even entertain doing a couple of network based Linux installations if folks want that. If people need help configuring their systems for networking, that help will be available. I'll also be available to do a demonstration of VNC for those interested. The possibilities are really endless. Due to the amount of time to setup such a LAN and still have time to have fun with it, I've extended the time of the WLUG meeting from 6:00 PM - 9:00 PM (note earlier start time!). Have a lot of fun, and I'll see you all on Wednesday. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 18, 2003

RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !!

by Stephen C. Daukas

We should probably talk about Mad Dog and Linux in education... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:36 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! HI Everybody, The next WLUG meeting will be held this coming Wednesday, February 19th, 2003 in a different location. The meeting room will be AK233 (Atwater Kent room 233). Please refer to the Wlug Meetings...Directions link for directions to this room. The building is right next to Salisbury Labs on the WPI campus. Please note the earlier start time of 6:00 PM ! At this meeting, we'll be having a LAN party ! This is WLUG's first LAN party so I'm curious to see what people bring. You'll need to bring your network gear (hubs, switches, cables) and a laptop or desktop machine with networking enabled. We'll interconnect all of the machines to create one big WLUG LAN. I'll bring my PLIP cable for the masochists in the crowd. This network most likely will *not* have access to the Internet (but we'll see what we can do). On this LAN, all sorts of activities could take place, such as multiplayer games, network security scans, attempts to (non-destructively!) crack another persons system to teach them about their security weaknesses, and more. Its really up to all of you and your imaginations as to what we can do with this type of setup. I'll even entertain doing a couple of network based Linux installations if folks want that. If people need help configuring their systems for networking, that help will be available. I'll also be available to do a demonstration of VNC for those interested. The possibilities are really endless. Due to the amount of time to setup such a LAN and still have time to have fun with it, I've extended the time of the WLUG meeting from 6:00 PM - 9:00 PM (note earlier start time!). Have a lot of fun, and I'll see you all on Wednesday. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 18, 2003

REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !!

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, The next WLUG meeting will be held this coming Wednesday, February 19th, 2003 in a different location. The meeting room will be AK233 (Atwater Kent room 233). Please refer to the Wlug Meetings...Directions link for directions to this room. The building is right next to Salisbury Labs on the WPI campus. Please note the earlier start time of 6:00 PM ! At this meeting, we'll be having a LAN party ! This is WLUG's first LAN party so I'm curious to see what people bring. You'll need to bring your network gear (hubs, switches, cables) and a laptop or desktop machine with networking enabled. We'll interconnect all of the machines to create one big WLUG LAN. I'll bring my PLIP cable for the masochists in the crowd. This network most likely will *not* have access to the Internet (but we'll see what we can do). On this LAN, all sorts of activities could take place, such as multiplayer games, network security scans, attempts to (non-destructively!) crack another persons system to teach them about their security weaknesses, and more. Its really up to all of you and your imaginations as to what we can do with this type of setup. I'll even entertain doing a couple of network based Linux installations if folks want that. If people need help configuring their systems for networking, that help will be available. I'll also be available to do a demonstration of VNC for those interested. The possibilities are really endless. Due to the amount of time to setup such a LAN and still have time to have fun with it, I've extended the time of the WLUG meeting from 6:00 PM - 9:00 PM (note earlier start time!). Have a lot of fun, and I'll see you all on Wednesday. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 17, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Next meeting ...

by Wesley Allen

I can't do anything 3d on my laptop, Kohan is always nice... Wes On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 11:47, Marc Hughes wrote: > So LAN party next meeting ... I'd love to get into the security stuff & > some of the gaming .. > > But for the gaming ... what are people planning on bringing or planning > on playing? Figure I should get those working on my laptop before I > show up. Personally, I'd love to see the games that you can't play on > windows. > > -Marc > > -- > > www.geek4.com - News by anyone! > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 17, 2003

Next meeting ...

by Marc Hughes

So LAN party next meeting ... I'd love to get into the security stuff & some of the gaming .. But for the gaming ... what are people planning on bringing or planning on playing? Figure I should get those working on my laptop before I show up. Personally, I'd love to see the games that you can't play on windows. -Marc -- www.geek4.com - News by anyone!

Feb. 14, 2003

RE: [Wlug] Sony floppy disk memory stick adapter

by Keller, Tim

I'd suspect that because the thing came with windows drivers that it looks close enough to an MSDOS filesystem that windows won't scream so much, but when it comes to actually interacting with the filesystem/toc on the device it's nothing like that at all... Can you fdisk the device and format it? Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 22:40 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] Sony floppy disk memory stick adapter Hi everybody, My brother-in-law just obtained a Sony floppy disk memory stick adapter (MSAC-FD2MA). You put a memory stick into this "thing" which then plugs into the floppy drive. He put it into the floppy drive and it mounted OK, but 'df' thinks the device is full when indeed its empty. There was a Windows driver supplied with it also. Attempts to copy files to it while mounted failed with errors indicative of no remaining space. Does anybody know anything about this little toy? I can't find anything on the net, but I'll keep looking. It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to figure out and make work with Linux, if one were so inclined. Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 13, 2003

RE: [Wlug] Sony floppy disk memory stick adapter

by Doug Geiger

I think this is related to the FlashPath - the SmartMedia floppy adapter (same idea - slightly different media). I vaguely recall trying to get the binary-only smartdisk module to work - and having some success. According to the press release (http://linuxpr.com/releases/1968.html) - LinuxCare developed the driver - which may also work with the memory stick version. Can't seem to find anyplace to actually download it from though. It was developed for Red Hat 6.1 - kernel 2.2.x - so even if you can find it, it probably won't work with anything recent. -- Doug Geiger runexe(a)bioradiation.net http://bioradiation.net/~runexe/ If you're crossing the nation in a covered wagon, it's better to have four strong oxen than 100 chickens. Chickens are OK but we can't make them work together yet. -- Ross Bott, Pyramid U.S., on multiprocessors at AUUGM '89. GNU Privacy Guard Fingerprint: E06F 00C8 50D3 19FC 6F6B 3F56 6B76 0762 DD37 4686 > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org > [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 10:40 PM > To: Worcester Linux Users' Group > Subject: [Wlug] Sony floppy disk memory stick adapter > > > > Hi everybody, > > My brother-in-law just obtained a Sony floppy disk memory > stick adapter > (MSAC-FD2MA). You put a memory stick into this "thing" which > then plugs into > the floppy drive. > > He put it into the floppy drive and it mounted OK, but 'df' > thinks the device > is full when indeed its empty. There was a Windows driver > supplied with it > also. Attempts to copy files to it while mounted failed with errors > indicative of no remaining space. > > Does anybody know anything about this little toy? I can't > find anything on > the net, but I'll keep looking. It doesn't seem like it > would be that hard > to figure out and make work with Linux, if one were so inclined. > > Thanks! > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Feb. 13, 2003

Sony floppy disk memory stick adapter

by Andy Stewart

Hi everybody, My brother-in-law just obtained a Sony floppy disk memory stick adapter (MSAC-FD2MA). You put a memory stick into this "thing" which then plugs into the floppy drive. He put it into the floppy drive and it mounted OK, but 'df' thinks the device is full when indeed its empty. There was a Windows driver supplied with it also. Attempts to copy files to it while mounted failed with errors indicative of no remaining space. Does anybody know anything about this little toy? I can't find anything on the net, but I'll keep looking. It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to figure out and make work with Linux, if one were so inclined. Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 13, 2003