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Seeking Linux distribution in Korean language

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, I have a Korean colleague who is seeking a Linux distribution in Korean. Does anybody have any recommendations? Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFTQ/PHl0iXDssISsRAs0IAJ42SoFH8hKXYXz10kxL3mcDae4n5ACfaBvU LxH0mMf4O5QsX/xtpG7inrE= =KtbQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Nov. 4, 2006

REMINDER: Meeting next week (Wed Nov 8)

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Wednesday, November 8th, at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. We don't currently have a speaker for this meeting. Are there any volunteers? If not, I could try to give a talk about the Smart Package Manager, which (thanks to Greg Avedissian) I have been using on my laptop for a month or two. If other folks know more about this than I know, it could turn into a discussion where we could all learn something new. I'm not sure that there's enough here to take up a full meeting, but it would certainly get us started. Let me know if this is of interest. Naturally, we'll adjourn to the Tech Pizza restaurant after the meeting for more socializing. See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFSDJnHl0iXDssISsRAqJLAJ4zWtyWkIhkw85iql4sk/RNM/ZQdQCfURPr 5eIuTI47jNEPQJfY+nwsyHw= =pZud -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Nov. 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Exim and Spam Filtering

by Richard Klein

Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 08:26:58AM -0400, Michael Zarozinski wrote: >> Can anyone recommend a good Spam filter that hooks into the Exim MTA? >> I'm looking for something that is updated regularly but doesn't require >> much of my time. > > I know nothing about Exim, but something that interfaces it to SpamAssassin > would be good. I am biased about that, of course. :) Same here. I don't use Exim, but I do use SpamAssassin and am pretty happy with it. I've also heard that CRM-114 works very well, but is difficult to set up. The author lives in Acton, is very active on a local motorcyclist email list, has done welding for me in exchange for beer, and appeared on a couple seasons of Junkyard Wars (Crash of the New England Rubbish Deconstructionists). So maybe I can't recommend CRM-114, but I can certainly recommend the author. :) -- Rich

Oct. 27, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Exim and Spam Filtering

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 08:26:58AM -0400, Michael Zarozinski wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good Spam filter that hooks into the Exim MTA? > I'm looking for something that is updated regularly but doesn't require > much of my time. I know nothing about Exim, but something that interfaces it to SpamAssassin would be good. I am biased about that, of course. :) -- Randomly Selected Tagline: "Snakes have no arms. That's why they don't wear vests." - Bob Lazarus

Oct. 27, 2006

Exim and Spam Filtering

by Michael Zarozinski

Hi all, Can anyone recommend a good Spam filter that hooks into the Exim MTA? I'm looking for something that is updated regularly but doesn't require much of my time. Thanx in Advance, Michael Z

Oct. 27, 2006

Not A Lixnux Question, But

by Mims Research

Hi all, My organization is considering submitting an application to the FCC for a non-commercial full power radio station. An FCC window for applications will open sometime in early 2007. I need an engineer who has the resources and willingness to help us with this. I know there is mapping of spectrum involved and I know we must submit engineering data to the FCC with our application. I just don't know any engineers who can do this, so I thought I'd toss it out here. Our agency is a non-profit PEG station located in Athol, Massachusetts. We need to find alternatives to communications because the future of cable access television is constantly in jeopardy. I can explain more if you like. Any resources you might be able to offer would be great. We do have a small stipend we can offer, so it's not a totally freebie job. But we really do need someone who knows how to do *this* and who would be willing to guide us through the process. Thanks for your ideas, Marie MacDonald Athol, Mass. mimsresearch(a)gmail.com

Oct. 20, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Xandros/Debian newbie question

by Gregory Avedissian

Andrew Perry wrote: > Xandros warns you against selecting any other > repository other than their own, yet I > (recklessly?)selected the "unsupprted debian site" as > a second repository- but with no luck - still no > gcompris and few choices. I wonder if I'm doing > something wrong. > Did you update your list after adding another repository? I don't know Xandros, but in Debian, it would be 'apt-get update'. If you're using a graphical package manager, such as Synaptic, there should be a button or menu choice to update (not to be confused with 'upgrade') Greg

Oct. 16, 2006

Xandros/Debian newbie question

by Andrew Perry

Being a trusting fellow and having faith in Tux magazine in particular, I decided to spend $60 on Xandros 4 Desktop Linux, based on a review in the Septmeber issue. >From the review it appeared that Xandros was like a better version of Freespire/Linspire: even more useful software like RealPlayer out of the box, better documentation and support, and at least as easy to ise. Whatever software wasn't included directly in the distro, I figured, would be available with one or two clicks from Xandros networks- or at least from Debian. Problem is, there seems to be very little software available from Xandros networks (maybe 50 packages), and my 4 year old daughter's favorite software gcompris is not available. (By the way, she's going to get her own computer soon, and she says she would never run Windows, only Linux.) Xandros warns you against selecting any other repository other than their own, yet I (recklessly?)selected the "unsupprted debian site" as a second repository- but with no luck - still no gcompris and few choices. I wonder if I'm doing something wrong. Any ideas ? (Thanks in advance. You guys are great!) -Dr. Andrew B. Perry Assistant Prof. of Mathematics, Springfield College 263 Alden St., Springfield MA 01109 Work Phone (413)748-3193

Oct. 15, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Truecrypt and Backups

by John Stoffel

Mike> A) I was curious if anyone is or has use(d) the truecrypt file Mike> system (truecrypt.org) If so do you have any recommendations or Mike> possible alternatives. I am thinking of using truecrypt for a Mike> partition on a USB thumb drive. I'm using it on a pair of thumbdrives on a laptop running WinXP. Haven't actually set it up under Linux yet. This was mostly to keep personal data private. So far, I've been happy with it, though I admit I don't use it all that much really. Mostly when travelling really. Mike> B) Backups -- Giving finite resources/knowledge what software do Mike> people use to do full backups? Simple is better. And drive Mike> images are an option. I'm actually proxying this question for Mike> someone not on this list. I find bacula to be pretty good for this. It will do DVDs, disks, tape as the backup media. It will even build rescue disks for system restores as well. Though that needs more testing. http://www.bacula.org

Oct. 12, 2006

Thanks Frank and Chuck

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Thanks again Frank and Chuck for opening the Access Grid Room early last night and helping me set up. Doug

Oct. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Please attend this Wednesday's WLUG, and bring your friends

by Joe Riopel

> Thanks for the talk tonight. I had mentioned to you a tool named Ant. I > figured I'd follow up and give you some more info. > > Ant can be found at: http://ant.apache.org/ For any mono/.NET developers, there is NAnt, which is very similar to Ant. http://nant.sourceforge.net/

Oct. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Wednesday's WLUG - noob question on XML editor

by Joe Riopel

> My question is: what's your favorite editor for XML? The built in Netbeans XML editor is pretty nice. You'd have to install Netbeans, afaik, but it's free.

Oct. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Truecrypt and Backups

by Frank Sweetser

On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 10:15:11PM -0400, Mike wrote: > B) Backups -- Giving finite resources/knowledge what software do people > use to do full backups? Simple is better. And drive images are an option. > I'm actually proxying this question for someone not on this list. My personal reccomendation these days for backups is bacula. http://www.bacula.org/ It currently supports backing up to files and tapes, with encryption and DVD backups in the current beta version (soon to be the released version). -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Oct. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Please attend this Wednesday's WLUG, and bring your friends

by Mike

Doug, Thanks for the talk tonight. I had mentioned to you a tool named Ant. I figured I'd follow up and give you some more info. Ant can be found at: http://ant.apache.org/ As I had mentioned Ant has some similarities to 'make'. Here is an example of an build.xml file that can perform an XML Transformation. <project default="transform"> <target name="init"> <input message="Input XML: " addproperty="input"/> <input message="Output XML: " addproperty="output"/> <input message="Style: " addproperty="style"/> </target> <target name="transform" depends="init"> <echo message="Transforming ${input} to ${output} with ${style}"/> <xslt style="${style}" in="${input}" out="${output}"/> </target> </project> Hope that is useful. Cheers, Mike <quote who="douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com"> > Hi All: > > Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm working hard to make my preso at > this Wednesday's WLUG meeting (October 11) interesting, informative, > innovative. Something different, without being annoying. > > Bring any of your friends that might be interested in data visualization, > web design, XML, SVG, etc. > > During the preso, interrupt me with questions as much as you want, and > make a mental note where my presentation isn't clear or drags. I'm hoping > to get as much feedback as possible so that the next time I present this > topic it will be better. > > Thanks, > Doug_______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security --Ben Franklin

Oct. 12, 2006

Truecrypt and Backups

by Mike

Hi there, These two topics are completely unrelated. I was going to mention this tonight but it slipped my mind... A) I was curious if anyone is or has use(d) the truecrypt file system (truecrypt.org) If so do you have any recommendations or possible alternatives. I am thinking of using truecrypt for a partition on a USB thumb drive. B) Backups -- Giving finite resources/knowledge what software do people use to do full backups? Simple is better. And drive images are an option. I'm actually proxying this question for someone not on this list. Any insight is useful. Thanks, Mike -- They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security --Ben Franklin

Oct. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Looking for a new system

by Jamie Guinan

On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, John Stoffel wrote: > >>>>> "Jamie" == Jamie Guinan <guinan(a)bluebutton.com> writes: > > Jamie> I've built a few PCs over the past few years, so I can share > Jamie> some experiences. > > Jamie> #3: AMD64 x2, Tyan motherboard with NVidia chipset, > Jamie> Coolermaster Centurion case. This is my main system these > Jamie> days, it runs quiet, and I'm happy with every part of it. > Jamie> Wattage numbers: > > How good is the video? Do you need the NV proprietary kernel module? > I'm really just interested in great 2-D graphics, with some 3-d, but I > don't play games much at all these days, so I don't care. Mostly, I'm > looking for clear crisp text. Its marketed as a server board, so it has cheap onboard ATI video, but I found the quality was not crisp at all (probably meant for use as a console and not much else). http://www.tyan.com/PRODUCTS/html/tomcatk8e_anrf.html But I do play games enough to want decent 3D (quake2, X-Plane), so I put in a fanless NVidia 6200, and use the evil Nvidia module. Incidentally, I've had much better luck with the evil Nvidia module than the evil ATI module, which gave me no end of lockups. The NV *chipset* soldered onto the Tyan provides IDE, audio, ethernet, and so on, and all that stuff is supported by in-kernel (GPL) drivers. Except maybe the NVRAID, which I wouldn't use anyway. It will be interesting to see where AMD goes with their acquisition of ATI. -Jamie

Oct. 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] need to test notebook

by Gregory Avedissian

> Gregory Avedissian wrote: >> >> AC adapter for a Dell Inspiron 18000 Richard Klein wrote: > > Are you sure that's the right model number? I've got an Inspiron 8200, > and I bet you're talking about an Inspiron 8100. If that's the case, > then you can try it out with my AC adapter. Rich, The correct model number is 8000. According to the first link you provided, the adapter will work. I'll bring the notebook to the meeting tonight. Many thanks for your help. Andy Stewart wrote: > > Do you happen to know the voltage that the laptop wants to see? > According to the ad for the replacement part, the adapter puts out 20V. If there are cheaper replacements, that would be helpful. Thanks, guys, Greg

Oct. 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] need to test notebook

by Richard Klein

Gregory Avedissian wrote: > A friend of mine just got a used notebook computer, but it has no AC > adapter, and the battery is dead. He'd like to test it out before he > invests any significant money into it. I'm wondering if anyone has an AC > adapter for a Dell Inspiron 18000 and would be willing to bring it to the > meeting, so we can see if this thing will fire up. And does anyone know of > a good place to get used parts locally (like an AC adapter)? Are you sure that's the right model number? I've got an Inspiron 8200, and I bet you're talking about an Inspiron 8100. If that's the case, then you can try it out with my AC adapter. If that works, he'll be looking for one of these: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19… or http://tinyurl.com/p6tpa If your friend can find a "service tag" number he can find a lot of information about how the laptop was configured when sold: http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/my_systems_info/… or http://tinyurl.com/3qzsp That doesn't have anything to do with the AC adapter; it's just nice to know. -- Rich

Oct. 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] need to test notebook

by Stephen C. Daukas

Andy, You aren't going to do your X-Men thing again, are you? ;-) Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org > [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:57 PM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [Wlug] need to test notebook > > Greg, > > Do you happen to know the voltage that the laptop wants to see? > > Later, > > Andy

Oct. 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] need to test notebook

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Gregory Avedissian wrote: > A friend of mine just got a used notebook computer, but it has no AC > adapter, and the battery is dead. He'd like to test it out before he > invests any significant money into it. I'm wondering if anyone has an AC > adapter for a Dell Inspiron 18000 and would be willing to bring it to the > meeting, so we can see if this thing will fire up. And does anyone know of > a good place to get used parts locally (like an AC adapter)? > > > Thanks, > Greg Greg, Do you happen to know the voltage that the laptop wants to see? Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFLGuHHl0iXDssISsRAhKMAJ4r0MYs2m3mlZtB2Z3LeaT6lUb/1ACfZJnC zemHQxtnfY7lhfA5GiMgxUc= =0hzM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Oct. 11, 2006

need to test notebook

by Gregory Avedissian

A friend of mine just got a used notebook computer, but it has no AC adapter, and the battery is dead. He'd like to test it out before he invests any significant money into it. I'm wondering if anyone has an AC adapter for a Dell Inspiron 18000 and would be willing to bring it to the meeting, so we can see if this thing will fire up. And does anyone know of a good place to get used parts locally (like an AC adapter)? Thanks, Greg

Oct. 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] noob question on Altova XMLSpy

by Lee Keyser-Allen

Unfortunately, not. I saw the call out, and forgot that I should be looking for Linux centric solutions ... I do all my development under Windows (hangs head in shame), for the most part, these days, so that was the route I sent you on. I hope that you are able to make use of it ... if not, let me know what other routes you were able to persue. Best of Luck, Lee On 10/10/06, d.maly(a)ieee.org <d_maly(a)charter.net> wrote: > I'm trying to install Altova XMLSpy, following instructions at > http://www.altova.com/support_platform_linux.html > > and saw the comment: > "Copy the complete 2006 Relewase 4 installation directory from Windows > to the Linux partition (this avoids any installer-related issues); this > should be an installation where you have already requested/purchased and > entered a key-code, because the key-code request mechanism doesn't > currently work under WINE." > > so I guess I follow the rules and enter the key-code I have in hand > using Windows to enter the key-code, then "Copy the complete 2006 ..." > etc etc > > Any better ideas? > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Lee Keyser-Allen (lkeyser(a)alum.wpi.edu)

Oct. 10, 2006

noob question on Altova XMLSpy

by d.maly＠ieee.org

I'm trying to install Altova XMLSpy, following instructions at http://www.altova.com/support_platform_linux.html and saw the comment: "Copy the complete 2006 Relewase 4 installation directory from Windows to the Linux partition (this avoids any installer-related issues); this should be an installation where you have already requested/purchased and entered a key-code, because the key-code request mechanism doesn’t currently work under WINE." so I guess I follow the rules and enter the key-code I have in hand using Windows to enter the key-code, then "Copy the complete 2006 ..." etc etc Any better ideas? Doug

Oct. 10, 2006

REMINDER: WLUG Meeting THIS WED Oct 11th 7PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, This is a friendly reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held THIS WED Oct 11th, 7:00 PM in the Access Grid Room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. At this meeting, our guest speaker will be WLUG member Doug Aker. The topic will be Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG). === Abstract === How an average programmer, after discovering SVG, used zLinux, perl, XML, XSLT, HTML, JavaScript and, above all, SVG to create an interactive browser-based application to visualize client-server connections. See how Doug's odyssey into open languages led him through the lands of information theory, graph theory, set theory and data visualization. Find out why his wife and kids run out of the room whenever he starts talking about SVG. Like you, Doug has sat and snoozed through many slide presentations, and vows *not* to make this yet another PowerPoint-like affair. Please attend. Doug is comfortable with large crowds. Doug Aker has been doing application and tech support work at Verizon Communications for 21 years. ===End Abstract === After the meeting, we'll adjourn to the Tech Pizza restaurant on Highland Street for pizza, soda, and more tech talk! See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFKs4KHl0iXDssISsRApjZAJ9zxYHgGCEfMk3ozZerjjhFfS4urwCeKpZs CjXBYXwgh7QZRp9LbdDXM9Q= =rzwB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Oct. 9, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Wednesday's WLUG - noob question on XML editor

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Hi Doug, My efforts with XML have involved XML generation (using perl programs) and XML transformations (using xsltproc). I haven't had much experience with a manually operated XML editor. I did like the free pspad program a lot though: www.pspad.com. Also, on Suse Linux there's the KXML editor. Doug "d.maly(a)ieee.org" <d_maly(a)charter.net> Sent by: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org 10/07/2006 12:41 PM Please respond to "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> To wlug(a)mail.wlug.org cc Subject Re: [Wlug] Wednesday's WLUG - noob question on XML editor This stuff is new to me, so wanted to dabble a bit before the meeting. My question is: what's your favorite editor for XML? My past experience with HTML has been with Mozilla editors in Windows, and I find them to be adequate (and free). Thanks, Doug Maly > Hi All: > > Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm working hard to make my preso at > this Wednesday's WLUG meeting (October 11) interesting, informative, > innovative. Something different, without being annoying. > > Bring any of your friends that might be interested in data visualization, > web design, XML, SVG, etc. > > During the preso, interrupt me with questions as much as you want, and > make a mental note where my presentation isn't clear or drags. I'm hoping > to get as much feedback as possible so that the next time I present this > topic it will be better. > > Thanks, > Doug > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20061006/0cbce3e5/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 36, Issue 2 > *********************************** > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 9, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Wednesday's WLUG - noob question on XML editor

by Lee Keyser-Allen

I found a phenomenal one called the Altova XML Suite which has a free 'home' version (which I've not played with). The version I used was the enterprise one, and it did everything I wanted in an editor, including giving me lots of graphical feedback and it managed schemas and stylesheets in a clean and well organized blend of graphical interpretations and text. The non-free version, however, is very non-free (~$1000 for the 'pro' suite and ~$1800 for the 'enterprise' suite.) I've also used, with some good success, Architag XRay XML editor which had a very good, entirely text based suite that was free. I did have problems that some of the more quirky and poorly defined parts of the schema I was writing worked differently in XRay's native interpreter than in Xerces (or was it Xalan ... it was a little while ago), which I was using to do some validation. I've also heard that oXygen is supposed to be good (although, they didn't have a demo last I looked, so I haven't looked any closer than that.) I'm very interested if others have had good experience with any free (or less non-free) tools. You can find out more about Altova at www.altova.com. Hope that is somewhat helpful ... Lee On 10/7/06, d.maly(a)ieee.org <d_maly(a)charter.net> wrote: > This stuff is new to me, so wanted to dabble a bit before the meeting. > > My question is: what's your favorite editor for XML? > > My past experience with HTML has been with Mozilla editors in Windows, > and I find them to be adequate (and free). > > Thanks, > Doug Maly > > Hi All: > > > > Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm working hard to make my preso at > > this Wednesday's WLUG meeting (October 11) interesting, informative, > > innovative. Something different, without being annoying. > > > > Bring any of your friends that might be interested in data visualization, > > web design, XML, SVG, etc. > > > > During the preso, interrupt me with questions as much as you want, and > > make a mental note where my presentation isn't clear or drags. I'm hoping > > to get as much feedback as possible so that the next time I present this > > topic it will be better. > > > > Thanks, > > Doug > >

Oct. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Wednesday's WLUG - noob question on XML editor

by d.maly＠ieee.org

This stuff is new to me, so wanted to dabble a bit before the meeting. My question is: what's your favorite editor for XML? My past experience with HTML has been with Mozilla editors in Windows, and I find them to be adequate (and free). Thanks, Doug Maly > Hi All: > > Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm working hard to make my preso at > this Wednesday's WLUG meeting (October 11) interesting, informative, > innovative. Something different, without being annoying. > > Bring any of your friends that might be interested in data visualization, > web design, XML, SVG, etc. > > During the preso, interrupt me with questions as much as you want, and > make a mental note where my presentation isn't clear or drags. I'm hoping > to get as much feedback as possible so that the next time I present this > topic it will be better. > > Thanks, > Doug >

Oct. 7, 2006

Please attend this Wednesday's WLUG, and bring your friends

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Hi All: Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm working hard to make my preso at this Wednesday's WLUG meeting (October 11) interesting, informative, innovative. Something different, without being annoying. Bring any of your friends that might be interested in data visualization, web design, XML, SVG, etc. During the preso, interrupt me with questions as much as you want, and make a mental note where my presentation isn't clear or drags. I'm hoping to get as much feedback as possible so that the next time I present this topic it will be better. Thanks, Doug

Oct. 6, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Allowing a Ubuntu workstation access to a Windows Domain

by Karl Hiramoto

Chuck Noyes wrote: > Hi All > > Can anyone point me to a link that shows me how to allow a ubuntu > machine, running "dapper" to log on to a Windows Domain and be > authenticated by the domain controller? > > Thanks,-Chuck > I suspect you want a PAM login something like: http://pamsmb.sourceforge.net/ I have never tried it, only read about it.. -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/

Oct. 5, 2006

Allowing a Ubuntu workstation access to a Windows Domain

by Chuck Noyes

Hi All Can anyone point me to a link that shows me how to allow a ubuntu machine, running "dapper" to log on to a Windows Domain and be authenticated by the domain controller? Thanks, -Chuck

Oct. 5, 2006

[JOB] Red Hat Linux System Administrator Contractor Services.

by Shannon Scott

I apologize if this content is not accepted on the list. Scope: Weekly Red Hat Patch Management Server Maintenance Emergency Support Configure New Email fail-over system. Location of Servers: North East Data Vault (NEDV), Marlborough, Massachusetts Company: Location, Inc. Requirement: Any respondent to this Proposal Request must have at least two experienced Red Hat Linux System Administrators to provide back-up coverage for each other. Location, Inc. is actively seeking Red Hat Linux System Administrator Services to perform: 1. Weekly patch management updates for the Company's five servers located at NEDV in Marlborough, Massachusetts. The servers are currently configured with Linux Red Hat Enterprise. The System Administrator will perform updates through the Red Hat Network (http://www.redhat.com/software/rhn/) <http://www.redhat.com/software/rhn/) > The System Administrator will alert Company when upgrades or critical patches to Company's operating systems or layered products become available. Based on the System Administrator's knowledge of the stability, necessity, and/or practicability of the upgrade, System Administrator will offer recommendations via email that may benefit Company's systems. Upgrades and patches will be performed weekly upon Company's acknowledgment and acceptance of the System Administrator's recommendation to proceed. The System Administrator will follow up with a confirmation email indicating successful deployment. Occasional (every other month) on-site inspection of server stack is required (red lights blinking, cords secure, etc.). Network Administrator Time budget for Weekly Patch Management: 2 hours/month@$x/hrs = Total monthly for Patch Management: $ 2. Technical Support Services. Company will have access to System Administrator's technical support staff via a single 24x7 phone number. An email address will also be provided for routine, scheduled and emergency technical support requests. Technical Support Services will be provided on an "as-needed" on-call basis. Standard Scheduled Support Requests $x/hr Emergency Support Requests Normal working hours (Mon - Fri; __am - __pm) $x/hr Scheduled Off Hours $x/hr Company would prefer Emergency response time on the order of one hour. Acknowledgment of response request in 15 minutes. 3. Email fail-over. Company currently has a single email server, and needs to have an Email fail-over system implemented to provide Company with the ability to switch over and continue to send and receive emails to customers and other parties in the event that the email server fails to operate at any time. This Email fail-over system implementation is a one-time project. TO RESPOND: Kindly submit your bid for this work by simply filling in this RFP with your specific rates. For the email fail-over project portion, please provide a breakout of costs and detailed scope for implementation. Specify emergency response time to which your firm can commit. Include resumes for the primary and back-up Red Hat System Administrators that would be actively managing our servers, billing terms, and contact information for 2 references that are current Linux support clients of yours. Send Proposals to: aschiller(a)locationinc.com and sscott(a)locationinc.com Questions? (401) 766-3227

Sept. 29, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Looking for a new system

by Jim Dibb

The actual power draw of this system is less than a 3-way lightbulb on full bright? Call me shocked... Rather than hibernating my PC at night I should get my 4 year old to sleep with her light off... (yes I run XP on the machine in question). On 9/27/06, Jamie Guinan <guinan(a)bluebutton.com> wrote: > > #3: AMD64 x2, Tyan motherboard with NVidia chipset, Coolermaster > Centurion case. This is my main system these days, it runs quiet, > and I'm happy with every part of it. Wattage numbers: > > [model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+] > Off:4W > linux (idle):81W > 1 core spinning: 112W > 2 cores spinning: 145W > >

Sept. 28, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Looking for a new system

by Adam Keck

Also, AMD is sells low wattage Semprons. <http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=SDD3000IAA3CN> With sufficient heat sinking, large slow fans, and some sound insulation, you could make a very quiet, cheap mid tower. I am not sure where one would get one though. On the other hand, if you replace the mini-pc in the "bling" solution with a used pentium M laptop with firewire, you can connect the Lacie drives with firewire and buy a Linux-supported SCSI PCMCIA card for the tape drive. ;-) -Adam On 9/28/06, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Jamie" == Jamie Guinan <guinan(a)bluebutton.com> writes: > > Jamie> I've built a few PCs over the past few years, so I can share > Jamie> some experiences. > > Jamie> #3: AMD64 x2, Tyan motherboard with NVidia chipset, > Jamie> Coolermaster Centurion case. This is my main system these > Jamie> days, it runs quiet, and I'm happy with every part of it. > Jamie> Wattage numbers: > > How good is the video? Do you need the NV proprietary kernel module? > I'm really just interested in great 2-D graphics, with some 3-d, but I > don't play games much at all these days, so I don't care. Mostly, I'm > looking for clear crisp text. > > The AMDs just rock. > > Jamie> The VIAs are seductive, but when I looked harder at them, they > Jamie> either required small (=noisy) fans, > > Jamie> http://mini-itx.com/news/images/story0386-05L.jpg > > Jamie> or ridiculous heatsinking to run fanless, > > Jamie> http://www2.multithread.co.uk/images/en12000e_alt1_large.jpg > > Jamie> So I would avoid them. > > True, but they are tempting just from the size/power constraint, plus > they usually have a couple of PCI slots and built-in video... > > Jamie> For server purposes, it sounds like reusing your existing Dell > Jamie> box is ideal. I still have my former main desktop (2x Celeron > Jamie> 466) running my internal web server, Postgresql, etc. > > I'm starting to think that this is the way to go really. And I think > I could even stuff the DLT drive into the box, to make it even > smaller. > > Jamie> For the desktop, if I were building a new system today, I would > Jamie> look into the Intel core2/double/duo/whatever, retail packaging > Jamie> for the nice quiet Intel fan, and a mobo with an Intel graphics > Jamie> chipset. The core/foo's run lower wattage than recent AMDs (I > Jamie> hear), the Intel graphics are decent for 3D stuff, and the GPU > Jamie> drivers are open source. No dealing with ATI/NVidia driver > Jamie> madness. > > I dunno... I like the AMD opterons we have here at work, but it's not > really that big a deal I guess. Which ever has the best > price/power/cost metric. > > Now the Intel graphics are nice, if only because the specs are > available, and I certainly don't need super-duper graphics. My Matrox > G450 still does a nice job for what I want it to do. > > Thanks for the hints. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- -Adam

Sept. 28, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Looking for a new system

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Jamie" == Jamie Guinan <guinan(a)bluebutton.com> writes: Jamie> I've built a few PCs over the past few years, so I can share Jamie> some experiences. Jamie> #3: AMD64 x2, Tyan motherboard with NVidia chipset, Jamie> Coolermaster Centurion case. This is my main system these Jamie> days, it runs quiet, and I'm happy with every part of it. Jamie> Wattage numbers: How good is the video? Do you need the NV proprietary kernel module? I'm really just interested in great 2-D graphics, with some 3-d, but I don't play games much at all these days, so I don't care. Mostly, I'm looking for clear crisp text. The AMDs just rock. Jamie> The VIAs are seductive, but when I looked harder at them, they Jamie> either required small (=noisy) fans, Jamie> http://mini-itx.com/news/images/story0386-05L.jpg Jamie> or ridiculous heatsinking to run fanless, Jamie> http://www2.multithread.co.uk/images/en12000e_alt1_large.jpg Jamie> So I would avoid them. True, but they are tempting just from the size/power constraint, plus they usually have a couple of PCI slots and built-in video... Jamie> For server purposes, it sounds like reusing your existing Dell Jamie> box is ideal. I still have my former main desktop (2x Celeron Jamie> 466) running my internal web server, Postgresql, etc. I'm starting to think that this is the way to go really. And I think I could even stuff the DLT drive into the box, to make it even smaller. Jamie> For the desktop, if I were building a new system today, I would Jamie> look into the Intel core2/double/duo/whatever, retail packaging Jamie> for the nice quiet Intel fan, and a mobo with an Intel graphics Jamie> chipset. The core/foo's run lower wattage than recent AMDs (I Jamie> hear), the Intel graphics are decent for 3D stuff, and the GPU Jamie> drivers are open source. No dealing with ATI/NVidia driver Jamie> madness. I dunno... I like the AMD opterons we have here at work, but it's not really that big a deal I guess. Which ever has the best price/power/cost metric. Now the Intel graphics are nice, if only because the specs are available, and I certainly don't need super-duper graphics. My Matrox G450 still does a nice job for what I want it to do. Thanks for the hints. John

Sept. 28, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Looking for a new system

by John Stoffel

Adam> The small, blingy, cost-is-no-object solution ;-) : Adam> <http://www.cappuccinopc.com/pandora-945.asp> Cute, too small for a file server. Adam> sitting on top of Adam> 2x <http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10727> Adam> mounted via firewire and mirrored with md, and Adam> <http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/subpages/firerex1.html> Adam> to handle the tape drive (unless it's internal :-/). Now this is just a sick sick sick device, but no mention of linux compatibility at all, so I'd be *very* hesitant to try and run this. Also, my DLT drive is a 68pin SCSI connnector, luckily I think I have a 68->50 adapter. But I'll pass and let someone else go this route. :] It is a funcy solution. Adam> Realistically though, a few of my friends have had good noise Adam> levels and reliability putting the fanless VIA kit into a larger Adam> case with slow large fans or no fans at all. In that case, the Adam> noisiest and hottest bits will be the drives. Yeah, the tape drive and it's fan (it's an external drive) will probably be the loudest part of it all if I'm careful. Thanks for the ideas...

Sept. 28, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Looking for a new system

by Adam Keck

The small, blingy, cost-is-no-object solution ;-) : <http://www.cappuccinopc.com/pandora-945.asp> sitting on top of 2x <http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10727> mounted via firewire and mirrored with md, and <http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/subpages/firerex1.html> to handle the tape drive (unless it's internal :-/). The Core Duo includes speedstep so it should keep the power usage down. ------------- Realistically though, a few of my friends have had good noise levels and reliability putting the fanless VIA kit into a larger case with slow large fans or no fans at all. In that case, the noisiest and hottest bits will be the drives. -Adam On 9/27/06, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Guys, > > I've been looking around for a new system at home, basically to act as > a file server (NFS, Samba) and backup server using Bacula. It also > needs to run http and mysql and other daemons as needed. > > I'd like to get at least a pair of 250gb drives to mirror them for > storage, with LVM volumes on top. And of course room for expansion to > another pair of drives down the line. > > But I'd like it smallish and quiet as well. Oh yeah, it needs to have > a PCI slot for a SCSI controller, since my tape drive is SCSI for > backups. > > Desires: > > - small > - cheap > - quiet > - low power > - boots without a keyboard/mouse needed at all > - onboard video (don't really need it at all) > - PCI slots for expansion > - four 3.5" drive bays internally > - SATA ports on board > - AMD or VIA EPIA > - 1Gb of RAM or more. > > I've looked at the Via EPIA style systems. Just not sure if they have > enough oomph for what I want. > > The other thought is to just take my old Dell Precision dual cpu Xeon > 550mhz box and make that my main server, holding all my data, etc. > It's got the drive bays, and PCI slots and scsi controller all in > there already. I could add in some SATA controllers for the new disks > without a problem. And it would continue to hold my ISA 8-port serial > card. And it's got the memory for what it would be doing pretty much > as well. > > Then I'd just get a new system for my desktop with a much smaller disk > drive. > > Systems I've looked at: > > - bare bones AMD x2 on ebay. > - VIA Epia Nanoscale dual CPU box > http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7109201579.html > - buying a dell from their closeouts > > > Any comments? > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- -Adam

Sept. 28, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Looking for a new system

by Jamie Guinan

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, John Stoffel wrote: > > Guys, > > I've been looking around for a new system at home, basically to act as > a file server (NFS, Samba) and backup server using Bacula. It also > needs to run http and mysql and other daemons as needed. > > I'd like to get at least a pair of 250gb drives to mirror them for > storage, with LVM volumes on top. And of course room for expansion to > another pair of drives down the line. > > But I'd like it smallish and quiet as well. Oh yeah, it needs to have > a PCI slot for a SCSI controller, since my tape drive is SCSI for > backups. > > Desires: > > - small > - cheap > - quiet > - low power > - boots without a keyboard/mouse needed at all > - onboard video (don't really need it at all) > - PCI slots for expansion > - four 3.5" drive bays internally > - SATA ports on board > - AMD or VIA EPIA > - 1Gb of RAM or more. > > I've looked at the Via EPIA style systems. Just not sure if they have > enough oomph for what I want. > > The other thought is to just take my old Dell Precision dual cpu Xeon > 550mhz box and make that my main server, holding all my data, etc. > It's got the drive bays, and PCI slots and scsi controller all in > there already. I could add in some SATA controllers for the new disks > without a problem. And it would continue to hold my ISA 8-port serial > card. And it's got the memory for what it would be doing pretty much > as well. > > Then I'd just get a new system for my desktop with a much smaller disk > drive. > > Systems I've looked at: > > - bare bones AMD x2 on ebay. > - VIA Epia Nanoscale dual CPU box > http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7109201579.html > - buying a dell from their closeouts > > > Any comments? Hi John, I've built a few PCs over the past few years, so I can share some experiences. #1: Built from scratch using a Soyo motherboard, Duron CPU, Powmax micro-ATX case. Cheapest system I could build, and one of the noisiest I've ever owned. The dinky 230W power supply has a cheap noisy fan, and the Duron runs super hot so it needs constant fanning. #2: Antec Aria case, older Intel PIII + Intel mobo. The Aria case is crowded inside in strange ways, making most 3rd-party heatsink/fan solutions impossible. I have a hack solution using some springs to hold it place. The front power switch on the Aria was flaky, causing the unit to power off randomly (I made the "reset" button the power switch as a workaround; the "power" button does nothing, much to my wife's frustration when she tried to power it up to play StepMania). The Aria is mostly plastic and flimsy. Avoid it, despite its smallish size and pretty looks in pictures. But the Intel CPU+mobo is decent and doesn't run too hot. #3: AMD64 x2, Tyan motherboard with NVidia chipset, Coolermaster Centurion case. This is my main system these days, it runs quiet, and I'm happy with every part of it. Wattage numbers: [model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+] Off:4W linux (idle):81W 1 core spinning: 112W 2 cores spinning: 145W Compare to this P4 system, [model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz] off:4W linux (idle): 105W cpu spinning: 167W The VIAs are seductive, but when I looked harder at them, they either required small (=noisy) fans, http://mini-itx.com/news/images/story0386-05L.jpg or ridiculous heatsinking to run fanless, http://www2.multithread.co.uk/images/en12000e_alt1_large.jpg So I would avoid them. For server purposes, it sounds like reusing your existing Dell box is ideal. I still have my former main desktop (2x Celeron 466) running my internal web server, Postgresql, etc. For the desktop, if I were building a new system today, I would look into the Intel core2/double/duo/whatever, retail packaging for the nice quiet Intel fan, and a mobo with an Intel graphics chipset. The core/foo's run lower wattage than recent AMDs (I hear), the Intel graphics are decent for 3D stuff, and the GPU drivers are open source. No dealing with ATI/NVidia driver madness. -Jamie

Sept. 28, 2006

Looking for a new system

by John Stoffel

Guys, I've been looking around for a new system at home, basically to act as a file server (NFS, Samba) and backup server using Bacula. It also needs to run http and mysql and other daemons as needed. I'd like to get at least a pair of 250gb drives to mirror them for storage, with LVM volumes on top. And of course room for expansion to another pair of drives down the line. But I'd like it smallish and quiet as well. Oh yeah, it needs to have a PCI slot for a SCSI controller, since my tape drive is SCSI for backups. Desires: - small - cheap - quiet - low power - boots without a keyboard/mouse needed at all - onboard video (don't really need it at all) - PCI slots for expansion - four 3.5" drive bays internally - SATA ports on board - AMD or VIA EPIA - 1Gb of RAM or more. I've looked at the Via EPIA style systems. Just not sure if they have enough oomph for what I want. The other thought is to just take my old Dell Precision dual cpu Xeon 550mhz box and make that my main server, holding all my data, etc. It's got the drive bays, and PCI slots and scsi controller all in there already. I could add in some SATA controllers for the new disks without a problem. And it would continue to hold my ISA 8-port serial card. And it's got the memory for what it would be doing pretty much as well. Then I'd just get a new system for my desktop with a much smaller disk drive. Systems I've looked at: - bare bones AMD x2 on ebay. - VIA Epia Nanoscale dual CPU box http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7109201579.html - buying a dell from their closeouts Any comments? John

Sept. 27, 2006

Re: [Wlug] shared web/email hosting providers

by Theo Van Dinter

I'll throw out a friend's service: http://www.alienwebshop.com/ I use him for colo services as opposed to managed hosting, but he does that too. :) > > Who are people using for shared web/email hosting? I'm looking for > > IMAP/POP/webmail over SSL (I need all three over SSL), plus light web hosting > > for a vanity domain. (Don't need crypto for the website.) Virtual servers > > seem to be out of my price range, but the shared hosting services > > fit my budget > > (c. $10/month). I've got a slight preference for Debian, but really > > any Linux > > (or BSD) distro is fine. -- Randomly Selected Tagline: "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to understand that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." - Ronald Reagan

Sept. 26, 2006

Re: [Wlug] shared web/email hosting providers

by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com

I use qwk.net. Not as cheap as some others people have recommended but they have excelent service. I believe they handle all of those requirements in their $10/month plan but haven't checked to be sure. I've never checked what linux distro they run as it doesn't matter to me. Quoting Andre Lehovich <andrel(a)yahoo.com>: > Who are people using for shared web/email hosting? I'm looking for > IMAP/POP/webmail over SSL (I need all three over SSL), plus light web hosting > for a vanity domain. (Don't need crypto for the website.) Virtual servers > seem to be out of my price range, but the shared hosting services > fit my budget > (c. $10/month). I've got a slight preference for Debian, but really > any Linux > (or BSD) distro is fine. > > Any recommendations? > > Thanks, > --Andre

Sept. 26, 2006

Re: [Wlug] shared web/email hosting providers

by Adam Keck

http://vpsland.com/ has a Linux VM for $10/m. On the other hand, if you can find two friends to share the cost you can have your own server for $30/m from http://serverpronto.com/ . -Adam On 9/26/06, Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 03:05:27PM -0700, Andre Lehovich wrote: > > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:05:27 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Andre Lehovich <andrel(a)yahoo.com> > > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Subject: [Wlug] shared web/email hosting providers > > Precedence: list > > Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > > > Who are people using for shared web/email hosting? I'm looking for > > IMAP/POP/webmail over SSL (I need all three over SSL), plus light web hosting > > for a vanity domain. (Don't need crypto for the website.) Virtual servers > > seem to be out of my price range, but the shared hosting services fit my budget > > (c. $10/month). I've got a slight preference for Debian, but really any Linux > > (or BSD) distro is fine. > > > > Any recommendations? > > > > Thanks, > > --Andre > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > westhost.com has virtual private servers and static IPs for about > $8/month. Linux systems. Good support. > > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- -Adam

Sept. 26, 2006

Re: [Wlug] shared web/email hosting providers

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 03:05:27PM -0700, Andre Lehovich wrote: > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:05:27 -0700 (PDT) > From: Andre Lehovich <andrel(a)yahoo.com> > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] shared web/email hosting providers > Precedence: list > Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > Who are people using for shared web/email hosting? I'm looking for > IMAP/POP/webmail over SSL (I need all three over SSL), plus light web hosting > for a vanity domain. (Don't need crypto for the website.) Virtual servers > seem to be out of my price range, but the shared hosting services fit my budget > (c. $10/month). I've got a slight preference for Debian, but really any Linux > (or BSD) distro is fine. > > Any recommendations? > > Thanks, > --Andre > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug westhost.com has virtual private servers and static IPs for about $8/month. Linux systems. Good support. Bill

Sept. 26, 2006

Re: [Wlug] shared web/email hosting providers

by Robert Schwein

www.theaardvark.com runs what you want at $6/month. People and businesses who I know use it have never had any complaints. Bob Andre Lehovich wrote: > Who are people using for shared web/email hosting? I'm looking for > IMAP/POP/webmail over SSL (I need all three over SSL), plus light web hosting > for a vanity domain. (Don't need crypto for the website.) Virtual servers > seem to be out of my price range, but the shared hosting services fit my budget > (c. $10/month). I've got a slight preference for Debian, but really any Linux > (or BSD) distro is fine. > > Any recommendations? > > Thanks, > --Andre > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Sept. 26, 2006

Re: [Wlug] shared web/email hosting providers

by Mike Perry

I have been a happy DreamHost customer for a number of years now. They have had a few hiccups over the past few weeks, but for less than 10 bucks a month and the excellent support and service they have given me over the years I can't really complain. They run Debian and provide pretty much every service you'd need including ssh. Their bandwidth and storage is insane even on the low plans. Check out their plans and if you decide to sign up you can punch in "BITBISTRO50OFF" for a $50 discount on any plan. Cheers, Mike On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 15:05 -0700, Andre Lehovich wrote: > Who are people using for shared web/email hosting? I'm looking for > IMAP/POP/webmail over SSL (I need all three over SSL), plus light web hosting > for a vanity domain. (Don't need crypto for the website.) Virtual servers > seem to be out of my price range, but the shared hosting services fit my budget > (c. $10/month). I've got a slight preference for Debian, but really any Linux > (or BSD) distro is fine. > > Any recommendations? > > Thanks, > --Andre > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 26, 2006

shared web/email hosting providers

by Andre Lehovich

Who are people using for shared web/email hosting? I'm looking for IMAP/POP/webmail over SSL (I need all three over SSL), plus light web hosting for a vanity domain. (Don't need crypto for the website.) Virtual servers seem to be out of my price range, but the shared hosting services fit my budget (c. $10/month). I've got a slight preference for Debian, but really any Linux (or BSD) distro is fine. Any recommendations? Thanks, --Andre __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Sept. 25, 2006

Re: [Wlug] newbie question: path

by Brett Russ

On 9/23/06, d.maly(a)ieee.org <d_maly(a)charter.net> wrote: > Should be able to figure this out with a little homework, but can't! > > Can't figure out where I define my "default paths." That is, if I check > the properties of my 'Evolution' icon on my desktop, the Launcher gives > this for the command: "evolution-2.6" > > Presumably, the path for this application is defined in a list of > 'default paths.' How do I change my default paths? Here's how to find out. First, figure out what shell you're using with this cmd from a console or shell window: grep `whoami` /etc/passwd The rightmost executable is the shell you're using. Mine says /bin/bash. So next use this command, substituting your shell: man bash And search for "path" by using the '/' key. What you'll find is that the shell reads system wide default config files located in /etc and then reads config files in your home directory, if present, which can override the system wide settings. In bash, you could override the PATH environment variable by adding a line like this to your ~/.bash_profile file: PATH="$PATH:/my/custom/directory" to add /my/custom/directory to the search path. Note that I put it *after* the system default path. Putting non-standard directories before standard directories is a security risk because a non-priviledged user could put a malicious program in the non-standard directory and it would be found before a legitimate program of the same name in a standard directory. Hope this makes sense, BR

Sept. 24, 2006

newbie question: path

by d.maly＠ieee.org

Should be able to figure this out with a little homework, but can't! Can't figure out where I define my "default paths." That is, if I check the properties of my 'Evolution' icon on my desktop, the Launcher gives this for the command: "evolution-2.6" Presumably, the path for this application is defined in a list of 'default paths.' How do I change my default paths? Thanks in advance, Doug Maly

Sept. 23, 2006

[JOB] PHP/MySQL Coder | Boston, MA | 55-65k

by Michael Pearman

PHP/MySQL Coder | Boston, MA | 55-65k My client is an interactive design agency looking for an experienced PHP/MySQL coder. They've been building and marketing websites since the late 1990's and have hundreds of projects and a wealth of experience under their belt. They work with small, medium and Fortune 1000 companies. They are a Google Adwords Qualified Company, a Yahoo! Search Marketing Ambassador, Executive Members of the Search Engine Marketing Professional Organization, Members of the Massachusetts Innovation & Technology Exchange and the Boston Interactive Media Association. The common focus of my client is to deliver results-oriented solutions that will help business' stand out and grow in today's marketplace. The ideal candidate will have experience implementing PHP web applications with custom MySQL databases. This position will be focused on building: * Custom content management systems * Advanced intranets/extranets * eCommerce implementation * Site updates * Other various PHP applications Job Requirements/Attributes: * High level of skill in PHP, MySQL * eCommerce integration experience * Advanced content management system experience * Takes pride in his/her work * Dedicated * Love of open source development and standards-based development * The ability to finish a project 100% to customer satisfaction * Able to multi-task If you are interested in this position and are a US Citizen and local to the Boston area, please submit your resume, salary requirements, and a paragraph (or two) highlighting your skills/experience as it pertains to this job to mike(a)open-source-staffing.com Thank you, Michael J. Pearman Open Source Staffing www.open-source-staffing.com mike(a)open-source-staffing.com

Sept. 22, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Smart package manager

by Gregory Avedissian

Bill Smith wrote: > Right now, it's been chugging "Updating channels". Any idea how long > that takes, initially? It's been about two hours so far. Considering > that I did a "yum upgrade" yesterday, I wouldn't think there would be a > lot to do, shy of populating a DB or something for Smart to refer to... > That sounds like a long time. I think I sat in front of the computer and watched it the first time, and it only took a little while. I'm on a dsl line. The one thing I wish it had (unless I missed it in the documentation) is a rollback feature that would allow you to undo an update. If it had that, I would have been able to undo the suse 10.1 update that made my keyboard go crazy instead of doing a reinstall. Greg

Sept. 21, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Smart package manager

by Bill Smith

On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 19:26:54 -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: >Those of you who attended the most recent WLUG meeting might remember >me complaining that the version of YaST on OpenSuSE 10.1 has a >pathetically slow program for handling software installation. Greg >Avedissian mentioned the Smart package manager >(http://labix.org/smart) as an alternative, so I gave it a try. > >The Smart package manager appears to be Linux distribution agnostic. >It works on systems whose package management is based on RPM, APT, >APT-RPM, YUM, etc. I went to the page you gave, and was suitably impressed with what they had to say. Enough so, that I promptly installed it on my laptop running FC5. "yum install smart*" was enough to get the things installed that I needed. (Yes, I'm a 'yum' fan. <g>) Right now, it's been chugging "Updating channels". Any idea how long that takes, initially? It's been about two hours so far. Considering that I did a "yum upgrade" yesterday, I wouldn't think there would be a lot to do, shy of populating a DB or something for Smart to refer to... >I tried it on my laptop, where I was having the most performance issues >with YaST's software handling program. I am quite pleased with the >Smart package manager! Thanks, Greg, for the recommendation! I don't know if this is indicative of where Red Hat is going, but the RPM header for Smart, which was generated at Red Hat, describes Smart as "the next generation package manager"... >I haven't yet installed the Smart package manager on my "good" system, >but I probably will if Novell doesn't fix YaST in OpenSuSE 10.2. The >Smart package manager has found a permanent home on my laptop. > >Funding for the development of the Smart package manager is being >supplied by Canonical Ltd., the same folks who are funding Ubuntu >Linux. I thought that was pretty interesting, too. :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "Would that the risks could be as great for those that authorize a war as it is for those that have to fight it." -- William Smith * TAG! v3.2 *

Sept. 20, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Smart package manager

by John Stoffel

Frank> It's worth noting that the version of yum that ships with FC3 Frank> is pretty old, and newer ones are a *lot* faster. Yeah, I'm sure it is. I should think about upgrading at some point...

Sept. 19, 2006

The following may be of interest

by Andrew Robert

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Sept. 19, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Smart package manager

by Frank Sweetser

On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 10:14:08AM -0400, John Stoffel wrote: > This is really interesting. I've been very happy with 'apt-get' on my > Debian box, but I've been totally ticked at how slow 'yum' is on my > Fedora Core 3 box at work. I should probably just rebuild the thing, > but hey, it's my main desktop and working for now. It's worth noting that the version of yum that ships with FC3 is pretty old, and newer ones are a *lot* faster. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Sept. 18, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Smart package manager

by John Stoffel

Andy> Those of you who attended the most recent WLUG meeting might Andy> remember me complaining that the version of YaST on OpenSuSE Andy> 10.1 has a pathetically slow program for handling software Andy> installation. Greg Avedissian mentioned the Smart package Andy> manager (http://labix.org/smart) as an alternative, so I gave it Andy> a try. This is really interesting. I've been very happy with 'apt-get' on my Debian box, but I've been totally ticked at how slow 'yum' is on my Fedora Core 3 box at work. I should probably just rebuild the thing, but hey, it's my main desktop and working for now. But yum is just not a fast too. John

Sept. 18, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Software to use with APC UPS?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Richard Klein wrote: > Andy Stewart wrote: >> HI Rich, >> >> Are you *sure* it didn't create the CGI files, or did it just put them >> somewhere that you didn't expect? >> >> Here is what I found on my version 3.12.4 of the software: >> ./src/cgi/multimon.cgi >> ./src/cgi/upsfstats.cgi >> ./src/cgi/upsimage.cgi >> ./src/cgi/upsstats.cgi >> >> I would try "make distclean; ./configure ... ; make" again. I wouldn't >> do the "make install" until you're sure you have everything you want. > > I couldn't find the CGI files with find. So, I tried again, running > "make" before trying "make install". > > Here are the results: > http://gs750.richardklein.org/cgi-bin/multimon.cgi > Yeah, that looks about right! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFDeQ8Hl0iXDssISsRAp02AJ9snVzjIrbz2yB2UQs6hqqbM3XlEwCcD77e 3fxcg6JVS7/3NwA7mlBPOyk= =FZ8X -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 18, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Software to use with APC UPS?

by Richard Klein

Andy Stewart wrote: > > HI Rich, > > Are you *sure* it didn't create the CGI files, or did it just put them > somewhere that you didn't expect? > > Here is what I found on my version 3.12.4 of the software: > ./src/cgi/multimon.cgi > ./src/cgi/upsfstats.cgi > ./src/cgi/upsimage.cgi > ./src/cgi/upsstats.cgi > > I would try "make distclean; ./configure ... ; make" again. I wouldn't > do the "make install" until you're sure you have everything you want. I couldn't find the CGI files with find. So, I tried again, running "make" before trying "make install". Here are the results: http://gs750.richardklein.org/cgi-bin/multimon.cgi -- Rich

Sept. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Software to use with APC UPS?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Richard Klein wrote: > Andy Stewart wrote: >> I have an APC SmartUPS and I use the apcupsd software. >> >> Try this link: >> http://www.apcupsd.org/ >> >> It has a web interface. I can email you a screenshot if you are >> interested (I didn't want to spam the list with it). > > I tried 'apt-get install apcupsd' and it worked, installing > v3.10.something. I couldn't get apctest to work, though, and the > package didn't include the CGI files I wanted, so I removed it and > downloaded the src for v3.12.4 (stable). I compiled it, and everything > seems to work, but it still didn't create the CGI files. I'm sure I set > the ./configure options correctly, so why didn't it create the CGI files? HI Rich, Are you *sure* it didn't create the CGI files, or did it just put them somewhere that you didn't expect? Here is what I found on my version 3.12.4 of the software: ./src/cgi/multimon.cgi ./src/cgi/upsfstats.cgi ./src/cgi/upsimage.cgi ./src/cgi/upsstats.cgi I would try "make distclean; ./configure ... ; make" again. I wouldn't do the "make install" until you're sure you have everything you want. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFDbpkHl0iXDssISsRAlywAJwO3kmS+XFbF7yOS6oaaEkQObft4gCbBRHO QL1aucSKJDGmYHcj7CUzCAs= =eAQR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Ndiswrapper alternative?

by Mike Frysinger

On Sunday 17 September 2006 14:59, sknaqvi(a)wpi.edu wrote: > Thanks a lot for replying so quickly. I know Intel has released > proprietary source code drivers for my wireless card but compiling it > is such a lot of hassle it needs ieee but my system says ieee is > already installed. chances are you need to remove ieee from the kernel and use the latest ieee release ... that's what i had to do for my intel nic > Ndiswrapper on the other hand is easier to setup. As > for the certificates yes definitely I have downloaded both and linked > them in the conf file. I am pretty sure it is not a driver problem > since the error comes as 'authentication timed out.' The light for Wifi > also blinks frequently when the driver is configured so maybe that also > suggests that the drive is properly installed. i really wouldnt waste time on ndiswrapper ... with the intel drivers for linux, you can get support from them ... -mike

Sept. 17, 2006

Ndiswrapper alternative?

by sknaqvi＠WPI.EDU

Hi every1, Thanks a lot for replying so quickly. I know Intel has released proprietary source code drivers for my wireless card but compiling it is such a lot of hassle it needs ieee but my system says ieee is already installed. Ndiswrapper on the other hand is easier to setup. As for the certificates yes definitely I have downloaded both and linked them in the conf file. I am pretty sure it is not a driver problem since the error comes as 'authentication timed out.' The light for Wifi also blinks frequently when the driver is configured so maybe that also suggests that the drive is properly installed. Its really sad that WPILA has gone down anyone willing to join hands with me to revive it? Again, thanks in advance for helping me out in setting up the wireless. Yours sincerely, S. Kazim Naqvi

Sept. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Software to use with APC UPS?

by Richard Klein

Thanks Chuck! I have hours invested into apcupsd now, though, and I'm determined to make that work. :) -- Rich Chuck Anderson wrote: > "NUT" or Network UPS Tool is an open source UPS daemon you can try. > > http://www.networkupstools.org/ > > On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 09:12:35PM -0400, Richard Klein wrote: >> I've acquired an APC SmartUPS and plugged it into my server that runs >> Debian 3.1 (sarge). The Powerchute disc that came with it says it has >> versions for Red Hat, SuSE, TurboLinux, and a couple other distros, but >> they don't mention Debian. I haven't looked at the contents of the CD >> yet, but I bet there are some interesting alternatives from other >> sources than APC. >> >> What software would you guys suggest I try with the UPS? I don't have X >> installed on the server, so command-line is the way to go, but a web >> interface would be neat!

Sept. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Software to use with APC UPS?

by Richard Klein

Andy Stewart wrote: > > I have an APC SmartUPS and I use the apcupsd software. > > Try this link: > http://www.apcupsd.org/ > > It has a web interface. I can email you a screenshot if you are > interested (I didn't want to spam the list with it). I tried 'apt-get install apcupsd' and it worked, installing v3.10.something. I couldn't get apctest to work, though, and the package didn't include the CGI files I wanted, so I removed it and downloaded the src for v3.12.4 (stable). I compiled it, and everything seems to work, but it still didn't create the CGI files. I'm sure I set the ./configure options correctly, so why didn't it create the CGI files? I typed: ./configure --enable-powerflute --enable-cgi --with-cgi-bin=/var/www/web1/cgi-bin --with-css-dir=/var/www/web1/web --enable-usb --enable-pthreads --disable-dumb --enable-test --with-nis-port=3551 --sbindir=/sbin --with-upstype=usb --with-upscable=usb and then: make install Here's config.out: Configuration on Sun Sep 17 12:53:30 EDT 2006: Host: i686-pc-linux-gnu -- debian 3.1 Apcupsd version: 3.12.4 (19 August 2006) Source code location: . Install binaries: /sbin Install config files: /etc/apcupsd Install man files: /usr/share/man Nologin file in: /etc PID directory: /var/run LOG dir (events, status) /var/log LOCK dir (for serial port) /var/lock Power Fail dir /etc/apcupsd Compiler: /usr/bin/g++ 3.3.5 Compiler flags: -g -O2 -Wall Linker flags: -g -O Host and version: debian 3.1 Shutdown Program: /sbin/shutdown Port/Device: /dev/ttyS0 Network Info Port (CGI): 3551 Master/slave Port: 6544 UPSTYPE usb UPSCABLE usb drivers (no-* are disabled): apcsmart no-dumb no-net usb no-snmp test enable-master-slave: no enable-nis: yes with-nisip: 0.0.0.0 enable-cgi: yes with-cgi-bin: /var/www/web1/cgi-bin with-libwrap: enable-nls: no enable-libintl: no enable-powerflute: yes enable-pthreads: yes enable-dist-install: yes That all looks fine, so I don't know where it went wrong. -- Rich

Sept. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Software to use with APC UPS?

by Chuck Anderson

"NUT" or Network UPS Tool is an open source UPS daemon you can try. http://www.networkupstools.org/ On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 09:12:35PM -0400, Richard Klein wrote: > I've acquired an APC SmartUPS and plugged it into my server that runs > Debian 3.1 (sarge). The Powerchute disc that came with it says it has > versions for Red Hat, SuSE, TurboLinux, and a couple other distros, but > they don't mention Debian. I haven't looked at the contents of the CD > yet, but I bet there are some interesting alternatives from other > sources than APC. > > What software would you guys suggest I try with the UPS? I don't have X > installed on the server, so command-line is the way to go, but a web > interface would be neat!

Sept. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Software to use with APC UPS?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Richard Klein wrote: > I've acquired an APC SmartUPS and plugged it into my server that runs > Debian 3.1 (sarge). The Powerchute disc that came with it says it has > versions for Red Hat, SuSE, TurboLinux, and a couple other distros, but > they don't mention Debian. I haven't looked at the contents of the CD > yet, but I bet there are some interesting alternatives from other > sources than APC. > > What software would you guys suggest I try with the UPS? I don't have X > installed on the server, so command-line is the way to go, but a web > interface would be neat! > HI all, I have an APC SmartUPS and I use the apcupsd software. Try this link: http://www.apcupsd.org/ It has a web interface. I can email you a screenshot if you are interested (I didn't want to spam the list with it). HTH, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFDKRaHl0iXDssISsRAsyKAJ9xM6flD/6trMYT+d/5Vlkucb2ESgCfTIjt QIV/PQ3e0NPcnLLTcYZr82c= =5Sv3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 17, 2006

Software to use with APC UPS?

by Richard Klein

I've acquired an APC SmartUPS and plugged it into my server that runs Debian 3.1 (sarge). The Powerchute disc that came with it says it has versions for Red Hat, SuSE, TurboLinux, and a couple other distros, but they don't mention Debian. I haven't looked at the contents of the CD yet, but I bet there are some interesting alternatives from other sources than APC. What software would you guys suggest I try with the UPS? I don't have X installed on the server, so command-line is the way to go, but a web interface would be neat! -- Rich

Sept. 17, 2006

Smart package manager

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Those of you who attended the most recent WLUG meeting might remember me complaining that the version of YaST on OpenSuSE 10.1 has a pathetically slow program for handling software installation. Greg Avedissian mentioned the Smart package manager (http://labix.org/smart) as an alternative, so I gave it a try. The Smart package manager appears to be Linux distribution agnostic. It works on systems whose package management is based on RPM, APT, APT-RPM, YUM, etc. I tried it on my laptop, where I was having the most performance issues with YaST's software handling program. I am quite pleased with the Smart package manager! Thanks, Greg, for the recommendation! I haven't yet installed the Smart package manager on my "good" system, but I probably will if Novell doesn't fix YaST in OpenSuSE 10.2. The Smart package manager has found a permanent home on my laptop. Funding for the development of the Smart package manager is being supplied by Canonical Ltd., the same folks who are funding Ubuntu Linux. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFDIg+Hl0iXDssISsRApTfAJ9MYONVIomUGBZgSrJlZv1TFgZ1WwCfaCLM J2A2Ch5Jk0yLtWsYsTsarZM= =CTb9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] WPI wireless setup on ubuntu linux

by Chuck Anderson

On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 02:56:05AM -0400, sknaqvi(a)WPI.EDU wrote: > 1. installed ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant > 2. setup the driver using ndiswrapper and intel 3945 driver's inf file I would avoic ndiswrapper if your wireless card is supported by a native Linux driver. It is an ugly hack that has unfixable design obstacles due to the way Windows allocates a larger stack size. This can contribute to random system crashes. > 3. Configured ifconfig and iwconfig for wlan0 > 4. Ran the following command: > wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -D ndiswrapper > It's here I run into problems-I get the following output: Did you download the certificate files and specify them in the wpa_supplicant.conf?

Sept. 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] WPI wireless setup on ubuntu linux

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 sknaqvi(a)WPI.EDU wrote: > Hi every1, > I am glad to know there is a local linux community alive. I was really > looking forward to joining the WPI linux association but couldn't find > anything related at the activities fair at WPI. Could anyone tell me > their website, when their meetings are, or perhaps can I meet a member > from the association? I could be wrong, but I believe that the WPI Linux Association is defunct, and has been for a few years. A couple of people in WLUG used to be in WPILA in their undergrad days, and perhaps they know more about this. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFC/EmHl0iXDssISsRAv0sAKCJglczLM+6EblrdH5wMEj/3Dp6pACdH2wI 6P4U+04fEmS1v/b5HIzZ3pM= =mqW5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 16, 2006

WPI wireless setup on ubuntu linux

by sknaqvi＠WPI.EDU

Hi every1, I am glad to know there is a local linux community alive. I was really looking forward to joining the WPI linux association but couldn't find anything related at the activities fair at WPI. Could anyone tell me their website, when their meetings are, or perhaps can I meet a member from the association? Secondly, to setup wireless connection with WPI on-campus, I followed the instructions on a WPI webpage (a private one-i googled my problem and came up with this but sadly it isn't appearing now) and the CCC webpage but to no avail. Could anyone help me out with this-please? Anyways I would really like to meet any linux dudes like me so just drop by anytime you like-I am at Institute Hall 105. I don't know whether this would help, but here's what I did to setup the wireless: 1. installed ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant 2. setup the driver using ndiswrapper and intel 3945 driver's inf file 3. Configured ifconfig and iwconfig for wlan0 4. Ran the following command: wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -D ndiswrapper It's here I run into problems-I get the following output: ioctl[SIOCSIWSCAN]: Resource temporarily unavailable Failed to initiate AP scan. Trying to associate with 00:15:e8:df:ad:40 (SSID='WPI-Wireless' freq=0 MHz) Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out. CTRL-EVENT-TERMINATING - signal 2 received Failed to disable WPA in the driver. ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: Resource temporarily unavailable Am I doing something wrong? Do you have any suggestions. Please help because this is the only thing which would allow me to quit Windows for daily life! Thank you in advance Yours sincerely, S. Kazim Naqvi

Sept. 16, 2006

Fw: Missing Inkscape from Suse Linux 9.2: Never mind

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Never mind. Got my answer from Novell's website. My "other thought" was indeed correct. There's tons more software on the 2 DVD's than on the 5 CD's. The Novell web page even lists *exactly* which packages the CD's don't contain. I don't have a DVD drive on the Suse Linux 9.2 laptop, but I was able to read the Inkscape .rpm file on my Windows laptop which *does* have a DVD drive. Then I ftp'd the file to my Linux laptop and did an install from a local directory. Doug ----- Forwarded by Doug Aker/EMPL/MA/Verizon on 09/14/2006 03:54 PM ----- Doug Aker/EMPL/MA/Verizon 09/14/2006 01:40 PM To "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> cc Subject Missing Inkscape from Suse Linux 9.2 Hi All: Recently, I installed Suse Linux Pro 9.2 on an HP laptop. The box the software came in prominently lists, as an included program, Inkscape, the open-source vector graphics editor. The mystery is that I can find no reference to Inkscape anywhere in the system, not even in Yast when searching in the "Install and Remove Software" dialog. Now perhaps I messed up and didn't choose Inkscape during the initial install, but shouldn't Yast still list Inkscape as a "Not Installed" package? My other thought is that perhaps Inkscape is included when you install from the 2 DVD's, but somehow Novell messed up and didn't include it on the 5 CD's. Thanks, Doug

Sept. 14, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Missing Inkscape from Suse Linux 9.2

by howard＠howardwhite.net

I have SUSE 10 installed, and I'm sure it's on the DVD (though I already had Inkscape installed under 9.2.) If it's not there, it's easily available at Inkscape. In fact, it might be better to download it because the version on the 9.n distribution set would not be the latest and greatest. HW

Sept. 14, 2006

Missing Inkscape from Suse Linux 9.2

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Hi All: Recently, I installed Suse Linux Pro 9.2 on an HP laptop. The box the software came in prominently lists, as an included program, Inkscape, the open-source vector graphics editor. The mystery is that I can find no reference to Inkscape anywhere in the system, not even in Yast when searching in the "Install and Remove Software" dialog. Now perhaps I messed up and didn't choose Inkscape during the initial install, but shouldn't Yast still list Inkscape as a "Not Installed" package? My other thought is that perhaps Inkscape is included when you install from the 2 DVD's, but somehow Novell messed up and didn't include it on the 5 CD's. Thanks, Doug

Sept. 14, 2006

Re: [Wlug] What USB flash drive device to choose for Suse Linux 9.3?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com wrote: > > Hi All, > > Quick question: Is buying a USB flash drive device for Linux something > that needs a bit of research? Or, by and large, will any old device > work? I've got Suse Linux 9.3 installed on an HP Omnibook 6100. > > Thanks, > Doug I always check here for starters: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ I had a USB flash device that didn't work, but that was a while ago. I returned it and got one that was mentioned on the website (above) and have had no problems since. I'd recommend some care with cameras. My Logitech camera uses the pwc driver which has minor issues with Linux. Maybe the USB 2.0 devices fare better. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFBzEYHl0iXDssISsRAskPAJsFxKzD1pSgQdiY/0QyXTivzyJjdwCfSN1g gATLrpcTw1/2vUlo6jauLwY= =+796 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] What USB flash drive device to choose for Suse Linux 9.3?

by Karl Hiramoto

almost any of them should work.. usbstorage module douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com wrote: > > Hi All, > > Quick question: Is buying a USB flash drive device for Linux something > that needs a bit of research? Or, by and large, will any old device > work? I've got Suse Linux 9.3 installed on an HP Omnibook 6100. > > Thanks, > Doug > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/ -- Last night I dreamed I ate a ten-pound marshmallow, and when I woke up the pillow was gone. -- Tommy Cooper

Sept. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] What USB flash drive device to choose for Suse Linux 9.3?

by Brian J. Conway

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com wrote: > Hi All, > > Quick question: Is buying a USB flash drive device for Linux something > that needs a bit of research? Or, by and large, will any old device work? > I've got Suse Linux 9.3 installed on an HP Omnibook 6100. Just about any off-the-shelf "flash stick" or USB-connected hard drive enclosure will all use the kernel's usb-storage and SD drivers. Lots of cameras, too. Brian J. Conway bconway(at)alum.wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992

Sept. 12, 2006

What USB flash drive device to choose for Suse Linux 9.3?

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Hi All, Quick question: Is buying a USB flash drive device for Linux something that needs a bit of research? Or, by and large, will any old device work? I've got Suse Linux 9.3 installed on an HP Omnibook 6100. Thanks, Doug

Sept. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] RAZR w/ Linux, Ruby tutorial

by Bill Smith

On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:35:24 -0400, John Stoffel wrote: >Bill> First, I was talking to someone about accessing the RAZR from >Bill> Linux via USB. (Sorry-- I'm terrible with names.) The program >Bill> that I use is moto4lin, and is available for free from >Bill> SourceForge at: http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page . > >I think I remember using this tool to access my V551 via BlueTooth on >my linux box, but it was a pain. I may have ended up going into KDE >instead of gnome and browsing to bluetooth:// instead. My PC doesn't have BlueTooth. I'm using a USB cable to do the connection. >In any case, it's a pain. If you want to sync your phone so you don't >lose your contacts and such, try the service on yahoo. >http://mobile.yahoo.com where I was able to upload my phone book quite >easily over a web connection. It's a work phone, so I don't worry >about the costs. *grin* This is a personal phone, so the costs actually matter to me. :) >Bill> One may (or may not) need p2kmoto, which is available from: >Bill> http://sourceforge.net/projects/moto4lin (the information is >Bill> available from the main page). > >Has anyone else gotten it to work reliably with BlueTooth? I'll be interested in this, too. >Bill> All-told, the installation of both parts are covered in the >Bill> documentation, and it's pretty straight-forward. > >But the moto4lin website sucks rocks. Who is crazy enough to think a >wiki is a web site? <shrug> >Bill> Second, I had asked several about Ruby tutorials, and mentioned >Bill> that I found one source that was a bit... ...odd, though I >Bill> couldn't remember the name of it. It is "Why's (Poignant) Guide >Bill> to Ruby, which is found at http://poignantguide.net/ruby/ . > > >Bill> Third, as for a list of what my employer has for what we are >Bill> getting rid of, we're in the process of building a list... When >Bill> something is available, I'll let you know. :) > >Oh! Post to the list so we vultures can gather around. Whee! Absolutely. Oh-- Andy- My AP is a LinkSys/Cisco WAP54G. It's got this via SNMP: # snmpget -v 2c -c snmp_password_here 10.80.50.4 sysDescr.0 SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr.0 = STRING: Linux (none) 2.4.20 mips -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com I never imagined there might be a time that I would die defending the Constitution from those sworn to uphold it. * TAG! v3.2 *

Sept. 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] e-Commerce Software

by Karl Hiramoto

Matt Higgins wrote: > Looking for some insight from you folks. Does anyone have experience > with this? Here are some params: > > Runs on linux > Does not need to be open source but that's a bonus > Standard software platform i.e. Java / PHP / Perl based > SOE friendly (nice urls, shallow link depth , crawlable catalog) > Ability to manage inventory and fulfillment. (this is more of a bonus) > > > Any thoughts ? > Check out: http://www.zen-cart.com/ -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/ -- Now is the time for all good men to come to. -- Walt Kelly

Sept. 9, 2006

Re: [Wlug] RAZR w/ Linux, Ruby tutorial

by John Stoffel

Bill> First, I was talking to someone about accessing the RAZR from Bill> Linux via USB. (Sorry-- I'm terrible with names.) The program Bill> that I use is moto4lin, and is available for free from Bill> SourceForge at: http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page . I think I remember using this tool to access my V551 via BlueTooth on my linux box, but it was a pain. I may have ended up going into KDE instead of gnome and browsing to bluetooth:// instead. In any case, it's a pain. If you want to sync your phone so you don't lose your contacts and such, try the service on yahoo. http://mobile.yahoo.com where I was able to upload my phone book quite easily over a web connection. It's a work phone, so I don't worry about the costs. *grin* Bill> One may (or may not) need p2kmoto, which is available from: Bill> http://sourceforge.net/projects/moto4lin (the information is Bill> available from the main page). Has anyone else gotten it to work reliably with BlueTooth? Bill> All-told, the installation of both parts are covered in the Bill> documentation, and it's pretty straight-forward. But the moto4lin website sucks rocks. Who is crazy enough to think a wiki is a web site? Bill> Second, I had asked several about Ruby tutorials, and mentioned Bill> that I found one source that was a bit... ...odd, though I Bill> couldn't remember the name of it. It is "Why's (Poignant) Guide Bill> to Ruby, which is found at http://poignantguide.net/ruby/ . Bill> Third, as for a list of what my employer has for what we are Bill> getting rid of, we're in the process of building a list... When Bill> something is available, I'll let you know. :) Oh! Post to the list so we vultures can gather around. Whee! John

Sept. 9, 2006

e-Commerce Software

by Matt Higgins

Looking for some insight from you folks. Does anyone have experience with this? Here are some params: Runs on linux Does not need to be open source but that's a bonus Standard software platform i.e. Java / PHP / Perl based SOE friendly (nice urls, shallow link depth , crawlable catalog) Ability to manage inventory and fulfillment. (this is more of a bonus) Any thoughts ?

Sept. 8, 2006

RAZR w/ Linux, Ruby tutorial

by Bill Smith

There are several things I want to mention... First, I was talking to someone about accessing the RAZR from Linux via USB. (Sorry-- I'm terrible with names.) The program that I use is moto4lin, and is available for free from SourceForge at: http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page . One may (or may not) need p2kmoto, which is available from: http://sourceforge.net/projects/moto4lin (the information is available from the main page). All-told, the installation of both parts are covered in the documentation, and it's pretty straight-forward. Second, I had asked several about Ruby tutorials, and mentioned that I found one source that was a bit... ...odd, though I couldn't remember the name of it. It is "Why's (Poignant) Guide to Ruby, which is found at http://poignantguide.net/ruby/ . Third, as for a list of what my employer has for what we are getting rid of, we're in the process of building a list... When something is available, I'll let you know. :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. For years I was smart. I recommend pleasant." -- Elwood P. Dowd * TAG! v3.2 *

Sept. 8, 2006

Re: [Wlug] MEETING: Thurs, Sept 7th, 7:00 PM

by Jamie Guinan

Unfortunately I can't make tonight's meeting. But I did up a few pictures from the BBQ, http://www.bluebutton.com/wlug/ See you in October! -Jamie

Sept. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] MEETING: Thurs, Sept 7th, 7:00 PM

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Andy, If you're still interested, I can briefly discuss my offer to give a preso (for the Oct meeting) on the SVG application I've developed. If there's interest, great. If not, no hard feelings. I've not had time to port the browser part of the application to SUSE Linux. The XML transformations though, *do* run on Linux (zLinux: IBM's Linux that runs under VM on mainframes). Doug "Andy Stewart" <andystewart(a)comcast.net> Sent by: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org 09/06/2006 08:12 PM Please respond to "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> To "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> cc Subject Re: [Wlug] MEETING: Thurs, Sept 7th, 7:00 PM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Everybody, Unfortunately, the Sybase representative who was supposed to visit us was called away on business out of the country, thus we won't be having our scheduled talk about Sybase at our next WLUG meeting. I apologize for the short notice - I just found out myself. We will still have the meeting, but it will be up to us to be creative with our time. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE/2PjHl0iXDssISsRAjhoAKCFyndvdNByHh2ZUJIlbRJeABlsBQCeKh8z H7SEBLKQgIk0e9gCmW1KwJo= =7fnA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] MEETING: Thurs, Sept 7th, 7:00 PM

by Eric Stein

Wow. I completely forgot about the meeting that was supposed to be today. I'm sort of glad this happened, now I have another chance :) Eric Andy Stewart wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > > Unfortunately, the Sybase representative who was supposed to visit us > was called away on business out of the country, thus we won't be having > our scheduled talk about Sybase at our next WLUG meeting. > > I apologize for the short notice - I just found out myself. > > We will still have the meeting, but it will be up to us to be creative > with our time. > > Later, > > Andy

Sept. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Distributions with Syslinux?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Richard Klein wrote: > I'm trying to install *nix on an old Gateway2000 120MHz Pentium. Most of > the discs (debian 3.1, ubuntu 5.10, phlak, solaris 10, freebsd 5.1, suse > 9.0, openbsd, netbsd 1.6.2) I have won't boot on it, giving an Isolinux > error (I forget exactly what the error was - it's at home and I'm at > work). PHLAK (I forget the version) boots, but locks up with a black > screen after it starts X. I'm guessing it boots because it uses Syslinux > instead of Isolinux, but I don't know if that's true. netbsd 1.6.2 also > boots, and I installed that last night, but I hate the default twm window > manager, I don't know how netbsd handles packages (I'm thinking of things > like deb or rpm packages), I don't know my way around netbsd, this is an > old version of netbsd, and netbsd is probably the wrong choice for what I > want to do, anyway. I want to see if I can turn this heap into a useful > web browser and email reader (well, web-mail could take care of email > chores). Some basic office apps would be nice, too. > > So, if I'm right that this old hardware is incompatible with Isolinux, > what are my options? > > Thanks! HI Rich, Here's a thought. Try downloading a copy of Damn Small Linux (DSL): http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/download.html Note that they have two versions, one with Syslinux and another with Isolinux. If one works and another doesn't, and it is consistent with what you've reported (above), then you have one problem solved (in a sense). DSL has low memory requirements and you can run it off of the CD to see if you like it (and if it is compatible with your hardware). I'm not certain but I think DSL is Debian based. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE/2VoHl0iXDssISsRApcHAJsGoBgEZ2HXHacLn8wfhb+qFT1glwCePy7I reZfEWmWPddiYLLX8CLeSQM= =k74N -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] MEETING: Thurs, Sept 7th, 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Everybody, Unfortunately, the Sybase representative who was supposed to visit us was called away on business out of the country, thus we won't be having our scheduled talk about Sybase at our next WLUG meeting. I apologize for the short notice - I just found out myself. We will still have the meeting, but it will be up to us to be creative with our time. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE/2PjHl0iXDssISsRAjhoAKCFyndvdNByHh2ZUJIlbRJeABlsBQCeKh8z H7SEBLKQgIk0e9gCmW1KwJo= =7fnA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Distributions with Syslinux?

by Adam Keck

Have you tried to installing from floppy? <http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/Debian3.1r3/main/installer-i386/curr…> or <http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/Debian3.0r6/main/disks-i386/current/…> -Adam On 9/6/06, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > I'm trying to install *nix on an old Gateway2000 120MHz Pentium. Most of > the discs (debian 3.1, ubuntu 5.10, phlak, solaris 10, freebsd 5.1, suse > 9.0, openbsd, netbsd 1.6.2) I have won't boot on it, giving an Isolinux > error (I forget exactly what the error was - it's at home and I'm at > work). PHLAK (I forget the version) boots, but locks up with a black > screen after it starts X. I'm guessing it boots because it uses Syslinux > instead of Isolinux, but I don't know if that's true. netbsd 1.6.2 also > boots, and I installed that last night, but I hate the default twm window > manager, I don't know how netbsd handles packages (I'm thinking of things > like deb or rpm packages), I don't know my way around netbsd, this is an > old version of netbsd, and netbsd is probably the wrong choice for what I > want to do, anyway. I want to see if I can turn this heap into a useful > web browser and email reader (well, web-mail could take care of email > chores). Some basic office apps would be nice, too. > > So, if I'm right that this old hardware is incompatible with Isolinux, > what are my options? > > Thanks! > -- > Rich > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- -Adam

Sept. 6, 2006

Re: [Wlug] CentOS?

by Andrew Robert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It is definitely more pain than it is worth to upgrade. I recommend you back up everything and do a clean build. John Stoffel wrote: > Pete> Anyone working with CentOS? I have a RH8 server that needs to > Pete> join the party. Any remote possibility that CentOS can upgrade > Pete> RH8, or do I need to backup everything and start from scratch? > > I think you'd need to upgrade to RH9, then the next RH/CentOS version > as you move up. Personally, I'd save off my data and just do an > upgrade if possible. > > I really like keeping my personal data on seperate RAID1 mirrors and > the OS on it's own set of disks if at all possible. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPT 2.7.2 iD8DBQFE/ys4Dvn/4H0LjDwRAnO+AKC32jLiQLH325lNIDlVKsPdKfJmuQCeL+0P IJOlWcvByJZSQPRGLpJpLdE= =5ubF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 6, 2006

Distributions with Syslinux?

by Richard Klein

I'm trying to install *nix on an old Gateway2000 120MHz Pentium. Most of the discs (debian 3.1, ubuntu 5.10, phlak, solaris 10, freebsd 5.1, suse 9.0, openbsd, netbsd 1.6.2) I have won't boot on it, giving an Isolinux error (I forget exactly what the error was - it's at home and I'm at work). PHLAK (I forget the version) boots, but locks up with a black screen after it starts X. I'm guessing it boots because it uses Syslinux instead of Isolinux, but I don't know if that's true. netbsd 1.6.2 also boots, and I installed that last night, but I hate the default twm window manager, I don't know how netbsd handles packages (I'm thinking of things like deb or rpm packages), I don't know my way around netbsd, this is an old version of netbsd, and netbsd is probably the wrong choice for what I want to do, anyway. I want to see if I can turn this heap into a useful web browser and email reader (well, web-mail could take care of email chores). Some basic office apps would be nice, too. So, if I'm right that this old hardware is incompatible with Isolinux, what are my options? Thanks! -- Rich

Sept. 6, 2006

Re: [Wlug] bacula

by John Stoffel

Mike> Ok...I have it all figured out in my head, now i just need to Mike> start configuring the jobs. When you think you have it figured out, re-read the manuals and examples. Mike> I was able to get a 2nd 35/70 drive, now DLT1 and DLT2 are Mike> options for my backups. Right, that will help. Mike> I can't figure out how to have 1 job write to both either Mike> concurrently, or sequentailly as the job only allows me to pick Mike> 1 or the other. Correct, a single job can only write to one device at a time. It will automatically write to the next available device (I think...) if it's available. So if you have TapeA in drive1 and TapeB in drive2, and they are both in the same Pool, and you have one big job that runs and fills up TapeA, it should start using TapeB to continue the save. If you have multiple jobs running at the same time, you can tweak the "Maximum Concurent Jobs = " Parameter in the bacula-sd.conf file, and also tweak it in the Bacula Director config file. Re-reading the manual again, I'm thinking that I really need to look into Spooling my jobs (only have four total) so that I don't shoe-shine the drive. Of course this means having 10-20gb of free space for this, which is harder. Mike> I tried using: Storage = DLT1, DLT2 and by having 2 Storage Mike> lines in my bacula-dir.conf, but neither worked. Join the bacula-users mailing list for more detailed questions like this. I know that Kern has been improving this aspect of Bacula lately. Whcih version are you running? As an aside, after running Legato(EMC) Networker for many years, bacula's user interface (cli or gui) feels clunky and painful. It's the biggest problem with the software. In general, it works quite well. I just did a restore of data last night spanned across three tapes and besides having to change them, it ran wonderfully. I just wish I had known ahead of time that I would need those tapes.

Sept. 6, 2006

Re: [Wlug] CentOS?

by John Stoffel

Pete> Anyone working with CentOS? I have a RH8 server that needs to Pete> join the party. Any remote possibility that CentOS can upgrade Pete> RH8, or do I need to backup everything and start from scratch? I think you'd need to upgrade to RH9, then the next RH/CentOS version as you move up. Personally, I'd save off my data and just do an upgrade if possible. I really like keeping my personal data on seperate RAID1 mirrors and the OS on it's own set of disks if at all possible. John

Sept. 6, 2006

CentOS?

by Pete Wason

Hiall, Anyone working with CentOS? I have a RH8 server that needs to join the party. Any remote possibility that CentOS can upgrade RH8, or do I need to backup everything and start from scratch? Yes, I know it's a wacky question. :) PS: And, DAMN AOL! PPS: if this message is HTML, let me know; I'm still learning Thunderbird... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Pete Wason* Hy Noom Publications /codevark(a)aim.com/ 508.865.5414

Sept. 6, 2006

Re: [Wlug] bacula

by Mike Leo

Ok...I have it all figured out in my head, now i just need to start configuring the jobs. I was able to get a 2nd 35/70 drive, now DLT1 and DLT2 are options for my backups. I can't figure out how to have 1 job write to both either concurrently, or sequentailly as the job only allows me to pick 1 or the other. I tried using: Storage = DLT1, DLT2 and by having 2 Storage lines in my bacula-dir.conf, but neither worked. Any idea's? John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: Just for grins, here's my output of 'mt -f /dev/nst0 status' on my DLT7k driver: > mt -f /dev/st0 status SCSI 2 tape drive: File number=0, block number=0, partition=0. Tape block size 0 bytes. Density code 0x1b (DLT 35GB). Soft error count since last status=0 General status bits on (41010000): BOT ONLINE IM_REP_EN You can also run the bacula command 'btape' on there to make sure you've got things configured properly. John _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 6, 2006

Re: [Wlug] bacula

by John Stoffel

Just for grins, here's my output of 'mt -f /dev/nst0 status' on my DLT7k driver: > mt -f /dev/st0 status SCSI 2 tape drive: File number=0, block number=0, partition=0. Tape block size 0 bytes. Density code 0x1b (DLT 35GB). Soft error count since last status=0 General status bits on (41010000): BOT ONLINE IM_REP_EN You can also run the bacula command 'btape' on there to make sure you've got things configured properly. John

Sept. 5, 2006

MEETING: Thurs, Sept 7th, 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, We have a WLUG meeting coming up on Thursday, September 7th, 2006, at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. Anybody who is interested in Linux is welcome to attend. At this meeting, David Dichmann from Sybase will be the guest speaker, talking about Sybase on Linux. Checkout this link for more information: http://www.sybase.com/linux In addition, I'll be bringing a box of old (but working) computer parts. Feel free to be a scavenger! Included are ATAPI CDROM drives (8-16x), 3.5" floppy drives, a couple of power supplies, and a couple of Pentium 200MHz motherboards. Anything not claimed at the meeting will go to electronics recycling. There will be quite a few other things available for a free giveaway: Sybase teeshirts and other goodies 2 x LaTeX User's Guide and Reference Manual (Leslie Lamport) Self-Service Linux - Mastering the Art of Problem Determination See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE/bJzHl0iXDssISsRAlk+AJ9kJtIGusw5IydkvFoz/I71yxcILwCghpG9 2wAXiRdWKJmQkVllmU6qqQo= =WE0i -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] bacula

by John Stoffel

Mike> Thanks a bunch. I had found this out 5 minutes after my first Mike> email, but your examples will come in handy i'm sure! No problem. Bacula is good, the manual is excellent for what it is, but the config files are Baroque... Kern's style I guess. Mike> i have a 35/70Gb DLT drive with IV tapes, but I am only getting Mike> less than 30 gigs' per tape. How is the tape drive hooked up to the system, and how fast is the system you're running on? Can you share some details on a completed job maybe? Mike> my bacula-sd.conf lists " Media Type = DLT"....if this is not Mike> accurate, could bacula think I have only a 15/30Gb drive? Mike> Should it read DTL7000 or something? Nah, doesn't really matter. Mike> Also, does bacula compress naturally or do i have to tell it too? I'm not aware of Bacula compressing data from the client when sending it to the tape drive unless you explicitly enable it. And it's generally not worth doing. The key thing with DLT is to push data to the drive at a high enough rate to keep it from shoe-shining. That both wears down the drive, and kills performance/storage capacity. Since the native speed is 5MB/s, you really really really wnat to be able to push 10MB/s to the drive to let it compress the data well. Unfortunately, that can be hard to do, esp if you have lots of small files to backup. Also, check your dmesg output to see how the drive is detected and at what speed it's running. When you put a tape into the drive, does the compression light come on as well? There's a known limitation (performance bottleneck actually) where Bacula uses transactions for inserting records into the DB one at a time. If they could insert more records at a time, performance would go up since the transaction overhead would be amortized across more INSERTS. Also, which DB are you using? And which version of Bacula? The newest released version I think (and I'd have to check) now uses sqlite3 as the default DB, which has a big performance loss compared to older 1.36.x versions which defaulted to sqlite which had better performance. Now one of the things I did to speed up my backups was to put my DB onto another host, since my tape drive and data were all one one system, so adding mysql updates ontop of that really just brought it down to it's knees. Anyway, more data on your backups and how well they currently run would be good. On my system, I get around 24gb to 68gb per tape, so it's certainly possible to get more data on there, esp since I'm using a dual CPU Xeon 550mhz box to do my backups. Old and not very fast. John

Sept. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] bacula

by Frank Sweetser

On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 03:11:14PM -0700, Mike Leo wrote: > i have a 35/70Gb DLT drive with IV tapes, but I am only getting less than 30 > gigs' per tape. > > my bacula-sd.conf lists " Media Type = DLT"....if this is not accurate, could > bacula think I have only a 15/30Gb drive? Should it read DTL7000 or > something? Bacula doesn't actually parse the media type - it's nothing more than a unique identifier string that bacula uses to determine what volumes can be read by what drives. You could call file volumes "blue", DLT tapes "red", and DVDRs "green" and it would work fine. Bacula doesn't try to pre-determine the amount of space available on a tape. It just writes until the drive reports that it's hit the end of media, re-reads the last succesfully written block to make sure it got there okay, marks the volume full and asks for another one. The fact that you're getting about 30G of data per tape implies that you have hardware tape compression off. I believe the 'mt' command will tell you the compression status - the online manual has an example. The other 5G or so is probably taken up by volume metadata, such as the volume label and file attributes. > Also, does bacula compress naturally or do i have to tell it too? No, you have to explicitly enable gzip compression if you want to use it. It's typically reccomended to use drive hardware compression instead, though, as a) drive hardware compression is usually faster, especially on older machines, and b) it's possible to run into file daemon incompatabilities that can make it difficult to restore data, especially if you're trying to restore the data onto a different machine that the one it was backed up on. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Sept. 4, 2006

Re: [Wlug] bacula

by Mike Leo

Thanks a bunch. I had found this out 5 minutes after my first email, but your examples will come in handy i'm sure! Now i just need to start building my own backup FileSet's etc. One question, however... i have a 35/70Gb DLT drive with IV tapes, but I am only getting less than 30 gigs' per tape. my bacula-sd.conf lists " Media Type = DLT"....if this is not accurate, could bacula think I have only a 15/30Gb drive? Should it read DTL7000 or something? Also, does bacula compress naturally or do i have to tell it too? thanks again mike John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: Mike> Someone at the cook-out mentioned they were using bacula for Mike> backups. I have just installed it and I have a DLT tape drive. Same here, I've got Bacula running right now at home to a DLT7k drive. Mike> I have it confugered OK and i can connect to my fd (client) and Mike> my sd (storage device). Mike> To keep things simple, lets say that I am doing everything on Mike> one server. Yup. Mike> I can label the tapes and even backup to my "File" device. Mike> My question is, what/where do I build a list of jobs to run? This is one of the weaknesses of Bacula in my mind. You need to setup a JobDefs { ... } section in your /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf file. Mike> Lets say I want a "Full" backup of the system, and a seperate Mike> backup of just /home. Mike> Where do these jobs get defined, etc etc etc. This seems to be Mike> the only piece I am missing in the doc's. The docs are actually pretty good, it just sometimes takes a bit of re-reading to make it work. For example, here's what I have for one client. JobDefs { Name = "jack to tape" Type = Backup Level = Differential Client = jack-fd FileSet = "jack Full Set" Schedule = "MonthlyCycle" Storage = jfsnew-DLT Messages = Standard Pool = Backups Priority = 10 } Notice the Schedule and FileSet lines. Those are OTHER sections in the same file which define which schedule to use, and which filesets to run. Then you need to define a Job {...} section too: Job { Name = "jack-fd" JobDefs = "jack to tape" Write Bootstrap = "/var/lib/bacula/jack.bsr" } So here's most of what I've got defined for this one client. It's a pain, and I wish he would just dump this into the DB so it's easier to manage. Or maybe having a tool to write these files would be useful. :] FileSet { Name = "jack Full Set" #noatime = yes Ignore FileSet Changes = yes Include { Options { wilddir = \.thumbnails exclude = yes } File = @/etc/bacula/FileSet-jack } Exclude { File = /sys File = /proc File = /tmp File = ".journal" File = ".fsck" File = "/var/lib/mysql" File = ".thumbnails" } } Schedule { Name = "MonthlyCycle" Run = Level=Full 1st sun at 1:05 Run = Level=Differential 2nd-5th sun at 1:05 Run = Level=Incremental mon-sat at 1:05 } Client { Name = jack-fd Address = jack FDPort = 9102 Catalog = MyCatalog Password = "" # password for FileDaemon File Retention = 60 days # 30 days Job Retention = 12 months # six months AutoPrune = yes # Prune expired Jobs/Files } Let me know if this helps or not. John _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 4, 2006

Re: [Wlug] bacula

by John Stoffel

Mike> Someone at the cook-out mentioned they were using bacula for Mike> backups. I have just installed it and I have a DLT tape drive. Same here, I've got Bacula running right now at home to a DLT7k drive. Mike> I have it confugered OK and i can connect to my fd (client) and Mike> my sd (storage device). Mike> To keep things simple, lets say that I am doing everything on Mike> one server. Yup. Mike> I can label the tapes and even backup to my "File" device. Mike> My question is, what/where do I build a list of jobs to run? This is one of the weaknesses of Bacula in my mind. You need to setup a JobDefs { ... } section in your /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf file. Mike> Lets say I want a "Full" backup of the system, and a seperate Mike> backup of just /home. Mike> Where do these jobs get defined, etc etc etc. This seems to be Mike> the only piece I am missing in the doc's. The docs are actually pretty good, it just sometimes takes a bit of re-reading to make it work. For example, here's what I have for one client. JobDefs { Name = "jack to tape" Type = Backup Level = Differential Client = jack-fd FileSet = "jack Full Set" Schedule = "MonthlyCycle" Storage = jfsnew-DLT Messages = Standard Pool = Backups Priority = 10 } Notice the Schedule and FileSet lines. Those are OTHER sections in the same file which define which schedule to use, and which filesets to run. Then you need to define a Job {...} section too: Job { Name = "jack-fd" JobDefs = "jack to tape" Write Bootstrap = "/var/lib/bacula/jack.bsr" } So here's most of what I've got defined for this one client. It's a pain, and I wish he would just dump this into the DB so it's easier to manage. Or maybe having a tool to write these files would be useful. :] FileSet { Name = "jack Full Set" #noatime = yes Ignore FileSet Changes = yes Include { Options { wilddir = \.thumbnails exclude = yes } File = @/etc/bacula/FileSet-jack } Exclude { File = /sys File = /proc File = /tmp File = ".journal" File = ".fsck" File = "/var/lib/mysql" File = ".thumbnails" } } Schedule { Name = "MonthlyCycle" Run = Level=Full 1st sun at 1:05 Run = Level=Differential 2nd-5th sun at 1:05 Run = Level=Incremental mon-sat at 1:05 } Client { Name = jack-fd Address = jack FDPort = 9102 Catalog = MyCatalog Password = "" # password for FileDaemon File Retention = 60 days # 30 days Job Retention = 12 months # six months AutoPrune = yes # Prune expired Jobs/Files } Let me know if this helps or not. John

Sept. 3, 2006

Re: [Wlug] bacula

by Frank Sweetser

On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 10:42:10PM -0700, Mike Leo wrote: > My question is, what/where do I build a list of jobs to run? > > Lets say I want a "Full" backup of the system, and a seperate backup of just > /home. All of that kind of policy based config gets defined in the director config file. You create filesets to define what files get backed up, and schedules to define when. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Sept. 3, 2006

never mind

by Mike Leo

Figured it out. /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf has different "File Sets" that define that. thanks

Sept. 3, 2006

Re: [Wlug] ALSA - mic trouble

by Jamie Guinan

On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Eric Stein wrote: > >> Send output of "amixer". > eastein@pippin:~$ amixer <snip> > Simple mixer control 'Mic',0 > Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch am> cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive > Capture exclusive group: 0 > Playback channels: Mono > Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right > Limits: Playback 0 - 31 > Mono: Playback 27 [87%] [off] > Front Left: Capture [on] > Front Right: Capture [on] That's what I was looking for, but it looks Ok. What do the GUI mixers look like? gnome-volume-control, aumix, etc. Can you send a screen shot? It *could* be hardware. I had a line-in port fail on a PC recently. -Jamie

Sept. 3, 2006

bacula

by Mike Leo

Someone at the cook-out mentioned they were using bacula for backups. I have just installed it and I have a DLT tape drive. I have it confugered OK and i can connect to my fd (client) and my sd (storage device). To keep things simple, lets say that I am doing everything on one server. I can label the tapes and even backup to my "File" device. My question is, what/where do I build a list of jobs to run? Lets say I want a "Full" backup of the system, and a seperate backup of just /home. Where do these jobs get defined, etc etc etc. This seems to be the only piece I am missing in the doc's. thanks mike

Sept. 3, 2006

Re: [Wlug] iptables use of --mac-source

by John Stoffel

Frank> On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 10:40:25AM -0400, John Stoffel wrote: >> This will only work if you have a bridged network, once you have a >> switch in the way, the MAC address will change. This is because Frank> Nope - a switch is logically identical to a bridge with more Frank> than two ports. A packet forwarded by a router will have the Frank> routers MAC address because the router has to generate a new Frank> ethernet frame with the same ethernet payload as the original Frank> packet, while a switch will blindly forward the packet to Frank> wherever it's FDB tells it to. Details details... don't confuse me with facts! *grin* You're right of course. >> For network switches, each port has it's own MAC address. Basically, Frank> Only if the switch supports spanning tree, and only for Frank> spanning tree - those per-port MACs aren't used for anything Frank> else. Yup, that's the details I mis-remembered. Then again, who pays attention to this stuff any more? *grin* John

Sept. 2, 2006

Re: [Wlug] iptables use of --mac-source

by Frank Sweetser

On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 10:40:25AM -0400, John Stoffel wrote: > This will only work if you have a bridged network, once you have a > switch in the way, the MAC address will change. This is because Nope - a switch is logically identical to a bridge with more than two ports. A packet forwarded by a router will have the routers MAC address because the router has to generate a new ethernet frame with the same ethernet payload as the original packet, while a switch will blindly forward the packet to wherever it's FDB tells it to. > For network switches, each port has it's own MAC address. Basically, Only if the switch supports spanning tree, and only for spanning tree - those per-port MACs aren't used for anything else. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Sept. 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] iptables use of --mac-source

by John Stoffel

Andy> I'm playing with my firewall rules, trying to setup a rule that Andy> will recognize my laptop's mac address on an incoming Andy> connection. Andy> iptables -I INPUT -m mac --mac-source uu:vv:ww:xx:yy:zz -j LOG Andy> - --log-prefix "Laptop Detected: " This will only work if you have a bridged network, once you have a switch in the way, the MAC address will change. This is because you're looking at the low level packets, where the MAC addresses gets re-written to reflect the next hop device that the packet needs to goto to get off the local network segment. Note, this is purely a low level ethernet issue, not an IP issue. Andy> That worked fine. I saw the appropriate log entry when my Andy> laptop ping'd the firewall. The log entry showed the expected Andy> mac address of my laptop. At that time, my laptop was plugged Andy> into my home network, which is connected to the "internal" Andy> interface of my firewall. Andy> I then setup iptables to log all incoming packets from the Andy> firewall's external interface, and I noticed that in the log all Andy> incoming mac source addresses are the same. I didn't expect Andy> this. The address is 00:0b:bf:xx:xx:xx, which I think is a Andy> piece of Cisco hardware, and I don't have any Cisco hardware at Andy> home. Is this some hardware from my ISP ? Yup, it's the MAC address of the upstream ethernet device. Basically, all packets are sent to that MAC address when they go off your network. Basically, what happens is that when you try to goto a new IP address (or when a new IP address attempts to contact you), the low level ethernet stack sends out an ARP (Address Resolution Protocol) request, saying "Who has this IP?" and waiting for a response from some other device. Be-it a bridge, a switch, an actual host, or whatever. This is how the low level ethernet knows where to forward packets within it's network segment. Each hub has just a single MAC address for all it's ports. A computer should have a unique MAC address for each ethernet port, though Suns didn't do this for a long time. The idea was that you couldn't put two seperate interfaces on the same network, since it caused problems. Obviously this was also on bridged networks, not swiched ones, which are the standard today. For network switches, each port has it's own MAC address. Basically, every device on a network (low level, physical medium) has to have a unique MAC address, otherwise you run into problems. This is layer 2 stuff. Layer 1 is the physical media. TCP/IP are layers 3 and 4 respectively. Hopefully this helps. I know I've skipped some details here. John

Sept. 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] iptables use of --mac-source

by Justin Odom

Andy, MAC Addresses work at layer 2. When a router receives a packet, it strips off the mac addresses, looks at its destination, appends its own mac addresses, and forwards out the appropriate interface. The MAC your seeing is probably your ISP's router. On 8/31/06, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > HI everybody, > > I'm playing with my firewall rules, trying to setup a rule that will > recognize my laptop's mac address on an incoming connection. > > I tried this: > > iptables -I INPUT -m mac --mac-source uu:vv:ww:xx:yy:zz -j LOG > - --log-prefix "Laptop Detected: " > > That worked fine. I saw the appropriate log entry when my laptop ping'd > the firewall. The log entry showed the expected mac address of my > laptop. At that time, my laptop was plugged into my home network, which > is connected to the "internal" interface of my firewall. > > I then setup iptables to log all incoming packets from the firewall's > external interface, and I noticed that in the log all incoming mac > source addresses are the same. I didn't expect this. The address is > 00:0b:bf:xx:xx:xx, which I think is a piece of Cisco hardware, and I > don't have any Cisco hardware at home. Is this some hardware from my ISP ? > > I'm guessing somebody is rewriting the packets to replace the source mac > address, but clearly my knowledge of this is lacking, and thus I'm > confused. Any helpers? > > Thanks, > > Andy > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFE95kJHl0iXDssISsRAmcUAJ4zD1PDX+TmZca7gzdmtvf7DwWgxACfUH4B > 3awkKwfmcBN7nmu/WXjsre4= > =6u9G > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Sept. 1, 2006

iptables use of --mac-source

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, I'm playing with my firewall rules, trying to setup a rule that will recognize my laptop's mac address on an incoming connection. I tried this: iptables -I INPUT -m mac --mac-source uu:vv:ww:xx:yy:zz -j LOG - --log-prefix "Laptop Detected: " That worked fine. I saw the appropriate log entry when my laptop ping'd the firewall. The log entry showed the expected mac address of my laptop. At that time, my laptop was plugged into my home network, which is connected to the "internal" interface of my firewall. I then setup iptables to log all incoming packets from the firewall's external interface, and I noticed that in the log all incoming mac source addresses are the same. I didn't expect this. The address is 00:0b:bf:xx:xx:xx, which I think is a piece of Cisco hardware, and I don't have any Cisco hardware at home. Is this some hardware from my ISP ? I'm guessing somebody is rewriting the packets to replace the source mac address, but clearly my knowledge of this is lacking, and thus I'm confused. Any helpers? Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE95kJHl0iXDssISsRAmcUAJ4zD1PDX+TmZca7gzdmtvf7DwWgxACfUH4B 3awkKwfmcBN7nmu/WXjsre4= =6u9G -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 1, 2006

My memory leak problem from last week.

by ken jones

I have moved from mozilla mail and mozilla browser to thunderbird mail and firefox browser. The memory leak problem seems to have either gone away completely or greatly been reduced. Interesting... thanks for the suggestions and help. Ken Jones

Aug. 28, 2006

Re: [Wlug] ALSA - mic trouble

by Eric Stein

Jamie Guinan wrote: > Hi, > > What kind of Mic is it? Some of mine have a small battery, and an > on/off switch, which I tend to forget "on". > > Have you tried other mics? > Non-USB - the kind that just plugs into the sound card like headphones. It never had batteries or a switch. My roommate's mic doesn't work either - it's part of a headset, but doesn't require power either. >> Info: Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 >> Linux pippin 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Tue Jul 18 22:08:27 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux >> >> I'm prepared to spend a good deal of time on this, but I don't know what >> I need to do. If you need more information, let me know how to get it >> and I'll be happy to share it. >> Send output of "amixer". eastein@pippin:~$ amixer Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 27 [87%] [on] Front Right: Playback 27 [87%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [on] Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 28 [90%] [on] Front Right: Playback 28 [90%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Surround',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [on] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Surround Jack Mode',0 Capabilities: Mono: Simple mixer control 'Center',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 27 [87%] [on] Simple mixer control 'LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Line',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 27 [87%] [off] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 27 [87%] [off] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'CD',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 27 [87%] [on] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 27 [87%] [on] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Mic',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 27 [87%] [off] Front Left: Capture [on] Front Right: Capture [on] Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost (+20dB)',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control 'Mic Select',0 Capabilities: Mono: Simple mixer control 'Video',0 Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Front Left: Capture [off] Front Right: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Phone',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 27 [87%] [off] Front Left: Capture [off] Front Right: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Capture [on] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 3 Mono: 3 [100%] Simple mixer control 'PC Speaker',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 15 Mono: Playback 15 [100%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Aux',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 27 [87%] [off] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 27 [87%] [off] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Mono Output Select',0 Capabilities: Mono: Simple mixer control 'Capture',0 Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Capture 0 - 15 Front Left: Capture 13 [87%] [off] Front Right: Capture 13 [87%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Mix',0 Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Front Left: Capture [off] Front Right: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Mix Mono',0 Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Front Left: Capture [off] Front Right: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Channel Mode',0 Capabilities: Mono: Simple mixer control 'Duplicate Front',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] eastein@pippin:~$ > Also, what kind of sound chip/card? Onboard? Add-in PCI? eastein@pippin:~$ lspci|grep audio 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1) eastein@pippin:~$ I hope this is enough to tip you off as to what's wrong... Eric

Aug. 26, 2006

Re: [Wlug] ALSA - mic trouble

by Jamie Guinan

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Eric Stein wrote: > Hi, > > When I first set up my Ubuntu machine, everything worked fine. But for > the last few months (I don't remember exactly how long), my mic has > refused to work. Nothing I use can pick up any signal from it. I've > tried all the mixers (alsamixer, kmix, the built in GNOME mixer), and > none of them show the mic as muted. Is there a way to reset ALSA's > volumes and other mixer settings to defaults? I can't seem to find > information about this online, and this lack of a fully working sound > system has me on the end of my rope. Hi, What kind of Mic is it? Some of mine have a small battery, and an on/off switch, which I tend to forget "on". Have you tried other mics? > Info: Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 > Linux pippin 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Tue Jul 18 22:08:27 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux > > I'm prepared to spend a good deal of time on this, but I don't know what > I need to do. If you need more information, let me know how to get it > and I'll be happy to share it. Send output of "amixer". Also, what kind of sound chip/card? Onboard? Add-in PCI? -Jamie > Eric

Aug. 26, 2006

ALSA - mic trouble

by Eric Stein

Hi, When I first set up my Ubuntu machine, everything worked fine. But for the last few months (I don't remember exactly how long), my mic has refused to work. Nothing I use can pick up any signal from it. I've tried all the mixers (alsamixer, kmix, the built in GNOME mixer), and none of them show the mic as muted. Is there a way to reset ALSA's volumes and other mixer settings to defaults? I can't seem to find information about this online, and this lack of a fully working sound system has me on the end of my rope. Info: Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 Linux pippin 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Tue Jul 18 22:08:27 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux I'm prepared to spend a good deal of time on this, but I don't know what I need to do. If you need more information, let me know how to get it and I'll be happy to share it. Eric

Aug. 26, 2006

My memory leak problem.

by ken jones

Everyone: It is hard to believe that X is the problem. It came with Fedora 4 and no one else seems to be reporting it as a bug. I have another Fedora 4 machine that does not display this swap space problem. Karl's idea of looking carefully at my drivers is a good one. This machine has more than one special driver. It is late now. I am tired. I shall pursue this track tomorrow or Friday. If anyone else is interested in the cut and paste of ps auxw lspci uname -a lsmod vmstat dmesg tell me. I will send you a copy. Thank you all:-) Ken Jones Thank you.

Aug. 24, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Problem with xosview SWAP space.

by Karl Hiramoto

ken jones wrote: > Karl: I hesitate to send this big message to the whole gang. > Attached are the results of your suggestion. Thank you in advance. > Ken Jones > > [root@kjones-fedora kjones]# ps auxw > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND > root 3252 51.6 41.7 435956 215064 ? S Aug18 3719:53 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0 > Well it seems most of your memory is used up by the X process. Keep watching this process if it's memory size grows then there may be a memory leak eating up your memory.. I'm not a fedora expert, are there any X updates? have you run yum or updated your system? What version of X are they using? perhaps send your /var/log/xorg.0.log [root@kjones-fedora kjones]# lspci 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R300 NE [Radeon 9500 Pro] 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R300 [Radeon 9500 Pro] (Secondary) I see you have an ATI graphics card. Do you know what video driver you are using? perhaps there is a problem there.

Aug. 23, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Problem with xosview SWAP space.

by Andre Lehovich

--- ken jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > I have been running Fedora Core 4 for at least a year. > It has theproblem of slow consumption of swap space - see graphic. The graphic didn't come through here. I bet you're using a binary-blob kernel module (e.g. Nvidia) which is making your system crash. The other possibility is you have an app with a memory leak, using 'ps avx' would help diagnose that. --Andre __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Aug. 23, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Problem with xosview SWAP space.

by Karl Hiramoto

ken jones wrote: > I have been running Fedora Core 4 for at least a year. It has the > problem of slow consumption of swap space - see graphic. After a week > or two it runs out and LINUX crashes. > > I have found no help in GOOGLE which surprises me. Did I install > incorrectly? What do you all think? > I would guess you have a memory leak in an application, kernel, or kernel driver module. Should be able to see what the cause is. send us more info on your system do these commands and paste us the results: ps auxw lspci uname -a lsmod vmstat dmesg

Aug. 23, 2006

Problem with xosview SWAP space.

by ken jones

Aug. 23, 2006

Re: [Wlug] storrage suggestion

by Karl Hiramoto

Doug Mildram wrote: >>> i know i can buy a linux PC, and slap in 11 or more 500 GB disks and do >>> > this RAID5. > > doug> Hate to disrespect our beloved wlug-favorite-OS, but, > Linux for NFS server may be a bad choice....a bad implementation, > I say from 2.4-kernel experience and I dont THINK it improved in 2.6. > (have you used linux NFS server in demanding/loaded situations? > ...the linux load avg goes to 20 as it becomes useless.) I have setup a few servers with 1TB, 1.5TB and 2TB doing NFS, mainly for video streaming and at most 15-20 NFS clients. Using kernel 2.6.15.7 for a while now with no performance complaints. I have seen 15 NFS clients streaming DVD quality mpeg2 video (9mbps) work nicely. Getting over 2TB, tho starts to be a lot of disks and there are heat problems, also problems finding enough drive bays. -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/

Aug. 22, 2006

Re: [Wlug] storrage suggestion

by Karl Hiramoto

John Stoffel wrote: > Karl> * >= 5TB disk space > Karl> * iSCSI, ATA over Ethernet, or NFS mountable to linux >= 2.6.15 > > Karl> *RAID (must survive single disk failure) and must know when a failure > Karl> happened. > > Let me recommend RAID6 to you as well. > > Karl> * $$/TB is important. > > The most important? > $10K is probably the upper limit. > Karl> * Must be able to sustain minimum 10MB/s disk read on Gbit > Karl> network. normally these will be big multimedia files. > > That's *slow*, are you sure you didn't drop an order of magnitude > here? > > Yes I don't need that much speed, but need a lot of space. In reality most solutions out there will have much higher speeds. > Karl> Yes, i know i can buy a linux PC, and slap in 11 or more 500 GB > Karl> disks and do this RAID5. Something off the shelf, and easy to > Karl> service would be nice. > > It's all a question of budget. Getting a box with a bunch of 3ware > controllers talking to SATA drives in hot-swap bays might be the > ticket. You'll get decent performance too, though not stellar. > Software RAID can be faster, but the 3ware can/should insulate you > from the hardware hot-swap issues. > > Should. > > Take a look at JetStor, or the ATAbeast boxes. They were around > $14k/2Tb three years ago, so they must be cheaper/better now. > > Thanks for those ideas. I also found coraid to be reasonably priced. http://coraid.com/products.html > What about backups? > No, need for backups, as this data is from other sources (mainly DVD, CD) , and could be restored from original media. -- -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/

Aug. 22, 2006

Re: [Wlug] storrage suggestion

by John Stoffel

Karl> * >= 5TB disk space Karl> * iSCSI, ATA over Ethernet, or NFS mountable to linux >= 2.6.15 Karl> *RAID (must survive single disk failure) and must know when a failure Karl> happened. Let me recommend RAID6 to you as well. Karl> * $$/TB is important. The most important? Karl> * Must be able to sustain minimum 10MB/s disk read on Gbit Karl> network. normally these will be big multimedia files. That's *slow*, are you sure you didn't drop an order of magnitude here? Karl> Yes, i know i can buy a linux PC, and slap in 11 or more 500 GB Karl> disks and do this RAID5. Something off the shelf, and easy to Karl> service would be nice. It's all a question of budget. Getting a box with a bunch of 3ware controllers talking to SATA drives in hot-swap bays might be the ticket. You'll get decent performance too, though not stellar. Software RAID can be faster, but the 3ware can/should insulate you from the hardware hot-swap issues. Should. Take a look at JetStor, or the ATAbeast boxes. They were around $14k/2Tb three years ago, so they must be cheaper/better now. What about backups? John

Aug. 22, 2006

storrage suggestion

by Karl Hiramoto

Anyone have suggestions? i need: * >= 5TB disk space * iSCSI, ATA over Ethernet, or NFS mountable to linux >= 2.6.15 *RAID (must survive single disk failure) and must know when a failure happened. * $$/TB is important. * Must be able to sustain minimum 10MB/s disk read on Gbit network. normally these will be big multimedia files. Yes, i know i can buy a linux PC, and slap in 11 or more 500 GB disks and do this RAID5. Something off the shelf, and easy to service would be nice. -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/

Aug. 22, 2006

Re: [Wlug] router/printing problems

by Justin Odom

Is there any particular reason you are using a 2 router setup? (other than the provided wireless router has poor range?) You could just plug one of the switch ports on the linksys into a switch port on the actiontek and use the linksys as a wap. 2. In gateway setting, all traffic passing from your linksys to the actiontek router is being nat'd through 192.168.1.20. In router mode, all traffic is passing through with its native 192.168.2.0/24 addresses. I think you will have to set up a static route on the actiontek to get the 192.168.2.0/24 to be nat'd out. What does the routing table on the actiontek look like right now? Justin On 8/22/06, Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > Thanks for all the suggestions from the group. > > There were several requests for a more clear description of the > setup. Here it is: > > > Verizon FIOS DSL <=> > Actiontek router (192.168.1.1) <=> > LinkSys router (192.168.1.20 <=> 192.168.2.1) > > Linux box (with samba printer): 192.168.1.14 > > windows box (needing to print): 192.168.2.200 > > The fix: > 1. Enable printing from 192.168.2.x in the samba setup. (I'm not > sure that helped, because the LinkSys router was set up as a > gateway, thus the print request showed up from 192.168.1.20.) > > 2. Set up a route to the 192.168.2.x network on my linux box. > > 3. Lots of mucking around with the LinkSys. I also opened it up to > all outside access. I also set "dynamic routing". > > 4. Whacked at the windows box quite a bit. It finally (magically?) > started working. > > Unresolved questions: > > 1. What did I do to make it work? > > 2. Why do I need to keep the LinkSys set with the "gateway" rather > than the "router" setting? If I set "router", then I can access > between the 2 networks nicely, but the 192.168.2.x will not route > to the internet. Maybe I needed a static route? > > It would be nice to understand what was the key. I'd also like to > understand how to set the LinkSys as a router rather than a gateway, > but at least it works and my wife is no longer reminding me how much > linux messes things up. :-) > > Thanks, > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 22, 2006

Re: [Wlug] router/printing problems

by Bill Mills-Curran

Thanks for all the suggestions from the group. There were several requests for a more clear description of the setup. Here it is: Verizon FIOS DSL <=> Actiontek router (192.168.1.1) <=> LinkSys router (192.168.1.20 <=> 192.168.2.1) Linux box (with samba printer): 192.168.1.14 windows box (needing to print): 192.168.2.200 The fix: 1. Enable printing from 192.168.2.x in the samba setup. (I'm not sure that helped, because the LinkSys router was set up as a gateway, thus the print request showed up from 192.168.1.20.) 2. Set up a route to the 192.168.2.x network on my linux box. 3. Lots of mucking around with the LinkSys. I also opened it up to all outside access. I also set "dynamic routing". 4. Whacked at the windows box quite a bit. It finally (magically?) started working. Unresolved questions: 1. What did I do to make it work? 2. Why do I need to keep the LinkSys set with the "gateway" rather than the "router" setting? If I set "router", then I can access between the 2 networks nicely, but the 192.168.2.x will not route to the internet. Maybe I needed a static route? It would be nice to understand what was the key. I'd also like to understand how to set the LinkSys as a router rather than a gateway, but at least it works and my wife is no longer reminding me how much linux messes things up. :-) Thanks, Bill

Aug. 22, 2006

Mailing List with web post interface

by Michael Zarozinski

Does anyone know of a mailing list package that allows you to post via a web form along with the standard email interface?

Aug. 21, 2006

Re: [Wlug] router/printing problems

by Jared Greenwald

To my knowledge, that is the case. I had a previous configuration that involved wireless and wired. I didn't have anything to broadcast wireless other than my linksys wireless router, but I didn't want to use that as the outside-facing router, so that I could have more control than just the NAT the linksys provided. Anyway, I ended up with a strange configuration. On the router Linux box, I had three NICs: one outward facing, one that serves 192.168.1.x, and one that serves 192.168.2.x. The .1.x network is my main network on which I run a fixed-address dhcp as well as local dns and share my printers. The NIC that served the 1.x network was plugged into a switch that services the rest of the house. The 2.x network is kinda tricky. This network was only connected directly to the WAN port of the linksys - so the linksys was "thinking" that it was doing stuff (explaination follows). On the linksys, all forwarding and dhcp was turned off (dhcp is served from the Linux router). What I did was put a crossover cable from one of the switch ports on the router directly to the switch that was serving the 1.x network. This allows any client (wired or wireless) to connect directly to the 1.x network without ever having to deal with the 2.x private network and the effect is that the linksys is an access point without being an access point. It also allows me to share printers and drives across mac/windows/linux (I have all three) without crossing over subnets. (The main reason for me doing this is that its more cost effective usually since routers can usually be found on sale for $30, while access points are usually $100+.) I've recently replaced the router with a straight access point, thus eliminating the need for the 2.x network. I can furnish a diagram upon request. -Jared On 8/21/06, Bill Smith <wsmith(a)chezsmith.com> wrote: > On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:41:17 -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > >I have a home network with 2 routers. > > > >My 192.168.2.x network has a couple of windows boxes (some wireless) > >behind a linkSys router. This network feeds to my 192.168.1.x network > >which connects to the internet through a second router. My linux box > >(samba print server) is on the 192.168.1.x network and has a static > >IP. I just moved to this setup when I got Verizon FIOS. (Their > >wireless router has poor range.) > > > >Problem. Since moving, I can't print to the samba-served printer from > >the windows boxes. I have modified samba to accept connections from > >the 192.168.2.x machines. Here's my samba log for the machine that > >tries to print. > > I might well be mistaken, but don't Windows systems have to be on the > same network to interact with each other? > > If that is indeed the case, then the Windows systems won't be able to > work with the Samba server very easily. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com > Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com > > "For every complex problem, there is an answer which is > short, simple and wrong." -- H.L. Mencken > * TAG! v3.2 * > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >

Aug. 21, 2006

Re: [Wlug] router/printing problems

by Bill Smith

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:41:17 -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: >I have a home network with 2 routers. > >My 192.168.2.x network has a couple of windows boxes (some wireless) >behind a linkSys router. This network feeds to my 192.168.1.x network >which connects to the internet through a second router. My linux box >(samba print server) is on the 192.168.1.x network and has a static >IP. I just moved to this setup when I got Verizon FIOS. (Their >wireless router has poor range.) > >Problem. Since moving, I can't print to the samba-served printer from >the windows boxes. I have modified samba to accept connections from >the 192.168.2.x machines. Here's my samba log for the machine that >tries to print. I might well be mistaken, but don't Windows systems have to be on the same network to interact with each other? If that is indeed the case, then the Windows systems won't be able to work with the Samba server very easily. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "For every complex problem, there is an answer which is short, simple and wrong." -- H.L. Mencken * TAG! v3.2 *

Aug. 21, 2006

Re: [Wlug] router/printing problems

by Christoph

How are the networks configured? subnet mask, broadcast, routes, etc... what devices deliver dhcp, and what clients use it? How are the routers configured? Route/Bridge? My hunch... you need a static route for 192.168.2.x on the Linux box since it's default route probably points towards the internet. Or, put the static route on the main (other) router. That probably makes more sense... Just guessing though. -cfd On Sun, 2006-08-20 at 22:48 -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 10:41:17PM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:41:17 -0400 > > From: Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> > > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)wlug.org>, BLU Discuss <discuss(a)blu.org> > > Cc: > > Subject: router/printing problems > > Precedence: list > > > > I have a home network with 2 routers. > > > > My 192.168.2.x network has a couple of windows boxes (some wireless) > > behind a linkSys router. This network feeds to my 192.168.1.x network > > which connects to the internet through a second router. My linux box > > (samba print server) is on the 192.168.1.x network and has a static > > IP. I just moved to this setup when I got Verizon FIOS. (Their > > wireless router has poor range.) > > > > Problem. Since moving, I can't print to the samba-served printer from > > the windows boxes. I have modified samba to accept connections from > > the 192.168.2.x machines. Here's my samba log for the machine that > > tries to print. > > > > [2006/08/20 04:02:21, 1] smbd/server.c:open_sockets_smbd(353) > > Reloading services after SIGHUP > > [2006/08/20 22:17:10, 0] smbd/server.c:main(798) > > smbd version 3.0.14a-2 started. > > Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2004 > > [2006/08/20 22:27:29, 0] tdb/tdbutil.c:tdb_log(725) > > tdb(/var/cache/samba/printing/hp.tdb): rec_read bad magic 0xd9fee666 > > at offset=175296 > > [2006/08/20 22:28:09, 0] tdb/tdbutil.c:tdb_log(725) > > tdb(/var/cache/samba/printing/hp.tdb): rec_read bad magic 0xd9fee666 > > at offset=175296 > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > TIA, > > Bill > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss(a)blu.org > > http://olduvai.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > The previous was the smbd.log. Here's the one for the client > 192.168.1.153.log: > > [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 0] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1150) > getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected > [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 0] lib/access.c:check_access(328) > [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 0] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1150) > getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected > Denied connection from (0.0.0.0) > [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 1] smbd/process.c:process_smb(1084) > [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 0] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1150) > getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected > Connection denied from 0.0.0.0 > [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_socket_data(430) > write_socket_data: write failure. Error = Connection reset by peer > [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_socket(455) > write_socket: Error writing 5 bytes to socket 24: ERRNO = Connection > reset by > peer > [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 0] lib/util_sock.c:send_smb(647) > Error writing 5 bytes to client. -1. (Connection reset by peer) > [2006/08/20 22:28:32, 0] tdb/tdbutil.c:tdb_log(725) > tdb(/var/cache/samba/printing/hp.tdb): rec_free_read bad magic > 0x42424242 at offset=673736 > > Bill >

Aug. 21, 2006

Re: [Wlug] router/printing problems

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 10:41:17PM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:41:17 -0400 > From: Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)wlug.org>, BLU Discuss <discuss(a)blu.org> > Cc: > Subject: router/printing problems > Precedence: list > > I have a home network with 2 routers. > > My 192.168.2.x network has a couple of windows boxes (some wireless) > behind a linkSys router. This network feeds to my 192.168.1.x network > which connects to the internet through a second router. My linux box > (samba print server) is on the 192.168.1.x network and has a static > IP. I just moved to this setup when I got Verizon FIOS. (Their > wireless router has poor range.) > > Problem. Since moving, I can't print to the samba-served printer from > the windows boxes. I have modified samba to accept connections from > the 192.168.2.x machines. Here's my samba log for the machine that > tries to print. > > [2006/08/20 04:02:21, 1] smbd/server.c:open_sockets_smbd(353) > Reloading services after SIGHUP > [2006/08/20 22:17:10, 0] smbd/server.c:main(798) > smbd version 3.0.14a-2 started. > Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2004 > [2006/08/20 22:27:29, 0] tdb/tdbutil.c:tdb_log(725) > tdb(/var/cache/samba/printing/hp.tdb): rec_read bad magic 0xd9fee666 > at offset=175296 > [2006/08/20 22:28:09, 0] tdb/tdbutil.c:tdb_log(725) > tdb(/var/cache/samba/printing/hp.tdb): rec_read bad magic 0xd9fee666 > at offset=175296 > > Any suggestions? > > TIA, > Bill > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss(a)blu.org > http://olduvai.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss The previous was the smbd.log. Here's the one for the client 192.168.1.153.log: [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 0] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1150) getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 0] lib/access.c:check_access(328) [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 0] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1150) getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected Denied connection from (0.0.0.0) [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 1] smbd/process.c:process_smb(1084) [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 0] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1150) getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected Connection denied from 0.0.0.0 [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_socket_data(430) write_socket_data: write failure. Error = Connection reset by peer [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_socket(455) write_socket: Error writing 5 bytes to socket 24: ERRNO = Connection reset by peer [2006/08/20 22:27:25, 0] lib/util_sock.c:send_smb(647) Error writing 5 bytes to client. -1. (Connection reset by peer) [2006/08/20 22:28:32, 0] tdb/tdbutil.c:tdb_log(725) tdb(/var/cache/samba/printing/hp.tdb): rec_free_read bad magic 0x42424242 at offset=673736 Bill

Aug. 21, 2006

router/printing problems

by Bill Mills-Curran

I have a home network with 2 routers. My 192.168.2.x network has a couple of windows boxes (some wireless) behind a linkSys router. This network feeds to my 192.168.1.x network which connects to the internet through a second router. My linux box (samba print server) is on the 192.168.1.x network and has a static IP. I just moved to this setup when I got Verizon FIOS. (Their wireless router has poor range.) Problem. Since moving, I can't print to the samba-served printer from the windows boxes. I have modified samba to accept connections from the 192.168.2.x machines. Here's my samba log for the machine that tries to print. [2006/08/20 04:02:21, 1] smbd/server.c:open_sockets_smbd(353) Reloading services after SIGHUP [2006/08/20 22:17:10, 0] smbd/server.c:main(798) smbd version 3.0.14a-2 started. Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2004 [2006/08/20 22:27:29, 0] tdb/tdbutil.c:tdb_log(725) tdb(/var/cache/samba/printing/hp.tdb): rec_read bad magic 0xd9fee666 at offset=175296 [2006/08/20 22:28:09, 0] tdb/tdbutil.c:tdb_log(725) tdb(/var/cache/samba/printing/hp.tdb): rec_read bad magic 0xd9fee666 at offset=175296 Any suggestions? TIA, Bill

Aug. 21, 2006

Re: [Wlug] DNS and PPP

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, Upon further investigation, it appears that the dns server is not replying when the palmtx makes its dns request. The dns server does reply to everybody else on my network. I'll have to look at the dnsmasq configuration to see why that might be happening. I turned on logging for dnsmasq, and it definitely receives the query, and it receives a reply from the upstream dns server, but it doesn't send a reply to the palmtx. I turned off the firewalling to see if it was eating the dns reply, but that doesn't seem to be happening. More news later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE5SnOHl0iXDssISsRArkAAJ0cejcUErAjfMGGmnbd4IKN1IrP6gCeKv/R AAPd7HDzK2lR5W2/3REYov0= =2QZu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 18, 2006

Re: [Wlug] DNS and PPP

by John Stoffel

Andy> I have a setup like this: Andy> palmtx -> computer --> firewall/dns_server Andy> The connection between the palmtx and the computer is a PPP Andy> connection (ppp0) over bluetooth, which works fine between the Andy> palmtx and the computer. More details please. IP addresses, routes, netstat -rn on the computer, etc. Also, do you have iptables turned on the computer, or any other firewalling type of software? So when the DNS response comes back, what do your NAT table logs and such say? Andy> The connection between the computer and the firewall is ethernet (eth0), Andy> and it also works fine. Andy> My problem is that I can't get the palmtx to get dns responses back from Andy> the dns server. Andy> I ran ethereal on eth0 and ppp0. I can see the DNS query go from the Andy> palmtx to the computer, and out to the firewall on eth0. The firewall Andy> responds onto eth0, but the computer doesn't seem to be sending that Andy> back to the palmtx on ppp0. Andy> On the computer, routing is enabled (or the dns server wouldn't have Andy> seen the initial request). The route table has the entry (1st in the Andy> list) for the PPP connection. Andy> iptables is set to accept everything. Andy> What did I miss? Andy> Thanks! Andy> Andy Andy> - -- Andy> Andy Stewart, Founder Andy> Worcester Linux Users' Group Andy> Worcester, MA, USA Andy> http://www.wlug.org Andy> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Andy> Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Andy> Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org Andy> iD8DBQFE4+1tHl0iXDssISsRAmVEAJ4/yMPiP3Qrm8twHyLxdgJYKJEAtQCfeGmw Andy> 4J+q1cxJh9v6GyjomZPMSEg= Andy> =0wJS Andy> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Andy> _______________________________________________ Andy> Wlug mailing list Andy> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Andy> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Andy> !DSPAM:44e3eed4103371184020261!

Aug. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] DNS and PPP

by Jamie Guinan

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Andy Stewart wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > HI gang, > > I have a setup like this: > > palmtx -> computer --> firewall/dns_server > > The connection between the palmtx and the computer is a PPP connection > (ppp0) over bluetooth, which works fine between the palmtx and the computer. > > The connection between the computer and the firewall is ethernet (eth0), > and it also works fine. > > My problem is that I can't get the palmtx to get dns responses back from > the dns server. > > I ran ethereal on eth0 and ppp0. I can see the DNS query go from the > palmtx to the computer, and out to the firewall on eth0. The firewall > responds onto eth0, but the computer doesn't seem to be sending that > back to the palmtx on ppp0. > > On the computer, routing is enabled (or the dns server wouldn't have > seen the initial request). The route table has the entry (1st in the > list) for the PPP connection. > > iptables is set to accept everything. > > What did I miss? > > Thanks! > > Andy Hi Andy, So are you doing NAT for the palmtx via the computer? What about, $ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward Is it set to "1"? -Jamie

Aug. 17, 2006

DNS and PPP

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, I have a setup like this: palmtx -> computer --> firewall/dns_server The connection between the palmtx and the computer is a PPP connection (ppp0) over bluetooth, which works fine between the palmtx and the computer. The connection between the computer and the firewall is ethernet (eth0), and it also works fine. My problem is that I can't get the palmtx to get dns responses back from the dns server. I ran ethereal on eth0 and ppp0. I can see the DNS query go from the palmtx to the computer, and out to the firewall on eth0. The firewall responds onto eth0, but the computer doesn't seem to be sending that back to the palmtx on ppp0. On the computer, routing is enabled (or the dns server wouldn't have seen the initial request). The route table has the entry (1st in the list) for the PPP connection. iptables is set to accept everything. What did I miss? Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE4+1tHl0iXDssISsRAmVEAJ4/yMPiP3Qrm8twHyLxdgJYKJEAtQCfeGmw 4J+q1cxJh9v6GyjomZPMSEg= =0wJS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Linux laptops

by Andrew Robert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I saw some activity inquiring about Linux laptops recently and then came across this. Lenovo has introduced a laptop running SLED 10. Here is the link if you are interested. http://www.betanews.com/article/Lenovo_Debuts_SUSE_Linux_Portables/11556557… - -- Adversity: That which does not kill me only postpones the inevitable. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPT 2.7.2 iD8DBQFE4iAdDvn/4H0LjDwRAmCZAJ4o0L6niZYocdlDa00J7AN/nIg3qgCeP3gT hgCeGxNR4leocT8EcdrR2AE= =y56v -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 15, 2006

FUSE - sshfs: GOT IT

by ken jones

Aug. 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] FUSE??

by freak4uxxx＠gmail.com

>From what I understand, fuse is the lower layer of filesystems such as captive ntfs and shfs. Captive ntfs uses the win32 drivers for ntfs via user space to allow you to write to an ntfs partition. Shfs is one of a few remote via ssh file systems. -Eric -----Original Message----- From: ken jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> Subj: [Wlug] FUSE?? Date: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:03 pm Size: 907 bytes To: WLUG Mailing list <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Would somebody please explain to me what exactly FUSE does? I succeeded in using fusexmp to mount my root directory into /tmp/fuse2.5.3/example. I also succeeded in unmounting with fusermount -u. I do not understand why I should want to. This all started when I upgraded the kernel and the type ntfs file system on the other half of my dual mounted system refused to "mount". I got distracted into FUSE then remembered to install the matching kernel-module-ntfs below. Now I am again successfully using 'smbmount' to mount ntfs file types. I am running Fedora 2.6.17-1.2142_FC4 with kernel-module-ntfs-2.6.17-1.2142_FC4-2.1.27-0.rr.10.4.i686.rpm What good is FUSE to me? I've Googled till the cows come home, but I do not understand the responses. Ken Jones _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] FUSE??

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike Leo wrote: > well, my first responce was that it was an encryption system for disks, but then found > http://www.ricardis.tudelft.nl/~vincent/fusesmb/ saying it is a network browsing system. > > then also found: > > http://rescuecd.pld-linux.org/download/2006-06-18/RPMS > > which lists fuse as the following: > > ntfsprogs-fuse 1.13.0-3 NTFS FUSE module (ntfsmount) > and > libfuse 2.5.3-3 Filesystem in Userspace > > so, i guess my answer is i have no idea There are many different projects that come under the umbrella of FUSE: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE3rW2Hl0iXDssISsRAqUFAKCFGTA01n+sSBs0wxaBKUieJx5APQCfZxc9 /86DS9+0r3DmHfwHD3azeKk= =2F0y -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] FUSE??

by Jamie Guinan

On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 12:31:45AM -0400, Eric Stein wrote: > > eastein@pippin:~/Desktop$ sshfs -d ccc.wpi.edu:~ ccc/ > > eastein(a)ccc.wpi.edu's password: > > fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied > > eastein@pippin:~/Desktop$ > > > > The same thing worked when I tried it as root. Help! > > And there's the rub with FUSE. You need a setuid-root helper to > perform the actual mount. Check the permissions on > /usr/bin/fusermount. On my system, they've set it up for setuid-root > but Fedora has deemed this to be enough of a security risk that you > have to be in the fuse group to run it: > > -rwsr-xr-- 1 root fuse 22512 May 3 09:49 /usr/bin/fusermount Good point, I should amend my earlier comment to be "no root access on the local side... other than the setuid wrapper", and add "no root access for needed for config files on the local side". Gentoo leaves it open by default (for better or worse) $ ls -l $(which fusermount) -rws--x--x 1 root root 18848 May 9 16:46 /usr/bin/fusermount My /bin/mount has the same perms, btw. -Jamie

Aug. 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Cookout...

by Jamie Guinan

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Great fun! Many thanks to our hosts, Jamie and especially Karen, for > all the great food! We had a great time as well, so glad everyone made it! I passed along your thanks to Karen. <shamelessplug> And don't forget to tune into Karen's new age and acoustic program "Tonal Vision", 6-9pm Sunday evening, 90.5 FM or online at wicn.org </shamelessplug>. > Looking forward to the pictures! ;-) I have a few, I'll post them soon... -Jamie > Steve

Aug. 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] FUSE??

by Chuck Anderson

On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 12:31:45AM -0400, Eric Stein wrote: > eastein@pippin:~/Desktop$ sshfs -d ccc.wpi.edu:~ ccc/ > eastein(a)ccc.wpi.edu's password: > fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied > eastein@pippin:~/Desktop$ > > The same thing worked when I tried it as root. Help! And there's the rub with FUSE. You need a setuid-root helper to perform the actual mount. Check the permissions on /usr/bin/fusermount. On my system, they've set it up for setuid-root but Fedora has deemed this to be enough of a security risk that you have to be in the fuse group to run it: -rwsr-xr-- 1 root fuse 22512 May 3 09:49 /usr/bin/fusermount

Aug. 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] FUSE??

by Eric Stein

> I've been using the "sshfs" fuse module, and its one of the greatest > things I've experienced in Linux in recent years. > > Lets say you have ssh access to another machine, you need to have FUSE > support on your local kernel, then its just a matter of, > > mkdir ~/ssh/otherhost > sshfs -o idmap=user me@otherhost:/ ~/ssh/otherhost > ls ~/ssh/otherhost > > It sets up an sftp (ssh ftp protocol) session in the background, > and I can now access whatever files I would have access to via > ssh/sftp, right on my local system. Basically, it reduces, > > ssh otherhost > cd somedir/ > $EDITOR foo.txt > exit > > to, > > cd ssh/otherhost/somedir/ > $EDITOR foo.txt > > Working with files reduces to "mv", "cp", etc. > > No need for kioslaves, gnome-vfs, or other such madness. > > When I'm done, > > fusermount -u ~/ssh/otherhost > > At least on the small scale, which is all I really care about, it is > SO much easier than setting up NFS, I don't even build NFS support > into my kernels anymore. *No* setup is required on the other side > (other than running sshd), no root access required on local side. > > I wouldn't be surprised if Plan9 and other OSs have had similar > capabilities, but I haven't spent enough time with them, maybe > someone else can comment. In any case, it works on Linux, and > I'm happy. > > -Jamie After reading this I wanted to try out sshfs, so: eastein@pippin:~/Desktop$ sshfs -d ccc.wpi.edu:~ ccc/ eastein(a)ccc.wpi.edu's password: fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied eastein@pippin:~/Desktop$ The same thing worked when I tried it as root. Help! Eric

Aug. 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] FUSE??

by Jamie Guinan

Hi, On Sat, 12 Aug 2006, ken jones wrote: > Would somebody please explain to me what exactly FUSE does? "With FUSE it is possible to implement a fully functional filesystem in a userspace program." Why is this good? Because *anything* you can think of that you'd like to access as a filesystem, you can, without writing a kernel driver. http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems It works via the fuse module, /dev/fuse, and some (transparent) helper programs. > What good is FUSE to me? I've Googled till the cows come home, but I do > not understand the responses. I've been using the "sshfs" fuse module, and its one of the greatest things I've experienced in Linux in recent years. Lets say you have ssh access to another machine, you need to have FUSE support on your local kernel, then its just a matter of, mkdir ~/ssh/otherhost sshfs -o idmap=user me@otherhost:/ ~/ssh/otherhost ls ~/ssh/otherhost It sets up an sftp (ssh ftp protocol) session in the background, and I can now access whatever files I would have access to via ssh/sftp, right on my local system. Basically, it reduces, ssh otherhost cd somedir/ $EDITOR foo.txt exit to, cd ssh/otherhost/somedir/ $EDITOR foo.txt Working with files reduces to "mv", "cp", etc. No need for kioslaves, gnome-vfs, or other such madness. When I'm done, fusermount -u ~/ssh/otherhost At least on the small scale, which is all I really care about, it is SO much easier than setting up NFS, I don't even build NFS support into my kernels anymore. *No* setup is required on the other side (other than running sshd), no root access required on local side. I wouldn't be surprised if Plan9 and other OSs have had similar capabilities, but I haven't spent enough time with them, maybe someone else can comment. In any case, it works on Linux, and I'm happy. -Jamie

Aug. 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] FUSE??

by Mike Leo

well, my first responce was that it was an encryption system for disks, but then found http://www.ricardis.tudelft.nl/~vincent/fusesmb/ saying it is a network browsing system. then also found: http://rescuecd.pld-linux.org/download/2006-06-18/RPMS which lists fuse as the following: ntfsprogs-fuse 1.13.0-3 NTFS FUSE module (ntfsmount) and libfuse 2.5.3-3 Filesystem in Userspace so, i guess my answer is i have no idea --- ken jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Would somebody please explain to me what exactly FUSE does? > > I succeeded in using fusexmp to mount my root directory into > /tmp/fuse2.5.3/example. I also succeeded in unmounting with fusermount > -u. I do not understand why I should want to. > > This all started when I upgraded the kernel and the type ntfs file > system on the other half of my dual mounted system refused to "mount". > I got distracted into FUSE then remembered to install the matching > kernel-module-ntfs below. > > Now I am again successfully using 'smbmount' to mount ntfs file types. > I am running Fedora 2.6.17-1.2142_FC4 with > kernel-module-ntfs-2.6.17-1.2142_FC4-2.1.27-0.rr.10.4.i686.rpm > > What good is FUSE to me? I've Googled till the cows come home, but I do > not understand the responses. > > Ken Jones > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] FUSE??

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ken jones wrote: > Would somebody please explain to me what exactly FUSE does? > > I succeeded in using fusexmp to mount my root directory into > /tmp/fuse2.5.3/example. I also succeeded in unmounting with fusermount > -u. I do not understand why I should want to. > > This all started when I upgraded the kernel and the type ntfs file > system on the other half of my dual mounted system refused to "mount". > I got distracted into FUSE then remembered to install the matching > kernel-module-ntfs below. > > Now I am again successfully using 'smbmount' to mount ntfs file types. > I am running Fedora 2.6.17-1.2142_FC4 with > kernel-module-ntfs-2.6.17-1.2142_FC4-2.1.27-0.rr.10.4.i686.rpm > > What good is FUSE to me? I've Googled till the cows come home, but I do > not understand the responses. > > Ken Jones > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > Well, let me take a crack at this one. FUSE = FileSystems in user space (you knew that....) An example: I use sshfs (http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html) to mount a file system which I can access via ssh but cannot mount it via NFS (because the file system is behind a firewall). I can mount it as a mere user (not root). Traditionally, all file system mounts had to be done as root (relaxed later for removeable media such as floppies, CD/DVD, USB memory, etc). In the case of NTFS, I'm not sure I see an advantage either way. Perhaps FUSE is just another way to access data stored on an NTFS partition. I'm not certain, but I think the "big deal" about FUSE is that the user can do it without requiring root. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE3prPHl0iXDssISsRAvcsAJ9dinyw3LK+2dTu9P4rw/uSr5pZjwCfUeiM wKhz03ccqcKLbUzOwW6DkIY= =W8vK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 13, 2006

FUSE??

by ken jones

Would somebody please explain to me what exactly FUSE does? I succeeded in using fusexmp to mount my root directory into /tmp/fuse2.5.3/example. I also succeeded in unmounting with fusermount -u. I do not understand why I should want to. This all started when I upgraded the kernel and the type ntfs file system on the other half of my dual mounted system refused to "mount". I got distracted into FUSE then remembered to install the matching kernel-module-ntfs below. Now I am again successfully using 'smbmount' to mount ntfs file types. I am running Fedora 2.6.17-1.2142_FC4 with kernel-module-ntfs-2.6.17-1.2142_FC4-2.1.27-0.rr.10.4.i686.rpm What good is FUSE to me? I've Googled till the cows come home, but I do not understand the responses. Ken Jones

Aug. 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Chuck Anderson

On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 07:05:27AM -0400, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > The Aspire has 128meg ATI X1400 video card the others have the built in > Intel Accel 950 chip > > Not bad for the money... 1280 x 800 resolution strikes me as > "different" though - perhaps for DVD wide screen? I would pick the models with the built-in Intel Accel 950 chip or equivalent. There are open source 3D video accelerated drivers for those. You might need a little open source utility to set the VESA BIOS video resolution table for WXGA, though. I recently worked on one and had to get a program called "855resolution" or "915resolution", which runs at bootup. Xorg worked fine at 1400x1050 after that. http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Chuck Anderson

On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 09:31:59AM -0400, Scott Venier wrote: > Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > > Scott Venier wrote: > > > >> > > It is an A20m. My wife got it a number of years ago so she could be > > away from the office more easily... When this problem first began, I > > thought it was windows so I blew everything away and reinstalled (twice > > over a 6 month period). Didn't make a difference. I have heard from > > others that this is known to happen, from time to time, with some thinkpad > > models. I found it interesting to note a review of one of the new IBM > > laptops as stating that "it runs hot". > > > I've had both a T23 and a T42 and the only time I had a heat problem was > when the fan on the T23 died. And generally, the fan only runs when under > heavy cpu load. I haven't had any issues with my T42p either.

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] BBQ

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Robert wrote: > Hi Jamie, > > I have a 2 1/2 month old puggle (part pug/part beagle) named Maggie. > > She is quite a handful but has been a great addition to the family. > > Look for the bald guy walking a dog that looks like a min-mastiff, thats me. > > As for the next meeting, when and where? The next meeting is scheduled for Thursday, Sept 7th at 7:00 PM at WPI. Directions and details are on the WLUG website (click the yellow box near the top that says "WLUG Meetings". See ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE3gS7Hl0iXDssISsRAgcGAJ9nrFrhX8whtznPtIp17AH/exlJ+wCfc7uX tl7oLfCY49V4tkO/IoPIaCk= =pmZ1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] BBQ

by Andrew Robert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jamie, I have a 2 1/2 month old puggle (part pug/part beagle) named Maggie. She is quite a handful but has been a great addition to the family. Look for the bald guy walking a dog that looks like a min-mastiff, thats me. As for the next meeting, when and where? Jamie Guinan wrote: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2006, Andrew Robert wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I was walking my dog this morning and I noticed the chalk advertisement >> for the WLUG bbq. >> >> I've never had an opportunity to attend a meeting but would like to >> finally meet some in the group. >> >> Can anyone attend or should I wait to meet people at the next meeting? > > Hi Andy, > > This is Jamie, that's my driveway. :) > > The BBQ was this past Thursday, sorry you missed it. I should > probably hose off the chalk, although maybe its a good thing I > left it since you found it! > > Do come to the next meeting, although it sounds like we have a > mini-lug right here in the neighborhood. > > -Jamie > > p.s. What kind of dog do you have? I've probably seen you walk by. > >> Thanks, >> Andy > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPT 2.7.2 iD8DBQFE3gKuDvn/4H0LjDwRArTzAKCHBFBeQYmvVTbYd6d61yUqZPCjzwCgj4b8 I1JCavnQ3LRov+uxHeD9mDQ= =7x8G -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Robert L Krawitz

Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 10:48:58 -0400 From: "Brian J. Conway" <bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu> On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:40:19 -0400 Robert L Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:26:17 -0400 > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > > I've noticed many people at work with their laptops, and they seem > to have an LCD which has wide screen dimensions. This might be > fine for viewing DVDs, but having not used one, I'm not sure how > I'd feel using one for daily work. Its not like you can rotate the > LCD on a laptop to "landscape mode" like you can with some other > LCD monitors (which seems like a nice feature!). > > I'm not a fan of widescreens myself. For things like text editing > it's useless, and it's none too helpful for web browsing either. How so? I've been using my girlfriend's new light-n-mobile-style laptop off and on, with a widescreen LCD with a native resolution of 1280x800. I haven't found it to be any different than my 1280x1024 or higher desktops' LCDs other than having slightly shorter web browser windows. Think about what happens if you're using emacs with a 6x10 font. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gutenprint -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by David Glaser

Wide screens are nice when you are doing IDEs or Visual Modleing tools. Usually, on the left or right hand side, there is an explorer pane that is used to display different kinds of hierarchies or tables. The extra width allows you to have the explorer and a decent sized diagram on the screen at the same time. -David ========== Robert L Krawitz wrote: > Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:26:17 -0400 > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > > I've noticed many people at work with their laptops, and they seem > to have an LCD which has wide screen dimensions. This might be > fine for viewing DVDs, but having not used one, I'm not sure how > I'd feel using one for daily work. Its not like you can rotate the > LCD on a laptop to "landscape mode" like you can with some other > LCD monitors (which seems like a nice feature!). > >I'm not a fan of widescreens myself. For things like text editing >it's useless, and it's none too helpful for web browsing either. >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Brian J. Conway

On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:40:19 -0400 Robert L Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:26:17 -0400 > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > > I've noticed many people at work with their laptops, and they seem > to have an LCD which has wide screen dimensions. This might be > fine for viewing DVDs, but having not used one, I'm not sure how > I'd feel using one for daily work. Its not like you can rotate the > LCD on a laptop to "landscape mode" like you can with some other > LCD monitors (which seems like a nice feature!). > > I'm not a fan of widescreens myself. For things like text editing > it's useless, and it's none too helpful for web browsing either. How so? I've been using my girlfriend's new light-n-mobile-style laptop off and on, with a widescreen LCD with a native resolution of 1280x800. I haven't found it to be any different than my 1280x1024 or higher desktops' LCDs other than having slightly shorter web browser windows. Brian J. Conway bconway(at)alum.wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] BBQ

by Jamie Guinan

On Sat, 12 Aug 2006, Andrew Robert wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Everyone, > > I was walking my dog this morning and I noticed the chalk advertisement > for the WLUG bbq. > > I've never had an opportunity to attend a meeting but would like to > finally meet some in the group. > > Can anyone attend or should I wait to meet people at the next meeting? Hi Andy, This is Jamie, that's my driveway. :) The BBQ was this past Thursday, sorry you missed it. I should probably hose off the chalk, although maybe its a good thing I left it since you found it! Do come to the next meeting, although it sounds like we have a mini-lug right here in the neighborhood. -Jamie p.s. What kind of dog do you have? I've probably seen you walk by. > Thanks, > Andy

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] BBQ

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Robert wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I was walking my dog this morning and I noticed the chalk advertisement > for the WLUG bbq. LOL! That's awesome! > > I've never had an opportunity to attend a meeting but would like to > finally meet some in the group. > > Can anyone attend or should I wait to meet people at the next meeting? Andy - anybody can attend a WLUG meeting. We meet monthly at WPI in Worcester. Our meeting schedule is posted at http://www.wlug.org. We generally get 12-25 people attending a meeting. If you can't wait and want to meet somebody from WLUG sooner, knock on the door of the house with the chalk in the driveway! :-) See ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE3ePHHl0iXDssISsRAiroAJ9GyivuaStknduN90sTd8bYqmYFSwCeMdPh wQwOwnHsJWCy1EpNzjLoBcY= =Zj66 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Robert L Krawitz

Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:26:17 -0400 From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> I've noticed many people at work with their laptops, and they seem to have an LCD which has wide screen dimensions. This might be fine for viewing DVDs, but having not used one, I'm not sure how I'd feel using one for daily work. Its not like you can rotate the LCD on a laptop to "landscape mode" like you can with some other LCD monitors (which seems like a nice feature!). I'm not a fan of widescreens myself. For things like text editing it's useless, and it's none too helpful for web browsing either.

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Scott Venier

Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Scott Venier wrote: > >> > It is an A20m. My wife got it a number of years ago so she could be > away from the office more easily... When this problem first began, I > thought it was windows so I blew everything away and reinstalled (twice > over a 6 month period). Didn't make a difference. I have heard from > others that this is known to happen, from time to time, with some thinkpad > models. I found it interesting to note a review of one of the new IBM > laptops as stating that "it runs hot". > I've had both a T23 and a T42 and the only time I had a heat problem was when the fan on the T23 died. And generally, the fan only runs when under heavy cpu load. Scott

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Anyone have thoughts on acer? "Linux on Laptops" lists just about every > acer notebook... > A consultant friend of mine sells these "on the side" and thought I > might be interested in one > of these as they are around $1k: > > Acer Aspire AS5672WLMi > Acer Travelmate TM4672WLMi > Acer Travelmate TM4222WLMi > > All are Intel Centrino Duo Mobile Technology, > All have 1gig ddr-2 RAM > All have 15.4 WXGA, > All have DVD-RW(+/-) dUAL lAYER, > All have at least 100gig hard drive (Aspire has SATA drive 120 gig) > All have XP Pro > The Aspire has 128meg ATI X1400 video card the others have the built in > Intel Accel 950 chip > > Not bad for the money... 1280 x 800 resolution strikes me as > "different" though - perhaps for DVD wide screen? > > Steve I've noticed many people at work with their laptops, and they seem to have an LCD which has wide screen dimensions. This might be fine for viewing DVDs, but having not used one, I'm not sure how I'd feel using one for daily work. Its not like you can rotate the LCD on a laptop to "landscape mode" like you can with some other LCD monitors (which seems like a nice feature!). Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE3db5Hl0iXDssISsRAjPtAJ9MaAFhuBzFHBYrQt/k6b9/JutokACfSX/j h+iuTo9A7SENkhqHiAZ0g8U= =Zp8Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Stephen C. Daukas

Scott Venier wrote: > Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > >> And they run hot. So hot, in fact, that the one I have now will >> periodically freeze (melt?) and I have to cycle the power. To get any >> useful time out of it, I have to create an air space beneath the laptop... >> I doubt I would purchase another. >> > Wow. I've heard of them running warm, but never that hot... which model > do you have? > > Scott It is an A20m. My wife got it a number of years ago so she could be away from the office more easily... When this problem first began, I thought it was windows so I blew everything away and reinstalled (twice over a 6 month period). Didn't make a difference. I have heard from others that this is known to happen, from time to time, with some thinkpad models. I found it interesting to note a review of one of the new IBM laptops as stating that "it runs hot". Steve

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Scott Venier

Stephen C. Daukas wrote: >> > And they run hot. So hot, in fact, that the one I have now will > periodically freeze (melt?) and I have to cycle the power. To get any > useful time out of it, I have to create an air space beneath the laptop... > I doubt I would purchase another. > Wow. I've heard of them running warm, but never that hot... which model do you have? Scott

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] BBQ

by Andrew Robert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Everyone, I was walking my dog this morning and I noticed the chalk advertisement for the WLUG bbq. I've never had an opportunity to attend a meeting but would like to finally meet some in the group. Can anyone attend or should I wait to meet people at the next meeting? Thanks, Andy -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPT 2.7.2 iD8DBQFE3c8tDvn/4H0LjDwRAn4+AJ9EXstKBW0iN4bHXqDEz8NeBBUhugCfdvtO 3GmSWOwEMJJ31RfkLP7Dzck= =8YQZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Stephen C. Daukas

Anyone have thoughts on acer? "Linux on Laptops" lists just about every acer notebook... A consultant friend of mine sells these "on the side" and thought I might be interested in one of these as they are around $1k: Acer Aspire AS5672WLMi Acer Travelmate TM4672WLMi Acer Travelmate TM4222WLMi All are Intel Centrino Duo Mobile Technology, All have 1gig ddr-2 RAM All have 15.4 WXGA, All have DVD-RW(+/-) dUAL lAYER, All have at least 100gig hard drive (Aspire has SATA drive 120 gig) All have XP Pro The Aspire has 128meg ATI X1400 video card the others have the built in Intel Accel 950 chip Not bad for the money... 1280 x 800 resolution strikes me as "different" though - perhaps for DVD wide screen? Steve

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Stephen C. Daukas

Andy Stewart wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Scott Venier wrote: > >> I've been looking at picking up a cheap, less then current model thinkpad >> from TigerDirect. The prices are pretty good, and the Linux support for >> ThinkPad hardware is outstanding. Anything that's not a "mobile" P4 will >> have pretty good battery life... just find the most hardware that fits in >> your price range. >> > > Yes, but ThinkPad processors come from the wrong company! :-) > And they run hot. So hot, in fact, that the one I have now will periodically freeze (melt?) and I have to cycle the power. To get any useful time out of it, I have to create an air space beneath the laptop... I doubt I would purchase another. Steve

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Scott Venier wrote: > > I've been looking at picking up a cheap, less then current model thinkpad > from TigerDirect. The prices are pretty good, and the Linux support for > ThinkPad hardware is outstanding. Anything that's not a "mobile" P4 will > have pretty good battery life... just find the most hardware that fits in > your price range. Yes, but ThinkPad processors come from the wrong company! :-) Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE3S8wHl0iXDssISsRAi23AJ0Tdr43rTpiHbdyMuBx9P1iKzGVUgCdG52Z HwOPAVksZ8/g3ZUcxOiezKQ= =HfAT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Robert L Krawitz

Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:08:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard Klein" <rich(a)richardklein.org> Lenovo seems like a natural choice because they sell laptops with Linux pre-installed. For those looking at used laptops (Stephen says he's buying new), I installed Ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 8200 recently. It was painless, and everything seems to work, including the PCMCIA 802.11G card. I've had a pair of Dells (Inspiron 8000 and what I guess is basically a C840, equivalent to the Inspiron 8200). Both work very nicely under Linux without any major problems. I like the 1600x1200 screen. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gutenprint -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

Aug. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Jared Greenwald

I've had some problems in the past with wifi hardware. I had one laptop (Compaq Evo N600c) where the wifi driver worked, but is not maintained and only available from svn (orinoco_usb). My newest laptop that I got last week (Dell D620) is too new for the driver to have been well tested (ipw3945) and I'm only getting about 20K/sec throughput (vs my normal 180K/sec). Its a good laptop other than this one issue - and since the driver is maintained by Intel directly I imagine that it won't be too long before this is fixed. Needless to say, one thing I would recommend is finding a laptop with wireless hardware that has a driver that's well tested and well supported. You might be better off just buying from a place that pre-installs Linux. http://www.pcsforeveryone.com has a Thinkmate Z33A that they will install Fedora Core 5 or Suse 10 on for no extra charge. Also http://linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html has some custom built Linux notebooks and offer a variety of distro choices. -Jared On 8/11/06, Stephen C. Daukas <scd(a)daukas.com> wrote: > I forgot to bring this up at the cookout last night... > > I have decided to purchase a new laptop (a first for me - always used > older equipment) and was wondering if anyone had recommendations for a > model that plays well with Linux. I'm not interested in a laptop with > the latest whiz-bang features, just the basics of wireless networking, > ability to play/burn CDs/DVDs, enough horsepower & disk to run > forecasting models, GIS, database, etc., and a battery that will last > for several hours. (My guess is any laptop these days would be > sufficient.) I want to avoid having to add drivers or other support for > some whiz-bang hardware when something "vanilla" would work just as well > for me, and I would prefer a distro that supports the various standard > laptop features (e.g., power management) and typical peripherals like > DVDs/movies, Burning CDs, etc., "out of the box". Again, this is > probably a non-issue, but there could be a laptop using hardware known > to be problematic (remember "winmodems"?)... > > I use several apps that only run on windows (probably forever), so > another first for me will be dual-boot. I have done this before on > others' systems, but I mention this just in case there is a awareness of > issues with certain laptop models. > > Anyway, thanks in advance for your help! > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Richard Klein

<quote who="Stephen C. Daukas"> > I forgot to bring this up at the cookout last night... > > I have decided to purchase a new laptop (a first for me - always used > older equipment) and was wondering if anyone had recommendations for a > model that plays well with Linux. I'm not interested in a laptop with > the latest whiz-bang features, just the basics of wireless networking, > ability to play/burn CDs/DVDs, enough horsepower & disk to run > forecasting models, GIS, database, etc., and a battery that will last > for several hours. (My guess is any laptop these days would be > sufficient.) I want to avoid having to add drivers or other support for > some whiz-bang hardware when something "vanilla" would work just as well > for me, and I would prefer a distro that supports the various standard > laptop features (e.g., power management) and typical peripherals like > DVDs/movies, Burning CDs, etc., "out of the box". Again, this is > probably a non-issue, but there could be a laptop using hardware known > to be problematic (remember "winmodems"?)... > > I use several apps that only run on windows (probably forever), so > another first for me will be dual-boot. I have done this before on > others' systems, but I mention this just in case there is a awareness of > issues with certain laptop models. Lenovo seems like a natural choice because they sell laptops with Linux pre-installed. For those looking at used laptops (Stephen says he's buying new), I installed Ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 8200 recently. It was painless, and everything seems to work, including the PCMCIA 802.11G card. -- Rich

Aug. 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Scott Venier

Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > I forgot to bring this up at the cookout last night... > > > I have decided to purchase a new laptop (a first for me - always used > older equipment) and was wondering if anyone had recommendations for a > model that plays well with Linux. I'm not interested in a laptop with the > latest whiz-bang features, just the basics of wireless networking, ability > to play/burn CDs/DVDs, enough horsepower & disk to run forecasting models, > GIS, database, etc., and a battery that will last > for several hours. (My guess is any laptop these days would be > sufficient.) I want to avoid having to add drivers or other support for > some whiz-bang hardware when something "vanilla" would work just as well > for me, and I would prefer a distro that supports the various standard > laptop features (e.g., power management) and typical peripherals like > DVDs/movies, Burning CDs, etc., "out of the box". Again, this is > probably a non-issue, but there could be a laptop using hardware known to > be problematic (remember "winmodems"?)... > I've been looking at picking up a cheap, less then current model thinkpad from TigerDirect. The prices are pretty good, and the Linux support for ThinkPad hardware is outstanding. Anything that's not a "mobile" P4 will have pretty good battery life... just find the most hardware that fits in your price range. Scott

Aug. 11, 2006

Laptop recommendations anyone?

by Stephen C. Daukas

I forgot to bring this up at the cookout last night... I have decided to purchase a new laptop (a first for me - always used older equipment) and was wondering if anyone had recommendations for a model that plays well with Linux. I'm not interested in a laptop with the latest whiz-bang features, just the basics of wireless networking, ability to play/burn CDs/DVDs, enough horsepower & disk to run forecasting models, GIS, database, etc., and a battery that will last for several hours. (My guess is any laptop these days would be sufficient.) I want to avoid having to add drivers or other support for some whiz-bang hardware when something "vanilla" would work just as well for me, and I would prefer a distro that supports the various standard laptop features (e.g., power management) and typical peripherals like DVDs/movies, Burning CDs, etc., "out of the box". Again, this is probably a non-issue, but there could be a laptop using hardware known to be problematic (remember "winmodems"?)... I use several apps that only run on windows (probably forever), so another first for me will be dual-boot. I have done this before on others' systems, but I mention this just in case there is a awareness of issues with certain laptop models. Anyway, thanks in advance for your help! Steve

Aug. 11, 2006

Cookout...

by Stephen C. Daukas

Great fun! Many thanks to our hosts, Jamie and especially Karen, for all the great food! Looking forward to the pictures! ;-) Steve

Aug. 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Weird fs problem...

by John Stoffel

Tim> I suppose this poses the next question to WLUG. What do people Tim> recommend as tuning parameters and/or fs types for creating Tim> filesystems that have the potential to store massive ammounts of Tim> relatively small files? Just tune the filesystem so that it's got lots and lots of inodes: mke2fs -T news -o dir_index,sparse_super -j /dev/... Tim> Would I have been better suited to have this thing formatted with Tim> ReiserFS? Not in my book. Reiserfs3 was stuffed into the kernel and then pretty much abandonded for the cool/gee-whiz/fast/extsensible reiserfs4 that is now being pushed at the kernel. I don't trust either of them with my data at this point. I like and trust and understand ext3. I'd probably go with JFS (IBMs thing) first, but even then I'm leary... John

Aug. 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Weird fs problem...

by Theo Van Dinter

On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 02:11:15PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > What do people recommend as tuning parameters and/or fs types for creating > filesystems that have the potential to store massive ammounts of relatively > small files? > > Would I have been better suited to have this thing formatted with ReiserFS? I prefer XFS in general, which in this case has no set inode number limitation. I've been burned numerous times by ReiserFS in the past, whereas I haven't had any major XFS issues that I can recall. fwiw. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Veni, Vidi, Vice" - I came, I saw, I partied.

Aug. 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Weird fs problem...

by Tim Keller

I suppose this poses the next question to WLUG. What do people recommend as tuning parameters and/or fs types for creating filesystems that have the potential to store massive ammounts of relatively small files? Would I have been better suited to have this thing formatted with ReiserFS? Thanks, Tim. On 8/10/06, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Ding! Theo wins. > > df -i reveals that the filesystem is out of inodes. Seriously this is the > first time I've ever had this problem. > > Well... time to do some cleaning! > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On 8/10/06, Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:48:20AM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > a 'df -h' yeilds the following: > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/sda1 233G 115G 107G 52% /mnt/ext-usb > > > > The weird problem that I'm seeing is that I can't write data to it > anymore. > > > > [root@fandango ext-usb]# touch test > > touch: cannot touch `test': No space left on device > > The first thing I'd think of is are you out of inodes? df -i > > -- > Randomly Generated Tagline: > "You don't want me to pick out your brain surgeon. I don't want your brain > surgeon picking out my router :)" - LuftHans(a)asu.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > -- > I am leary of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > -- I am leary of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Aug. 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Weird fs problem...

by Tim Keller

Ding! Theo wins. df -i reveals that the filesystem is out of inodes. Seriously this is the first time I've ever had this problem. Well... time to do some cleaning! Thanks, Tim. On 8/10/06, Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:48:20AM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > a 'df -h' yeilds the following: > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/sda1 233G 115G 107G 52% /mnt/ext-usb > > > > The weird problem that I'm seeing is that I can't write data to it > anymore. > > > > [root@fandango ext-usb]# touch test > > touch: cannot touch `test': No space left on device > > The first thing I'd think of is are you out of inodes? df -i > > -- > Randomly Generated Tagline: > "You don't want me to pick out your brain surgeon. I don't want your brain > surgeon picking out my router :)" - LuftHans(a)asu.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- I am leary of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Aug. 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Weird fs problem...

by Theo Van Dinter

On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:48:20AM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > a 'df -h' yeilds the following: > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda1 233G 115G 107G 52% /mnt/ext-usb > > The weird problem that I'm seeing is that I can't write data to it anymore. > > [root@fandango ext-usb]# touch test > touch: cannot touch `test': No space left on device The first thing I'd think of is are you out of inodes? df -i -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "You don't want me to pick out your brain surgeon. I don't want your brain surgeon picking out my router :)" - LuftHans(a)asu.edu

Aug. 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Weird fs problem...

by John Stoffel

Tim> I've got a really weird filesystem problem... Tim> I've got a 250GB external USB disk device. It's formatted at ext3. Tim> a 'df -h' yeilds the following: Tim> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on Tim> /dev/sda1 233G 115G 107G 52% /mnt/ext-usb Tim> The weird problem that I'm seeing is that I can't write data to Tim> it anymore. Tim> i.e. Tim> [root@fandango ext-usb]# pwd Tim> /mnt/ext-usb Tim> [root@fandango ext-usb]# touch test Tim> touch: cannot touch `test': No space left on device Tim> [root@fandango ext-usb]# What does 'df -i' yield? It sounds like you're out of inodes on there. Do you have tons and tons of small files on there? John

Aug. 10, 2006

Weird fs problem...

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, I've got a really weird filesystem problem... I've got a 250GB external USB disk device. It's formatted at ext3. a 'df -h' yeilds the following: Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda1 233G 115G 107G 52% /mnt/ext-usb The weird problem that I'm seeing is that I can't write data to it anymore. i.e. [root@fandango ext-usb]# pwd /mnt/ext-usb [root@fandango ext-usb]# touch test touch: cannot touch `test': No space left on device [root@fandango ext-usb]# And yes, before you ask, I've unmounted the volume and I'm currently running a fsck on it. Though it's 250GB so... it'll be a while... Tim. -- I am leary of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Aug. 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Website down? Plus "who is Jamie?"

by Chuck Anderson

On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 01:55:36AM -0400, Jamie Guinan wrote: > I can't connect to wlug.org:80, has it been down long? Yeah, the webserver was just upgraded. It should be up now.

Aug. 9, 2006

Another system available...

by Stephen C. Daukas

Hi guys! I have another of Doug's systems available for anyone who would like it: Gateway 2000 P5-90 MHz Tower, 32 Meg Ram w/ *matching* Keyboard, Mouse, and Monitor (GW2K Vivitron) 2 HDDs: WD AC 31000H WD AC 36400L 2 Ethernet cards (was being used as a router for the home network) If interested, let me know and I'll bring it to the cookout tomorrow evening! Steve

Aug. 9, 2006

kickstart pxelinux foo needed

by John Stoffel

Guys, My google-foo is down today and I've got a quick question that maybe people can help me on. I've got some Rackable boxes I need to kickstart with RedHat 7.3, ideally via PXELINUX. All this actually works right now, but I need to force the system to load the e1000 module and bind it to eth0, instead of the eepro100 module which currently gets in there first. I guess I could just nuke the module from the initrd.img file, but I figured there's got to be a way I can specify this inside the pxelinux config file. I've got the following: default rh73 label rh73 kernel vmlinuz-7.3 append ks=nfs:10.10.1.1:/export/RH7.3/ks.cfg initrd=/RH7.3/initrd.img root=/dev/hda2 ro vga=ask I know I just need to put something into the 'append ...' line, but dammned if I can figure it out. Thanks, John

Aug. 9, 2006

Website down? Plus "who is Jamie?"

by Jamie Guinan

Hi all, I can't connect to wlug.org:80, has it been down long? Also, while I can remember lots of facts about people at the WLUG meetings, I still have trouble associating names. So in case anyone else has the same problem, and you're wondering who's hosting the BBQ, here's a pic of me (Jamie) sharing some side dishes with my daughter at Kaya resaturant in Boston, http://www.bluebutton.com/misc/jamie-japanese-food.jpg I'll have 1 or 2 cameras to take pictures at the BBQ. -Jamie

Aug. 9, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Free Items: Computers, Monitors, mice, keyboards, books and more !

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 gbonte(a)WPI.EDU wrote: >>Mac Powerbook (Laptop?) 1400Cs/133 > > > I am fairly interested in this. If nobody minds, I can swing by and pick > it up at the Barbecue. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > Sorry, somebody beat you to it. Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE2QIDHl0iXDssISsRApn4AJsGTBkFMpYZqwTkrzqQnO8MNYlqxQCdFZkC 1e3yX0Ig4+tEIfD1tFyZc74= =p1tY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 8, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Free Items: Computers, Monitors, mice, keyboards, books and more !

by gbonte＠WPI.EDU

> Mac Powerbook (Laptop?) 1400Cs/133 I am fairly interested in this. If nobody minds, I can swing by and pick it up at the Barbecue.

Aug. 8, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Free Items: Computers, Monitors, mice, keyboards, books and more !

by Stephen C. Daukas

Hi all! Andy Stewart wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi gang, > > I was helping Steve Daukas and Barb Waud clean out some of Doug's old [snip] > Mac Powerbook (Laptop?) 1400Cs/133 > Yes - this is a laptop. Also, I will continue to sort through more hardware, software, and books/texts/journals, and be able to add to Andy's list over the coming weeks. What I really wanted to say is "Thank You" to Andy for helping with this. This has been a "fits and starts" type of project where it can be very helpful to have a 3rd-party (Andy) involved. As Andy can attest, this isn't just one or two systems, its more like several rooms of stuff. (As an aside, Doug and I had ~15 systems networked at one time several years back with a bunch of those, and many others, having been donated to a refugee assistance program in Shrewsbury...) Andy, you were very nice to take the items you did. I can tell Barbara is feeling good about having made some progress and it will be that much easier to inventory and give away the remaining items. Thanks! Steve

Aug. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Free Items: Computers, Monitors, mice, keyboards, books and more !

by Bill Smith

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:37:43 -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > > >Hi gang, > >I was helping Steve Daukas and Barb Waud clean out some of Doug's old >computers today. You may recall that Doug was a WLUG member for many >years (sadly, he passed away in March 2006). I remember. That is unfortunate. :( > Barb has asked me to find >a home for these items. Everything works, but some of it is rather >"vintage" (sorry, preused, preowned!). I prefer "broken in". :) (Much of my own hardware is like Doug's.) > Don't worry - if you don't get >something now, there's more where this stuff came from(!). Doug was >very avid when it came to his computer hobby. This is an indication that he cared about his hobby. ;) >I will bring these items to the WLUG BBQ (coming up this Thursday) and >to the next regular WLUG meeting (Thurs Sept 7th). If you want >something, send me an email and I'll be happy to hold it for you. >Please pick it up at one of these two meetings, or make other >arrangements with me. First come, first served. > >Here is the email address in case you wish to send a thank-you note to >Barb Waud: barbara.waud(a)umassmed.edu I shall. >3 pairs of memory dimms (untested) >looks like 144 pin dimms >not sure of the sizes >2 pairs are HP 1818-6126 (looks like 16 MB ECC each) >1 pair has 9 chips (each) with > "SEC Korea KM44C16104AK-6" > >=== end === According to http://www.xs4all.nl/~ganswijk/chipdir/f/dram.htm , that last pair seems to be 16x4 EDO DRAM. >Printers >- -------- > >HP Deskjet 600C >HP Deskjet 697C >HP Deskjet 870Cse > I'm interested in the HP697C. If it's still available, I'd like to pick it up at the September 7th WLUG meeting. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... Humanity is cripple. * TAG! v3.2 *

Aug. 7, 2006

Free Items: Computers, Monitors, mice, keyboards, books and more !

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi gang, I was helping Steve Daukas and Barb Waud clean out some of Doug's old computers today. You may recall that Doug was a WLUG member for many years (sadly, he passed away in March 2006). Barb has asked me to find a home for these items. Everything works, but some of it is rather "vintage" (sorry, preused, preowned!). Don't worry - if you don't get something now, there's more where this stuff came from(!). Doug was very avid when it came to his computer hobby. I will bring these items to the WLUG BBQ (coming up this Thursday) and to the next regular WLUG meeting (Thurs Sept 7th). If you want something, send me an email and I'll be happy to hold it for you. Please pick it up at one of these two meetings, or make other arrangements with me. First come, first served. Here is the email address in case you wish to send a thank-you note to Barb Waud: barbara.waud(a)umassmed.edu OK, here is the (long!) list of items which are available. Ideally, someone will want a system box with a matching monitor, keyboard, and mouse combo. However, I'll breakup the set if it helps more items find homes. === start === Monitors - -------- Monitor #1 Manufactured 2/1994 TECO TE1450 (color) Super VGA COLOR monitor H: 30-50 kHZ V: 50-100 Hz 13" diagonal viewable (probably 14") Appears to work fine Monitor #2 Manufactured 12/1996 AcerView 54e (color) Model #7154e 14" diagonal viewable (probably 15") Works at 1024x768x60HZ Monitor #3 Manufactured 5/2000 Viewsonic E655 (color) Model #VCDTS21526-4M 14" diagonal viewable (probalby 15") Works at 1024x768@60Hz Monitor #4 Manufactured 2/1999 Dell Trinitron Model #D1025TM (color) H: 30-85 kHz V: 50-120 Hz 16" diagonal viewable (probably 17") Works at 1024x768@60Hz CPUs - ---- System #1 Dell XPS Pro200n Pentium Pro 200 MHz (says /proc/cpuinfo - 400 BogoMips) 64 MB memory PS2 KB and Mouse ATAPI 12X CDROM 3.5" Floppy Western Digital WDC WD400BB-00AUA1 (wiped clean but functional, 40 GB) 1 parallel, 2 serial ports 1 10/100 NIC 1 sound w/gameport Boots my ancient LNX-BBC business card CD (live Linux) Runs X w/blackbox 640x480x16 (maybe more??) System #2 AOpen Pentium 200 MHz Processor 32 MB memory HD ST32132A (wiped clean but functional, 2GB) ATAPI 8X CDROM (CDU511-F) NIC Phoenix S3 video TRIO64V 3/5" Floppy AT KB, serial mouse Boots my ancient LNX-BBC business card CD (live Linux) Runs X w/blackbox 640x480x16 System #3 No name system Pentium 200 MHz CPU 32 MB memory HD ST33210A (wiped clean but functional, 3GB) AT KB, serial mouse Phoenix S3 video TRIO64V NIC ATAPI 8X CDROM 3.5" floppy Runs X w/blackbox 640x480x16 System #4 Pot luck - probably similar to the above Case wires disconnected from MB It may work, it may not Knowing Doug, it works... I can investigate further if you are interested - please ask! Keyboards - --------- comes with the systems (I think 3 are PS/2 (with a couple of AT adapters), and one is strictly AT). Mice - ---- 3 out of 4 come with mice (2 serial mice, one PS/2) Books - ----- LaTeX User's Guide and Reference Manual Leslie Lamport ISBN 0-201-15790-X Addison-Wesley Publishing Company 4 copies are available The LaTeX Graphics Companion Michel Goossens, Sebastian Rahtz, Frank Mittelback ISBN 0-201-85469-4 Addison-Wesley Publishing Company The LaTeX Companion Goossens, Mittelback, and Samarin ISBN 0-201-54199-8 Addison Wesley Publishing Company LaTeX 2e Thomas Demmig ISBN 3-8272-6517-7 Damn, this book is in German, not English!! LaTeX User's Guide and Reference Manual updated for LaTex 2e Leslie Lamport (2nd edition) ISBN 0-201-52983-1 Guide to LaTex Helmut Kopka and Patrick W. Daly (4th edition) ISBN 0-321-17385-6 Addison Wesley Publishing Company The LaTeX Web Companion Michel Goossens and Sebastian Rahtz ISBN 0-201-43311-7 Addison Wesley Publishing Company Do you think Doug was into LaTeX much ?!? DNS and Bind Paul Albitz and Cricket Liu (3rd Edition) ISBN 1-56592-512-2 O'Reilly and Associates RedHat Fedora Linux 3 Bible Christopher Negus ISBN 0-7645-7872-3 Wiley Publishing Linux(1): Users Reference Manual (all the man pages in one book!) edited by John Purcell Just Computers! Publishing Printed in Canada - no ISBN number Running Linux Matt Welsh and Lar Kaufman (1st edition) O'Reilly and Associates ISBN 1-56592-100-3 Great for the Linux novice! Linux System Security Scott Mann and Ellen L. Mitchell Prentice Hall Publishing ISBN 0-13-015807-0 Magazines - --------- Linux Journal June 2006 August 2006 Sept 2006 Misc - ---- Belkin 802.11b wireless router Model #F5D6231-4 4 ports + WAN port plus wireless I tried it - it works fine as far as I can tell Includes AC/DC adapter and one network cable 3 pairs of memory dimms (untested) looks like 144 pin dimms not sure of the sizes 2 pairs are HP 1818-6126 (looks like 16 MB ECC each) 1 pair has 9 chips (each) with "SEC Korea KM44C16104AK-6" === end === The following items are not in my possession (they're at Barb's house) but also need to find new homes. Please let me know if you are interested, and I'll get these to you. All items are in "as-is" condition. Printers - -------- HP Deskjet 600C HP Deskjet 697C HP Deskjet 870Cse Apple Hardware - -------------- Printer: Color Style Writer 4100 Printer: System Writer II (2 available) CPU: Power Mac 5400 / 200 Mac Powerbook (Laptop?) 1400Cs/133 - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE1plnHl0iXDssISsRAtQoAJ0WNSIH4kOb2QS9CQUOJtKqvfTHjwCfd1wD bnKwxu4ANL4oBHE/Ty0iiD4= =Zne/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] update; thanks

by Bill Smith

On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:54:32 -0700 (PDT), Andrew Perry wrote: > Lo and behold, last night I hooked up a patch cable >to my wife's router, booted up Damn Small Linux on an >old PC, and it just plain worked ! Having tried off >and on for many years to make linux _useful_ to me >(not just a novelty), I was really excited. Awesome! :) > Unfortunately, a lot of work lies ahead of me >before I can really convert to linux: for example, I >tried to listen to my favorite radio station 2gb.com, >and successfully downloaded real player for linux, but >got stuck installing it... I'll try to figure it out >eventually, but didn't have time last night. You may need to have root privileges to install Real Player. If you have sudo configured, you can probably use a command like: chmod +x realplayer10.bin sudo ./realplayer10.bin If you do not have sudo configured, you will need the root password. If you installed this system, then you should know it. In this case, something like this should do the trick: su - cd /path/to/RealPlayer-file-you-downloaded chmod +x realplayer10.bin ./realplayer10.bin In both cases, you'll want to use the actual filename for the RealPlayer installation binary. The "chmod" command makes the file executable. Hope this helps. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com Microsoft Windows doesn't HAVE security holes... It IS a security hole. * TAG! v3.2 *

Aug. 4, 2006

update; thanks

by Andrew Perry

Hi everyone, About a year ago I asked for help from this group on getting linux to work with the internet, preferably though my home wi-fi network, which works OK with Windows. Until then, I had played with linux for a long time but had never been able to make it a part of my life due to the deal-breaker factor of no internet. Someone suggested using the latest distros, such as Fedora Core (3 at the time), which would be most likely to have the appropriate drivers. (Incidentally, frozentech.com sells linux cd's/dvd's at $1/$2 with max $0.49 shipping.) I tried many distros, and two or three different USB wirless adapters, but no luck. Another person suggested trying a wired network first, as wired networks were easier to make work. Until now, I haadn't tried that suggestion, since I thought that it would still involve a lot of time in configuration and trial and error. Lo and behold, last night I hooked up a patch cable to my wife's router, booted up Damn Small Linux on an old PC, and it just plain worked ! Having tried off and on for many years to make linux _useful_ to me (not just a novelty), I was really excited. Unfortunately, a lot of work lies ahead of me before I can really convert to linux: for example, I tried to listen to my favorite radio station 2gb.com, and successfully downloaded real player for linux, but got stuck installing it... I'll try to figure it out eventually, but didn't have time last night. Thanks, everyone. - Andrew -Dr. Andrew B. Perry Assistant Prof. of Mathematics, Springfield College 263 Alden St., Springfield MA 01109 Work Phone (413)748-3193

Aug. 3, 2006

REMINDER: WLUG BBQ Thurs Aug 10 6PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 What: WLUG Summer BBQ at Jamie's House in Shrewsbury When: Thursday August 10, 6pm-~9pm. Hot dogs, burgers, and maybe a few other items (chicken+veggie kebobs anyone?) will be on the grill, and various non-alcoholic beverages will be available. My grill is a bit old and battered, so if you're bothered by a little rust, feel free to BYO food. We're anticipating around 15 people based on past WLUG events, and I'll have chairs for about that many people. If the weather is horrible, I might bring things inside, and we can do some fun Linux demo things like install gentoo on a spare box, broadcast a movie on VLC, etc. WIFI will be available if you want to bring a laptop. Directions: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=21+Lexington+Road+01545 Text directions: http://bluebutton.com/misc/dirxns2.html I'll leave 2 open spots in the driveway, otherwise you can park along the curb. Walk around the right (north) side of the house to get to the back yard. See you there! - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE0STGHl0iXDssISsRApd4AJ0VPhBTBs5sP/3ue0pjFJ2yB5Gv/gCfbhtB zt3EYKFu6CWiEGdRj5UX3GE= =7Sci -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 2, 2006

[Fwd: Special Discount for SD Best Practices 2006 Conference & Expo]

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Special Discount for SD Best Practices 2006 Conference & Expo Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:49:05 -0700 From: BWong(a)cmp.com To: andystewart(a)comcast.net Hello Andy, I would like to invite all WLUG members to attend the Software Development Best Practices 2006 Conference & Expo coming to the Hynes Convention Center in Boston, MA, September 11 - 14. With more than 175 educational sessions, SD Best Practices offers a multitude of exciting learning and networking opportunities. This year’s conference features classes, tutorials, case studies, roundtables, panels and Birds-of-a-Feathers in the following tracks: - - Build & Deploy - - C++ - - Design & Architecture - - People, Projects & Teams - - Process & Methods - - Requirements & Analysis - - Testing & Quality We encourage your members to take advantage of our generous Early Bird conference discounts. Register by August 4th with the code 6EGRAS81 to qualify for Early Bird pricing. After August 4th, your members will still save $300 off of the VIP pass by using that discount code. WLUG members also receive free admission to the SD Best Practices Expo - a $50 value! Your FREE Expo Pass grants you access to: - - All technical training sessions from IBM, Progress Software, Electric Cloud and others - - Expo Floor featuring the latest tools, technologies and solutions - - Visionary Keynote presentations - - Expo Floor Opening Party with free food and drinks Registration is fast & easy! Sign up for a Conference Pass or your free Expo Pass on-line at http://www.sdexpo.com or by phone at (800) 441-8826 and be sure to use the your special discount code: 6EGRAS81. I'd greatly appreciate it if you would help us get the word out to all your members and colleagues. Let me know if you'd like me to send you copies of our conference catalog to distribute at your next meeting. Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards and thanks, Bella Wong Marketing Coordinator Dr. Dobb's SD Events CMP Technology tel: 415.947.6358 | fax: 415.947.6070 | bwong(a)cmp.com http://www.sdexpo.com | http://www.ddj.com - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFExWxEHl0iXDssISsRAtLEAJsHiUtC1BDjJ25UpmBCOj0tp1pD8ACfRW/x 538/JWMWu6hyLd0HipX6ovQ= =ytos -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

July 25, 2006

Test - please ignore

by David Glaser

Test - please ignore

July 22, 2006

Re: [Wlug] WLUG website on PDA web browser

by Frank Sweetser

On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 10:11:07PM -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: > > HI gang, > > I recently got a Palm T|X and was using the web browser. It works fine > for websites that are written in a certain way (mobile.palm.com, for > example). Our WLUG website comes up with the WLUG graphical header but > no useful text info. > > I'm wondering if it would be hard to format (at least the home page of) > the website to display cleanly on a PDA (320x480 or 320x320) as well as > a normal computer screen. Does anybody have the expertise and time to > give this a try? If its a huge effort, it is probably not worth it, but > I don't have the expertise to size up the effort. If it's like the one or two other phone based browsers I've played with, it probably doesn't handle frames in a useful way. The solution would be to re-implement the frames based layout using CSS instead. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

July 19, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Which C++ Development Environment to use

by Karl Hiramoto

David Glaser wrote: > I'm new to the Linux world and I'm looking for free C++ devleopment > environments that run on Windoze and Linux > > Right now I'm using Eclipse with the CDT toolset - what other IDEs > should I look at? > > Thanks, > > I use Source-Navigator http://sourcenav.sourceforge.net/ Kdeveop is nice on linux, but to use on windows i think you need cygwin. I have not tried it on windows tho. http://www.kdevelop.org/ -- --- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> http://karl.hiramoto.org/

July 17, 2006

Which C++ Development Environment to use

by David Glaser

I'm new to the Linux world and I'm looking for free C++ devleopment environments that run on Windoze and Linux Right now I'm using Eclipse with the CDT toolset - what other IDEs should I look at? Thanks, David Glaser

July 17, 2006

WLUG website on PDA web browser

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, I recently got a Palm T|X and was using the web browser. It works fine for websites that are written in a certain way (mobile.palm.com, for example). Our WLUG website comes up with the WLUG graphical header but no useful text info. I'm wondering if it would be hard to format (at least the home page of) the website to display cleanly on a PDA (320x480 or 320x320) as well as a normal computer screen. Does anybody have the expertise and time to give this a try? If its a huge effort, it is probably not worth it, but I don't have the expertise to size up the effort. Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEuaA7Hl0iXDssISsRAo76AJ9BFCwiwIzeWZVEcYkRrStmOdwvEgCdG1g9 XmQiiZX/updu9aJsR/Y+EGo= =Slhi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

July 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel driver vs module

by John Stoffel

Mike> well, now can someone explain why putting a bin file in Mike> /lib/firmware i now get the following after a insmod qla2xxx: Umm... because the card can now initialize itself with the firmware image and do the initial logins to the SAN? I dunno, I've never used them under Linux. Yet. :] Mike> QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Found an ISP2312, irq 9, iobase 0xf8aa6000 Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configuring PCI space... Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configure NVRAM parameters... Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Verifying loaded RISC code... Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Waiting for LIP to complete... Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: LOOP UP detected (2 Gbps). Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Topology - (F_Port), Host Loop address 0xffff Mike> scsi6 : qla2xxx Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Mike> QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver: 8.01.04-k Mike> QLogic QLA2340 - 133MHz PCI-X to 2Gb FC, Single Channel Mike> ISP2312: PCI (33 MHz) @ 0000:00:01.0 hdma-, host#=6, fw=3.03.20 IPX So that's good. Mike> My redhat servers don't even have a /lib/firmware directory...is Mike> this a debian thing? It's a Linux 2.6 thing Mike> Seems by simply putting a qla2300_fw.bin file in /lib/firmware Mike> fixed my problem. Good. Mike> I have yet to get actual SAN disks, but at least the card came Mike> up this time. Yeah! I assume that there are some tools under Linux to actually probe the fabric and see what's out there. It sounds like you're most of the way there now, unless of course you run into SAN zoning issues. Mike> Also, what is a KCONFIG entry? It's part of the Linux kernel source code tree. When you extract the kernel source and do: make xconfig it prompts you with entries from the KCONFIG files for each driver/kernel feature that you need to configure. I just cut'n'pasted the info from my local copy of the kernel source before. Good luck, John

July 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel driver vs module

by Lee Keyser-Allen

The card that you are using requires that the firmware be loaded every time. Firmware, as you may know, is distinct from the driver that Linux uses to talk to the card ... it is the code that the card runs natively to control its operations and allow the card to communicate properly with (and pass data to) the PC. There are a number of reasons why they would load the firmware each time. I don't know this card or driver at all, so I won't bore you with conjecture, but the end result is that the driver needs to know where to find the firmware so that it can load it in, and get the card up and running. My guess, as to your question about redhat, is that the firmware is simply stored in a different location, or is linked into the driver directly. Again, having no intimate knowledge, I can only suppose. So, as you've properly ascertained, the driver can now get the card up and talking, and all you need now are some drives to have some real fun :). Hope that this helps, and good luck. Lee On 7/11/06, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > well, now can someone explain why putting a bin file in /lib/firmware i now get the following > after a insmod qla2xxx: > > QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Found an ISP2312, irq 9, iobase 0xf8aa6000 > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configuring PCI space... > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configure NVRAM parameters... > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Verifying loaded RISC code... > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Waiting for LIP to complete... > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: LOOP UP detected (2 Gbps). > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Topology - (F_Port), Host Loop address 0xffff > scsi6 : qla2xxx > qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: > QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver: 8.01.04-k > QLogic QLA2340 - 133MHz PCI-X to 2Gb FC, Single Channel > ISP2312: PCI (33 MHz) @ 0000:00:01.0 hdma-, host#=6, fw=3.03.20 IPX > > > > My redhat servers don't even have a /lib/firmware directory...is this a debian thing? > > Seems by simply putting a qla2300_fw.bin file in /lib/firmware fixed my problem. > > I have yet to get actual SAN disks, but at least the card came up this time. > > Also, what is a KCONFIG entry? > > --- John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > > > > Mike> good feedback...thanks > > Mike> the entries in dmesg show > > > > Mike> QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver > > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Found an ISP2312, irq 9, iobase 0xf8aa6000 > > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configuring PCI space... > > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configure NVRAM parameters... > > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Verifying loaded RISC code... > > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Firmware image unavailable. > > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Failed to initialize adapter > > > > This is good, but what it's really telling me is that you don't have > > the driver properly installed, with the firmware that needs to be > > downloaded to the card setup properly. > > > > Do you have any docs on the card driver install? Check that > > /lib/firmware/.. has the right stuff in there. Here's some docs from > > the KCONFIG entry, since the qla2xxx driver is part of the core linux > > kernel now (2.6.18-rc1-mm1): > > > > By default, firmware for the ISP parts will be loaded > > via the Firmware Loader interface. > > > > ISP Firmware Filename > > ---------- ----------------- > > 21xx ql2100_fw.bin > > 22xx ql2200_fw.bin > > 2300, 2312, 6312 ql2300_fw.bin > > 2322, 6322 ql2322_fw.bin > > 24xx ql2400_fw.bin > > > > Upon request, the driver caches the firmware image until > > the driver is unloaded. > > > > Firmware images can be retrieved from: > > > > ftp://ftp.qlogic.com/outgoing/linux/firmware/ > > > > > > Mike> This is a brand new, out of the box HBA and we have had zero > > Mike> failure rates to date on these (via Redhat). > > > > Mike> The only "drivers" i can find via QLogic are rpm's...that makes > > Mike> them binary drivers (?) since I cannot compile them myself, > > Mike> right? > > > > Whether they're RPMs or not doesn't mean much, it's whether or not you > > can get source code without any binary blobs. In this case, since the > > firmware is binary only, it's not a completely open adapter, but at > > least you can grab what you need easily enough. > > > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Lee Keyser-Allen (lkeyser(a)alum.wpi.edu)

July 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel driver vs module

by Mike Leo

well, now can someone explain why putting a bin file in /lib/firmware i now get the following after a insmod qla2xxx: QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Found an ISP2312, irq 9, iobase 0xf8aa6000 qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configuring PCI space... qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configure NVRAM parameters... qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Verifying loaded RISC code... qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Waiting for LIP to complete... qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: LOOP UP detected (2 Gbps). qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Topology - (F_Port), Host Loop address 0xffff scsi6 : qla2xxx qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver: 8.01.04-k QLogic QLA2340 - 133MHz PCI-X to 2Gb FC, Single Channel ISP2312: PCI (33 MHz) @ 0000:00:01.0 hdma-, host#=6, fw=3.03.20 IPX My redhat servers don't even have a /lib/firmware directory...is this a debian thing? Seems by simply putting a qla2300_fw.bin file in /lib/firmware fixed my problem. I have yet to get actual SAN disks, but at least the card came up this time. Also, what is a KCONFIG entry? --- John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Mike> good feedback...thanks > Mike> the entries in dmesg show > > Mike> QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Found an ISP2312, irq 9, iobase 0xf8aa6000 > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configuring PCI space... > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configure NVRAM parameters... > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Verifying loaded RISC code... > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Firmware image unavailable. > Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Failed to initialize adapter > > This is good, but what it's really telling me is that you don't have > the driver properly installed, with the firmware that needs to be > downloaded to the card setup properly. > > Do you have any docs on the card driver install? Check that > /lib/firmware/.. has the right stuff in there. Here's some docs from > the KCONFIG entry, since the qla2xxx driver is part of the core linux > kernel now (2.6.18-rc1-mm1): > > By default, firmware for the ISP parts will be loaded > via the Firmware Loader interface. > > ISP Firmware Filename > ---------- ----------------- > 21xx ql2100_fw.bin > 22xx ql2200_fw.bin > 2300, 2312, 6312 ql2300_fw.bin > 2322, 6322 ql2322_fw.bin > 24xx ql2400_fw.bin > > Upon request, the driver caches the firmware image until > the driver is unloaded. > > Firmware images can be retrieved from: > > ftp://ftp.qlogic.com/outgoing/linux/firmware/ > > > Mike> This is a brand new, out of the box HBA and we have had zero > Mike> failure rates to date on these (via Redhat). > > Mike> The only "drivers" i can find via QLogic are rpm's...that makes > Mike> them binary drivers (?) since I cannot compile them myself, > Mike> right? > > Whether they're RPMs or not doesn't mean much, it's whether or not you > can get source code without any binary blobs. In this case, since the > firmware is binary only, it's not a completely open adapter, but at > least you can grab what you need easily enough. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 11, 2006

Re: [Wlug] CD drawer remains open

by Richard Klein

<quote who="mlong(a)datalong.com"> >> Try booting from a live cd (knoppix, gentoo, ubuntu) and see if it >> behaves the same way. If it does, it's hardware (which is my guess). >> If not, it's software. > > Thanks for the hint. This is a production server so I will try this the > next time it is taken offline for service. Oh! Well, it's probably running hot, then, and sticking out it's tongue to pant and cool off. HTH! NC, -- Rich

July 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel driver vs module

by John Stoffel

Mike> good feedback...thanks Mike> the entries in dmesg show Mike> QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Found an ISP2312, irq 9, iobase 0xf8aa6000 Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configuring PCI space... Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configure NVRAM parameters... Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Verifying loaded RISC code... Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Firmware image unavailable. Mike> qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Failed to initialize adapter This is good, but what it's really telling me is that you don't have the driver properly installed, with the firmware that needs to be downloaded to the card setup properly. Do you have any docs on the card driver install? Check that /lib/firmware/.. has the right stuff in there. Here's some docs from the KCONFIG entry, since the qla2xxx driver is part of the core linux kernel now (2.6.18-rc1-mm1): By default, firmware for the ISP parts will be loaded via the Firmware Loader interface. ISP Firmware Filename ---------- ----------------- 21xx ql2100_fw.bin 22xx ql2200_fw.bin 2300, 2312, 6312 ql2300_fw.bin 2322, 6322 ql2322_fw.bin 24xx ql2400_fw.bin Upon request, the driver caches the firmware image until the driver is unloaded. Firmware images can be retrieved from: ftp://ftp.qlogic.com/outgoing/linux/firmware/ Mike> This is a brand new, out of the box HBA and we have had zero Mike> failure rates to date on these (via Redhat). Mike> The only "drivers" i can find via QLogic are rpm's...that makes Mike> them binary drivers (?) since I cannot compile them myself, Mike> right? Whether they're RPMs or not doesn't mean much, it's whether or not you can get source code without any binary blobs. In this case, since the firmware is binary only, it's not a completely open adapter, but at least you can grab what you need easily enough. John

July 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] CD drawer remains open

by Marc Hughes

While I'm sure it's not the cause... I used to SSH into my wife's machine when she was living in a dorm and eject her cd. Scared the bejeezus out of her. She started to suspect me, so I used the at command to make it eject while I was there one day. -Marc On 7/10/06, mlong(a)datalong.com <mlong(a)datalong.com> wrote: > > Try booting from a live cd (knoppix, gentoo, ubuntu) and see if it > > behaves the same way. If it does, it's hardware (which is my guess). > > If not, it's software. > > Thanks for the hint. This is a production server so I will try this the > next time it is taken offline for service. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel driver vs module

by Mike Leo

good feedback...thanks the entries in dmesg show QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Found an ISP2312, irq 9, iobase 0xf8aa6000 qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configuring PCI space... qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Configure NVRAM parameters... qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Verifying loaded RISC code... qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Firmware image unavailable. qla2xxx 0000:00:01.0: Failed to initialize adapter This is a brand new, out of the box HBA and we have had zero failure rates to date on these (via Redhat). The only "drivers" i can find via QLogic are rpm's...that makes them binary drivers (?) since I cannot compile them myself, right? --- Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> wrote: > ==> Regarding [Wlug] kernel driver vs module; Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> adds: > > mleo963> I am still having a hard time understanding kernel drivers vs > mleo963> module's in practical use: I understand a kernel driver, is a > mleo963> driver that Linus, et al, have coded into the kernel, so if i have > mleo963> a peice of hardware, and I compile a kernel with that device's > mleo963> driver turned on, then my device will work. > > mleo963> If i build that kernel driver as a module, the driver remains > mleo963> outside the kernel, but still availible for use. As a module I > mleo963> can rmmod or insmod when i need to use the device. > > mleo963> My foggy'ness comes from a few things. > > mleo963> 1. if the driver is built into the kernel, will it show up in lsmod? > > No. > > mleo963> 2. if the driver does not show up in lsmod, how do i know if its > mleo963> loaded? > > dmesg > > mleo963> 3. weather it's a built in driver or a module, how do i associate > mleo963> the driver (or module) with a particular device? > > It's done for you, via built-in PCI id mappings. > > mleo963> 4. if the device does not have a driver in the kernel, I cannot > mleo963> build a custom kernel to include it, nor can I build it as a > mleo963> module from the kernel source. So: > > This isn't a question... ;) > > mleo963> 5. if I get the driver from the vendor, it will build a module > mleo963> for me, based on my kernel-source or kernel-headers??? Then what? > mleo963> again, see #3: how do i associate the module with my device? > > Vendor modules come in 2 flavors: binary only, and not binary only. ;) In > the former case, you'll likely have to run the kernel version against which > they built the module. In the latter case, yes, you can build the module > out of tree, and then insmod it. Again, PCI id's on the card are matched > to those supported by the driver. > > mleo963> This is a general linux quandry, but this time i have a debian > mleo963> stable install and have inserted a QLogic HBA. lsmod does show > mleo963> qla2xxx, but it doesn't seem to be functioning as it isn't logging > mleo963> into the fiber switch. > > What does the dmesg output show? > > -Jeff > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 10, 2006