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WLUG july/aug

by Doug Mildram

doug> Chuck is on vacation...hope the website didn't mislead; it said "TBD" for upcoming meetings. ** So I think we're "on break" for July, and still hoping for a new August BBQ volunteer host. Or, I might. From: John Platt <jplatt39(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Wlug] July meeting? Hi! I was on campus this evening but didn't see Chuck or any signs. Did I miss something?

July 12, 2012

July meeting?

by John Platt

Hi! I was on campus this evening but didn't see Chuck or any signs. Did I miss something?

July 12, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by E Johnson

Thanks Chuck. I had seen the Lenovo fixes, but that didn't seem to fit this situation. At least now, in these explanations, I can see why it's often suggested to remap the CapsLock as an extra CTRL key. Others suggest physically rewiring the thing; switching the wires. That isn't possible in this one. This is a $30 plastic keyboard that should have cost 9 bucks max. I'll rewire the nice but sick one, whenever the soldering iron is dropped off here. Thanks again everyone. Liz On 4 July 2012 02:49, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > See here for the gory details. As you can see, there is pretty much > no easy way to turn Fn into a generic key, especially not a Ctrl key. > There may be a hard way that involves loading a custom ACPI DSDT and > creating custom actions for every combination of Fn and every other > key--if there are even enough non-overlapping codes to do it. Also > bare in mind that these are IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad specific docs: > > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work > > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_hotswap_Ultrabay_devices > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 10:29:27PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > > How did you create the custom action?? > > (need the commnds) > > Thanks > > Liz > > > > On 3 July 2012 22:22, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > > > > More specifically, it is handled by the ACPI BIOS in SMM (system > > > management mode). You might be able to hook it via acpid, but > > > probably not in a suitably complete way to emulate Ctrl for all uses. > > > I was able to create a custom action Fn+F9 on my laptop to power down > > > the optical/hard drive bay so I could eject it. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 06:52:21PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > > > > Oh. Well, that explains why I can't get the keymap code, thank you. > > > > > > > > I guess that explains why it's a fix in the BIOS too, if the BIOS > will do > > > > it. > > > > > > > > But I need the keymap code. Need to do CTRL-C and CTRL-V a zillion > > > > times/day, but the distance between CTRL and C and V in this > keyboard is > > > > too short. If CTRL was an inch to the left, life would be normal & > > > > arthriitic effects would be reduced. > > > > > > > > Thank you very much, Mike. > > > > > > > > Liz > > > > > > > > On 3 July 2012 18:32, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > > > > > > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN > key. > > > > > > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least > not > > > using > > > > > > this method. > > > > > > > > > > many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get > a > > > > > chance to > > > > > see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the > keyboard > > > > > itself > > > > > that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down > > > arrow" > > > > > and > > > > > translate it to "page down" in software. > > > > > -mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 4, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by Chuck Anderson

See here for the gory details. As you can see, there is pretty much no easy way to turn Fn into a generic key, especially not a Ctrl key. There may be a hard way that involves loading a custom ACPI DSDT and creating custom actions for every combination of Fn and every other key--if there are even enough non-overlapping codes to do it. Also bare in mind that these are IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad specific docs: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_hotswap_Ultrabay_devices On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 10:29:27PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > How did you create the custom action?? > (need the commnds) > Thanks > Liz > > On 3 July 2012 22:22, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > > More specifically, it is handled by the ACPI BIOS in SMM (system > > management mode). You might be able to hook it via acpid, but > > probably not in a suitably complete way to emulate Ctrl for all uses. > > I was able to create a custom action Fn+F9 on my laptop to power down > > the optical/hard drive bay so I could eject it. > > > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 06:52:21PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > > > Oh. Well, that explains why I can't get the keymap code, thank you. > > > > > > I guess that explains why it's a fix in the BIOS too, if the BIOS will do > > > it. > > > > > > But I need the keymap code. Need to do CTRL-C and CTRL-V a zillion > > > times/day, but the distance between CTRL and C and V in this keyboard is > > > too short. If CTRL was an inch to the left, life would be normal & > > > arthriitic effects would be reduced. > > > > > > Thank you very much, Mike. > > > > > > Liz > > > > > > On 3 July 2012 18:32, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > > > > > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. > > > > > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not > > using > > > > > this method. > > > > > > > > many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get a > > > > chance to > > > > see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the keyboard > > > > itself > > > > that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down > > arrow" > > > > and > > > > translate it to "page down" in software. > > > > -mike

July 4, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by E Johnson

How did you create the custom action?? (need the commnds) Thanks Liz On 3 July 2012 22:22, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > More specifically, it is handled by the ACPI BIOS in SMM (system > management mode). You might be able to hook it via acpid, but > probably not in a suitably complete way to emulate Ctrl for all uses. > I was able to create a custom action Fn+F9 on my laptop to power down > the optical/hard drive bay so I could eject it. > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 06:52:21PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > > Oh. Well, that explains why I can't get the keymap code, thank you. > > > > I guess that explains why it's a fix in the BIOS too, if the BIOS will do > > it. > > > > But I need the keymap code. Need to do CTRL-C and CTRL-V a zillion > > times/day, but the distance between CTRL and C and V in this keyboard is > > too short. If CTRL was an inch to the left, life would be normal & > > arthriitic effects would be reduced. > > > > Thank you very much, Mike. > > > > Liz > > > > On 3 July 2012 18:32, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > > > > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. > > > > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not > using > > > > this method. > > > > > > many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get a > > > chance to > > > see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the keyboard > > > itself > > > that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down > arrow" > > > and > > > translate it to "page down" in software. > > > -mike > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > - Chuck (0 Days until IPv4 depletion: http://ipv4depletion.com/) > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 4, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by Chuck Anderson

More specifically, it is handled by the ACPI BIOS in SMM (system management mode). You might be able to hook it via acpid, but probably not in a suitably complete way to emulate Ctrl for all uses. I was able to create a custom action Fn+F9 on my laptop to power down the optical/hard drive bay so I could eject it. On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 06:52:21PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > Oh. Well, that explains why I can't get the keymap code, thank you. > > I guess that explains why it's a fix in the BIOS too, if the BIOS will do > it. > > But I need the keymap code. Need to do CTRL-C and CTRL-V a zillion > times/day, but the distance between CTRL and C and V in this keyboard is > too short. If CTRL was an inch to the left, life would be normal & > arthriitic effects would be reduced. > > Thank you very much, Mike. > > Liz > > On 3 July 2012 18:32, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > > > On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > > > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. > > > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not using > > > this method. > > > > many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get a > > chance to > > see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the keyboard > > itself > > that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down arrow" > > and > > translate it to "page down" in software. > > -mike > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- - Chuck (0 Days until IPv4 depletion: http://ipv4depletion.com/)

July 4, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by E Johnson

Oh. Well, that explains why I can't get the keymap code, thank you. I guess that explains why it's a fix in the BIOS too, if the BIOS will do it. But I need the keymap code. Need to do CTRL-C and CTRL-V a zillion times/day, but the distance between CTRL and C and V in this keyboard is too short. If CTRL was an inch to the left, life would be normal & arthriitic effects would be reduced. Thank you very much, Mike. Liz On 3 July 2012 18:32, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. > > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not using > > this method. > > many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get a > chance to > see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the keyboard > itself > that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down arrow" > and > translate it to "page down" in software. > -mike >

July 3, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by Mike Frysinger

On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not using > this method. many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get a chance to see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the keyboard itself that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down arrow" and translate it to "page down" in software. -mike

July 3, 2012

Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by E Johnson

Hi guys, I finally got a new keyboard after muddling along with my supernice one that was rapidly dying. Many errors, repeating keys, skips; cable had to be exactly the right angle; lights went out, etc. It needs rewiring. A soldering iron is on its way, whenever the lender can drop it off here, which clearly will not be today. Meanwhile the new one is almost okay, even if it is plastic. This is a Perixx PERIBOARD-502 PLUS, Wired USB Keyboard with Touchpad. BUT -- it has one serious fault. On this keyboard, the outboard key on the lower left side is FN but it needs to be CTRL. The CTRL key is in the wrong place. I use this key hundreds of times/day. So I need to remap this key to be the CTRL key. I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not using this method. Without the code, I can't xmodmap this key. I need output like this: KeyRelease event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x4600001, root 0x111, subw 0x0, time 1003909681, (508,-351), root:(512,327), state 0x4, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False -- where the part in parentheses after keysym contains the code I need. The manufacturer said they would check with their R&D, but it might take several days. Some solutions to issues like these say this can be done in the BIOS, but there's no guarantee, and I don't want to mess with the BIOS anyway. Is there another way I can find the keymap code for this key? Some keep-it-simple method that won't fry my overheated brain? Thanks very much, Liz J

July 3, 2012

Re: [Wlug] RFC: WLUG BBQ July/August timeframe

by Eric Martin

I'm in, although I can't host since we have our hands pretty full with a newborn. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > We usually have a WLUG summer BBQ around July or August, so I'd like > to get the planning discussion going now. Are people interested in > having a BBQ this year, and if so, would someone be willing to host > it? WLUG should enough in the bank to fund the food, so all we need > is a place with a BBQ grill and a time. > > Comments? Ideas? > > Chuck > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Eric Martin

June 23, 2012

RFC: WLUG BBQ July/August timeframe

by Chuck Anderson

We usually have a WLUG summer BBQ around July or August, so I'd like to get the planning discussion going now. Are people interested in having a BBQ this year, and if so, would someone be willing to host it? WLUG should enough in the bank to fund the food, so all we need is a place with a BBQ grill and a time. Comments? Ideas? Chuck

June 20, 2012

Re: [Wlug] OPENING - Mid to Sr level SW Engineer - Linux, C++

by John Spencer

I hope I did not insult anyone by asking for a Word resume for a "Linux" position, certainly not my intention. I get a lot of PDF's and my DB does not accept PDFs. At least I know you were reading my posting :) As I stated in my email, I will never send your resume anywhere without talking to you first. Please feel free to pass this opening along to your network Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com<www.connectedsp.com%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

June 18, 2012

Re: [Wlug] OPENING - Mid to Sr level SW Engineer - Linux, C++

by Gary Hanley

It would be surprising of they asked for anything else. Even if it is a "Linux" job, the corporate/business world is dominated by MS products. On 06/18/2012 03:35 PM, Frank Sweetser wrote: > Not that surprising. It's not uncommon for companies to outsource the > mechanics of hiring process (publishing listings, storing resumes, meeting > resume retention laws, etc), and even if it's only being read by in-house > people, the HR staff who get first crack at it are non-technical people likely > to be on Windows or Mac anyway. > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > > On 06/18/2012 03:12 PM, Clint Moyer wrote: >> Please send a Word version of your resume... For a "Linux" job. >> >> >> On Jun 18, 2012, at 1:52 PM, John Spencer<jspencer(a)connectedsp.com >> <mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com>> wrote: >> >>> We are seeking a Mid to Sr level Software Engineer to be responsible for >>> software design and development solutions. This is a perm position north of >>> Boston. >>> >>> Responsible for Software Development Life Cycle including design, >>> development, integration and test >>> " Demonstrable ability to communicate complex concepts verbally and in writing >>> " Responsible for major portions of software projects. >>> " Write system design and specifications >>> " Development in accordance with design requirements >>> " Perform software verification procedures and document results >>> " Generate software release >>> >>> Skills& Experience >>> " BSCS or related technical degree >>> " 4+ years of strong C++ and Linux >>> " Strong Object Oriented Design experience >>> " Background with multi-threading and Boost libraries >>> " Experience with software design patterns >>> " Ability to work with vendors, customers and other engineering groups >>> " Experience with medical devices or experience in a regulated industry >>> " Strong written and verbal communication skills >>> >>> Please send a Word version of your resume with any questions. >>> Please Note, your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> John Spencer >>> >>> >>> >>> Connected Systems Partners >>> >>> /Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies/ >>> >>> >>> >>> 978-455-5550 x208 >>> >>> 978-621-9743 cell >>> >>> jspencer(a)connectedsp.com<mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> www.connectedsp.com<www.connectedsp.com%20> >>> >>> * * >>> >>> *GET CONNECTED!* >>> >>> >>> >>> /Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this >>> email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the >>> recipient(s) only./ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org<mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

June 18, 2012

Re: [Wlug] OPENING - Mid to Sr level SW Engineer - Linux, C++

by Frank Sweetser

Not that surprising. It's not uncommon for companies to outsource the mechanics of hiring process (publishing listings, storing resumes, meeting resume retention laws, etc), and even if it's only being read by in-house people, the HR staff who get first crack at it are non-technical people likely to be on Windows or Mac anyway. Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 06/18/2012 03:12 PM, Clint Moyer wrote: > Please send a Word version of your resume... For a "Linux" job. > > > On Jun 18, 2012, at 1:52 PM, John Spencer <jspencer(a)connectedsp.com > <mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com>> wrote: > >> We are seeking a Mid to Sr level Software Engineer to be responsible for >> software design and development solutions. This is a perm position north of >> Boston. >> >> Responsible for Software Development Life Cycle including design, >> development, integration and test >> " Demonstrable ability to communicate complex concepts verbally and in writing >> " Responsible for major portions of software projects. >> " Write system design and specifications >> " Development in accordance with design requirements >> " Perform software verification procedures and document results >> " Generate software release >> >> Skills & Experience >> " BSCS or related technical degree >> " 4+ years of strong C++ and Linux >> " Strong Object Oriented Design experience >> " Background with multi-threading and Boost libraries >> " Experience with software design patterns >> " Ability to work with vendors, customers and other engineering groups >> " Experience with medical devices or experience in a regulated industry >> " Strong written and verbal communication skills >> >> Please send a Word version of your resume with any questions. >> Please Note, your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Spencer >> >> >> >> Connected Systems Partners >> >> /Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies/ >> >> >> >> 978-455-5550 x208 >> >> 978-621-9743 cell >> >> jspencer(a)connectedsp.com <mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com> >> >> >> >> www.connectedsp.com <www.connectedsp.com%20> >> >> * * >> >> *GET CONNECTED!* >> >> >> >> /Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this >> email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the >> recipient(s) only./ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

June 18, 2012

Re: [Wlug] OPENING - Mid to Sr level SW Engineer - Linux, C++

by Clint Moyer

Please send a Word version of your resume... For a "Linux" job. On Jun 18, 2012, at 1:52 PM, John Spencer <jspencer(a)connectedsp.com> wrote: > We are seeking a Mid to Sr level Software Engineer to be responsible for software design and development solutions. This is a perm position north of Boston. > > Responsible for Software Development Life Cycle including design, development, integration and test > " Demonstrable ability to communicate complex concepts verbally and in writing > " Responsible for major portions of software projects. > " Write system design and specifications > " Development in accordance with design requirements > " Perform software verification procedures and document results > " Generate software release > > Skills & Experience > " BSCS or related technical degree > " 4+ years of strong C++ and Linux > " Strong Object Oriented Design experience > " Background with multi-threading and Boost libraries > " Experience with software design patterns > " Ability to work with vendors, customers and other engineering groups > " Experience with medical devices or experience in a regulated industry > " Strong written and verbal communication skills > > Please send a Word version of your resume with any questions. > Please Note, your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. > > > Regards, > John Spencer > > Connected Systems Partners > Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies > > 978-455-5550 x208 > 978-621-9743 cell > jspencer(a)connectedsp.com > > www.connectedsp.com > > GET CONNECTED! > > Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 18, 2012

OPENING - Mid to Sr level SW Engineer - Linux, C++

by John Spencer

We are seeking a Mid to Sr level Software Engineer to be responsible for software design and development solutions. This is a perm position north of Boston. Responsible for Software Development Life Cycle including design, development, integration and test " Demonstrable ability to communicate complex concepts verbally and in writing " Responsible for major portions of software projects. " Write system design and specifications " Development in accordance with design requirements " Perform software verification procedures and document results " Generate software release Skills & Experience " BSCS or related technical degree " 4+ years of strong C++ and Linux " Strong Object Oriented Design experience " Background with multi-threading and Boost libraries " Experience with software design patterns " Ability to work with vendors, customers and other engineering groups " Experience with medical devices or experience in a regulated industry " Strong written and verbal communication skills Please send a Word version of your resume with any questions. Please Note, your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com<www.connectedsp.com%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

June 18, 2012

looking to join the local linux community

by Wolf Bronski

Hello, My name is Rich. I've been using Ubuntu and CentOS for a while now. I'm into servers and I'm interested in documentation. I'd very much like to come to the next meeting as I live very close to WPI. I've written a guide about running a Redmine server on CentOS 6.2. It's not complete because i want to add other repositories like Git and SVN besides Mercurial (hg). You can download it at http://107.22.171.253/hg/test/file/fb531026ab76 I've written it in DocBook but there is also a PDF in the repo. Please email me if you wish. Have a great day.

June 18, 2012

Reminder: WLUG Meeting Wed 6/13 7PM: Secure Virtual Containers/Multi-Tenancy

by Chuck Anderson

Reminder about tonight's WLUG meeting. On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 04:16:13PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Hi folks, > > The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting will be > held next Wednesday, June 13, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI > Campus Center, Chairman's Room (room 129). > > Wednesday, June 13, 7:00 - 9:00 PM > WPI Campus Center, Chairman's Room (room 129) > > Dan Walsh of Red Hat will be giving a presentation on Secure Virtual > Containers/Multi-Tenancy: > > "During the Last few years as computers have become more powerful, > there has been a move towards server computing. Most people call this > "Cloud" computing. One key feature of this is moving servers out of > the data center and onto virtual machines. My presentation will > describe this as Multitenancy.. > > This talk will cover technologies from RHEL5, RHEL6 and RHEL7. > SELinux, Virtualization, Sandbox and Secure Container Applications." > > Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. > > See you there, > Chuck > President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

June 13, 2012

Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 6/13 7PM: Secure Virtual Containers/Multi-Tenancy

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting will be held next Wednesday, June 13, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus Center, Chairman's Room (room 129). Wednesday, June 13, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Chairman's Room (room 129) Dan Walsh of Red Hat will be giving a presentation on Secure Virtual Containers/Multi-Tenancy: "During the Last few years as computers have become more powerful, there has been a move towards server computing. Most people call this "Cloud" computing. One key feature of this is moving servers out of the data center and onto virtual machines. My presentation will describe this as Multitenancy.. This talk will cover technologies from RHEL5, RHEL6 and RHEL7. SELinux, Virtualization, Sandbox and Secure Container Applications." Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

June 6, 2012

Re: [Wlug] USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by E Johnson

Thanks for answering on this nice weekend. The keyboard was getting a little cruddy; I took the faceplate off I cleaned it, sprayed it with air from various angles until no more debris flew out. Messages in /var/log/messages so far shows it being unplugged twice (the keyboard itself + its USB hub). Shows it being plugged in, identified (twice), configuration chosen, etc. Two-hundreths of a second later, it disconnected and repeated the same sequence again. Then it seemed to settle down. This is an Aurora keyboard made by Enermax, the model without the number pad, no longer being manufactured. http://www.enermax.com.tw/files/ProductFile_eng/PF_File/65.pdf Size and shape and feel of a laptop keyboard. It's not plastic, it's very quiet, and it fits in my lap. It's definitely the wire. I can reproduce the problem, or cure it, by moving the wire. I run my keyboard in my lap; have run all keyboards this way for years. It's starting to look like every time I set the keyboard aside & get up, the wire wiggles just enough to seem to unplug, then plug in again. The weird thing is, the wire, although it moves when I move, seems fairly secure. It has a nice rubber boot thing that seems to hold it place as it runs through the hole in the case. Inside, the little circuit board that the wire runs into looks okay, connections look okay, capacitors look happy, etc. But the circuit board itself seems to be able to move a little bit. Maybe something is grounding out every once in a while. The back of the keyboard feels a little warm just where that circuit board is. Guess I'll take it apart again later & see if stabilizing or insulating the circuit board is possible, and if so, if it helps. Liz On 27 May 2012 08:39, <kstratton(a)fastmail.us> wrote: > Glad you resolved your issue. If all the devices are USB compliant, > there should be no issue but I was under the incorrect impression that the > computer had some years on it and was working correctly earlier. Linux > generally does not magically deconfigure itself which left hardware > issues. > > > At risk of sounding way too obvious: > > If moderate wiggling the harness near the keyboard causes problems and > the keyboard is something special, I would consider re-doing the connection > between the keyboard and the USB wire (will need soldering and disassembly > of the keyboard). There is very likely a wire to the keyboard broken at a > mechanical stress point near the keyboard . This will shorten the wire to > the keyboard several inches. Although there is information about a maximum > legnth, I do not recall anything in the USB specification that specifically > states that the harness has to be a specific legnth (no shorter and no > longer than). This is a somewhat risky procedure, so I would proceed only > where confident. It is also possible the problem is as simple a connector > pulling out of a circuit board, but I doubt that that is the case. > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 01:59 PM, E Johnson wrote: > > Oh, interesting. Never thought of that. I had plugged in: > > One USB headset > one USB keyboard > one USB mouse, connected via USB extension cable > one USB connector for the scanner (which was not connected to the scanner, > just laying there) > > I think that's about it. The keyboard has 2 USB ports which I never use. > (had problem even before this keyboard existed) > > I think the keyboard shows up twice in lsusb because it has 2 USB ports. > > Have been running on the new computer 4 hours now, moving stuff to the new > hard drive, & the problem migrated here --it's 99% probably the keyboard. > If I wiggle the wire where it enters the keyboard, the keyboard stops or > starts working. The error messages, which appeared on several different > sets of hardware & peripherals, 3 diifferent operating systems, also are > appearing in this new computer. I guess the rror messages are a separate > issue --a red herring. > > Too bad; I really, really like this keyboard, but they don't make this > model any more. > > I guess it's Solved, or sorted out, anyway. 1) Need keyboard; 2) deal with > error messages another time. > > Thanks very much! > > Liz J > > On 26 May 2012 11:29, <kstratton(a)fastmail.us> wrote: > > > I am not an expert on USB or linux for that matter, although I am > currently trying to grop the USB spec so that I can develop a USB devce to > attach to the bus. > > From what I am looking at, it looks liks you are loosing and reconnecting > much more than just you keyboard. Do you have many USB powered devices > plugged in the motherboard? Is it possible to move them on to a powered > USB hub? Doing this would reduce the load on the 5V supplied by the > USB connectors. This is really a shot in the dark and is somthing I would > try only if I had a USB hub laying around. > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 10:32 AM, E Johnson wrote: > > We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. > > If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of > the time, but not always. > > If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a > different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. > > The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the > connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB > connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged > in back there. > > This is output of lsusb: > > Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. > Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. > Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > > The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no > clue. > > Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this > disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a > specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's > becoming more frequent now. > > I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching > with the right terms). > > I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of > which is pasted here below. > > I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different > computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running > an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a > different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. > > This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I > just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot > of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. > > Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. > I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. > Very frustratiing problem. > > Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks very much, > Liz J > > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, > address 27 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB > disconnect, address 28 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub > found > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports > detected > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device > found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device > strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB > 2.0 HUB > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: > GENESYS > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2619 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID > v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2620 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: > USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, > address 29 > May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB > disconnect, address 30 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub > found > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports > detected > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device > found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device > strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB > 2.0 HUB > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: > GENESYS > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2621 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID > v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2622 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: > USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 > > > > > > > *_______________________________________________* > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > kstratton(a)fastmail.us > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > *_______________________________________________* > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > kstratton(a)fastmail.us > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 27, 2012

Re: [Wlug] USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by kstratton＠fastmail.us

Glad you resolved your issue. If all the devices are USB compliant, there should be no issue but I was under the incorrect impression that the computer had some years on it and was working correctly earlier. Linux generally does not magically deconfigure itself which left hardware issues. At risk of sounding way too obvious: If moderate wiggling the harness near the keyboard causes problems and the keyboard is something special, I would consider re-doing the connection between the keyboard and the USB wire (will need soldering and disassembly of the keyboard). There is very likely a wire to the keyboard broken at a mechanical stress point near the keyboard . This will shorten the wire to the keyboard several inches. Although there is information about a maximum legnth, I do not recall anything in the USB specification that specifically states that the harness has to be a specific legnth (no shorter and no longer than). This is a somewhat risky procedure, so I would proceed only where confident. It is also possible the problem is as simple a connector pulling out of a circuit board, but I doubt that that is the case. On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 01:59 PM, E Johnson wrote: Oh, interesting. Never thought of that. I had plugged in: One USB headset one USB keyboard one USB mouse, connected via USB extension cable one USB connector for the scanner (which was not connected to the scanner, just laying there) I think that's about it. The keyboard has 2 USB ports which I never use. (had problem even before this keyboard existed) I think the keyboard shows up twice in lsusb because it has 2 USB ports. Have been running on the new computer 4 hours now, moving stuff to the new hard drive, & the problem migrated here --it's 99% probably the keyboard. If I wiggle the wire where it enters the keyboard, the keyboard stops or starts working. The error messages, which appeared on several different sets of hardware & peripherals, 3 diifferent operating systems, also are appearing in this new computer. I guess the rror messages are a separate issue --a red herring. Too bad; I really, really like this keyboard, but they don't make this model any more. I guess it's Solved, or sorted out, anyway. 1) Need keyboard; 2) deal with error messages another time. Thanks very much! Liz J On 26 May 2012 11:29, <[1]kstratton(a)fastmail.us> wrote: I am not an expert on USB or linux for that matter, although I am currently trying to grop the USB spec so that I can develop a USB devce to attach to the bus. >From what I am looking at, it looks liks you are loosing and reconnecting much more than just you keyboard. Do you have many USB powered devices plugged in the motherboard? Is it possible to move them on to a powered USB hub? Doing this would reduce the load on the 5V supplied by the USB connectors. This is really a shot in the dark and is somthing I would try only if I had a USB hub laying around. On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 10:32 AM, E Johnson wrote: We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of the time, but not always. If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged in back there. This is output of lsusb: Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no clue. Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's becoming more frequent now. I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching with the right terms). I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of which is pasted here below. I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. Very frustratiing problem. Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much, Liz J May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 27 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 28 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2619 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2620 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 29 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 30 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2621 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2622 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list [2]Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org [3]http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- [4]kstratton(a)fastmail.us _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list [5]Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org [6]http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list [7]Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org [8]http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug References 1. mailto:kstratton@fastmail.us 2. mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org 3. http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug 4. mailto:kstratton@fastmail.us 5. mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org 6. http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug 7. mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org 8. http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- kstratton(a)fastmail.us

May 27, 2012

Re: [Wlug] USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by E Johnson

Oh, interesting. Never thought of that. I had plugged in: One USB headset one USB keyboard one USB mouse, connected via USB extension cable one USB connector for the scanner (which was not connected to the scanner, just laying there) I think that's about it. The keyboard has 2 USB ports which I never use. (had problem even before this keyboard existed) I think the keyboard shows up twice in lsusb because it has 2 USB ports. Have been running on the new computer 4 hours now, moving stuff to the new hard drive, & the problem migrated here --it's 99% probably the keyboard. If I wiggle the wire where it enters the keyboard, the keyboard stops or starts working. The error messages, which appeared on several different sets of hardware & peripherals, 3 diifferent operating systems, also are appearing in this new computer. I guess the rror messages are a separate issue --a red herring. Too bad; I really, really like this keyboard, but they don't make this model any more. I guess it's Solved, or sorted out, anyway. 1) Need keyboard; 2) deal with error messages another time. Thanks very much! Liz J On 26 May 2012 11:29, <kstratton(a)fastmail.us> wrote: > > I am not an expert on USB or linux for that matter, although I am > currently trying to grop the USB spec so that I can develop a USB devce to > attach to the bus. > > From what I am looking at, it looks liks you are loosing and reconnecting > much more than just you keyboard. Do you have many USB powered devices > plugged in the motherboard? Is it possible to move them on to a powered > USB hub? Doing this would reduce the load on the 5V supplied by the > USB connectors. This is really a shot in the dark and is somthing I would > try only if I had a USB hub laying around. > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 10:32 AM, E Johnson wrote: > > We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. > > If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of > the time, but not always. > > If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a > different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. > > The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the > connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB > connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged > in back there. > > This is output of lsusb: > > Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. > Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. > Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > > The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no > clue. > > Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this > disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a > specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's > becoming more frequent now. > > I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching > with the right terms). > > I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of > which is pasted here below. > > I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different > computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running > an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a > different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. > > This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I > just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot > of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. > > Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. > I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. > Very frustratiing problem. > > Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks very much, > Liz J > > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, > address 27 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB > disconnect, address 28 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub > found > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports > detected > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device > found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device > strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB > 2.0 HUB > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: > GENESYS > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2619 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID > v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2620 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: > USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, > address 29 > May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB > disconnect, address 30 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub > found > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports > detected > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device > found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device > strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB > 2.0 HUB > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: > GENESYS > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2621 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID > v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2622 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: > USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 > > > > > > > *_______________________________________________* > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > kstratton(a)fastmail.us > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by kstratton＠fastmail.us

I am not an expert on USB or linux for that matter, although I am currently trying to grop the USB spec so that I can develop a USB devce to attach to the bus. >From what I am looking at, it looks liks you are loosing and reconnecting much more than just you keyboard. Do you have many USB powered devices plugged in the motherboard? Is it possible to move them on to a powered USB hub? Doing this would reduce the load on the 5V supplied by the USB connectors. This is really a shot in the dark and is somthing I would try only if I had a USB hub laying around. On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 10:32 AM, E Johnson wrote: We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of the time, but not always. If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged in back there. This is output of lsusb: Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no clue. Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's becoming more frequent now. I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching with the right terms). I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of which is pasted here below. I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. Very frustratiing problem. Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much, Liz J May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 27 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 28 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2619 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2620 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 29 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 30 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2621 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2622 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list [1]Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org [2]http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug References 1. mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org 2. http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- kstratton(a)fastmail.us

May 26, 2012

USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by E Johnson

We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of the time, but not always. If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged in back there. This is output of lsusb: Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no clue. Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's becoming more frequent now. I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching with the right terms). I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of which is pasted here below. I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. Very frustratiing problem. Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much, Liz J May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 27 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 28 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2619 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2620 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 29 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 30 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2621 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2622 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0

May 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting: Wed May 9, Morgan Hall

by Keith Wright

> From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > > This month, the Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting is > back to our usual Wednesday and our old location: Woops. I was just getting my things together to go over there when I decided to double check the place. I haven't forgotten you, I've forgotten myself. See you next month, I guess. -- Keith

May 10, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by E Johnson

Yes, the ls command did deliver me a list of files in the directory, sorted by filename. I was working from within the directory when I issued the command but it probably doesn't matter. Liz J On 9 May 2012 20:41, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > That worked. > Thanks, > Liz > > On 9 May 2012 19:08, Aljerin Butler,Jr. <albutlerjr(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> You can also try: >> ls | sort > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >>

May 10, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by E Johnson

That worked. Thanks, Liz On 9 May 2012 19:08, Aljerin Butler,Jr. <albutlerjr(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > You can also try: > ls | sort > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >

May 10, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by Brett Russ

I know this issue is solved/dead/buried, but there were a couple responses (below) that should be clarified. I was told in the past that ls stands for "list sorted", a statement I can't confirm from the usual internet fact check sites. In any case, it is specifically designed to (alphabetically) sort output, no need to invoke any other sorts. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Aljerin Butler,Jr. <albutlerjr(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > You can also try: > ls | sort > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > She said she wanted a sorted list, and the above commands will work > even if she creates subdirectories in the future. > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:10 PM, soup <soupforare(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Why not just 'ls > filelist.lst'?

May 9, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by Aljerin Butler,Jr.

You can also try: ls | sort > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >________________________________ > From: "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 12:00 PM >Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 103, Issue 3 > >----- Forwarded Message ----- > >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (E Johnson) > 2. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (Theo Van Dinter) > 3. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > (kevin.paetzold) > 4. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (E Johnson) > 5. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (Theo Van Dinter) > 6. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (E Johnson) >Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! > >I used: > >(in the directory I need output from) > >ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt > >That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we >can print it. > >Beautiful. Thanks guys! > >Liz > > >On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >> within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >> file? >> >> I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >> order to sort. >> >> Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >> >> I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >> probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >> names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >> >> I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >> >> Thanks extremely, >> Liz J > > >Even better, you don't need the "-1". ls determines if it's output is going to a tty and auto-enables the "-1" mode when it's not, such as when you're writing to a file. :) > > >I have to ask though, why would you put the list of files in a spreadsheet just to print it? Seems like something you could do via the machine itself (if printing is configured), or worst case you just print the text file. > > > >On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:22 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! >> >>I used: >> >>(in the directory I need output from) >> >> ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >> >>That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we >>can print it. >> >>Beautiful. Thanks guys! >> >>Liz >> >> >>On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >>> within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >>> file? >>> >>> I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >>> order to sort. >>> >>> Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >>> >>> I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >>> probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >>> names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >>> >>> I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >>> >>> Thanks extremely, >>> Liz J >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >i would do something like: >tree -f -i dirname > dirlist.txt > > >A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand >side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor >doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. >It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in >our directory. > >Or, I need a command which will print the filenames in several columns >(six, I think, with reasonlable space in between columns) on a series >of landscape-oriented pages. I probably need to define the font. I >think we used 8pt arial last time, which came out on one page. Now we >have 3x as many files in the directory but still need a printout for >reference. > >Liz > >On 8 May 2012 18:27, Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: >> Even better, you don't need the "-1". ls determines if it's output is going >> to a tty and auto-enables the "-1" mode when it's not, such as when you're >> writing to a file. :) >> >> I have to ask though, why would you put the list of files in a spreadsheet >> just to print it? Seems like something you could do via the machine itself >> (if printing is configured), or worst case you just print the text file. >> >> >> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:22 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! >>> >>> I used: >>> >>> (in the directory I need output from) >>> >>> ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >>> >>> That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we >>> can print it. >>> >>> Beautiful. Thanks guys! >>> >>> Liz >>> >>> >>> On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >>> > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >>> > file? >>> > >>> > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >>> > order to sort. >>> > >>> > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >>> > >>> > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >>> > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >>> > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >>> > >>> > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >>> > >>> > Thanks extremely, >>> > Liz J >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > >On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand >>side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor >>doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. >>It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in >>our directory. >> > > >So you want something similar to the terminal ls output, ie: filenames in columns? >You can do something like "ls | pr -6tT" which will generate a 6 column output w/ the filenames. >You can further tweak pr with other options. > >OK. That produced an output such as: > >005p080_081 038p332_333 040p392_393 100p112_113 405p074_075 414p230_231 >005p082_083 038p372_373 040p414_415 1044p39v_14 405p092_093 414p338_339 >005p094_095 038p378_379 040p450_451 1052p211v_2 405p196_197 414p428_429 >005p118_119 038p400_401 040p472_473 105p076_076 405p232_233 414p467_468 >005p124_125 038p426_427 040p482_483 106p396_397 405p250_251 416p064_065 >005p126_127 038p438_439 041p010_011 107p504_505 405p322_323 416p174_175 >005p150_151 038p590_591 041p068_069 107p512_513 405p328_329 416p198_199 >416p212_213 424p174_175 433p248_249 457p314_315 504p204_205 762Ap254_25 >416p294_295 425p006_007 434p216_217 459p068_069 661Ap032_03 762Ap266_26 >417p052_053 426p034_035 434p256_257 459p164_165 661p028_029 762p130_131 > >it printed to terminal. > >The ls command with redirect into text file did work though! All it >needed then was to copy/paste into word processor, then format into >colums, select font & type size. We got 500 filenames on 2 pages >horizontal. > >That's our checklist --it's done. Looks good. We're happy. > >Thanks again, >Liz > > >On 8 May 2012 20:18, Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: >> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand >>> side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor >>> doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. >>> It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in >>> our directory. >> >> >> So you want something similar to the terminal ls output, ie: filenames in >> columns? >> You can do something like "ls | pr -6tT" which will generate a 6 column >> output w/ the filenames. >> You can further tweak pr with other options. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

May 9, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file? SOLVED

by E Johnson

OK. That produced an output such as: 005p080_081 038p332_333 040p392_393 100p112_113 405p074_075 414p230_231 005p082_083 038p372_373 040p414_415 1044p39v_14 405p092_093 414p338_339 005p094_095 038p378_379 040p450_451 1052p211v_2 405p196_197 414p428_429 005p118_119 038p400_401 040p472_473 105p076_076 405p232_233 414p467_468 005p124_125 038p426_427 040p482_483 106p396_397 405p250_251 416p064_065 005p126_127 038p438_439 041p010_011 107p504_505 405p322_323 416p174_175 005p150_151 038p590_591 041p068_069 107p512_513 405p328_329 416p198_199 416p212_213 424p174_175 433p248_249 457p314_315 504p204_205 762Ap254_25 416p294_295 425p006_007 434p216_217 459p068_069 661Ap032_03 762Ap266_26 417p052_053 426p034_035 434p256_257 459p164_165 661p028_029 762p130_131 it printed to terminal. The ls command with redirect into text file did work though! All it needed then was to copy/paste into word processor, then format into colums, select font & type size. We got 500 filenames on 2 pages horizontal. That's our checklist --it's done. Looks good. We're happy. Thanks again, Liz On 8 May 2012 20:18, Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand >> side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor >> doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. >> It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in >> our directory. > > > So you want something similar to the terminal ls output, ie: filenames in > columns? > You can do something like "ls | pr -6tT" which will generate a 6 column > output w/ the filenames. > You can further tweak pr with other options. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 9, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file? SOLVED

by Theo Van Dinter

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand > side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor > doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. > It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in > our directory. > So you want something similar to the terminal ls output, ie: filenames in columns? You can do something like "ls | pr -6tT" which will generate a 6 column output w/ the filenames. You can further tweak pr with other options.

May 9, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file? SOLVED

by E Johnson

A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in our directory. Or, I need a command which will print the filenames in several columns (six, I think, with reasonlable space in between columns) on a series of landscape-oriented pages. I probably need to define the font. I think we used 8pt arial last time, which came out on one page. Now we have 3x as many files in the directory but still need a printout for reference. Liz On 8 May 2012 18:27, Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: > Even better, you don't need the "-1". ls determines if it's output is going > to a tty and auto-enables the "-1" mode when it's not, such as when you're > writing to a file. :) > > I have to ask though, why would you put the list of files in a spreadsheet > just to print it? Seems like something you could do via the machine itself > (if printing is configured), or worst case you just print the text file. > > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:22 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! >> >> I used: >> >> (in the directory I need output from) >> >> ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >> >> That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we >> can print it. >> >> Beautiful. Thanks guys! >> >> Liz >> >> >> On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >> > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >> > file? >> > >> > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >> > order to sort. >> > >> > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >> > >> > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >> > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >> > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >> > >> > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >> > >> > Thanks extremely, >> > Liz J >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by kevin.paetzold

i would do something like: tree -f -i dirname > dirlist.txt

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file? SOLVED

by Theo Van Dinter

Even better, you don't need the "-1". ls determines if it's output is going to a tty and auto-enables the "-1" mode when it's not, such as when you're writing to a file. :) I have to ask though, why would you put the list of files in a spreadsheet just to print it? Seems like something you could do via the machine itself (if printing is configured), or worst case you just print the text file. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:22 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! > > I used: > > (in the directory I need output from) > > ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt > > That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we > can print it. > > Beautiful. Thanks guys! > > Liz > > > On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames > > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text > > file? > > > > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in > > order to sort. > > > > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. > > > > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but > > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file > > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. > > > > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. > > > > Thanks extremely, > > Liz J > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file? SOLVED

by E Johnson

Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! I used: (in the directory I need output from) ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we can print it. Beautiful. Thanks guys! Liz On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text > file? > > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in > order to sort. > > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. > > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. > > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. > > Thanks extremely, > Liz J

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by Jason Couture

She said she wanted a sorted list, and the above commands will work even if she creates subdirectories in the future. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:10 PM, soup <soupforare(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Why not just 'ls > filelist.lst'? > > > On 5/8/2012 17:52, E Johnson wrote: >> Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >> within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >> file? >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by Jason Couture

Run this in that directory, should work on any linux distro with bash and grep. find -maxdepth 1 -type f -exec basename {} \; | sort | grep -v "filelist.txt" > filelist.txt This e-mail transmission, including any attachments, is intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this transmission in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and permanently delete this transmission, including any attachments. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:08 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Wow you guys are great. > > I need only the filesnames in a specific directory This has no > subdirectories, only about 400-500 files, all the same kind (pdf's) > > Liz > > > > On 8 May 2012 17:54, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Do you need just the current directory? or do you need to walk >> subdirectories as well? >> >> This e-mail transmission, including any attachments, is intended only >> for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is >> privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under >> applicable law. If you have received this transmission in error, or >> are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender immediately >> by return e-mail and permanently delete this transmission, including >> any attachments. >> >> >> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >>> within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >>> file? >>> >>> I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >>> order to sort. >>> >>> Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >>> >>> I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >>> probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >>> names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >>> >>> I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >>> >>> Thanks extremely, >>> Liz J >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by soup

Why not just 'ls > filelist.lst'? On 5/8/2012 17:52, E Johnson wrote: > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text > file? >

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by E Johnson

Wow you guys are great. I need only the filesnames in a specific directory This has no subdirectories, only about 400-500 files, all the same kind (pdf's) Liz On 8 May 2012 17:54, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Do you need just the current directory? or do you need to walk > subdirectories as well? > > This e-mail transmission, including any attachments, is intended only > for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is > privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under > applicable law. If you have received this transmission in error, or > are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender immediately > by return e-mail and permanently delete this transmission, including > any attachments. > > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >> within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >> file? >> >> I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >> order to sort. >> >> Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >> >> I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >> probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >> names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >> >> I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >> >> Thanks extremely, >> Liz J >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by Jason Couture

# Find all files in the current directory and sub-directories, sort them by name, and remove the leading ./ in their path. write filenames to filelist.txt find -type f | sort | cut -b 3- > filelist.txt # Find all files in the current directoy only, sort by name, remove leading ./ write filenames to filelist.txt find -maxdepth 1 -type f -exec basename {} \; | sort > filelist.txt On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text > file? > > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in > order to sort. > > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. > > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. > > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. > > Thanks extremely, > Liz J > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by John Platt

> will create a file. >> will append to it. ls will do and -a if you need the hidden files. So ls > filename.txt. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text > file? > > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in > order to sort. > > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. > > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. > > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. > > Thanks extremely, > Liz J > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by Jason Couture

Do you need just the current directory? or do you need to walk subdirectories as well? This e-mail transmission, including any attachments, is intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this transmission in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and permanently delete this transmission, including any attachments. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text > file? > > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in > order to sort. > > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. > > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. > > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. > > Thanks extremely, > Liz J > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 8, 2012

list filenames within directory > output to text file?

by E Johnson

Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text file? I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in order to sort. Don't need to know permissions or anything else. I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. Thanks extremely, Liz J

May 8, 2012

WLUG Meeting: Wed May 9, Morgan Hall

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, This month, the Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting is back to our usual Wednesday and our old location: Wednesday, May 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Morgan Hall What do people want to talk about this month? I can demo Fedora 17 and some of its new features, including one fairly controversial change: moving everything to /usr. Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

May 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] (no subject)

by William Smith

The company I work for is hiring: http://jobs.dell.com/search/advanced-search/ASCategory/Operations/ASPostedD… :) It's worth looking into, if you ask me. ...Bill On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Anyone know of any place hiring for entry level it? I'm fairly skilled with > both linux system administration and have a good knowledge of windows system > administration for small AD setups. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Bill Smith Fall River, MA

May 6, 2012

Reminder: April WLUG Meeting: ZFS: Changed time/location

by Chuck Anderson

Here is a reminder for this month's WLUG meeting. See you Thursday at 7PM sharp in the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room. ----- Forwarded message from Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> ----- From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> To: wlug(a)wlug.org Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:42:16 -0400 Subject: [Wlug] Announce: April WLUG Meeting: ZFS: Changed time/location Precedence: list Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Hi folks, This month, the Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting will be held on THURSDAY instead of the usual Wednesday, and the meeting will be starting promptly at 7PM since we must finish and be out of the room by 8PM. Additionally, the location is different this month: Thursday, April 12, 7:00 - 8:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Century Room (room 331) Longtime WLUG member Tim Keller will be talking about ZFS, the Zettabyte FileSystem for Oracle Solaris and FreeBSD (ports available for Linux too). I'm sure there will be a demo as well. Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug ----- End forwarded message -----

April 10, 2012

(no subject)

by Jason Couture

Anyone know of any place hiring for entry level it? I'm fairly skilled with both linux system administration and have a good knowledge of windows system administration for small AD setups.

April 3, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by E Johnson

PM Thanks. Please try to remember not to allow these commercial websites access to your Contacts List unless you are sure they aren't gong to use your entire contacts list. Apparently one of your Contants was WLUG (did you "select" or "allow" that?), which then spammed EVERY WLUG mailing list member. Maybe t's not totally a Linkedin issue. Mybe you gave too-broad permissions to this entity. The result was Spam to every WLUG member, via the WLUG mailing list. Thanks for coming back to this. But please watch out in the future. Mailing lists should not be "members" of our general contacts lists. Make these list-addresses in a separate group & don't allow to be shared. Thanks, Liz J On 2 April 2012 19:17, Aljerin Butler,Jr. <albutlerjr(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hello all, > > This is a LinkedIn issue. I selected several people to connect to and > LinkedIn "sneaked in" the rest of my address book contacts. On the original > invitation presented by LinkedIn, I assumed that the half dozen or so > contacts I saw were all there was. I didn't notice if there were any > additional pages from which to select contacts ("Next" button). > > Al Butler > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> > *To:* wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2012 9:41 PM > *Subject:* Wlug Digest, Vol 101, Issue 6 > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Jason Couture) > 2. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (E Johnson) > 3. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Eric Martin) > 4. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (E Johnson) > 5. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Eric Martin) > Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email > contacts. > On Mar 23, 2012 6:59 PM, "Eric Martin" <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > It was sent to the wlug mailing list. My guess is somebody gave their > address book to LinkedIn, the same thing happened with Facebook a few years > back, IIRC (or was that on another mailing list?) > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:33 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Noooo! > > Did anyone else from WLUG receive this? If so, let's fix it. > > Please don't use the private WLUG mailing list contact info for > invitations to social sites! > > Al, please delete me from your Contacts immediately. > > WLUG: maybe some kind of Privacy statement should be posted on the WLUG > website (link on main page). I looked for some statement about how the > mailing list contacts should be private, but found none. Private mailing > lists are not for mining. > > Wrong, bad, no, please, no. My contact is not to be shared, not at any > time, for any reason. > > Thanks, > Liz J > > If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you > are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) > > On 23 March 2012 18:14, Al Butler <albutlerjr(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > [image: LinkedIn] > > > > [image: Al Butler] > > *From Al Butler* > > Information Technology and Services Professional > Greater Boston Area > > > > I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. > > - Al > > > > Confirm that you know Al<https://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/isd/6412973860/N4Pmccpb/?hs=…> > > > > You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Unsubscribe<http://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/uSTdRBL8TntbriFQlbXcoPTDk9Qxi…> > © 2012, LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct. Mountain View, CA 94043, > USA > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -- > Eric Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn > > Obviously so. > > Jason also commented: > > > Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email > contacts > > Not just "be careful" but more like: "Do Not allow" sites and apps any > access to your email contacts at all. > > Ppls contact info is not owned by whoever has the person in their Contacts > list. > > Maybe a link could be added to the WLUG mailing list signup page, sending > a proposed (requesting-to-join) WLUG mailing list member to a page stating > Privacy policy (non-share contacts info). If a proposed (requesting) > mailing list member must read Privacy policy, then agree (click Yes to > Agree) before becoming a member of the mailing list, maybe it would prevent > the idea that Contact lists can be so casually given away. > > Liz J > To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have > wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn > > Obviously so. > > Jason also commented: > > > > Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email > contacts > > Not just "be careful" but more like: "Do Not allow" sites and apps any > access to your email contacts at all. > > Ppls contact info is not owned by whoever has the person in their Contacts > list. > > Maybe a link could be added to the WLUG mailing list signup page, sending > a proposed (requesting-to-join) WLUG mailing list member to a page stating > Privacy policy (non-share contacts info). If a proposed (requesting) > mailing list member must read Privacy policy, then agree (click Yes to > Agree) before becoming a member of the mailing list, maybe it would prevent > the idea that Contact lists can be so casually given away. > > Liz J > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -- > Eric Martin > I should have made that more clear. > > Mail-list address or not, Iit still is not okay to give the WLUG email > address to any other entities whatsoever. Someone shared the WLUG a > mailing address with a certain social/commercial website. Then > secondhandedly WLUG mailing list contacted x number of individual > contacts on behalf of the social/commercial website The message > included a direct link to this commercial website. List members were > invited to click on this link, or else to click on the UNsubscribe > link. > > Even sharing the WLUG contact address with outside entities is Non-OK. > We all got Spammed because someone decided it was okay to give our > email to ___.com.. > > Liz J > > If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, > you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. > 1969) > > On 23 March 2012 21:09, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have > > wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. > > > > > I agree it's not ok to share your address book, but accidents happen. > That, and I was more getting at the fact that X service doesn't have our > individual email addresses. > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:34 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I should have made that more clear. > > Mail-list address or not, Iit still is not okay to give the WLUG email > address to any other entities whatsoever. Someone shared the WLUG a > mailing address with a certain social/commercial website. Then > secondhandedly WLUG mailing list contacted x number of individual > contacts on behalf of the social/commercial website The message > included a direct link to this commercial website. List members were > invited to click on this link, or else to click on the UNsubscribe > link. > > Even sharing the WLUG contact address with outside entities is Non-OK. > We all got Spammed because someone decided it was okay to give our > email to ___.com.. > > Liz J > > If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, > you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. > 1969) > > On 23 March 2012 21:09, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have > > wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -- > Eric Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

April 3, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by Aljerin Butler,Jr.

Hello all, This is a LinkedIn issue. I selected several people to connect to and LinkedIn "sneaked in" the rest of my address book contacts. On the original invitation presented by LinkedIn, I assumed that the half dozen or so contacts I saw were all there was. I didn't notice if there were any additional pages from which to select contacts ("Next" button). Al Butler >________________________________ > From: "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 9:41 PM >Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 101, Issue 6 > >----- Forwarded Message ----- > >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Jason Couture) > 2. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (E Johnson) > 3. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Eric Martin) > 4. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (E Johnson) > 5. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Eric Martin) > >Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email contacts. >On Mar 23, 2012 6:59 PM, "Eric Martin" <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >It was sent to the wlug mailing list. My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn, the same thing happened with Facebook a few years back, IIRC (or was that on another mailing list?) >> >> >>On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:33 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>Noooo! >>> >>>Did anyone else from WLUG receive this? If so, let's fix it. >>> >>>Please don't use the private WLUG mailing list contact info for invitations to social sites! >>> >>>Al, please delete me from your Contacts immediately. >>> >>>WLUG: maybe some kind of Privacy statement should be posted on the WLUG website (link on main page). I looked for some statement about how the mailing list contacts should be private, but found none. Private mailing lists are not for mining. >>> >>>Wrong, bad, no, please, no. My contact is not to be shared, not at any time, for any reason. >>> >>>Thanks, >>>Liz J >>> >>>If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) >>> >>> >>>On 23 March 2012 18:14, Al Butler <albutlerjr(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From Al Butler >>>> >>>>Information Technology and Services Professional >>>>Greater Boston Area >>>> >>>> >>>> I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. >>>> >>>>- Al >>>> >>>> >>>>Confirm that you know Al >>>> >>>> >>>>You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Unsubscribe >>>>© 2012, LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct. Mountain View, CA 94043, USA >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Wlug mailing list >>>>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>>> >>>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Wlug mailing list >>>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> >> >> >> >>-- >>Eric Martin >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn > >Obviously so. > >Jason also commented: > >> Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email contacts > >Not just "be careful" but more like: "Do Not allow" sites and apps any access to your email contacts at all. > >Ppls contact info is not owned by whoever has the person in their Contacts list. > >Maybe a link could be added to the WLUG mailing list signup page, sending a proposed (requesting-to-join) WLUG mailing list member to a page stating Privacy policy (non-share contacts info). If a proposed (requesting) mailing list member must read Privacy policy, then agree (click Yes to Agree) before becoming a member of the mailing list, maybe it would prevent the idea that Contact lists can be so casually given away. > >Liz J > >To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. > > >On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn >> >>Obviously so. >> >>Jason also commented: >> >> >>> Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email contacts >> >>Not just "be careful" but more like: "Do Not allow" sites and apps any access to your email contacts at all. >> >>Ppls contact info is not owned by whoever has the person in their Contacts list. >> >>Maybe a link could be added to the WLUG mailing list signup page, sending a proposed (requesting-to-join) WLUG mailing list member to a page stating Privacy policy (non-share contacts info). If a proposed (requesting) mailing list member must read Privacy policy, then agree (click Yes to Agree) before becoming a member of the mailing list, maybe it would prevent the idea that Contact lists can be so casually given away. >> >>Liz J >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > > >-- >Eric Martin >I should have made that more clear. > >Mail-list address or not, Iit still is not okay to give the WLUG email >address to any other entities whatsoever. Someone shared the WLUG a >mailing address with a certain social/commercial website. Then >secondhandedly WLUG mailing list contacted x number of individual >contacts on behalf of the social/commercial website The message >included a direct link to this commercial website. List members were >invited to click on this link, or else to click on the UNsubscribe >link. > >Even sharing the WLUG contact address with outside entities is Non-OK. >We all got Spammed because someone decided it was okay to give our >email to ___.com.. > >Liz J > >If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, >you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. >1969) > >On 23 March 2012 21:09, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have >> wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. >> > > > >I agree it's not ok to share your address book, but accidents happen. That, and I was more getting at the fact that X service doesn't have our individual email addresses. > > >On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:34 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >I should have made that more clear. >> >>Mail-list address or not, Iit still is not okay to give the WLUG email >>address to any other entities whatsoever. Someone shared the WLUG a >>mailing address with a certain social/commercial website. Then >>secondhandedly WLUG mailing list contacted x number of individual >>contacts on behalf of the social/commercial website The message >>included a direct link to this commercial website. List members were >>invited to click on this link, or else to click on the UNsubscribe >>link. >> >>Even sharing the WLUG contact address with outside entities is Non-OK. >>We all got Spammed because someone decided it was okay to give our >>email to ___.com.. >> >> >>Liz J >> >>If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, >>you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. >>1969) >> >> >>On 23 March 2012 21:09, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have >>> wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. >>> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > >-- >Eric Martin > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

April 2, 2012

Announce: April WLUG Meeting: ZFS: Changed time/location

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, This month, the Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting will be held on THURSDAY instead of the usual Wednesday, and the meeting will be starting promptly at 7PM since we must finish and be out of the room by 8PM. Additionally, the location is different this month: Thursday, April 12, 7:00 - 8:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Century Room (room 331) Longtime WLUG member Tim Keller will be talking about ZFS, the Zettabyte FileSystem for Oracle Solaris and FreeBSD (ports available for Linux too). I'm sure there will be a demo as well. Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

April 2, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Talk for April... Thursday April 12?

by David Glaser

works for me. On 3/29/2012 9:08 AM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > How would people feel about having the April meeting on Thursday April > 12 instead of Wednesday April 11? I won't be available on Wednesday. > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 08:51:47AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: >> Thanks Tim, I think an offical ZFS talk would be great. I'll update >> the website and IRC channel. >> >> Chuck >> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:14:01PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: >>> I believe the previous talk was about btrfs and compared it to zfs. I >>> would consider this talk a stand alone talk that would focus on the >>> features of zfs. >>> >>> Though my head's really full of noise. It's quite possible I did a >>> talk about zfs and don't even remember! >>> >>> Later, >>> Tim. >>> >>> On 3/27/12, James Gray<jamespgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I'd like to hear more about ZFS. As you know there was a previous >>>> presentation on ZFS as well, so it would be nice to cover some new ground. >>>> I'd like to see some ZFS in action. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:29 PM, David Glaser >>>> <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sounds good to me! >>>>> >>>>> -David >>>>> >>>>> On 3/26/2012 12:33 PM, Tim Keller wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey Everybody, >>>>> >>>>> At the last meeting, there was some talk about ZFS... >>>>> >>>>> Would people be interested in me doing a talk about ZFS? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Tim. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 30, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Talk for April... Thursday April 12?

by James Gray

Works for me. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > How would people feel about having the April meeting on Thursday April > 12 instead of Wednesday April 11? I won't be available on Wednesday. > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 08:51:47AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > Thanks Tim, I think an offical ZFS talk would be great. I'll update > > the website and IRC channel. > > > > Chuck > > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:14:01PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > > I believe the previous talk was about btrfs and compared it to zfs. I > > > would consider this talk a stand alone talk that would focus on the > > > features of zfs. > > > > > > Though my head's really full of noise. It's quite possible I did a > > > talk about zfs and don't even remember! > > > > > > Later, > > > Tim. > > > > > > On 3/27/12, James Gray <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I'd like to hear more about ZFS. As you know there was a previous > > > > presentation on ZFS as well, so it would be nice to cover some new > ground. > > > > I'd like to see some ZFS in action. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:29 PM, David Glaser > > > > <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net>wrote: > > > > > > > >> Sounds good to me! > > > >> > > > >> -David > > > >> > > > >> On 3/26/2012 12:33 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Hey Everybody, > > > >> > > > >> At the last meeting, there was some talk about ZFS... > > > >> > > > >> Would people be interested in me doing a talk about ZFS? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Tim. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 29, 2012

Talk for April... Thursday April 12?

by Chuck Anderson

How would people feel about having the April meeting on Thursday April 12 instead of Wednesday April 11? I won't be available on Wednesday. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 08:51:47AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Thanks Tim, I think an offical ZFS talk would be great. I'll update > the website and IRC channel. > > Chuck > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:14:01PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > I believe the previous talk was about btrfs and compared it to zfs. I > > would consider this talk a stand alone talk that would focus on the > > features of zfs. > > > > Though my head's really full of noise. It's quite possible I did a > > talk about zfs and don't even remember! > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > On 3/27/12, James Gray <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > I'd like to hear more about ZFS. As you know there was a previous > > > presentation on ZFS as well, so it would be nice to cover some new ground. > > > I'd like to see some ZFS in action. > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:29 PM, David Glaser > > > <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net>wrote: > > > > > >> Sounds good to me! > > >> > > >> -David > > >> > > >> On 3/26/2012 12:33 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > > >> > > >> Hey Everybody, > > >> > > >> At the last meeting, there was some talk about ZFS... > > >> > > >> Would people be interested in me doing a talk about ZFS? > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Tim.

March 29, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Talk for April...

by Chuck Anderson

Thanks Tim, I think an offical ZFS talk would be great. I'll update the website and IRC channel. Chuck On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:14:01PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > I believe the previous talk was about btrfs and compared it to zfs. I > would consider this talk a stand alone talk that would focus on the > features of zfs. > > Though my head's really full of noise. It's quite possible I did a > talk about zfs and don't even remember! > > Later, > Tim. > > On 3/27/12, James Gray <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I'd like to hear more about ZFS. As you know there was a previous > > presentation on ZFS as well, so it would be nice to cover some new ground. > > I'd like to see some ZFS in action. > > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:29 PM, David Glaser > > <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net>wrote: > > > >> Sounds good to me! > >> > >> -David > >> > >> On 3/26/2012 12:33 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > >> > >> Hey Everybody, > >> > >> At the last meeting, there was some talk about ZFS... > >> > >> Would people be interested in me doing a talk about ZFS? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Tim.

March 29, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Talk for April...

by Tim Keller

I believe the previous talk was about btrfs and compared it to zfs. I would consider this talk a stand alone talk that would focus on the features of zfs. Though my head's really full of noise. It's quite possible I did a talk about zfs and don't even remember! Later, Tim. On 3/27/12, James Gray <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'd like to hear more about ZFS. As you know there was a previous > presentation on ZFS as well, so it would be nice to cover some new ground. > I'd like to see some ZFS in action. > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:29 PM, David Glaser > <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net>wrote: > >> Sounds good to me! >> >> -David >> >> On 3/26/2012 12:33 PM, Tim Keller wrote: >> >> Hey Everybody, >> >> At the last meeting, there was some talk about ZFS... >> >> Would people be interested in me doing a talk about ZFS? >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing >> listWlug@mail.wlug.orghttp://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > -- Sent from my mobile device I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 29, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Talk for April...

by James Gray

I'd like to hear more about ZFS. As you know there was a previous presentation on ZFS as well, so it would be nice to cover some new ground. I'd like to see some ZFS in action. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:29 PM, David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net>wrote: > Sounds good to me! > > -David > > On 3/26/2012 12:33 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > > Hey Everybody, > > At the last meeting, there was some talk about ZFS... > > Would people be interested in me doing a talk about ZFS? > > Thanks, > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing listWlug@mail.wlug.orghttp://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 27, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Talk for April...

by David Glaser

Sounds good to me! -David On 3/26/2012 12:33 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Everybody, > > At the last meeting, there was some talk about ZFS... > > Would people be interested in me doing a talk about ZFS? > > Thanks, > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by Tim Keller

Just so there's no confusion or overlap... there IS a facebook group for the Worcester Linux Users Group for which I'm the group owner. I made absolutely sure this group is NOT associated with the wlug(a)wlug.org when I created it. It has the address: worcester.linux.users.group(a)groups.facebook.com Thanks, Tim. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > On 03/25/2012 07:35 PM, Keith Wright wrote: > >> > >> If what you are getting online is for free, you are > >> not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan > >> Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) > > > > I have read that before, but did not have an > > attribution. I would like to offer and ammendment. > > > > you are not the customer, you are the merchandise. > > > > Facebook, Google, and Hotmail had nothing to do > > with producing me; I am not their product. > > > > -- Keith > > > > PS: Essay question 1: How does this aphorism > > apply to getting Linux for free? > > Would it be considered cheating to just refer someone to Eric Raymond? > > -- > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 26, 2012

Talk for April...

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, At the last meeting, there was some talk about ZFS... Would people be interested in me doing a talk about ZFS? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by Frank Sweetser

On 03/25/2012 07:35 PM, Keith Wright wrote: >> >> If what you are getting online is for free, you are >> not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan >> Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) > > I have read that before, but did not have an > attribution. I would like to offer and ammendment. > > you are not the customer, you are the merchandise. > > Facebook, Google, and Hotmail had nothing to do > with producing me; I am not their product. > > -- Keith > > PS: Essay question 1: How does this aphorism > apply to getting Linux for free? Would it be considered cheating to just refer someone to Eric Raymond? -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken

March 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by Keith Wright

> > If what you are getting online is for free, you are > not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan > Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) I have read that before, but did not have an attribution. I would like to offer and ammendment. you are not the customer, you are the merchandise. Facebook, Google, and Hotmail had nothing to do with producing me; I am not their product. -- Keith PS: Essay question 1: How does this aphorism apply to getting Linux for free?

March 25, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by Eric Martin

I agree it's not ok to share your address book, but accidents happen. That, and I was more getting at the fact that X service doesn't have our individual email addresses. On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:34 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I should have made that more clear. > > Mail-list address or not, Iit still is not okay to give the WLUG email > address to any other entities whatsoever. Someone shared the WLUG a > mailing address with a certain social/commercial website. Then > secondhandedly WLUG mailing list contacted x number of individual > contacts on behalf of the social/commercial website The message > included a direct link to this commercial website. List members were > invited to click on this link, or else to click on the UNsubscribe > link. > > Even sharing the WLUG contact address with outside entities is Non-OK. > We all got Spammed because someone decided it was okay to give our > email to ___.com.. > > Liz J > > If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, > you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. > 1969) > > On 23 March 2012 21:09, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have > > wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Eric Martin

March 24, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by E Johnson

I should have made that more clear. Mail-list address or not, Iit still is not okay to give the WLUG email address to any other entities whatsoever. Someone shared the WLUG a mailing address with a certain social/commercial website. Then secondhandedly WLUG mailing list contacted x number of individual contacts on behalf of the social/commercial website The message included a direct link to this commercial website. List members were invited to click on this link, or else to click on the UNsubscribe link. Even sharing the WLUG contact address with outside entities is Non-OK. We all got Spammed because someone decided it was okay to give our email to ___.com.. Liz J If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) On 23 March 2012 21:09, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have > wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. >

March 24, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by Eric Martin

To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn > > Obviously so. > > Jason also commented: > > > > Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email > contacts > > Not just "be careful" but more like: "Do Not allow" sites and apps any > access to your email contacts at all. > > Ppls contact info is not owned by whoever has the person in their Contacts > list. > > Maybe a link could be added to the WLUG mailing list signup page, sending > a proposed (requesting-to-join) WLUG mailing list member to a page stating > Privacy policy (non-share contacts info). If a proposed (requesting) > mailing list member must read Privacy policy, then agree (click Yes to > Agree) before becoming a member of the mailing list, maybe it would prevent > the idea that Contact lists can be so casually given away. > > Liz J > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Eric Martin

March 24, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by E Johnson

> My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn Obviously so. Jason also commented: > Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email contacts Not just "be careful" but more like: "Do Not allow" sites and apps any access to your email contacts at all. Ppls contact info is not owned by whoever has the person in their Contacts list. Maybe a link could be added to the WLUG mailing list signup page, sending a proposed (requesting-to-join) WLUG mailing list member to a page stating Privacy policy (non-share contacts info). If a proposed (requesting) mailing list member must read Privacy policy, then agree (click Yes to Agree) before becoming a member of the mailing list, maybe it would prevent the idea that Contact lists can be so casually given away. Liz J

March 23, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by Jason Couture

Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email contacts. On Mar 23, 2012 6:59 PM, "Eric Martin" <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It was sent to the wlug mailing list. My guess is somebody gave their > address book to LinkedIn, the same thing happened with Facebook a few years > back, IIRC (or was that on another mailing list?) > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:33 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Noooo! >> >> Did anyone else from WLUG receive this? If so, let's fix it. >> >> Please don't use the private WLUG mailing list contact info for >> invitations to social sites! >> >> Al, please delete me from your Contacts immediately. >> >> WLUG: maybe some kind of Privacy statement should be posted on the WLUG >> website (link on main page). I looked for some statement about how the >> mailing list contacts should be private, but found none. Private mailing >> lists are not for mining. >> >> Wrong, bad, no, please, no. My contact is not to be shared, not at any >> time, for any reason. >> >> Thanks, >> Liz J >> >> If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you >> are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) >> >> On 23 March 2012 18:14, Al Butler <albutlerjr(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> [image: LinkedIn] >>> >>> >>> >>> [image: Al Butler] >>> >>> *From Al Butler* >>> >>> Information Technology and Services Professional >>> Greater Boston Area >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. >>> >>> - Al >>> >>> >>> >>> Confirm that you know Al<https://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/isd/6412973860/N4Pmccpb/?hs=…> >>> >>> >>> >>> You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Unsubscribe<http://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/uSTdRBL8TntbriFQlbXcoPTDk9Qxi…> >>> © 2012, LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct. Mountain View, CA 94043, >>> USA >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > > -- > Eric Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 23, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by Eric Martin

It was sent to the wlug mailing list. My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn, the same thing happened with Facebook a few years back, IIRC (or was that on another mailing list?) On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:33 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Noooo! > > Did anyone else from WLUG receive this? If so, let's fix it. > > Please don't use the private WLUG mailing list contact info for > invitations to social sites! > > Al, please delete me from your Contacts immediately. > > WLUG: maybe some kind of Privacy statement should be posted on the WLUG > website (link on main page). I looked for some statement about how the > mailing list contacts should be private, but found none. Private mailing > lists are not for mining. > > Wrong, bad, no, please, no. My contact is not to be shared, not at any > time, for any reason. > > Thanks, > Liz J > > If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you > are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) > > On 23 March 2012 18:14, Al Butler <albutlerjr(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> [image: LinkedIn] >> >> >> >> [image: Al Butler] >> >> *From Al Butler* >> >> Information Technology and Services Professional >> Greater Boston Area >> >> >> >> >> I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. >> >> - Al >> >> >> >> Confirm that you know Al<https://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/isd/6412973860/N4Pmccpb/?hs=…> >> >> >> >> You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Unsubscribe<http://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/uSTdRBL8TntbriFQlbXcoPTDk9Qxi…> >> © 2012, LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct. Mountain View, CA 94043, >> USA >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Eric Martin

March 23, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by E Johnson

Noooo! Did anyone else from WLUG receive this? If so, let's fix it. Please don't use the private WLUG mailing list contact info for invitations to social sites! Al, please delete me from your Contacts immediately. WLUG: maybe some kind of Privacy statement should be posted on the WLUG website (link on main page). I looked for some statement about how the mailing list contacts should be private, but found none. Private mailing lists are not for mining. Wrong, bad, no, please, no. My contact is not to be shared, not at any time, for any reason. Thanks, Liz J If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) On 23 March 2012 18:14, Al Butler <albutlerjr(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > [image: LinkedIn] > > > > [image: Al Butler] > > *From Al Butler* > > Information Technology and Services Professional > Greater Boston Area > > > > > I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. > > - Al > > > > Confirm that you know Al<https://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/isd/6412973860/N4Pmccpb/?hs=…> > > > > You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Unsubscribe<http://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/uSTdRBL8TntbriFQlbXcoPTDk9Qxi…> > © 2012, LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct. Mountain View, CA 94043, > USA > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 23, 2012

Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by Al Butler

LinkedIn ------------ I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Al Al Butler Information Technology and Services Professional Greater Boston Area Confirm that you know Al Butler: https://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/isd/6412973860/N4Pmccpb/?hs=… -- You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Click to unsubscribe: http://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/uSTdRBL8TntbriFQlbXcoPTDk9Qxi… (c) 2012 LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA.

March 23, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Using Meetup

by Chuck Anderson

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:09:47AM -0500, Keith Wright wrote: > > From: Henrique <nican(a)WPI.EDU> > > I recommend WLUG also create a meetup group for attracting new > > members. Also Meetup is nice for sending out reminder emails about > > the meetings on the day before. > > WLUG has a mailing list, and I get mail from it regularly. > > It works. > > I am violently, foaming mad, opposed to the idea of > giving that mailing list to any third party. That isn't how meetup works. People who desire to be a part of the meetup group would sign themselves up, just as they sign themselves up for this mailing list. There are no plans to retire this mailing list.

March 22, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Using Meetup

by Keith Wright

> From: Henrique <nican(a)WPI.EDU> > > Hey, > > Yesterday I was browsing around Meetup.com, and found another group > called Worcester Web > Technology <http://www.meetup.com/Worcester-Web-Technology/>, and they are > also meeting at WPI, apparently on the third Thursday of every month. > (today) > > I recommend WLUG also create a meetup group for attracting new > members. Also Meetup is nice for sending out reminder emails about > the meetings on the day before. WLUG has a mailing list, and I get mail from it regularly. It works. I am violently, foaming mad, opposed to the idea of giving that mailing list to any third party. This includes Facebook, Yahoo, Google, as well as meetup.com, which I have never heard of. What advantage could there possibly be? If somebody wants to plant a pointer to the WLUG web page there, or most anywhere else, then go ahead. I can't stop you and I don't want to try. -- Keith

March 22, 2012

Using Meetup

by Henrique

Hey, Yesterday I was browsing around Meetup.com, and found another group called Worcester Web Technology <http://www.meetup.com/Worcester-Web-Technology/>, and they are also meeting at WPI, apparently on the third Thursday of every month. (today) I recommend WLUG also create a meetup group for attracting new members. Also Meetup is nice for sending out reminder emails about the meetings on the day before. Cheers, Henrique "nican" Polido.

March 22, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Belated announcement

by Pete Wason

Congratz! Same birthday as my first girlfriend. Whatever that means ;) On 2/16/2012 12:00 AM, James Gray wrote: > After a recent wlug meeting (I think it was December?) I mentioned that > my wife and I were expecting a child. Tim asked me to send an > announcement to the list. (So this announcement is not completely off > topic.) Below is my belated announcement regarding my son's birth. Since > I use mostly Linux and my wife Mac OS. We'll have to wait and see which > one he picks up first. But at least it won't be Windows. :-) > > James and Heather Gray are the proud parents of Owen James born 10:26 > p.m. December 31st, weighing 8 pounds, 4 ounces and 22 inches long. > Many fireworks were launched in his honor :-) All is well with Owen, > Heather and James. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 10, 2012

OPENINGS - Linux Kernel Engineer - perm in MA

by John Spencer

Hi All, We have a client in MA looking for a Sr or Prin Linux Kernel Engineer in the networking space. Must have strong and recent experience with Linux kernel development Must have experience with Network drivers Must have strong C experience Must understand TCP/IP and L2/L3. Please send any questions or interest with your resume to jspencer(a)connectedsp.com<mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com> Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com <www.connectedsp.com%20%20%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

March 1, 2012

Ceph

by Jason Couture

Has anyone here used ceph? I'm debating using it in a production cluster and would like input, alternatives, etc. Requirements: High availability, scales dynamically, fault tolerant, NO CODE CHANGES ( must appear as a posix compatible file system and be able to be mounted as such) nodes must be able to be added to the cluster at will. Prefer multi to multi copy for recovery (removed slow disk recovery bottleneck)

Feb. 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Belated announcement

by Eric Martin

Congrats! I'm expecting one in May and I've already received some awesome shell script t-shirts and onesies! On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM, James Gray <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: > After a recent wlug meeting (I think it was December?) I mentioned that > my wife and I were expecting a child. Tim asked me to send an announcement > to the list. (So this announcement is not completely off topic.) Below is > my belated announcement regarding my son's birth. Since I use mostly Linux > and my wife Mac OS. We'll have to wait and see which one he picks up > first. But at least it won't be Windows. :-) > > James and Heather Gray are the proud parents of Owen James born 10:26 > p.m. December 31st, weighing 8 pounds, 4 ounces and 22 inches long. > Many fireworks were launched in his honor :-) All is well with Owen, > Heather and James. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Eric Martin

Feb. 16, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Belated announcement

by Chuck Anderson

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:00:44AM -0500, James Gray wrote: > After a recent wlug meeting (I think it was December?) I mentioned that my > wife and I were expecting a child. Tim asked me to send an announcement to > the list. (So this announcement is not completely off topic.) Below is my > belated announcement regarding my son's birth. Since I use mostly Linux and > my wife Mac OS. We'll have to wait and see which one he picks up first. > But at least it won't be Windows. :-) > > James and Heather Gray are the proud parents of Owen James born 10:26 > p.m. December 31st, weighing 8 pounds, 4 ounces and 22 inches long. > Many fireworks were launched in his honor :-) All is well with Owen, > Heather and James. Congratulations!

Feb. 16, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Belated announcement

by John Stoffel

Congrats on your son's birth! Same day as my brother-in-law...

Feb. 16, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Belated announcement

by Bugra Yanik

Hi James, Congratulations! Bugra ________________________________ From: James Gray <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:00 AM Subject: [Wlug] Belated announcement After a recent wlug meeting (I think it was December?) I mentioned that my wife and I were expecting a child. Tim asked me to send an announcement to the list. (So this announcement is not completely off topic.) Below is my belated announcement regarding my son's birth. Since I use mostly Linux and my wife Mac OS. We'll have to wait and see which one he picks up first. But at least it won't be Windows. :-) James and Heather Gray are the proud parents of Owen James born 10:26 p.m. December 31st, weighing 8 pounds, 4 ounces and 22 inches long. Many fireworks were launched in his honor :-) All is well with Owen, Heather and James. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 16, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Belated announcement

by Andy Stewart

On 02/16/2012 12:00 AM, James Gray wrote: > After a recent wlug meeting (I think it was December?) I mentioned that > my wife and I were expecting a child. Tim asked me to send an > announcement to the list. (So this announcement is not completely off > topic.) Below is my belated announcement regarding my son's birth. Since > I use mostly Linux and my wife Mac OS. We'll have to wait and see which > one he picks up first. But at least it won't be Windows. :-) > > James and Heather Gray are the proud parents of Owen James born 10:26 > p.m. December 31st, weighing 8 pounds, 4 ounces and 22 inches long. > Many fireworks were launched in his honor :-) All is well with Owen, > Heather and James. Congratulations!!! Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

Feb. 16, 2012

Belated announcement

by James Gray

After a recent wlug meeting (I think it was December?) I mentioned that my wife and I were expecting a child. Tim asked me to send an announcement to the list. (So this announcement is not completely off topic.) Below is my belated announcement regarding my son's birth. Since I use mostly Linux and my wife Mac OS. We'll have to wait and see which one he picks up first. But at least it won't be Windows. :-) James and Heather Gray are the proud parents of Owen James born 10:26 p.m. December 31st, weighing 8 pounds, 4 ounces and 22 inches long. Many fireworks were launched in his honor :-) All is well with Owen, Heather and James.

Feb. 16, 2012

Announce: March WLUG Meeting & Northeast Linux Fest

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, NEXT month, we will have our regularly scheduled WLUG meeting: Wednesday, March 14, 7:00PM but most likely in a slightly different location. Our current meeting room will be in the process of being annexed by the dining hall, so we'll most likely meet in our old/previous meeting room on the opposite side of the same building. ALSO, the Northeast Linux Fest is happening again this year: Saturday, March 17, 9:00AM at Worcester State University. I encourage you to register for free here: http://www.northeastlinuxfest.org/ Thanks, and see you next month! Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

Feb. 9, 2012

Announce: WLUG Meeting Wednesday 2/8 7PM

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, We ARE having a WLUG meeting tonight, Wednesday, February 8 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

Feb. 8, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Postgres cluster

by Jason Couture

We did a few tests, for our purposes it turns out that postgres was quite a bit faster than MySQL, but its setup is quite a bit more complicated. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:40 PM, James Gray <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sounds like a good project. I wish I could offer some advice, but I am not > familiar with postgres. I hope someone else on this list has some ideas. > > I've been meaning to do more things with mysql as it seems to be the gateway > dbms and since I used it for a project a few years back. > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Could someone walk me through building a 3 machine postgres cluster with >> automatic fail over? I've searched and searched and I'm just not getting it. >> >> I currently have postgres 9.1 installed with 1 database as 9.1/main. I'd >> like to cluster this to provide ha and faster query times. Writes to the DB >> can be forced to the master only, so read-only slaves are okay (there are >> far more reads than writes) >> >> Can anyone help me out? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Postgres cluster

by James Gray

Sounds like a good project. I wish I could offer some advice, but I am not familiar with postgres. I hope someone else on this list has some ideas. I've been meaning to do more things with mysql as it seems to be the gateway dbms and since I used it for a project a few years back. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Could someone walk me through building a 3 machine postgres cluster with > automatic fail over? I've searched and searched and I'm just not getting it. > > I currently have postgres 9.1 installed with 1 database as 9.1/main. I'd > like to cluster this to provide ha and faster query times. Writes to the DB > can be forced to the master only, so read-only slaves are okay (there are > far more reads than writes) > > Can anyone help me out? > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Jan. 26, 2012

Vintage Computer Festival East 2012

by Evan Koblentz

Hello, I'm writing to user groups and hackerspaces to inform your members of a very unique upcoming event -- the Vintage Computer Festival East 8.0, May 5-6, in Wall, New Jersey. If you're not familiar with the Vintage Computer Festival, then please take a moment to keep reading .... The event is run by a user group called MARCH (Mid-Atlantic Retro Computing Hobbyists) of which I'm president. Each day of the weekend-long show contains lectures/workshops (in the morning) and an exhibit hall (in the afternoon.) This year's keynote speakers include Dartmouth's Dr. Thomas Kurtz, who co-invented BASIC (on Saturday) and Apple's Daniel Kottke (Steve Jobs' college buddy, India travel companion, Apple 1 board builder in Jobs' parent's garage, and Apple II/III/Mac engineer), on Sunday. Both days, in the afternoon, is our hands-on exhibit hall. Imagine an antique car show -- the cars are nice to look at, but you can't touch anything, and you certainly can't drive. Well, that is no fun at all! Our exhibitors are required to have their systems up and running for live demos all weekend! People can see minicomputers, punch card machines, teletypes, homebrew-era computers, 8-bit micros, etc., all live and running. The venue for our event is the InfoAge Science Center, which is a grassroots, all-volunteer, non-profit facility. It contains a computer museum (run by my user group), along with museums for antique radio/TV, shipwrecks, military communications, amateur radio, etc. -- all operated by independent clubs. Best of all, our event is dirt-cheap to get in. Adult tickets are just $10 a day and $15 for the weekend. Kids are admitted for free. Proceeds benefit our museum, which is strictly educational in nature -- we're all volunteers. In fact, we all lament that our jobs and families interfere with our volunteer time. :) Details are frequently updated at http://www.vintage.org/2012/east/ and http://www.facebook.com/vcfeast8. We'd be very grateful if you could share this announcement with your group members. People attend the Vintage Computer Festival East from all around the U.S. and even from other countries and continents. For now, however, we're reaching out to our fellow user groups around the northeast and mid-Atlantic. Thank you, - Evan Koblentz (evan(a)snarc.net, cell: 646-546-9999)

Jan. 26, 2012

OPENINGS - C, Linux, Network openings - perm and contract in MA

by John Spencer

We have several openings with clients in MA for Sr or Prin level Linux engineers. Northwest of Boston - perm (strong networking/datacom/telecom background) Each bullet represents key skills for a different opening * C, Linux kernel, network drivers, network stack experience * C, layer 2, layer 3, strong TCP/IP * C, Linux, (Linux kernel is a plus), Ethernet switching Cambridge - perm * C, embedded Linux, some kernel work, Agile/scrum environment Contract - West of Boston (12+ months) * C, embedded Linux, consumer electronics, wireless experience Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com <www.connectedsp.com%20%20%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

Jan. 25, 2012

Postgres cluster

by Jason Couture

Could someone walk me through building a 3 machine postgres cluster with automatic fail over? I've searched and searched and I'm just not getting it. I currently have postgres 9.1 installed with 1 database as 9.1/main. I'd like to cluster this to provide ha and faster query times. Writes to the DB can be forced to the master only, so read-only slaves are okay (there are far more reads than writes) Can anyone help me out?

Jan. 24, 2012

Embedded Linux Engineers contract openings

by John Spencer

Our client west of Boston has a couple of openings for strong embedded Linux engineers for long-term contracts. Must be US citizen or Perm Resident, must be local Embedded Linux (RTOS) Engineers (12+ mths contracts, west of Boston) Engineers will design, develop and deliver drivers and protocols for a wireless product. Engineer must have experience with low level embedded RTOS design and development including BSP's, board bring up and collaborating with the electrical engineers. Qualifications include: o Extensive experience with embedded Linux including kernel development (other RTOS's such as VxWorks, Integrity, Nucleus, etc. may be considered) o Experience with wireless embedded devices o Experience in audio technologies o Experience developing embedded apps for small devices with processing power a consideration. o Strong C/C++ skills. Assembly would be a strong plus o Experience with OOD. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com <www.connectedsp.com%20%20%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

Jan. 20, 2012

Super Wifi arrives in Hanover County, NC

by Tom Poe

Just read that Hanover County, NC, is moving to the FCC's authorized use of unlicensed broadcast frequency ("white spaces"). So, maybe it's a good time to put a proposal together to get our state counties to do the same. Anyone know the technical specs that would lay out a viable solution our county commissioners can consider? If you're interested, please contact me, or maybe we could discuss this as a topic on the mail list (best). Thanks, Tom

Jan. 18, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Where to find a software contractor?

by James Gray

I am subscribed to the boston python programming language meetup group and there are a lot of job ads on their email list. The jobs need to be relevant to the python programming language, but python sounds like as good a language as any for the type of project you describe. http://meetup.bostonpython.com/ A friend of my wife used elance.com. On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net>wrote: > > HI guys, > > I know a small businessman who is interested in potentially hiring > somebody to write a piece of custom software. He is wondering where he > would look to seek out contractors with the right credentials for this > small project. > > He didn't mention too many details, but it sounds like the project will > have something to do with bar code scanning, optical character > recognition, and some type of graphical interface, most probably in a > Windows environment. > > Where would you look if you were seeking a software professional on a > short term contract basis? > > Thanks, > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) > Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group > Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group > President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF) > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 18, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Where to find a software contractor?

by Steven Greenberg

The Boston PHP group has job fairs and many members, some are software contractors. www.bostonphp.org -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: http://www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

Jan. 18, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Where to find a software contractor?

by Jason Couture

Please excuse the 'she'. I was just having this same conversation a moment ago and got the two confused lol. This e-mail transmission, including any attachments, is intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this transmission in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and permanently delete this transmission, including any attachments. On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You can also try vworker.com. I'm a programmer on vworker, and this > link is an affiliate link (Meaning if she makes them money, i make > money too) but I'm referring it because its worthwhile. If she's > interested in possibly hiring me, the 2nd link will let her get a > quote > > http://www.vWorker.com/RentACoder/DotNet/SoftwareBuyers/HowItWorks.aspx?txt… > > http://www.vWorker.com/RentACoder/SoftwareBuyers/NewBidRequest.asp?lngForce… > > > > This e-mail transmission, including any attachments, is intended only > for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is > privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under > applicable law. If you have received this transmission in error, or > are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender immediately > by return e-mail and permanently delete this transmission, including > any attachments. > > > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Henrique <nican(a)wpi.edu> wrote: >> Hey, >> >> I have 5 invitations for Stack Overflow Careers. If you/the businessman want >> to take a look, I would be happy to give an invitation. >> >> Henrique "nican" Polido. >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> HI guys, >>> >>> I know a small businessman who is interested in potentially hiring >>> somebody to write a piece of custom software. He is wondering where he >>> would look to seek out contractors with the right credentials for this >>> small project. >>> >>> He didn't mention too many details, but it sounds like the project will >>> have something to do with bar code scanning, optical character >>> recognition, and some type of graphical interface, most probably in a >>> Windows environment. >>> >>> Where would you look if you were seeking a software professional on a >>> short term contract basis? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> -- >>> Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) >>> Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group >>> Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group >>> President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>

Jan. 18, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Where to find a software contractor?

by Jason Couture

You can also try vworker.com. I'm a programmer on vworker, and this link is an affiliate link (Meaning if she makes them money, i make money too) but I'm referring it because its worthwhile. If she's interested in possibly hiring me, the 2nd link will let her get a quote http://www.vWorker.com/RentACoder/DotNet/SoftwareBuyers/HowItWorks.aspx?txt… http://www.vWorker.com/RentACoder/SoftwareBuyers/NewBidRequest.asp?lngForce… This e-mail transmission, including any attachments, is intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this transmission in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and permanently delete this transmission, including any attachments. On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Henrique <nican(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Hey, > > I have 5 invitations for Stack Overflow Careers. If you/the businessman want > to take a look, I would be happy to give an invitation. > > Henrique "nican" Polido. > > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > wrote: >> >> >> HI guys, >> >> I know a small businessman who is interested in potentially hiring >> somebody to write a piece of custom software. He is wondering where he >> would look to seek out contractors with the right credentials for this >> small project. >> >> He didn't mention too many details, but it sounds like the project will >> have something to do with bar code scanning, optical character >> recognition, and some type of graphical interface, most probably in a >> Windows environment. >> >> Where would you look if you were seeking a software professional on a >> short term contract basis? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Andy >> >> -- >> Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) >> Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group >> Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group >> President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF) >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 18, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Where to find a software contractor?

by Henrique

Hey, I have 5 invitations for Stack Overflow Careers<http://careers.stackoverflow.com/>. If you/the businessman want to take a look, I would be happy to give an invitation. Henrique "nican" Polido. On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net>wrote: > > HI guys, > > I know a small businessman who is interested in potentially hiring > somebody to write a piece of custom software. He is wondering where he > would look to seek out contractors with the right credentials for this > small project. > > He didn't mention too many details, but it sounds like the project will > have something to do with bar code scanning, optical character > recognition, and some type of graphical interface, most probably in a > Windows environment. > > Where would you look if you were seeking a software professional on a > short term contract basis? > > Thanks, > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) > Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group > Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group > President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF) > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 18, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 99, Issue 13

by David Hardy

Depending on how critical the need; local college and university boards and, of course, user groups; also local Craigslist and the local/regional temp contract agencies like Adecco Technical and Engineering, CTG, etc. On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Where to find a software contractor? (Andy Stewart) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:27:01 -0500 > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Where to find a software contractor? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <4F14CE65.1030302(a)comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > HI guys, > > I know a small businessman who is interested in potentially hiring > somebody to write a piece of custom software. He is wondering where he > would look to seek out contractors with the right credentials for this > small project. > > He didn't mention too many details, but it sounds like the project will > have something to do with bar code scanning, optical character > recognition, and some type of graphical interface, most probably in a > Windows environment. > > Where would you look if you were seeking a software professional on a > short term contract basis? > > Thanks, > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) > Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group > Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group > President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF) > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 99, Issue 13 > ************************************ >

Jan. 17, 2012

Where to find a software contractor?

by Andy Stewart

HI guys, I know a small businessman who is interested in potentially hiring somebody to write a piece of custom software. He is wondering where he would look to seek out contractors with the right credentials for this small project. He didn't mention too many details, but it sounds like the project will have something to do with bar code scanning, optical character recognition, and some type of graphical interface, most probably in a Windows environment. Where would you look if you were seeking a software professional on a short term contract basis? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

Jan. 17, 2012

IPv6

by William Smith

I read the powerpoint presentation that was posted here a short while ago and found it a bit helpful. I started setting up IPv6 on my home LAN last year. I got as far as setting up my Linux server to open a tunnel through SixXS. My ISP doesn't offer IPv6 quite yet, and even if they did, my firewall doesn't support it. That's why the tunnel. What I can't do yet is use IPv6 from other systems on my LAN. From the server, I can get almost anywhere I want to go using IPv6. Using the notes from the PPT presentation, I found out that I might have only STARTED setting it up. It looks like parts that should be there aren't, but I don't want to blindly set things without fully understanding what I'm messing with. I'm not sure if I have to put an address on the ethernet interface and set up a route or what. Any thoughts on what to watch for? -- Bill Smith Fall River, MA

Jan. 12, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Meeting this week???

by Jason Couture

If you'd like info or help with c#, including help or info on mono, ask away. I'm more knowledgeable about .net in general (excluding asp.net) On Jan 8, 2012 11:44 PM, "Henrique" <nican(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Hey, > > I finished reading the "Java NIO," which is about Java's new I/O, and > "Hadoop," a database which Facebook uses to handle 21Petabytes of > information which was originally based on Google's MapReduce papers (Also > started reading a book on C#/.NET) and I would happy to make a > presentation about the technologies. > > Happy new year, > Henrique "nican" Polido. > > > > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey gang, >> >> Are we going to have a meeting this week? If so, what topic would people >> like to talk about? >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Jan. 12, 2012

second annual Northeast Linux Fest

by Jonathan Nadeau

Hello list Announcing the 2nd annual Northeast GNU/Linuxfest. Where: Worcester State University, Worcester MA When: March 17, 2012 Info: http://northeastlinuxfest.org Last year we had just speakers at the event. This year we are stepping it up considerably. We are featuring a hackerspace competition where teams from across the Northeast will compete for prizes for best design. This years theme is accessibility. We will also hold LPI and BSD exams on the morning of the event. The folks from Open Street Map will hold workshops throughout the day. We also have tables from various sponsors. Among the keynote speakers this year will be the other organizer for the event Jonathan Nadeau. Jonathan is blind but this has not prevented him from working with Debian, Fedora and Triquel in hopes of making each distribution more accessible for vision impaired or physically disabled. This is an event that can also be used to meet other people in the linux world and make new contacts. This is an all day event. All events will be held in the main student center. There is also a cafeteria on the second floor which features a $5 all you can eat buffet. Last but not least, if you are 21 or older we have our very popular after party event at Jillians. We also have arranged to get special room rates at the Worcester Marriott. You must reserve your room before February 17, 2012 to get this rate. You can either use the link off the Northeastlinuxfest website or you can make reservations over the phone but be sure to mention the Northeast Linuxfest group to get the rate. You can get to Worcester by train or bus if you do not have a ride. You can find that information on the website as well. We hope you can attend and most most important, the admission is free! The website again is http://northeastlinuxfest.org Take back control of your software, take back control of your computer! -- Jonathan Nadeau http://www.jnadeau.org Northeast GNU/Linux fest http://www.northeastlinuxfest.org

Jan. 10, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Meeting this week???

by Chuck Anderson

Yes, we are having our usual 2nd Wednesday meeting. On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 03:59:17PM -0500, Henrique wrote: > Well, > > Still does not answer the original question, are we having the meeting? > Can anyone reach Chuck? > > Thanks, > Henrique. > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Funny enough, I just built up a rack of machines to do some Hadoop testing! > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 11:43 PM, Henrique <nican(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > > > > Hey, > > > > I finished reading the "Java NIO," which is about Java's new I/O, and > > "Hadoop," a database which Facebook uses to handle 21Petabytes of > > information which was originally based on Google's MapReduce papers (Also > > started reading a book on C#/.NET) and I would happy to make a > > presentation about the technologies. > > > > Happy new year, > > Henrique "nican" Polido. > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hey gang, > >> > >> Are we going to have a meeting this week? If so, what topic would people > >> like to talk about? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Tim.

Jan. 9, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Meeting this week???

by Henrique

Well, Still does not answer the original question, are we having the meeting? Can anyone reach Chuck? Thanks, Henrique. On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Funny enough, I just built up a rack of machines to do some Hadoop testing! > > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 11:43 PM, Henrique <nican(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > > Hey, > > I finished reading the "Java NIO," which is about Java's new I/O, and > "Hadoop," a database which Facebook uses to handle 21Petabytes of > information which was originally based on Google's MapReduce papers (Also > started reading a book on C#/.NET) and I would happy to make a > presentation about the technologies. > > Happy new year, > Henrique "nican" Polido. > > > > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey gang, >> >> Are we going to have a meeting this week? If so, what topic would people >> like to talk about? >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Jan. 9, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Monitor resolution ...

by Theodore Ruegsegger

Kieran O'Callaghan wrote: > Yep. It's the same sad situation as the birth of Winmodems. You can > expect to only get the lowest common denominator junk, or to pay a > premium for a vastly reduced selection of 'professional' monitors. So true, for so much, from the tech shop to the produce aisle. > ... the wolves have voted with their wallets and you're what's for > dinner. As long as we're mixing metaphors so delightfully, isn't it the sheep that vote with their wallets? The wolves are happy to shear them either way! Thanks for my first guffaw of the day, Ted

Jan. 9, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Meeting this week???

by Tim Keller

Funny enough, I just built up a rack of machines to do some Hadoop testing! On Jan 8, 2012, at 11:43 PM, Henrique <nican(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > Hey, > > I finished reading the "Java NIO," which is about Java's new I/O, and "Hadoop," a database which Facebook uses to handle 21Petabytes of information which was originally based on Google's MapReduce papers (Also started reading a book on C#/.NET) and I would happy to make a presentation about the technologies. > > Happy new year, > Henrique "nican" Polido. > > > > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey gang, > > Are we going to have a meeting this week? If so, what topic would people like to talk about? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 9, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Monitor resolution ...

by Kieran O'Callaghan

Yep. It's the same sad situation as the birth of Winmodems. You can expect to only get the lowest common denominator junk, or to pay a premium for a vastly reduced selection of 'professional' monitors. There was a good XKCD that went something like: "Wow, 1080 lines! That's nearly _twice_ the vertical resolution of my phone!". I mean, it is a golden age if you want a really, really physically large monitor for a low price. If you really care about other specs though, you're out of luck, the wolves have voted with their wallets and you're what's for dinner. On Sat, 2012-01-07 at 11:37 -0500, Gregory Boyce wrote: > The general public has been trained that HD resolutions are the best, > and LCD manufacturers get economy of scale by making TVs and monitors > at 1080p ) > > On Jan 7, 2012 11:30 AM, "David Glaser" <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> > wrote: > I was looking at monitors at WurstBuy and noticed that the > maximum vertical resolution is 1080 lines. > > I then looked at the sites of the various monitor > manufacturers and also noticed that almost all of their > offerings has a maximum vertical resolution of 1080 lines. > You could get higher resolution but the prices are through the > roof. > > Can anyone shed some light on the trend? > > -David > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Kieran O'Callaghan kieran(a)tiac.net Cell: (978) 760-1428

Jan. 9, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Meeting this week???

by Henrique

Hey, I finished reading the "Java NIO," which is about Java's new I/O, and "Hadoop," a database which Facebook uses to handle 21Petabytes of information which was originally based on Google's MapReduce papers (Also started reading a book on C#/.NET) and I would happy to make a presentation about the technologies. Happy new year, Henrique "nican" Polido. On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey gang, > > Are we going to have a meeting this week? If so, what topic would people > like to talk about? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 9, 2012

Meeting this week???

by Tim Keller

Hey gang, Are we going to have a meeting this week? If so, what topic would people like to talk about? Thanks, Tim.

Jan. 9, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by E Johnson

Wow. Lot of work. Nice job on the work & the explanation. Yes, I suppose the subject pertains more to a DIY forum than to LUGs, but the discussion ended up here because I wanted to offer it to one of the LUG people if possible, before I offered it to the rest of the world. Glad it worked out, & again I appreciate the extra details. Liz On 7 January 2012 15:23, David P. Connell <davec99(a)charter.net> wrote: > That was the only real issue with the whole thing - getting it apart > blind. It ended up coming apart more like a cell phone than a monitor, > by my experience. Once the stand is off, there is only one screw to > remove, then its the trusty old guitar pick (secret tool of the cell > phone/ipod industry) to remove the rear cover. Not required, but I also > removed the whole screen and electronics modules from the rest of the > plastics by removing 4 more screws - 2 on each side. The real > difficulty, in order to make it look untouched, was that the power > supply electronics and video inputs were under a steel cover that was > fastened down with metalic tape, which I did not have in stock. I > replaced by being careful and using some double-sided clear tape > (Later). I slipped the button array circuit board loose from the frame > and let it dangle carefully. I disconnected the output lines to the > 'inverter/backlight/rest of the display electronics' which are > dangerously exposed across the entire bottom of the screen, but fairly > sturdy (double-sided tape?). This allowed me to move the unneeded parts > well away from dropped tools, etc. Those connections were hard to > disconnect, only because they are well-made and require some wiggling. > I believe I left my mark most evidently there, especially since I > numbered them and didn't bother to clean off the numbers. After doing > one, I believe I could probably complete the process without anyone > knowing I had been in there. Except....I used a totally different brand > of capacitor with higher temperature ratings and the physical sizes were > different as well. I matched the ratings otherwise. I guess I had to > unplug those cable to remove the two boards to properly inspect and work > on them. I guess there were 5 more screws there. And the video cable > connector screws/nuts had to come off as they were holding that side of > the small board into the cage. The heat sink was on the small board and > itself was very small. The caps were all on the power supply board. It > is made to be set up in several configurations. I didn't study whether > that was for different models or just different caps. but I used the > same positions as before, since the holes were left open from my > de-soldering braid. The caps are all tacked down with a solid > silicone-like substance. I used a matching almond silicone that is a > little more rubbery, but still electronically neutral (enough). I > finished cleaning up the dust with my trusty dollar brush, blew out > everything with the canned air, and put it back together. It has been > on ever since I finished and let the silicone dry for a while (hair > dryer helped). It only just now exhibited a little bit of what I would > call a 'hot chip', but I am definitely not a pro (I was an English > Major), since there were a couple of black sections that remained until > I passed the mouse over them. The Samsung I fixed a few months ago did > that occasionally as well, but not very often, and then seem to stop, so > I don't really know. If that is the only thing wrong, I will call it > "useable" or "donateable" but maybe not "saleable". I know, I know, an > English Major who makes up his own words....I enjoyed the time spent > doing the repair, but if I charged what I make at my real job, it might > come out pretty close to what I paid for this Acer 23" that I am using > right now (which is why I bought it even after I repaired the Samsung - > and like Liz and company - you have to have working tools to get your > job done). Sorry for such a long message about hardware and nothing > about Linux - hardware is more my strength these days. > > DaveC

Jan. 7, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by David P. Connell

And just for reference - not to dump on the company (if they even exist anymore!), all the electrolytics I removed from Liz's Acer monitor were from CapXon. And don't ask why I save them, but more than half the ones I have replaced have the same color scheme as these (green/gold writing). Maybe it is a rating (temperature, ramps up and down, etc.) I should know these things....and there are certainly what are considered 'premium' grade capacitors. DaveC On 1/7/2012 10:28 AM, Kieran O'Callaghan wrote: > The funny smell is usually from electrolyte leaking from bad capacitors. > They were Abit ones affected by the so-called Capacitor Plague: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague > There was an interesting industrial espionage story behind that where a > Taiwanese was using an electrolyte formulation that was only partially > recreated from a Japanese manufacturer. Continuing capacitor problems > might be from that same formula still bouncing around, or they might be > plain old heat problems, or simple under-engineering. > > On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 17:33 -0500, E Johnson wrote: >> Dave, >> >> Very glad to know that you managed to resurrect this thing. Meanwhile >> I am very happy with the new one. >> >> Thanks for the feedback on how you repaired this unit. Its twin here >> (not in warranty) is still running fine, but I can imagine I someday >> might have to deal with a similar problem in this one. >> I used to build& instect& troubleshoot small electronic devices, >> mainly little telemetry units for rockets,& mysterious black boxes >> for aircraft carriers. Except now I have no soldering tools any more. >> >> Anyway, mybe the dysfunctional heat sink was what caused the heat >> problem& early demise of the monitor. I now recall a "funny" smell >> right after the first blackout. >> >> Hopefully the heat sink on the remaining one here is glued on well >> enough. If the DH ever turns loose of Monitor 2 long enough, maybe we >> can take a look. >> >> Dave - How much disassembly is required before the heat sink is visible? >> >> Thanks again to everyone here. >> >> Liz J >> >> On 6 January 2012 15:55, David P. Connell<davec99(a)charter.net> wrote: >>> Just for general info: the aforementioned Acer monitor from Liz had >>> several obviously bad caps in the power supply section. They were all >>> from the same manufacturer and the worst were all the same value. As >>> mentioned below, I just replaced all of them while I had it open - well, >>> not the very largest, or the very smallest, nor the solid ones. The big >>> and small ones looked pretty good, with no signs of bulging or leakage >>> and I'm hoping they were made on a different assembly line, since the >>> values were way different from the bad ones. >>> >>> It has been running for about 18 hours, played a full DVD movie, and >>> returns from powers-saving mode. I'm not entirely convinced that one of >>> the IC's is not running at the edge of its specs, since there was some >>> evidence of heat there. Also, on the video output board, there was a >>> poorly adhered heatsink that I reattached with a spec of super glue and >>> a small gob of silicone fixant. It was kind of tipped over onto another >>> chip and not doing its job - probably not an electrical problem. >>> >>> I am glad, and hope for the future, that there is nothing wrong with the >>> part that would normally encompass the inverter, because it is >>> integrated into the LCD itself and runs the full width of the screen. >>> If I were to be very careful, I could restore the bad caps and try to >>> take advantage of Acer's (so far) excellent customer service and >>> warranty service, but the way the monitor was constructed insured a lot >>> of evidence is left of any repair work (special tapes, tricky plugs, etc >>> - no seals though). >>> >>> I have also had to do a capacitor replacement on my otherwise very nice >>> Samsung SyncMaster 226BW. Thank goodness for forums! >>> >>> By the way, I am down to a single machine running MythBuntu/MythTV as >>> far as Linux goes, although I am constantly using various Live CD's for >>> the ease of use, testing, and tools they provide. I also have a couple >>> of Android devices, but haven't dug inside them much except to 'root', etc. >>> >>> Thanks Liz also - the time was enjoyable, finding the parts helped me >>> find some other stuff, and it worked! It goes very nicely with my Acer >>> 23"LCD/LED. >>> >>> DaveC >>> >>> On 1/6/2012 11:51 AM, John Stoffel wrote: >>>> Tim> Funny you say that. We have dozens of those monitors where I >>>> Tim> work and we pick one day a month and for about 2 hours we set up >>>> Tim> a assembly line. One person desolders the bad caps, another >>>> Tim> person solders on new ones, then we have one monitor we use as a >>>> Tim> test rig. We can crank them out at this point. Though we long >>>> Tim> ago figured which 5 caps are the likely culprits and we just >>>> Tim> replace them all, even if the cap looks good. >>>> >>>> I love the Samsung 204Bs, I wish I could get more of them. Nice >>>> 1600x1200 display, pan/tilt/height adjustments, etc. Got any you want >>>> to sell? >>>> >>>> John >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wlug mailing list >>>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> David P. Connell >>> "Watch where you're going; remember where you've been." >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- David P. Connell "Watch where you're going; remember where you've been."

Jan. 7, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by David P. Connell

That was the only real issue with the whole thing - getting it apart blind. It ended up coming apart more like a cell phone than a monitor, by my experience. Once the stand is off, there is only one screw to remove, then its the trusty old guitar pick (secret tool of the cell phone/ipod industry) to remove the rear cover. Not required, but I also removed the whole screen and electronics modules from the rest of the plastics by removing 4 more screws - 2 on each side. The real difficulty, in order to make it look untouched, was that the power supply electronics and video inputs were under a steel cover that was fastened down with metalic tape, which I did not have in stock. I replaced by being careful and using some double-sided clear tape (Later). I slipped the button array circuit board loose from the frame and let it dangle carefully. I disconnected the output lines to the 'inverter/backlight/rest of the display electronics' which are dangerously exposed across the entire bottom of the screen, but fairly sturdy (double-sided tape?). This allowed me to move the unneeded parts well away from dropped tools, etc. Those connections were hard to disconnect, only because they are well-made and require some wiggling. I believe I left my mark most evidently there, especially since I numbered them and didn't bother to clean off the numbers. After doing one, I believe I could probably complete the process without anyone knowing I had been in there. Except....I used a totally different brand of capacitor with higher temperature ratings and the physical sizes were different as well. I matched the ratings otherwise. I guess I had to unplug those cable to remove the two boards to properly inspect and work on them. I guess there were 5 more screws there. And the video cable connector screws/nuts had to come off as they were holding that side of the small board into the cage. The heat sink was on the small board and itself was very small. The caps were all on the power supply board. It is made to be set up in several configurations. I didn't study whether that was for different models or just different caps. but I used the same positions as before, since the holes were left open from my de-soldering braid. The caps are all tacked down with a solid silicone-like substance. I used a matching almond silicone that is a little more rubbery, but still electronically neutral (enough). I finished cleaning up the dust with my trusty dollar brush, blew out everything with the canned air, and put it back together. It has been on ever since I finished and let the silicone dry for a while (hair dryer helped). It only just now exhibited a little bit of what I would call a 'hot chip', but I am definitely not a pro (I was an English Major), since there were a couple of black sections that remained until I passed the mouse over them. The Samsung I fixed a few months ago did that occasionally as well, but not very often, and then seem to stop, so I don't really know. If that is the only thing wrong, I will call it "useable" or "donateable" but maybe not "saleable". I know, I know, an English Major who makes up his own words....I enjoyed the time spent doing the repair, but if I charged what I make at my real job, it might come out pretty close to what I paid for this Acer 23" that I am using right now (which is why I bought it even after I repaired the Samsung - and like Liz and company - you have to have working tools to get your job done). Sorry for such a long message about hardware and nothing about Linux - hardware is more my strength these days. DaveC On 1/6/2012 5:33 PM, E Johnson wrote: > Dave, > > Very glad to know that you managed to resurrect this thing. Meanwhile > I am very happy with the new one. > > Thanks for the feedback on how you repaired this unit. Its twin here > (not in warranty) is still running fine, but I can imagine I someday > might have to deal with a similar problem in this one. > I used to build& instect& troubleshoot small electronic devices, > mainly little telemetry units for rockets,& mysterious black boxes > for aircraft carriers. Except now I have no soldering tools any more. > > Anyway, mybe the dysfunctional heat sink was what caused the heat > problem& early demise of the monitor. I now recall a "funny" smell > right after the first blackout. > > Hopefully the heat sink on the remaining one here is glued on well > enough. If the DH ever turns loose of Monitor 2 long enough, maybe we > can take a look. > > Dave - How much disassembly is required before the heat sink is visible? > > Thanks again to everyone here. > > Liz J > > On 6 January 2012 15:55, David P. Connell<davec99(a)charter.net> wrote: >> Just for general info: the aforementioned Acer monitor from Liz had >> several obviously bad caps in the power supply section. They were all >> from the same manufacturer and the worst were all the same value. As >> mentioned below, I just replaced all of them while I had it open - well, >> not the very largest, or the very smallest, nor the solid ones. The big >> and small ones looked pretty good, with no signs of bulging or leakage >> and I'm hoping they were made on a different assembly line, since the >> values were way different from the bad ones. >> >> It has been running for about 18 hours, played a full DVD movie, and >> returns from powers-saving mode. I'm not entirely convinced that one of >> the IC's is not running at the edge of its specs, since there was some >> evidence of heat there. Also, on the video output board, there was a >> poorly adhered heatsink that I reattached with a spec of super glue and >> a small gob of silicone fixant. It was kind of tipped over onto another >> chip and not doing its job - probably not an electrical problem. >> >> I am glad, and hope for the future, that there is nothing wrong with the >> part that would normally encompass the inverter, because it is >> integrated into the LCD itself and runs the full width of the screen. >> If I were to be very careful, I could restore the bad caps and try to >> take advantage of Acer's (so far) excellent customer service and >> warranty service, but the way the monitor was constructed insured a lot >> of evidence is left of any repair work (special tapes, tricky plugs, etc >> - no seals though). >> >> I have also had to do a capacitor replacement on my otherwise very nice >> Samsung SyncMaster 226BW. Thank goodness for forums! >> >> By the way, I am down to a single machine running MythBuntu/MythTV as >> far as Linux goes, although I am constantly using various Live CD's for >> the ease of use, testing, and tools they provide. I also have a couple >> of Android devices, but haven't dug inside them much except to 'root', etc. >> >> Thanks Liz also - the time was enjoyable, finding the parts helped me >> find some other stuff, and it worked! It goes very nicely with my Acer >> 23"LCD/LED. >> >> DaveC >> >> On 1/6/2012 11:51 AM, John Stoffel wrote: >>> Tim> Funny you say that. We have dozens of those monitors where I >>> Tim> work and we pick one day a month and for about 2 hours we set up >>> Tim> a assembly line. One person desolders the bad caps, another >>> Tim> person solders on new ones, then we have one monitor we use as a >>> Tim> test rig. We can crank them out at this point. Though we long >>> Tim> ago figured which 5 caps are the likely culprits and we just >>> Tim> replace them all, even if the cap looks good. >>> >>> I love the Samsung 204Bs, I wish I could get more of them. Nice >>> 1600x1200 display, pan/tilt/height adjustments, etc. Got any you want >>> to sell? >>> >>> John >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >> >> -- >> David P. Connell >> "Watch where you're going; remember where you've been." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- David P. Connell "Watch where you're going; remember where you've been."

Jan. 7, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Spam

by Henrique

This software is more designed more blogs and web-forums, but it has a huge and growing database of bots and spam and an easy to use API. http://www.stopforumspam.com/ Hope it is of use, Henrique. On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Michael Checca <mchecca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I did a quick google search and got this: http://untroubled.org/spam/ > I haven't looked into it too much, but he has 7z'd spam messages for over > 14 years. That should provide a pretty good range. > > HTH, > Mike > > On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:25:11 -0500, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > If anyone knows a good way to get various types of spam, please let me > > know. I've tried the usual suspects and tactics but I'm not getting > > enough > > (approx 1 message per hour Max). I'm attempting to train a Bayesian > > filter. > > I've got a honeypot email address setup (honeypot(a)openflock.com) if > > anyone > > has a maildir formatted spam folder that has alot in it, please feel free > > to tar it and send it to me. I'm looking for approx 3,000+ emails. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 7, 2012

[SPF:Probably_Forged] Re: Monitor resolution ...

by Robert Krawitz

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 11:45:01 -0500, Frank Sweetser wrote: > > In the past, tv and monitors were two seperate products that shared > some common underlying technology. Nowadays, they're just different > market segments for the same product, differing mostly in the size, > case, and marketing. > > Plus, since most HD content is recorded at a native resolution of > 1080, watching it on a monitor with a physical resolution of 1080 (or > multiple thereof) gives the best results. This is nice if you want to > watch blue ray of HD streaming on you pc. If you have a 1920x1200 monitor, there's no problem: just letterbox the 1920x1080 output. I recently bought a used Dell Precision M6500 laptop; I wouldn't consider an M6600, despite the faster processors, because of the inferior screen. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- http://ProgFree.org Project lead for Gutenprint -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

Jan. 7, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Spam

by Michael Checca

I did a quick google search and got this: http://untroubled.org/spam/ I haven't looked into it too much, but he has 7z'd spam messages for over 14 years. That should provide a pretty good range. HTH, Mike On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:25:11 -0500, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If anyone knows a good way to get various types of spam, please let me > know. I've tried the usual suspects and tactics but I'm not getting > enough > (approx 1 message per hour Max). I'm attempting to train a Bayesian > filter. > I've got a honeypot email address setup (honeypot(a)openflock.com) if > anyone > has a maildir formatted spam folder that has alot in it, please feel free > to tar it and send it to me. I'm looking for approx 3,000+ emails.

Jan. 7, 2012

Spam

by Jason Couture

If anyone knows a good way to get various types of spam, please let me know. I've tried the usual suspects and tactics but I'm not getting enough (approx 1 message per hour Max). I'm attempting to train a Bayesian filter. I've got a honeypot email address setup (honeypot(a)openflock.com) if anyone has a maildir formatted spam folder that has alot in it, please feel free to tar it and send it to me. I'm looking for approx 3,000+ emails.

Jan. 7, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Monitor resolution ...

by Frank Sweetser

In the past, tv and monitors were two seperate products that shared some common underlying technology. Nowadays, they're just different market segments for the same product, differing mostly in the size, case, and marketing. Plus, since most HD content is recorded at a native resolution of 1080, watching it on a monitor with a physical resolution of 1080 (or multiple thereof) gives the best results. This is nice if you want to watch blue ray of HD streaming on you pc. David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> wrote: >I was looking at monitors at WurstBuy and noticed that the maximum >vertical resolution is 1080 lines. > >I then looked at the sites of the various monitor manufacturers and >also >noticed that almost all of their offerings has a maximum vertical >resolution of 1080 lines. You could get higher resolution but the >prices are through the roof. > >Can anyone shed some light on the trend? > >-David >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Jan. 7, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Monitor resolution ...

by Gregory Boyce

The general public has been trained that HD resolutions are the best, and LCD manufacturers get economy of scale by making TVs and monitors at 1080p ) On Jan 7, 2012 11:30 AM, "David Glaser" <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> wrote: > I was looking at monitors at WurstBuy and noticed that the maximum > vertical resolution is 1080 lines. > > I then looked at the sites of the various monitor manufacturers and also > noticed that almost all of their offerings has a maximum vertical > resolution of 1080 lines. You could get higher resolution but the prices > are through the roof. > > Can anyone shed some light on the trend? > > -David > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Jan. 7, 2012

Monitor resolution ...

by David Glaser

I was looking at monitors at WurstBuy and noticed that the maximum vertical resolution is 1080 lines. I then looked at the sites of the various monitor manufacturers and also noticed that almost all of their offerings has a maximum vertical resolution of 1080 lines. You could get higher resolution but the prices are through the roof. Can anyone shed some light on the trend? -David

Jan. 7, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by Kieran O'Callaghan

The funny smell is usually from electrolyte leaking from bad capacitors. They were Abit ones affected by the so-called Capacitor Plague: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague There was an interesting industrial espionage story behind that where a Taiwanese was using an electrolyte formulation that was only partially recreated from a Japanese manufacturer. Continuing capacitor problems might be from that same formula still bouncing around, or they might be plain old heat problems, or simple under-engineering. On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 17:33 -0500, E Johnson wrote: > Dave, > > Very glad to know that you managed to resurrect this thing. Meanwhile > I am very happy with the new one. > > Thanks for the feedback on how you repaired this unit. Its twin here > (not in warranty) is still running fine, but I can imagine I someday > might have to deal with a similar problem in this one. > I used to build & instect & troubleshoot small electronic devices, > mainly little telemetry units for rockets, & mysterious black boxes > for aircraft carriers. Except now I have no soldering tools any more. > > Anyway, mybe the dysfunctional heat sink was what caused the heat > problem & early demise of the monitor. I now recall a "funny" smell > right after the first blackout. > > Hopefully the heat sink on the remaining one here is glued on well > enough. If the DH ever turns loose of Monitor 2 long enough, maybe we > can take a look. > > Dave - How much disassembly is required before the heat sink is visible? > > Thanks again to everyone here. > > Liz J > > On 6 January 2012 15:55, David P. Connell <davec99(a)charter.net> wrote: > > Just for general info: the aforementioned Acer monitor from Liz had > > several obviously bad caps in the power supply section. They were all > > from the same manufacturer and the worst were all the same value. As > > mentioned below, I just replaced all of them while I had it open - well, > > not the very largest, or the very smallest, nor the solid ones. The big > > and small ones looked pretty good, with no signs of bulging or leakage > > and I'm hoping they were made on a different assembly line, since the > > values were way different from the bad ones. > > > > It has been running for about 18 hours, played a full DVD movie, and > > returns from powers-saving mode. I'm not entirely convinced that one of > > the IC's is not running at the edge of its specs, since there was some > > evidence of heat there. Also, on the video output board, there was a > > poorly adhered heatsink that I reattached with a spec of super glue and > > a small gob of silicone fixant. It was kind of tipped over onto another > > chip and not doing its job - probably not an electrical problem. > > > > I am glad, and hope for the future, that there is nothing wrong with the > > part that would normally encompass the inverter, because it is > > integrated into the LCD itself and runs the full width of the screen. > > If I were to be very careful, I could restore the bad caps and try to > > take advantage of Acer's (so far) excellent customer service and > > warranty service, but the way the monitor was constructed insured a lot > > of evidence is left of any repair work (special tapes, tricky plugs, etc > > - no seals though). > > > > I have also had to do a capacitor replacement on my otherwise very nice > > Samsung SyncMaster 226BW. Thank goodness for forums! > > > > By the way, I am down to a single machine running MythBuntu/MythTV as > > far as Linux goes, although I am constantly using various Live CD's for > > the ease of use, testing, and tools they provide. I also have a couple > > of Android devices, but haven't dug inside them much except to 'root', etc. > > > > Thanks Liz also - the time was enjoyable, finding the parts helped me > > find some other stuff, and it worked! It goes very nicely with my Acer > > 23"LCD/LED. > > > > DaveC > > > > On 1/6/2012 11:51 AM, John Stoffel wrote: > >> Tim> Funny you say that. We have dozens of those monitors where I > >> Tim> work and we pick one day a month and for about 2 hours we set up > >> Tim> a assembly line. One person desolders the bad caps, another > >> Tim> person solders on new ones, then we have one monitor we use as a > >> Tim> test rig. We can crank them out at this point. Though we long > >> Tim> ago figured which 5 caps are the likely culprits and we just > >> Tim> replace them all, even if the cap looks good. > >> > >> I love the Samsung 204Bs, I wish I could get more of them. Nice > >> 1600x1200 display, pan/tilt/height adjustments, etc. Got any you want > >> to sell? > >> > >> John > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wlug mailing list > >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > > > > > > -- > > David P. Connell > > "Watch where you're going; remember where you've been." > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Kieran O'Callaghan kieran(a)tiac.net Cell: (978) 760-1428

Jan. 7, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by E Johnson

Dave, Very glad to know that you managed to resurrect this thing. Meanwhile I am very happy with the new one. Thanks for the feedback on how you repaired this unit. Its twin here (not in warranty) is still running fine, but I can imagine I someday might have to deal with a similar problem in this one. I used to build & instect & troubleshoot small electronic devices, mainly little telemetry units for rockets, & mysterious black boxes for aircraft carriers. Except now I have no soldering tools any more. Anyway, mybe the dysfunctional heat sink was what caused the heat problem & early demise of the monitor. I now recall a "funny" smell right after the first blackout. Hopefully the heat sink on the remaining one here is glued on well enough. If the DH ever turns loose of Monitor 2 long enough, maybe we can take a look. Dave - How much disassembly is required before the heat sink is visible? Thanks again to everyone here. Liz J On 6 January 2012 15:55, David P. Connell <davec99(a)charter.net> wrote: > Just for general info: the aforementioned Acer monitor from Liz had > several obviously bad caps in the power supply section. They were all > from the same manufacturer and the worst were all the same value. As > mentioned below, I just replaced all of them while I had it open - well, > not the very largest, or the very smallest, nor the solid ones. The big > and small ones looked pretty good, with no signs of bulging or leakage > and I'm hoping they were made on a different assembly line, since the > values were way different from the bad ones. > > It has been running for about 18 hours, played a full DVD movie, and > returns from powers-saving mode. I'm not entirely convinced that one of > the IC's is not running at the edge of its specs, since there was some > evidence of heat there. Also, on the video output board, there was a > poorly adhered heatsink that I reattached with a spec of super glue and > a small gob of silicone fixant. It was kind of tipped over onto another > chip and not doing its job - probably not an electrical problem. > > I am glad, and hope for the future, that there is nothing wrong with the > part that would normally encompass the inverter, because it is > integrated into the LCD itself and runs the full width of the screen. > If I were to be very careful, I could restore the bad caps and try to > take advantage of Acer's (so far) excellent customer service and > warranty service, but the way the monitor was constructed insured a lot > of evidence is left of any repair work (special tapes, tricky plugs, etc > - no seals though). > > I have also had to do a capacitor replacement on my otherwise very nice > Samsung SyncMaster 226BW. Thank goodness for forums! > > By the way, I am down to a single machine running MythBuntu/MythTV as > far as Linux goes, although I am constantly using various Live CD's for > the ease of use, testing, and tools they provide. I also have a couple > of Android devices, but haven't dug inside them much except to 'root', etc. > > Thanks Liz also - the time was enjoyable, finding the parts helped me > find some other stuff, and it worked! It goes very nicely with my Acer > 23"LCD/LED. > > DaveC > > On 1/6/2012 11:51 AM, John Stoffel wrote: >> Tim> Funny you say that. We have dozens of those monitors where I >> Tim> work and we pick one day a month and for about 2 hours we set up >> Tim> a assembly line. One person desolders the bad caps, another >> Tim> person solders on new ones, then we have one monitor we use as a >> Tim> test rig. We can crank them out at this point. Though we long >> Tim> ago figured which 5 caps are the likely culprits and we just >> Tim> replace them all, even if the cap looks good. >> >> I love the Samsung 204Bs, I wish I could get more of them. Nice >> 1600x1200 display, pan/tilt/height adjustments, etc. Got any you want >> to sell? >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > -- > David P. Connell > "Watch where you're going; remember where you've been." > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 6, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by David P. Connell

Just for general info: the aforementioned Acer monitor from Liz had several obviously bad caps in the power supply section. They were all from the same manufacturer and the worst were all the same value. As mentioned below, I just replaced all of them while I had it open - well, not the very largest, or the very smallest, nor the solid ones. The big and small ones looked pretty good, with no signs of bulging or leakage and I'm hoping they were made on a different assembly line, since the values were way different from the bad ones. It has been running for about 18 hours, played a full DVD movie, and returns from powers-saving mode. I'm not entirely convinced that one of the IC's is not running at the edge of its specs, since there was some evidence of heat there. Also, on the video output board, there was a poorly adhered heatsink that I reattached with a spec of super glue and a small gob of silicone fixant. It was kind of tipped over onto another chip and not doing its job - probably not an electrical problem. I am glad, and hope for the future, that there is nothing wrong with the part that would normally encompass the inverter, because it is integrated into the LCD itself and runs the full width of the screen. If I were to be very careful, I could restore the bad caps and try to take advantage of Acer's (so far) excellent customer service and warranty service, but the way the monitor was constructed insured a lot of evidence is left of any repair work (special tapes, tricky plugs, etc - no seals though). I have also had to do a capacitor replacement on my otherwise very nice Samsung SyncMaster 226BW. Thank goodness for forums! By the way, I am down to a single machine running MythBuntu/MythTV as far as Linux goes, although I am constantly using various Live CD's for the ease of use, testing, and tools they provide. I also have a couple of Android devices, but haven't dug inside them much except to 'root', etc. Thanks Liz also - the time was enjoyable, finding the parts helped me find some other stuff, and it worked! It goes very nicely with my Acer 23"LCD/LED. DaveC On 1/6/2012 11:51 AM, John Stoffel wrote: > Tim> Funny you say that. We have dozens of those monitors where I > Tim> work and we pick one day a month and for about 2 hours we set up > Tim> a assembly line. One person desolders the bad caps, another > Tim> person solders on new ones, then we have one monitor we use as a > Tim> test rig. We can crank them out at this point. Though we long > Tim> ago figured which 5 caps are the likely culprits and we just > Tim> replace them all, even if the cap looks good. > > I love the Samsung 204Bs, I wish I could get more of them. Nice > 1600x1200 display, pan/tilt/height adjustments, etc. Got any you want > to sell? > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- David P. Connell "Watch where you're going; remember where you've been."

Jan. 6, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by John Stoffel

Tim> Funny you say that. We have dozens of those monitors where I Tim> work and we pick one day a month and for about 2 hours we set up Tim> a assembly line. One person desolders the bad caps, another Tim> person solders on new ones, then we have one monitor we use as a Tim> test rig. We can crank them out at this point. Though we long Tim> ago figured which 5 caps are the likely culprits and we just Tim> replace them all, even if the cap looks good. I love the Samsung 204Bs, I wish I could get more of them. Nice 1600x1200 display, pan/tilt/height adjustments, etc. Got any you want to sell? John

Jan. 6, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by Tim Keller

John, Funny you say that. We have dozens of those monitors where I work and we pick one day a month and for about 2 hours we set up a assembly line. One person desolders the bad caps, another person solders on new ones, then we have one monitor we use as a test rig. We can crank them out at this point. Though we long ago figured which 5 caps are the likely culprits and we just replace them all, even if the cap looks good. Tim. On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:00 AM, "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Liz, > > Another thing to look for when you open the LCD is whether you have > bad caps (capacitors) on there. I've fixed over a dozen Samsung 204B > monitors by just replacing a bunch of caps. Look for bulged ends and > then replace with the same or higher spec caps and you might be all > set. > > Good luck! > John > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 6, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by E Johnson

Thanks John & Jason. OK. I think someone has this on their wish list, so I'll open it up, dust it off & inspect it, & will save all of your instructions for the potential new owner. Will keep these instructions anyway, since the sick one has a twin, which might be just out of warranty now (not buying another new one!). This is a very good group here, & I really appreciate the detailed support & the thought, time and effort put into the responses. Really stellar. Thanks, guys! Liz On 5 January 2012 11:04, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Aye, and the back light working and then going out indeed points to a cap. A > bad coil on the inverter would give no light at all. > > On Jan 5, 2012 11:02 AM, "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: >> >> Liz, >> >> Another thing to look for when you open the LCD is whether you have >> bad caps (capacitors) on there. I've fixed over a dozen Samsung 204B >> monitors by just replacing a bunch of caps. Look for bulged ends and >> then replace with the same or higher spec caps and you might be all >> set. >> >> Good luck! >> John

Jan. 5, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by Jason Couture

Aye, and the back light working and then going out indeed points to a cap. A bad coil on the inverter would give no light at all. On Jan 5, 2012 11:02 AM, "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Liz, > > Another thing to look for when you open the LCD is whether you have > bad caps (capacitors) on there. I've fixed over a dozen Samsung 204B > monitors by just replacing a bunch of caps. Look for bulged ends and > then replace with the same or higher spec caps and you might be all > set. > > Good luck! > John > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 5, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by John Stoffel

Liz, Another thing to look for when you open the LCD is whether you have bad caps (capacitors) on there. I've fixed over a dozen Samsung 204B monitors by just replacing a bunch of caps. Look for bulged ends and then replace with the same or higher spec caps and you might be all set. Good luck! John --

Jan. 5, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by E Johnson

I'll plug it back in tomorrow morning & check that. Will report back. Thanks again very much! Liz On 5 January 2012 00:23, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > when the screen is black, in a well lit room, see if you can make out an > image on the screen. It will be very hard to see. If it is there, then its > either the inverter or the back light. (90% of the time its the inverter, > the back light is part of the panel) > > On Jan 5, 2012 12:18 AM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Okay, thanks very much Jason! >> >> The symptoms seem similar to what you are describing. Power works, can >> see the initial screen with "Acer" logo, can see for a few seconds the >> desktop & windows on it, which then fades & screen appears to go >> black. >> >> I will open it up & find the part. While I am there, I will dust off >> everything, & inspect. Then if I need further direction I will be >> back. I used to build & inspect small elex units, back in the day. It >> doesn't sound difficult, as long as it doesn't require diagnostic >> tools that we don't have. >> >> But as I said, I replaced the monitor, so if someone else needs a >> monitor & wants to attempt a repair, e-mail me & it can be yours. >> >> Thanks very much, >> Liz >> >> >> >> On 4 January 2012 23:56, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > You can give me a call sometime if you like, and I can tell you what you >> > need to know. Its a bit much to type out. If you're interested reply >> > directly to me and ill give you my number. >> > >> > On Jan 4, 2012 11:54 PM, "Jason Couture" <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> If you open the casing, you'll find 1 to 4, 2 wire electrical >> >> connectors. >> >> (Usually two). The wires are usually pink and white, but can be >> >> different. >> >> They are the power wires for the back light, which is ccfl? I think? >> >> They >> >> require a high voltage to operate (30,000v) the inverter changes the >> >> internal voltage (5-12v) to the required voltage. If its burnt out, the >> >> back >> >> light may not work at all, or may work at first and then turn off. If >> >> you >> >> look carefully the picture will still be on the screen but almost >> >> impossible >> >> to see. Attached are some pictures of the wires from a lamp I removed >> >> from >> >> an Acer LCD panel. Of all the ones I've taken apart this is more or >> >> less >> >> universal. The inverter is usually highly specific to the monitor. >> >> Easiest >> >> way to find one is to take the old one out and get the model number off >> >> of >> >> it. >> >> >> >> On Jan 4, 2012 11:40 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I bought a new monitor. We cannot be down, this was being used for a >> >>> project. This is now a (non-working) retired spare. >> >>> >> >>> Can you tell us more about whatever inverter it might need, or how to >> >>> diagnose? >> >>> >> >>> I would like to hear how to fix these, in case Monitor 2 (identical >> >>> twin) goes down. Identical twin was actually bought earlier & is 5 >> >>> seconds out of warranty, but still rock-solid. But if it dies we will >> >>> not be happy campers. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> Liz >> >>> >> >>> On 4 January 2012 23:22, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > Sounds like the inverter, did you see if they were available? There >> >>> > usually >> >>> > fairly easy to change. >> >>> > >> >>> > On Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking >> >>> >> out >> >>> >> 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still >> >>> >> doing just fine!). >> >>> >> >> >>> >> This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI >> >>> >> or >> >>> >> VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, >> >>> >> at >> >>> >> least I always enjoyed it. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Specs: >> >>> >> Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, >> >>> >> (WSXGA+), >> >>> >> 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) >> >>> >> >> >>> >> This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but >> >>> >> flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it >> >>> >> (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in >> >>> >> Texas), >> >>> >> who will fix it & return within a few weeks. >> >>> >> Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper >> >>> >> than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, >> >>> >> the >> >>> >> only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the >> >>> >> thing. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm >> >>> >> Park. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Liz J >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> Wlug mailing list >> >>> >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >>> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > Wlug mailing list >> >>> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >>> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Wlug mailing list >> >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 5, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by Jason Couture

when the screen is black, in a well lit room, see if you can make out an image on the screen. It will be very hard to see. If it is there, then its either the inverter or the back light. (90% of the time its the inverter, the back light is part of the panel) On Jan 5, 2012 12:18 AM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Okay, thanks very much Jason! > > The symptoms seem similar to what you are describing. Power works, can > see the initial screen with "Acer" logo, can see for a few seconds the > desktop & windows on it, which then fades & screen appears to go > black. > > I will open it up & find the part. While I am there, I will dust off > everything, & inspect. Then if I need further direction I will be > back. I used to build & inspect small elex units, back in the day. It > doesn't sound difficult, as long as it doesn't require diagnostic > tools that we don't have. > > But as I said, I replaced the monitor, so if someone else needs a > monitor & wants to attempt a repair, e-mail me & it can be yours. > > Thanks very much, > Liz > > > > On 4 January 2012 23:56, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > You can give me a call sometime if you like, and I can tell you what you > > need to know. Its a bit much to type out. If you're interested reply > > directly to me and ill give you my number. > > > > On Jan 4, 2012 11:54 PM, "Jason Couture" <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> If you open the casing, you'll find 1 to 4, 2 wire electrical > connectors. > >> (Usually two). The wires are usually pink and white, but can be > different. > >> They are the power wires for the back light, which is ccfl? I think? > They > >> require a high voltage to operate (30,000v) the inverter changes the > >> internal voltage (5-12v) to the required voltage. If its burnt out, the > back > >> light may not work at all, or may work at first and then turn off. If > you > >> look carefully the picture will still be on the screen but almost > impossible > >> to see. Attached are some pictures of the wires from a lamp I removed > from > >> an Acer LCD panel. Of all the ones I've taken apart this is more or less > >> universal. The inverter is usually highly specific to the monitor. > Easiest > >> way to find one is to take the old one out and get the model number off > of > >> it. > >> > >> On Jan 4, 2012 11:40 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I bought a new monitor. We cannot be down, this was being used for a > >>> project. This is now a (non-working) retired spare. > >>> > >>> Can you tell us more about whatever inverter it might need, or how to > >>> diagnose? > >>> > >>> I would like to hear how to fix these, in case Monitor 2 (identical > >>> twin) goes down. Identical twin was actually bought earlier & is 5 > >>> seconds out of warranty, but still rock-solid. But if it dies we will > >>> not be happy campers. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Liz > >>> > >>> On 4 January 2012 23:22, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Sounds like the inverter, did you see if they were available? There > >>> > usually > >>> > fairly easy to change. > >>> > > >>> > On Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking > out > >>> >> 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still > >>> >> doing just fine!). > >>> >> > >>> >> This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI > or > >>> >> VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, at > >>> >> least I always enjoyed it. > >>> >> > >>> >> Specs: > >>> >> Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, (WSXGA+), > >>> >> 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) > >>> >> > >>> >> This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but > >>> >> flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it > >>> >> (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in > Texas), > >>> >> who will fix it & return within a few weeks. > >>> >> Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper > >>> >> than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, the > >>> >> only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. > >>> >> > >>> >> Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the > >>> >> thing. > >>> >> > >>> >> E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. > >>> >> > >>> >> Liz J > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> Wlug mailing list > >>> >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Wlug mailing list > >>> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >>> > > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wlug mailing list > >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 5, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by E Johnson

Okay, thanks very much Jason! The symptoms seem similar to what you are describing. Power works, can see the initial screen with "Acer" logo, can see for a few seconds the desktop & windows on it, which then fades & screen appears to go black. I will open it up & find the part. While I am there, I will dust off everything, & inspect. Then if I need further direction I will be back. I used to build & inspect small elex units, back in the day. It doesn't sound difficult, as long as it doesn't require diagnostic tools that we don't have. But as I said, I replaced the monitor, so if someone else needs a monitor & wants to attempt a repair, e-mail me & it can be yours. Thanks very much, Liz On 4 January 2012 23:56, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You can give me a call sometime if you like, and I can tell you what you > need to know. Its a bit much to type out. If you're interested reply > directly to me and ill give you my number. > > On Jan 4, 2012 11:54 PM, "Jason Couture" <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> If you open the casing, you'll find 1 to 4, 2 wire electrical connectors. >> (Usually two). The wires are usually pink and white, but can be different. >> They are the power wires for the back light, which is ccfl? I think? They >> require a high voltage to operate (30,000v) the inverter changes the >> internal voltage (5-12v) to the required voltage. If its burnt out, the back >> light may not work at all, or may work at first and then turn off. If you >> look carefully the picture will still be on the screen but almost impossible >> to see. Attached are some pictures of the wires from a lamp I removed from >> an Acer LCD panel. Of all the ones I've taken apart this is more or less >> universal. The inverter is usually highly specific to the monitor. Easiest >> way to find one is to take the old one out and get the model number off of >> it. >> >> On Jan 4, 2012 11:40 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I bought a new monitor. We cannot be down, this was being used for a >>> project. This is now a (non-working) retired spare. >>> >>> Can you tell us more about whatever inverter it might need, or how to >>> diagnose? >>> >>> I would like to hear how to fix these, in case Monitor 2 (identical >>> twin) goes down. Identical twin was actually bought earlier & is 5 >>> seconds out of warranty, but still rock-solid. But if it dies we will >>> not be happy campers. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Liz >>> >>> On 4 January 2012 23:22, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Sounds like the inverter, did you see if they were available? There >>> > usually >>> > fairly easy to change. >>> > >>> > On Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking out >>> >> 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still >>> >> doing just fine!). >>> >> >>> >> This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI or >>> >> VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, at >>> >> least I always enjoyed it. >>> >> >>> >> Specs: >>> >> Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, (WSXGA+), >>> >> 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) >>> >> >>> >> This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but >>> >> flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it >>> >> (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in Texas), >>> >> who will fix it & return within a few weeks. >>> >> Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper >>> >> than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, the >>> >> only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. >>> >> >>> >> Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the >>> >> thing. >>> >> >>> >> E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. >>> >> >>> >> Liz J >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Wlug mailing list >>> >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Wlug mailing list >>> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 5, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by Jason Couture

You can give me a call sometime if you like, and I can tell you what you need to know. Its a bit much to type out. If you're interested reply directly to me and ill give you my number. On Jan 4, 2012 11:54 PM, "Jason Couture" <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If you open the casing, you'll find 1 to 4, 2 wire electrical connectors. > (Usually two). The wires are usually pink and white, but can be different. > They are the power wires for the back light, which is ccfl? I think? They > require a high voltage to operate (30,000v) the inverter changes the > internal voltage (5-12v) to the required voltage. If its burnt out, the > back light may not work at all, or may work at first and then turn off. If > you look carefully the picture will still be on the screen but almost > impossible to see. Attached are some pictures of the wires from a lamp I > removed from an Acer LCD panel. Of all the ones I've taken apart this is > more or less universal. The inverter is usually highly specific to the > monitor. Easiest way to find one is to take the old one out and get the > model number off of it. > On Jan 4, 2012 11:40 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I bought a new monitor. We cannot be down, this was being used for a >> project. This is now a (non-working) retired spare. >> >> Can you tell us more about whatever inverter it might need, or how to >> diagnose? >> >> I would like to hear how to fix these, in case Monitor 2 (identical >> twin) goes down. Identical twin was actually bought earlier & is 5 >> seconds out of warranty, but still rock-solid. But if it dies we will >> not be happy campers. >> >> Thanks, >> Liz >> >> On 4 January 2012 23:22, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Sounds like the inverter, did you see if they were available? There >> usually >> > fairly easy to change. >> > >> > On Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking out >> >> 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still >> >> doing just fine!). >> >> >> >> This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI or >> >> VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, at >> >> least I always enjoyed it. >> >> >> >> Specs: >> >> Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, (WSXGA+), >> >> 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) >> >> >> >> This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but >> >> flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it >> >> (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in Texas), >> >> who will fix it & return within a few weeks. >> >> Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper >> >> than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, the >> >> only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. >> >> >> >> Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the >> thing. >> >> >> >> E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. >> >> >> >> Liz J >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wlug mailing list >> >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >

Jan. 5, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by E Johnson

I bought a new monitor. We cannot be down, this was being used for a project. This is now a (non-working) retired spare. Can you tell us more about whatever inverter it might need, or how to diagnose? I would like to hear how to fix these, in case Monitor 2 (identical twin) goes down. Identical twin was actually bought earlier & is 5 seconds out of warranty, but still rock-solid. But if it dies we will not be happy campers. Thanks, Liz On 4 January 2012 23:22, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sounds like the inverter, did you see if they were available? There usually > fairly easy to change. > > On Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking out >> 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still >> doing just fine!). >> >> This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI or >> VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, at >> least I always enjoyed it. >> >> Specs: >> Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, (WSXGA+), >> 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) >> >> This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but >> flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it >> (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in Texas), >> who will fix it & return within a few weeks. >> Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper >> than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, the >> only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. >> >> Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the thing. >> >> E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. >> >> Liz J >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 5, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by Jason Couture

Sounds like the inverter, did you see if they were available? There usually fairly easy to change. On Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking out > 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still > doing just fine!). > > This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI or > VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, at > least I always enjoyed it. > > Specs: > Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, (WSXGA+), > 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) > > This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but > flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it > (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in Texas), > who will fix it & return within a few weeks. > Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper > than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, the > only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. > > Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the thing. > > E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. > > Liz J > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 5, 2012

Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?

by E Johnson

Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking out 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still doing just fine!). This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI or VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, at least I always enjoyed it. Specs: Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, (WSXGA+), 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in Texas), who will fix it & return within a few weeks. Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, the only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the thing. E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. Liz J

Jan. 5, 2012

WLUG meeting? Yes! Wed Dec 14 7:00 PM

by Chuck Anderson

Yes, meeting is still on for tomorrow. XMonad sounds like a fine talk if you can make it for tomorrow that would be great! Thanks, Chuck On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 03:51:45PM -0500, Henrique wrote: > Hey! > > Chuck invited me to make a talk on XMonad, which I find it is a pretty cool > window manager that can run on top of GNOME, or by itself. > I said I could do it, but I am not sure if I could make a talk about it for > an hour. I have not heard anything since. > I am not sure if we are having the meeting. > > Thanks, > Henrique. > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hey Gang, > > > > Are we having a meeting this month? I would *think* it would be on the > > 14th... > > > > Thanks, > > Tim.

Dec. 13, 2011

Re: [Wlug] WLUG meeting?

by Henrique

Hey! Chuck invited me to make a talk on XMonad, which I find it is a pretty cool window manager that can run on top of GNOME, or by itself. I said I could do it, but I am not sure if I could make a talk about it for an hour. I have not heard anything since. I am not sure if we are having the meeting. Thanks, Henrique. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Are we having a meeting this month? I would *think* it would be on the > 14th... > > Thanks, > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Dec. 13, 2011

WLUG meeting?

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Are we having a meeting this month? I would *think* it would be on the 14th... Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Dec. 13, 2011

OPENING - Sr Software Engineer - C/Linux - perm in Cambridge area

by John Spencer

We have an opening for a Sr Software Engineer. This is a perm position in the Cambridge area for a sharp engineer with 7-10+ yrs of experience. I have included some info below. In the spirit of the Holiday Season, the season of giving, if you are not interested in this position and even if you don't know anyone looking, please share this information with your network, as more than likely someone in your network knows someone that could use help finding a new position. Sr Software Engineer We are looking for a well rounded Sr Software Engineer that is interested in working in a collaborative environment on a variety of projects. Must have strong C programming skills. C++ and Java are a plus Must have strong Linux background and experience Systems software experience is needed Ability to come up to speed quickly and desire to work on a variety of projects and technology Experience working in an Agile environment is a plus Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com <www.connectedsp.com%20%20%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

Dec. 5, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by Mike Peckar

>One more question; We have an Asus RT-N16 wireless router (that's connected to the Verizon modem) that I DD-WRT'd a couple of years ago, and I like it. If I go with Charter, can I continue to use this or do I have to get something else? I have a DD-WRT'd router on a charter line and it works great. In the past we had line issues on hot days, and it took several service calls to resolve, but it's been stable going on 3 yrs now. It's a Netgear WNR3500U - got it for $30 on ebay - not bad for a gigabit N router and now SNMP for stats and scheduled outages for my kid's devices. Its wireless reception/output is so-so, though, but we live in a small house. We still have our original Surfboard - it could be 8 years old. Download: ~15Mbps; Upload ~2Mbps Mike

Dec. 2, 2011

[WPI] Linux Installfest tomorrow

by Henrique

Hello!, Just a reminder that the Linux Installfest is tomorrow at Worcester Polytechnic Institute. The event is geared towards helping WPI students get started with Linux, but anyone is welcome to join, help, or just chat. What: Linux Installfest Where: WPI, Kaven Hall 202<http://www.wpi.edu/Academics/ATC/Facilities/Classrooms/kh202.html>, (google maps<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=42.27484,-71.805884&daddr=…> ) When: November 29, 2011, 6pm to 11pm If you have any questions, feel free to send me an e-mail. Thank you, Henrique "nican" Polido.

Nov. 29, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by Steven Greenberg

Since Charter's modem is intended to connect to an Ethernet network and you wireless router is intended to connect to an ethernet network, then all should work fine together. That is the benefit of a standard. /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: http://www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

Nov. 25, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by E Johnson

I don't see why you couldn't use the same router with a different modem. Once the modem is provisioned it should see the router, and vice-versa. I do recommend getting your own modem, though. I like the Motorola SB6120. There's a newer, smaller one (the SB6125, I think) but people have been complaining about it getting hot, and about a lot of dropouts. This one (the SB6125) has been very solid since Charter took care of their line-tuning issue out beyond our pole. It's really nice to be able to see your own diagnostics pages in the modem, as well as having control of the router. My router's MAC address shows up on one of the diagnostics pages of this modem. One issue on the SB6120 --the light that was supposed to blink when data is being served is not correctly functional under the firmware that the ISPs have been serving in the last year or so. The ISPs blame Motorola, and Motorola blames the ISPs. The bug is, this data light blinks about 3x/second, instead of just blinking while data is actually moving. The blue lights are a llittle bright. One of the lights on this thing is amber, if a slower internet speed is being served, but it's blue if you're working with the DOCSYS3 speeds. This can be a handy little indicator. This unit is now less than $80.00 online, which pays for itself in 14 months, by not having to pay Charter $5/mo. for rental of one of their units. When I ordered new service at this address 18 months ago, the Charter sales rep promised me a SB6120, but when the tech came out, he said he didn't have any, & gave me one of their Ubees. I ordered that Surfboard the same day. Another thing about Charter -- when you order new service, it is possible (easy) to get the sales rep. to waive the installation fee. Just ask --they always NEED new customers. Get his/her employee number in case Billing "forgets" & adds an installation charge to the 1st month's bill. Billing has been very good about making adjustments. They rebate us per diem for down time or partial-mlfunction time (which is rare these days) and if they "accidently" charge us for a tech call which was due to a problem not our fault, they remove it immediately from the bill. Just carefully read the bill & don't hesitate to call Billing if there's any question. Pretty happy, generally. Good luck, Liz J On 24 November 2011 15:36, Chuck Noyes <vze284qe(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > Hi Again, > > Thanks for all the replies! It's a big help to get other people's views > about this. It looks like people are generally > happy with Charter. In the past, I've heard horror stories about them, but > it appears they've improved their product. > > One more question; We have an Asus RT-N16 wireless router (that's > connected to the Verizon modem) > that I DD-WRT'd a couple of years ago, and I like it. If I go with > Charter, can I continue to use this or do > I have to get something else? > > Thanks again for all the replies, > -Chuck > > > > On Nov 23, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Chuck Noyes wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - > it's been incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support > > has been no help. So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). > I'd prefer a local one, but at this point, I'm not > > fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We have Charter as the cable > TV provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. > > > > I don't want to start a "religious war" - I'm just looking for > information so I can make an informed decision. > > > > Thanks, > > -Chuck > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by Chuck Noyes

Hi Again, Thanks for all the replies! It's a big help to get other people's views about this. It looks like people are generally happy with Charter. In the past, I've heard horror stories about them, but it appears they've improved their product. One more question; We have an Asus RT-N16 wireless router (that's connected to the Verizon modem) that I DD-WRT'd a couple of years ago, and I like it. If I go with Charter, can I continue to use this or do I have to get something else? Thanks again for all the replies, -Chuck On Nov 23, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Chuck Noyes wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - it's been incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support > has been no help. So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). I'd prefer a local one, but at this point, I'm not > fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We have Charter as the cable TV provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. > > I don't want to start a "religious war" - I'm just looking for information so I can make an informed decision. > > Thanks, > -Chuck > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by John Stoffel

Chuck> I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL Chuck> service - it's been incredibly slow for the last couple of Chuck> months. Customer support has been no help. So, I'm curious what Chuck> ISP people like (and don't like). I'd prefer a local one, but Chuck> at this point, I'm not fussy. I'm looking for something Chuck> reliable. We have Charter as the cable TV provider. I don't Chuck> know if I want to go that route. I've had Charter at home in Boylston for about 12 years now, and it's been rock solid. We've now got Phone on there as well and it's better than our old verizon setup, except when the power goes out, but that's my fault for not putting a land line phone onto the system where it's easily found. Not a biggee overall since the wife and I both have Cells. I do wish I could play off Charter vs. Verizon FioS but it's not *quite* near enough to my house to get FiOS. Bummers. In general, I recommend that you buy your own cable router, just the cost per-month they charge pays foritself failry quickly. But honestly, Charter has been just fine for us. John

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by Steven Greenberg

I am happy with Charter. I use their Modem, but my own wireless router. I can't get Verizon DSL out here in the boondocks, so once I went with Charter for the internet, I did the phone with them, too. /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: http://www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by Jason Couture

If you do decide to get charter make sure you get one of the Motorola surfboards. I've had alot of problems with their other modems. If a tech is installing it just ask for it and he'll go to his truck and grab one. On Nov 23, 2011 9:52 PM, "Aaron Haviland" <orion(a)parsed.net> wrote: > Chuck Noyes wrote, on Nov 23, 2011 at 18:13 EST: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - > it's been > > incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support has been > no help. > > So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). I'd prefer a > local one, but > > at this point, I'm not fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We > have Charter > > as the cable TV provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. > > I cannot get DSL where I live (too rural), and my town is contracted with > Charter for > Cable, so my options are limited here, but when I lived in Somerville a > few years > back, I had service from Cyberonic. I liked them mostly because they were > local. > They're in Worcester, and I actually signed up with them in-person. Got a > free mug. > But that was years ago... > > Where I live now has had Charter for about 9 years now, and we've even had > the same > (rented) SB4100 cable modem the whole time. It's only DOCSYS 1.1, but we > get the > speeds we're paying for, and the old hardware works fine, so we don't > complain (nor > have we had to). I haven't had to deal with Support in years. > > -- > Aaron Haviland > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFOzbETNL5skATtxLERAnWwAKC8Xr4rPT1dweYEyML2YDATEshfCQCg2hm4 > AjMpAqf8X5CKfPOECt+ssug= > =PGY/ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by Aaron Haviland

Chuck Noyes wrote, on Nov 23, 2011 at 18:13 EST: > > Hi All, > > I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - it's been > incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support has been no help. > So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). I'd prefer a local one, but > at this point, I'm not fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We have Charter > as the cable TV provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. I cannot get DSL where I live (too rural), and my town is contracted with Charter for Cable, so my options are limited here, but when I lived in Somerville a few years back, I had service from Cyberonic. I liked them mostly because they were local. They're in Worcester, and I actually signed up with them in-person. Got a free mug. But that was years ago... Where I live now has had Charter for about 9 years now, and we've even had the same (rented) SB4100 cable modem the whole time. It's only DOCSYS 1.1, but we get the speeds we're paying for, and the old hardware works fine, so we don't complain (nor have we had to). I haven't had to deal with Support in years. -- Aaron Haviland

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by E Johnson

PS - The landlady downstairs has Charter's lowest (slowest) tier of internet service, with a wireless modem/router (some kind of little white Netgear box) that they supply. It's usually okay on a wired connection, but I've tested the wireless on it, & while it serves webpages okay (usually), it's really, really slow downloading anything. Even sitting 4 feet away from the box, with nothing but air in between. Maybe she got a bad unit, but I'd recommend avoiding that setup. The other thing to watch out for if you rent a modem from the company (any company) is to make sure they give you a brand-new unit, and not some half-dead unit they just swapped out of someone else's house. EJ On 23 November 2011 19:15, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've had very good success with Charter over 9 or 10 years or service by > them. When I lived at Newton Square it took some time (many moons) to > convincve their techs that the draggy internet was because of a > suspersaturated node, but they regularly gave me rebates for poor service & > finally did get it fixed & working well. They finally split the node to > relieve the traffic congestion in that neighborhood. > > I think a lot has changed with this Co. since they got the DOCSYS3 up & > running here. It's been a couple of years here (in Worcester). I think that > has made a big difference. Have the 25-down / 3-up here now. Service at > this place (you guys were here for the BBQ) has generally been very smooth > since June 2010 when we moved in. We had to get techs out here a couple of > time just after they replaced the drops this past summer --they needed to > tune (something), then we had torrential rain that seemed to be getting > iinto something, somewhere nearby. They did note lots of packet loss "at > the drop" which meant it was not in my house, my lines or my equipment, so > the tech calls were all zero-cost. > > You might like to have your own modem & router, which I have, or maybe > not. I can discuss what equipment I am running here if necessary, with > which I am very satisfied. I buy my own router & modem so that I can run my > own software on it & see my own diagnostics pages. > > We do not experience a slowdown in the evenings or on rainy-day weekends > here. Speed is very good 99.9% of the time. > > The only Cons: A couple of times I had to call Cust. Service to explain > that the service calls they charged me for were not "my fault". But they > immediately dropped the charges that had billed me for. So this is not that > much of a Con except it did cost me some phone-call time. Just keep an eye > on your bill & don't auto-pay. > > Some percentage of their phone support people (including Tech) is > outsourced to overseas locations. Some of the accents are a bit difficult > to understand. These techs have a hard time disuccing anything that is not > in their canned script, so if the call is something they can't handle, I > just ask for a "Level 2 Tech" or a "soup Tech" (supervisor) & usually I end > up being transferred to someone in the US. > Again, this is not much of a Con. > > I'm generally very pleased with the service. > > You'd be welcome to drop by with a laptop, or & check out what the service > is like here, or just test the service using my spare desktop (Debian > Squeeze which might become Mint at any moment). Or just PM me if you would > like a demo. > > HTH, > Liz J > > > > On 23 November 2011 18:13, Chuck Noyes <vze284qe(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >> >> Hi All, >> >> I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - >> it's been incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support >> has been no help. So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). >> I'd prefer a local one, but at this point, I'm not >> fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We have Charter as the cable >> TV provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. >> >> I don't want to start a "religious war" - I'm just looking for >> information so I can make an informed decision. >> >> Thanks, >> -Chuck >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider

by E Johnson

I've had very good success with Charter over 9 or 10 years or service by them. When I lived at Newton Square it took some time (many moons) to convincve their techs that the draggy internet was because of a suspersaturated node, but they regularly gave me rebates for poor service & finally did get it fixed & working well. They finally split the node to relieve the traffic congestion in that neighborhood. I think a lot has changed with this Co. since they got the DOCSYS3 up & running here. It's been a couple of years here (in Worcester). I think that has made a big difference. Have the 25-down / 3-up here now. Service at this place (you guys were here for the BBQ) has generally been very smooth since June 2010 when we moved in. We had to get techs out here a couple of time just after they replaced the drops this past summer --they needed to tune (something), then we had torrential rain that seemed to be getting iinto something, somewhere nearby. They did note lots of packet loss "at the drop" which meant it was not in my house, my lines or my equipment, so the tech calls were all zero-cost. You might like to have your own modem & router, which I have, or maybe not. I can discuss what equipment I am running here if necessary, with which I am very satisfied. I buy my own router & modem so that I can run my own software on it & see my own diagnostics pages. We do not experience a slowdown in the evenings or on rainy-day weekends here. Speed is very good 99.9% of the time. The only Cons: A couple of times I had to call Cust. Service to explain that the service calls they charged me for were not "my fault". But they immediately dropped the charges that had billed me for. So this is not that much of a Con except it did cost me some phone-call time. Just keep an eye on your bill & don't auto-pay. Some percentage of their phone support people (including Tech) is outsourced to overseas locations. Some of the accents are a bit difficult to understand. These techs have a hard time disuccing anything that is not in their canned script, so if the call is something they can't handle, I just ask for a "Level 2 Tech" or a "soup Tech" (supervisor) & usually I end up being transferred to someone in the US. Again, this is not much of a Con. I'm generally very pleased with the service. You'd be welcome to drop by with a laptop, or & check out what the service is like here, or just test the service using my spare desktop (Debian Squeeze which might become Mint at any moment). Or just PM me if you would like a demo. HTH, Liz J On 23 November 2011 18:13, Chuck Noyes <vze284qe(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - > it's been incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support > has been no help. So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). > I'd prefer a local one, but at this point, I'm not > fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We have Charter as the cable TV > provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. > > I don't want to start a "religious war" - I'm just looking for information > so I can make an informed decision. > > Thanks, > -Chuck > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Nov. 24, 2011

[OT] Internet Service Provider

by Chuck Noyes

Hi All, I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - it's been incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support has been no help. So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). I'd prefer a local one, but at this point, I'm not fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We have Charter as the cable TV provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. I don't want to start a "religious war" - I'm just looking for information so I can make an informed decision. Thanks, -Chuck

Nov. 23, 2011

Sr Software Engineer - C/Linux - perm in Cambridge area

by John Spencer

We have an opening for a Sr Software Engineer. This is a perm position for a sharp engineer with 7-10+ yrs of experience. Our client is looking for a well rounded Sr Software Engineer that is interested in working in a collaborative environment. Must have strong C programming skills. C++ and Java are a plus Must have strong Linux background and experience Systems software experience is needed Ability to come up to speed quickly and desire to work on a variety of projects and technology Experience working in an Agile environment is a plus. Please send resumes and any questions to the email address below. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com<http://www.connectedsp.com> GET CONNECTED! All information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

Nov. 16, 2011

jQuery help?

by John Stoffel

Anyone using jQuery (javascript) to program some client side elements in a web page? For example, I'm looking to have a drop down with a vary number of records to display on a page, and I want to update the display without reloading the page. So I'm playing with using 'Mojolicious::Lite' and some jQuery, but I'm hitting some brick walls. Anyone care to look at this code below and tell me why I don't see my selected values from the two different <select> pairs showing up in the named <div> pairs? #!/usr/bin/perl # Based on: http://api.jquery.com/change/ use Mojolicious::Lite; get '/top' => sub { my $self = shift; $self->stash(x => 10); $self->render('top'); }; app->secret('sweets'); app->start; __DATA__ @@ top.html.ep % title "jQuery dropdown select tests"; % layout "head"; <select name="sweets" multiple="multiple"> <option>Chocolate</option> <option selected="selected">Candy</option> <option>Taffy</option> <option selected="selected">Caramel</option> <option>Fudge</option> <option>Cookie</option> </select> <div id="sweets"></div> <script type="text/javascript"> $("select").change(function () { var strstr = ""; $("select option:selected").each(function () { strstr += $(this).text() + " "; }); $("div#sweets").text(strstr); }) .change(); </script> <hr> <select name="trees"> <option>Oak</option> <option selected="selected">Beech</option> <option>Pine</option> <option>Ash</option> <option>Willow</option> <option>Elm</option> </select> <script type="text/javascript"> $("select").change(function () { var str = ""; $("select option:selected").each(function () { str += $(this).text() + " "; }); $("div#trees").value(str); }) .change(); </script> <div id="trees"></div> @@ head.html.ep <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <title> <%= $title %> </title> <style> div { color:red; } </style> <script src="http://code.jquery.com/jquery-latest.js"></script> </head> <body> <%= content %? </body> </html> --

Nov. 15, 2011

LISA Conference in Boston

by Chuck Anderson

Here is a great opportunity to go to a professional Sysadmin/Linux/UNIX conference right here in Boston. Early Bird registration ends Monday. ===================================== Invitation to attend: The 25th Annual Large Installation System Administration Conference (LISA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- LISA is coming to Boston, December 4-9, 2011. With the addition of new speciality presentations and training, the breadth and quality of this year's tutorials, refereed papers, invited talks, and participants is unparalleled. 2011 LISA Conference highlights include: * The technical program with must-see invited talks such as: - The DevOps Transformation - The Operational Impact of Continuous Deployment - IBM's Jeopardy!-winning Watson Supercomputer * Practice and Experience presentations sharing real-life experiences on topics ranging from configuration management to security. * Over 40 tutorials taught by top instructors including: - Tobi Oetiker on RRDtool - Tom Limoncelli on Time Management for SysAdmins - Ted Ts'o on Data Recovery - Nan Lui on Puppet - Mark Burgess on Cfengine * "Guru Is In" sessions: get answers to your toughest questions. * The Vendor Exhibition highlighting new products and services and a look at who is hiring. * LISA's famed "hallway track" offers ample opportunity to meet and mingle with colleagues and industry leaders during breaks, BoFs, and other social activities. ----------------------------------------------------------- WHAT: LISA '11: 25th Large Installation System Administration Conference WHEN: December 4-9, 2011 WHERE: Boston, Massachusetts, USA Sheraton Boston Hotel WHO: System administrators, network administrators, DevOps, CIOs, CTOs, researchers, tool providers, support and help desk personnel, etc. WHY: Get the practical information you need to succeed. HOW: http://www.usenix.org/lisa11/progm Massive Discounts for Early Registration -- REGISTER NOW! ---------------------------------------------------------------- PS: Help us promote! -- Banners and buttons: http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa11/promote.html -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=283935088299936 -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/LISAConference #lisa11

Nov. 12, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Linux Installfest

by Aljerin Butler,Jr.

I would be interested in joining you Al Butler Custom Desktop Solutions >________________________________ >From: "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:00 PM >Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 97, Issue 2 > >----- Forwarded Message ----- > >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Today's Topics: > > 1. WPI - Linux Installfest (Henrique) > 2. Reminder: Change of Date: WLUG Meeting Thursday 11/10 7PM > (Chuck Anderson) > >Hello, > > >The WPI ACM group is hosting a InstallFest event, in which students interested in learning linux come around to try a distribution, and we are looking for speakers/more experience people to join. > > >If you are interested in joining, send me a message. The event is on Nov 29th, 2011 in WPI at Kaven Hall, room 202, (I will send another reminder with directions when the day before, and put some signs around). > > >What: Linux InstallFest >Where: WPI, Kaven Hall, Room 202 >When: Nov 29, 2011 > > >Also, I will be unable to attend the meeting on Thursday since I will be presenting at Spark Party. (And turning on the big tesla coils, but no playing music with it yet.) WLUG is welcome to join once the meeting is over. Spark Party is from 6pm to 10pm on AK116. > > >Thanks, >Henrique "nican" Polido.Hey guys, don't forget the meeting is not tonight, but TOMORROW night. > >Chuck > >On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 10:34:47AM -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I'm moving the meeting this month to this THURSDAY, November 10 at >> 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is >> in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the >> hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. >> >> [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf >> >> Lots of exciting things to talk about! Fedora 16 will be released >> tomorrow! I'll have some RAFFLE items! >> >> After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. >> >> Chuck >> President, Worcester Linux Users' Group > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

Nov. 10, 2011

Reminder: Change of Date: WLUG Meeting Thursday 11/10 7PM

by Chuck Anderson

Hey guys, don't forget the meeting is not tonight, but TOMORROW night. Chuck On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 10:34:47AM -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm moving the meeting this month to this THURSDAY, November 10 at > 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is > in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the > hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. > > [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf > > Lots of exciting things to talk about! Fedora 16 will be released > tomorrow! I'll have some RAFFLE items! > > After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. > > Chuck > President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

Nov. 9, 2011

WPI - Linux Installfest

by Henrique

Hello, The WPI ACM group is hosting a InstallFest event, in which students interested in learning linux come around to try a distribution, and we are looking for speakers/more experience people to join. If you are interested in joining, send me a message. The event is on Nov 29th, 2011 in WPI at Kaven Hall, room 202, (I will send another reminder with directions when the day before, and put some signs around). What: Linux InstallFest Where: WPI, Kaven Hall, Room 202 When: Nov 29, 2011 Also, I will be unable to attend the meeting on Thursday since I will be presenting at Spark Party. (And turning on the big tesla coils, but no playing music with it yet.) WLUG is welcome to join once the meeting is over. Spark Party is from 6pm to 10pm on AK116. Thanks, Henrique "nican" Polido.

Nov. 9, 2011

Announce: Change of Date: WLUG Meeting Thursday 11/10 7PM

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, I'm moving the meeting this month to this THURSDAY, November 10 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf Lots of exciting things to talk about! Fedora 16 will be released tomorrow! I'll have some RAFFLE items! After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

Nov. 7, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Question about dpkg

by Andy Stewart

On 10/27/2011 12:41 AM, Randall Mason wrote: > Sometimes it only compiles for the currently running kernel. Are you > running the old one outside of the chroot jail? When you are in the > chroot jail, and run uname -a, what do you get? > > Randall Mason > randall(a)mason.ch <mailto:randall@mason.ch> HI Randall, You've hit the nail on the head. That's exactly the problem. uname -a returns the running kernel, and that must be why the building of the modules (as part of the oss-linux package installation) is grabbing a kernel other than what I desire. Thanks for the help! Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

Oct. 27, 2011

Question about dpkg

by Randall Mason

Sometimes it only compiles for the currently running kernel. Are you running the old one outside of the chroot jail? When you are in the chroot jail, and run uname -a, what do you get? Randall Mason randall(a)mason.ch On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:28 AM, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net>wrote: > works great for my needs (older computers and software insisting upon >

Oct. 27, 2011

Question about dpkg

by Andy Stewart

HI guys, I have a bunch of files in a chroot jail which are used to create my remastered Ubuntu CD with ham radio applications. I installed oss-linux from its .deb package downloaded directly from opensound.com. I did this because OSS worked with this package but not the packages in the Ubuntu repository. I have removed alsa, pulse audio, and any other non-OSS sound software I could find. The result works great for my needs (older computers and software insisting upon access to /dev/dsp). Now, here's the interesting issue. In that chroot jail, I upgraded the kernel from 2.6.38-11 to 2.6.38-12 via the Ubuntu repositories. Doing this somehow wiped out my installation of oss-linux-<ver>.deb, so I attempted to reinstall it via "dpkg -i oss-linux-<ver>.deb". The error that I received indicated that it wanted to see the kernel sources for 2.6.38-11 (the old kernel). I can't get it to look at the new kernel sources 2.6.38-12. There some crufty file laying around somewhere and I can't find it. I even tried "dpkg -r" (to remove it), and "dpkg --purge", both to no avail. Does anybody have any idea where I should look? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

Oct. 26, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Artz <junk_inbox(a)verizon.net> writes: Jeff> I've got 7 drives just as individual drives directly attached Jeff> via SATA ports. Each drive is mounted individually, and I use Jeff> the "Storage Groups" feature in MythTV, which spreads the Jeff> recordings across all the drives pretty evenly. ;-) >> >> Interesting, no RAID. Did you do this for ease of expansion, so you >> just add a new disk and Myth simply starts using it? And I assume you >> don't care if you lose 150+ programs at a go if a disk dies, right? Jeff> I ran a Raid5 of 6 500GB drives for a couple of years. But then Jeff> I had a drive that was starting to fail, so I had bought a Jeff> replacement, and had powered down my system to replace the bad Jeff> drive. Well, when I did that, a 2nd drive went DOA with the Jeff> 'click-of-death'. No amount of recovery attempts brought things Jeff> back to life, so there I was with 2.5TB of Raid5'd recordings Jeff> gone.... Ouch, not fun. I can understand your desire to limit your losses. I guess with drives being so cheap now, RAID6 would make alot of sense with more drives. Jeff> So I re-built using Individual drives and Storage Groups. Now Jeff> if I were to lose a drive or two, I only lose SOME of my Jeff> recordings, not everything. Can't really object. I'm amazed at how many shows my Tivo now holds with it's 1Tb drive. Way more than I'll ever watch... >> Of course I'm running on a Tivo Premiere with a single disk so I'm >> toast too if it dies. I need to crack my case one day and make a >> backup... Jeff> I used to 'backup' my DishPlayer 7200's back in the day... but Jeff> it's much easier with MythTV. ;-) Having to crack the case is a pain I admit. But I love thr TiVo remote, it's the best one I've ever found bar none. It really just does the trick. >> I'm also using a Cable Card and a Cisco interface box because Tivo >> doesn't support the latest two way cable card standard. And that >> Cisco box keeps crapping out randomly and requires a reboot. Better Jeff> So this is basically an 'external tuner' for the Tivo? Sounds Jeff> like it could be used to feed a tuner for MythTV too... Jeff> Yes/No/Maybe? Is it SD or HD? (Sounds like SD) We're running an HD signal, but displaying to an old JVC Tube TV which is still going strong. Might replace it this Xmas, might not. Basically, with HD channels now, they have a cable card standard that allows you to get a listing of all your channels, but it only streams the ones actually being used at the time down your local cable loop, to minimize the bandwith used. So the Cisco box talks to the head end and says "I want channel 54" and the head end replies with "Tune to frequency X.y.z" which is either already streaming that channel, or which has just been setup to do that channel for you. The Tivo unfortunately doesn't understand this protocol for some reason so I need this extra box. Sucks in alot of ways, but it's better than the old cable box I used to have. Jeff> I had also tried tuning Clear QAM on my FiOS cable, but didn't Jeff> get anything except locals and the SD "Government" cable Jeff> channels, which are of no interest to me. And I get the locals Jeff> loud & clear via a roof-mounted UHF antenna. I suspect that Fios does the same thing, but I don't know. >> channel switching speed/accuracy than using an IR blaster though for >> sure! Jeff> Yeah, IR Blasting is somewhat of a science... When I was using Jeff> IR blasting, I managed to get things tuned up well enough that I Jeff> almost never had a bad channel change. But maybe it's because I Jeff> used an oscillescope to 'tune' my scripts to be 'pefect'... The thing I didn't like about the IR blaster was that it's so one way. The Tivo would just assume that the cable box was on the wrong channel and change it no matter what. The new setup uses a USB connection, so the Tivo asks for a channel and the Cisco tunes very quickly to the new channel, or just stays where it is. No annoying flashes or preceptable delays. Now I have to admit my Tivo Premiere feels *slower* for some operations compared to my older Series 2 unit. And last night I had it hang hard on me for about 5 minutes before it suddenly came back to life and started changing channels again. I hope it's not a disk dying or something like that... I should really take the time to pull it and make a backup. John

Oct. 24, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by Justin St. Marie

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Jeff Artz <junk_inbox(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >Jeff> I've got 7 drives just as individual drives directly attached > >Jeff> via SATA ports. Each drive is mounted individually, and I use > >Jeff> the "Storage Groups" feature in MythTV, which spreads the > >Jeff> recordings across all the drives pretty evenly. ;-) > > > >Interesting, no RAID. Did you do this for ease of expansion, so you > >just add a new disk and Myth simply starts using it? And I assume you > >don't care if you lose 150+ programs at a go if a disk dies, right? > > I ran a Raid5 of 6 500GB drives for a couple of years. But then I had a > drive that was starting to fail, so I had bought a replacement, and had > powered down my system to replace the bad drive. Well, when I did that, a > 2nd drive went DOA with the 'click-of-death'. No amount of recovery > attempts brought things back to life, so there I was with 2.5TB of Raid5'd > recordings gone.... > >>Sorry for the top post. I would go with RAID 6 over 5 with 7 drives. > So I re-built using Individual drives and Storage Groups. Now if I were to > lose a drive or two, I only lose SOME of my recordings, not everything. > > >Of course I'm running on a Tivo Premiere with a single disk so I'm > >toast too if it dies. I need to crack my case one day and make a > >backup... > > I used to 'backup' my DishPlayer 7200's back in the day... but it's much > easier with MythTV. ;-) > > >I'm also using a Cable Card and a Cisco interface box because Tivo > >doesn't support the latest two way cable card standard. And that > >Cisco box keeps crapping out randomly and requires a reboot. Better > > So this is basically an 'external tuner' for the Tivo? Sounds like it > could > be used to feed a tuner for MythTV too... Yes/No/Maybe? Is it SD or HD? > (Sounds like SD) > > I had also tried tuning Clear QAM on my FiOS cable, but didn't get anything > except locals and the SD "Government" cable channels, which are of no > interest to me. And I get the locals loud & clear via a roof-mounted UHF > antenna. > > >channel switching speed/accuracy than using an IR blaster though for > >sure! > Yeah, IR Blasting is somewhat of a science... When I was using IR blasting, > I managed to get things tuned up well enough that I almost never had a bad > channel change. But maybe it's because I used an oscillescope to 'tune' my > scripts to be 'pefect'... > > > > >John > > Jeff > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Oct. 23, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by Justin St. Marie

If you've got 7 drives I would go with RAID 6 over 5. On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Jeff Artz <junk_inbox(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >Jeff> I've got 7 drives just as individual drives directly attached > >Jeff> via SATA ports. Each drive is mounted individually, and I use > >Jeff> the "Storage Groups" feature in MythTV, which spreads the > >Jeff> recordings across all the drives pretty evenly. ;-) > > > >Interesting, no RAID. Did you do this for ease of expansion, so you > >just add a new disk and Myth simply starts using it? And I assume you > >don't care if you lose 150+ programs at a go if a disk dies, right? > > I ran a Raid5 of 6 500GB drives for a couple of years. But then I had a > drive that was starting to fail, so I had bought a replacement, and had > powered down my system to replace the bad drive. Well, when I did that, a > 2nd drive went DOA with the 'click-of-death'. No amount of recovery > attempts brought things back to life, so there I was with 2.5TB of Raid5'd > recordings gone.... > > So I re-built using Individual drives and Storage Groups. Now if I were to > lose a drive or two, I only lose SOME of my recordings, not everything. > > >Of course I'm running on a Tivo Premiere with a single disk so I'm > >toast too if it dies. I need to crack my case one day and make a > >backup... > > I used to 'backup' my DishPlayer 7200's back in the day... but it's much > easier with MythTV. ;-) > > >I'm also using a Cable Card and a Cisco interface box because Tivo > >doesn't support the latest two way cable card standard. And that > >Cisco box keeps crapping out randomly and requires a reboot. Better > > So this is basically an 'external tuner' for the Tivo? Sounds like it > could > be used to feed a tuner for MythTV too... Yes/No/Maybe? Is it SD or HD? > (Sounds like SD) > > I had also tried tuning Clear QAM on my FiOS cable, but didn't get anything > except locals and the SD "Government" cable channels, which are of no > interest to me. And I get the locals loud & clear via a roof-mounted UHF > antenna. > > >channel switching speed/accuracy than using an IR blaster though for > >sure! > Yeah, IR Blasting is somewhat of a science... When I was using IR blasting, > I managed to get things tuned up well enough that I almost never had a bad > channel change. But maybe it's because I used an oscillescope to 'tune' my > scripts to be 'pefect'... > > > > >John > > Jeff > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Justin St. Marie RHCSA, Network+

Oct. 23, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by Jeff Artz

>Jeff> I've got 7 drives just as individual drives directly attached >Jeff> via SATA ports. Each drive is mounted individually, and I use >Jeff> the "Storage Groups" feature in MythTV, which spreads the >Jeff> recordings across all the drives pretty evenly. ;-) > >Interesting, no RAID. Did you do this for ease of expansion, so you >just add a new disk and Myth simply starts using it? And I assume you >don't care if you lose 150+ programs at a go if a disk dies, right? I ran a Raid5 of 6 500GB drives for a couple of years. But then I had a drive that was starting to fail, so I had bought a replacement, and had powered down my system to replace the bad drive. Well, when I did that, a 2nd drive went DOA with the 'click-of-death'. No amount of recovery attempts brought things back to life, so there I was with 2.5TB of Raid5'd recordings gone.... So I re-built using Individual drives and Storage Groups. Now if I were to lose a drive or two, I only lose SOME of my recordings, not everything. >Of course I'm running on a Tivo Premiere with a single disk so I'm >toast too if it dies. I need to crack my case one day and make a >backup... I used to 'backup' my DishPlayer 7200's back in the day... but it's much easier with MythTV. ;-) >I'm also using a Cable Card and a Cisco interface box because Tivo >doesn't support the latest two way cable card standard. And that >Cisco box keeps crapping out randomly and requires a reboot. Better So this is basically an 'external tuner' for the Tivo? Sounds like it could be used to feed a tuner for MythTV too... Yes/No/Maybe? Is it SD or HD? (Sounds like SD) I had also tried tuning Clear QAM on my FiOS cable, but didn't get anything except locals and the SD "Government" cable channels, which are of no interest to me. And I get the locals loud & clear via a roof-mounted UHF antenna. >channel switching speed/accuracy than using an IR blaster though for >sure! Yeah, IR Blasting is somewhat of a science... When I was using IR blasting, I managed to get things tuned up well enough that I almost never had a bad channel change. But maybe it's because I used an oscillescope to 'tune' my scripts to be 'pefect'... > >John Jeff

Oct. 22, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by John Stoffel

Jeff> I've got 7 drives just as individual drives directly attached Jeff> via SATA ports. Each drive is mounted individually, and I use Jeff> the "Storage Groups" feature in MythTV, which spreads the Jeff> recordings across all the drives pretty evenly. ;-) Interesting, no RAID. Did you do this for ease of expansion, so you just add a new disk and Myth simply starts using it? And I assume you don't care if you lose 150+ programs at a go if a disk dies, right? Of course I'm running on a Tivo Premiere with a single disk so I'm toast too if it dies. I need to crack my case one day and make a backup... I'm also using a Cable Card and a Cisco interface box because Tivo doesn't support the latest two way cable card standard. And that Cisco box keeps crapping out randomly and requires a reboot. Better channel switching speed/accuracy than using an IR blaster though for sure! John

Oct. 22, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by Jeff Artz

>On Thursday, October 20, 2011 06:11:29 PM Jeff Artz wrote: >> >> Then about a year ago I switched to FiOS HD. So I now have two HD STB's >> from Verizon, feeding Hauppauge HD-PVR encoders (Component Video IN, USB >> Out >> [H.264 encoded]). I use Firewire for channel changes on the FiOS boxes. >> >Can you explain this setup more clearly? You are running USB out from the >FIOS >STB into a PVR card? I also have FIOS, i just run the coax out from the STB >a >PVR/HVR card. I also use firewire for changing channels. I used to have >comcast, but switched to FIOS and i was impressed with the number of ports >in >on the FIOS STB (comcast STB only had coax in/out and IR, nothing else). i >was >very happy to see firewire with FIOS, much easier than IR. > Gladly! In-between each STB and my Myth box is a Hauppauge HD-PVR box. This unit takes Analog Component Video (HD) and Digital Audio (Optical) from the STB, and encodes it to H.264 on the fly. It connects to your computer via USB. (You'd need one for each HD STB you want to record from -- I have two.) ;-) When I bought mine, they were about $220 each - looks like they haven't really come down much as the 'street' price seems to be around $200 each now. Here's a link to the MythTV Wiki for the HD_PVR: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/HD-PVR And here's a link to Hauppauge's page for the HD-PVR: http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html >> For HD, the only current option is to feed Component Video from a STB >> into >> an Hauppauge HD-PVR. >> >Just curious, do you notice any small glitches in the audio and video in HD >recordings (or live TV)? Every so often spot glitches in the audio and >video >on HD, it's a bit annoying, sometimes it even crashes mythtv (or X). > I haven't noticed any artifacts of the H.263 encoding coming out of the HD-PVRs - but maybe that's because I run it at the highest bitrate (13.5Mbps). I do that because even at that rate, the files are only about 6GB/hr. >also curious to know what distro you used for the base install, mythbuntu, >fedora, etc ? I cut my teeth on Jarod Wilson's "MythTV on Fedora" guide a zillion years ago, and have stuck with it over the years. ;-) My backend is currently FC 13, and my frontends are running various versions, from FC 11 to FC 14... I compile from source - I'm running 0.24-fixes now, anxiously awaiting the release of 0.25 ;-) >> Oh, and you'll need a bit of disk space too! OTA HD broadcasts are >> 5-7GB/hour, and the HD-PVR's h.264 output is about the same size [maxed >> out >> at 13Mbps max rate]. I currently have 6.5TB of space on my backend - a >> bit >> overkill-- as I have over 1,000 programs recorded at any given time... >> ;-) >> >Yikes! Hehehe... My first 'production' backend was just a 18GB SCSI system/DB disk, and a pair of 50GB SCSI drives for Video... ;-) My current backend has a 60GB SSD for OS & DB, and 6.5TB of disks for Recordings and 500GB for 'Videos' - I've currently got 277 movies in my Video archive. ;-) >> Note that MythTV is *not* the cheapest, nor the *easiest* to setup and >> configure - actually, I'd consider it more of a 'hobby' and requires >> occasional 'care & feeding'... But the flexibility that it gives you far >> exceeds any other offerings -- Like commercial detection and >> auto-skipping >> them during playback - just to name one! >> >Agreed. This is very well said. > > Hehehe, thanks. ;-) I originally setup MythTV as I was using Dish Network and had two DishPlayer 7200 DVR's - one with the 'stock' 8GB drive (~6 hrs), and another with a 120GB drive (~100 hrs). They worked great, but you could only watch things on the actual unit you recorded it on... So I setup MythTV, and 3 frontends, and then I could watch anything on any TV, and had more disk space too... (eventually!) >- brad PS: My IRC nic is J-e-f-f-A and I'm on #mythtv-users pretty often... I run a proxy on my backend, so even if I'm not 'active', I'll see any message that my nic is mentioned in. ;-) Jeff

Oct. 22, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by Jeff Artz

Tim, I've got 7 drives just as individual drives directly attached via SATA ports. Each drive is mounted individually, and I use the "Storage Groups" feature in MythTV, which spreads the recordings across all the drives pretty evenly. ;-) Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Keller To: Worcester Linux Users Group Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info? A 1,000 programs? Damn! So basically you've got entire seasons of shows cached up ready to watch? How do you have your disk space configured? Are you using a NAS or is it JBOD? On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Jeff Artz <junk_inbox(a)verizon.net> wrote: I know I'm chiming in very late... But I've been using MythTV for about 7 years now and one of the previous replies isn't -entirely- true... Although it is true that you can't just plop a satellite receiver card in your computer and pull in Sat TV directly to your computer [due to the encryption], you *can* use Sat tv with MythTV by using the company's STB to feed an analog tuner on your computer. I started out doing this exact thing - although with Dish Network - with MythTV in 2004. I fed the S-Video and Sterio audio from the receivers into Hauppauge tuners, and used IR blasters to change channels on the STBs. I ran with that configuration for the first 6 years or so! Then about a year ago I switched to FiOS HD. So I now have two HD STB's from Verizon, feeding Hauppauge HD-PVR encoders (Component Video IN, USB Out [H.264 encoded]). I use Firewire for channel changes on the FiOS boxes. I also have two Dual-tuner HD-HomeRun tuners for OTA HD [ATSC]. So you *CAN* use MythTV with Satellite TV, but you need to use their STB (Set-Top-Box), and feed the output from that into a capture device to record with MythTV. For SD (Standard Definition), the best picture quality/easiest setup is feeding S-Video and Analog audio into a Hauppauge PVR tuner (PVR-150, 250, 350 or 500) (500 is a dual-tuner). For HD, the only current option is to feed Component Video from a STB into an Hauppauge HD-PVR. Oh, and you'll need a bit of disk space too! OTA HD broadcasts are 5-7GB/hour, and the HD-PVR's h.264 output is about the same size [maxed out at 13Mbps max rate]. I currently have 6.5TB of space on my backend - a bit overkill-- as I have over 1,000 programs recorded at any given time... ;-) Note that MythTV is *not* the cheapest, nor the *easiest* to setup and configure - actually, I'd consider it more of a 'hobby' and requires occasional 'care & feeding'... But the flexibility that it gives you far exceeds any other offerings -- Like commercial detection and auto-skipping them during playback - just to name one! Jeff Artz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clint Moyer" <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> To: "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info? You're not going to get Myth or any HTPC to work with DirecTV because there are no tuner cards that can unscramble the signal. Satellite TV requires a receiver from the vendor. We dropped DirecTV for over-the-air and TiVo and saved nearly $100/mo in the process. If you choose OTA, you'll want to consider the money and time investment for at least two PCs for Myth. TiVo will allow you to view recordings among all receivers on your LAN. Of course, there's a monthly fee for each TiVo... On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:07 AM, joel d <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I am re-working our TV to HDTV currently and trying to decide on a DVR. > Currently I use Charter's DVR and not impressed with their DVR > layout/features. > > Currently I am looking at either the DirectTV whole house DVR option > or building a Myth DVR box(s). > > Not sure I want to bite off the Myth though due to needing 2 machines, > tuner card, and chunks of my time (vs turnkey for an "appliance"). > > I have read the docs at MythTV website but am asking current Myth users: > > 1) Others are running for Myth hardware (front and back end specs) > > 2) Any estimates on install startup hours and monthly maintenance hours. > > 3) Any tips for a quick & smooth Myth install in late 2011 > > My current plans include a video source of HD via satellite from Dish > or DirectTV and am leaning towards a Samsung 55" LCD/LED set. > > I got the impression around three years ago that Myth was a "techie > time intensive" thing to setup and run. > I could be all wet on that impression or it may have changed. > > Thank you, > > Joel > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 22, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by brad

On Thursday, October 20, 2011 06:11:29 PM Jeff Artz wrote: > > Then about a year ago I switched to FiOS HD. So I now have two HD STB's > from Verizon, feeding Hauppauge HD-PVR encoders (Component Video IN, USB Out > [H.264 encoded]). I use Firewire for channel changes on the FiOS boxes. > Can you explain this setup more clearly? You are running USB out from the FIOS STB into a PVR card? I also have FIOS, i just run the coax out from the STB a PVR/HVR card. I also use firewire for changing channels. I used to have comcast, but switched to FIOS and i was impressed with the number of ports in on the FIOS STB (comcast STB only had coax in/out and IR, nothing else). i was very happy to see firewire with FIOS, much easier than IR. > > For HD, the only current option is to feed Component Video from a STB into > an Hauppauge HD-PVR. > Just curious, do you notice any small glitches in the audio and video in HD recordings (or live TV)? Every so often spot glitches in the audio and video on HD, it's a bit annoying, sometimes it even crashes mythtv (or X). also curious to know what distro you used for the base install, mythbuntu, fedora, etc ? > Oh, and you'll need a bit of disk space too! OTA HD broadcasts are > 5-7GB/hour, and the HD-PVR's h.264 output is about the same size [maxed out > at 13Mbps max rate]. I currently have 6.5TB of space on my backend - a bit > overkill-- as I have over 1,000 programs recorded at any given time... ;-) > Yikes! > Note that MythTV is *not* the cheapest, nor the *easiest* to setup and > configure - actually, I'd consider it more of a 'hobby' and requires > occasional 'care & feeding'... But the flexibility that it gives you far > exceeds any other offerings -- Like commercial detection and auto-skipping > them during playback - just to name one! > Agreed. This is very well said. - brad

Oct. 21, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by Tim Keller

A 1,000 programs? Damn! So basically you've got entire seasons of shows cached up ready to watch? How do you have your disk space configured? Are you using a NAS or is it JBOD? On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Jeff Artz <junk_inbox(a)verizon.net> wrote: > I know I'm chiming in very late... But I've been using MythTV for about 7 > years now and one of the previous replies isn't -entirely- true... > > Although it is true that you can't just plop a satellite receiver card in > your computer and pull in Sat TV directly to your computer [due to the > encryption], you *can* use Sat tv with MythTV by using the company's STB to > feed an analog tuner on your computer. > > I started out doing this exact thing - although with Dish Network - with > MythTV in 2004. I fed the S-Video and Sterio audio from the receivers into > Hauppauge tuners, and used IR blasters to change channels on the STBs. I > ran with that configuration for the first 6 years or so! > > Then about a year ago I switched to FiOS HD. So I now have two HD STB's > from Verizon, feeding Hauppauge HD-PVR encoders (Component Video IN, USB > Out > [H.264 encoded]). I use Firewire for channel changes on the FiOS boxes. > > I also have two Dual-tuner HD-HomeRun tuners for OTA HD [ATSC]. > > So you *CAN* use MythTV with Satellite TV, but you need to use their STB > (Set-Top-Box), and feed the output from that into a capture device to > record > with MythTV. > > For SD (Standard Definition), the best picture quality/easiest setup is > feeding S-Video and Analog audio into a Hauppauge PVR tuner (PVR-150, 250, > 350 or 500) (500 is a dual-tuner). > > For HD, the only current option is to feed Component Video from a STB into > an Hauppauge HD-PVR. > > Oh, and you'll need a bit of disk space too! OTA HD broadcasts are > 5-7GB/hour, and the HD-PVR's h.264 output is about the same size [maxed out > at 13Mbps max rate]. I currently have 6.5TB of space on my backend - a bit > overkill-- as I have over 1,000 programs recorded at any given time... ;-) > > Note that MythTV is *not* the cheapest, nor the *easiest* to setup and > configure - actually, I'd consider it more of a 'hobby' and requires > occasional 'care & feeding'... But the flexibility that it gives you far > exceeds any other offerings -- Like commercial detection and auto-skipping > them during playback - just to name one! > > Jeff Artz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clint Moyer" <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> > To: "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:25 PM > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info? > > > You're not going to get Myth or any HTPC to work with DirecTV because there > are no tuner cards that can unscramble the signal. Satellite TV requires a > receiver from the vendor. > > We dropped DirecTV for over-the-air and TiVo and saved nearly $100/mo in > the > process. > > If you choose OTA, you'll want to consider the money and time investment > for > at least two PCs for Myth. TiVo will allow you to view recordings among all > receivers on your LAN. Of course, there's a monthly fee for each TiVo... > > > On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:07 AM, joel d <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am re-working our TV to HDTV currently and trying to decide on a DVR. > > Currently I use Charter's DVR and not impressed with their DVR > > layout/features. > > > > Currently I am looking at either the DirectTV whole house DVR option > > or building a Myth DVR box(s). > > > > Not sure I want to bite off the Myth though due to needing 2 machines, > > tuner card, and chunks of my time (vs turnkey for an "appliance"). > > > > I have read the docs at MythTV website but am asking current Myth users: > > > > 1) Others are running for Myth hardware (front and back end specs) > > > > 2) Any estimates on install startup hours and monthly maintenance hours. > > > > 3) Any tips for a quick & smooth Myth install in late 2011 > > > > My current plans include a video source of HD via satellite from Dish > > or DirectTV and am leaning towards a Samsung 55" LCD/LED set. > > > > I got the impression around three years ago that Myth was a "techie > > time intensive" thing to setup and run. > > I could be all wet on that impression or it may have changed. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Joel > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 21, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?

by Jeff Artz

I know I'm chiming in very late... But I've been using MythTV for about 7 years now and one of the previous replies isn't -entirely- true... Although it is true that you can't just plop a satellite receiver card in your computer and pull in Sat TV directly to your computer [due to the encryption], you *can* use Sat tv with MythTV by using the company's STB to feed an analog tuner on your computer. I started out doing this exact thing - although with Dish Network - with MythTV in 2004. I fed the S-Video and Sterio audio from the receivers into Hauppauge tuners, and used IR blasters to change channels on the STBs. I ran with that configuration for the first 6 years or so! Then about a year ago I switched to FiOS HD. So I now have two HD STB's from Verizon, feeding Hauppauge HD-PVR encoders (Component Video IN, USB Out [H.264 encoded]). I use Firewire for channel changes on the FiOS boxes. I also have two Dual-tuner HD-HomeRun tuners for OTA HD [ATSC]. So you *CAN* use MythTV with Satellite TV, but you need to use their STB (Set-Top-Box), and feed the output from that into a capture device to record with MythTV. For SD (Standard Definition), the best picture quality/easiest setup is feeding S-Video and Analog audio into a Hauppauge PVR tuner (PVR-150, 250, 350 or 500) (500 is a dual-tuner). For HD, the only current option is to feed Component Video from a STB into an Hauppauge HD-PVR. Oh, and you'll need a bit of disk space too! OTA HD broadcasts are 5-7GB/hour, and the HD-PVR's h.264 output is about the same size [maxed out at 13Mbps max rate]. I currently have 6.5TB of space on my backend - a bit overkill-- as I have over 1,000 programs recorded at any given time... ;-) Note that MythTV is *not* the cheapest, nor the *easiest* to setup and configure - actually, I'd consider it more of a 'hobby' and requires occasional 'care & feeding'... But the flexibility that it gives you far exceeds any other offerings -- Like commercial detection and auto-skipping them during playback - just to name one! Jeff Artz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clint Moyer" <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> To: "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info? You're not going to get Myth or any HTPC to work with DirecTV because there are no tuner cards that can unscramble the signal. Satellite TV requires a receiver from the vendor. We dropped DirecTV for over-the-air and TiVo and saved nearly $100/mo in the process. If you choose OTA, you'll want to consider the money and time investment for at least two PCs for Myth. TiVo will allow you to view recordings among all receivers on your LAN. Of course, there's a monthly fee for each TiVo... On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:07 AM, joel d <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I am re-working our TV to HDTV currently and trying to decide on a DVR. > Currently I use Charter's DVR and not impressed with their DVR > layout/features. > > Currently I am looking at either the DirectTV whole house DVR option > or building a Myth DVR box(s). > > Not sure I want to bite off the Myth though due to needing 2 machines, > tuner card, and chunks of my time (vs turnkey for an "appliance"). > > I have read the docs at MythTV website but am asking current Myth users: > > 1) Others are running for Myth hardware (front and back end specs) > > 2) Any estimates on install startup hours and monthly maintenance hours. > > 3) Any tips for a quick & smooth Myth install in late 2011 > > My current plans include a video source of HD via satellite from Dish > or DirectTV and am leaning towards a Samsung 55" LCD/LED set. > > I got the impression around three years ago that Myth was a "techie > time intensive" thing to setup and run. > I could be all wet on that impression or it may have changed. > > Thank you, > > Joel > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 20, 2011

Thanks everybody, Fedora it shall be

by Ken Jones

Originally I worked with SUNsparc work stations using Aurora. About 2003 I added Fedora Red Hat to a dual booted Windows machine. My two SUN's got reduced to one virtue of hardware issues. Then I turned it off. The Red Hat part of my big disk became sick in 2005. I've been Windows XP 2004 Professional ever since. Recently I rebuilt a Fedora machine and am appalled at how much I have forgotten.. Sigh...... Thanks, Ken

Oct. 14, 2011

Re: [Wlug] New computer - dual boot - question

by Eric J. Martin

As a user of both Gentoo and Fedora/CentOS, I have to agree with Jared and Randall. Fedora is great because it has a nice, simple GUI installer and you can be up and running in under an hour. It's binary packages allow you to update the machine quickly with minimal problems. On the other hand, Gentoo is great at being agile. Basically you download a liveCD, get a tarball of a 90% working machine, and follow their excellent documentation to get your machine installed. There are no versions per se with Gentoo as they do rolling updates. Gentoo is how I learned about the nuts and bolts of GNU/Linux and I still love / use it to this day. Also, I find it very useful for tackling problems in the mainstream binary distributions such as, "Why won't $PROGRAM_X run with $FUNCTION_Y?" Luckily for you, both distributions are highly represented on this list, so I'm sure no matter what you choose somebody will be able to help you out. On 10/12/11 12:54, Jared Greenwald wrote: > Ken, > > Can you be more specific about what you mean when you say you want to > be more familiar with X? > > If you want to learn all about X, I'd suggest Gentoo as it's DIY > nature allows you to learn a lot about the underlying components of > the OS. > > If you just want Linux, then Fedora or Ubuntu work well. > > Depends on what exactly you are looking to achieve... > > -Jared > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: >> WLUGers, >> >> I have purchased a new DELL desktop. I want to refamiliarize myself with X. >> I intend to dual boot the machine. Would my best selection for Linux be >> Fedora 16 (or whatever they are up to now)? If not, which do you suggest? >> >> Ken Jones >> -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F

Oct. 12, 2011

Re: [Wlug] New computer - dual boot - question

by Jared Greenwald

Ken, Can you be more specific about what you mean when you say you want to be more familiar with X? If you want to learn all about X, I'd suggest Gentoo as it's DIY nature allows you to learn a lot about the underlying components of the OS. If you just want Linux, then Fedora or Ubuntu work well. Depends on what exactly you are looking to achieve... -Jared On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > WLUGers, > > I have purchased a new DELL desktop. I want to refamiliarize myself with X. > I intend to dual boot the machine. Would my best selection for Linux be > Fedora 16 (or whatever they are up to now)? If not, which do you suggest? > > Ken Jones > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Oct. 12, 2011

Re: [Wlug] New computer - dual boot - question

by Randall Mason

If you need to learn everything about X, go for a do it yourself distro like gentoo. If you need to relearn how to use X, Fedora or Ubuntu would work fine, or even cygwin x on Windows would do that. On Oct 12, 2011 7:38 PM, "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > ** > WLUGers, > > I have purchased a new DELL desktop. I want to refamiliarize myself with > X. I intend to dual boot the machine. Would my best selection for Linux be > Fedora 16 (or whatever they are up to now)? If not, which do you suggest? > > Ken Jones > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Oct. 12, 2011

New computer - dual boot - question

by Ken Jones

WLUGers, I have purchased a new DELL desktop. I want to refamiliarize myself with X. I intend to dual boot the machine. Would my best selection for Linux be Fedora 16 (or whatever they are up to now)? If not, which do you suggest? Ken Jones

Oct. 12, 2011

wlug/MeeGo tonite wed oct12

by Doug Mildram

doug> all confirmed and the oct5 quote below still accurate!...I'll be hosting: cra> ..WLUG meeting is Wednesday, October 12 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf This month, Andy Stewart will be giving a talk & demo of MeeGo, a Linux distribution designed for Netbooks, Tablets, and other smaller devices. After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. ---- doug> bring $1,$5's! for cash pizza/drinks..usually ~$6.

Oct. 12, 2011

Announce: WLUG Meeting Wednesday 10/12 7PM: MeeGo

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, Our next WLUG meeting is Wednesday, October 12 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf This month, Andy Stewart will be giving a talk & demo of MeeGo, a Linux distribution designed for Netbooks, Tablets, and other smaller devices. After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it to the October meeting. Doug Mildram has agreed to run the meeting for us this month--thanks Doug! Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

Oct. 5, 2011

Re: [Wlug] 2nd hard drive problem

by Tim Keller

Ken, If you're getting "IO failure", then you've quite likely got a bad hard drive... I'd load the smart tools and test the disk to see if it's got bad sectors. Here's a like to Western Digitals website for your drive. They've got some tools you can download to test the drive as well. http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?modelno=WD1600AAJB&x=11&y=10 Thanks, Tim. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Thank you, Chuck. Lot's more information here. Suggestions? > > [root@pacman mnt]# dmesg | grep hdb > ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA > hdb: WDC WD1600AAJB-00J3A0, ATA DISK drive > hdb: max request size: 512KiB > hdb: 312581808 sectors (160041 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=19457/255/63, > UDMA(66) > hdb: cache flushes supported > hdb: hdb1 hdb2 > EXT3 FS on hdb1, internal journal > SELinux: initialized (dev hdb1, type ext3), uses xattr > EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_update_dynamic_rev: updating to rev > 1 because of new feature flag, running e2fsck is recommended > EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal > SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_new_inode: reserved inode or inode > > inodes count - block_group = 0, inode=1 > Aborting journal on device hdb2. > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_new_inode: IO failure > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_create: IO failure > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted > journal > EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_clear_journal_err: Filesystem error > recorded from previous mount: IO failure > EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_clear_journal_err: Marking fs in > need of filesystem check. > EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal > SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr > EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal > SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_new_inode: reserved inode or inode > > inodes count - block_group = 0, inode=2 > Aborting journal on device hdb2. > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_new_inode: IO failure > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_create: IO failure > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted > journal > [root@pacman mnt]# > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 19, 2011

2nd hard drive problem

by Ken Jones

Thank you, Chuck. Lot's more information here. Suggestions? [root@pacman mnt]# dmesg | grep hdb ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA hdb: WDC WD1600AAJB-00J3A0, ATA DISK drive hdb: max request size: 512KiB hdb: 312581808 sectors (160041 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=19457/255/63, UDMA(66) hdb: cache flushes supported hdb: hdb1 hdb2 EXT3 FS on hdb1, internal journal SELinux: initialized (dev hdb1, type ext3), uses xattr EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_update_dynamic_rev: updating to rev 1 because of new feature flag, running e2fsck is recommended EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_new_inode: reserved inode or inode > inodes count - block_group = 0, inode=1 Aborting journal on device hdb2. EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_new_inode: IO failure EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_create: IO failure EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted journal EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_clear_journal_err: Filesystem error recorded from previous mount: IO failure EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_clear_journal_err: Marking fs in need of filesystem check. EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_new_inode: reserved inode or inode > inodes count - block_group = 0, inode=2 Aborting journal on device hdb2. EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_new_inode: IO failure EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_create: IO failure EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted journal [root@pacman mnt]#

Sept. 19, 2011

Re: [Wlug] More on my 2nd hard drive problem

by Chuck Anderson

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 05:57:57PM -0400, Ken Jones wrote: > The problem with your attempts to help may be > in that my Fedora is soooo old. It is Fedora 4. This > second disk has/had? Fedora 6, but it never worked > correctly. > > Here is the result of grep'ng all of /var/log/dmesg Please type this command exactly like this: dmesg | grep hdb and post the output. It is not the same as /var/log/dmesg.

Sept. 19, 2011