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Partition Question

by Arturo

Hi all, I have a bunch of linux boxes that have the swap partitions that are not of type swap. They are type linux. The OS seems to be swapping just fine on this partition type. Some machines have swap partition that look like this from fdisk /dev/hda6 50810 52890 1048792+ 82 Linux swap Other machines have swap partitions that look like this. /dev/hda6 50810 52890 1048792+ 83 Linux Does anyone have experience with why it would or wouldn't cause issues? Does anyone know what it means to have a partition of type x or y? Is there a difference or is having a partition type mostly there for humans. I would have thought that the partition just defined the limits. Everything else depends on what you do with the partition as far as formatting and defining inodes/FATs and labels... Any ideas? Thanks, Arturo

May 10, 2005

Job opportunity

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI all, This job opportunity is in Acton, MA. If interested, please contact the recruiter (Peter Hayward) directly. Andy - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: PLIP presentation Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:00:33 -0400 From: Peter Hayward <phayward(a)virtualiron.com> To: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> Here's the second. Please include contacting me at phayward(a)virtualiron.com <mailto:phayward@virtualiron.com> 508-523-2205 Senior Software Engineer - Linux Kernel Development *Job Description* We are seeking a senior-level software engineer to join our Linux kernel development team. This is a great opportunity to have an exciting career in a fast paced Linux kernel development environment. We are a focused, energetic startup company, founded by industry veterans where working hard, having fun and building a great company are important. *Responsibilities* ? Design and develop software within our Linux kernel development team. ? Apply engineering, programming, and scientific principles to highly complex technical tasks and problems. *Requirements* ? BSCS or BSEE, or equivalent ? Minimum of 3 years of OS kernel development experience. ? Specific development experience in memory management, or drivers/IO strong desired. ? Ability to work in a team-oriented environment. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] *Sent:* Thu 5/5/2005 5:50 PM *To:* Peter Hayward *Subject:* Re: PLIP presentation Peter Hayward wrote: > I was recently playing around looking for Linux Kernel engineers and > found your .org and was curious if I could post our jobs on your site > for Virtual Iron. > Hi Peter, If you send the item to me, I'll post it for you as appropriate. Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCf1PKHl0iXDssISsRAv7ZAJ0SZOZu8CzRPjH1yVGJk9IZMG9VigCfZJWd 0mGsZKoVR0yeGUoNiXYRBbs= =Ou+f -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

May 9, 2005

Re: [Wlug] AMD64 and 32-bit apps

by Mike Frysinger

On Tuesday 03 May 2005 06:20 pm, Andy Stewart wrote: > I'm running SuSE 9.2 on my dual Opteron and haven't had too many sw > problems. I would encourage anybody doing this to run a 32-bit version > of their browser so that the 32-bit plugins will work (there are few > 64-bit plugins available). yeah, flash works great in the 32bit browsers using macromedia plugin > I'm running xine and it plays files fine. Is there a particular format > that works in 32-bit mode but not 64-bit mode? quicktime format comes to mind ... but ive never tried running a 32bit mplayer/xine, just native versions ... > Suse separates libraries into /lib, /lib64, /usr/lib, /usr/lib64. Very > few if any (in my experience - ymmv) source tarballs understand > /usr/local/lib{64}. Gentoo has /lib<ABI> while /lib is the 'native' path ... so on a multilib amd64 setup, /lib and /lib64 are the same dir while /lib32 is a different one -mike

May 3, 2005

Re: [Wlug] AMD64 and 32-bit apps

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 03 May 2005 04:30 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>On Tuesday 03 May 2005 03:02 pm, James Baldassari wrote: >>>For example, Flash doesn't seem to work on AMD64 yet, and >>>I don't think you can play WMV files, even with the 32-bit libraries. >>sure it does, install the ... > > err i misread you ... > > yeah, xine & mplayer seem to be a bit flaky in amd64 atm compared to x86 in > terms of supporting a wide variety of formats > > on x86, i rarely found a media file that neither xine or mplayer would play > properly, but on amd64 it's harder to get those random formats to play nicely > (or at all) :( > -mike I'm running SuSE 9.2 on my dual Opteron and haven't had too many sw problems. I would encourage anybody doing this to run a 32-bit version of their browser so that the 32-bit plugins will work (there are few 64-bit plugins available). I'm running xine and it plays files fine. Is there a particular format that works in 32-bit mode but not 64-bit mode? Suse separates libraries into /lib, /lib64, /usr/lib, /usr/lib64. Very few if any (in my experience - ymmv) source tarballs understand /usr/local/lib{64}. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCd/k3Hl0iXDssISsRApcoAJ4+YxvlGnNTvOgskVXps48GZkElxQCfaDqF V/N+UusSVBcoGpd/S0tNYYA= =AH49 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

May 3, 2005

Re: [Wlug] AMD64 and 32-bit apps

by Mike Frysinger

On Tuesday 03 May 2005 04:30 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 03 May 2005 03:02 pm, James Baldassari wrote: > > For example, Flash doesn't seem to work on AMD64 yet, and > > I don't think you can play WMV files, even with the 32-bit libraries. > > sure it does, install the ... err i misread you ... yeah, xine & mplayer seem to be a bit flaky in amd64 atm compared to x86 in terms of supporting a wide variety of formats on x86, i rarely found a media file that neither xine or mplayer would play properly, but on amd64 it's harder to get those random formats to play nicely (or at all) :( -mike

May 3, 2005

Re: [Wlug] AMD64 and 32-bit apps

by Mike Frysinger

On Tuesday 03 May 2005 03:02 pm, James Baldassari wrote: > I'm currently running Gentoo for AMD64 on a dual Opteron system. > Everything works fine, and I'm really happy with it. I have been able to > run binaries compiled on 32-bit x86 systems without any problems so far. > It sounds like you need to do some cross-compiling for 32-bit x86. I've > never done that, so I can't say how well that would work, but if you have > the "cross" and "multilib" USE flags, you should have all of the > components you need to do that. there is no 'cross' USE flag, that's not how Gentoo does cross-compiling ... cross-compiling is done simply by manipulating CHOST (and assuming you installed a cross-compiler ... use the 'crossdev' frontend i made to make your life easier) ... ymmv depending on your target of course :) > For example, Flash doesn't seem to work on AMD64 yet, and > I don't think you can play WMV files, even with the 32-bit libraries. sure it does, install the 32bit firefox-bin and the 32bit netscape-flash and run that version to use flash ... i create two mozilla profiles, one for my normal usage and one for when i want to launch a 32bit browser to view a flash page $ firefox # 64bit native version $ firefox-bin -P 32bit-profile # a 32bit profile i made -mike

May 3, 2005

Re: [Wlug] AMD64 and 32-bit apps

by James Baldassari

I'm currently running Gentoo for AMD64 on a dual Opteron system. Everything works fine, and I'm really happy with it. I have been able to run binaries compiled on 32-bit x86 systems without any problems so far. It sounds like you need to do some cross-compiling for 32-bit x86. I've never done that, so I can't say how well that would work, but if you have the "cross" and "multilib" USE flags, you should have all of the components you need to do that. I have also run 32-bit Slackware on the Opteron box, and that worked fine. So if you don't want to deal with the AMD64 and cross-compiling issues, you could just install a 32-bit Linux distro on it with no performance hit. Keep in mind that there aren't anywhere near as many Gentoo packages in Portage that are marked stable for AMD64 as there are for x86, so that may be a problem for you if you can't live without some specific package. There are other possible issues if you intend to use your AMD64 box as a desktop system. For example, Flash doesn't seem to work on AMD64 yet, and I don't think you can play WMV files, even with the 32-bit libraries. If you want to know more about my specific experiences with AMD64 on Linux, feel free to contact me or drop by the Sin Lab. -James > Recently I've begun considering migrating over to the amd64 platform (my > motherboard just died on my athlon xp system, much to my chagrin) and > figure this is a good place to ask for users experiences. I'm not worried > about my video card drivers, since NVIDIA has great amd64 support, at > least, so I'm told. My main concern is that I need to install some 32-bit > emulation libraries and kernel modules, so I've read, to compile 32-bit > apps, and that some compiled 32-bit apps will only work under a 32-bit > environment, requiring me to setup a seperate environment to chroot into. > I'm running gentoo and I'm up to the task, just wondering if anyone has > any experience in this specifically and anything I should be concerned > about or not to worry too much about. Thanks. > > > -- > Carlton C. Stedman II, sageman(a)wpi.edu > "To iterate is human, to recurse, divine." > -- L. Peter Deutch > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 3, 2005

Re: [Wlug] AMD64 and 32-bit apps

by Mike Frysinger

On Tuesday 03 May 2005 01:12 pm, Carlton C. Stedman II wrote: > I'm not worried > about my video card drivers, since NVIDIA has great amd64 support, at > least, so I'm told. ive always used `emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx` to take care of my nvidia card on my x86 and amd64 machines ... then just put 'nvidia' into /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 > My main concern is that I need to install some 32-bit > emulation libraries and kernel modules, so I've read, to compile 32-bit > apps, and that some compiled 32-bit apps will only work under a 32-bit > environment, requiring me to setup a seperate environment to chroot into. > I'm running gentoo i'm not really up-to-speed with how fedora/redhat/suse/debian/etc... are handling the multilib issue, but i can speak for Gentoo ... since it sounds like you're doing a new install, grab a 2005.0 amd64 install and the rest should be pretty seamless ... with the 2005.0 release, amd64 supports multilib by default (you can turn it off if you wish to have a pure 64bit env) the default glibc/gcc will install 32bit and 64bit compilers / libraries ... just make sure you turn on 32bit emulation support in your kernel, and then when you go to run a 32bit app, most will 'just work' ... of course it depends on *what* you're trying to do as to how easy it'll be if you wish to compile your own 32bit code, just add '-m32' to the build process: gcc -m32 -c test.c -o test32bit -mike

May 3, 2005

AMD64 and 32-bit apps

by Carlton C. Stedman II

Recently I've begun considering migrating over to the amd64 platform (my motherboard just died on my athlon xp system, much to my chagrin) and figure this is a good place to ask for users experiences. I'm not worried about my video card drivers, since NVIDIA has great amd64 support, at least, so I'm told. My main concern is that I need to install some 32-bit emulation libraries and kernel modules, so I've read, to compile 32-bit apps, and that some compiled 32-bit apps will only work under a 32-bit environment, requiring me to setup a seperate environment to chroot into. I'm running gentoo and I'm up to the task, just wondering if anyone has any experience in this specifically and anything I should be concerned about or not to worry too much about. Thanks. -- Carlton C. Stedman II, sageman(a)wpi.edu "To iterate is human, to recurse, divine." -- L. Peter Deutch

May 3, 2005

RE: [Wlug] SOHO LAN & Multiuser Desktops

by Skip Gaede

I've used the Linux Terminal Server distro before. (http://www.ltsp.org/) It's a bit of work to setup, but keeping the clients working is a piece of cake. --Skip -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Bob George Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:21 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] SOHO LAN & Multiuser Desktops I'm successfully using NIS+NFS for a small SOHO LAN serving 4 desktops, a server and printer, plus associated networking. I'm wondering, though, if there's an easier approach to configuring a "Windows replacement" multi-user setup. I do have printing, file sharing and "roaming profiles" working fine, but it's a bit cumbersome so far. Is anyone working with an approach that might be simpler... particularly one well integrated into an existing desktop distribution? - Bob _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 2, 2005

SOHO LAN & Multiuser Desktops

by Bob George

I'm successfully using NIS+NFS for a small SOHO LAN serving 4 desktops, a server and printer, plus associated networking. I'm wondering, though, if there's an easier approach to configuring a "Windows replacement" multi-user setup. I do have printing, file sharing and "roaming profiles" working fine, but it's a bit cumbersome so far. Is anyone working with an approach that might be simpler... particularly one well integrated into an existing desktop distribution? - Bob

May 2, 2005

gnome-terminal/mutt question & solution

by Bill Mills-Curran

Ok, this is going to read more like a detective novel... :-) I'm using mutt in a gnome-terminal on fedora core 3, and I'm up to date (within a week) with updates. I find that, with the defaults, the terminal does not refresh when it needs to. A ctrl-L repaints the window just fine. I did (just now!) find a fix... Right clicking on the terminal -> Input methods and select "X input method"... Everything works fine, except this setting is not persistent. The setting affects all gnome terminals and new ones opened. However, if I first close all terminals and start a new one, the setting is lost. So, how to make the fix stick? I have no idea, but I did find this info on the subject: http://www.webservertalk.com/archive204-2004-9-379265.html This gives a link to a new terminfo file which you can use to fix the problem, and a nice way to install it without editing the distro-supplied file. Thus far it works fine. Bill

May 1, 2005

Re: [Wlug] fedora 1

by Lee Keyser-Allen

I just wanted to apologize for spamming the list (by spamming the list) with my attempt at humor ... I was just thinking about e-mail viruses, and I felt nostalgic about a time where e-mail viruses were a joke that could never happen because, quite simply (with exception of those people who used emacs) our mail reader was just a mail reader ... a method to display text on a text console. Some days I miss that. Other days, I just revel in gmail and get over it. So yeah, sorry 'bout that. I hope that at least three of you saw the humor ... 'cause then my ramblings weren't a complete waste of CPU cycles. Cheers, Lee On 4/28/05, Lee Keyser-Allen <frozbiz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Are you talking about on the Windows side, or the Linux side?? > > The one virus that you should be concerned with on the Linux side is a > particularly insideous virus called the "Good Times" virus. This has > been around since the early 90s and can target any e-mail system. It > continues its resurgence despite repeated efforts to put it down. > > You can find out more about it and how to protect against it at: > http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/notes/Notes09.shtml or google Goodtimes > virus. > > Consider this my public service for the year. > > Yours in virus protection, > > Lee > > On 4/27/05, Jerome Walczak <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > > Fedora 1 - Realtek card (swapped out the MN-130) - dualboot > > with Win ME - and working like a charm:) It's so much faster cleaner and > > better than the old Windows that I wish I could get rid of Win entirely but > > I know if I do somebody'll complain so it stays. Now - what're good security > > measures for a public internet terminal (which is basically what it is)? I > > already have the firewall set at a high level, but what should I do beyond > > that? Do I need to setup some form of antivirus protection? > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > -- > Lee Keyser-Allen > (lkeyser(a)alum.wpi.edu) > -- Lee Keyser-Allen (lkeyser(a)alum.wpi.edu)

April 28, 2005

Re: [Wlug] fedora 1

by Lee Keyser-Allen

Are you talking about on the Windows side, or the Linux side?? The one virus that you should be concerned with on the Linux side is a particularly insideous virus called the "Good Times" virus. This has been around since the early 90s and can target any e-mail system. It continues its resurgence despite repeated efforts to put it down. You can find out more about it and how to protect against it at: http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/notes/Notes09.shtml or google Goodtimes virus. Consider this my public service for the year. Yours in virus protection, Lee On 4/27/05, Jerome Walczak <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > Fedora 1 - Realtek card (swapped out the MN-130) - dualboot > with Win ME - and working like a charm:) It's so much faster cleaner and > better than the old Windows that I wish I could get rid of Win entirely but > I know if I do somebody'll complain so it stays. Now - what're good security > measures for a public internet terminal (which is basically what it is)? I > already have the firewall set at a high level, but what should I do beyond > that? Do I need to setup some form of antivirus protection? > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- Lee Keyser-Allen (lkeyser(a)alum.wpi.edu)

April 28, 2005

fedora 1

by Jerome Walczak

Fedora 1 - Realtek card (swapped out the MN-130) - dualboot with Win ME - and working like a charm:) It's so much faster cleaner and better than the old Windows that I wish I could get rid of Win entirely but I know if I do somebody'll complain so it stays. Now - what're good security measures for a public internet terminal (which is basically what it is)? I already have the firewall set at a high level, but what should I do beyond that? Do I need to setup some form of antivirus protection? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005

April 28, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Caching DNS

by Frank Sweetser

On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 03:47:47PM -0400, Chuck Noyes wrote: > Hi All, > > I just installed a caching DNS server at work on a SuSE 9.2 server. It > works great. > My question is how can I view the contents of the cache? rndc dumpdb should trigger a dump of the database to the named_dump.db file. Check out the BIND manual at www.isc.org -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

April 26, 2005

Caching DNS

by Chuck Noyes

Hi All, I just installed a caching DNS server at work on a SuSE 9.2 server. It works great. My question is how can I view the contents of the cache? I've "googled" around and looked at the HOWTO docs, but no joy. Thanks, -Chuck

April 26, 2005

[OT] Python Jobs

by Jeff Kinz

As some of you may already know I was at Dragon Systems in the mid 90's porting their speech recognition product to the Alpha platform (under NT :( ). The (then) director of software development just posted this to the Exdragons list. > On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 09:50:34AM -0400, Sean True wrote: > > Roger Matus and I wanted to let the exDragon community know that we > > are off and running on our new company, InBoxer, Inc. InBoxer is the > > successor to Audiotrieve, LLC and was created to allow us to focus on > > technologies and products for electronic message filtering. > > Although we will continue to sell our current product, the InBoxer > > spam filter, the investors want us to to build products to help keep > > people from sending inappropriate email messages (think of it as an > > harassment and liability checker that runs before the message leaves > > your machine). > > We are starting to look for technical people: research engineering > > skills, Windows application development, server development, or > > Python experience are particularly interesting. > Hi Sean, > Would you like this passed on to the main Linux groups for MA and NH? > And is any of your development done on Linux or UNIX? In my heart, I would like to do it all on Linux. All shipped code will be on Windows for the foreseeable future. Since it will all be in Python, most of it will be pretty crossplatform. Please pass this along with that caveat. -- Sean Sean True CTO InBoxer, Inc. send replies to: "Sean True" <seant(a)webreply.com> Personal notes: Sean lead software at Dragon during the period of time that their new continuous speech recognition (CSR) product was developed. That product, "Dragon Naturally speaking" is still considered the best "CSR" on the market today. (it is now owned by "ScanSoft") Managing large groups of software developers is never an easy task. At Dragon Sean was an excellent leader who took care of his people. He understands software development from both the developers and business needs perspectives. Full Disclosure: I have no relationship with Sean's company, financial or otherwise. I'm posting this because I believe it will be a good place to work. (even if it is (currently) windows oriented :). -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA.

April 25, 2005

RE: [Wlug] New problem! FC3 install

by Jerome Walczak

I edited the boot prompt to go into runlevel 3 then edited the xorg.conf file with NoAccel after the information for the video card. Turns out it was the card that was causing the problems - the information for the monitor was fine. The card's an Intel 810 and there are refresh rate issues between it & Fedora apparently. So the systems up and running and looking very pretty BUT I'm still having that issue with the network card & editing the tulip driver doesn't seem to be working - is there a way to get another driver in there? One that works? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005

April 25, 2005

Re: [Wlug] New problem! FC3 install

by Mike Leo

i say you boot normally and hit ctl-alt-f2 to get to the "other" console. Then edit xorg.conf by hand, or do the system-config-xfree86 as suggested. Editing grub is a good idea too, but ctl-alt-f2 is good to know too. --- "Chuck R. Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 05:24:36PM -0400, Jared > Greenwald wrote: > > What kind of monitor do you have? The vertical > sync, horizontal > > refresh rates and max resolution specs given by > the manufacturer will > > be of great use to you. Also, the color depth > spec of your video card > > will help... > > > > You could also move aside the default xorg.conf > file and run X > > -config... To run the guided setup... > > Or you can run the Fedora-specific setup program: > > system-config-display --reconfig > > and select a lower resolution, like 640x480 which > should be safe to > start out with. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

April 24, 2005

Re: [Wlug] New problem! FC3 install

by Chuck R. Anderson

On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 05:24:36PM -0400, Jared Greenwald wrote: > What kind of monitor do you have? The vertical sync, horizontal > refresh rates and max resolution specs given by the manufacturer will > be of great use to you. Also, the color depth spec of your video card > will help... > > You could also move aside the default xorg.conf file and run X > -config... To run the guided setup... Or you can run the Fedora-specific setup program: system-config-display --reconfig and select a lower resolution, like 640x480 which should be safe to start out with.

April 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] New problem! FC3 install

by Jared Greenwald

What kind of monitor do you have? The vertical sync, horizontal refresh rates and max resolution specs given by the manufacturer will be of great use to you. Also, the color depth spec of your video card will help... You could also move aside the default xorg.conf file and run X -config... To run the guided setup... -Jared On 4/23/05, Chuck R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 04:09:36PM -0400, Jerome Walczak wrote: > > vertical colored lines. I read that this can be fixed by editing the > > xorg.conf (or something like that) file & setting everything to defaults > > & that the issue is basically with the monitor being set at too high a > > resolution but how do I do that? > > First you have to disable the graphical bootup, and boot into runlevel > 3 which disables the gdm graphical login screen: > > At the bootup menu, hit any key to stop the auto-boot. Then use the > arrow keys to move to a Fedora Core (2.6.xx-xx) line, and hit 'e'. > Then move to the kernel /vmlinuz... line and hit 'e' again. Now move > to the end of that line and delete 'rhgb quiet' and replace it with a > space and a three: ' 3'. Then hit enter to save the line, and finally > type 'b' to boot the kernel. > > You should then be able to login as root at the text console and edit > /etc/X11/xorg.conf using e.g. nano: > > nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf > > To start up the gdm graphical login screen afterwards, switch to > runlevel 5 by typing: > > telinit 5 > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] New problem! FC3 install

by Chuck R. Anderson

On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 04:09:36PM -0400, Jerome Walczak wrote: > vertical colored lines. I read that this can be fixed by editing the > xorg.conf (or something like that) file & setting everything to defaults > & that the issue is basically with the monitor being set at too high a > resolution but how do I do that? First you have to disable the graphical bootup, and boot into runlevel 3 which disables the gdm graphical login screen: At the bootup menu, hit any key to stop the auto-boot. Then use the arrow keys to move to a Fedora Core (2.6.xx-xx) line, and hit 'e'. Then move to the kernel /vmlinuz... line and hit 'e' again. Now move to the end of that line and delete 'rhgb quiet' and replace it with a space and a three: ' 3'. Then hit enter to save the line, and finally type 'b' to boot the kernel. You should then be able to login as root at the text console and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf using e.g. nano: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf To start up the gdm graphical login screen afterwards, switch to runlevel 5 by typing: telinit 5

April 23, 2005

New problem! FC3 install

by Jerome Walczak

Jared & everyone - thanks for all your help & advice, I'm going to try Ubuntu I think if I can't get FC 3 to work out. The problem I'm having now is with the FC 3 install. I burned the four cd's and upgraded my old box & everything went fine, a bit slow but fine (install took about an hour). Now I boot up for the first time and as soon as it hits kudzu and checks for newly installed equipment the monitor goes to vertical colored lines. I read that this can be fixed by editing the xorg.conf (or something like that) file & setting everything to defaults & that the issue is basically with the monitor being set at too high a resolution but how do I do that? Anger Is A Gift. -----Original Message----- From: Jared Greenwald [mailto:greenwaldjared@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 2:43 AM To: Jerome Walczak Subject: Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130? That depends on how you characterize "easier to work with"... If you mean - easier to install - you might want to try ubuntu linux (http://ubuntulinux.org) If you mean - easier package management - you might want Gentoo. I have to say that I'm rather biased towards Gentoo - purely because I used it in most of my systems that don't have to be Redhat/Fedora/Suse. (I work for a major software house and our main product is supported on the various Redhat and Suse streams so I have to have some systems running those OSes.) All of my home network servers, and both my home and office desktops are both Gentoo (I'm also currently building a mythtv box - http://mythtv.org - and that's Gentoo also). The biggest thing with Gentoo is that you compile everything - so when a new version of KDE comes out - you compile the whole thing - but you don't actually sit there and run make. The thing that I like the most is that the package management is really good. Everything is designed to pull the source kits (and any patches) directly from the project webpage for a given project. You just tell the install tools that you want to install or upgrade a package and it figures out all of the appropriate dependencies for your system (depending on what you already have installed and some configuration params) then it starts downloading source and building things automagically. Also, since you are building the system up from scratch (there is no gui installer or anything - all command-line) you get to decide exactly what is on your system and exactly how it gets setup. There's about 100 core packages (including kernel source, system logger, cron, etc...) but that doesn't include X or any of those things - which is nice for server installations. I've found that the Fedora installer hides too much for installing servers - for desktops its not really all that clear either. Ubuntu hides everything, but you go into it knowing that and it actually figures out what type of installation its doing (laptop/desktop). I had that on my laptop for a while and it ran really well - there's not much package selection there - its more a pre-canned set of binaries depending on your system type (it even knew to download the gnome battery applet for monitoring my laptop battery). So, now that I've sufficiently confused you... did that help at all? Keep in mind that I wrote this at 2:45A - so it might be a little incoherent and rambling... Let me know whatever questions you have and I'll try to answer them... -Jarred -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005

April 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Chuck R. Anderson

On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 07:09:29PM -0400, Jerome Walczak wrote: > but no go, the network card is still MIA - I tried downloading & burning > the SRPMS images for Fedora 3 but I can't boot from them - I'm going to > download the other images listed on the site & try them - does anybody > know why I couldn't boot from the SRPMS images? SRPMS are source code. You don't need them unless you are going to develop Fedora. You need the 4 i386 .iso files, or you can get just the boot.iso and do a HTTP or FTP install off the internet.

April 23, 2005

RE: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Jerome Walczak

Not just yet. I'm in the process of downloading & burning some cd's which (hopefully) will allow me to upgrade the current installation - I'm going to try to go from FC 1 to FC 3 - the cd's I burnt before didn't boot & didn't work ... If the new version doesn't work or I can't get it to install right I'll swap out the MN card for another one I have spare ... Can anyone give me a quick explanation of why the SRPMS cd's didn't boot? I haven't tried any other distros yet with this system but I'm thinking it may be a good idea. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Jared Greenwald Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:36 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130? I assume that means that you gave up on Fedora? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005

April 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Jared Greenwald

I assume that means that you gave up on Fedora? On 4/22/05, Jerome Walczak <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > Uses the prism 2 chipset, or maybe just prism, but either way its a > standard (to myknowledge) chipset found on linksys cards. So under normal > circumstances you should be able to use the tulip module to get this to > work. But of course microsoft had to go in and put in their 2 cents and > screw it up for everyone. Apparently the I/O address built onto the card was > changed so you have to rewrite the tulip module manually in order to get it > to work. To begin insert the following line at line 201 (its a function I > beleive) of the tulip module source code (tulip_core.c) > " {0x1414, 0x0002, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, COMET}, " > save and do the following commands. > cd /usr/src/linux**** #(**** = kernel number) > make dep > make modules > make modules_install > do a restart and everything should be ok > right now I'm using mine in slackware so I know it works. > > --- I got this from linuxquestions.org ... I tried doing this but no > go, the network card is still MIA - I tried downloading & burning the SRPMS > images for Fedora 3 but I can't boot from them - I'm going to download the > other images listed on the site & try them - does anybody know why I > couldn't boot from the SRPMS images? > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

April 23, 2005

RE: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Jerome Walczak

Uses the prism 2 chipset, or maybe just prism, but either way its a standard (to myknowledge) chipset found on linksys cards. So under normal circumstances you should be able to use the tulip module to get this to work. But of course microsoft had to go in and put in their 2 cents and screw it up for everyone. Apparently the I/O address built onto the card was changed so you have to rewrite the tulip module manually in order to get it to work. To begin insert the following line at line 201 (its a function I beleive) of the tulip module source code (tulip_core.c) " {0x1414, 0x0002, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, COMET}, " save and do the following commands. cd /usr/src/linux**** #(**** = kernel number) make dep make modules make modules_install do a restart and everything should be ok right now I'm using mine in slackware so I know it works. --- I got this from linuxquestions.org ... I tried doing this but no go, the network card is still MIA - I tried downloading & burning the SRPMS images for Fedora 3 but I can't boot from them - I'm going to download the other images listed on the site & try them - does anybody know why I couldn't boot from the SRPMS images? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005

April 22, 2005

Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Jared Greenwald

That was the point I was trying to make... On 4/22/05, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> wrote: > ==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?; "Jerome Walczak" <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> adds: > > vze4jtbs> The kernel I have installed is 2.4 --- I'm currently > vze4jtbs> downloading version 3 off the site & expect everything to be > vze4jtbs> ready to burn in about, oh 3 hours or so. We'll see if it > vze4jtbs> works. Or ... Is there any way to install a new kernel in Fedora > vze4jtbs> 1? Forgive me if I'm not saying that right but that's what I > vze4jtbs> think is possible? > > You would need to update/install other packages to get a 2.6 kernel to boot > on a 2.4 based distribution. Arjan used to keep around all of the > necessary packages on his people page, but he's since removed that. I > don't believe it to be worth the headache. > > -Jeff

April 22, 2005

Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Jared Greenwald

It would really have to depend on the chipset that is on the card. Can you run lspci? On 4/22/05, Eric Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I believe you can grab a newer kernel although it would prob be an FC3 > (Fedora Core 3) kernel. I personally haven't used Fedora much so I'm not > sure. Have you tried googling that name? I've never even heard of that > nic. From the quick google search I did it sounds like it's a Microsoft > card. Did see a few topics about linux drivers, but all dead ends at a > short glance. > > > On 4/22/05, Jerome Walczak <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > The kernel I have installed is 2.4 --- I'm currently downloading > > version 3 off the site & expect everything to be ready to burn in about, > > oh 3 hours or so. We'll see if it works. Or ... Is there any way to > > install a new kernel in Fedora 1? Forgive me if I'm not saying that > > right but that's what I think is possible? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > > Behalf Of Jared Greenwald > > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:23 PM > > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130? > > > > I would imagine that a newer release of Linux might have it. I don't > > even remember if Fedora 1 was in the 2.6 kernel stream... > > > > -Jared > > > > On 4/21/05, Jerome Walczak <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > OK here we go - I'm a Linux newbie &'ve used Mandrake in the > > > past occasionally but that's about it. I've installed Fedora 1 on an > > > old computer at work but it has an MN-130 network card & the system > > > isn't recognizing that it's there. According to a couple articles I've > > > > > checked I need to edit the Tulip driver (tulip_core.c) & add a line of > > > > > code at line 201. I did this and then checked the dependencies & typed > > > > > modules_install & restarted the system & STILL the network card didn't > > > > > show up. What am I doing wrong? Does anyone have any advice to get me > > > out of this frustration? I'm very close to swapping out the card for > > > another one that's more likely to work but I'd like to avoid that if > > > possible ... Can anybody help? > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

April 22, 2005

RE: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?; "Jerome Walczak" <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> adds: vze4jtbs> The kernel I have installed is 2.4 --- I'm currently vze4jtbs> downloading version 3 off the site & expect everything to be vze4jtbs> ready to burn in about, oh 3 hours or so. We'll see if it vze4jtbs> works. Or ... Is there any way to install a new kernel in Fedora vze4jtbs> 1? Forgive me if I'm not saying that right but that's what I vze4jtbs> think is possible? You would need to update/install other packages to get a 2.6 kernel to boot on a 2.4 based distribution. Arjan used to keep around all of the necessary packages on his people page, but he's since removed that. I don't believe it to be worth the headache. -Jeff

April 22, 2005

Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Eric Martin

I believe you can grab a newer kernel although it would prob be an FC3 (Fedora Core 3) kernel. I personally haven't used Fedora much so I'm not sure. Have you tried googling that name? I've never even heard of that nic. >From the quick google search I did it sounds like it's a Microsoft card. Did see a few topics about linux drivers, but all dead ends at a short glance. On 4/22/05, Jerome Walczak <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > The kernel I have installed is 2.4 --- I'm currently downloading > version 3 off the site & expect everything to be ready to burn in about, > oh 3 hours or so. We'll see if it works. Or ... Is there any way to > install a new kernel in Fedora 1? Forgive me if I'm not saying that > right but that's what I think is possible? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Jared Greenwald > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:23 PM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130? > > I would imagine that a newer release of Linux might have it. I don't > even remember if Fedora 1 was in the 2.6 kernel stream... > > -Jared > > On 4/21/05, Jerome Walczak <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > OK here we go - I'm a Linux newbie &'ve used Mandrake in the > > past occasionally but that's about it. I've installed Fedora 1 on an > > old computer at work but it has an MN-130 network card & the system > > isn't recognizing that it's there. According to a couple articles I've > > > checked I need to edit the Tulip driver (tulip_core.c) & add a line of > > > code at line 201. I did this and then checked the dependencies & typed > > > modules_install & restarted the system & STILL the network card didn't > > > show up. What am I doing wrong? Does anyone have any advice to get me > > out of this frustration? I'm very close to swapping out the card for > > another one that's more likely to work but I'd like to avoid that if > > possible ... Can anybody help? > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 22, 2005

RE: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Jerome Walczak

The kernel I have installed is 2.4 --- I'm currently downloading version 3 off the site & expect everything to be ready to burn in about, oh 3 hours or so. We'll see if it works. Or ... Is there any way to install a new kernel in Fedora 1? Forgive me if I'm not saying that right but that's what I think is possible? -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Jared Greenwald Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:23 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130? I would imagine that a newer release of Linux might have it. I don't even remember if Fedora 1 was in the 2.6 kernel stream... -Jared On 4/21/05, Jerome Walczak <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > OK here we go - I'm a Linux newbie &'ve used Mandrake in the > past occasionally but that's about it. I've installed Fedora 1 on an > old computer at work but it has an MN-130 network card & the system > isn't recognizing that it's there. According to a couple articles I've > checked I need to edit the Tulip driver (tulip_core.c) & add a line of > code at line 201. I did this and then checked the dependencies & typed > modules_install & restarted the system & STILL the network card didn't > show up. What am I doing wrong? Does anyone have any advice to get me > out of this frustration? I'm very close to swapping out the card for > another one that's more likely to work but I'd like to avoid that if > possible ... Can anybody help? > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005

April 22, 2005

Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Jared Greenwald

I would imagine that a newer release of Linux might have it. I don't even remember if Fedora 1 was in the 2.6 kernel stream... -Jared On 4/21/05, Jerome Walczak <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > OK here we go - I'm a Linux newbie &'ve used Mandrake in the > past occasionally but that's about it. I've installed Fedora 1 on an old > computer at work but it has an MN-130 network card & the system isn't > recognizing that it's there. According to a couple articles I've checked > I need to edit the Tulip driver (tulip_core.c) & add a line of code at > line 201. I did this and then checked the dependencies & typed > modules_install & restarted the system & STILL the network card didn't > show up. What am I doing wrong? Does anyone have any advice to get me > out of this frustration? I'm very close to swapping out the card for > another one that's more likely to work but I'd like to avoid that if > possible ... Can anybody help? > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 22, 2005

FW: MN-130?

by Jerome Walczak

OK here we go - I'm a Linux newbie &'ve used Mandrake in the past occasionally but that's about it. I've installed Fedora 1 on an old computer at work but it has an MN-130 network card & the system isn't recognizing that it's there. According to a couple articles I've checked I need to edit the Tulip driver (tulip_core.c) & add a line of code at line 201. I did this and then checked the dependencies & typed modules_install & restarted the system & STILL the network card didn't show up. What am I doing wrong? Does anyone have any advice to get me out of this frustration? I'm very close to swapping out the card for another one that's more likely to work but I'd like to avoid that if possible ... Can anybody help? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005

April 22, 2005

Job opportunity

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If interested, please reply directly to Elizabeth Holland (eholland(a)agencourt.com) - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: job opportunity Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:48:22 -0400 From: Elizabeth Holland <eholland(a)agencourt.com> Reply-To: eholland(a)agencourt.com <eholland(a)agencourt.com> Organization: Agencourt Bioscience To: andystewart(a)comcast.net <andystewart(a)comcast.net> Andy I received your name from a web search for Linux users. We currently have a job opening some of your members may be interested it. If you could pass the below job around, I would appreciate it. Thanks Agencourt Bioscience Corporation, located in Beverly, Massachusetts, is a trusted provider of genomic services and nucleic acid purification products. We are dedicated to designing solutions for overcoming all of our clients' current and future discovery challenges. Agencourt is a dynamic and growing company that is committed to providing employees with a fast paced environment and a fun place to work. As a result of our significant growth, we have an immediate need for a *Research Programmer* * * The role of Programmer will be to support an in-house R&D effort to develop a new DNA sequencing technology. We seek a productive programmer who enjoys working in an academic style collaborative environment and meets the requirements listed below. BS or higher in Math, Science, or Engineering Proficiency in Linux Experience with most of the following: C/C++, VB, PERL, Python, Java, PHP, MySQL, MatLab/Mathematica Interested candidates should send a resume and cover letter with salary requirements to hr(a)agencourt.com <mailto:hr@agencourt.com> . Job Code RSP - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCaBsWHl0iXDssISsRAouQAJ9NQdHoLtqLJ9Hh1IJEFXwfO/rTugCfQCB8 p3axC/FvG7HMpmCjHmPd33c= =zeO0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re-iterate my topic idea

by Jared Greenwald

Did anyone take notes? On 4/20/05, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mike Leo wrote: > > hi ya'll! > > > > After the utter silence from my last topic suggestion, > > you would think I wouldn't bring it up again, but... > > > > I have many very basic questions I would like to work > > through with you experts. > > > > Things like: > > > > kernel compiling/patching > > kernel-source vs kernel-headers > > frame buffers > > compiling software and USE flags > > lilo vs grub > > bootsplash > > WM/DE > > driver installs (NVidia/ATI) > > > > Again, I don't mind leading the discussion, but it > > would be boring as heck if I as the speaker just stood > > up there and asked questions and took notes as the > > audience did the talking. > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > Hi Everybody, > > Since there was no "official" speaker for the meeting, those in > attendance decided that we'd use Mike's suggested topics as a basis for > a discussion. > > We covered kernel compiling, initrd, kernel modules, and grub/lilo as it > pertains to pointing to the kernel image to boot. There was a > discussion on frame buffers as well. I thought the meeting went well. > > I also gave away quite a few Ubuntu Linux CDs which were recently sent > to me. I have many more left, so if you want some for yourself and/or > your friends, let me know! > > If you came to the meeting and couldn't find us, I apologize. We moved > to a different room at the very last minute due to a scheduling > conflict. This new room worked out pretty well since there weren't that > many of us, although we do like the Access Grid room much better due to > its amenities and size. :-) > > Later, > > Andy > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFCZyTRHl0iXDssISsRAo14AJ4tLExjqSjKk6OamXOs9adyLAI2gwCfUt24 > pYjRNk+qgS+YtBglkHJBpE4= > =oE/f > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re-iterate my topic idea

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike Leo wrote: > hi ya'll! > > After the utter silence from my last topic suggestion, > you would think I wouldn't bring it up again, but... > > I have many very basic questions I would like to work > through with you experts. > > Things like: > > kernel compiling/patching > kernel-source vs kernel-headers > frame buffers > compiling software and USE flags > lilo vs grub > bootsplash > WM/DE > driver installs (NVidia/ATI) > > Again, I don't mind leading the discussion, but it > would be boring as heck if I as the speaker just stood > up there and asked questions and took notes as the > audience did the talking. > > Thanks > Mike Hi Everybody, Since there was no "official" speaker for the meeting, those in attendance decided that we'd use Mike's suggested topics as a basis for a discussion. We covered kernel compiling, initrd, kernel modules, and grub/lilo as it pertains to pointing to the kernel image to boot. There was a discussion on frame buffers as well. I thought the meeting went well. I also gave away quite a few Ubuntu Linux CDs which were recently sent to me. I have many more left, so if you want some for yourself and/or your friends, let me know! If you came to the meeting and couldn't find us, I apologize. We moved to a different room at the very last minute due to a scheduling conflict. This new room worked out pretty well since there weren't that many of us, although we do like the Access Grid room much better due to its amenities and size. :-) Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCZyTRHl0iXDssISsRAo14AJ4tLExjqSjKk6OamXOs9adyLAI2gwCfUt24 pYjRNk+qgS+YtBglkHJBpE4= =oE/f -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] ldifde for linux?

by Justin Odom

I want to keep windows and linux accounts seperate(as far as authentication) but keep the same password. I have a solution now which produces the ldf files on linux Since this will include passwords being transfered, it MUST be secure ldap. Thanks, Justin Jared Greenwald wrote: > Why not just use ldap as your login authentication on linux? It can > work similarly to nis. This sounds like active directory stuff... > > -Jared > > On 4/20/05, Justin Odom <jodom(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > >>Figured I'd throw this out there. >> >>I am working on a project that requires me to push .ldf files from a >>linux server to a window 2003 server. Basically creating the same >>accounts on the linux system onto the windows system. >> >>Does anyone know of linux program that is equivalent of the windows >>"ldifde" program? It needs to be able to create a secure connection with >>ldaps. >> >>Thanks in advance, >> >>-- >>Justin Odom >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Justin Odom ECE Systems Administrator jodom(a)wpi.edu Worcester Polytechnic Institute

April 20, 2005

Re: [Wlug] ldifde for linux?

by Jared Greenwald

Why not just use ldap as your login authentication on linux? It can work similarly to nis. This sounds like active directory stuff... -Jared On 4/20/05, Justin Odom <jodom(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Figured I'd throw this out there. > > I am working on a project that requires me to push .ldf files from a > linux server to a window 2003 server. Basically creating the same > accounts on the linux system onto the windows system. > > Does anyone know of linux program that is equivalent of the windows > "ldifde" program? It needs to be able to create a secure connection with > ldaps. > > Thanks in advance, > > -- > Justin Odom > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 20, 2005

ldifde for linux?

by Justin Odom

Figured I'd throw this out there. I am working on a project that requires me to push .ldf files from a linux server to a window 2003 server. Basically creating the same accounts on the linux system onto the windows system. Does anyone know of linux program that is equivalent of the windows "ldifde" program? It needs to be able to create a secure connection with ldaps. Thanks in advance, -- Justin Odom

April 20, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re-iterate my topic idea

by Eric Martin

We could have a round robin type thing. On 4/19/05, Jared Greenwald <greenwaldjared(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Axe away... Is this just a general lofty discussion or do you have > particular circumstances you'd like help with? > > -Jared > > On 4/19/05, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > hi ya'll! > > > > After the utter silence from my last topic suggestion, > > you would think I wouldn't bring it up again, but... > > > > I have many very basic questions I would like to work > > through with you experts. > > > > Things like: > > > > kernel compiling/patching > > kernel-source vs kernel-headers > > frame buffers > > compiling software and USE flags > > lilo vs grub > > bootsplash > > WM/DE > > driver installs (NVidia/ATI) > > > > Again, I don't mind leading the discussion, but it > > would be boring as heck if I as the speaker just stood > > up there and asked questions and took notes as the > > audience did the talking. > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 19, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re-iterate my topic idea

by Jared Greenwald

Axe away... Is this just a general lofty discussion or do you have particular circumstances you'd like help with? -Jared On 4/19/05, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > hi ya'll! > > After the utter silence from my last topic suggestion, > you would think I wouldn't bring it up again, but... > > I have many very basic questions I would like to work > through with you experts. > > Things like: > > kernel compiling/patching > kernel-source vs kernel-headers > frame buffers > compiling software and USE flags > lilo vs grub > bootsplash > WM/DE > driver installs (NVidia/ATI) > > Again, I don't mind leading the discussion, but it > would be boring as heck if I as the speaker just stood > up there and asked questions and took notes as the > audience did the talking. > > Thanks > Mike > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 19, 2005

Re-iterate my topic idea

by Mike Leo

hi ya'll! After the utter silence from my last topic suggestion, you would think I wouldn't bring it up again, but... I have many very basic questions I would like to work through with you experts. Things like: kernel compiling/patching kernel-source vs kernel-headers frame buffers compiling software and USE flags lilo vs grub bootsplash WM/DE driver installs (NVidia/ATI) Again, I don't mind leading the discussion, but it would be boring as heck if I as the speaker just stood up there and asked questions and took notes as the audience did the talking. Thanks Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

April 19, 2005

HOWTO DVD slides from March 2005 presentation

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, I have just posted the slides from last month's presentation about how to make DVDs with video content. I apologize for being a slowpoke about this. To find information about previous presentations, go to the WLUG home page, and scroll down to "Slides from Previous meetings" and click appropriately. Enjoy! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCYwvQHl0iXDssISsRAlU9AJ9MCUnlMHLcb5VAJhSoz3nQ0HjQWQCfR07o XK6Mg/AZ1WNyPBpIwFOt0tk= =pO17 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 18, 2005

REMINDER: Upcoming meeting

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody, There is a WLUG meeting coming up on Wednesday, April 20th, at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. This meeting is open to anybody with an interest in Linux. I'm still looking for a speaker for this meeting. If you are interested in volunteering, please contact me ASAP. If we don't have a speaker, we'll have to find a way to amuse ourselves. :-) Volunteer speakers get free food after the meeting. I recently received a large package from the Netherlands. It contains 100 Ubuntu Linux CD sets (version 4.10 from November 2004) to give away. Bring home 5 - 10 of them for your friends - I'm not kidding! Check out http://www.ubuntulinux.org for more information. Each set contains 2 CDs - one is a live eval CD similar to Knoppix, while the other one is used to install Ubuntu on your system. Feel free to stop in just to get some CDs (but I hope you'll stay for the meeting!). Ubuntu is Debian based with Gnome as the default desktop. I'll also bring two books for the free raffle: Sendmail Milters by Bryan Costales and Marcia Flynt Published by Addison Wesley PHPH-Nuke Garage by Don Jones Published by Prentice Hall Well, that's about it. I'm hoping we get a speaker, and when we do, I'll send out an email to the group. See ya on Wednesday! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCYUy4Hl0iXDssISsRAgvnAJ0Qs2w7QsipfDVY02bOnx9fqcevGgCdG9zr 9sPpzie+0+uWCstQLf9Ue/g= =eEo0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 16, 2005

Re: A OpenSSH question. --> Solution

by joel d

Hi, First a hearty thank you to all that replied to my conundrum. Here is how I got past the problem of my (FreeBSD 5.3 Release) OpenSSH's "sshd" key errors, not loading at startup: 1) I had an incorrect line in /etc/rc.conf. One problem for me was an incorrect path to the program. The correct lines that mattered were: sshd_program=/usr/sbin/sshd sshd_enable="YES" 2) I also did not have correct keys generated for the sshd aplication. Based upon your helpful e-mails and the man pages I found the following worked just fine to create the SSHV2 dsa host key: ssh-keygen -t dsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key 3) Also, based upon recommendations I turned off DNS lookup by my sshd server in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file. UseDNS no All is well here and my adventure helps someone else some day. Correcting these problems got my Putty and WinSCP connections down to around 2-3 seconds (from around 80-90 seconds). Thanks again for the excellent advice from WLUG, Joel Desrochers

April 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] A OpenSSH question.

by John Stoffel

Joel, The sshd conf looks fine to my eye, but I'd try and bump up the loglevel in there and restart the daemon completely. Then look in the log file on startup and see what it says. It might give more details. Unfortunately, I'm leaving for the weekend soon, so I won't be able to help much for a while... Good luck! John

April 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] A OpenSSH question.

by Chuck R. Anderson

On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 04:50:20PM -0400, joel d wrote: > I use both putty and WinSCP as needed. An oversight on my part. > > I create the key using "ssh-keygen -t rsa1" and answer the questions > for location and key. That creates a SSH v1 key. Your server config below is only allowing Protocol v2 (a good idea) with DSA keys. Try creating a SSH v2 DSA key: ssh-keygen -t dsa > What follows is my sshd_config file. > Thanks again for the help. > > ----------- > # $OpenBSD: sshd_config,v 1.68 2003/12/29 16:39:50 millert Exp $ > # $FreeBSD: src/crypto/openssh/sshd_config,v 1.40 2004/04/20 09:37:29 des Exp $ > > # This is the sshd server system-wide configuration file. See > # sshd_config(5) for more information. > > # This sshd was compiled with PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin > > # The strategy used for options in the default sshd_config shipped with > # OpenSSH is to specify options with their default value where > # possible, but leave them commented. Uncommented options change a > # default value. > > # Note that some of FreeBSD's defaults differ from OpenBSD's, and > # FreeBSD has a few additional options. > > #VersionAddendum FreeBSD-20040419 > > Port 22 > Protocol 2 > ### Listen to all incoming addresses > ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 > #ListenAddress > > ### HostKey for protocol version 1 > # HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key > ### HostKeys for protocol version 2 > HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key

April 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] A OpenSSH question.

by joel d

I use both putty and WinSCP as needed. An oversight on my part. I create the key using "ssh-keygen -t rsa1" and answer the questions for location and key. What follows is my sshd_config file. Thanks again for the help. ----------- # $OpenBSD: sshd_config,v 1.68 2003/12/29 16:39:50 millert Exp $ # $FreeBSD: src/crypto/openssh/sshd_config,v 1.40 2004/04/20 09:37:29 des Exp $ # This is the sshd server system-wide configuration file. See # sshd_config(5) for more information. # This sshd was compiled with PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin # The strategy used for options in the default sshd_config shipped with # OpenSSH is to specify options with their default value where # possible, but leave them commented. Uncommented options change a # default value. # Note that some of FreeBSD's defaults differ from OpenBSD's, and # FreeBSD has a few additional options. #VersionAddendum FreeBSD-20040419 Port 22 Protocol 2 ### Listen to all incoming addresses ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 #ListenAddress ### HostKey for protocol version 1 # HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key ### HostKeys for protocol version 2 HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key # Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key KeyRegenerationInterval 1h ServerKeyBits 768 # Logging #obsoletes QuietMode and FascistLogging SyslogFacility AUTH LogLevel INFO # Authentication: LoginGraceTime 3m #PermitRootLogin yes PermitRootLogin no StrictModes yes RSAAuthentication yes PubkeyAuthentication yes AuthorizedKeysFile .ssh/authorized_keys # For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts RhostsRSAAuthentication no # similar for protocol version 2 HostbasedAuthentication no # Change to yes if you don't trust ~/.ssh/known_hosts for # RhostsRSAAuthentication and HostbasedAuthentication IgnoreUserKnownHosts no # Don't read the user's ~/.rhosts and ~/.shosts files IgnoreRhosts yes # Change to yes to enable built-in password authentication. PasswordAuthentication no PermitEmptyPasswords no # Change to no to disable PAM authentication ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes # Kerberos options #KerberosAuthentication no #KerberosOrLocalPasswd yes #KerberosTicketCleanup yes #KerberosGetAFSToken no # GSSAPI options #GSSAPIAuthentication no #GSSAPICleanupCredentials yes # Set this to 'no' to disable PAM authentication (via challenge-response) # and session processing. UsePAM yes #AllowTcpForwarding yes GatewayPorts no X11Forwarding no X11DisplayOffset 10 X11UseLocalhost yes PrintMotd yes PrintLastLog yes TCPKeepAlive yes UseLogin no UsePrivilegeSeparation yes PermitUserEnvironment no Compression yes ClientAliveInterval 0 ClientAliveCountMax 3 ## ## Added line to speed up connecitons ( Was UseDNS yes) UseDNS no # PidFile /var/run/sshd.pid MaxStartups 10 # no default banner path Banner /etc/ssh/banner # override default of no subsystems Subsystem sftp /usr/local/libexec/sftp-server

April 8, 2005

RE: Communication between HiTech and others

by albutler33＠netscape.net

wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Subject: [Wlug] Communication between "HiTech" and anyone not in the club. >Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:06:31 -0400 >From: Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >WLUG members: > >There is one HiTech issue about which I am passionate and frustrated. >It is the lack of understanding in the Fitchburg Public School District >of the management efficiencies that are now "best practices"in the >commercial world. I am sure that the Fitchburg case is typical of most >Massachusetts public school districts. > >Our School Committee beats up on the Superintendent over the cost of >multiple Administrators. No one sees that this cost could be contained >if improvements were to be made in the architecture of their internal >network, the structures of their data bases and the training of their >administrators. > >Part of the problem is that the voting public does not understand >either. This is perfect opportunity for the commercial LINUX community >to garner some very good press. If Red Hat, for example, were to team >with the Fitchburg Public School District to implement places where >LINUX is a better answer than M$, it could get general media coverage >as well as Education publication notice. > >My observation is that little trust worthy technical information passes >between HiTech and those who manage our public schools. I would like to >work at bridging that communication gap. > >Ken Jones >kjones(a)ziplink.net > Ken, As a self-proclaimed Open Source advocate and up-and-coming consultant,let me know if there's anything I can do to help you bridge the gap. Al Butler Custom Linux Solutions > >Subject: [Wlug] [Fwd: (Google) Sr. Linux Cluster System Admin. & Sr.Software Engineer/UnixSystem & Network Administrator (2 Job Openings)] >Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 08:41:04 -0400 >From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > > > >HI Everybody, > >If you have any interest in either of these job openings at Google, >please respond to todv(a)google.com, as noted below. > >Later, > >Andy > > > > >- -------- Original Message -------- >Subject: (Google) Sr. Linux Cluster System Admin. & Sr. Software >Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator (2 Job Openings) >Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 19:13:53 -0700 >From: Tod Vanlandingham <todv(a)google.com> >To: <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > > > > >Andy, > > > > >I was curious if you would be open to distributing the 2 job >descriptions below to all of your UG members (via your site). I will >personally respond to each person that is interested in either opening. > >* * > >Thank you, > > > > >Tod Vanlandingham > >Recruiter > >Google > >(650) 253-4291 > >todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> > >* * > >* * > >* * > >* * > >* * > >*Company: Google * > >*Contact: Tod Vanlandingham* > >*Email: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> * > >*Website: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/eng/reli.html* > >* * > >*Job Title: * > >* * > >*(Google) Linux Cluster Systems Administrator/Expert Scripter* > >*Positions based in Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland > >* > >*Relocation a must. Assistance provided*. > >Google's Cluster Operations team is looking for talented system >administrators to help administer Google's complex, proprietary >clustering technologies. Literally thousands of Linux servers power the >technology behind Google.com, and it's a real challenge to administer >these effectively. Google's Cluster Operations team needs seasoned >system administrators to automate complex tasks across a huge cluster. > >Responsibilities: > >* automation of tasks as much as possible through the development of >scripts and administration tools >* configuration of system and network parameters >* monitoring of system stability and performance >* ensuring 24x7 operation of our cluster >* comprehensive documentation of our procedures > >Requirements: > >* B.S. in Computer Science, or equivalent experience >* 5+ years experience with Linux Systems Administration >*Deep understanding of networking i.e.: understanding of how to isolate, >diagnose, and resolve service delivery components (service delivery >components include servers, networks, and applications); be familiar >with the functionality, operating, and failure modes of key networking >devices (routers, switches, bridges, firewalls, hardware load >balancers); be able to identify networking as the potential cause of a >service issue using server-resident tools to generate this data (i.e. >tcpdump, ping, traceroute, etc.); familiarity in interpreting the output >of these tools; familiarity with common network topologies, protocols, >and tools; have some notion of common network security exploits -- and >their remedies; understanding of troubleshooting at the packet level; >intimate knowledge of TCP/IP networking >* strong programming and scripting ability (Python, Perl, bash) >* excellent verbal and written skills >* outstanding customer service abilities > >Please Email resumes to: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> > > > > > > >Job location is Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >*Company: Google * > >*Contact: Tod Vanlandingham* > >*Email: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> * > >*Website: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/eng/reli.html* > >* * > >* * > >*Job Title: * > >* * > >*(Google) Senior Software Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator, >Google.com (SRE)* > >* * > >*Positions based in Mountain View, CA and Dublin Ireland. * > >* * > >*Relocation a must. Assistance provided*. > >Are you part ace coder, part adrenalin junkie? Do you have a knack for >seeing a problem and immediately discerning the likely solution? Maybe >you've been coding for years, are bored with the old >design-build-review-test-ship-repeat routine, and yearn for some >faster-paced challenges? Or perhaps you're a seasoned software engineer >who is also a genius at jockeying networks and administering > >UNIX clusters. > > > > >We're looking for top-notch thrill seeking, software engineers to join >the Google.com team. Google.com engineers are in the thick of everything >involved with keeping Google running, from code-level troubleshooting of >traffic anomalies to maintenance of our most cutting edge services; from >monitoring and alerts to building new automation infrastructure. We are >aggressively building this elite team of high level engineers in this >mission critical environment. > >All team members must have strong analytical and troubleshooting skills, >fluency in coding, good communication skills, and most of all enthusiasm >for tackling the complex problems of scale which are uniquely Google. >Google.com engineers tackle challenging, novel situations every day, and >work with just about every other engineering and operations team in the >process. > > > > >Qualifications: > > > > >Strong programming/scripting skills in any of the following: C, C++, Java, > >Perl, Python > > > > >Senior Level experience with UNIX system administration. > > > > >Strong understanding of networking; -Deep understanding of networking, >understanding of how to isolate, diagnose, and resolve service delivery >components (service delivery components include servers, networks, and >applications); be familiar with the functionality, operating, and >failure modes of key networking devices (routers, switches, bridges, >firewalls, hardware load balancers); be able to identify networking as >the potential cause of a service issue using server-resident tools to >generate this data (tcpdump, ping, traceroute, etc.); familiarity in >interpreting the output of these tools; familiarity with common network >topologies, protocols, and tools; have some notion of common network >security exploits -- and their remedies; understanding of >troubleshooting at the packet level. > > > > >Strong project management skills, especially in deploying live end-user >systems. > > > > >In-depth knowledge of UNIX (preferably Linux), and shell scripting. >Proven technical troubleshooting experience. > >.Excellent analytic ability, strong communication skills, and a strong >sense of urgency. > > > > >Ability to handle periodic on-call duty as well as out-of-band requests. > > > > >6-15+ years experience for Senior SWE position, OR 3-8 years experience for > >SWE position. > > > > >BA/BS in CS, or equivalent experience. > > > > >Please Email resumes to: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> > > > > >Job location is Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland > > > > > > > > > > >Thank you, > > > > >Tod Vanlandingham >Google > >Talent Acquisition >(650) 253-4291 > >todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> > > > > ><http://www.google.com/> > >Media Coverage: > >http://www.google.com/press/press.html ><BLOCKED::http://www.google.com/press/press.html> >Corporate Overview: http://www.google.com/corporate/index.html ><BLOCKED::http://www.google.com/corporate/index.html> >Top 10 Reasons to Work at Google: http://www.google.com/jobs/reasons.html > >Work Life Balance : http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/balance.html > >Looking for interesting work that matters to millions of people? >http://www.google.com/jobs/great-people-needed.html > > > > > > > > > > > > >- -- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA, USA >http://www.wlug.org > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > >iD8DBQFCVnvfHl0iXDssISsRAg6zAJ9ctAIgxYaYGHHS7RVzTaFz+YBvPACffqfq >z6L151kbWzBPLSuFyr77So0= >=mwwr >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] [Fwd: (Google) Sr. Linux Cluster System Admin. & Sr.Software Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator (2 JobOpenings)] >Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:34:02 -0400 >From: Jared Greenwald <greenwaldjared(a)gmail.com> >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >If only this was in the Northeast... > >On Apr 8, 2005 8:41 AM, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> HI Everybody, >> >> If you have any interest in either of these job openings at Google, >> please respond to todv(a)google.com, as noted below. >> >> Later, >> >> Andy >> >> - -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: (Google) Sr. Linux Cluster System Admin. & Sr. Software >> Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator (2 Job Openings) >> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 19:13:53 -0700 >> From: Tod Vanlandingham <todv(a)google.com> >> To: <andystewart(a)comcast.net> >> >> Andy, >> >> I was curious if you would be open to distributing the 2 job >> descriptions below to all of your UG members (via your site). I will >> personally respond to each person that is interested in either opening. >> >> * * >> >> Thank you, >> >> Tod Vanlandingham >> >> Recruiter >> >> Google >> >> (650) 253-4291 >> >> todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> *Company: Google * >> >> *Contact: Tod Vanlandingham* >> >> *Email: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> * >> >> *Website: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/eng/reli.html* >> >> * * >> >> *Job Title: * >> >> * * >> >> *(Google) Linux Cluster Systems Administrator/Expert Scripter* >> >> *Positions based in Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland >> >> * >> >> *Relocation a must. Assistance provided*. >> >> Google's Cluster Operations team is looking for talented system >> administrators to help administer Google's complex, proprietary >> clustering technologies. Literally thousands of Linux servers power the >> technology behind Google.com, and it's a real challenge to administer >> these effectively. Google's Cluster Operations team needs seasoned >> system administrators to automate complex tasks across a huge cluster. >> >> Responsibilities: >> >> * automation of tasks as much as possible through the development of >> scripts and administration tools >> * configuration of system and network parameters >> * monitoring of system stability and performance >> * ensuring 24x7 operation of our cluster >> * comprehensive documentation of our procedures >> >> Requirements: >> >> * B.S. in Computer Science, or equivalent experience >> * 5+ years experience with Linux Systems Administration >> *Deep understanding of networking i.e.: understanding of how to isolate, >> diagnose, and resolve service delivery components (service delivery >> components include servers, networks, and applications); be familiar >> with the functionality, operating, and failure modes of key networking >> devices (routers, switches, bridges, firewalls, hardware load >> balancers); be able to identify networking as the potential cause of a >> service issue using server-resident tools to generate this data (i.e. >> tcpdump, ping, traceroute, etc.); familiarity in interpreting the output >> of these tools; familiarity with common network topologies, protocols, >> and tools; have some notion of common network security exploits -- and >> their remedies; understanding of troubleshooting at the packet level; >> intimate knowledge of TCP/IP networking >> * strong programming and scripting ability (Python, Perl, bash) >> * excellent verbal and written skills >> * outstanding customer service abilities >> >> Please Email resumes to: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> >> >> Job location is Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland >> >> - >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> *Company: Google * >> >> *Contact: Tod Vanlandingham* >> >> *Email: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> * >> >> *Website: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/eng/reli.html* >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> *Job Title: * >> >> * * >> >> *(Google) Senior Software Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator, >> Google.com (SRE)* >> >> * * >> >> *Positions based in Mountain View, CA and Dublin Ireland. * >> >> * * >> >> *Relocation a must. Assistance provided*. >> >> Are you part ace coder, part adrenalin junkie? Do you have a knack for >> seeing a problem and immediately discerning the likely solution? Maybe >> you've been coding for years, are bored with the old >> design-build-review-test-ship-repeat routine, and yearn for some >> faster-paced challenges? Or perhaps you're a seasoned software engineer >> who is also a genius at jockeying networks and administering >> >> UNIX clusters. >> >> We're looking for top-notch thrill seeking, software engineers to join >> the Google.com team. Google.com engineers are in the thick of everything >> involved with keeping Google running, from code-level troubleshooting of >> traffic anomalies to maintenance of our most cutting edge services; from >> monitoring and alerts to building new automation infrastructure. We are >> aggressively building this elite team of high level engineers in this >> mission critical environment. >> >> All team members must have strong analytical and troubleshooting skills, >> fluency in coding, good communication skills, and most of all enthusiasm >> for tackling the complex problems of scale which are uniquely Google. >> Google.com engineers tackle challenging, novel situations every day, and >> work with just about every other engineering and operations team in the >> process. >> >> Qualifications: >> >> Strong programming/scripting skills in any of the following: C, C++, Java, >> >> Perl, Python >> >> Senior Level experience with UNIX system administration. >> >> Strong understanding of networking; -Deep understanding of networking, >> understanding of how to isolate, diagnose, and resolve service delivery >> components (service delivery components include servers, networks, and >> applications); be familiar with the functionality, operating, and >> failure modes of key networking devices (routers, switches, bridges, >> firewalls, hardware load balancers); be able to identify networking as >> the potential cause of a service issue using server-resident tools to >> generate this data (tcpdump, ping, traceroute, etc.); familiarity in >> interpreting the output of these tools; familiarity with common network >> topologies, protocols, and tools; have some notion of common network >> security exploits -- and their remedies; understanding of >> troubleshooting at the packet level. >> >> Strong project management skills, especially in deploying live end-user >> systems. >> >> In-depth knowledge of UNIX (preferably Linux), and shell scripting. >> Proven technical troubleshooting experience. >> >> .Excellent analytic ability, strong communication skills, and a strong >> sense of urgency. >> >> Ability to handle periodic on-call duty as well as out-of-band requests. >> >> 6-15+ years experience for Senior SWE position, OR 3-8 years experience for >> >> SWE position. >> >> BA/BS in CS, or equivalent experience. >> >> Please Email resumes to: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> >> >> Job location is Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland >> >> Thank you, >> >> Tod Vanlandingham >> Google >> >> Talent Acquisition >> (650) 253-4291 >> >> todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> >> >> <http://www.google.com/> >> >> Media Coverage: >> >> http://www.google.com/press/press.html >> <BLOCKED::http://www.google.com/press/press.html> >> Corporate Overview: http://www.google.com/corporate/index.html >> <BLOCKED::http://www.google.com/corporate/index.html> >> Top 10 Reasons to Work at Google: http://www.google.com/jobs/reasons.html >> >> Work Life Balance : http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/balance.html >> >> Looking for interesting work that matters to millions of people? >> http://www.google.com/jobs/great-people-needed.html >> >> - -- >> Andy Stewart, Founder >> Worcester Linux Users' Group >> Worcester, MA, USA >> http://www.wlug.org >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >> >> iD8DBQFCVnvfHl0iXDssISsRAg6zAJ9ctAIgxYaYGHHS7RVzTaFz+YBvPACffqfq >> z6L151kbWzBPLSuFyr77So0= >> =mwwr >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. 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April 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] A OpenSSH question.

by John Stoffel

joel> I am running into a problem trying to setup OpenSSH 3.6.1 on joel> FreeBSD 5.3 release. I am connecting via clients (both ssh on joel> BSD and WinSCP on Windows). I know this is not a FreeBSD group, joel> but I bet someone else has run into this problem on a Unix-like joel> platform. I'd also recommend 'putty' as a windows client. joel> When I test the server with "sshd -ddd", I get an error back joel> from the server which reads: debug3: Not a RSA1 key file joel> /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key How did you create the server key? Can you post you sshd_config (or is it sshd.config?) file so we cna look at it? joel> I have tried creating the above server key many times with no joel> apparent luck. How did you create the key? joel> The clients connect to the server but the connect time is way joel> over 60 seconds so I am bummed out. That almost sounds like you have reverse DNS turned on, but that your server isn't resolving properly. Can you check your configuration to make sure that you do NOT have reverse DNS resolving turned on? My last FreeBSD box died, so I don't have one handy to check configs. joel> I have looked on the OpenSSH site and googled for it but have joel> not found a workable solution. It's sounding more like a reverse DNS issue. Can your FreeBSD box resolve various hostnames outside and inside your domain? John

April 8, 2005

A OpenSSH question.

by joel d

Hi, I am running into a problem trying to setup OpenSSH 3.6.1 on FreeBSD 5.3 release. I am connecting via clients (both ssh on BSD and WinSCP on Windows). I know this is not a FreeBSD group, but I bet someone else has run into this problem on a Unix-like platform. When I test the server with "sshd -ddd", I get an error back from the server which reads: debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key I have tried creating the above server key many times with no apparent luck. The clients connect to the server but the connect time is way over 60 seconds so I am bummed out. I have looked on the OpenSSH site and googled for it but have not found a workable solution. Any ideas would be appreciated, Thank you, Joel

April 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] [Fwd: (Google) Sr. Linux Cluster System Admin. & Sr. Software Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator (2 Job Openings)]

by Jared Greenwald

If only this was in the Northeast... On Apr 8, 2005 8:41 AM, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > HI Everybody, > > If you have any interest in either of these job openings at Google, > please respond to todv(a)google.com, as noted below. > > Later, > > Andy > > - -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: (Google) Sr. Linux Cluster System Admin. & Sr. Software > Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator (2 Job Openings) > Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 19:13:53 -0700 > From: Tod Vanlandingham <todv(a)google.com> > To: <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > > Andy, > > I was curious if you would be open to distributing the 2 job > descriptions below to all of your UG members (via your site). I will > personally respond to each person that is interested in either opening. > > * * > > Thank you, > > Tod Vanlandingham > > Recruiter > > Google > > (650) 253-4291 > > todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> > > * * > > * * > > * * > > * * > > * * > > *Company: Google * > > *Contact: Tod Vanlandingham* > > *Email: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> * > > *Website: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/eng/reli.html* > > * * > > *Job Title: * > > * * > > *(Google) Linux Cluster Systems Administrator/Expert Scripter* > > *Positions based in Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland > > * > > *Relocation a must. Assistance provided*. > > Google's Cluster Operations team is looking for talented system > administrators to help administer Google's complex, proprietary > clustering technologies. Literally thousands of Linux servers power the > technology behind Google.com, and it's a real challenge to administer > these effectively. Google's Cluster Operations team needs seasoned > system administrators to automate complex tasks across a huge cluster. > > Responsibilities: > > * automation of tasks as much as possible through the development of > scripts and administration tools > * configuration of system and network parameters > * monitoring of system stability and performance > * ensuring 24x7 operation of our cluster > * comprehensive documentation of our procedures > > Requirements: > > * B.S. in Computer Science, or equivalent experience > * 5+ years experience with Linux Systems Administration > *Deep understanding of networking i.e.: understanding of how to isolate, > diagnose, and resolve service delivery components (service delivery > components include servers, networks, and applications); be familiar > with the functionality, operating, and failure modes of key networking > devices (routers, switches, bridges, firewalls, hardware load > balancers); be able to identify networking as the potential cause of a > service issue using server-resident tools to generate this data (i.e. > tcpdump, ping, traceroute, etc.); familiarity in interpreting the output > of these tools; familiarity with common network topologies, protocols, > and tools; have some notion of common network security exploits -- and > their remedies; understanding of troubleshooting at the packet level; > intimate knowledge of TCP/IP networking > * strong programming and scripting ability (Python, Perl, bash) > * excellent verbal and written skills > * outstanding customer service abilities > > Please Email resumes to: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> > > Job location is Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland > > - > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *Company: Google * > > *Contact: Tod Vanlandingham* > > *Email: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> * > > *Website: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/eng/reli.html* > > * * > > * * > > *Job Title: * > > * * > > *(Google) Senior Software Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator, > Google.com (SRE)* > > * * > > *Positions based in Mountain View, CA and Dublin Ireland. * > > * * > > *Relocation a must. Assistance provided*. > > Are you part ace coder, part adrenalin junkie? Do you have a knack for > seeing a problem and immediately discerning the likely solution? Maybe > you've been coding for years, are bored with the old > design-build-review-test-ship-repeat routine, and yearn for some > faster-paced challenges? Or perhaps you're a seasoned software engineer > who is also a genius at jockeying networks and administering > > UNIX clusters. > > We're looking for top-notch thrill seeking, software engineers to join > the Google.com team. Google.com engineers are in the thick of everything > involved with keeping Google running, from code-level troubleshooting of > traffic anomalies to maintenance of our most cutting edge services; from > monitoring and alerts to building new automation infrastructure. We are > aggressively building this elite team of high level engineers in this > mission critical environment. > > All team members must have strong analytical and troubleshooting skills, > fluency in coding, good communication skills, and most of all enthusiasm > for tackling the complex problems of scale which are uniquely Google. > Google.com engineers tackle challenging, novel situations every day, and > work with just about every other engineering and operations team in the > process. > > Qualifications: > > Strong programming/scripting skills in any of the following: C, C++, Java, > > Perl, Python > > Senior Level experience with UNIX system administration. > > Strong understanding of networking; -Deep understanding of networking, > understanding of how to isolate, diagnose, and resolve service delivery > components (service delivery components include servers, networks, and > applications); be familiar with the functionality, operating, and > failure modes of key networking devices (routers, switches, bridges, > firewalls, hardware load balancers); be able to identify networking as > the potential cause of a service issue using server-resident tools to > generate this data (tcpdump, ping, traceroute, etc.); familiarity in > interpreting the output of these tools; familiarity with common network > topologies, protocols, and tools; have some notion of common network > security exploits -- and their remedies; understanding of > troubleshooting at the packet level. > > Strong project management skills, especially in deploying live end-user > systems. > > In-depth knowledge of UNIX (preferably Linux), and shell scripting. > Proven technical troubleshooting experience. > > .Excellent analytic ability, strong communication skills, and a strong > sense of urgency. > > Ability to handle periodic on-call duty as well as out-of-band requests. > > 6-15+ years experience for Senior SWE position, OR 3-8 years experience for > > SWE position. > > BA/BS in CS, or equivalent experience. > > Please Email resumes to: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> > > Job location is Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland > > Thank you, > > Tod Vanlandingham > Google > > Talent Acquisition > (650) 253-4291 > > todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> > > <http://www.google.com/> > > Media Coverage: > > http://www.google.com/press/press.html > <BLOCKED::http://www.google.com/press/press.html> > Corporate Overview: http://www.google.com/corporate/index.html > <BLOCKED::http://www.google.com/corporate/index.html> > Top 10 Reasons to Work at Google: http://www.google.com/jobs/reasons.html > > Work Life Balance : http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/balance.html > > Looking for interesting work that matters to millions of people? > http://www.google.com/jobs/great-people-needed.html > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFCVnvfHl0iXDssISsRAg6zAJ9ctAIgxYaYGHHS7RVzTaFz+YBvPACffqfq > z6L151kbWzBPLSuFyr77So0= > =mwwr > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 8, 2005

[Fwd: (Google) Sr. Linux Cluster System Admin. & Sr. Software Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator (2 Job Openings)]

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, If you have any interest in either of these job openings at Google, please respond to todv(a)google.com, as noted below. Later, Andy - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: (Google) Sr. Linux Cluster System Admin. & Sr. Software Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator (2 Job Openings) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 19:13:53 -0700 From: Tod Vanlandingham <todv(a)google.com> To: <andystewart(a)comcast.net> Andy, I was curious if you would be open to distributing the 2 job descriptions below to all of your UG members (via your site). I will personally respond to each person that is interested in either opening. * * Thank you, Tod Vanlandingham Recruiter Google (650) 253-4291 todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> * * * * * * * * * * *Company: Google * *Contact: Tod Vanlandingham* *Email: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> * *Website: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/eng/reli.html* * * *Job Title: * * * *(Google) Linux Cluster Systems Administrator/Expert Scripter* *Positions based in Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland * *Relocation a must. Assistance provided*. Google's Cluster Operations team is looking for talented system administrators to help administer Google's complex, proprietary clustering technologies. Literally thousands of Linux servers power the technology behind Google.com, and it's a real challenge to administer these effectively. Google's Cluster Operations team needs seasoned system administrators to automate complex tasks across a huge cluster. Responsibilities: * automation of tasks as much as possible through the development of scripts and administration tools * configuration of system and network parameters * monitoring of system stability and performance * ensuring 24x7 operation of our cluster * comprehensive documentation of our procedures Requirements: * B.S. in Computer Science, or equivalent experience * 5+ years experience with Linux Systems Administration *Deep understanding of networking i.e.: understanding of how to isolate, diagnose, and resolve service delivery components (service delivery components include servers, networks, and applications); be familiar with the functionality, operating, and failure modes of key networking devices (routers, switches, bridges, firewalls, hardware load balancers); be able to identify networking as the potential cause of a service issue using server-resident tools to generate this data (i.e. tcpdump, ping, traceroute, etc.); familiarity in interpreting the output of these tools; familiarity with common network topologies, protocols, and tools; have some notion of common network security exploits -- and their remedies; understanding of troubleshooting at the packet level; intimate knowledge of TCP/IP networking * strong programming and scripting ability (Python, Perl, bash) * excellent verbal and written skills * outstanding customer service abilities Please Email resumes to: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> Job location is Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *Company: Google * *Contact: Tod Vanlandingham* *Email: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> * *Website: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/eng/reli.html* * * * * *Job Title: * * * *(Google) Senior Software Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator, Google.com (SRE)* * * *Positions based in Mountain View, CA and Dublin Ireland. * * * *Relocation a must. Assistance provided*. Are you part ace coder, part adrenalin junkie? Do you have a knack for seeing a problem and immediately discerning the likely solution? Maybe you've been coding for years, are bored with the old design-build-review-test-ship-repeat routine, and yearn for some faster-paced challenges? Or perhaps you're a seasoned software engineer who is also a genius at jockeying networks and administering UNIX clusters. We're looking for top-notch thrill seeking, software engineers to join the Google.com team. Google.com engineers are in the thick of everything involved with keeping Google running, from code-level troubleshooting of traffic anomalies to maintenance of our most cutting edge services; from monitoring and alerts to building new automation infrastructure. We are aggressively building this elite team of high level engineers in this mission critical environment. All team members must have strong analytical and troubleshooting skills, fluency in coding, good communication skills, and most of all enthusiasm for tackling the complex problems of scale which are uniquely Google. Google.com engineers tackle challenging, novel situations every day, and work with just about every other engineering and operations team in the process. Qualifications: Strong programming/scripting skills in any of the following: C, C++, Java, Perl, Python Senior Level experience with UNIX system administration. Strong understanding of networking; -Deep understanding of networking, understanding of how to isolate, diagnose, and resolve service delivery components (service delivery components include servers, networks, and applications); be familiar with the functionality, operating, and failure modes of key networking devices (routers, switches, bridges, firewalls, hardware load balancers); be able to identify networking as the potential cause of a service issue using server-resident tools to generate this data (tcpdump, ping, traceroute, etc.); familiarity in interpreting the output of these tools; familiarity with common network topologies, protocols, and tools; have some notion of common network security exploits -- and their remedies; understanding of troubleshooting at the packet level. Strong project management skills, especially in deploying live end-user systems. In-depth knowledge of UNIX (preferably Linux), and shell scripting. Proven technical troubleshooting experience. .Excellent analytic ability, strong communication skills, and a strong sense of urgency. Ability to handle periodic on-call duty as well as out-of-band requests. 6-15+ years experience for Senior SWE position, OR 3-8 years experience for SWE position. BA/BS in CS, or equivalent experience. Please Email resumes to: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> Job location is Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland Thank you, Tod Vanlandingham Google Talent Acquisition (650) 253-4291 todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> <http://www.google.com/> Media Coverage: http://www.google.com/press/press.html <BLOCKED::http://www.google.com/press/press.html> Corporate Overview: http://www.google.com/corporate/index.html <BLOCKED::http://www.google.com/corporate/index.html> Top 10 Reasons to Work at Google: http://www.google.com/jobs/reasons.html Work Life Balance : http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/balance.html Looking for interesting work that matters to millions of people? http://www.google.com/jobs/great-people-needed.html - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCVnvfHl0iXDssISsRAg6zAJ9ctAIgxYaYGHHS7RVzTaFz+YBvPACffqfq z6L151kbWzBPLSuFyr77So0= =mwwr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 8, 2005

Communication between "HiTech" and anyone not in the club.

by Ken Jones

WLUG members: There is one HiTech issue about which I am passionate and frustrated. It is the lack of understanding in the Fitchburg Public School District of the management efficiencies that are now "best practices"in the commercial world. I am sure that the Fitchburg case is typical of most Massachusetts public school districts. Our School Committee beats up on the Superintendent over the cost of multiple Administrators. No one sees that this cost could be contained if improvements were to be made in the architecture of their internal network, the structures of their data bases and the training of their administrators. Part of the problem is that the voting public does not understand either. This is perfect opportunity for the commercial LINUX community to garner some very good press. If Red Hat, for example, were to team with the Fitchburg Public School District to implement places where LINUX is a better answer than M$, it could get general media coverage as well as Education publication notice. My observation is that little trust worthy technical information passes between HiTech and those who manage our public schools. I would like to work at bridging that communication gap. Ken Jones kjones(a)ziplink.net

April 8, 2005

Linux/Unix file systems engineer

by John Spencer

My client in northern MA (LOCAL candidates only please) has a need for a strong Linux, Unix or MAC OS X file systems consultant. This is a 3 mth+ contract. Must have experience developing software for multiple platforms. Strong background with C/C++ as well as operating system kernel level development experience is needed. Familiarity and experience with distributed file systems networking is a strong plus. Source management experience with ClearCase is also a plus. Please forward your resume to jspencer AT optimaleng DOT com Regards, John Spencer Optimal Engineering

April 6, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Cups help

by Robert L Krawitz

Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:46:06 -0500 From: Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> Thanks to everyone's help, but I've figured out the backend stuff and written my own perl script that does the accounting using mysql. It's actually really neat and incredibly easy to use. I'm in the process of refinining it a bit now and if anyone is interested in it, I'd be more than happy to send it your way. It uses snmp to query the pages from the printer so it actually determines the number of pages printer and not just how many should have printed. So you have a network printer that can report that kind of thing. I guess I'm used to thinking of cheap, dumb inkjet printers. On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:46:57 -0500, Robert L Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:26:46 -0500 > From: "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> > > Chuck> This is a question for those cups guru's out there. I'm > Chuck> trying to write a custom perl script for cups that does > Chuck> accounting. I have a database with users and quotas and I'm > Chuck> writing a filter for cups that checks to make sure the user > Chuck> has enough left on their balance before printing. I was > Chuck> curious how I would go about sticking this into the cups > Chuck> filtering chain. I've been reading up on the cups docs but > Chuck> I'm still kinda confused on where to put it. Any help would > Chuck> be much appreciated. > > How are you going to count pages before you send them to the printer? > > That was always the problem we had, esp when someone messed up and > sent garbage to the laser printer at $0.10/page way back in the > late 80s, and then came up to find a 1" thick stack waiting for > them... with just one letter per page > > Or are you going to pre-render, count the pages, then get the page > counter on the printer, print, and read the page counter to see > what actually got through? > > I'd also google, since I can't imagine that you're the only one > who's wanted something like this before... > > I'd try the cups-devel(a)cups.org mailing list (you may need to > subscribe). > > This is actually a very hard problem if you don't have a printer that > will do the accounting itself. Unless you can interpret the codes > going to the printer, you can't even start to do this.

March 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] [Fwd: Invitation to Developing on Open Standards Databases -IBM tech briefing in Boston on April 5]

by Jared Greenwald

Can I go if I'm an Oracle employee? On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:14:52 -0500, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Invitation to Developing on Open Standards Databases -IBM tech > briefing in Boston on April 5 > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:50:20 -0800 > From: Karen C Lee <leekc(a)us.ibm.com> > > Please join us and extend this invitations to the complimentary IBM > briefing to your user group members and colleagues. > > Do you want to learn how to develop and deploy database applications for > the small to medium business on Linux? Cloudscape/Derby, IBM DB2 > Express and IBM DB2 Everyplace are exactly what you need to get started. > > More than 80 IBM products use Java-based Cloudscape for its portability, > easy deployment, open standards-based Java engine, small footprint, and > more. Developers worldwide are taking advantage of these benefits, and > now you can too. > > Register today for this briefing by visiting: > http://www.ibm.com/developerWorks/offers/techbriefings/ > These briefings will be held in the following cities: > ** Boston on April 5* > * Montreal on April 7 > * Chicago on April 12 > * San Francisco on April 14 > * Austin on May 17 > * Toronto on May 19 > > During this event, you'll see IBM DB2 Universal Database Express Edition > V8.2 -- the lowest priced, full-function relational database on Linux > or Windows platform choices. We'll also demonstrate how DB2 Everyplace > features a small footprint relational database and high performance data > synchronization solution that enables enterprise applications and data > to be securely extended to mobile devices such as personal digital > assistants (PDAs), smart phones and other embedded mobile devices. The > briefing will end with a discussion on how to build database intensive > web applications using IBM DB2 and IBM Rational Web Developer. All > attendees will receive trial software from IBM. > > To reserve your seat for this briefing please visit. > http://www.ibm.com/developerWorks/offers/techbriefings/ > > Sincerely, > > The IBM developerWorks Team > > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 30, 2005

[Fwd: Invitation to Developing on Open Standards Databases -IBM tech briefing in Boston on April 5]

by Andy Stewart

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Invitation to Developing on Open Standards Databases -IBM tech briefing in Boston on April 5 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:50:20 -0800 From: Karen C Lee <leekc(a)us.ibm.com> Please join us and extend this invitations to the complimentary IBM briefing to your user group members and colleagues. Do you want to learn how to develop and deploy database applications for the small to medium business on Linux? Cloudscape/Derby, IBM DB2 Express and IBM DB2 Everyplace are exactly what you need to get started. More than 80 IBM products use Java-based Cloudscape for its portability, easy deployment, open standards-based Java engine, small footprint, and more. Developers worldwide are taking advantage of these benefits, and now you can too. Register today for this briefing by visiting: http://www.ibm.com/developerWorks/offers/techbriefings/ These briefings will be held in the following cities: ** Boston on April 5* * Montreal on April 7 * Chicago on April 12 * San Francisco on April 14 * Austin on May 17 * Toronto on May 19 During this event, you'll see IBM DB2 Universal Database Express Edition V8.2 -- the lowest priced, full-function relational database on Linux or Windows platform choices. We'll also demonstrate how DB2 Everyplace features a small footprint relational database and high performance data synchronization solution that enables enterprise applications and data to be securely extended to mobile devices such as personal digital assistants (PDAs), smart phones and other embedded mobile devices. The briefing will end with a discussion on how to build database intensive web applications using IBM DB2 and IBM Rational Web Developer. All attendees will receive trial software from IBM. To reserve your seat for this briefing please visit. http://www.ibm.com/developerWorks/offers/techbriefings/ Sincerely, The IBM developerWorks Team -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Cups help

by Chuck Haines

Since there seems to be a decent bit of interest in this script, I'll post when my release version 0.2 today. For anyone who is interested check out http://gforge.maxslack.com/projects/cupsacct/. It's my personal project site and I have put up the first release. I'll be releasing the files here so it's the best way to get them. Not all the components of the project site are working yet (mostly web based CVS) but you can download the release tarball if you are interested. Also note that this script is still heavily modified for specific use in the ECE databases. I'm working on changing it so that it will be more universal and include sql to create the database and tables. Chuck On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:14:59 -0500, Rob Taylor <rob.taylor(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > Chuck: > > I'd be rather interested in (any) details about this > and the SNMP part in particular if/when You have a chance ! > Sounds like a pretty nifty integration. > > Thanks, > Rob.Taylor(a)earthlink.net > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:46:06 -0500 > From: Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Cups help > To: Robert L Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> > Cc: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <a663f660050330074617e32767(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks to everyone's help, but I've figured out the backend stuff and > written my own perl script that does the accounting using mysql. It's > actually really neat and incredibly easy to use. I'm in the process > of refinining it a bit now and if anyone is interested in it, I'd be > more than happy to send it your way. It uses snmp to query the pages > from the printer so it actually determines the number of pages printer > and not just how many should have printed. > -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com http://www.maxslack.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Permanently unloading the usb-storage kernel module under FC3

by Eric Martin

just comment it out from /etc/modules.autoload.2/kernel-2.x (4 or 6, whichever you happen to be using) On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:35:39 -0500, Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> wrote: > Chuck R. Anderson wrote: > > >On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 11:23:44AM -0500, Andrew Robert wrote: > > > > > >>/sbin/rmmod usb-storage > >>This works great but the module reappears the next time I boot the > >>beast. > >>Does anyone know of a way to make this permanently go away? > >> > >> > > > >/etc/modprobe.conf: > >install usb-storage /bin/true > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > Hmm .. > > I could be wrong on this but wouldn't it be > > install usb-storage /bin/false > > Or am I misunderstanding the value of /bin/true? > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Permanently unloading the usb-storage kernel module under FC3

by Andrew Robert

Chuck R. Anderson wrote: >On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 11:23:44AM -0500, Andrew Robert wrote: > > >>/sbin/rmmod usb-storage >>This works great but the module reappears the next time I boot the >>beast. >>Does anyone know of a way to make this permanently go away? >> >> > >/etc/modprobe.conf: >install usb-storage /bin/true > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > Hmm .. I could be wrong on this but wouldn't it be install usb-storage /bin/false Or am I misunderstanding the value of /bin/true?

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Permanently unloading the usb-storage kernel module under FC3

by Chuck R. Anderson

On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 11:23:44AM -0500, Andrew Robert wrote: > /sbin/rmmod usb-storage > This works great but the module reappears the next time I boot the > beast. > Does anyone know of a way to make this permanently go away? /etc/modprobe.conf: install usb-storage /bin/true

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Permanently unloading the usb-storage kernel module under FC3

by Andrew Robert

Jared Greenwald wrote: >Short of rebuilding the kernel without the usb-storage support... > >Isn't there a script that runs vmware? Can't you just put the rmmod >command in there? Or just write a new script that runs during rc1 or >rc0 to run rmmod? > >-J > > >On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:23:44 -0500, Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> wrote: > > >>Hi Everyone, >> >>I have a 160G NTFS partitioned USB external disk drive that I would like >> to use in my VMware instance. >> >>I tried to get VMware to recognize the drive but it failed to do so >>because the Linux USB driver had it locked. >> >>Removing and re-attaching the drive did not release the driver lock. >> >>What resolved the problem was to unload the usb-storage kernel module >>using the command: >> >>/sbin/rmmod usb-storage >> >>This works great but the module reappears the next time I boot the >>beast. >> >>Does anyone know of a way to make this permanently go away? >> >>Any help you can provide on this would be greatly appreciated. >> >>Thank you, >>Andy >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > Good Idea.. I guess I was looking at the problem too closely.

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Permanently unloading the usb-storage kernel module under FC3

by Jared Greenwald

Short of rebuilding the kernel without the usb-storage support... Isn't there a script that runs vmware? Can't you just put the rmmod command in there? Or just write a new script that runs during rc1 or rc0 to run rmmod? -J On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:23:44 -0500, Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have a 160G NTFS partitioned USB external disk drive that I would like > to use in my VMware instance. > > I tried to get VMware to recognize the drive but it failed to do so > because the Linux USB driver had it locked. > > Removing and re-attaching the drive did not release the driver lock. > > What resolved the problem was to unload the usb-storage kernel module > using the command: > > /sbin/rmmod usb-storage > > This works great but the module reappears the next time I boot the > beast. > > Does anyone know of a way to make this permanently go away? > > Any help you can provide on this would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > Andy > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Cups help

by Jared Greenwald

Would it be useful to post it as the text of an email so that it gets archived in the normal manner and people can just grab it from the archives? -Jared On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:46:06 -0500, Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks to everyone's help, but I've figured out the backend stuff and > written my own perl script that does the accounting using mysql. It's > actually really neat and incredibly easy to use. I'm in the process > of refinining it a bit now and if anyone is interested in it, I'd be > more than happy to send it your way. It uses snmp to query the pages > from the printer so it actually determines the number of pages printer > and not just how many should have printed. > > Chuck > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:46:57 -0500, Robert L Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:26:46 -0500 > > From: "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> > > > > Chuck> This is a question for those cups guru's out there. I'm > > Chuck> trying to write a custom perl script for cups that does > > Chuck> accounting. I have a database with users and quotas and I'm > > Chuck> writing a filter for cups that checks to make sure the user > > Chuck> has enough left on their balance before printing. I was > > Chuck> curious how I would go about sticking this into the cups > > Chuck> filtering chain. I've been reading up on the cups docs but > > Chuck> I'm still kinda confused on where to put it. Any help would > > Chuck> be much appreciated. > > > > How are you going to count pages before you send them to the printer? > > > > That was always the problem we had, esp when someone messed up and > > sent garbage to the laser printer at $0.10/page way back in the > > late 80s, and then came up to find a 1" thick stack waiting for > > them... with just one letter per page > > > > Or are you going to pre-render, count the pages, then get the page > > counter on the printer, print, and read the page counter to see > > what actually got through? > > > > I'd also google, since I can't imagine that you're the only one > > who's wanted something like this before... > > > > I'd try the cups-devel(a)cups.org mailing list (you may need to > > subscribe). > > > > This is actually a very hard problem if you don't have a printer that > > will do the accounting itself. Unless you can interpret the codes > > going to the printer, you can't even start to do this. > > > > -- > > Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> > > > > Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 > > Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net > > Project lead for Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net > > > > "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." > > --Eric Crampton > > > > -- > Chuck Haines > chaines(a)gmail.com > http://www.maxslack.com > ------------------------------------------- > Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity > TKE-ZM Web Coordinator > ECE Systems Administrator > ------------------------------------------- > AIM: CyberGrex > YIM: CyberGrex_27 > ICQ: 3707881 > ------------------------------------------- > GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 > GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 30, 2005

Permanently unloading the usb-storage kernel module under FC3

by Andrew Robert

Hi Everyone, I have a 160G NTFS partitioned USB external disk drive that I would like to use in my VMware instance. I tried to get VMware to recognize the drive but it failed to do so because the Linux USB driver had it locked. Removing and re-attaching the drive did not release the driver lock. What resolved the problem was to unload the usb-storage kernel module using the command: /sbin/rmmod usb-storage This works great but the module reappears the next time I boot the beast. Does anyone know of a way to make this permanently go away? Any help you can provide on this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Andy

March 30, 2005

Topic idea

by Mike Leo

Is there any interest in a linux fundamentals talk? It seems like I am the noobi'est member of the lug and don't want to bore everyone, but a discussion around basic installs (partitioning, swap size, boot loaders, etc), upgrades (apt, yum, emerge), application installs (rpm's, source) and kernel patching and upgrades would be a good nights discussion. I don't mind participating in the speaking, but I have plenty of questions myself. Just a thought. Mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Cups help

by Chuck Haines

Thanks to everyone's help, but I've figured out the backend stuff and written my own perl script that does the accounting using mysql. It's actually really neat and incredibly easy to use. I'm in the process of refinining it a bit now and if anyone is interested in it, I'd be more than happy to send it your way. It uses snmp to query the pages from the printer so it actually determines the number of pages printer and not just how many should have printed. Chuck On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:46:57 -0500, Robert L Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:26:46 -0500 > From: "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> > > Chuck> This is a question for those cups guru's out there. I'm > Chuck> trying to write a custom perl script for cups that does > Chuck> accounting. I have a database with users and quotas and I'm > Chuck> writing a filter for cups that checks to make sure the user > Chuck> has enough left on their balance before printing. I was > Chuck> curious how I would go about sticking this into the cups > Chuck> filtering chain. I've been reading up on the cups docs but > Chuck> I'm still kinda confused on where to put it. Any help would > Chuck> be much appreciated. > > How are you going to count pages before you send them to the printer? > > That was always the problem we had, esp when someone messed up and > sent garbage to the laser printer at $0.10/page way back in the > late 80s, and then came up to find a 1" thick stack waiting for > them... with just one letter per page > > Or are you going to pre-render, count the pages, then get the page > counter on the printer, print, and read the page counter to see > what actually got through? > > I'd also google, since I can't imagine that you're the only one > who's wanted something like this before... > > I'd try the cups-devel(a)cups.org mailing list (you may need to > subscribe). > > This is actually a very hard problem if you don't have a printer that > will do the accounting itself. Unless you can interpret the codes > going to the printer, you can't even start to do this. > > -- > Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> > > Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 > Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net > Project lead for Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net > > "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." > --Eric Crampton > -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com http://www.maxslack.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

March 30, 2005

Job Opening: UNIX/Linux SysAdmin

by Theo Van Dinter

Another job opening from my employer, for those interested. Company out of Needham, MA. :) ----- Forwarded message ----- TechTarget is looking to hire a competent linux/unix sysadmin with 1-2 years of production experience. Details on the position are attached. Details on working for TechTarget can be found at http://www.techtarget.com/html/job_opps.htm Please contact me directly with any questions. TechTarget Role Description Position: Systems & Networks Administrator Role Definition: Manage servers and SANs based upon Sun Solaris and RedHat Enterprise Linux as well as the underlying network architecture based upon Cisco and Nortel which drives our network of web sites. Monitor overall performance and capacity, tune system for performance and administer user access, security and back up. Ability to research, plan, and implement new technologies as needed. Three years sysadmin/netadmin experience required. Experience with Veritas NetBackup a plus. Required Competencies: *Strong analytical, teamwork, and problem solving skills *Technical expertise in Sun Solaris, RedHat Linux, general UNIX, IOS, and Apache *Ability to efficiently manage multiple systems and network devices *Ability to implement and plan details of projects *Ability to manage and architect SANs based upon EMC and STK technologies *Ability to multi-task with projects of varying priority Reports To: Director of IT Operations, Product Systems Required Experience: Must have prior responsibility for administration of Solaris, Linux, and IOS. Extraordinary knowledge of installing, upgrading and optimizing Solaris, Linux, SANs, and Cisco equipment within a sophisticated computer network. Ability to manage mail subsystems (sendmail/postfix), DNS (BIND 9), and other day-to-day activities. Initial Mandate: 1.Conduct systems audit, present findings and make recommendations. *Security ? passwords, user accounts, auditing *Analyze configuration parameters ? memory size, system usage, network utilization *Document systems and network configuration 2.Plan and install systems and network hardware, sized and tuned for optimal throughput and reliability. *Evaluate disk spacing and resize/add data files 3.Ensure service performance through established metrics and audits. *Implement upgrade and recovery strategies *Serve as liaison with vendors; report problems and obtain technical solutions *Tune systems and network infrastructure As of 03/29/05 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Thinking of using NT for your critical apps? Isn't there enough suffering in the world?" - Sun Microsystems Ad

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Cups help

by Robert L Krawitz

Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:26:46 -0500 From: "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> Chuck> This is a question for those cups guru's out there. I'm Chuck> trying to write a custom perl script for cups that does Chuck> accounting. I have a database with users and quotas and I'm Chuck> writing a filter for cups that checks to make sure the user Chuck> has enough left on their balance before printing. I was Chuck> curious how I would go about sticking this into the cups Chuck> filtering chain. I've been reading up on the cups docs but Chuck> I'm still kinda confused on where to put it. Any help would Chuck> be much appreciated. How are you going to count pages before you send them to the printer? That was always the problem we had, esp when someone messed up and sent garbage to the laser printer at $0.10/page way back in the late 80s, and then came up to find a 1" thick stack waiting for them... with just one letter per page Or are you going to pre-render, count the pages, then get the page counter on the printer, print, and read the page counter to see what actually got through? I'd also google, since I can't imagine that you're the only one who's wanted something like this before... I'd try the cups-devel(a)cups.org mailing list (you may need to subscribe). This is actually a very hard problem if you don't have a printer that will do the accounting itself. Unless you can interpret the codes going to the printer, you can't even start to do this. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Cups help

by John Stoffel

Chuck> This is a question for those cups guru's out there. I'm trying Chuck> to write a custom perl script for cups that does accounting. I Chuck> have a database with users and quotas and I'm writing a filter Chuck> for cups that checks to make sure the user has enough left on Chuck> their balance before printing. I was curious how I would go Chuck> about sticking this into the cups filtering chain. I've been Chuck> reading up on the cups docs but I'm still kinda confused on Chuck> where to put it. Any help would be much appreciated. How are you going to count pages before you send them to the printer? That was always the problem we had, esp when someone messed up and sent garbage to the laser printer at $0.10/page way back in the late 80s, and then came up to find a 1" thick stack waiting for them... with just one letter per page Or are you going to pre-render, count the pages, then get the page counter on the printer, print, and read the page counter to see what actually got through? I'd also google, since I can't imagine that you're the only one who's wanted something like this before... John

March 29, 2005

The Technical Professional in 2010

by Al Reinhart

Thought this might be of interest to some of you: On Thursday, April 7^th there is a WPI / IEEE Worcester County Section meeting with Dr. Arthur Winston, 2004 IEEE president, speaking on The Technical Professional in 2010. The presentation, preceded by a reception, starts at 6PM and is followed by dinner at Higgins House. The presentation is free and open to the public, dinner requires a reservation and costs $30.00 for non-IEEE members. You can attend the presentation without going to dinner. Details can be found at http://www.ieeeregion1.org/worcester . Al ------------------------------------------------------------- Al Reinhart Phone: (508) 869-6417 DisCom. Systems EMail: Reinhart(a)DisCom.com www.DisCom.com

March 29, 2005

Cups help

by Chuck Haines

This is a question for those cups guru's out there. I'm trying to write a custom perl script for cups that does accounting. I have a database with users and quotas and I'm writing a filter for cups that checks to make sure the user has enough left on their balance before printing. I was curious how I would go about sticking this into the cups filtering chain. I've been reading up on the cups docs but I'm still kinda confused on where to put it. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com http://www.maxslack.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

March 29, 2005

Job Opening: Full-time MySQL/PostreSQL Database Administator Position

by Theo Van Dinter

Since there doesn't seem to be a wlug-jobs list, I'm posting it here. My employer, TechTarget, is looking for a full-time MySQL/PostgreSQL database administrator. Oracle experience is a plus. Below is the role description which has more information. No recruiters need contact me. If there are any questions regarding this position, please email me direct. Details on working at TechTarget can be found here: http://www.techtarget.com/html/job_opps.htm Thank you. :) Position: Database Administrator Role Definition: Manage database content and customer information driving Web-based community features. Monitor database performance and capacity, tune system for performance and administer user access, security and back up. Two years DBA experience required and Apache, Solaris, Linux experience preferred. Required Competencies: * Strong analytical, teamwork, and problem solving skills * Technical expertise in Sun Solaris UNIX, Linux, MySQL, Postgres. Oracle experience not necessary, but considered a plus. * Design of database schemas, including setting up triggers and constraints to ensure integrity, indexing and tuning. * Knowledge in myisam and innodb file structures recommended * Basic understanding of scripting languages Reports To: Director of IT Operations, Product Systems Required Experience: Must have prior responsibility for administration of MySQL, Postgres RDBMS and knowledge of installing, upgrading and optimizing databases within a sophisticated multi-tier computer network. Oracle experience a plus. Initial Mandate: - Conduct database audit, present findings and make recommendations. * Security, passwords, user accounts, auditing * Document and maintain database configuration information * Develop and implement plans for database maintenance and upgrades. * Perform detailed database configurations. * Install, configure and maintain system tools and utilities. * Perform system diagnostics and create resolutions. * Monitor and tune systems for optimal performance. * Document database schema - Plan and install on New Production Servers, sized and tuned for optimal throughput and reliability. * Develop database, objects (tablespaces, tables, indexes, views) * Build and maintain users accounts and database roles * Evaluate disk spacing and resize/add datafiles - Ensure service performance through established metrics and audits. * Implement database and recovery strategies * Serve as liaison with database vendors; report problems and obtain technical solutions * Tune database and handle day-to-day DBA activities

March 25, 2005

Free Dlink router

by Mike Leo

Standard shipping is 9-10 bux, but the router is free after mail in rebates http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=… __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

March 23, 2005

unsubscribe michael.j.mcgurl@intel.com

by Mcgurl, Michael J

Michael J. McGurl Engineering Computing NSEC Intel Massachusetts Voice: 978-553-5607 Pager: 877-406-8919 Cell: 774-230-6967 -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:00 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 15 Send Wlug mailing list submissions to wlug(a)mail.wlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Car pool... (Frank Moody) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:26:09 -0500 From: Frank Moody <fmoody-ug-wlug(a)moodman.org> Subject: [Wlug] Car pool... To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Message-ID: <20050323102609.GD63215(a)moodman.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anybody heading to the WLUG meeting tonight from the Leominster area and wouldn't mind giving me a ride? Car trouble at the last minute (of course.. Most fun that way.) Frank Moody ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug End of Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 15 ************************************

March 23, 2005

Car pool...

by Frank Moody

Anybody heading to the WLUG meeting tonight from the Leominster area and wouldn't mind giving me a ride? Car trouble at the last minute (of course.. Most fun that way.) Frank Moody

March 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: WLUG Meeting Wed March 23rd 7:00 PM

by Scott Venier

Scott Venier said: > Interested in car-pooling? Depending on what time you leave Chelmsford, > I'd be up for leaving either from there or from the Intel plant in Hudson. > Oops. Sorry everybody. That was supposed to be off-list, but I'm dumb, still. That said, I suppose if anyone else is interested in carpooling from either Chelmsford or Hudson, contact me off list. :) Scott

March 22, 2005

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: WLUG Meeting Wed March 23rd 7:00 PM

by Scott Venier

Andy Stewart said: > > We have a WLUG meeting coming up this week on Wednesday, March 23rd, at > 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room on the WPI Campus in Worcester, MA USA. > Interested in car-pooling? Depending on what time you leave Chelmsford, I'd be up for leaving either from there or from the Intel plant in Hudson. Scott

March 22, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 13

by Raja Mukherjee

Had a look at the multisync page on sourceforge. Seems like it is designed for the Gnome Environment - it says: "MultiSync is a free modular program to synchronize calendars, addressbooks and other PIM data between programs on your computer and other computers, mobile devices, PDAs or cell phones. MultiSync works on any Gnome platform, such as Linux." I prefer to use KDE - will need to do some research to see if it works with KDE. Raja Mukherjee ____________________________________________________________________ On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:15:12 -0500, Jared Greenwald <greenwaldjared(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Not that I've tried it or anything, but you might want to look into > multisync. I've been trying to use it to sync Oracle calendar with > sunbird (with minimal success, but it seems an apt application for > this situation)... > > -Jared

March 22, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 13

by Jared Greenwald

Not that I've tried it or anything, but you might want to look into multisync. I've been trying to use it to sync Oracle calendar with sunbird (with minimal success, but it seems an apt application for this situation)... -Jared On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:36:35 -0500, Raja Mukherjee <raja.mukherjee56(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for all the suggestions re. changing default email client - I > found the selectable preferences under the Gnome Control Center - > couldn't find anything equivlent in the KDE Control Center though. > > Now all I have to do is figure out how to have the kPilot memos (that > I synched from my Visor Prism) to transfer to the Notes module in > Kontact > > Raja Mukherjee > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 22, 2005

Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 13

by Raja Mukherjee

Thanks for all the suggestions re. changing default email client - I found the selectable preferences under the Gnome Control Center - couldn't find anything equivlent in the KDE Control Center though. Now all I have to do is figure out how to have the kPilot memos (that I synched from my Visor Prism) to transfer to the Notes module in Kontact Raja Mukherjee

March 21, 2005

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by Mcgurl, Michael J

Michael J. McGurl Engineering Computing NSEC Intel Massachusetts Voice: 978-553-5607 Pager: 877-406-8919 Cell: 774-230-6967 -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 12:00 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 13 Send Wlug mailing list submissions to wlug(a)mail.wlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12 (Raja Mukherjee) 2. Re: Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12 (Jared Greenwald) 3. Re: Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12 (Chuck R. Anderson) 4. REMINDER: WLUG Meeting Wed March 23rd 7:00 PM (Andy Stewart) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:23:40 -0500 From: Raja Mukherjee <raja.mukherjee56(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12 To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Message-ID: <5f4be20503201123816c98d(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On a similar note, how does one change the default mail client from Evolution to Kmail? I am using Firefox 1.0.1 as the default browser. The reason I want it to change over is because I have synced my palm to Kontact and want to use Kmail as the mail client, so I can share the contacts lis. Raja Mukherjee _________________________________________________________________ > Today's Topics: > > 1. Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird (Andrew Robert) > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:33:30 -0500 > From: Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> > Subject: [Wlug] Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <423C545A.9080000(a)townisp.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Everyone, > > Last question for awhile. > > I swear. > > Anyway, has anyone had luck configuring Opera to use an alternate mail > client than the native M2? > > I am trying to get it to call Thunderbird but I've had mixed results. > > I reviewed the Opera Support Knowledge base article located at the link > below but nothing I do seems to work. > > http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=472 > > -- > Thank you, > Andrew Robert > Systems Architect > Information Technologies > Massachusetts Financial Services > Phone: (617) 954-5882 > Pager: (781) 945-1742 > E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:38:27 -0500 From: Jared Greenwald <greenwaldjared(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12 To: Raja Mukherjee <raja.mukherjee56(a)gmail.com>, Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Message-ID: <2759cf8605032012387ab9fdce(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Those types of settings are usually part of the window manager. I thnk in KDE its in control center somewhere - or in konqueror where apps association is done. -Jared On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:23:40 -0500, Raja Mukherjee <raja.mukherjee56(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On a similar note, how does one change the default mail client from > Evolution to Kmail? I am using Firefox 1.0.1 as the default browser. > The reason I want it to change over is because I have synced my palm > to Kontact and want to use Kmail as the mail client, so I can share > the contacts lis. > > Raja Mukherjee > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird (Andrew Robert) > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:33:30 -0500 > > From: Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> > > Subject: [Wlug] Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird > > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > Message-ID: <423C545A.9080000(a)townisp.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Last question for awhile. > > > > I swear. > > > > Anyway, has anyone had luck configuring Opera to use an alternate mail > > client than the native M2? > > > > I am trying to get it to call Thunderbird but I've had mixed results. > > > > I reviewed the Opera Support Knowledge base article located at the link > > below but nothing I do seems to work. > > > > http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=472 > > > > -- > > Thank you, > > Andrew Robert > > Systems Architect > > Information Technologies > > Massachusetts Financial Services > > Phone: (617) 954-5882 > > Pager: (781) 945-1742 > > E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:46:15 -0500 From: "Chuck R. Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12 To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Message-ID: <20050321014615.GE29293(a)angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 02:23:40PM -0500, Raja Mukherjee wrote: > On a similar note, how does one change the default mail client from > Evolution to Kmail? I am using Firefox 1.0.1 as the default browser. > The reason I want it to change over is because I have synced my palm > to Kontact and want to use Kmail as the mail client, so I can share > the contacts lis. In Fedora Core 3 there is Preferences -> More Preferences -> Preferred Applications which works for Web Browser, Mail Reader, Text Editor, and Terminal. KMail is among the choices for Mail Reader. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:13:23 -0500 From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> Subject: [Wlug] REMINDER: WLUG Meeting Wed March 23rd 7:00 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Message-ID: <423E2DC3.5030507(a)comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 HI Everybody, We have a WLUG meeting coming up this week on Wednesday, March 23rd, at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room on the WPI Campus in Worcester, MA USA. At this meeting, yours truly will be giving a talk about how Linux was used to create video DVDs from files created by a TV capture card. In this talk, there will be a demo of simple video editing, creation of the DVD menu, and creation of the DVD files and directory structure. If there is time, we might be visited by Drs. Howard, Fine, and Howard. I'll have two books for the no-cost raffle. Maybe someone will come to the meeting just to try to win one of these: Building Applications with the Linux Standard Base The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System After the meeting, anybody who is intersted can join the crowd for some pizza either across campus or on Highland Street. WLUG meetings are open to the public. There are no admission fees or membership dues. We do accept small donations if you are feeling generous. :-) Soda and cookies will be provided at the meeting. See ya later, Andy (Digital signature intentionally left blank until I figure out how to get Thunderbird 1.0 to use gpg.....enigmail isn't working for me....yet) -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug End of Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 13 ************************************

March 21, 2005

REMINDER: WLUG Meeting Wed March 23rd 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, We have a WLUG meeting coming up this week on Wednesday, March 23rd, at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room on the WPI Campus in Worcester, MA USA. At this meeting, yours truly will be giving a talk about how Linux was used to create video DVDs from files created by a TV capture card. In this talk, there will be a demo of simple video editing, creation of the DVD menu, and creation of the DVD files and directory structure. If there is time, we might be visited by Drs. Howard, Fine, and Howard. I'll have two books for the no-cost raffle. Maybe someone will come to the meeting just to try to win one of these: Building Applications with the Linux Standard Base The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System After the meeting, anybody who is intersted can join the crowd for some pizza either across campus or on Highland Street. WLUG meetings are open to the public. There are no admission fees or membership dues. We do accept small donations if you are feeling generous. :-) Soda and cookies will be provided at the meeting. See ya later, Andy (Digital signature intentionally left blank until I figure out how to get Thunderbird 1.0 to use gpg.....enigmail isn't working for me....yet) -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

March 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12

by Chuck R. Anderson

On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 02:23:40PM -0500, Raja Mukherjee wrote: > On a similar note, how does one change the default mail client from > Evolution to Kmail? I am using Firefox 1.0.1 as the default browser. > The reason I want it to change over is because I have synced my palm > to Kontact and want to use Kmail as the mail client, so I can share > the contacts lis. In Fedora Core 3 there is Preferences -> More Preferences -> Preferred Applications which works for Web Browser, Mail Reader, Text Editor, and Terminal. KMail is among the choices for Mail Reader.

March 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12

by Jared Greenwald

Those types of settings are usually part of the window manager. I thnk in KDE its in control center somewhere - or in konqueror where apps association is done. -Jared On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:23:40 -0500, Raja Mukherjee <raja.mukherjee56(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On a similar note, how does one change the default mail client from > Evolution to Kmail? I am using Firefox 1.0.1 as the default browser. > The reason I want it to change over is because I have synced my palm > to Kontact and want to use Kmail as the mail client, so I can share > the contacts lis. > > Raja Mukherjee > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird (Andrew Robert) > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:33:30 -0500 > > From: Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> > > Subject: [Wlug] Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird > > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > Message-ID: <423C545A.9080000(a)townisp.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Last question for awhile. > > > > I swear. > > > > Anyway, has anyone had luck configuring Opera to use an alternate mail > > client than the native M2? > > > > I am trying to get it to call Thunderbird but I've had mixed results. > > > > I reviewed the Opera Support Knowledge base article located at the link > > below but nothing I do seems to work. > > > > http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=472 > > > > -- > > Thank you, > > Andrew Robert > > Systems Architect > > Information Technologies > > Massachusetts Financial Services > > Phone: (617) 954-5882 > > Pager: (781) 945-1742 > > E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 20, 2005

Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12

by Raja Mukherjee

On a similar note, how does one change the default mail client from Evolution to Kmail? I am using Firefox 1.0.1 as the default browser. The reason I want it to change over is because I have synced my palm to Kontact and want to use Kmail as the mail client, so I can share the contacts lis. Raja Mukherjee _________________________________________________________________ > Today's Topics: > > 1. Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird (Andrew Robert) > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:33:30 -0500 > From: Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> > Subject: [Wlug] Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <423C545A.9080000(a)townisp.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Everyone, > > Last question for awhile. > > I swear. > > Anyway, has anyone had luck configuring Opera to use an alternate mail > client than the native M2? > > I am trying to get it to call Thunderbird but I've had mixed results. > > I reviewed the Opera Support Knowledge base article located at the link > below but nothing I do seems to work. > > http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=472 > > -- > Thank you, > Andrew Robert > Systems Architect > Information Technologies > Massachusetts Financial Services > Phone: (617) 954-5882 > Pager: (781) 945-1742 > E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com

March 20, 2005

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by glim＠mycybernet.net

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March 20, 2005

Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird

by Andrew Robert

Hi Everyone, Last question for awhile. I swear. Anyway, has anyone had luck configuring Opera to use an alternate mail client than the native M2? I am trying to get it to call Thunderbird but I've had mixed results. I reviewed the Opera Support Knowledge base article located at the link below but nothing I do seems to work. http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=472 -- Thank you, Andrew Robert Systems Architect Information Technologies Massachusetts Financial Services Phone: (617) 954-5882 Pager: (781) 945-1742 E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com

March 19, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Looking Glass on Fedora Core 3

by Andrew Robert

A very good point. I have the live cd and will give it a try. Thanks rewster(a)rewster.org wrote: > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005, Andrew Robert wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I 'm contemplating installing the new Sun Looking Glass 3D desktop on >> Fedora Core 3. >> >> Has anyone had any experience doing this? >> >> The instructions located at >> https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/lg3d-getting-started.html seem pretty >> straight forward but I was wondering if there were any gotcha's. >> >> Likewise, does anyone know of a repository with RPM's for this to >> make my life easier? >> >> Any information you might have on this would be welcome. >> > > It's my understanding that LG3D, as it is right now, is more of a > "proof-of-concept" than a full, working desktop, maybe that's changed > since the last time I looked. With that in mind, there was news a while > back of a liveCD that had LG3D installed on it, never got the change to > DL it since it was slashdotted... the site if you're interested in that > is: http://lg3d-livecd.dev.java.net/ > > It looks like their DL links are still down, maybe you could find > someone who has the iso. Might be worth looking into before going > through the trouble of building it... > -- Thank you, Andrew Robert Systems Architect Information Technologies - OpenVMS Massachusetts Financial Services Phone: (617) 954-5882 Pager: (781) 945-1742 E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com

March 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Looking Glass on Fedora Core 3

by rewster＠rewster.org

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005, Andrew Robert wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I 'm contemplating installing the new Sun Looking Glass 3D desktop on Fedora > Core 3. > > Has anyone had any experience doing this? > > The instructions located at > https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/lg3d-getting-started.html seem pretty straight > forward but I was wondering if there were any gotcha's. > > Likewise, does anyone know of a repository with RPM's for this to make my > life easier? > > Any information you might have on this would be welcome. > It's my understanding that LG3D, as it is right now, is more of a "proof-of-concept" than a full, working desktop, maybe that's changed since the last time I looked. With that in mind, there was news a while back of a liveCD that had LG3D installed on it, never got the change to DL it since it was slashdotted... the site if you're interested in that is: http://lg3d-livecd.dev.java.net/ It looks like their DL links are still down, maybe you could find someone who has the iso. Might be worth looking into before going through the trouble of building it... -- JP LaFleur rewster(a)rewster.org

March 18, 2005

Looking Glass on Fedora Core 3

by Andrew Robert

Hi everyone, I 'm contemplating installing the new Sun Looking Glass 3D desktop on Fedora Core 3. Has anyone had any experience doing this? The instructions located at https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/lg3d-getting-started.html seem pretty straight forward but I was wondering if there were any gotcha's. Likewise, does anyone know of a repository with RPM's for this to make my life easier? Any information you might have on this would be welcome. -- Thank you, Andrew Robert Systems Architect Information Technologies Massachusetts Financial Services Phone: (617) 954-5882 Pager: (781) 945-1742 E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com

March 18, 2005

Re: SuSE 9.1 YaST2 online_update problem

by Tom Misilo

You can only upgrade SLES9 if you have the upgrade key from SuSE Themselves I recommend downloading SUSE 9.2 DVD or FTP install if this is only for a personal use OS ~Tom "Hi All, I just installed the SuSE SLES 9 (kernel 2.6.5-7.97). I can't get the 'YOU' utility to work. A box pops up asking for a username/password pair. I have this set up to run automatically every day at 5:00AM, but it fails with an error message "Unable to check for updates". If I run the YOU GUI by hand, a box pops up asking for authentication data (a username and password). During the installation of the O/S, it actually ran YOU successfully and downloaded some updates. I've looked at the /etc/sysconfig/onlineupdate file and I can't see anything obviously wrong. There is a password file in /var/lib/YaST2/you. I've tried using the root password, my personal password, but nothing works. What am I overlooking? Thanks, -Chuck" -- Tom Misilo AIM:Tmisilo FL MSN:tmisilo@gmail.com Jabber:tmisilo@jabber.org Skype: tmisilo

March 18, 2005

desklets-daemon will not run - FIXED!

by Ken Jones

I found the answer to my problem in <http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26681&page=4> All I needed to do was to "yum install gnome-python2-gnomevfs.i386" It took a while, but that's alright:-) Thanks everyone. Ken Jones

March 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re: Unsuccessfull installation of gDesklets...

by Andrew Robert

Go to the DAG repository and you can pull it down via yum or apt depending on how you configure yourself. Jared Greenwald wrote: >Have you configured yum at all? I think the http://fedorafaq.org >wesite has a good yum.conf file that you can just apply to your >system. I was able to find many packages through yum with this >config. There is also a way to install apt on redhat/fedora, which >adds the deps checking automatically. We use this setup on our redhat >el as 3 desktops at work for those that don't really want to track >down all of those deps. > >-Jared > >On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:43:53 -0500, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > > >>Before my plea could be published on the WLUG list Jared Greenwald >>suggested that I look harder for a RPM version of gDesklets. I found >>one in http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/packages.php >> >>It worked! >> >>Thanks everyone just for being there. >> >>Ken Jones >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- Thank you, Andrew Robert Systems Architect Information Technologies - OpenVMS Massachusetts Financial Services Phone: (617) 954-5882 Pager: (781) 945-1742 E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com

March 17, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re: Unsuccessfull installation of gDesklets...

by Jared Greenwald

Have you configured yum at all? I think the http://fedorafaq.org wesite has a good yum.conf file that you can just apply to your system. I was able to find many packages through yum with this config. There is also a way to install apt on redhat/fedora, which adds the deps checking automatically. We use this setup on our redhat el as 3 desktops at work for those that don't really want to track down all of those deps. -Jared On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:43:53 -0500, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Before my plea could be published on the WLUG list Jared Greenwald > suggested that I look harder for a RPM version of gDesklets. I found > one in http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/packages.php > > It worked! > > Thanks everyone just for being there. > > Ken Jones > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 17, 2005

Re: Unsuccessfull installation of gDesklets...

by Ken Jones

Before my plea could be published on the WLUG list Jared Greenwald suggested that I look harder for a RPM version of gDesklets. I found one in http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/packages.php It worked! Thanks everyone just for being there. Ken Jones

March 17, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Unsuccessful installation of gDesklets

by Jared Greenwald

Question? Did you search yum for gdesklets? On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:49:36 -0500, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > You've piqued my interest in gDesklets. I am trying to install it with > no success. I am running Fedora Core 3. The README warns me not to > attempt to compile this package, but it offers me no alternative. > > I downloaded, unzipped and tar'd gDesklets-0.34.2.tar.bz2. I ran the > configure file. It failed for lack of pygtk-2.0. (see below) I > downloaded, unzipped and tar'd > pygtk-2.4.1.tar.bz2. This successfully compiled and installed. > > I even helped by modifying and exporting environmental PKG_CONFIG_PATH > But still gDesklets did not. Any ideas? > > -----snip of command [kjones@kjones-fedora gDesklets-0.34.2]$ ./configure > . > . > checking for pygtk-2.0 >= 2.4.0 pyorbit-2 >= 2.0.1 gnome-python-2.0 >= > 2.6.0... Package pygtk-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `pygtk-2.0.pc' > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > No package 'pygtk-2.0' found > > configure: error: Library requirements (pygtk-2.0 >= 2.4.0 pyorbit-2 >= > 2.0.1 gnome-python-2.0 >= 2.6.0) not met; consider adjusting the > PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a > nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. > > --------------------- > I successfully installed pgytk-2.4.1. Here is the last step: > [root@kjones-fedora pygtk-2.4.1]# make install > Making install in codegen > . > . > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. > make[2]: Leaving directory > `/home/kjones/downloads/FedoraCore3/pygtk-2.4.1/tests' > make[1]: Leaving directory > `/home/kjones/downloads/FedoraCore3/pygtk-2.4.1/tests' > [root@kjones-fedora pygtk-2.4.1]# > > I set PKG_CONFIG_PATH as suggested. > > [kjones@kjones-fedora pygtk]$ ls $PKG_CONFIG_PATH > pygtk-2.0 > [kjones@kjones-fedora pygtk]$ echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH > /usr/bin/include > [kjones@kjones-fedora pygtk]$ > > Still no good. What do you think? > > Ken Jones > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 17, 2005

Unsuccessful installation of gDesklets

by Ken Jones

You've piqued my interest in gDesklets. I am trying to install it with no success. I am running Fedora Core 3. The README warns me not to attempt to compile this package, but it offers me no alternative. I downloaded, unzipped and tar'd gDesklets-0.34.2.tar.bz2. I ran the configure file. It failed for lack of pygtk-2.0. (see below) I downloaded, unzipped and tar'd pygtk-2.4.1.tar.bz2. This successfully compiled and installed. I even helped by modifying and exporting environmental PKG_CONFIG_PATH But still gDesklets did not. Any ideas? -----snip of command [kjones@kjones-fedora gDesklets-0.34.2]$ ./configure . . checking for pygtk-2.0 >= 2.4.0 pyorbit-2 >= 2.0.1 gnome-python-2.0 >= 2.6.0... Package pygtk-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `pygtk-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'pygtk-2.0' found configure: error: Library requirements (pygtk-2.0 >= 2.4.0 pyorbit-2 >= 2.0.1 gnome-python-2.0 >= 2.6.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. --------------------- I successfully installed pgytk-2.4.1. Here is the last step: [root@kjones-fedora pygtk-2.4.1]# make install Making install in codegen . . make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kjones/downloads/FedoraCore3/pygtk-2.4.1/tests' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kjones/downloads/FedoraCore3/pygtk-2.4.1/tests' [root@kjones-fedora pygtk-2.4.1]# I set PKG_CONFIG_PATH as suggested. [kjones@kjones-fedora pygtk]$ ls $PKG_CONFIG_PATH pygtk-2.0 [kjones@kjones-fedora pygtk]$ echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH /usr/bin/include [kjones@kjones-fedora pygtk]$ Still no good. What do you think? Ken Jones

March 17, 2005

SuSE 9.1 YaST2 online_update problem

by Chuck Noyes

Hi All, I just installed the SuSE SLES 9 (kernel 2.6.5-7.97). I can't get the 'YOU' utility to work. A box pops up asking for a username/password pair. I have this set up to run automatically every day at 5:00AM, but it fails with an error message "Unable to check for updates". If I run the YOU GUI by hand, a box pops up asking for authentication data (a username and password). During the installation of the O/S, it actually ran YOU successfully and downloaded some updates. I've looked at the /etc/sysconfig/onlineupdate file and I can't see anything obviously wrong. There is a password file in /var/lib/YaST2/you. I've tried using the root password, my personal password, but nothing works. What am I overlooking? Thanks, -Chuck

March 17, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Fetchmail

by Dennis Payne

> Surely you log in as just "foobar", no? > You have to have gotten through the domain name system > and be connected to a definite port on a definite IP > address before you even get the login prompt. I agree it should just be "foobar" but that doesn't work. All the instructions say to use the foobar(a)domain.com. Since they didn't ask me when designing the system, I have to live with what I got. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

March 17, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Problem starting gdesklets on login

by Andrew Robert

Hi Jared, That did it. Thanks for the help. Much appreciated. Jared Greenwald wrote: >yea, gnome-session-properties > > >On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:28:56 -0500, Eric 'Freak4u' Martin ><freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>There's some setting that will exec programs on startup under gnome. >>It's in gnome, under sessions I think...I'm installing gnome right now >>so I can find it exactly. >> >> >>On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:50:54 -0500, Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> wrote: >> >> >>>I am using gnome under FC3. >>> >>>Jared Greenwald wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>You using kde or gnome? >>>> >>>>On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:50:00 -0500, Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Good morning everyone, >>>>> >>>>>I recently installed gdesklets on FC3 and it works fine except it does >>>>>not start automatically on login. >>>>> >>>>>I've tried saving the gnome session but the gdesklets are not captured. >>>>> >>>>>I've also tried automatinng the start by adding the call to my >>>>>.bash_profile file but that doesn't do the trick either. >>>>> >>>>>Does anyone know how to overcome this issue? >>>>> >>>>>Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Thank you, >>>>>Andrew Robert >>>>>Systems Architect >>>>>Information Technologies - OpenVMS >>>>>Massachusetts Financial Services >>>>>Phone: (617) 954-5882 >>>>>Pager: (781) 945-1742 >>>>>E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Wlug mailing list >>>>>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>>>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Wlug mailing list >>>>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>Thank you, >>>Andrew Robert >>>Systems Architect >>>Information Technologies - OpenVMS >>>Massachusetts Financial Services >>>Phone: (617) 954-5882 >>>Pager: (781) 945-1742 >>>E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Wlug mailing list >>>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- Thank you, Andrew Robert Systems Architect Information Technologies - OpenVMS Massachusetts Financial Services Phone: (617) 954-5882 Pager: (781) 945-1742 E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com

March 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Problem starting gdesklets on login

by Jared Greenwald

yea, gnome-session-properties On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:28:56 -0500, Eric 'Freak4u' Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > There's some setting that will exec programs on startup under gnome. > It's in gnome, under sessions I think...I'm installing gnome right now > so I can find it exactly. > > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:50:54 -0500, Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> wrote: > > I am using gnome under FC3. > > > > Jared Greenwald wrote: > > > > >You using kde or gnome? > > > > > >On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:50:00 -0500, Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Good morning everyone, > > >> > > >>I recently installed gdesklets on FC3 and it works fine except it does > > >>not start automatically on login. > > >> > > >>I've tried saving the gnome session but the gdesklets are not captured. > > >> > > >>I've also tried automatinng the start by adding the call to my > > >>.bash_profile file but that doesn't do the trick either. > > >> > > >>Does anyone know how to overcome this issue? > > >> > > >>Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. > > >> > > >>-- > > >>Thank you, > > >>Andrew Robert > > >>Systems Architect > > >>Information Technologies - OpenVMS > > >>Massachusetts Financial Services > > >>Phone: (617) 954-5882 > > >>Pager: (781) 945-1742 > > >>E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Wlug mailing list > > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Wlug mailing list > > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thank you, > > Andrew Robert > > Systems Architect > > Information Technologies - OpenVMS > > Massachusetts Financial Services > > Phone: (617) 954-5882 > > Pager: (781) 945-1742 > > E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Problem starting gdesklets on login

by Eric 'Freak4u' Martin

There's some setting that will exec programs on startup under gnome. It's in gnome, under sessions I think...I'm installing gnome right now so I can find it exactly. On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:50:54 -0500, Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> wrote: > I am using gnome under FC3. > > Jared Greenwald wrote: > > >You using kde or gnome? > > > >On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:50:00 -0500, Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> wrote: > > > > > >>Good morning everyone, > >> > >>I recently installed gdesklets on FC3 and it works fine except it does > >>not start automatically on login. > >> > >>I've tried saving the gnome session but the gdesklets are not captured. > >> > >>I've also tried automatinng the start by adding the call to my > >>.bash_profile file but that doesn't do the trick either. > >> > >>Does anyone know how to overcome this issue? > >> > >>Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. > >> > >>-- > >>Thank you, > >>Andrew Robert > >>Systems Architect > >>Information Technologies - OpenVMS > >>Massachusetts Financial Services > >>Phone: (617) 954-5882 > >>Pager: (781) 945-1742 > >>E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Wlug mailing list > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > -- > Thank you, > Andrew Robert > Systems Architect > Information Technologies - OpenVMS > Massachusetts Financial Services > Phone: (617) 954-5882 > Pager: (781) 945-1742 > E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Problem starting gdesklets on login

by Andrew Robert

I am using gnome under FC3. Jared Greenwald wrote: >You using kde or gnome? > >On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:50:00 -0500, Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> wrote: > > >>Good morning everyone, >> >>I recently installed gdesklets on FC3 and it works fine except it does >>not start automatically on login. >> >>I've tried saving the gnome session but the gdesklets are not captured. >> >>I've also tried automatinng the start by adding the call to my >>.bash_profile file but that doesn't do the trick either. >> >>Does anyone know how to overcome this issue? >> >>Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. >> >>-- >>Thank you, >>Andrew Robert >>Systems Architect >>Information Technologies - OpenVMS >>Massachusetts Financial Services >>Phone: (617) 954-5882 >>Pager: (781) 945-1742 >>E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- Thank you, Andrew Robert Systems Architect Information Technologies - OpenVMS Massachusetts Financial Services Phone: (617) 954-5882 Pager: (781) 945-1742 E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com

March 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Problem starting gdesklets on login

by Jared Greenwald

You using kde or gnome? On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:50:00 -0500, Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> wrote: > Good morning everyone, > > I recently installed gdesklets on FC3 and it works fine except it does > not start automatically on login. > > I've tried saving the gnome session but the gdesklets are not captured. > > I've also tried automatinng the start by adding the call to my > .bash_profile file but that doesn't do the trick either. > > Does anyone know how to overcome this issue? > > Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. > > -- > Thank you, > Andrew Robert > Systems Architect > Information Technologies - OpenVMS > Massachusetts Financial Services > Phone: (617) 954-5882 > Pager: (781) 945-1742 > E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 16, 2005

Problem starting gdesklets on login

by Andrew Robert

Good morning everyone, I recently installed gdesklets on FC3 and it works fine except it does not start automatically on login. I've tried saving the gnome session but the gdesklets are not captured. I've also tried automatinng the start by adding the call to my .bash_profile file but that doesn't do the trick either. Does anyone know how to overcome this issue? Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. -- Thank you, Andrew Robert Systems Architect Information Technologies - OpenVMS Massachusetts Financial Services Phone: (617) 954-5882 Pager: (781) 945-1742 E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com

March 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Fetchmail

by John Stoffel

>> fetchmail -c -v -u foobar(a)domain.com mail.domain.com Dennis> I did try that without the -v and got this for the password prompt: Dennis> Enter password for foobar@domain.com@mail.domain.com: This is possibly a fetchmail thing, I'd check to make sure you're running the latest version. Dennis> I assumed that the reason it failed was that it was sending Dennis> that as the user name. Turns out that ther verbose Dennis> information shows that it is sending the appropriate Dennis> information despite what the prompt shows. It also now Dennis> succeeds so I must need to wait a little bit after creating Dennis> the email account through the web administration. The verbose option is the key when using fetchmail. It's a great tool which works wonders, but can be a pain to get going right sometimes. Of course, that's all the various protocols fault, not fetchmails. John

March 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Fetchmail

by Keith Wright

> From: Dennis Payne <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> > > Nope. I'm not talking about one account that collects a > bunch of emails and dropping them in the appropriate > mailbox. > > The POP3 server is mail.domain.com. The login account is > foobar(a)domain.com. Surely you log in as just "foobar", no? You have to have gotten through the domain name system and be connected to a definite port on a definite IP address before you even get the login prompt. > Fetchmail allows you to specify the > username of foobar to which it adds @mail.domain.com. > This fails because the login account doesn't include > "mail.". (Or at least that is my read of the document > they provide for grabbing the email.) > > So I want to stop or change what it adds to the username. I don't know why it would add anything. The POP server knows who you are because you tell it USER <name>. The RFC (rfc 1939) doesn't say much about how you spell your name, but in my experience it's just the part before the "@". If the server has mail for you, it should give it to you, no matter what the name or alias of the machine that accepted it from the SMTP server. To get mail for me (kwright on this machine) from mail.speakeasy.net (kawright on that machine, which belongs to the ISP), I put the following in .fetchmailrc. It does not matter if that mail came to me via speakeasy.net or an alias like free-comp-shop.com. skip spk via mail.speakeasy.net protocol pop3 username "kawright" password "****", is "kwright" here limit 20000 The "skip" means it is not automatic, I have to ask for it by name. I do this because I have accounts on more than one machine and like to control which one I fetch from. Thus: /usr/bin/fetchmail -v gis spk -- Keith

March 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Fetchmail

by Dennis Payne

> fetchmail -c -v -u foobar(a)domain.com mail.domain.com I did try that without the -v and got this for the password prompt: Enter password for foobar@domain.com@mail.domain.com: I assumed that the reason it failed was that it was sending that as the user name. Turns out that ther verbose information shows that it is sending the appropriate information despite what the prompt shows. It also now succeeds so I must need to wait a little bit after creating the email account through the web administration. Thanks for the help. (Should have checked for a verbose option myself.) Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

March 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Fetchmail

by Dennis Payne

Nope. I'm not talking about one account that collects a bunch of emails and dropping them in the appropriate mailbox. The POP3 server is mail.domain.com. The login account is foobar(a)domain.com. Fetchmail allows you to specify the username of foobar to which it adds @mail.domain.com. This fails because the login account doesn't include "mail.". (Or at least that is my read of the document they provide for grabbing the email.) So I want to stop or change what it adds to the username. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

March 15, 2005

Fetchmail

by Dennis Payne

Such a simple question yet I can't seem to find an answer. I'm trying to use fetchmail to retrieve from a POP3 account. The POP3 server includes mail in the server name (mail.domain.com) The email accounts do not include mail. Unfortunately fetchmail seems to take the supplied username and add the mail server name. So I get foobar(a)mail.domain.com instead of foobar(a)domain.com. (Or foobar@domain.com@mail.domain.com if I try to specify the server name.) Is there an option I need to specify (or maybe upgrade fetchmail)? Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

March 15, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Fetchmail

by John Stoffel

Dennis> Nope. I'm not talking about one account that collects a bunch Dennis> of emails and dropping them in the appropriate mailbox. Ok, that's clearer. It would still help if you could show us your existing .fetchmailrc file... Dennis> The POP3 server is mail.domain.com. The login account is Dennis> foobar(a)domain.com. Fetchmail allows you to specify the Dennis> username of foobar to which it adds @mail.domain.com. This Dennis> fails because the login account doesn't include "mail.". (Or Dennis> at least that is my read of the document they provide for Dennis> grabbing the email.) Ok, here's what I would try: fetchmail -c -v -u foobar(a)domain.com mail.domain.com and see what happens. You could also put the following in our .fetchmailrc file: poll mail.domain.com protocol pop3 username "foobar(a)domain.com" \ password "secret1" All on one line. Then do: fetchmail -v -c and see what happens. Sending us the logs would be helpful. Sanitize them of course, but at least let us see how the protocol negotiation goes, otherwise we're not going to be able to help you. John

March 15, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Fetchmail

by John Stoffel

Dennis> Such a simple question yet I can't seem to find an answer. Dennis> I'm trying to use fetchmail to retrieve from a POP3 account. Ok, that's certainly doable. Dennis> The POP3 server includes mail in the server name Dennis> (mail.domain.com) The email accounts do not include mail. What do you mean here? Can you post your .fetchmailrc file so we can look at it? And some logs from when you try to run it? As I read it above, the POP3 server's hostname is 'mail.domain.com'. Email is sent to 'user(a)domain.com', with all email for user1, user2, etc, going to one emailbox on the POP3 server, correct? Dennis> Unfortunately fetchmail seems to take the supplied username Dennis> and add the mail server name. So I get foobar(a)mail.domain.com Dennis> instead of foobar(a)domain.com. (Or Dennis> foobar@domain.com@mail.domain.com if I try to specify the Dennis> server name.) Is there an option I need to specify (or maybe Dennis> upgrade fetchmail)? I assume what you're trying to do here is download all the email from the POP3 server and then split it up to the local different users? Have you read the section in the fetchmail man page on "The Use and Abuse of Multidrop Mailboxes"? I *htink* this is what you're asking for help with, but it's not clear to me what you are really asking for. John

March 15, 2005

Intel's HyperTransport

by Gary Hanley

For any of you open-source types that dabble in hardware... So some interesting news is making the rounds today. It seems Intel is developing a competing standard to the tried-n-true open-standard called Hypertransport, which they never liked because they did not create it. Here's the story: http://www.penstarsys.com/#intel_ht Can anyone think of a reason why one should support this disruptive beast by purchasing PCs based on their chips? (Please excuse the partisan rant. I'm an AMD fanboy who hates all things Intel...and news like this is exactly why.) -- Gary

March 11, 2005

Re: [Wlug] i686 gcc on fedora or rhel4

by Jared Greenwald

I would think that Chuck Anderson's approach would work then. Though you might actually be able to get away with creating a link to the i386 called i686... Just a theory. -Jared On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:18:37 -0500, Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> wrote: > But distcc is the one trying to call i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. That's > where this problem came in the first place. So unless you can tell me > how to change it from calling i686 to just calling gcc, I think I'll > try the shell scripts. > > Chuck > > On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 10:47:51 -0500, The Freak <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > distcc knows enough to compile that stuff correctly. check out the > > distcc guide on gentoo's website. For all of you that don't use > > gentoo, all of there guides are great reading anyway. Seeing as > > gentoo is a source distro, most of the knowlege on the forums and > > guides applies to linux in general, not just their flavor. I had > > distcc running on a few i686's, an i586, a sparc64 and a powerpc. the > > x86s worked fine together, the powerpc and sparc might have had a few > > problems working with the group every now and again but it generally > > all worked. > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:39:40 -0500, Chuck R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 09:05:56AM -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: > > > > trying to run distcc instead of it doing the gcc -march=i686, it wants > > > > to call the i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. Now this is a problem because the > > > > RHEL machines only have i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. This is the real > > > > problem I'm running in to. Does anyone know how to make distcc use > > > > gcc -march instead of trying to use the i686? > > > > > > Just create a shell script called i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc that calls > > > /usr/bin/gcc with -march=i686 ? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- > Chuck Haines > chaines(a)gmail.com > http://www.maxslack.com > ------------------------------------------- > Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity > TKE-ZM Web Coordinator > ECE Systems Administrator > ------------------------------------------- > AIM: CyberGrex > YIM: CyberGrex_27 > ICQ: 3707881 > ------------------------------------------- > GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 > GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] i686 gcc on fedora or rhel4

by J Schonberg

You may find it easier to just create a symbolic link so that i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc points to the compiler you currently have installed. A script could work too but then you have to make sure that any options used on the command line are passed through the script. A symbolic link may be easier. Jason. --- Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> wrote: > But distcc is the one trying to call i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. That's > where this problem came in the first place. So unless you can tell > me > how to change it from calling i686 to just calling gcc, I think > I'll > try the shell scripts. > > Chuck > __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/

March 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] i686 gcc on fedora or rhel4

by Chuck Haines

But distcc is the one trying to call i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. That's where this problem came in the first place. So unless you can tell me how to change it from calling i686 to just calling gcc, I think I'll try the shell scripts. Chuck On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 10:47:51 -0500, The Freak <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > distcc knows enough to compile that stuff correctly. check out the > distcc guide on gentoo's website. For all of you that don't use > gentoo, all of there guides are great reading anyway. Seeing as > gentoo is a source distro, most of the knowlege on the forums and > guides applies to linux in general, not just their flavor. I had > distcc running on a few i686's, an i586, a sparc64 and a powerpc. the > x86s worked fine together, the powerpc and sparc might have had a few > problems working with the group every now and again but it generally > all worked. > > > On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:39:40 -0500, Chuck R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 09:05:56AM -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: > > > trying to run distcc instead of it doing the gcc -march=i686, it wants > > > to call the i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. Now this is a problem because the > > > RHEL machines only have i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. This is the real > > > problem I'm running in to. Does anyone know how to make distcc use > > > gcc -march instead of trying to use the i686? > > > > Just create a shell script called i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc that calls > > /usr/bin/gcc with -march=i686 ? > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com http://www.maxslack.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

March 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] i686 gcc on fedora or rhel4

by The Freak

distcc knows enough to compile that stuff correctly. check out the distcc guide on gentoo's website. For all of you that don't use gentoo, all of there guides are great reading anyway. Seeing as gentoo is a source distro, most of the knowlege on the forums and guides applies to linux in general, not just their flavor. I had distcc running on a few i686's, an i586, a sparc64 and a powerpc. the x86s worked fine together, the powerpc and sparc might have had a few problems working with the group every now and again but it generally all worked. On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:39:40 -0500, Chuck R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 09:05:56AM -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: > > trying to run distcc instead of it doing the gcc -march=i686, it wants > > to call the i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. Now this is a problem because the > > RHEL machines only have i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. This is the real > > problem I'm running in to. Does anyone know how to make distcc use > > gcc -march instead of trying to use the i686? > > Just create a shell script called i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc that calls > /usr/bin/gcc with -march=i686 ? > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] i686 gcc on fedora or rhel4

by Chuck R. Anderson

On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 09:05:56AM -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: > trying to run distcc instead of it doing the gcc -march=i686, it wants > to call the i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. Now this is a problem because the > RHEL machines only have i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. This is the real > problem I'm running in to. Does anyone know how to make distcc use > gcc -march instead of trying to use the i686? Just create a shell script called i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc that calls /usr/bin/gcc with -march=i686 ?

March 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] i686 gcc on fedora or rhel4

by Jared Greenwald

I would think that shouldn't matter. Its like having an "ls" command built with march=i386 as opposed to i686. It should work the same - its just optimized to _run_ on one arch or the other. -Jared On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:05:56 -0500, Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Ok, BTW, I am using gentoo that's why I want to get distcc set up. > However the servers I have access to are running RHEL3 and 4. Now my > question for anyone who know's distcc is that for some reason when > trying to run distcc instead of it doing the gcc -march=i686, it wants > to call the i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. Now this is a problem because the > RHEL machines only have i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. This is the real > problem I'm running in to. Does anyone know how to make distcc use > gcc -march instead of trying to use the i686? > > Thanks, > Chuck > > On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:32:29 -0500, Chuck R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 11:55:00PM -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: > > > Does anyone know if I can get binaries so I can compile for i686 on > > > fedora and / or rhel4. I'm trying to set up distcc, but I need i686 > > > in order for it to work. The machines are more than compatible and I > > > don't know what redhat hasn't finally switched over. I'm not sure I > > > know of a single i386 machine still in use. > > > > You don't need a different compiler. The Fedora compiler is perfectly > > capable of compiling the extra instructions in the i686 instruction > > set. Here is what stock i386.rpm Fedora packages are compiled with: > > > > -O2 -g -pipe -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=pentium4 > > > > The important bit is how the packages are tuned for pentium4 > > scheduling, since the P4 is so picky with instruction ordering (athlon > > couldn't care less, so these tunings matter less there). > > > > The few packages where using the extra i686 instructions actually > > makes sense and doesn't slow things down are already compiled that > > way: kernel, openssl, glibc. > > > > Other packages are .i386.rpm, but do runtime detection to enable or > > disable support for extra instructions, like MMX/SSE. mplayer comes > > to mind. In fact, the i686 kernels do runtime athlon optimizations, > > eliminating the need for a separately compiled athlon kernel. > > > > Don't get hung up on the .i386.rpm package naming. The RPM arch has > > little to do with reality these days, and there is talk about > > replacing it with cpu flag metadata anyway. Fedora/Red Hat hasn't run > > on actual i386 processors since NPTL, AFAIK. Hence, there was little > > perceived need or desire to change all of Fedora's RPM %{arch} tags > > just to provide a slightly different illusion of > > compatibility/optimization than we already have. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- > Chuck Haines > chaines(a)gmail.com > http://www.maxslack.com > ------------------------------------------- > Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity > TKE-ZM Web Coordinator > ECE Systems Administrator > ------------------------------------------- > AIM: CyberGrex > YIM: CyberGrex_27 > ICQ: 3707881 > ------------------------------------------- > GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 > GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] i686 gcc on fedora or rhel4

by Chuck Haines

Ok, BTW, I am using gentoo that's why I want to get distcc set up. However the servers I have access to are running RHEL3 and 4. Now my question for anyone who know's distcc is that for some reason when trying to run distcc instead of it doing the gcc -march=i686, it wants to call the i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. Now this is a problem because the RHEL machines only have i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. This is the real problem I'm running in to. Does anyone know how to make distcc use gcc -march instead of trying to use the i686? Thanks, Chuck On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:32:29 -0500, Chuck R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 11:55:00PM -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: > > Does anyone know if I can get binaries so I can compile for i686 on > > fedora and / or rhel4. I'm trying to set up distcc, but I need i686 > > in order for it to work. The machines are more than compatible and I > > don't know what redhat hasn't finally switched over. I'm not sure I > > know of a single i386 machine still in use. > > You don't need a different compiler. The Fedora compiler is perfectly > capable of compiling the extra instructions in the i686 instruction > set. Here is what stock i386.rpm Fedora packages are compiled with: > > -O2 -g -pipe -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=pentium4 > > The important bit is how the packages are tuned for pentium4 > scheduling, since the P4 is so picky with instruction ordering (athlon > couldn't care less, so these tunings matter less there). > > The few packages where using the extra i686 instructions actually > makes sense and doesn't slow things down are already compiled that > way: kernel, openssl, glibc. > > Other packages are .i386.rpm, but do runtime detection to enable or > disable support for extra instructions, like MMX/SSE. mplayer comes > to mind. In fact, the i686 kernels do runtime athlon optimizations, > eliminating the need for a separately compiled athlon kernel. > > Don't get hung up on the .i386.rpm package naming. The RPM arch has > little to do with reality these days, and there is talk about > replacing it with cpu flag metadata anyway. Fedora/Red Hat hasn't run > on actual i386 processors since NPTL, AFAIK. Hence, there was little > perceived need or desire to change all of Fedora's RPM %{arch} tags > just to provide a slightly different illusion of > compatibility/optimization than we already have. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com http://www.maxslack.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

March 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] i686 gcc on fedora or rhel4

by Chuck R. Anderson

On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 11:55:00PM -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: > Does anyone know if I can get binaries so I can compile for i686 on > fedora and / or rhel4. I'm trying to set up distcc, but I need i686 > in order for it to work. The machines are more than compatible and I > don't know what redhat hasn't finally switched over. I'm not sure I > know of a single i386 machine still in use. You don't need a different compiler. The Fedora compiler is perfectly capable of compiling the extra instructions in the i686 instruction set. Here is what stock i386.rpm Fedora packages are compiled with: -O2 -g -pipe -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=pentium4 The important bit is how the packages are tuned for pentium4 scheduling, since the P4 is so picky with instruction ordering (athlon couldn't care less, so these tunings matter less there). The few packages where using the extra i686 instructions actually makes sense and doesn't slow things down are already compiled that way: kernel, openssl, glibc. Other packages are .i386.rpm, but do runtime detection to enable or disable support for extra instructions, like MMX/SSE. mplayer comes to mind. In fact, the i686 kernels do runtime athlon optimizations, eliminating the need for a separately compiled athlon kernel. Don't get hung up on the .i386.rpm package naming. The RPM arch has little to do with reality these days, and there is talk about replacing it with cpu flag metadata anyway. Fedora/Red Hat hasn't run on actual i386 processors since NPTL, AFAIK. Hence, there was little perceived need or desire to change all of Fedora's RPM %{arch} tags just to provide a slightly different illusion of compatibility/optimization than we already have.

March 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] i686 gcc on fedora or rhel4

by Jared Greenwald

You could always switch to Gentoo. Building from stage1 you have to specify the CHOST as well as make options for your processor (march=, mcp=, etc...). -Jared On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 22:17:48 -0800 (PST), J Schonber <schonm(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Chuck, > > I moved to Linux Mandrake long ago becuase they made an effort at > i586. I have no idea why Redhat/Fedora continues with i386 but I > don't want to start a flame war here. > > If you need a compiler (i.e. you currently have none) get an RPM for > fedora. You can get one from rpmfind.net. It's possible that you > can find a i686 RPM (although is suspect all you will find is i386). > > if you don't find i686, then just take the i386 one and boot strap a > new compiler. A source tar ball for gcc can be gotten from a number > of mirrors. Homepage here : http://gcc.gnu.org/ > Mirrors listed here : http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html > > It's not difficult to bootstrap a compiler. If you need assistance > doing this, let me know. > > Good luck. > > Jason. > > --- Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Does anyone know if I can get binaries so I can compile for i686 on > > fedora and / or rhel4. I'm trying to set up distcc, but I need > > i686 > > in order for it to work. The machines are more than compatible and > > I > > don't know what redhat hasn't finally switched over. I'm not sure > > I > > know of a single i386 machine still in use. > > > > -- > > Chuck Haines > > chaines(a)gmail.com > > http://www.maxslack.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] i686 gcc on fedora or rhel4

by J Schonberg

Chuck, I moved to Linux Mandrake long ago becuase they made an effort at i586. I have no idea why Redhat/Fedora continues with i386 but I don't want to start a flame war here. If you need a compiler (i.e. you currently have none) get an RPM for fedora. You can get one from rpmfind.net. It's possible that you can find a i686 RPM (although is suspect all you will find is i386). if you don't find i686, then just take the i386 one and boot strap a new compiler. A source tar ball for gcc can be gotten from a number of mirrors. Homepage here : http://gcc.gnu.org/ Mirrors listed here : http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html It's not difficult to bootstrap a compiler. If you need assistance doing this, let me know. Good luck. Jason. --- Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Does anyone know if I can get binaries so I can compile for i686 on > fedora and / or rhel4. I'm trying to set up distcc, but I need > i686 > in order for it to work. The machines are more than compatible and > I > don't know what redhat hasn't finally switched over. I'm not sure > I > know of a single i386 machine still in use. > > -- > Chuck Haines > chaines(a)gmail.com > http://www.maxslack.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

March 8, 2005

i686 gcc on fedora or rhel4

by Chuck Haines

Does anyone know if I can get binaries so I can compile for i686 on fedora and / or rhel4. I'm trying to set up distcc, but I need i686 in order for it to work. The machines are more than compatible and I don't know what redhat hasn't finally switched over. I'm not sure I know of a single i386 machine still in use. -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com http://www.maxslack.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

March 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] WPC54G and Gentoo

by The Freak

How? I have one and I have to manually configure it via iwconfig and restart net.ath0. What are you doing that I'm not? i have that exact setup. On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 22:43:27 -0500, Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Ignore my last email. No sooner had I sent the email out that I got > things working. > > Chuck > > -- > Chuck Haines > chaines(a)gmail.com > http://www.maxslack.com > ------------------------------------------- > Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity > TKE-ZM Web Coordinator > ECE Systems Administrator > ------------------------------------------- > AIM: CyberGrex > YIM: CyberGrex_27 > ICQ: 3707881 > ------------------------------------------- > GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 > GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 8, 2005

WPC54G and Gentoo

by Chuck Haines

Ignore my last email. No sooner had I sent the email out that I got things working. Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com http://www.maxslack.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

March 8, 2005

WPC54G and Gentoo

by Chuck Haines

Does anyone here have experience with a Linksys WPC54G and Gentoo? I've installed the ndiswrappers according to the gentoo HOW-TO and installed the correct driver for the wireless card. The card is detected just fine, however when it tries to associate with an AP it always fails. I've tried setting the parameters manually with iwconfig and then running dhcpcd, however it doesn't get an IP. According to iwconfig it is seeing the AP but not pulling an IP. Any help with this would be much appreciated. I'd like to get this running. Thanks, -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com http://www.maxslack.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

March 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Parking

by Andy Stewart

On Monday 07 March 2005 1:42 pm, Chuck R. Anderson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 01:06:39PM -0500, Raja Mukherjee wrote: > > A question - is there disabled parking near the Morgan Hall? The WPI > > site map didn't show any. Thanks > > Yes, there is Accessible Parking right in front of Daniels Hall. The > meeting is held in the Wedge between Daniels and Morgan Halls. In addition to Accessible Parking in front of Daniels Hall, there is a ramp from the parking area into the front entrance of Daniels Hall. Daniels Hall and Morgan Hall are physically connected (go right once inside). The Access Grid Room (our meeting room) also has a ramp into the room from the left entrance. New members are always welcome at WLUG meetings! Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 8, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Parking

by Chuck R. Anderson

On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 01:06:39PM -0500, Raja Mukherjee wrote: > A question - is there disabled parking near the Morgan Hall? The WPI > site map didn't show any. Thanks Yes, there is Accessible Parking right in front of Daniels Hall. The meeting is held in the Wedge between Daniels and Morgan Halls.

March 7, 2005

Parking

by Raja Mukherjee

Hi, I am planning to attend the WLUG meeting on March 23. I am a newbie and look forward to being a member of the group. A question - is there disabled parking near the Morgan Hall? The WPI site map didn't show any. Thanks -- Raja Mukherjee Brookfield, MA 01506

March 7, 2005

Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 3

by Raja Mukherjee

Hi, I am planning to attend the WLUG meeting on March 23. I am a newbie and look forward to being a member of the group. A question - is there disabled parking near the Morgan Hall? The WPI site map didn't show any. Thanks Raja Mukherjee Brookfield, MA 01506

March 7, 2005

SUN/IBM Server Rentals

by Chuck Noyes

Hi All, The company where I work (in Worcester), is interested in renting a SUN server, with a current version of Solaris pre-installed, as well as an IBM box (pSeries or xSeries) running a current version of AIX. We would like to rent the boxes for about 3 months. Does anyone know of a place in the area that does this? Thanks, -Chuck

March 7, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Uninstall Suse Linux 8.0

by Andy Stewart

> Andy: > > Just because I can, I have 3 mouses (mice?) connected to my machine: a > PS-2 2-button track-ball wannabe, a USB microsoft thumb-driven trackball, > and a USB optical (as opposed to the little ball in the bottom) 3-button > mouse. In windows, they all control the cursor quite well. When I try to > log in to Linux, the moment that I touch a mouse (even if I only have one > -- any one -- mouse connected, my cursor moves extremely rapidly to the top > of the screen, and out of sight. My next move is to re-boot and go into > Gates-ville. HI Phil, Jared is right....we'd need to see your X server config file. In the mean time, I'd try with just one mouse connected. That should work. > When's the next meeting? Where? I attended a meeting over a year ago, and > you'd just moved into that multi-media room. The next meeting is Wednesday, March 23rd at 7:00 PM. I post meeting info on the WLUG home page at http://www.wlug.org. The meeting topic is TBD. The location is the Access Grid Room (yes, that's the "multi-media room") located in Morgan Hall. Detailed directions and a campus map can be found on the WLUG website. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 7, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Uninstall Suse Linux 8.0

by Jared Greenwald

Get to a command-line and forward along a copy of your X server config file. This is either /etc/X11/XF86Config or /etc/X11/xorg.conf depending on whether you are running XFree86 or X.org... That combined with the information you just sent should be enough to triage. My only concern is that you are getting events from two pointers on the usb bus that both think they are the correct mouse. That's most likely your problem, but the X server config will shed more light. -Jared On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 23:47:52 -0500, philrmcss(a)netscape.net <philrmcss(a)netscape.net> wrote: > Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > >On Sunday 06 March 2005 7:20 pm, philrmcss(a)netscape.net wrote: > >> I have installed Suse Linux Home Edition 8.0 on my machine. Something went > >> wrong when it installed, and it won't see my mouse. Hence, I can't > >> navigate within it. Can anyone tell me how to uninstall it, and restore my > >> hard drive to its original configuration, until I can install another > >> version? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Phil > > > >Hi Phil, > > > >If you give us more info, we might be able to help you fix the mouse. What > >type of mouse do you have? Is it a PS/2 mouse, a USB interface, or is it > >perhaps a serial mouse? Feel free to describe the connector if you're > >unsure. > > > >Later, > > > >Andy > > > >-- > >Andy Stewart, Founder > >Worcester Linux Users' Group > >Worcester, MA USA > >http://www.wlug.org > > > > Andy: > > Just because I can, I have 3 mouses (mice?) connected to my machine: a PS-2 2-button track-ball wannabe, a USB microsoft thumb-driven trackball, and a USB optical (as opposed to the little ball in the bottom) 3-button mouse. In windows, they all control the cursor quite well. When I try to log in to Linux, the moment that I touch a mouse (even if I only have one -- any one -- mouse connected, my cursor moves extremely rapidly to the top of the screen, and out of sight. My next move is to re-boot and go into Gates-ville. > > When's the next meeting? Where? I attended a meeting over a year ago, and you'd just moved into that multi-media room. > > Thanks. > > Phil > > __________________________________________________________________ > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. > Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 7, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Uninstall Suse Linux 8.0

by philrmcss＠netscape.net

Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: >On Sunday 06 March 2005 7:20 pm, philrmcss(a)netscape.net wrote: >> I have installed Suse Linux Home Edition 8.0 on my machine. Something went >> wrong when it installed, and it won't see my mouse. Hence, I can't >> navigate within it. Can anyone tell me how to uninstall it, and restore my >> hard drive to its original configuration, until I can install another >> version? >> >> Thanks >> >> Phil > >Hi Phil, > >If you give us more info, we might be able to help you fix the mouse. What >type of mouse do you have? Is it a PS/2 mouse, a USB interface, or is it >perhaps a serial mouse? Feel free to describe the connector if you're >unsure. > >Later, > >Andy > >-- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA USA >http://www.wlug.org > Andy: Just because I can, I have 3 mouses (mice?) connected to my machine: a PS-2 2-button track-ball wannabe, a USB microsoft thumb-driven trackball, and a USB optical (as opposed to the little ball in the bottom) 3-button mouse. In windows, they all control the cursor quite well. When I try to log in to Linux, the moment that I touch a mouse (even if I only have one -- any one -- mouse connected, my cursor moves extremely rapidly to the top of the screen, and out of sight. My next move is to re-boot and go into Gates-ville. When's the next meeting? Where? I attended a meeting over a year ago, and you'd just moved into that multi-media room. Thanks. Phil __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

March 7, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Uninstall Suse Linux 8.0

by Andy Stewart

On Sunday 06 March 2005 7:20 pm, philrmcss(a)netscape.net wrote: > I have installed Suse Linux Home Edition 8.0 on my machine. Something went > wrong when it installed, and it won't see my mouse. Hence, I can't > navigate within it. Can anyone tell me how to uninstall it, and restore my > hard drive to its original configuration, until I can install another > version? > > Thanks > > Phil Hi Phil, If you give us more info, we might be able to help you fix the mouse. What type of mouse do you have? Is it a PS/2 mouse, a USB interface, or is it perhaps a serial mouse? Feel free to describe the connector if you're unsure. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 7, 2005

Uninstall Suse Linux 8.0

by philrmcss＠netscape.net

I have installed Suse Linux Home Edition 8.0 on my machine. Something went wrong when it installed, and it won't see my mouse. Hence, I can't navigate within it. Can anyone tell me how to uninstall it, and restore my hard drive to its original configuration, until I can install another version? Thanks Phil __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

March 7, 2005

Re: [Wlug] HDTV tuner card

by Dwight A. Ernest

TiVo is also Linux internally. Karl Hiramoto wrote: > Some of these boxes, internally run linux. For example if you have Dish > Network (Echostar) their DVR box runs linux. > > http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS3193876970.html

March 6, 2005

Re: [Wlug] HDTV tuner card

by Karl Hiramoto

Some of these boxes, internally run linux. For example if you have Dish Network (Echostar) their DVR box runs linux. http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS3193876970.html Chuck R. Anderson wrote: >On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 08:39:26AM -0500, Scott Venier wrote: > > >>>Do you know of any good cards that receive DVB from cable or >>>satellite? >>> >>> >>Not a one. :( This is why I ended up with the Comcast DVR instead of a >>HD Myth box. >> >> > >Well, even if you had a DVB card, you most likely wouldn't be able to >descramble the channels anyway, so you'll still end up needing to use >your cable/satellite box with MythTV anyway. > >I just noticed that my Charter digital cable box has SVIDEO out... and >the HD-3000 has SVIDEO in, so I'll probably go this route. >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

March 6, 2005

Re: [Wlug] HDTV tuner card

by Chuck R. Anderson

On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 08:39:26AM -0500, Scott Venier wrote: > > Do you know of any good cards that receive DVB from cable or > > satellite? > > Not a one. :( This is why I ended up with the Comcast DVR instead of a > HD Myth box. Well, even if you had a DVB card, you most likely wouldn't be able to descramble the channels anyway, so you'll still end up needing to use your cable/satellite box with MythTV anyway. I just noticed that my Charter digital cable box has SVIDEO out... and the HD-3000 has SVIDEO in, so I'll probably go this route.

March 6, 2005

Re: [Wlug] HDTV tuner card

by Scott Venier

Chuck R. Anderson said: > > > Do you know of any good cards that receive DVB from cable or > satellite? Not a one. :( This is why I ended up with the Comcast DVR instead of a HD Myth box. Scott

March 6, 2005

Re: [Wlug] HDTV tuner card

by Chuck R. Anderson

On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 06:06:47PM -0500, Scott Venier wrote: > I was looking at that card for a while and was tempted, but the key catch > is that it only supports off the air signals. Meaning you need an > antenna. You can't use it with your cable or satelite system. > > But, if you're already watching HDTV off an antenna, it seems like a great > way to go. Do you know of any good cards that receive DVB from cable or satellite?

March 6, 2005

Re: [Wlug] HDTV tuner card

by Jim Dibb

Cable and over the air use different encoding, so I don't think and rf modulator, broadcasting the cable signal is going to get you an acceptable OTA signal. On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 22:11:38 -0500, Walt Sawyer <wsawyer(a)norfolk-county.com> wrote: > or perhaps an RF modulator??? > > Walt > > > On Sat, 2005-03-05 at 18:06 -0500, Scott Venier wrote: > > I was looking at that card for a while and was tempted, but the key catch > > is that it only supports off the air signals. Meaning you need an > > antenna. You can't use it with your cable or satelite system. > > > > But, if you're already watching HDTV off an antenna, it seems like a great > > way to go. > > > > Scott > > > > Chuck R. Anderson said: > > > I'm thinking about putting together an order for the pcHDTV HD-3000 > > > PCI NTSC/ATSC tuner card sold here: > > > > > > > > > http://www.pchdtv.com/ > > > > > > > > > It supports Linux (and does not officially support anything BUT > > > Linux), and does not obey the "broadcast flag". It will only be legal > > > to buy such a card until July 1, 2005: > > > > > > http://www.eff.org/broadcastflag/ > > > > > > > > > and it works in MythTV: > > > > > > http://www.mythtv.org/ > > > > > > > > > If people are interested, we can save money by ordering together: > > > > > > > > > "Price reduced to now only $169.98. Volume discounts start on just 2 > > > cards saving $4.98 ea. and $9.98 on 5 or more cards" > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 6, 2005

Re: [Wlug] HDTV tuner card

by Walt Sawyer

or perhaps an RF modulator??? Walt On Sat, 2005-03-05 at 18:06 -0500, Scott Venier wrote: > I was looking at that card for a while and was tempted, but the key catch > is that it only supports off the air signals. Meaning you need an > antenna. You can't use it with your cable or satelite system. > > But, if you're already watching HDTV off an antenna, it seems like a great > way to go. > > Scott > > Chuck R. Anderson said: > > I'm thinking about putting together an order for the pcHDTV HD-3000 > > PCI NTSC/ATSC tuner card sold here: > > > > > > http://www.pchdtv.com/ > > > > > > It supports Linux (and does not officially support anything BUT > > Linux), and does not obey the "broadcast flag". It will only be legal > > to buy such a card until July 1, 2005: > > > > http://www.eff.org/broadcastflag/ > > > > > > and it works in MythTV: > > > > http://www.mythtv.org/ > > > > > > If people are interested, we can save money by ordering together: > > > > > > "Price reduced to now only $169.98. Volume discounts start on just 2 > > cards saving $4.98 ea. and $9.98 on 5 or more cards" > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > --

March 6, 2005

Re: [Wlug] HDTV tuner card

by Scott Venier

I was looking at that card for a while and was tempted, but the key catch is that it only supports off the air signals. Meaning you need an antenna. You can't use it with your cable or satelite system. But, if you're already watching HDTV off an antenna, it seems like a great way to go. Scott Chuck R. Anderson said: > I'm thinking about putting together an order for the pcHDTV HD-3000 > PCI NTSC/ATSC tuner card sold here: > > > http://www.pchdtv.com/ > > > It supports Linux (and does not officially support anything BUT > Linux), and does not obey the "broadcast flag". It will only be legal > to buy such a card until July 1, 2005: > > http://www.eff.org/broadcastflag/ > > > and it works in MythTV: > > http://www.mythtv.org/ > > > If people are interested, we can save money by ordering together: > > > "Price reduced to now only $169.98. Volume discounts start on just 2 > cards saving $4.98 ea. and $9.98 on 5 or more cards" > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 5, 2005

HDTV tuner card

by Chuck R. Anderson

I'm thinking about putting together an order for the pcHDTV HD-3000 PCI NTSC/ATSC tuner card sold here: http://www.pchdtv.com/ It supports Linux (and does not officially support anything BUT Linux), and does not obey the "broadcast flag". It will only be legal to buy such a card until July 1, 2005: http://www.eff.org/broadcastflag/ and it works in MythTV: http://www.mythtv.org/ If people are interested, we can save money by ordering together: "Price reduced to now only $169.98. Volume discounts start on just 2 cards saving $4.98 ea. and $9.98 on 5 or more cards"

March 5, 2005

Fwd: Invitation- complimentary Tech Briefing: IBM software for the on demand operating environment in Boston on March 15

by Andy Stewart

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Invitation- complimentary Tech Briefing: IBM software for the on demand operating environment in Boston on March 15 Date: Tuesday 01 March 2005 6:56 pm From: Karen C Lee <leekc(a)us.ibm.com> To: Join us and extend this invitation to your user group members, colleagues, faculty and students for the complimentary IBM Technical Briefing: IBM software for the on demand operating environment in Boston on March 15. Lunch will be provided. Register today at: http://www.ibm.com/developerWorks/offers/techbriefings/ IBM software for the on demand operating environment This full-day briefing will cover the broad scope of IBM's software strategy and how our middleware products work together to deliver the on demand operating environment. It features more than 30 live demonstrations of IBM WebSphere, DB2, Lotus, Tivoli, and Rational products showing how new technologies like service-oriented architecture, business process modeling, enterprise service bus, portal based collaboration, content integration, application development life cycle, and a virtualized I/T infrastructure can deliver the responsiveness and flexibility that today's businesses demand. Learn how IBM middleware capabilities compare to those from Microsoft .NET, SAP NetWeaver and Oracle. This briefing is designed for business managers and IT professionals. If you want to know more about IBM's support for the on demand business, or if you are just trying to understand which vendor offers the best software platform, then don't miss this briefing! cities and dates include: * Boston on March 15 * NYC on March 17 * Chicago on March 22 * Minneapolis on March 24 * Washington, DC on April 5 * Toronto on April 7 Register today at: http://www.ibm.com/developerWorks/offers/techbriefings/ For more information on these briefings or any of the other complimentary developerWorks Live! briefings being offered in various locations worldwide, visit: http://www.ibm.com/developerWorks/offers/techbriefings/ We look forward to seeing you soon. The developerWorks Team. ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 2, 2005

New meeting dates for March/April 2005

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, I've just updated the WLUG website. The meeting dates for our next two meetings are: Wednesday, March 23rd Wednesday, April 20th Discussion topics are still TBD. Also, I've just posted Scott Venier's slides from his Vesta talk at the February meeting. Thanks again, Scott! Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 26, 2005

Reminder: WLUG Meeting Thursday 7 PM

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, Our next WLUG meeting is scheduled for Thursday, February 17th at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. Let's hope it doesn't snow this time....... :-) Our guest speaker will be Scott Venier, a long time WLUG member, who will be discussing Vesta, a software configuration management system. Vesta is a portable SCM system targeted at supporting development of software systems of almost any size, from fairly small (under 10,000 source lines) to very large (10,000,000 source lines). It is both a revision control system and a build system. Vesta provides full automatic dependency detection and guarantees exact repeatability of any build. See ya there! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 16, 2005

RE: [Wlug] Quick Question if anybody knows conserning .ppt and DV D's

by Keller, Tim

The other "kludgy" solution would be to run the slideshow, and then dump the output into a capture card... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Sawyer Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 12:35 PM To: Tom Misilo; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Quick Question if anybody knows conserning .ppt and DVD's The only thing I can think of is to save each frame as a picture. Then burn a picture disc. On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:29:06 -0500, Tom Misilo <tmisilo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I was wondering if anybody knew how I could convert a .ppt Power Point > File into a Movie file (such as .avi .mpg or such) so that it could be > put onto a DVD or VCD > > Thanks, > Tom Misilo > -- > Tom Misilo > Saint Bernard's High School '06 > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 15, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Quick Question if anybody knows conserning .ppt and DVD's

by Patrick Sawyer

The only thing I can think of is to save each frame as a picture. Then burn a picture disc. On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:29:06 -0500, Tom Misilo <tmisilo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I was wondering if anybody knew how I could convert a .ppt Power Point > File into a Movie file (such as .avi .mpg or such) so that it could be > put onto a DVD or VCD > > Thanks, > Tom Misilo > -- > Tom Misilo > Saint Bernard's High School '06 > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 14, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Teach an old guy new tricks.

by Ira Krakow

Ken, > I miss the problem solving and the camaraderie of > the work place. 1) Find a problem you want to solve, that doesn't have a good solution yet, perhaps hasn't been solved, or has been tackled by a Linux project and you are curious about. Be open to learning more. 2) Check out www.sourceforge.net, which is the repository for open source projects, and search for the projects you might like to contribute. Join their mailing list, look at the pending tasks, and lurk a while to find out how the project is organized. 3) Match your interests and talents with the pending projects and try something that you tackle easily. Confirming or finding a bug (the projects usually have publicly available bug lists) is a good way to start. Maybe you are good at documentation - usually there are many areas where you can contribute - it's also a great way to learn. 4) Once you are confident enough, download the source code and start fixing bugs and suggesting enhancements. Best of luck. Many Linux-based projects need people with your talents. Ira

Feb. 14, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Teach an old guy new tricks.

by Bill Smith

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:29:50 -0500 Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > I am interested in getting involved in Linux Open Source development. > > I am a seventy year old retiree. I started programming on the AN/FSQ7 > at MIT's Lincoln Laboratory in 1957. (If you read "Computing in the > Middle Ages" by Severo Ornstein, I was there.) I finished by > professional work life as a Senior Software Engineer at CISCO Systems > in 2003. First, the Bad News: the number of people who shudder at the term "shuffle the deck" is greatly diminishing. Looking at the way some software is developed these days, that may be a Bad Thing. ;) > I miss the problem solving and the camaraderie of the work place. I > wonder whether I can contribute to the development of Linux. How do I > start? The best thing I could suggest is to find a project that interests you, join the development mailing list (if it has one), and ask how you can help. (This will likely be answered in advance by reading that project's TODO list.) There are lots of drivers that need to be written or debugged. Finding something to work on shouldn't be too hard. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com Microsoft Windows doesn't HAVE security holes... It IS a security hole. * TAG! v3.1a *

Feb. 14, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Teach an old guy new tricks.

by Gary Hanley

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Ken Jones wrote: > I am interested in getting involved in Linux Open Source development. > How do I start? This advice from someone who has NOT done any development for Linux but would love to someday after I retire (or are out of work for an extended period of time)... 1: Install Linux on your PC (or whatever compatible hardware you have). 2: Go to this directory: /usr/src/linux/Documentation and read some (or most) of the text files here, notably: * BUG-HUNTING * CodingStyle * SubmittingPatches 3: Become familiar with this site: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/ 4: Have fun! :-) -- Gary

Feb. 13, 2005

Teach an old guy new tricks.

by Ken Jones

I am interested in getting involved in Linux Open Source development. I am a seventy year old retiree. I started programming on the AN/FSQ7 at MIT's Lincoln Laboratory in 1957. (If you read "Computing in the Middle Ages" by Severo Ornstein, I was there.) I finished by professional work life as a Senior Software Engineer at CISCO Systems in 2003. I miss the problem solving and the camaraderie of the work place. I wonder whether I can contribute to the development of Linux. How do I start? Ken Jones

Feb. 12, 2005

Quick Question if anybody knows conserning .ppt and DVD's

by Tom Misilo

I was wondering if anybody knew how I could convert a .ppt Power Point File into a Movie file (such as .avi .mpg or such) so that it could be put onto a DVD or VCD Thanks, Tom Misilo -- Tom Misilo Saint Bernard's High School '06

Feb. 12, 2005

Meeting POSTPONED

by Andy Stewart

HI gang, My sincere apologies for the late notice, but I just got home and the conditions are deteriorating quickly. The WLUG meeting is postponed until next week Thursday, Feb 17th. Please stay home this evening. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 10, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM

by Andy Stewart

On Wednesday 09 February 2005 10:20 am, Robert Schwein wrote: > Andy > > For us new guys, where is the "usual place"? > > Thanks > > Bob HI Bob, The "usual place" is on the WPI Campus in Worcester, MA USA*, in a room called the Access Grid room. This room is located on the first floor of Morgan Hall. You can find more detailed directions on the WLUG home page at http://www.wlug.org, click on "WLUG Meetings" near the top of the page, and then scroll down to the bottom and click the "Directions" link. I am conscious of the fact that the weather may be inclement. Use your own good judgement - if the weather outside is frightful (but the air is so delightful), don't do anything foolish. Any potential cancellation email would have to be sent out by 4 PM at the latest, so please check your email boxes on Thursday. Later, Andy *I need to say USA since there is a Worcester, England, and once upon a time someone thought we were in the UK since I didn't explicitly say USA. Ahhh, the wonders of a world wide medium. :-) -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 10, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:26:00PM -0800, Ira Krakow wrote: > --- Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I'll be going to Linux World on Wednesday and > > probably on Thursday > > since WPI was nice enough to plan academic advising > > day on thursday :) > > I'll be going all 3 days. BTW, if you plan on going > Wednesday, the Boston Linux User Group, at: > > http://www.blu.org/ > > is scheduling a LinuxWorld "bull session" at MIT from > 7pm to 9pm. Might be worth it to exchange ideas. > It's a short walk from the Hynes. I'll be at LWCE and FUDCon1 too.

Feb. 9, 2005

Re: RE: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM

by Gary Hanley

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Clint Moyer wrote: > Actually, 4 to 8 inches, Chicken Little. If you believe any of it you probably have not lived in the Northeast very long. Snow forecasts around here are usually inaccurate. Too many $VARIABLES at play to predict reliably. Best bet is to prepare for the high-end of the forecast and hope for the low-end. -- Gary

Feb. 9, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM

by Ira Krakow

I'll be going all 3 days. BTW, if you plan on going Wednesday, the Boston Linux User Group, at: http://www.blu.org/ is scheduling a LinuxWorld "bull session" at MIT from 7pm to 9pm. Might be worth it to exchange ideas. It's a short walk from the Hynes. Ira --- Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'll be going to Linux World on Wednesday and > probably on Thursday > since WPI was nice enough to plan academic advising > day on thursday :) > > Chuck > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:18:26 -0500, Keller, Tim > <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I wonder how many people are going to show > considering NOAA is talking about > > 20 inches of snow for the area. > > > > > > > > Also, other than myself, who else intends to > attend the Linux World Expo in > > Boston next week? > > > > > > > > Later, > > > > Tim. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org > [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > > Behalf Of Robert Schwein > > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:21 AM > > To: andystewart(a)comcast.net; Worcester Linux > Users Group > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > For us new guys, where is the "usual place"? > > > > Thanks > > > > Bob > > > > Andy Stewart wrote: HI Everybody, This is a > reminder about the upcoming > > WLUG meeting which will be held on Thursday, Feb. > 10th at 7:00 PM in the > > usual place. Our guest speaker will be Scott > Venier, a long time WLUG > > member, who will be discussing Vesta, a software > configuration management > > system. Vesta is a portable SCM system targeted at > supporting development of > > software systems of almost any size, from fairly > small (under 10,000 source > > lines) to very large (10,000,000 source lines). It > is both a revision > > control system and a build system. Vesta provides > full automatic dependency > > detection and guarantees exact repeatability of > any build. See ya there! > > Andy ________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________Wlug > mailing > > > listWlug@mail.wlug.orghttp://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > -- > Chuck Haines > chaines(a)gmail.com > ------------------------------------------- > Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity > TKE-ZM Web Coordinator > ECE Systems Administrator > ------------------------------------------- > AIM: CyberGrex > YIM: CyberGrex_27 > ICQ: 3707881 > ------------------------------------------- > GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD > CCB5 4BD7 0989 > GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 9, 2005

Re: RE: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM

by Jeff Kinz

On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:29:29PM -0500, Clint Moyer wrote: > Actually, 4 to 8 inches, Chicken Little. (Be fair to the poor guy, late last night 20+ inches was 'cast) 7-10 inches, starting as rain going to mix, most accumulation on Thurs. - local TV noon report. > > http://www.crh.noaa.gov/data/forecasts/showsigwx.php?warnzone=MAZ012&warnco… > Trim your posts people ! -- Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://kinz.org http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA.

Feb. 9, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM

by Chuck Haines

I'll be going to Linux World on Wednesday and probably on Thursday since WPI was nice enough to plan academic advising day on thursday :) Chuck On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:18:26 -0500, Keller, Tim <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> wrote: > > > > I wonder how many people are going to show considering NOAA is talking about > 20 inches of snow for the area. > > > > Also, other than myself, who else intends to attend the Linux World Expo in > Boston next week? > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Schwein > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:21 AM > To: andystewart(a)comcast.net; Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM > > > > > Andy > > For us new guys, where is the "usual place"? > > Thanks > > Bob > > Andy Stewart wrote: HI Everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming > WLUG meeting which will be held on Thursday, Feb. 10th at 7:00 PM in the > usual place. Our guest speaker will be Scott Venier, a long time WLUG > member, who will be discussing Vesta, a software configuration management > system. Vesta is a portable SCM system targeted at supporting development of > software systems of almost any size, from fairly small (under 10,000 source > lines) to very large (10,000,000 source lines). It is both a revision > control system and a build system. Vesta provides full automatic dependency > detection and guarantees exact repeatability of any build. See ya there! > Andy ________________________________ > _______________________________________________Wlug mailing > listWlug@mail.wlug.orghttp://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

Feb. 9, 2005

Re: RE: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM

by Clint Moyer

Actually, 4 to 8 inches, Chicken Little. http://www.crh.noaa.gov/data/forecasts/showsigwx.php?warnzone=MAZ012&warnco… > > From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> > Date: 2005/02/09 Wed AM 11:18:26 EST > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Subject: RE: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM > > I wonder how many people are going to show considering NOAA is talking about > 20 inches of snow for the area. > > > > Also, other than myself, who else intends to attend the Linux World Expo in > Boston next week? > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > _____ > > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Schwein > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:21 AM > To: andystewart(a)comcast.net; Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM > > > > Andy > > For us new guys, where is the "usual place"? > > Thanks > > Bob > > Andy Stewart wrote: > > HI Everybody, > > This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting which will be held on > Thursday, Feb. 10th at 7:00 PM in the usual place. > > Our guest speaker will be Scott Venier, a long time WLUG member, who will be > > discussing Vesta, a software configuration management system. > > Vesta is a portable SCM system targeted at supporting development of > software > systems of almost any size, from fairly small (under 10,000 source lines) to > > very large (10,000,000 source lines). It is both a revision control system > and a build system. Vesta provides full automatic dependency detection and > guarantees exact repeatability of any build. > > See ya there! > > Andy > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > <http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug> > > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 9, 2005

RE: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM

by Keller, Tim

I wonder how many people are going to show considering NOAA is talking about 20 inches of snow for the area. Also, other than myself, who else intends to attend the Linux World Expo in Boston next week? Later, Tim. _____ From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Schwein Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:21 AM To: andystewart(a)comcast.net; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM Andy For us new guys, where is the "usual place"? Thanks Bob Andy Stewart wrote: HI Everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting which will be held on Thursday, Feb. 10th at 7:00 PM in the usual place. Our guest speaker will be Scott Venier, a long time WLUG member, who will be discussing Vesta, a software configuration management system. Vesta is a portable SCM system targeted at supporting development of software systems of almost any size, from fairly small (under 10,000 source lines) to very large (10,000,000 source lines). It is both a revision control system and a build system. Vesta provides full automatic dependency detection and guarantees exact repeatability of any build. See ya there! Andy _____ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug <http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug>

Feb. 9, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM

by Robert Schwein

Andy For us new guys, where is the "usual place"? Thanks Bob Andy Stewart wrote: >HI Everybody, > >This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting which will be held on >Thursday, Feb. 10th at 7:00 PM in the usual place. > >Our guest speaker will be Scott Venier, a long time WLUG member, who will be >discussing Vesta, a software configuration management system. > >Vesta is a portable SCM system targeted at supporting development of software >systems of almost any size, from fairly small (under 10,000 source lines) to >very large (10,000,000 source lines). It is both a revision control system >and a build system. Vesta provides full automatic dependency detection and >guarantees exact repeatability of any build. > >See ya there! > >Andy > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Feb. 9, 2005

Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting which will be held on Thursday, Feb. 10th at 7:00 PM in the usual place. Our guest speaker will be Scott Venier, a long time WLUG member, who will be discussing Vesta, a software configuration management system. Vesta is a portable SCM system targeted at supporting development of software systems of almost any size, from fairly small (under 10,000 source lines) to very large (10,000,000 source lines). It is both a revision control system and a build system. Vesta provides full automatic dependency detection and guarantees exact repeatability of any build. See ya there! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 9, 2005

CUPS + Accounting System

by Chuck Haines

Does anyone have any experience / know of an accounting system that I can use with CUPS? I'm getting ready to migrate our print server from lprng to cups, but I need a new accounting software. The only one is homebrew, but I'd like to move to something more sophisticated if possible. The only basic needs I have for the accounting system is to set a price per page and have the costs and page counts dumb to MySQL so my web front end will work. Thanks, -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

Feb. 2, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Anyone running Linux on Pegasos?

by Brian Waite

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 19:33:28 -0500, Pete Wason <codevark(a)netscape.net> wrote: > Just curious... I have a Peg I, but I'm running MorphOS. > > Boots in about 4 seconds ;-) > > Pete Wason > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > A bit OT. But I have boards based on the same chipsets as the Peg and I know it is currently being tested with 2.6.11... I have been helping out with the chipset dev under 2.4 and 2.6. Are you just curious about who is doing what or do you need some help. I would be more than happy to help you bring it up under 2.6 becuse it would give another test point. Thanks Brian

Feb. 2, 2005

Re: [Wlug] xbiff

by Jeff Kinz

On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 05:11:58PM -0500, Jeff Moyer wrote: > ==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] xbiff; Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> adds: > > ==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] xbiff; Jeff Kinz <jkinz(a)kinz.org> adds: > jkinz> Also- didn't something called "inotify" just make it into the > jkinz> kernel? I think that is also a file change notification utility? > > jmoyer> It's not in the kernel as of 2.6.10. There are patches, of course, Its in Andrew's tree, with patches being applied (quickly) as people find problems. :) > jmoyer> but even if it were in the kernel, it wouldn't be a drop in > jmoyer> replacement for xbiff (obviously). Ya, its a lower level facility one would use to build an xbiff replacement. > jmoyer> Though, it wouldn't be too difficult to write a replacement using > jmoyer> inotify. Ah, yes, quite. :) > > I just looked into this further. It seems inotify, in its current form, > has little chance of inclusion in mainstream kernels. Al Viro puked all > over it, and with good reason. Al did point out a problem with a umount call in the middle of a inotify operation, but someone else (Mike Waychison) provided a patch for that problem. (Which may or may not be accepted, but Robert seems to like it). (FOI "For other's information" - background) Inotify is supposed to provide the low level dnotify-like functionality but with a much lower resource impact. I like that (assuming it can be done.) I've always hated seeing how much CPU fam was using, it seems like such a waste for something that appears to be trivial. (but like all things, may be harder than they appear). -- http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA.

Feb. 2, 2005

RE: [Maybe Spam] Re: [Wlug] Anyone running Linux on Pegasos?

by Martin, Eric J.

I put Linux on my Beige G3... -----Original Message----- From: Webmaster [mailto:webmaster@atari-users.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:04 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Maybe Spam] Re: [Wlug] Anyone running Linux on Pegasos? A Pegasos is a PPC based system. MorphOS is somewhat of an Amiga OS clone. The Pegasos has had Linux ported to it. But my question for Pete is.. think Genesi (Pegasos company) will be around a year from now? check out http://www.pegasosppc.com fro info on the board. Rob Mahlert Charles R. Anderson wrote: >On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 07:33:28PM -0500, Pete Wason wrote: > > >>Just curious... I have a Peg I, but I'm running MorphOS. >> >>Boots in about 4 seconds ;-) >> >>Pete Wason >> >> > >What's a Pegasos? > >Looks like we have a volunteer to present at the next meeting :) >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 2, 2005

RE: [Maybe Spam] Re: [Wlug] Anyone running Linux on Pegasos?

by Martin, Eric J.

it's a version of PPC (PowerPC) -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Anderson [mailto:cra@WPI.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 10:33 PM To: Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Maybe Spam] Re: [Wlug] Anyone running Linux on Pegasos? On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 07:33:28PM -0500, Pete Wason wrote: > Just curious... I have a Peg I, but I'm running MorphOS. > > Boots in about 4 seconds ;-) > > Pete Wason What's a Pegasos? Looks like we have a volunteer to present at the next meeting :) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 2, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Anyone running Linux on Pegasos?

by Mike Frysinger

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 11:41 pm, Jared Greenwald wrote: > I think I remember seeing something about Gentoo supporting the Genesi > hardware platform... There is some connection between the two - I > think Genesi is a supporter or Gentoo and that they also will be > selling PPC boxes with Gentoo pre-installed. All in the name of Open > Desktop. yes, genesi was so kind as to donate 10 decent pegasos machines to the Gentoo project -mike

Feb. 2, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Anyone running Linux on Pegasos?

by Jared Greenwald

I think I remember seeing something about Gentoo supporting the Genesi hardware platform... There is some connection between the two - I think Genesi is a supporter or Gentoo and that they also will be selling PPC boxes with Gentoo pre-installed. All in the name of Open Desktop. -Jared On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 23:04:08 -0500, Webmaster <webmaster(a)atari-users.net> wrote: > A Pegasos is a PPC based system. MorphOS is somewhat of an Amiga OS > clone. The Pegasos has had Linux ported to it. > > But my question for Pete is.. think Genesi (Pegasos company) will be > around a year from now? > > check out http://www.pegasosppc.com fro info on the board. > > Rob Mahlert > > > Charles R. Anderson wrote: > > >On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 07:33:28PM -0500, Pete Wason wrote: > > > > > >>Just curious... I have a Peg I, but I'm running MorphOS. > >> > >>Boots in about 4 seconds ;-) > >> > >>Pete Wason > >> > >> > > > >What's a Pegasos? > > > >Looks like we have a volunteer to present at the next meeting :) > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 2, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Anyone running Linux on Pegasos?

by Webmaster

A Pegasos is a PPC based system. MorphOS is somewhat of an Amiga OS clone. The Pegasos has had Linux ported to it. But my question for Pete is.. think Genesi (Pegasos company) will be around a year from now? check out http://www.pegasosppc.com fro info on the board. Rob Mahlert Charles R. Anderson wrote: >On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 07:33:28PM -0500, Pete Wason wrote: > > >>Just curious... I have a Peg I, but I'm running MorphOS. >> >>Boots in about 4 seconds ;-) >> >>Pete Wason >> >> > >What's a Pegasos? > >Looks like we have a volunteer to present at the next meeting :) >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

Feb. 2, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Anyone running Linux on Pegasos?

by Charles R. Anderson

On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 07:33:28PM -0500, Pete Wason wrote: > Just curious... I have a Peg I, but I'm running MorphOS. > > Boots in about 4 seconds ;-) > > Pete Wason What's a Pegasos? Looks like we have a volunteer to present at the next meeting :)

Feb. 2, 2005

Anyone running Linux on Pegasos?

by Pete Wason

Just curious... I have a Peg I, but I'm running MorphOS. Boots in about 4 seconds ;-) Pete Wason

Feb. 2, 2005

Re: [Wlug] xbiff

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] xbiff; Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> adds: ==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] xbiff; Jeff Kinz <jkinz(a)kinz.org> adds: jkinz> On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:50:13AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:07:18AM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: > >>> replacement? hmm - my email clients seem to let me know without extra >>> > features. >>> Mine notifies me, too, but only if I'm in that screen. (Multiple >>> screens (insert correct name if not "screens") on my desktop.) Also, I >>> use it to notify me of new activity in other files. It's really quite >>> flexible and useful for local event notification. jkinz> Sounds very useful. I believe Gnome and KDE have built something jkinz> into their respective packages to do similar functionality. jkinz> Also- didn't something called "inotify" just make it into the jkinz> kernel? I think that is also a file change notification utility? jmoyer> It's not in the kernel as of 2.6.10. There are patches, of course, jmoyer> but even if it were in the kernel, it wouldn't be a drop in jmoyer> replacement for xbiff (obviously). jmoyer> Though, it wouldn't be too difficult to write a replacement using jmoyer> inotify. I just looked into this further. It seems inotify, in its current form, has little chance of inclusion in mainstream kernels. Al Viro puked all over it, and with good reason. You could use dnotify, but that would mean more caching within the user space app than should be necessary. But, that really isn't the issue here. Sorry, Bill, I don't know what others use to replace xbiff. You could always build and install it yourself, especially since it works for you. -Jeff

Feb. 1, 2005

Re: [Wlug] xbiff

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] xbiff; Jeff Kinz <jkinz(a)kinz.org> adds: jkinz> On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:50:13AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:07:18AM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: > >> replacement? hmm - my email clients seem to let me know without extra > >> features. >> Mine notifies me, too, but only if I'm in that screen. (Multiple >> screens (insert correct name if not "screens") on my desktop.) Also, I >> use it to notify me of new activity in other files. It's really quite >> flexible and useful for local event notification. jkinz> Sounds very useful. I believe Gnome and KDE have built something jkinz> into their respective packages to do similar functionality. jkinz> Also- didn't something called "inotify" just make it into the jkinz> kernel? I think that is also a file change notification utility? It's not in the kernel as of 2.6.10. There are patches, of course, but even if it were in the kernel, it wouldn't be a drop in replacement for xbiff (obviously). Though, it wouldn't be too difficult to write a replacement using inotify. -Jeff

Feb. 1, 2005

Re: [Wlug] xbiff

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] xbiff; Jeff Kinz <jkinz(a)kinz.org> adds: jkinz> On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:38:52AM -0500, Charles R. Anderson wrote: >> Hey Phro, do you still maintain PhroMail ;-) jkinz> That's Frank Sweetsers baby, isn't it? Yes, Frank wrote that when learning to program with the gtk+ library, iirc. I never maintained it, though I did submit patches. ;) From the readme: ,---- | Where the heck did you come up with *that* name? | --------------------------- | | When I first started writing this program, I didn't have a good name for | it. I mentioned to a friend of mine - you guessed it, his nickname was | Phro - that I was writing an xbiff replacement. He said "Yeah! You can | call it phromail - it'll send you mail to let you know that you've got new | mail!" While the overall idea didn't quite pan out, the name stuck. `---- -Jeff (a.k.a. phro)

Feb. 1, 2005

Re: [Wlug] PSC1210 and CUPS server

by Chuck Haines

I actually ended up figuring out a way to get it to work. Aparently HP doesn't ship the INF file that is required, they force you to use their stupid setup program, which assumes the printer is locally connected. So since I had the print drivers installed in cups and samba set up for the printers, I was able to install an Adobe Generic Postscript printer and point it to the samba printer. It seems to work fine since the all processing is done on the linux machine. Thanks for everyone's help. On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:17:11 -0500, Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 04:59:23PM -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: > > I just recently decided to put my PSC1210 on my linux server so I > > could share it with other people. I installed it using cups just > > fine, it's prints beautiful from the linux machine. However when I > > try and install the printer from Windows, it asks me for the INF file > > to install the driver. Not unfortunately HP doesn't include this INF, > > as they want you to install all their crap. I was curious if anyone > > else had any experience with this. > > > > Chuck > > > <snip> > > Hmmm... I thought you'd need to set up Samba. When you configure > Samba, there's a place where you can store the setup files for a > printer so that a Windows box can get them from there. I've never > done the driver directory setup myself -- it's one of those things I > never get around to doing. > > Bill > -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

Feb. 1, 2005

Re: [Wlug] PSC1210 and CUPS server

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 04:59:23PM -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: > I just recently decided to put my PSC1210 on my linux server so I > could share it with other people. I installed it using cups just > fine, it's prints beautiful from the linux machine. However when I > try and install the printer from Windows, it asks me for the INF file > to install the driver. Not unfortunately HP doesn't include this INF, > as they want you to install all their crap. I was curious if anyone > else had any experience with this. > > Chuck > <snip> Hmmm... I thought you'd need to set up Samba. When you configure Samba, there's a place where you can store the setup files for a printer so that a Windows box can get them from there. I've never done the driver directory setup myself -- it's one of those things I never get around to doing. Bill

Feb. 1, 2005

Re: [Wlug] PSC1210 and CUPS server

by James Baldassari

Also, be aware that Windows formats documents _before_ sending them to the printer, so when you have CUPS serving up a printer with Samba to Windows machines you need to tell the CUPS server to expect preformatted data: in /etc/cups/mime.types uncomment this line: #application/octet-stream in /etc/cups/mime.convs uncomment this line: #application/octet-stream application/vnd.cups-raw 0 - As for the INF file, you might just have to run the HP install program on one machine and try to figure out which INF file it installed for the printer. If you can find out which one is correct, you should be able to either copy it to the other Windows machines or configure CUPS/Samba to push the driver to the Windows clients when they add the printer. -James > On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:59 -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: >> I just recently decided to put my PSC1210 on my linux server so I >> could share it with other people. I installed it using cups just >> fine, it's prints beautiful from the linux machine. However when I >> try and install the printer from Windows, it asks me for the INF file >> to install the driver. Not unfortunately HP doesn't include this INF, >> as they want you to install all their crap. I was curious if anyone >> else had any experience with this. >> > > I am not sure whether this is the proper way to do it(ideologically and > practically) but I remember installing ESP print pro on win machine to > make it capable of printing via Internet Printing Protocol, IPP. > > Of course, do not forget to specify a list of allowed clients > in /etc/cupsd.conf > > Baris > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Feb. 1, 2005

Re: [Wlug] PSC1210 and CUPS server

by Baris Hasdemir

On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:59 -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: > I just recently decided to put my PSC1210 on my linux server so I > could share it with other people. I installed it using cups just > fine, it's prints beautiful from the linux machine. However when I > try and install the printer from Windows, it asks me for the INF file > to install the driver. Not unfortunately HP doesn't include this INF, > as they want you to install all their crap. I was curious if anyone > else had any experience with this. > I am not sure whether this is the proper way to do it(ideologically and practically) but I remember installing ESP print pro on win machine to make it capable of printing via Internet Printing Protocol, IPP. Of course, do not forget to specify a list of allowed clients in /etc/cupsd.conf Baris

Jan. 31, 2005

PSC1210 and CUPS server

by Chuck Haines

I just recently decided to put my PSC1210 on my linux server so I could share it with other people. I installed it using cups just fine, it's prints beautiful from the linux machine. However when I try and install the printer from Windows, it asks me for the INF file to install the driver. Not unfortunately HP doesn't include this INF, as they want you to install all their crap. I was curious if anyone else had any experience with this. Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] xbiff

by Jeff Kinz

On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:50:13AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:07:18AM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: > > replacement? hmm - my email clients seem to let me know without extra > > features. > Mine notifies me, too, but only if I'm in that screen. (Multiple > screens (insert correct name if not "screens") on my desktop.) Also, > I use it to notify me of new activity in other files. It's really > quite flexible and useful for local event notification. Sounds very useful. I believe Gnome and KDE have built something into their respective packages to do similar functionality. Also- didn't something called "inotify" just make it into the kernel? I think that is also a file change notification utility? -- Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://kinz.org http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA.

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] xbiff

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:07:18AM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: <snip> > > replacement? hmm - my email clients seem to let me know without extra > features. Jeff, Mine notifies me, too, but only if I'm in that screen. (Multiple screens (insert correct name if not "screens") on my desktop.) Also, I use it to notify me of new activity in other files. It's really quite flexible and useful for local event notification. Bill

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] xbiff

by Jeff Kinz

On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:38:52AM -0500, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > > Hey Phro, do you still maintain PhroMail ;-) That's Frank Sweetsers baby, isn't it? The Mutt E-Mail Client "All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less." - me, circa 1995 (me - Mike Elkins - mutt author) > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://kinz.org http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA.

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] xbiff

by Jeff Kinz

On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:07:18AM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 08:49:38AM -0500, Martin, Eric J. wrote: > > what's xbiff? > > "biff": name of the pet dog of one of the original (1970-190's) coders. > Dog used to bark whenever the mailman came. Correction: "biff": name of the pet dog of one of the original (1970-1980's) Berekley coders. Dog used to bark whenever the mailman came. -- Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://kinz.org http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA.

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] xbiff

by Charles R. Anderson

On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:07:18AM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: > replacement? hmm - my email clients seem to let me know without extra > features. Hey Phro, do you still maintain PhroMail ;-)

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] xbiff

by Jeff Kinz

On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 08:49:38AM -0500, Martin, Eric J. wrote: > what's xbiff? "biff": name of the pet dog of one of the original (1970-190's) coders. Dog used to bark whenever the mailman came. Program created to announce when you got email was named after that "biff". Xwindows version of same functionality became "xbiff". replacement? hmm - my email clients seem to let me know without extra features. -- Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://kinz.org http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA.

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Jared Greenwald

Did you get my message about embedded Gentoo? On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:54:39 -0500, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > On Sunday 30 January 2005 09:47 pm, Jared Greenwald wrote: > > The answer to all of these questions is one simple word: Gentoo. > > i dont think that's the answer he was looking for though ;) > -mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 31, 2005

RE: [Wlug] xbiff

by Martin, Eric J.

what's xbiff? -----Original Message----- From: Bill Mills-Curran [mailto:bill@mills-curran.net] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:47 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] xbiff Now that xbiff is gone (not in fc3), what's a good replacement? I've gotten a lot of good use out of xbiff & use it to notify me about a number of things. I'm surprised it's gone, but I guess it's time to move on. Suggestions? Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 31, 2005

xbiff

by Bill Mills-Curran

Now that xbiff is gone (not in fc3), what's a good replacement? I've gotten a lot of good use out of xbiff & use it to notify me about a number of things. I'm surprised it's gone, but I guess it's time to move on. Suggestions? Thanks, Bill

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Adam Keck

Matt, > 2. Is it possible to not use any package group at all and simply > select the packages I want ? In this case I would just list out all > the rpms in the @core group and thats it .. possibly some extras. > Assuming you have a machine to play with this is an easy experiment to do. Do a "minimal" install and then harvest the kickstart file from /~root and save a list of the installed packages. Delete all the packages at the end of the kickstart file then list only the ones you want. Try an install with the new kickstart file. One of two things will happen depending what flags you have in the kickstart. Either the installer will autoselect any dependencies you are missing or the install will fail on missing dependencies. If your kickstart file is configured for the first option you can compare the package list on the new install to the "minimal" configuration package list. If the package lists are nearly the same then the minimal install is truly minimal and you are stuck with ~500mb. If the package list is smaller then you will be closer to a your goal. My guess is that RedHat chose the "base" and "core" nomenclature for a reason. Every other package depends on those packages. Good luck! -Adam

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Matt Higgins

As I said in my 1st message FC is a requirement. I have no choice. On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:54:39 -0500, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > On Sunday 30 January 2005 09:47 pm, Jared Greenwald wrote: > > The answer to all of these questions is one simple word: Gentoo. > > i dont think that's the answer he was looking for though ;) > -mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 31, 2005