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Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by Richard Klein

And for all that, it costs me less to get Verizon phone + DSL than to get phone alone. It's really tempting to drop the landline, but I have my reasons... On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > Charter Business quoted me $215/month for 100Gbps down/7 Gbps up or $130 > for 80/5. That's with a static IP; you save $15 if you opt for a dynamic > IP. That allows you to run servers (explicitly disallowed under the > residential TOS), and I assume has no caps, but I don't know for sure, yet. > It's really tempting, but I think I'd better stick with the cheaper > residential service until I get used to the bills in the new place. > > -- > Rich > > > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org>wrote: > >> I'm investigating Charter Business service, too. I'll let you know what >> I find out. >> >> -- >> Rich >> >> >> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org>wrote: >> >>> Speaking of caps, here's a useful page (Charter doesn't fare well): >>> http://gigaom.com/2012/10/01/data-caps-chart/ >>> >>> -- >>> Rich >>> >> >> >

May 7, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by Richard Klein

Charter Business quoted me $215/month for 100Gbps down/7 Gbps up or $130 for 80/5. That's with a static IP; you save $15 if you opt for a dynamic IP. That allows you to run servers (explicitly disallowed under the residential TOS), and I assume has no caps, but I don't know for sure, yet. It's really tempting, but I think I'd better stick with the cheaper residential service until I get used to the bills in the new place. -- Rich On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > I'm investigating Charter Business service, too. I'll let you know what I > find out. > > -- > Rich > > > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org>wrote: > >> Speaking of caps, here's a useful page (Charter doesn't fare well): >> http://gigaom.com/2012/10/01/data-caps-chart/ >> >> -- >> Rich >> > >

May 7, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by John Stoffel

Michael> A benefit of my Charter service has been that my home IP Michael> address has changed ONLY TWICE in the many years that I've Michael> been a subscriber. Mine is pretty stable too, but since I use dynamic DNS, I don't have to remember the IP, just the name. :-)

May 6, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by John Stoffel

Richard> I'm investigating Charter Business service, too. I'll let you know what I find out. My church in Upton is moving from Verizon DSL to Charter Business internet because we can't get a fast enough speed with DSL for the VoiP solution we're going to move to. Should be just fine. John

May 6, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by John Stoffel

E> Since when don't they allow self-owned modems any more? How long E> ago did they tell you this? Since I recently got a new plan to save myself $40/mon with them. I was grandfathered in under the old plan. The new setup requires a DOCIS 3.0 modem to get the higher speeds. I think (can't remember...) I stayed with 30mbit down, 5 up, but I could have gone with 50mbit down. Not a big deal and not a huge difference. E> I own mine and they are not complaining at me. I think it is about E> 2 years old. I also am "renting" theirs as a part of the standard E> cost for 30/4 internet. It's on a shelf in case my own modem ever E> conks out. In my new plan, the rental fee is bundled into the setup. E> What happened here is that my older new modem almost-died around 2 E> years ago (one of the newer Motorola Surfboards). It was returning E> a lot of errors and they sent 2 techs out here to see what the E> problem might be. They didn't find anything in their lines, so they E> decided the modem was dying. They gave me their modem and left. It E> turns out it was probably the power supply that was working E> intermittantly poorly, but that's a moot point now. E> After the techs left, I bought a new modem (another Motorola SB) E> and plugged it in the day it arrived. Then I called Charter, and E> they provisioned it. I didn't ask them if I could, and the service E> tech on the phone didn't tell me I can't have it. She simply took E> the numbers I gave her and had it going in 5 minutes. Yup, that's how it worked with me last time I did this. E> I would be very annoyed if I was forced to use their modem. I think E> it's important to be able to access the logs, crummy as they are, E> it's nice to know when certain events happen. E> So when did they tell you this, John? Month or so ago. I don't care all that much since it's *very* reliable for me, and I ssh home all the time with my dynamic DNS hostname, mount stuff via SSHFS, etc. I love being able to get home at will. So I run m0n0wall on an old pcengine.ch WRAP board, so I can do my own firewall/routing with a silent box without any moving parts. Been thinking to upgrade to a newer system and possibly move to smoothwall instead. No rush... it's all stable and reliable.

May 6, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by Michael Voorhis

A benefit of my Charter service has been that my home IP address has changed ONLY TWICE in the many years that I've been a subscriber. On 05/06/2014 01:50 PM, Richard Klein wrote: > I'm investigating Charter Business service, too. I'll let you know > what I find out.

May 6, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by Richard Klein

I'm investigating Charter Business service, too. I'll let you know what I find out. -- Rich On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org>wrote: > Speaking of caps, here's a useful page (Charter doesn't fare well): > http://gigaom.com/2012/10/01/data-caps-chart/ > > -- > Rich >

May 6, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by E Johnson

Since when don't they allow self-owned modems any more? How long ago did they tell you this? I own mine and they are not complaining at me. I think it is about 2 years old. I also am "renting" theirs as a part of the standard cost for 30/4 internet. It's on a shelf in case my own modem ever conks out. What happened here is that my older new modem almost-died around 2 years ago (one of the newer Motorola Surfboards). It was returning a lot of errors and they sent 2 techs out here to see what the problem might be. They didn't find anything in their lines, so they decided the modem was dying. They gave me their modem and left. It turns out it was probably the power supply that was working intermittantly poorly, but that's a moot point now. After the techs left, I bought a new modem (another Motorola SB) and plugged it in the day it arrived. Then I called Charter, and they provisioned it. I didn't ask them if I could, and the service tech on the phone didn't tell me I can't have it. She simply took the numbers I gave her and had it going in 5 minutes. I would be very annoyed if I was forced to use their modem. I think it's important to be able to access the logs, crummy as they are, it's nice to know when certain events happen. So when did they tell you this, John? Thanks, Liz J On 6 May 2014 11:46, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > The other gotcha with Charter now is that they won't let you use your > own cable modem any more. I know, I tried to keep my old DOCIS 2.0 > (maybe 3.0) modem when I recently re-negotiated my triple play costs > down by something like $45/mon for the next year. Well worth the > savings. > > In my experience, Charter phone has been excellent (out here in > Boylston, where my local verizon lines are buried on my street and > happened to have problems when it rained), and very reliable. Can't > complain. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 6, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by Brett Russ

I've been using the DOCSIS 1.0 modem I bought from Charter (Moto Surfboard SB4100) back when the internet was invented. I wonder if I'd see any benefits by upgrading to a newer model. On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:46 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > The other gotcha with Charter now is that they won't let you use your > own cable modem any more. I know, I tried to keep my old DOCIS 2.0 > (maybe 3.0) modem when I recently re-negotiated my triple play costs > down by something like $45/mon for the next year. Well worth the > savings. > > In my experience, Charter phone has been excellent (out here in > Boylston, where my local verizon lines are buried on my street and > happened to have problems when it rained), and very reliable. Can't > complain. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 6, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by John Stoffel

The other gotcha with Charter now is that they won't let you use your own cable modem any more. I know, I tried to keep my old DOCIS 2.0 (maybe 3.0) modem when I recently re-negotiated my triple play costs down by something like $45/mon for the next year. Well worth the savings. In my experience, Charter phone has been excellent (out here in Boylston, where my local verizon lines are buried on my street and happened to have problems when it rained), and very reliable. Can't complain.

May 6, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by Richard Klein

Speaking of caps, here's a useful page (Charter doesn't fare well): http://gigaom.com/2012/10/01/data-caps-chart/ -- Rich

May 6, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by Richard Klein

Verizon is offering service as fast as 3Mbps in my new neighborhood, also, so it looks like I'll go with Charter. I have an unreasoning dislike of cable companies (not that Verizon is wonderful), but I think I'll suck it up and choose Charter. I left Comcast in Clinton years ago because they had...was it 250GB/month?...data caps that I regularly ran over. I hadn't yet gotten into trouble for that, but their TOS allows them to ban you for running over their caps, and I didn't want to have to deal with that, or financially support such a company. Verizon DSL service in Clinton has been slower, and sometimes unreliable, but they have no caps (last I checked). The service in the new neighborhood promises to be even slower than what I have in Clinton, though, and that's insufferable. Thanks for the advice, everyone! And I'll have to check for buffer bloat. -- Rich On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:38 PM, JeffA Maillists <jeffa.maillists(a)gmail.com>wrote: > When I recently moved back to Worc, the options were: DSL or Cable > internet. > > DSL wasn't an option for me (IMHO), because the speed was predicted to > be "as high as" 3Mbps on my street, so I reluctantly went with cable > internet. The only cable provider in the city is Charter. > > It's no match for the FiOS internet I had in Marlborough, but it's > better than DSL. > > Charter's advertised speed is 30Mbps, but I occasionally see upwards of > 40Mbps. Upload is capped at 4.2Mbps. > > Jeff > On May 5, 2014 4:46 PM, "Richard Klein" <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > >> I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL >> when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, >> and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and >> the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good >> website to find an ISP? >> >> -- >> Thanks! >> Rich >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 6, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by Brett Russ

Yes, this is why I pay them ~$13 for "basic" TV service, which currently brings in local channels in HD accessible via a QAM tuner equipped TV. However, they've told us that soon they'll encrypt even local channels such that everyone will need to use a cable box (or possibly cable card will also work?) to watch. The extra $3 is worth it for something vs paying $10 for "nothing". Bottom line, it's a monopoly. DSL is not a real competitive threat, FiOS rollout is dead, AT&T offers home broadband via an LTE mobile access point but requires you to pay through the nose for a capped data plan (just like with a smartphone). I hear Verizon is focusing now on home broadband via LTE as well. I'm sure these won't be cheap but perhaps over time it will be competitive to Charter and push prices lower. -BR On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Michael Voorhis <mvoorhis(a)cs.wpi.edu>wrote: > Oops; "net-without-cable-TV." Or telephone. i.e., Internet ONLY. > > On 05/05/2014 11:02 PM, Michael Voorhis wrote: > > FYI; This is what your net-without-cable bill[...] > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 6, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by Michael Voorhis

Oops; "net-without-cable-TV." Or telephone. i.e., Internet ONLY. On 05/05/2014 11:02 PM, Michael Voorhis wrote: > FYI; This is what your net-without-cable bill[...]

May 6, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by Michael Voorhis

FYI; This is what your net-without-cable bill will eventually look like assuming you've got your own cable-modem. http://imladris.wpi.edu/~mvoorhis/20140505-2259-CharterBill.jpg If anyone can successfully delete the "Internet Plus Upgrade" please do let us all know. I've tried. You will be subject to endless junkmail and robo-calls telling you how wonderful your life will be if you upgrade to the Charter "Triple Play." Sign up for the triple play and you will be young, again. -MCV. On 05/05/2014 08:05 PM, E Johnson wrote: > Bottom Line: $54.99 reduced now to 39.99 puts $15 in my pocket here, > which is enough for one large Tech Pizza with 2 toppings per month, > delivered here still hot, plus an extravagent tip for the delivery > guy.

May 6, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by E Johnson

Update: after visiting the Charter website, I find that their current deal is 39.99 for internet only. Internet only is the service I use. "They say" this is for New Customers Only but I am here to say It Ain't Necessarily So. I was a little tweaked when I discovered this rate, because I am a light internet user (don't download movies, don't stream, don't fileshare, etc), and I was required to pay 54.99 after the last promo deal of 44.99 (they offered ME this) expired recently. I did pay their new price for 2 months this year (for April/May service). However, after finding out that NEW customers for 30/4 internet pay only 39.99, I called to ask for a better deal. I asked for their latest Promo (which is a code word for "I know you can do better than this"). After over 1 hour of phone calls, several non-silent holds (hearing ads & the kooky Charter theme song), one billing rep, one sales rep and another billing rep because Charter dropped my (internet) call, my rate is now 39.99 for 30 down, 4 up, for 12 months after which they tell me it will revert to 54.99. This discount happened because I was quiet, respectful, peaceful, able to clearly and calmly explain my position and customer history, and expressed appreciation for each of these these reps for doing their jobs, without being effusive. Being on Musical and Advertisement Hold several times during these calls was rather annoying, but the phone reps were attentive and nice, and did what need doen. Bottom Line: $54.99 reduced now to 39.99 puts $15 in my pocket here, which is enough for one large Tech Pizza with 2 toppings per month, delivered here still hot, plus an extravagent tip for the delivery guy. So Rich, if you get a nice promo for a year for whatever you need & then the bill goes up, Do Call Back Negotiate. This is not the first time I have obtained a promo from Charter after my last promo expired. A final note: I haven't been able to contact Charter by their usual number for around a year or more, but the corporate office number also works and the menu will direct you to whatever department is needed, including Billing, which is where I started on my latest & greatest journey with them this eve. 314 965 0555. Anchovies & Black Olives, & Good Luck to Rich. 88s over & out, Liz J On 5 May 2014 17:48, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Charter is probably the only viable option. > > Depending on what you need (TV or not? Phone or not? Or just internet), > you can probably get a promotion with a price that will remain fixed for > 1-2 years. Whether or not you need a "package" or only internet, ask the > customer service (sales) Rep to find you a promotion. > > I'm paying 54 now for only internet, which can run 30 mb down and I think > 5 up. This is up from a one-year promo for which I was paying 44. When I > check the download speeds, it usually comes down at around 35 mb. > > Internet analysis test (the Netalyzer at USC Berkley I think) is very > comprehensive and has been giving good reports. Once Charter got some line > issues fixed in the neighborhood about 2 years ago, the Netalyzer tests > come out very good. The only complaint that Netalyzer notices is that the > buffer is somewhat too big, but usually things work okay, even in > packet-sensitive applications such as Skype. But maybe that is my router or > something. Maybe the modem (which I own). > > Welcome back to Woo. > > Liz J > > > On 5 May 2014 16:44, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > >> I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL >> when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, >> and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and >> the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good >> website to find an ISP? >> >> -- >> Thanks! >> Rich >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >

May 6, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 127, Issue 4

by David Hardy

Agreed on Charter being the only choice for Woostuh, where I lived and worked through the glorious 1980s and again briefly 2006-06 and 2010. That wottuh problem under Southbridge Street is due primarily to runoff from the hills above it PLUS the Blackstone River tributary which they built the street and 290 over back when. Regards from Saint Albans Bay, VT Dave On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:49 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. OT: Looking for ISP (Richard Klein) > 2. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net) > 3. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (Richard Klein) > 4. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (Chuck Anderson) > 5. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (JeffA Maillists) > 6. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (E Johnson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:44:23 -0400 > From: Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> > Subject: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <CA+_Advnq5hzRLj=Hc9Mmn6cm+yPuK= > upsUxGNk5uJMwZCAcrWQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, > and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and > the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > website to find an ISP? > > -- > Thanks! > Rich > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20140505/b35e6d01/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:16:34 -0400 (EDT) > From: "dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net" <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > 518168341.88775.1399324600492.JavaMail.vpopmail(a)webmail1.networksolutionsemail.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I live in the same general area (Malvern Rd) and your choice is either > Verizon > DSL or Charter Cable. I used Verizon DSL and found it to be really > SLOOWWWW. > The switching office is too far away for fast speeds. I use charter and > I get > 30 mb download. It is more reliable than Verizon. The phone trunk lines > run > under southbridge street and there is a severe water problem along that > route. > One time my phone and dsl was out for three days. > -David > > On May 5, 2014 at 4:44 PM Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > > > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for > DSL > > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, > and > > the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and > the > > Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > website > > to find an ISP? > > > > -- > > Thanks! > > Rich > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20140505/7a6d922a/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:18:44 -0400 > From: Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP > To: "dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net" <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net>, > Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <CA+_AdvmAh-+k7C+9ktUhr=f2BeHtVf1_ioHyKgameafZ= > SOVOw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks David! Do you know anything about data caps for Charter? > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:16 PM, dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net < > dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> wrote: > > > I live in the same general area (Malvern Rd) and your choice is either > > Verizon DSL or Charter Cable. I used Verizon DSL and found it to be > really > > SLOOWWWW. The switching office is too far away for fast speeds. I use > > charter and I get 30 mb download. It is more reliable than Verizon. The > > phone trunk lines run under southbridge street and there is a severe > water > > problem along that route. One time my phone and dsl was out for three > > days. > > -David > > > > On May 5, 2014 at 4:44 PM Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > > > > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for > DSL > > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, > > and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, > and > > the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > > website to find an ISP? > > > > -- > > Thanks! > > Rich > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20140505/093d8c96/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:23:42 -0400 > From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <20140505212341.GR16992(a)angus.ind.WPI.EDU> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Don't forget to fix bufferbloat. A lot of complaints people have with > ISPs is probably due to high latencies under load caused by > bufferbloat. You can fix bufferbloat by running either CeroWrt or a > "Barrier Breaker" development release of OpenWrt. Check here to see > if you have bufferbloat and how to fix it: > > http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Quick_Test_for_Bufferbloat > > On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 05:16:34PM -0400, dglaser(a)glaserresearch.netwrote: > > I live in the same general area (Malvern Rd) and your choice is either > Verizon > > DSL or Charter Cable. I used Verizon DSL and found it to be really > SLOOWWWW. > > The switching office is too far away for fast speeds. I use charter > and I get > > 30 mb download. It is more reliable than Verizon. The phone trunk > lines run > > under southbridge street and there is a severe water problem along that > route. > > One time my phone and dsl was out for three days. > > -David > > > > On May 5, 2014 at 4:44 PM Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > > > > > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for > DSL > > > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company > anymore, and > > > the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, > and the > > > Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > website > > > to find an ISP? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:38:37 -0400 > From: JeffA Maillists <jeffa.maillists(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <CALHtm4g2uf0YpWXnHgR3Zj46T= > 8jVR_9Ek4jOu7TwB7XAOVMCw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > When I recently moved back to Worc, the options were: DSL or Cable > internet. > > DSL wasn't an option for me (IMHO), because the speed was predicted to be > "as high as" 3Mbps on my street, so I reluctantly went with cable > internet. The only cable provider in the city is Charter. > > It's no match for the FiOS internet I had in Marlborough, but it's better > than DSL. > > Charter's advertised speed is 30Mbps, but I occasionally see upwards of > 40Mbps. Upload is capped at 4.2Mbps. > > Jeff > On May 5, 2014 4:46 PM, "Richard Klein" <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > > > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL > > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, > > and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, > and > > the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > > website to find an ISP? > > > > -- > > Thanks! > > Rich > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20140505/3ca5fbba/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:48:51 -0400 > From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CABmZTj1T7fQyZbPvfLD0-qhwdRtuNSoaw68kjfXgEnx73Wj35A(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Charter is probably the only viable option. > > Depending on what you need (TV or not? Phone or not? Or just internet), you > can probably get a promotion with a price that will remain fixed for 1-2 > years. Whether or not you need a "package" or only internet, ask the > customer service (sales) Rep to find you a promotion. > > I'm paying 54 now for only internet, which can run 30 mb down and I think 5 > up. This is up from a one-year promo for which I was paying 44. When I > check the download speeds, it usually comes down at around 35 mb. > > Internet analysis test (the Netalyzer at USC Berkley I think) is very > comprehensive and has been giving good reports. Once Charter got some line > issues fixed in the neighborhood about 2 years ago, the Netalyzer tests > come out very good. The only complaint that Netalyzer notices is that the > buffer is somewhat too big, but usually things work okay, even in > packet-sensitive applications such as Skype. But maybe that is my router or > something. Maybe the modem (which I own). > > Welcome back to Woo. > > Liz J > > > On 5 May 2014 16:44, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > > > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL > > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, > > and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, > and > > the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > > website to find an ISP? > > > > -- > > Thanks! > > Rich > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20140505/acd3debf/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 127, Issue 4 > ************************************ > -- Sent from whatever machine I might be on right now.

May 5, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by E Johnson

Charter is probably the only viable option. Depending on what you need (TV or not? Phone or not? Or just internet), you can probably get a promotion with a price that will remain fixed for 1-2 years. Whether or not you need a "package" or only internet, ask the customer service (sales) Rep to find you a promotion. I'm paying 54 now for only internet, which can run 30 mb down and I think 5 up. This is up from a one-year promo for which I was paying 44. When I check the download speeds, it usually comes down at around 35 mb. Internet analysis test (the Netalyzer at USC Berkley I think) is very comprehensive and has been giving good reports. Once Charter got some line issues fixed in the neighborhood about 2 years ago, the Netalyzer tests come out very good. The only complaint that Netalyzer notices is that the buffer is somewhat too big, but usually things work okay, even in packet-sensitive applications such as Skype. But maybe that is my router or something. Maybe the modem (which I own). Welcome back to Woo. Liz J On 5 May 2014 16:44, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, > and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and > the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > website to find an ISP? > > -- > Thanks! > Rich > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 5, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by JeffA Maillists

When I recently moved back to Worc, the options were: DSL or Cable internet. DSL wasn't an option for me (IMHO), because the speed was predicted to be "as high as" 3Mbps on my street, so I reluctantly went with cable internet. The only cable provider in the city is Charter. It's no match for the FiOS internet I had in Marlborough, but it's better than DSL. Charter's advertised speed is 30Mbps, but I occasionally see upwards of 40Mbps. Upload is capped at 4.2Mbps. Jeff On May 5, 2014 4:46 PM, "Richard Klein" <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, > and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and > the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > website to find an ISP? > > -- > Thanks! > Rich > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 5, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by Chuck Anderson

Don't forget to fix bufferbloat. A lot of complaints people have with ISPs is probably due to high latencies under load caused by bufferbloat. You can fix bufferbloat by running either CeroWrt or a "Barrier Breaker" development release of OpenWrt. Check here to see if you have bufferbloat and how to fix it: http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Quick_Test_for_Bufferbloat On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 05:16:34PM -0400, dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net wrote: > I live in the same general area (Malvern Rd) and your choice is either Verizon > DSL or Charter Cable. I used Verizon DSL and found it to be really SLOOWWWW. > The switching office is too far away for fast speeds. I use charter and I get > 30 mb download. It is more reliable than Verizon. The phone trunk lines run > under southbridge street and there is a severe water problem along that route. > One time my phone and dsl was out for three days. > -David > > On May 5, 2014 at 4:44 PM Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > > > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL > > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, and > > the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and the > > Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good website > > to find an ISP?

May 5, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by Richard Klein

Thanks David! Do you know anything about data caps for Charter? On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:16 PM, dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net < dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> wrote: > I live in the same general area (Malvern Rd) and your choice is either > Verizon DSL or Charter Cable. I used Verizon DSL and found it to be really > SLOOWWWW. The switching office is too far away for fast speeds. I use > charter and I get 30 mb download. It is more reliable than Verizon. The > phone trunk lines run under southbridge street and there is a severe water > problem along that route. One time my phone and dsl was out for three > days. > -David > > On May 5, 2014 at 4:44 PM Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, > and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and > the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > website to find an ISP? > > -- > Thanks! > Rich > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 5, 2014

Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP

by dglaser＠glaserresearch.net

I live in the same general area (Malvern Rd) and your choice is either Verizon DSL or Charter Cable. I used Verizon DSL and found it to be really SLOOWWWW. The switching office is too far away for fast speeds. I use charter and I get 30 mb download. It is more reliable than Verizon. The phone trunk lines run under southbridge street and there is a severe water problem along that route. One time my phone and dsl was out for three days. -David On May 5, 2014 at 4:44 PM Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, and > the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and the > Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good website > to find an ISP? > > -- > Thanks! > Rich > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 5, 2014

OT: Looking for ISP

by Richard Klein

I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good website to find an ISP? -- Thanks! Rich

May 5, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 127, Issue 2

by Kevin Harrington NR

Hi folks! I will be introducing OpenSCAD, a DSL for CAD modeling. It is a finite, functional scripting language that outputs shapes ready for 3d printing. It has a C like syntax that is parsed into an OpenCSG tree, that is then compiled down to a .stl triangular mesh. It supports all source code version control unlike most 3d design software, and also has a powerful library system for modular designing. If you install it ahead of time (or when you get here) i can do a live coding walk through. http://www.openscad.org/ http://www.openscad.org/cheatsheet/ On May 3, 2014 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Announce: May meeting? Yes! See the Technocopia hackerspace. > (Chuck Anderson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 18:43:00 -0400 > From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: [Wlug] Announce: May meeting? Yes! See the Technocopia > hackerspace. > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <20140502224300.GH16992(a)angus.ind.WPI.EDU> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Kevin Harrington has volunteered to give WLUG a tour of Technocopia, a > new maker/hacker space just a few blocks from campus. He's also > volunteered to talk about a programming language I forget the name of. > I figure we could meet in the Campus Center, and then walk down to > Technocopia. > > So here's the plan: > > WLUG Meeting Thursday, May 8 2014. > > 7:00 PM meet at WPI Campus Center, Chairman's Room. > > 7:15 PM or so, head down to Technocopia, 95 Prescott Street, > Worcester, MA 01605 > > More information about the hackerspace is available here: > > http://technocopia.org/ > > We'll go out for pizza afterwards. > > On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 03:35:01PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > So is the may meeting going to be on the 8th? > > > > If so.. does anybody have a burning desire to talk about something? > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 828 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20140502/e31c07b4/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 127, Issue 2 > ************************************ >

May 3, 2014

Announce: May meeting? Yes! See the Technocopia hackerspace.

by Chuck Anderson

Kevin Harrington has volunteered to give WLUG a tour of Technocopia, a new maker/hacker space just a few blocks from campus. He's also volunteered to talk about a programming language I forget the name of. I figure we could meet in the Campus Center, and then walk down to Technocopia. So here's the plan: WLUG Meeting Thursday, May 8 2014. 7:00 PM meet at WPI Campus Center, Chairman's Room. 7:15 PM or so, head down to Technocopia, 95 Prescott Street, Worcester, MA 01605 More information about the hackerspace is available here: http://technocopia.org/ We'll go out for pizza afterwards. On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 03:35:01PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > So is the may meeting going to be on the 8th? > > If so.. does anybody have a burning desire to talk about something? > > Thanks, > Tim.

May 2, 2014

May meeting?

by Tim Keller

So is the may meeting going to be on the 8th? If so.. does anybody have a burning desire to talk about something? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

May 1, 2014

Fedora Next

by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com

Recently I decided to try to get my program Bt Builder into Fedora (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1079064) They identified some issues during review which I've fixed. Initially I didn't do the "introdution" email to the devel because I was joining to package my project and eventually maybe some others. I did eventually join the list and send the email. However I've also been reading the Fedora Present and Future articles on the Fedora Magazine site http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-present-and-future-a-fedora-next-2014-upda… It's left me wondering if I should bother going with sponsorship into Fedora. I can setup a COPR and perhaps move into the distribution via the Playground. Do you Fedora will continue with the current sponsorship model? Will new projects instead come in through the personal repositories of COPR?

April 29, 2014

Lightning Talks @ LOPSA-East 2014!

by Evan Pettrey

LOPSA East 2014 starts in one week! All the talks have been scheduled, all the tutorials and instructors have been book, now all you need to do is show up, right? In http://scottberkun.com/essays/24-how-to-get-the-most-out-of-conferences/ Scott Berkun (author of five books, including _The Year Without Pants_) states: "There is no better way to meet others and access the most interesting and friendly people than participating." The good news is that even this late in the game, there's still a way you you to participate: Lightning Talks! Lightning Talks are a series of five-minute talks (no slides!) where enthusiasm is paramount and almost anything that might be of interest to sysadmins is on-topic. Have an idea for a talk or tutorial for a future conference you want to try out? Give a Lightning Talk. Want to share a cool new trick with your peers? Give a Lightning Talk. Have an idea for a tool and want feedback? Give a Lightning Talk. Want to convince your peers to change how they do their jobs, or quit their jobs, or not to make the same mistake you did, or step away from the keyboard and learn to cook? Give a Lightning Talk. The Lightning Talks session is Saturday, May 3rd, at 3:30 p.m. There's room for at least nine talks, more if people use fewer than their allotted time (five minutes). To sign up for a Lightning Talk, send email to <lightningtalks(a)lopsaeast.org> or contact the Lightning Talks coordinator (Adam Moskowitz) at the conference and sign up in person. Talk slots are on a first-come, first-served basis; there will be a waiting list, and if there's time at the end of the session you can just step up to the microphone without signing up in advance (but don't count on this as all the slots are usually taken). Remember: Five minutes (hard limit), no slides, pretty much any topic. Yes, even cooking -- if you can find a way to tie it to system administration. There's no easier way to actively participate in the conference than to give a Lightning Talk! Best regards, Evan & the rest of the LOPSA-East Committee

April 25, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Tripwire vs rpm -V

by Eric Martin

Thanks! On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 06:17:45AM -0400, Eric Martin wrote: > I have a weird problem with tripwire on at least two of my servers. A run > of tripwire --check shows a few tripwire binaries have changed, which since > I didn't do it is very suspicious: > I expect twpol.txt to be changed since you update the policy. What is / > isn't missing is the glaring alert that tripwire doesn't match the RPM. > Also, the MD5 sum in tripwire on one machine doesn't match it on another, > and neither do the SHA1 sums as computed from the command line. While I'm > pretty good with CentOS, there are a few things that I'm still learning so > I'm thinking that I'm missing something here. Can anybody please shed some > light on this, especially the differing sha1sums? If these are binaries, > shouldn't they have the same sha1um? One word. Prelink. rpm -V undoes the prelink on-the-fly to be able to checksum the original unmodified binary. > Also, do I need to blow away this machine and rebuild? No, but you may want to un-prelink all your binaries and then disable prelink from running again. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 18, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Tripwire vs rpm -V

by Chuck Anderson

On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 06:17:45AM -0400, Eric Martin wrote: > I have a weird problem with tripwire on at least two of my servers. A run > of tripwire --check shows a few tripwire binaries have changed, which since > I didn't do it is very suspicious: > I expect twpol.txt to be changed since you update the policy. What is / > isn't missing is the glaring alert that tripwire doesn't match the RPM. > Also, the MD5 sum in tripwire on one machine doesn't match it on another, > and neither do the SHA1 sums as computed from the command line. While I'm > pretty good with CentOS, there are a few things that I'm still learning so > I'm thinking that I'm missing something here. Can anybody please shed some > light on this, especially the differing sha1sums? If these are binaries, > shouldn't they have the same sha1um? One word. Prelink. rpm -V undoes the prelink on-the-fly to be able to checksum the original unmodified binary. > Also, do I need to blow away this machine and rebuild? No, but you may want to un-prelink all your binaries and then disable prelink from running again.

April 18, 2014

Tripwire vs rpm -V

by Eric Martin

I have a weird problem with tripwire on at least two of my servers. A run of tripwire --check shows a few tripwire binaries have changed, which since I didn't do it is very suspicious: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rule Name: Tripwire Binaries (/usr/sbin/tripwire) Severity Level: 100 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- Modified Objects: 1 ---------------------------------------- Modified object name: /usr/sbin/tripwire Property: Expected Observed ------------- ----------- ----------- Object Type Regular File Regular File Device Number 64768 64768 * Inode Number 9698 10390 Mode -rwxr-xr-x -rwxr-xr-x Num Links 1 1 UID root (0) root (0) GID root (0) root (0) Size 1145520 1145520 Modify Time Mon 05 Jul 2010 08:55:49 PM EDT Mon 05 Jul 2010 08:55:49 PM EDT Blocks 2240 2240 * CRC32 XXXXX YYYYY * MD5 XXXXXXXXXXMJedgAef0 XXXXXXXXXXPFRiVSdGoG/q The inode number is fine, it's the CRC32 and MD5 sums that worry me. As per my usual procedure, I then issue rpm -V ${PACKAGE_NAME} to verify the package: [emartin@mx1 ~]$ sudo rpm -V tripwire S.5....T. c /etc/tripwire/twpol.txt I expect twpol.txt to be changed since you update the policy. What is / isn't missing is the glaring alert that tripwire doesn't match the RPM. Also, the MD5 sum in tripwire on one machine doesn't match it on another, and neither do the SHA1 sums as computed from the command line. While I'm pretty good with CentOS, there are a few things that I'm still learning so I'm thinking that I'm missing something here. Can anybody please shed some light on this, especially the differing sha1sums? If these are binaries, shouldn't they have the same sha1um? Also, do I need to blow away this machine and rebuild? TIA, -- Eric Martin

April 18, 2014

"Heartbleed" OpenSSL bug in pictures

by Chuck Anderson

Today's XKCD comic explains in pictures how the "Heartbleed" OpenSSL bug works: http://xkcd.com/1354/

April 12, 2014

Mail User Agent: mail (/bin/mail)

by Larry Camilli

This message has two parts. The first is about the basic mail program. The second (which is more important to me) is about how to avoid having to use the mail program. Part I: The Basic mail program (I'm running CentOS.) I asked last night about the basic mail program - specifically about navigating through the headers. Chuck looked up some documentation and said that the "h+" and "h-" commands should do it. And, somebody came up to me with his laptop and showed the "z" command.) Here's what the help file within mail shows about the "z" command: (Yes. -It says nothing about the z command.) Here's what I found with the h+ and h- commands: When I invoke mail, it displays the headers of 38 unread messages (numbers 1 - 38) and a prompt ("&"). (The terminal window is 132 characters wide by 42 lines long.) If I type h+, it displays the same 38 headers again. (h- gets "Referencing before 1") If I type h7865782365, I get "Invalid message number". If I type h 1-a, I get "Non-numeric second argument". If I type h 1-4, I get the first 38 headers. The program seems to be parsing what follows an "h", but royally screws up acting on what it finds. If I type "39", I get message 39. (There doesn't seem to be a "LAST" command to see the last message - and find out its number. So, typing, say, 100, gets an error because there's no such message.) Anyway, after viewing message 39, if I THEN type h, it shows headers for messages 39 - 51. (h+ shows the same headers, 39 - 51.) But, h- now shows the first 38. (That makes sense.) But, after using h- to get back to the 1 - 38 list, h+ shows the first 38 messages again. After displaying the first 38 headers, the "z" command DOES cause the next set of headers to be displayed (39 - 51). I figured that, until I figure out how to set things up to forward the logwatch mail to a gmail account, I could tolerate using a separate, basic mail program to check the logs. But, this is crap. People were asking about the guy who screwed up the OpenSSL heartbeat code. What about the guy who wrote this piece of crap? It's very basic stuff that doesn't work. Not too difficult to test... Part II: Getting EMail Forwarded from the Linux System as a Client I have two interests here. One is just academic. -Understanding how to use the mail program, despite (or because of) its suckiness. The other is so I can see the messages that the log scrapers send via /bin/mail to the root account's email. Ideally, I would set things up to have all of root's email get forwarded to, say, a gmail account. But, my setup seems to place some limits on what I can do. I set up an MTA on my VMS box long ago. I used to be able to send email directly from that system. But, it stopped working at some point, and I found that Verizon reports all of the DHCP addresses that they allocate to residential DSL customers as spam sources, so everything was getting blocked. I have written programs (in PHP) that use a PEAR class/API to send email from the Linux box, via a gmail account, to arbitrary addressees. [It requires such information as host (smtp.gmail.com) port (587), username & password for the gmail account...] So, I'm not sure if an MTA is what I really need. Can at MTA be set up to send email as a client of sorts to a real MTA (e.g., google mail)? Or do I need some other type of utility? Sure, I can write my own, but I would hope that somebody else has already done it. (Well, as long as it's not the person who wrote "mail".)

April 11, 2014

Sr SW Engineer contract openings - C++, Linux kernel, drivers

by John Spencer

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April 10, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Simpleton Question

by Colin Novick

Mike, You rock! The embedded player won't play, but that is a problem in part due to the content provider, BUT now I can download it (which was the desired end point anyways) and use a standalone player! FANTASTIC! David, I am also playing around with the Flash Video option, thanks for the tip. You guys are awesome. Thank you for taking pity on me. Colin On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Mike Peckar <fog(a)fognet.com> wrote: > Hey Colin! > > > > The download helper plug-in for firefox should at least deal with the > permissions issues... > > > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/ > > > > Mike > > > > *From:* wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] *On > Behalf Of *Colin Novick > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:47 PM > *To:* Worcester Linux Users Group > *Subject:* [Wlug] Simpleton Question > > > > WLUG folk, > > You guys crunch heavy issues, and I have a cream puff of an issue I just > can't crack, and I am not too ashamed to admit it. > > There is a site with a series of m4v (Quicktime) files I want to be able > to at least stream, if not download, but I have two problems. > > The first is that the site www.worcestercatholictv.com has set the > permissions on the files so that they will only play embedded in their > webpage, AND they have the files as invisible unless the embedded web page > searches for them, and as a result, standalone items like VLC can't touch > it, and I can't download it. > > The second is that the issue seems to be related to my running Ubuntu > 12.0.4 LTS, and a buddy is having no issues reportedly in 13.X > > It makes no difference if it is Chromium of Firefox that tries to playback. > > Default User Agent Switcher has been installed to see if that was > generating a conflict, but that doesn't seem to be it either. > > Totem 3.0.1 > > Gecko-mediaplayer 1.0.4 > > I have searched for similar issues and don't seem to come up with anything. > > I have scanned help files and that doesn't seem to address this either. > > At this point, if I had a guess, it is the result of funny permissions on > a file that no one is worried about being Linux compatible. > > Thoughts are most welcome, > > Colin > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

April 9, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Simpleton Question

by David Glaser

Colin, There is a plugin for Firefox called "Flash Video Downloader" that will download videos that are currently playing on a web page. -David On 04/08/2014 09:46 PM, Colin Novick wrote: > WLUG folk, > > You guys crunch heavy issues, and I have a cream puff of an issue I > just can't crack, and I am not too ashamed to admit it. > > There is a site with a series of m4v (Quicktime) files I want to be > able to at least stream, if not download, but I have two problems. > > The first is that the site www.worcestercatholictv.com > <http://www.worcestercatholictv.com> has set the permissions on the > files so that they will only play embedded in their webpage, AND they > have the files as invisible unless the embedded web page searches for > them, and as a result, standalone items like VLC can't touch it, and I > can't download it. > > The second is that the issue seems to be related to my running Ubuntu > 12.0.4 LTS, and a buddy is having no issues reportedly in 13.X > > It makes no difference if it is Chromium of Firefox that tries to > playback. > > Default User Agent Switcher has been installed to see if that was > generating a conflict, but that doesn't seem to be it either. > > Totem 3.0.1 > Gecko-mediaplayer 1.0.4 > > I have searched for similar issues and don't seem to come up with > anything. > I have scanned help files and that doesn't seem to address this either. > > At this point, if I had a guess, it is the result of funny permissions > on a file that no one is worried about being Linux compatible. > > Thoughts are most welcome, > > Colin > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 9, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Simpleton Question

by Mike Peckar

Hey Colin! The download helper plug-in for firefox should at least deal with the permissions issues. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/ Mike From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Colin Novick Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:47 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Simpleton Question WLUG folk, You guys crunch heavy issues, and I have a cream puff of an issue I just can't crack, and I am not too ashamed to admit it. There is a site with a series of m4v (Quicktime) files I want to be able to at least stream, if not download, but I have two problems. The first is that the site www.worcestercatholictv.com has set the permissions on the files so that they will only play embedded in their webpage, AND they have the files as invisible unless the embedded web page searches for them, and as a result, standalone items like VLC can't touch it, and I can't download it. The second is that the issue seems to be related to my running Ubuntu 12.0.4 LTS, and a buddy is having no issues reportedly in 13.X It makes no difference if it is Chromium of Firefox that tries to playback. Default User Agent Switcher has been installed to see if that was generating a conflict, but that doesn't seem to be it either. Totem 3.0.1 Gecko-mediaplayer 1.0.4 I have searched for similar issues and don't seem to come up with anything. I have scanned help files and that doesn't seem to address this either. At this point, if I had a guess, it is the result of funny permissions on a file that no one is worried about being Linux compatible. Thoughts are most welcome, Colin

April 9, 2014

Simpleton Question

by Colin Novick

WLUG folk, You guys crunch heavy issues, and I have a cream puff of an issue I just can't crack, and I am not too ashamed to admit it. There is a site with a series of m4v (Quicktime) files I want to be able to at least stream, if not download, but I have two problems. The first is that the site www.worcestercatholictv.com has set the permissions on the files so that they will only play embedded in their webpage, AND they have the files as invisible unless the embedded web page searches for them, and as a result, standalone items like VLC can't touch it, and I can't download it. The second is that the issue seems to be related to my running Ubuntu 12.0.4 LTS, and a buddy is having no issues reportedly in 13.X It makes no difference if it is Chromium of Firefox that tries to playback. Default User Agent Switcher has been installed to see if that was generating a conflict, but that doesn't seem to be it either. Totem 3.0.1 Gecko-mediaplayer 1.0.4 I have searched for similar issues and don't seem to come up with anything. I have scanned help files and that doesn't seem to address this either. At this point, if I had a guess, it is the result of funny permissions on a file that no one is worried about being Linux compatible. Thoughts are most welcome, Colin

April 9, 2014

Re: [Wlug] WLUG meeting Thu April 10 7PM

by Jeff Moyer

Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > Thanks Chunk! I'll update the facebook group! ^^^^^ lol! Been watching Goonies lately, Tim? =P -Jeff

April 8, 2014

Re: [Wlug] WLUG meeting Thu April 10 7PM

by Tim Keller

Thanks Chunk! I'll update the facebook group! On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Thanks for the reminder. I updated the website last night, then got > sucked into OpenSSL suckiness. That may be a good topic to talk > about. > > So, yes there is a WLUG meeting this Thursday, April 10, at 7PM, in > the WPI Campus Center Mid-Century room (our usual room). > > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 05:15:41AM -0700, The Hammer wrote: > > Tim, > > > > I'm not an "official" and figured I'd reply as no one has yet. I > thought the meeting times were changed to Thursdays. The website at: > > http://wlug.org/ > > Says it will be Thursday April 10th. > > Hopefully someone will confirm. > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 5:05 PM > > Subject: [Wlug] Meeting on Wednesday? > > > > > > > > I presume we're having a meeting on Wednesday? > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 8, 2014

WLUG meeting Thu April 10 7PM

by Chuck Anderson

Thanks for the reminder. I updated the website last night, then got sucked into OpenSSL suckiness. That may be a good topic to talk about. So, yes there is a WLUG meeting this Thursday, April 10, at 7PM, in the WPI Campus Center Mid-Century room (our usual room). On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 05:15:41AM -0700, The Hammer wrote: > Tim, > > I'm not an "official" and figured I'd reply as no one has yet. I thought the meeting times were changed to Thursdays. The website at: > http://wlug.org/ > Says it will be Thursday April 10th. > Hopefully someone will confirm. > > Ron > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 5:05 PM > Subject: [Wlug] Meeting on Wednesday? > > > > I presume we're having a meeting on Wednesday? > > Thanks, > Tim.

April 8, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Meeting on Wednesday?

by The Hammer

Tim, I'm not an "official" and figured I'd reply as no one has yet. I thought the meeting times were changed to Thursdays. The website at: http://wlug.org/ Says it will be Thursday April 10th. Hopefully someone will confirm. Ron ________________________________ From: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 5:05 PM Subject: [Wlug] Meeting on Wednesday? I presume we're having a meeting on Wednesday? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 8, 2014

Meeting on Wednesday?

by Tim Keller

I presume we're having a meeting on Wednesday? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 7, 2014

LOPSA-East Keynotes Announced!

by Evan Pettrey

Hello once again folks, LOPSA-East is proud to announce this year's keynote speakers! Friday evening Keynote: Vish Ishaya, CTO of Nebula Inc. Title: OpenStack in the Datacenter For better or worse, cloud is arriving in the datacenter. The massive growth of OpenStack is paving the way for an onslaught of private clouds. Cloud will be the second datacenter revolution this century. Virtualization changed the way that machines are provisioned and managed, and cloud promises an even more radical set of changes. Come hear Vish discuss the history of OpenStack, cloud versus virtualization, and get guidance for dealing with the specific challenges that cloud creates for system administrators! Bio: Vish Ishaya is Chief Technology Officer of Nebula, Inc. He is a highly prolific developer who was one of the founding engineers of OpenStack. He was elected to the first OpenStack Technical Committee, where he has served consistently since. He was also elected to four consecutive terms as the OpenStack Compute Project Technical Lead and is currently on the board of OpenStack Foundation. In addition to his programming and systems skills, Vish has spent over a decade teaching, most recently classes in object oriented analysis and design. Saturday closing Keynote: Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph Title: Universal Design for Tech: Improving Gender Diversity in our Industry Universal Design is a principle in accessibility thataccessible design makes things better for everyone. A key example of which are curb cuts and door openers which help those who are disabled but also folks with luggage and parents with strollers. Elizabeth will discuss ideas on how to improve gender diversity in our industry, but many of the tips will help everyone beyond improvements that come through diversity. From offering formal education for systems administration to offering flexible schedules and work arrangements, there are many things that can be done to attract much-needed talent. Bio: Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph is an Automation and Tools Engineer at HP working on the OpenStack Infrastructure team. She has been involved with open source communities for over a decade and turned that passion into a profession when she began working as a professional systems administrator in 2006. In addition to her work on OpenStack, she is a member of the Ubuntu Community Council and is a co-author of the upcoming 8th edition of The Official Ubuntu Book. At home, she serves on Board of Directors for Partimus.org, a non-profit in the San Francisco Bay Area providing Linux-based computers to schools in need. LOPSA-East is a regional sysadmin conference in New Brunswick NJ, May 2-3, 2014. Two days of world-class training on a diverse range of topics plus community-selected talks: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/schedule Best, Evan & the rest of the LOPSA-East 2014 Committee http://lopsa-east.org/2014 Register today!

April 3, 2014

Re: [Wlug] LOPSA-East Early Bird Deadline Extended!

by Keith Wright

William Bilancio <promote(a)lopsa-east.org> writes: Does anybody know this "promote" guy? I'm not good with names, but I think I know his brother "no-reply". > Great news everybody! > > Don't miss this great value - register today! He's pretty bossy, but I don't have to if I don't want. -- Keith

March 24, 2014

LOPSA-East Early Bird Deadline Extended!

by William Bilancio

Great news everybody! We have recieved a number of requests to extend discounted pricing from people either waiting on approval from their boss, or who just didn't get a chance to register beefore today. We've decided to give everybody one final opportunity to register at this greatly discounted rate - Early Bird pricing will be honored through Monday, March 31st. Don't miss this great value - register today! LOPSA-East is a regional sysadmin conference in New Brunswick NJ, May 2-3, 2014. Two days of world-class training on a diverse range of topics plus community-selected talks: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/schedule Best, William, Evan, & the rest of the LOPSA-East 2014 Committee http://lopsa-east.org/2014 Register today!

March 24, 2014

LOPSA-East Exclusive! Sneak peek at Tom Limoncelli's new book!

by Evan Pettrey

Did you hear? Tom Limoncelli has announced a new book and the only conference to get a sneak preview will be LOPSA-East! You may know Tom as the author of "Time Management for System Administrators" and co-author of "The Practice of System and Network Administration". We're very excited that he has selected our conference for this! The announcement is here: http://everythingsysadmin.com/2014/03/sneak-preview.html LOPSA-East is a regional sysadmin conference in New Brunswick NJ, May 2-3, 2014. Two days of world-class training on a diverse range of topics plus community-selected talks: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/schedule Looking forward to seeing you all there! Best, Evan & the rest of the LOPSA-East 2014 Committee http://lopsa-east.org/2014 Register today!

March 24, 2014

Early Bird Discount Reminder! LOPSA-East SysAdmin Conference, May 2-3 2014, New Brunswick, NJ

by Evan Pettrey

Greetings! Just a reminder to everybody that the Early Bird Discount to LOPSA-East 2014 registrations ends on Sunday, March 23rd at 11:59pm - Register now before it's too late! http://lopsa-east.org/2014/register-for-lopsa-east-14 LOPSA-East is a regional sysadmin conference in New Brunswick NJ, May 2-3, 2014. Two days of world-class training on a diverse range of topics plus community-selected talks on everything from Active Directory to Code Review for Sys Admins! We have a very exciting lineup of tutorials and talks this year, you can find all of the exciting content at: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/schedule/ Looking forward to seeing you all there! Best, Evan & the rest of the LOPSA-East 2014 Committee

March 18, 2014

OPENING - Jr SW Engineer - C, Linux kernel - direct hire in Waltham, MA

by John Spencer

Our client in Waltham, MA has a direct hire opening for a Software Engineer with 0-3 yrs of commercial design and development experience. Must be able to interview and work on-site. Our client cannot sponsor visas at this time. Jr Software Engineer Software Engineer with relevant Linux Driver experience. Responsible for design, develop and test of Linux drivers for high-speed network/communication products. Required: - BSCS/BSEE - Hands-on experience developing and interfacing with Linux drivers - Experience with Linux kernel and strong C background - Experience implementing Linux for TCP/IP Ethernet and related Please send your resume to jspencer@connectedsp (dot) com Your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies Office: 978-455-5550 x208 Cell: 978-621-9743 jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

March 14, 2014

Re: [Wlug] HOWTO debug Ubuntu boot hang

by Randall Mason

On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:16 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Andy> I've got a version of Ubuntu 13.10 in my Virtualbox OSE virtual > Andy> computer. It hangs very early in the boot. GRUB runs and the > Andy> boot starts. > > I've moved to Linux Mint myself, but it's based on Ubuntu and I've > noticed that my main desktop, which NFS mounts home dirs and other > stuff, takes *forever* to actually boot not. There's something in the > setup which hangs for five minutes or so (not sure, I just walk away > right now cause I rarely reboot the box...) before it continues. > > Have you just let the boot sit there to see if it ever finishes? I've > been meaning to turn on verbose debugging to try and figure out what's > going on too, but it's a low priority. I find that fstab is also often a problem. If it's waiting for /dev/sdb1 to show up, or a specific UUID. Maybe comment out anything not required for boot. Also, if you're at the console, comment out your whole /etc/network/interfaces and see if that helps. Ubuntu often waits on block devices and network, so it could be either of those. Randall Mason clashthebunny(a)gmail.com

March 14, 2014

Re: [Wlug] HOWTO debug Ubuntu boot hang

by John Stoffel

Andy> I've got a version of Ubuntu 13.10 in my Virtualbox OSE virtual Andy> computer. It hangs very early in the boot. GRUB runs and the Andy> boot starts. I've moved to Linux Mint myself, but it's based on Ubuntu and I've noticed that my main desktop, which NFS mounts home dirs and other stuff, takes *forever* to actually boot not. There's something in the setup which hangs for five minutes or so (not sure, I just walk away right now cause I rarely reboot the box...) before it continues. Have you just let the boot sit there to see if it ever finishes? I've been meaning to turn on verbose debugging to try and figure out what's going on too, but it's a low priority. Andy> In /var/log/boot.log, I see the same messages as I see on the Andy> screen. I have to press ESC to see the text while the computer Andy> boots. There are perhaps 3 or 4 "Starting <service>....OK" Andy> messages, and that is all. I never get a chance to log in. So which services start? Or more accurately, which is the last service to start? Have you looked in /var/log/upstart as well? You might be able to also setup your system so that init (upstart) is started with the -v option to increase verbosity. Andy> The problem I have is that I don't know in which order the boot Andy> scripts are supposed to run. With the "old" initscripts, one Andy> would see Snn<script> or Knn<script> and the "nn" would be the Andy> number representing the order in which the scripts are "S"tarted Andy> or "K"illed. That isn't the case here. They're supposed to run according to events, not any particular order. The idea is that as things become ready, the next step can fire off more quickly, without the system getting stuck behind some hanging process. Good luck! John P.S. Another idea might be to try and boot a default 13.10 install in another VM and see how that looks in the console. It should be similiar at least, if not fairly identical. John

March 14, 2014

Re: [Wlug] HOWTO debug Ubuntu boot hang

by Michael C Voorhis

Andy Stewart writes: > Lots of details here: > http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook > My problem seems to be something to do with networking. None of the > network related services are starting. More news later..... > Andy In FreeBSD I've run into issues with this specific problem, where DHCP runs and then netowrk dependent services start before they should. The FreeBSD folks eventually remedied the problem ("SYNCDHCP" setting for network interfaces) but my initial "fix" was to edit the network start script and add a "sleep 5" or "sleep 10" line in there allowing the networking to settle. Other cures have been to insert a ping or a dig call which must succeed, before allowing the boot process to continue. MCV.

March 14, 2014

Re: [Wlug] HOWTO debug Ubuntu boot hang

by Andy Stewart

Lots of details here: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook My problem seems to be something to do with networking. None of the network related services are starting. More news later..... Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

March 14, 2014

Re: [Wlug] HOWTO debug Ubuntu boot hang

by Andy Stewart

On 03/13/2014 10:18 PM, Michael C Voorhis wrote: > Andy Stewart writes: >> The problem I have is that I don't know in which order the boot scripts >> are supposed to run. With the "old" initscripts, one would see >> Snn<script> or Knn<script> and the "nn" would be the number representing >> the order in which the scripts are "S"tarted or "K"illed. That isn't >> the case here. > > The manpage for systemd(1) has this tidbit: > >> --test >> Determine startup sequence, dump it and exit. This is an option >> useful for debugging only. > > That sounds like it might be useful. > > --MCV. > I'm not sure that Ubuntu is using systemd - yet. I'm running version 13.10. http://www.zdnet.com/after-linux-civil-war-ubuntu-to-adopt-systemd-70000263… I have a feeling that I need to figure out how to debug upstart, but I'm not sure. Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

March 14, 2014

HOWTO debug Ubuntu boot hang

by Michael C Voorhis

Andy Stewart writes: > The problem I have is that I don't know in which order the boot scripts > are supposed to run. With the "old" initscripts, one would see > Snn<script> or Knn<script> and the "nn" would be the number representing > the order in which the scripts are "S"tarted or "K"illed. That isn't > the case here. The manpage for systemd(1) has this tidbit: > --test > Determine startup sequence, dump it and exit. This is an option > useful for debugging only. That sounds like it might be useful. --MCV.

March 14, 2014

HOWTO debug Ubuntu boot hang

by Andy Stewart

HI guys, I've got a version of Ubuntu 13.10 in my Virtualbox OSE virtual computer. It hangs very early in the boot. GRUB runs and the boot starts. In /var/log/boot.log, I see the same messages as I see on the screen. I have to press ESC to see the text while the computer boots. There are perhaps 3 or 4 "Starting <service>....OK" messages, and that is all. I never get a chance to log in. The problem I have is that I don't know in which order the boot scripts are supposed to run. With the "old" initscripts, one would see Snn<script> or Knn<script> and the "nn" would be the number representing the order in which the scripts are "S"tarted or "K"illed. That isn't the case here. I've found the boot scripts in /etc/init/*.conf so I can match boot messages to scripts. However, I'm unable to determine which script got stuck since I don't know the order of execution. My version of 13.10 is customized, not stock, so I can't compare to a known good. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

March 14, 2014

Registration Reminder! LOPSA-East SysAdmin Conference, May 2-3 2014, New Brunswick, NJ

by Tom Limoncelli

Greetings! I just wanted to remind everybody about the awesome tutorials and talks we have lined up for LOPSA-East this year! Don't forget to register before the Early Bird pricing expires! LOPSA-East is a regional sysadmin conference in New Brunswick NJ, May 2-3, 2014. Two days of world-class training on a diverse range of topics plus community-selected talks on everything from DevOps to Time Management. You can find all the latest details available on our website: http://lopsa-east.org Register now at: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/register-for-lopsa-east-14 We'll see you there! Best, Tom, Evan, & the rest of the LOPSA-East 2014 Committee

March 13, 2014

Announce: WLUG Meeting Thu 3/13 7PM

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held tomorrow, Thursday, March 13 at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. Thursday, March 13, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

March 12, 2014

OPENING - Software Engineer - C, Linux kernel (2+ yrs exp.) in Waltham, MA

by John Spencer

Our client in Waltham, MA has a direct hire opening for a Software Engineer with 2-6 yrs of commercial design and development experience. They will consider more Sr level engineers, up to 12 yrs of experience. Must be able to interview and work on-site. Our client cannot sponsor visas at this time. Software Engineer Software Engineer with 2+ years' relevant Linux Driver experience. Responsible for design, develop and test of Linux drivers for high-speed network/communication products. Required: - BSCS/BSEE - 2+ years' hands-on experience developing and interfacing with Linux drivers - Experience with Linux kernel and strong C background - Experience implementing Linux for TCP/IP Ethernet and related Please send your resume to jspencer@connectedsp (dot) com Your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval

March 11, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Rancid and Quagga

by Frank Sweetser

Wild guess - is it using an ssh command that doesn't allocate a tty? Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 3/7/2014 4:16 PM, Eric Martin wrote: > Hi All, > > I recently fired up a few FreeBSD routers using Quagga, and today I went to > configure RANCID but I'm having some troubles. > > RANCID is working fine for my Juniper gear, my Cisco gear and even my APC > stuff but I can't get it to work for quagga. > > I run zrancid (for zebra stuff) and it just hangs. When you add -d you can > see that it's asking for show version and write term, but it still hangs. > When I copy / paste the commands and run them by hand with clogin, I see it > login but it just hangs after > > terminal length 0 > > When I login via ssh with the same command line that clogin passes, terminal > length 0 works fine and so do the rest of the commands. I'm stumped, does > anybody have any ideas? This however does work for my CentOS servers running > quagga. > > I'm using Quagga 0.99.22.3, and Rancid 2.3.6, which is the most recent RANCID > version on CentOS and the most recent Quagga on FreeBSD. > > ~rancid/.cloginrc: > add method *.example.net <http://example.net> ssh > add autoenable *.example.net <http://example.net> {1} > add user *.example.net <http://example.net> rancid > add password *.example.net <http://example.net> {} > (I'm using ssh keys and it's called id_rsa so that works fine). > > router.db: > ur01.example.net:zebra:up > ns1.example.net:zebra:up > > Thanks in advance, > -- > Eric Martin > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 8, 2014

Rancid and Quagga

by Eric Martin

Hi All, I recently fired up a few FreeBSD routers using Quagga, and today I went to configure RANCID but I'm having some troubles. RANCID is working fine for my Juniper gear, my Cisco gear and even my APC stuff but I can't get it to work for quagga. I run zrancid (for zebra stuff) and it just hangs. When you add -d you can see that it's asking for show version and write term, but it still hangs. When I copy / paste the commands and run them by hand with clogin, I see it login but it just hangs after terminal length 0 When I login via ssh with the same command line that clogin passes, terminal length 0 works fine and so do the rest of the commands. I'm stumped, does anybody have any ideas? This however does work for my CentOS servers running quagga. I'm using Quagga 0.99.22.3, and Rancid 2.3.6, which is the most recent RANCID version on CentOS and the most recent Quagga on FreeBSD. ~rancid/.cloginrc: add method *.example.net ssh add autoenable *.example.net {1} add user *.example.net rancid add password *.example.net {} (I'm using ssh keys and it's called id_rsa so that works fine). router.db: ur01.example.net:zebra:up ns1.example.net:zebra:up Thanks in advance, -- Eric Martin

March 7, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Great speaker on UX design next Thursday

by Caleb Stepanian

I've now acquired a ride. Cal On 2 March 2014 15:07, Caleb Stepanian <cmstepanian(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Anyone going to this that I could please carpool with (I live in Faraday > Hall on WPI campus)? I do enjoy walking, but a 4 mile round trip at night > sounds unfun. > > Cal > > > On 2 March 2014 14:01, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > >> I HIGHLY recommend going to this. I've seen Jared Spool speak awhile >> ago and was blown away. I'll probably go this Thursday. >> >> Original message translated for non-HTML/non-graphical mail readers: >> >> Sponsored by the Assumption College Mathematics and Computer Science >> Department >> >> Jared M. Spool >> >> Thursday, March 6, 2014, 7:00 PM >> Alden Trust Auditorium (Kennedy 112) >> >> A MUST SEE FOR MAJORS IN: >> Business >> Communications >> Computer Science >> Graphic Design >> Any major that uses a computer! >> >> Experience Design /is/ a competitive advantage and you need that >> advantage now. >> >> Founder of User Interface Engineering, the largest usability research >> organization of its kind in the world. >> >> Author of "Web Usability: A Designer's Guide" >> >> Co-author of "Web Anatomy: Interaction Design Frameworks that Work" >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 09:49:18PM -0500, Dick Goodman wrote: >> > Jared Spool is a dynamic speaker, and anyone interested in software >> > design ought to hear him. >> > >> > Disclaimers: >> > >> > 1) My wife is responsible for bringing him to Worcester for this >> > talk >> > >> > 2) I gave Jared his first tech job -- about 35 years ago >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >

March 4, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Great speaker on UX design next Thursday

by Caleb Stepanian

Anyone going to this that I could please carpool with (I live in Faraday Hall on WPI campus)? I do enjoy walking, but a 4 mile round trip at night sounds unfun. Cal On 2 March 2014 14:01, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > I HIGHLY recommend going to this. I've seen Jared Spool speak awhile > ago and was blown away. I'll probably go this Thursday. > > Original message translated for non-HTML/non-graphical mail readers: > > Sponsored by the Assumption College Mathematics and Computer Science > Department > > Jared M. Spool > > Thursday, March 6, 2014, 7:00 PM > Alden Trust Auditorium (Kennedy 112) > > A MUST SEE FOR MAJORS IN: > Business > Communications > Computer Science > Graphic Design > Any major that uses a computer! > > Experience Design /is/ a competitive advantage and you need that > advantage now. > > Founder of User Interface Engineering, the largest usability research > organization of its kind in the world. > > Author of "Web Usability: A Designer's Guide" > > Co-author of "Web Anatomy: Interaction Design Frameworks that Work" > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 09:49:18PM -0500, Dick Goodman wrote: > > Jared Spool is a dynamic speaker, and anyone interested in software > > design ought to hear him. > > > > Disclaimers: > > > > 1) My wife is responsible for bringing him to Worcester for this > > talk > > > > 2) I gave Jared his first tech job -- about 35 years ago > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 2, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Great speaker on UX design next Thursday

by Chuck Anderson

I HIGHLY recommend going to this. I've seen Jared Spool speak awhile ago and was blown away. I'll probably go this Thursday. Original message translated for non-HTML/non-graphical mail readers: Sponsored by the Assumption College Mathematics and Computer Science Department Jared M. Spool Thursday, March 6, 2014, 7:00 PM Alden Trust Auditorium (Kennedy 112) A MUST SEE FOR MAJORS IN: Business Communications Computer Science Graphic Design Any major that uses a computer! Experience Design /is/ a competitive advantage and you need that advantage now. Founder of User Interface Engineering, the largest usability research organization of its kind in the world. Author of "Web Usability: A Designer's Guide" Co-author of "Web Anatomy: Interaction Design Frameworks that Work" On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 09:49:18PM -0500, Dick Goodman wrote: > Jared Spool is a dynamic speaker, and anyone interested in software > design ought to hear him. > > Disclaimers: > > 1) My wife is responsible for bringing him to Worcester for this > talk > > 2) I gave Jared his first tech job -- about 35 years ago

March 2, 2014

Great speaker on UX design next Thursday

by Dick Goodman

Feb. 27, 2014

Registration Open! LOPSA-East SysAdmin Conference, May 2-3 2014, New Brunswick, NJ

by Evan Pettrey

Greetings! LOPSA-East registrations are officially open! Taking place May 2-3, 2014 at the Hyatt Regency Hotel in New Brunswick, NJ, LOPSA-East is a community-driven conference BY sys admins, FOR sys admins. Open to DevOps, network admins, Windows, Linux, and everyone! Register now at: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/register-for-lopsa-east-14 You can find all the latest details available on our website http://lopsa-east.org We'll see you there! Best, Evan & the rest of the LOPSA-East 2014 Committee

Feb. 24, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Announce: UPDATE: WLUG Meeting Thu 2/20 7PM: Software Defined Radio

by Chuck Anderson

Thanks to Andy for a great meeting! We had 20+ people, including lots of new faces. I've posted the slides from Andy's talk here: http://www.wlug.org/slides.html On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 02:35:21PM -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Hi folks, > > Due to the weather this week, I've rescheduled this month's WLUG > meeting for the following week, Thursday, February 20 at 7:00 PM, in > the WPI Campus Center, Hagglund Room 301. > > Our speaker this month will be Andy Stewart, who founded WLUG in 1997 > and now runs the Chelmsford Linux Meetup. Andy plans to talk about > software defined radio on Linux, and with luck, do a live > demonstration of gqrx: > > http://gqrx.dk/ > > If there is time, Andy *might* be able to show something related to > the GNU Radio Companion, where one can build a software defined radio > just by drawing the blocks and connecting them with lines. > > Thursday, February 20, 7:00 - 9:00 PM > WPI Campus Center, Hagglund Room 301 > > This room is the one across the hall from our usual room, and is where > we had the meeting with Jim Getty's on Bufferbloat. > > After the meeting, we will go out for pizza. > > See you there, > Chuck > President, Worcester Linux Users' Group > http://www.wlug.org/

Feb. 22, 2014

Schedule Announced! LOPSA-East SysAdmin Conference, May 2-3 2014, New Brunswick, NJ

by Evan Pettrey

Greetings! LOPSA-East is pleased to announce that the schedule for the LOPSA-East 2014 conference has been published! Taking place May 2-3, 2014 at the Hyatt Regency Hotel in New Brunswick, NJ, LOPSA-East is a community-driven conference BY sys admins, FOR sys admins. Open to DevOps, network admins, Windows, Linux, and everyone! You can find out more at http://lopsa-east.org/2014/ Tutorials: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/lopsa-east-14-training-schedule/ Talks: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/lopsa-east-14-talks/ This year's lineup promises to be the best yet and registrations open Monday. Be sure to register early and save! We'll see you there! Best, Evan & the rest of the LOPSA-East 2014 Committee

Feb. 19, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Video Editing

by JeffA Maillists

I agree with Tom, check out OpenShot. Great program. And v2.0 is on the horizon, I can't wait... Jeff On Feb 12, 2014 9:00 PM, "Tom Poe" <tompoe(a)meltel.net> wrote: > On 02/12/2014 07:20 PM, dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com wrote: > > Anyone do any video editing? I've tried using pitivi to edit videos. It > > usually crashed. Recently I tried putting a series of images in and > > creating a video. I successfully created a video once. Now everytime I > > seem to create a file without any video content. > > > > The video isn't going to be long or good. I was showing my son how lego > > stop animation is done. I only did a 8 images and they aren't perfectly > > aligned. I used a small tripod but press the picture button must have > > moved the camera a bit. Probably need to use video and screen capture > > images so I don't touch the camera. The images also have slightly > > different light levels. If anyone has suggestions on fixing the images to > > be consistent let me know. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > Try Open Shot, and check out ability to stretch frame over 5 or 6 > seconds. Really slow stop animation, but great way to organize protocol > for video production. > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 14, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Video Editing

by Tom Poe

On 02/12/2014 07:20 PM, dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com wrote: > Anyone do any video editing? I've tried using pitivi to edit videos. It > usually crashed. Recently I tried putting a series of images in and > creating a video. I successfully created a video once. Now everytime I > seem to create a file without any video content. > > The video isn't going to be long or good. I was showing my son how lego > stop animation is done. I only did a 8 images and they aren't perfectly > aligned. I used a small tripod but press the picture button must have > moved the camera a bit. Probably need to use video and screen capture > images so I don't touch the camera. The images also have slightly > different light levels. If anyone has suggestions on fixing the images to > be consistent let me know. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > Try Open Shot, and check out ability to stretch frame over 5 or 6 seconds. Really slow stop animation, but great way to organize protocol for video production. Tom

Feb. 13, 2014

Video Editing

by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com

Anyone do any video editing? I've tried using pitivi to edit videos. It usually crashed. Recently I tried putting a series of images in and creating a video. I successfully created a video once. Now everytime I seem to create a file without any video content. The video isn't going to be long or good. I was showing my son how lego stop animation is done. I only did a 8 images and they aren't perfectly aligned. I used a small tripod but press the picture button must have moved the camera a bit. Probably need to use video and screen capture images so I don't touch the camera. The images also have slightly different light levels. If anyone has suggestions on fixing the images to be consistent let me know.

Feb. 13, 2014

Announce: UPDATE: WLUG Meeting Thu 2/20 7PM: Software Defined Radio

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, Due to the weather this week, I've rescheduled this month's WLUG meeting for the following week, Thursday, February 20 at 7:00 PM, in the WPI Campus Center, Hagglund Room 301. Our speaker this month will be Andy Stewart, who founded WLUG in 1997 and now runs the Chelmsford Linux Meetup. Andy plans to talk about software defined radio on Linux, and with luck, do a live demonstration of gqrx: http://gqrx.dk/ If there is time, Andy *might* be able to show something related to the GNU Radio Companion, where one can build a software defined radio just by drawing the blocks and connecting them with lines. Thursday, February 20, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Hagglund Room 301 This room is the one across the hall from our usual room, and is where we had the meeting with Jim Getty's on Bufferbloat. After the meeting, we will go out for pizza. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

Feb. 12, 2014

Announce: NO meeting Thursday Feb 13

by Chuck Anderson

Hi All, Given the weather forecast, we are definately NOT meeting tomorrow, Thursday, Feb 13. I'm still waiting on a room reservation confirmation, but I hope to have the meeting rescheduled for next Thursday, Feb 20. When I get confirmation on the location, I'll send out another announcement. Chuck

Feb. 12, 2014

Northeast Linux Fest 2014

by Jonathan Nadeau

Hello list, I just wanted to let you know that the Northeast Linux Fest will be held this year at Harvard University on April 5. We are excepting talks you can email contact(a)northeastlinuxfest.org and here is a link to the site. Looking forward to seeing some of you there. http://www.northeastlinuxfest.org -- Jonathan Nadeau http://www.jnadeau.org Northeast GNU/Linux fest http://www.northeastlinuxfest.org

Feb. 11, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Thursday snow storm? Possible reschedule?

by Andy Stewart

On 02/11/2014 04:22 PM, Keith Wright wrote: > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> The weather people (who are using super computers running linux) are >> currently claiming that we're going to be getting heavy snow on Thursday >> night. >> >> I don't think WLUG has ever had this scenario... What's our game plan? > > I was wondering how much I would need to apologize > if I did not show up after enthusiastically > endorsing Andy. I would not mind if it happened > next week instead. > > -- Keith My recommendation is to err on the side of safety. Consider not only what the weather will be at the start of the meeting, but at the end when folks are departing. Sometimes you get burned when the predicted weather fails to materialize, but that's life in New England. It beats sleeping all night in The Wedge. ;-) I am looking forward to giving the software defined radio talk to WLUG, and if the meeting is postponed, there is a high likelyhood that I could reschedule with you on some other Thursday evening. Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

Feb. 11, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Thursday snow storm? Possible reschedule?

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 04:22:05PM -0500, Keith Wright wrote: > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > The weather people (who are using super computers running linux) are > > currently claiming that we're going to be getting heavy snow on Thursday > > night. > > > > I don't think WLUG has ever had this scenario... What's our game plan? > > I was wondering how much I would need to apologize > if I did not show up after enthusiastically > endorsing Andy. I would not mind if it happened > next week instead. I'm checking meeting room availability and speaker availability (Andy) for next Thursday, Feb 20. I'll post an official update/meeting announcement tomorrow once things are hopefully confirmed.

Feb. 11, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Thursday snow storm? Possible reschedule?

by Keith Wright

Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > The weather people (who are using super computers running linux) are > currently claiming that we're going to be getting heavy snow on Thursday > night. > > I don't think WLUG has ever had this scenario... What's our game plan? I was wondering how much I would need to apologize if I did not show up after enthusiastically endorsing Andy. I would not mind if it happened next week instead. -- Keith

Feb. 11, 2014

Thursday snow storm? Possible reschedule?

by Tim Keller

The weather people (who are using super computers running linux) are currently claiming that we're going to be getting heavy snow on Thursday night. I don't think WLUG has ever had this scenario... What's our game plan? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 11, 2014

Re: [Wlug] When's the next meeting?!?

by E Johnson

The 14th is a Friday. You're good for both days. Liz J ustabkc3xx On 7 February 2014 19:47, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: > Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> writes: > > > I could easily do a demonstration for the group. It would be great to > > see all of you again! > > > > I can't do Wednesday evenings, but if the meeting is on a Thursday, I > > could do it. Let me know what works. > > That works. Valentine's Day is a big deal > around here, but I would listen to Andy > talk about ham radio. > > ...if all the women who want to feed me > chocolate will wait until the next day... > > -- Keith > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 8, 2014

Re: [Wlug] When's the next meeting?!?

by Keith Wright

Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> writes: > I could easily do a demonstration for the group. It would be great to > see all of you again! > > I can't do Wednesday evenings, but if the meeting is on a Thursday, I > could do it. Let me know what works. That works. Valentine's Day is a big deal around here, but I would listen to Andy talk about ham radio. ...if all the women who want to feed me chocolate will wait until the next day... -- Keith

Feb. 8, 2014

Re: [Wlug] When's the next meeting?!?

by Andy Stewart

On 02/07/2014 02:38 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Is the next meeting going to be the 12th or the 13th? Any ideas for topics? > Here's a couple that come to mind... > > 1. An overview of home backup solutions. > 2. Software defined radios in linux (gnu radio) > 3. ... > 4. Profit? > > Thanks, > Tim. > Hi Tim, I actually have software defined radio working on my Linux / Ham Radio DVD which is freely available for download: https://sourceforge.net/projects/kb1oiq-andysham/ I could easily do a demonstration for the group. It would be great to see all of you again! I can't do Wednesday evenings, but if the meeting is on a Thursday, I could do it. Let me know what works. Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

Feb. 8, 2014

Next Meeting: Thursday Feb 13 in Harrington Forkey Conference Room

by Chuck Anderson

All meetings for 2014 are scheduled for the 2nd Thursday of each month. So the next one is Feb 13. The location just for this month is different due to a scheduling conflict. This month, the meeting will be held in: Harrington Auditorium, Forkey Conference Room 209 To find this room, go to the northwest end of the Quad, where the new Recreation Center meets Harrington Auditorium. There is an exterior door on the far left front corner of Harrington (not the main doors in the center of the front), just to the right of the stairway that leads down to the new Park Ave Garage. Go in that door, and straight ahead down the hallway leads to the Forkey Conference Room. In fact, you can probably safely park in the visitor's parking spaces around the edge of the Park Ave Garage, and walk up the stairway between Rec Center and Harrington to the Quad level, and the correct door will be around the corner on your left. I would like to see someone talk about Software Defined Radio if there is someone willing... Home backup solutions is always a good topic... On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 02:38:40PM -0500, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Is the next meeting going to be the 12th or the 13th? Any ideas for topics? > Here's a couple that come to mind... > > 1. An overview of home backup solutions. > 2. Software defined radios in linux (gnu radio) > 3. ... > 4. Profit? > > Thanks, > Tim.

Feb. 7, 2014

When's the next meeting?!?

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Is the next meeting going to be the 12th or the 13th? Any ideas for topics? Here's a couple that come to mind... 1. An overview of home backup solutions. 2. Software defined radios in linux (gnu radio) 3. ... 4. Profit? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 7, 2014

RepRap

by Chris Thompson

Hey guys, OK - not really a Linux thing, but I was wondering if anyone had access to a RepRap? http://reprap.org/wiki/RepRap Thanks! Chris

Jan. 11, 2014

Re: [Wlug] where is the meeting tonight?

by Chuck Anderson

Yes, there is a meeting tonight. What do you want it to be about? I could talk about "Lsyncd - Live Syncing (Mirror) Daemon". On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 01:02:18PM -0500, Pete Wason wrote: > > and what's it about? > > > > -- > > Pete Wason * Hy Noom Publications * 5088655414 * codevark(a)aim.com * codevark > > "Aborigine left speechless by steady disappearance of native dialects." -- The Onion

Jan. 9, 2014

where is the meeting tonight?

by Pete Wason

and what's it about? -- Pete Wason * Hy Noom Publications * 5088655414 * codevark(a)aim.com * codevark "Aborigine left speechless by steady disappearance of native dialects." -- The Onion

Jan. 9, 2014

Reminder: No meeting tonight, next is tomorrow Thu 1/9

by Chris Thompson

Fortunately, I visited the WLUG site tonight and noticed the change of day (yeah, I missed the mailing list mention of it). Just hoping to make sure others notice too! See you all tomorrow! Did I also miss confirmation on use of the same room? Thanks, --Chris

Jan. 8, 2014

[Super] 8mm Film to Video

by Larry Camilli

When I looked into this several months ago (because I, too, have a pile of old home movies), I discovered: The frame rates of film and video do not divide evenly. So, to get the video to flow at the same rate as the film, extra copies of frames are inserted here and there - at regular, but odd intervals. [I wonder if, on a computer, you could set the video refresh rate and video frame rate to something that would work for the original film frame rate.] There are some relatively cheap set-ups available to project a film on a small screen and video-record it. I can't imagine that the quality would be better than horrible. With the incompatible frame rates, how bad would the flicker be? I vaguely recall that you have to provide the projector and camera. Those once ubiquitous Kodak Instamatic projectors are famous for having brittle plastic gears. I have two such projectors; both broken. [They worked when stored 30 years ago. When I fired each up, little bits of plastic gear went flying.] There is a company I found on the web that provides instructions and parts to restore these things, but... I would think that trying to run an old film through a projector - with the jerky motion necessary to get each frame stationary in the gate when the shutter opens - risks shredding the film. Non-linear scanning at low speed sounds safer. Googling, I found a web site by some guy who was working on his own transfer mechanism. He was using a scanner with fine-enough resolution that he thought it would be OK for such tiny pictures. And, he rigged up some mechanical device to automatically advance the film some number of frames at a time and scan a group of frames. -And, he was working on some software to separate the frames and adjust them so that they're aligned (based on the sprocket holes) because the mechanism couldn't possibly align the frames on the scanner well enough. I'll see if I can find the site again. I wonder if there's pent-up demand for transfer services because the prices are so high. I had hoped to find a co-op or non-profit. But, commercial transfer equipment is so expensive, even a non-profit would have to charge a lot to break even. -Maybe a charitable organization interested in preserving old film and Americana would do it on the cheap? Or, a small number of people buying a (used) $1000 telecine machine could split the cost and take turns... ...and sell it when done? I would think that it'll be worth looking over the films carefully and deciding which are really worth transferring. [I used a microfiche reader to look at a few of mine. It was extremely awkward.] Some of the the companies in/near Boston allow you to use their equipment for free to view your movies. And, there are old viewers (hand-cranked, for editing) around... http://www.thebattles.net/video/8mm_restoration.html http://photo.net/video-forum/003WXX http://vimeo.com/22015773

Jan. 3, 2014

Re: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films

by Adam Keck

I second the use of a new screen and a quiet location. If you can record with a camera with line-in and your projector has line-out, then you may be able to eliminate the ambient projector sound issue by limiting the camera to line-in audio. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bKRCD-06-M looks like a good summary of the process. -Adam On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Mike Peckar <fog(a)fognet.com> wrote: > Project the movies onto a screen and then record them with your current > digital camera/phone/webcam. Some hints if choosing this method: > > Don't use a 40 yr old screen - buy a new one if you have to. > Probably won't get very good quality using a phone or a point-and shoot, > but > ymmv. > Choose a room that is far away from external sounds (street noise, etc) and > darken the room as best you can. > Mount the device on a tripod so that it is centered on the middle of the > screen. > Isolate the recording device from the projector so you don't record it's > noise. Use foam pads or blankets. > Choose some subject-matter or period-appropriate music for the soundtrack, > and just play it on some speakers during the recording session. > Feel free to narrate/comment during the recording session. If also using a > sound track, you can turn down the volume when you speak. > Make tests with various different arrangements/settings. > Use cue cards or digital post-processing to add credits at the beginning > and > end. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Chuck Anderson > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 2:29 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 01:42:05PM -0500, The Hammer wrote: > > I have a bunch of old Super 8 movie films from family in years gone by. > > Can any one recommend an efficient and economical way to convert them > > to digital files? > > > > I see online services available, but they are very costly. > > This video shows you how and then convinces you that using their service > (or > buying their equipment) is better: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm5ePQ5Qxzo > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 27, 2013

Re: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films

by Mike Peckar

Project the movies onto a screen and then record them with your current digital camera/phone/webcam. Some hints if choosing this method: Don't use a 40 yr old screen - buy a new one if you have to. Probably won't get very good quality using a phone or a point-and shoot, but ymmv. Choose a room that is far away from external sounds (street noise, etc) and darken the room as best you can. Mount the device on a tripod so that it is centered on the middle of the screen. Isolate the recording device from the projector so you don't record it's noise. Use foam pads or blankets. Choose some subject-matter or period-appropriate music for the soundtrack, and just play it on some speakers during the recording session. Feel free to narrate/comment during the recording session. If also using a sound track, you can turn down the volume when you speak. Make tests with various different arrangements/settings. Use cue cards or digital post-processing to add credits at the beginning and end. Mike -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 2:29 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 01:42:05PM -0500, The Hammer wrote: > I have a bunch of old Super 8 movie films from family in years gone by. > Can any one recommend an efficient and economical way to convert them > to digital files? > > I see online services available, but they are very costly. This video shows you how and then convinces you that using their service (or buying their equipment) is better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm5ePQ5Qxzo _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 27, 2013

Re: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films

by Chuck Anderson

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 01:42:05PM -0500, The Hammer wrote: > I have a bunch of old Super 8 movie films from family in years gone by. > Can any one recommend an efficient and economical way to convert them to > digital files? > > I see online services available, but they are very costly. This video shows you how and then convinces you that using their service (or buying their equipment) is better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm5ePQ5Qxzo

Dec. 27, 2013

Re: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films

by Strazdas, Rich

Oops, just reread this and my solution is not for super 8! -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of The Hammer Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 1:42 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films I have a bunch of old Super 8 movie films from family in years gone by. Can any one recommend an efficient and economical way to convert them to digital files? I see online services available, but they are very costly. Thanks, Ron PS as a last resort I may experiment with using a projector to play the reels and try to record the projected image with a cam corder. My fear is that there will be too much quality loss this way. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Warning, information subject to export control laws. The information contained within this email may be subject to the International Traffic in Arms Regulation (ITAR) or the Export Administration Regulations (EAR). This information shall not be exported, released, or disclosed to foreign nationals inside or outside the United States without first complying with the export authorization requirements of the ITAR and/or the EAR. This e-mail message is generated from Coghlin Companies Inc. or one of its subsidiaries including, but not limited to, Columbia Electrical Contractors, Inc. d/b/a Columbia Tech; DCI Automation, Inc. d/b/a DCI Engineering Services; and Cogmedix, Inc. This message may contain information that is CONFIDENTIAL, and may also possibly contain information that is being held as a Trade Secret. The information is intended to be disclosed solely to the addressee(s). If you are the intended recipient, any information herein is to be held as CONFIDENTIAL pursuant to any Non-Disclosure Agreement applicable between the parties, or as a Trade Secret as applicable. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this e-mail information is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete it from your computer system.

Dec. 27, 2013

Re: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films

by Strazdas, Rich

There are (expensive) services out there. My daughter and son-in-law recently got http://www.elgato.com/video/video-capture and are digitizing all my VHS and VHS-C tapes. FYI, 1 hour = 1Gb So the cheapest route is to find a relative to buy the kit and do it for you! -Rich -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of The Hammer Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 1:42 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films I have a bunch of old Super 8 movie films from family in years gone by. Can any one recommend an efficient and economical way to convert them to digital files? I see online services available, but they are very costly. Thanks, Ron PS as a last resort I may experiment with using a projector to play the reels and try to record the projected image with a cam corder. My fear is that there will be too much quality loss this way. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Warning, information subject to export control laws. The information contained within this email may be subject to the International Traffic in Arms Regulation (ITAR) or the Export Administration Regulations (EAR). This information shall not be exported, released, or disclosed to foreign nationals inside or outside the United States without first complying with the export authorization requirements of the ITAR and/or the EAR. This e-mail message is generated from Coghlin Companies Inc. or one of its subsidiaries including, but not limited to, Columbia Electrical Contractors, Inc. d/b/a Columbia Tech; DCI Automation, Inc. d/b/a DCI Engineering Services; and Cogmedix, Inc. This message may contain information that is CONFIDENTIAL, and may also possibly contain information that is being held as a Trade Secret. The information is intended to be disclosed solely to the addressee(s). If you are the intended recipient, any information herein is to be held as CONFIDENTIAL pursuant to any Non-Disclosure Agreement applicable between the parties, or as a Trade Secret as applicable. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this e-mail information is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete it from your computer system.

Dec. 27, 2013

creating digital files from super 8 films

by The Hammer

I have a bunch of old Super 8 movie films from family in years gone by. Can any one recommend an efficient and economical way to convert them to digital files? I see online services available, but they are very costly. Thanks, Ron PS as a last resort I may experiment with using a projector to play the reels and try to record the projected image with a cam corder. My fear is that there will be too much quality loss this way.

Dec. 27, 2013

WLUG meetings in 2014 on Thursdays

by Chuck Anderson

For 2014, I may have conflicts on most Wednesdays. I just scheduled the next batch of meeting space for 2nd Thursdays of each month, with our next one on Thursday, January 9, 7:00 PM. I'm still waiting for confirmation on the meeting location, but I did request the same room we've been meeting in, Campus Center Mid-Century room 331. Happy Holidays, Chuck

Dec. 20, 2013

Meeting tonight at 7pm in Mid Century room (rm. 331)

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Tonight we've got a meeting at the mid century room (rm. 331) at 7pm. No topic, no speaker so it'll just be an open forum... I figure we can talk about linux current events, any interesting linux stuff people are working on and talk about what we want to do for demos/etc. for next year. If nobody objects, I'd like to sign myself up for the talk for next month. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Dec. 11, 2013

Announce: WLUG Meeting tonight

by Chuck Anderson

Yes, there is a WLUG meeting tonight, 7PM, WPI Campus Center Mid-Century room 331. On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 04:35:56PM -0500, Henrique wrote: > Hey Linux Enthusiasts, > > Are we having a meeting next week? > > There are plenty of interesting stuff going on lately: > > Valve, one of the major distributors of games for PC is moving towards > Linux, and just joined the Linux Foundation - > http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/12/04/valve-joins-linux-foundation-prepa… > - > This is also pushing AMD/Nvidia to push for better graphics drivers. > > > Interesting bits from Kernel 3.13 - > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUxNTk > -F2FS a filesystem made only for Flash file systems. > - I am particularly skeptical about the "There's now NFTables as the > eventual replacement to IPTables." > > Some filesystems benchmarks: > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_btrfs_311&num=3 > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_312_fs&num=3 > I just find interesting that compression can actually increase your > performance. > > Google's Go Lang 1.2 is released: http://blog.golang.org/go12 > > Cheers, > Henrique.

Dec. 11, 2013

Fwd: Open Position @ Brown

by Phillip Deneault

Brown University is looking for a security-centric Windows/Linux admin for a special environment they are building to process health care records. If you have experience with security regulations and technologies and like the straight-shot commute to Brown via 146 rather than commute to Boston on the Pike, this might be for you. Please respond to the position description and not to me. I do not represent Brown or know anything about the job beyond what is here, I'm just posting for a friend. Thanks, Phil

Dec. 5, 2013

Meeting next week ?

by Henrique

Hey Linux Enthusiasts, Are we having a meeting next week? There are plenty of interesting stuff going on lately: Valve, one of the major distributors of games for PC is moving towards Linux, and just joined the Linux Foundation - http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/12/04/valve-joins-linux-foundation-prepa… - This is also pushing AMD/Nvidia to push for better graphics drivers. Interesting bits from Kernel 3.13 - http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUxNTk -F2FS a filesystem made only for Flash file systems. - I am particularly skeptical about the "There's now NFTables as the eventual replacement to IPTables." Some filesystems benchmarks: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_btrfs_311&num=3 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_312_fs&num=3 I just find interesting that compression can actually increase your performance. Google's Go Lang 1.2 is released: http://blog.golang.org/go12 Cheers, Henrique.

Dec. 4, 2013

Free Non-working Older Dell Server - For parts

by joel d

Please contact me direct (off list) if you would like this for parts. Non working server is a Dell 1600SC Problem with server's motherboard giving boot eror "No timer tick interrupt" also beeps 4-2-1 pattern. Server has no hard disks, and motherboard not working/booting. Offered for it's likely good parts (case, power supply, some ECC RAM, etc.). Contact me joelgroup(a)gmail.com if you have any interest. (If not it goes to elect recycling in a few days.) Thank you, Joel

Nov. 22, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Upgrade

by Chuck Anderson

On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:57:22AM -0500, Clint Moyer wrote: > Are there any gotchas using a CPU with integrated GPU? Not talking about mobo chipset graphic, but something like an AMD CPU with embedded ATI graphic. My experiences are with Intel embedded graphics which have excellent open source support. > I haven't yet dealt with any motherboard with UEFI bios. I know there was a big uproar over Secure Boot. Is this going to give me any headache installing Linux? Is there any specific manufacturer that implements it more properly than others? Asus has been my goto brand. FWIW, Fedora works fine with UEFI and Secure Boot enabled. I'm dual-booting Windows 8 and Fedora 18 on an Asus X202E. The Atheros ethernet driver (alx) is very new and has unresolved issues after resuming from suspend. I've gotten along without wired ethernet when alx wasn't in the kernel yet (it appeared in 3.10), so I just blacklisted the alx driver in 3.11 for now until it is fixed. I also had an issue with the screen going black after bootup, but that was fixed in kernel 3.11. Before that was available, I stayed on 3.9.9. > I'll retain my current HDDs for storage but would like to use an SSD for the OSes. I'd assume that's pretty transparent as far as installing Linux goes? Anything I need to worry about here? Nothing to worry about on modern OSes. They should all support TRIM and do the proper data alignment for SSDs. You might want to make sure TRIM has been enabled after installing.

Nov. 11, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 121, Issue 5

by David Hardy

When I got three new machines over this past year, they all came with Windows 8 (HP Pavilions) and Atheros ethernet controllers. I had to disable Secure Boot on the machines where I installed Linux and it was also a royal PITA dealing with the Atheros drivers. Ubuntu and Mint did not want to work with Atheros, and the one machine I finally put Linux on ended up working nicely with Fedora 19. One machine remains Windows 8 (and I had gotten stung pretty badly doing the Beta 8.1 "upgrade" so am keeping it at the 8 level.) Because of pending job stuff I have to, for now, keep a second machine running Windows Server 2012R2, which works fine with the Atheros (Windows 2008R2 did not). And my remaining machine runs Fedora 19 with a hardened Virtual Box running a Whonix vm running Tor and an offshore mail client. Good luck; YMMV, obviously, but I think the disabling of Secure Boot may be your first order of business. Regards from northern Vermont (and 1980s denizen of Woostah) Dave On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Upgrade (Clint Moyer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 10:57:22 -0500 > From: Clint Moyer <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Upgrade > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <C42E30DF-37B2-4081-B5F9-946E50BC2D71(a)charter.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > My main PC is long overdue for an update. I dual boot Win7 and Linux Mint. > Light use, no gaming or heavy graphics. A few questions: > > Are there any gotchas using a CPU with integrated GPU? Not talking about > mobo chipset graphic, but something like an AMD CPU with embedded ATI > graphic. > > I haven't yet dealt with any motherboard with UEFI bios. I know there was > a big uproar over Secure Boot. Is this going to give me any headache > installing Linux? Is there any specific manufacturer that implements it > more properly than others? Asus has been my goto brand. > > I'll retain my current HDDs for storage but would like to use an SSD for > the OSes. I'd assume that's pretty transparent as far as installing Linux > goes? Anything I need to worry about here? > > Any specific advice or recommendations will be appreciated. Thanks. > > Clint > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20131110/7acc8a8c/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 121, Issue 5 > ************************************ >

Nov. 10, 2013

Upgrade

by Clint Moyer

My main PC is long overdue for an update. I dual boot Win7 and Linux Mint. Light use, no gaming or heavy graphics. A few questions: Are there any gotchas using a CPU with integrated GPU? Not talking about mobo chipset graphic, but something like an AMD CPU with embedded ATI graphic. I haven't yet dealt with any motherboard with UEFI bios. I know there was a big uproar over Secure Boot. Is this going to give me any headache installing Linux? Is there any specific manufacturer that implements it more properly than others? Asus has been my goto brand. I'll retain my current HDDs for storage but would like to use an SSD for the OSes. I'd assume that's pretty transparent as far as installing Linux goes? Anything I need to worry about here? Any specific advice or recommendations will be appreciated. Thanks. Clint

Nov. 10, 2013

OPENING - Embedded Linux, Open WRT contract in northern MA

by John Spencer

We have a client in northern MA looking for a Sr or Prin level consultant for a new project They are looking for experience with embedded Linux and OpenWRT. If you or anyone you know may be qualified and interested, please let me know. I would be happy to share additional details. Please send a Word version of your resume with any questions. Please Note, your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com<www.connectedsp.com%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

Nov. 6, 2013

Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 11/13 7PM: OpenWRT

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held NEXT Wednesday, November 13 at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. We will have a discussion of people's experiences with OpenWRT, and perhaps a demo of how to load OpenWRT on a Netgear home wireless router and configure it for Bufferbloat avoidance/improvement. Wednesday, November 13, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Wlug] OpenWRT on WNDR3800 home router - my install thoughts

by Chuck Anderson

I think this would make a great November 13 meeting topic. We can share our experiences of loading OpenWRT and battling Bufferbloat. I may even get some time this weekend to try loading OpenWRT on my WNDR3700v2. On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 12:40:10PM -0500, Mike Peckar wrote: > At least 2 years ago, I flashed my Netgear WNR3500L with DD-WRT (build > 14929) and have been a very happy camper ever since. I chose DD-WRT over > OpenWRT because it adds SNMP support, which (at least at the time) OpenWRT > didn't. I remember I was able to improve wifi performance over factory, but > I can't remember what specific tweaks I made. > > > > Mike > > > > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of joel d > Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 11:32 AM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: [Wlug] OpenWRT on WNDR3800 home router - my install thoughts > > > > Decided to try OpenWRT after Jim Getty's talk and strong recommendation last > month for improved security and reduced local buffer bloat. What follows is > my experience / thoughts from this process. I would happily bring the > hardware to demo at a future meeting if there is interest. > > Likely wouldn't be a full meeting but a 10-15 minute filler. More likely > Q&A than anything else. > > > > I decided to go with different router/firewall hardware so I bought a > Netgear WNDR3800 which Jim mentioned and is also a favorite of the OpenWRT > crowd. Mine was used and $50 shipped from e-bay. This model is one model > old and no longer available new. FYI: Netgear website lists it as "out of > support". > > My WNDR3800 was used prior, so I needed to do a hard firmware reset on the > bottom of router with a paperclip (didn't know the prior IP used or the > admin password). > > Once reset and rebooted, router worked fine and could login to the "default" > Netgear firmware and configuration. Default username & password is printed > under the router. > > Downloaded the recommended OpenWRT firmware for this model. Needs to be > full "factory" (instead of partial upgrade) and squashfs is recommended. > Netgear WNDR3800 Firmware download link gets you OpenWRT version 10.X > version which is not latest OpenWRT. > > Web browser login to Netgear webpage/firmware and followed "upgrade > firmware" link while pointing to OpenWRT download file on local disk. The > upgrade/re-flash took around 4 minutes and after a reboot worked fine. Set > password and reconfigured router and WIFI with my specifics. Was up and > working on OpenWRT v 10.x. > > Next day realized I had OpenWRT, but not latest stable version. Upgrade > firmware link does not go to Internet directly, so first download OpenWRT v > 12.4 with "upgrade" and "squashfs" and save to local disk. Second apply > this via upgrade button in OpenWRT web link. > > I could likely have saved a step by grabbing the OpenWRT v12.4 for WNDR3800 > with factory and squashfs. I bet this would have worked had I tried it > (and saved a step). > > > > General thoughts after use for a week: > > OpenWRT does not have an "update direct to mother ship" feature best I can > tell that downloads file and updates it from web interface. Not a show > stopper for me. Instead need to know your version of OpenWRT and download > an "upgrade" file and apply as two steps. This would only matter if router > was used/maintained by a non-geek. > > Prior problem occurred with similar hardware WNDR3700 with latest Netgear > firmware (happened with prior Linksys also). A few embedded WIFI devices in > home would disconnect and fail randomly and at least weekly. Thus far these > device annoyances have not occured since swap to WNDR3800 and OpenWRT. No > idea why, but definitely A win! > > OpenWRT has transmit power level settings for the WIFI radio transmit. Can > decide to bump up the WIFI radio settings if user chooses. Even if you > melt/destroy them, a cool option if needed & tested. > > Firmware update for OpenWRT works from a laptop on WIFI, which in my > experience Netgear & Linksys and other vendors do not support flash without > a cabled ethernet port. So the OpenWRT update scripts the 1) copy file 2) > apply file 3) reboot device. > > My Next Steps: > > In another week will likely repurpose the WNDR3700 likely as a WIFI gateway > for the "cheap WIFI radio" devices, (mainly TV, roku, DVD, etc.). Not yet > sure if I will use OpenWRT for this. > > Look into the option of external antennas for the WNDR3800. I live out in > the country and have few neighbors to notice/know/care. If I can get > there... improved & reliable WIFI signal at my mailbox would rock.

Nov. 4, 2013

Re: [Wlug] OpenWRT on WNDR3800 home router - my install thoughts

by Mike Peckar

At least 2 years ago, I flashed my Netgear WNR3500L with DD-WRT (build 14929) and have been a very happy camper ever since. I chose DD-WRT over OpenWRT because it adds SNMP support, which (at least at the time) OpenWRT didn't. I remember I was able to improve wifi performance over factory, but I can't remember what specific tweaks I made. Mike From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of joel d Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 11:32 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] OpenWRT on WNDR3800 home router - my install thoughts Decided to try OpenWRT after Jim Getty's talk and strong recommendation last month for improved security and reduced local buffer bloat. What follows is my experience / thoughts from this process. I would happily bring the hardware to demo at a future meeting if there is interest. Likely wouldn't be a full meeting but a 10-15 minute filler. More likely Q&A than anything else. I decided to go with different router/firewall hardware so I bought a Netgear WNDR3800 which Jim mentioned and is also a favorite of the OpenWRT crowd. Mine was used and $50 shipped from e-bay. This model is one model old and no longer available new. FYI: Netgear website lists it as "out of support". My WNDR3800 was used prior, so I needed to do a hard firmware reset on the bottom of router with a paperclip (didn't know the prior IP used or the admin password). Once reset and rebooted, router worked fine and could login to the "default" Netgear firmware and configuration. Default username & password is printed under the router. Downloaded the recommended OpenWRT firmware for this model. Needs to be full "factory" (instead of partial upgrade) and squashfs is recommended. Netgear WNDR3800 Firmware download link gets you OpenWRT version 10.X version which is not latest OpenWRT. Web browser login to Netgear webpage/firmware and followed "upgrade firmware" link while pointing to OpenWRT download file on local disk. The upgrade/re-flash took around 4 minutes and after a reboot worked fine. Set password and reconfigured router and WIFI with my specifics. Was up and working on OpenWRT v 10.x. Next day realized I had OpenWRT, but not latest stable version. Upgrade firmware link does not go to Internet directly, so first download OpenWRT v 12.4 with "upgrade" and "squashfs" and save to local disk. Second apply this via upgrade button in OpenWRT web link. I could likely have saved a step by grabbing the OpenWRT v12.4 for WNDR3800 with factory and squashfs. I bet this would have worked had I tried it (and saved a step). General thoughts after use for a week: OpenWRT does not have an "update direct to mother ship" feature best I can tell that downloads file and updates it from web interface. Not a show stopper for me. Instead need to know your version of OpenWRT and download an "upgrade" file and apply as two steps. This would only matter if router was used/maintained by a non-geek. Prior problem occurred with similar hardware WNDR3700 with latest Netgear firmware (happened with prior Linksys also). A few embedded WIFI devices in home would disconnect and fail randomly and at least weekly. Thus far these device annoyances have not occured since swap to WNDR3800 and OpenWRT. No idea why, but definitely A win! OpenWRT has transmit power level settings for the WIFI radio transmit. Can decide to bump up the WIFI radio settings if user chooses. Even if you melt/destroy them, a cool option if needed & tested. Firmware update for OpenWRT works from a laptop on WIFI, which in my experience Netgear & Linksys and other vendors do not support flash without a cabled ethernet port. So the OpenWRT update scripts the 1) copy file 2) apply file 3) reboot device. My Next Steps: In another week will likely repurpose the WNDR3700 likely as a WIFI gateway for the "cheap WIFI radio" devices, (mainly TV, roku, DVD, etc.). Not yet sure if I will use OpenWRT for this. Look into the option of external antennas for the WNDR3800. I live out in the country and have few neighbors to notice/know/care. If I can get there... improved & reliable WIFI signal at my mailbox would rock.

Nov. 4, 2013

OpenWRT on WNDR3800 home router - my install thoughts

by joel d

Decided to try OpenWRT after Jim Getty's talk and strong recommendation last month for improved security and reduced local buffer bloat. What follows is my experience / thoughts from this process. I would happily bring the hardware to demo at a future meeting if there is interest. Likely wouldn't be a full meeting but a 10-15 minute filler. More likely Q&A than anything else. I decided to go with different router/firewall hardware so I bought a Netgear WNDR3800 which Jim mentioned and is also a favorite of the OpenWRT crowd. Mine was used and $50 shipped from e-bay. This model is one model old and no longer available new. FYI: Netgear website lists it as "out of support". My WNDR3800 was used prior, so I needed to do a hard firmware reset on the bottom of router with a paperclip (didn't know the prior IP used or the admin password). Once reset and rebooted, router worked fine and could login to the "default" Netgear firmware and configuration. Default username & password is printed under the router. Downloaded the recommended OpenWRT firmware for this model. Needs to be full "factory" (instead of partial upgrade) and squashfs is recommended. Netgear WNDR3800 Firmware download link gets you OpenWRT version 10.X version which is not latest OpenWRT. Web browser login to Netgear webpage/firmware and followed "upgrade firmware" link while pointing to OpenWRT download file on local disk. The upgrade/re-flash took around 4 minutes and after a reboot worked fine. Set password and reconfigured router and WIFI with my specifics. Was up and working on OpenWRT v 10.x. Next day realized I had OpenWRT, but not latest stable version. Upgrade firmware link does not go to Internet directly, so first download OpenWRT v 12.4 with "upgrade" and "squashfs" and save to local disk. Second apply this via upgrade button in OpenWRT web link. I could likely have saved a step by grabbing the OpenWRT v12.4 for WNDR3800 with factory and squashfs. I bet this would have worked had I tried it (and saved a step). General thoughts after use for a week: OpenWRT does not have an "update direct to mother ship" feature best I can tell that downloads file and updates it from web interface. Not a show stopper for me. Instead need to know your version of OpenWRT and download an "upgrade" file and apply as two steps. This would only matter if router was used/maintained by a non-geek. Prior problem occurred with similar hardware WNDR3700 with latest Netgear firmware (happened with prior Linksys also). A few embedded WIFI devices in home would disconnect and fail randomly and at least weekly. Thus far these device annoyances have not occured since swap to WNDR3800 and OpenWRT. No idea why, but definitely A win! OpenWRT has transmit power level settings for the WIFI radio transmit. Can decide to bump up the WIFI radio settings if user chooses. Even if you melt/destroy them, a cool option if needed & tested. Firmware update for OpenWRT works from a laptop on WIFI, which in my experience Netgear & Linksys and other vendors do not support flash without a cabled ethernet port. So the OpenWRT update scripts the 1) copy file 2) apply file 3) reboot device. My Next Steps: In another week will likely repurpose the WNDR3700 likely as a WIFI gateway for the "cheap WIFI radio" devices, (mainly TV, roku, DVD, etc.). Not yet sure if I will use OpenWRT for this. Look into the option of external antennas for the WNDR3800. I live out in the country and have few neighbors to notice/know/care. If I can get there... improved & reliable WIFI signal at my mailbox would rock.

Nov. 1, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Idiot Service Providers

by Randall Mason

On Oct 23, 2013, at 3:51 AM, kwright(a)keithdiane.us (Keith Wright) wrote: >> I actually don't see why you wouldn't want to totally >> switch over to hosted. You get perks like full IPv6 >> and dynamic updates to hosts; my laptop is always >> updating it's DNS info so that I can make sure I can >> find it. It also uses UPNP to punch SSH ports out. > > I don't really understand this. Maybe you should > give a talk about how to set up DNS on the modern > internet and what help is available. I have an > 2001 edition of the Cricket Liu & Paul Albitz > "DNS and BIND" book and RFCs. It works well > enough for this steam-driven computer. This is mostly a statement of the poor state of things with ISPs. A normal person gets 1 dynamic IPv4 address. You're going to need some sort of extra services in addition the the "Internet" that you're paying for before you get what I would consider Internet. The world is also more mobile since 2001. If I had to get to any of my hosts in 2001, they were all cabled into some internet connection that was fairly predictable. These days there can be a file on my phone and I don't feel that I need to know what connection is active at the moment or where it is in the world to get back to it. Dynamic DNS + UPNP help, but IPv6 totally solves the problem. A real internet connection with a static IP anywhere in the world without NAT traversal and port forwarding is why I need more than just what my ISP will ever give me which is why I will probably always need some sort of hosted DNS. I doubt MegaPath, Cox, or Verizon will ever enable [Mobile IP](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_IP). -Randall

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Idiot Service Providers

by Keith Wright

> From: Randall Mason <clashthebunny(a)gmail.com> > > > What would you recommend? > > I use dns.he.net. It's free and it's good enough for > casual work. You can set them up as secondary DNS: Thank you. This was bacon-saving advice. I spent most of the day creating secondary servers on Hurricane Electric, and updating Godaddy to match for my three domains. It seems to work. > I actually don't see why you wouldn't want to totally > switch over to hosted. You get perks like full IPv6 > and dynamic updates to hosts; my laptop is always > updating it's DNS info so that I can make sure I can > find it. It also uses UPNP to punch SSH ports out. I don't really understand this. Maybe you should give a talk about how to set up DNS on the modern internet and what help is available. I have an 2001 edition of the Cricket Liu & Paul Albitz "DNS and BIND" book and RFCs. It works well enough for this steam-driven computer. -- Keith

Oct. 23, 2013

Barbarians at the gates...

by Tim Keller

This is a paper about High Frequency Trading, it's an interesting if not entirely terrifying read about what a crazy place the markets have become. http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2536492 Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 21, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Idiot Service Providers

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

as a FYI, if you have a WPI alumni account at alum.wpi.edu, you can set up and use them as a secondary name server (as long as you're not a large company or ISP) https://alum.wpi.edu/cgi-bin/alumni On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: .... > Since I have only one IP address on one DSL line, > I never really saw the need for a secondary server > in the first place. I run a primary server because > (A) I like to think of myself as a programmer, > and it is self education to figure out how to > do it. > (B) Sometimes I create subdomains and run test > program servers in them. > > The RFC's require a second name server, and > the registrar asks for it, but who's going to > care really? If the primary name server goes > out, so do all other servers in the domain, > since it's all really just one computer. > > What would you recommend? > > If anyone else has the same problem, I could > be your secondary, and you could be mine. > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 21, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Idiot Service Providers

by Randall Mason

On Oct 21, 2013, at 4:41 AM, kwright(a)keithdiane.us (Keith Wright) wrote: > The RFC's require a second name server, and > the registrar asks for it, but who's going to > care really? If the primary name server goes > out, so do all other servers in the domain, > since it's all really just one computer. Many people don't have totally redundant DNS because of this very reason. Some people have ns1 and ns2 point to the same IP/host, and that works fine. I would just make sure you somehow control whatever the 2nd ns is, so that you can be sure that nobody can answer before you about your DNS. That's why you have to change something. > What would you recommend? I use dns.he.net. It's free and it's good enough for casual work. You can set them up as secondary DNS: > Secondary domains that disallow AXFR's will be deactivated until they have been validated. > You can validate the domain by selecting it from the "Slave domains for this account." (click on the (i)nformation icon) This will attempt to pull the zone from the specified nameserver(s). If it is successful, it will validate the domain and will start listening to your nameservers NOTIFY packets as well as making periodic checks (depending on your TTL). I actually don't see why you wouldn't want to totally switch over to hosted. You get perks like full IPv6 and dynamic updates to hosts; my laptop is always updating it's DNS info so that I can make sure I can find it. It also uses UPNP to punch SSH ports out. If you don't want to depend on an evil corporation after what MegaPath did to you, I understand. A friend may be the best way. -Randall

Oct. 21, 2013

Idiot Service Providers

by Keith Wright

On recomendation from someone on this list, I signed up for Speakeasy DSL. The helped me set up a primary name server (DNS) and they ran a secondary name server for a few extra dollars per month. This has been working well for about a decade. Speakeasy was sold to MegaPath, who yesterday sent me a message that included this: > Dear MegaPath Customer, > > This email is to advise you that MegaPath is > migrating its legacy Speakeasy ISP, web hosting, > webmail and DNS services to a more advanced platform. > > <Braindead "customer-experience" > happy market-talk deleted> > > Going forward, we will no longer support secondary > DNS services. If your domain is set up in this > manner, please be sure to make the proper changes to > avoid a post-migration service disruption. This all happens next Tuesday. I read this is "We are breaking what has worked for a decade, there is nothing you can do, have fun finding a new ISP in two days." I was wall-punching cursing mad. When I calmed down a bit I began to think, if they don't break anything else, maybe it's not so bad. The system was designed to tolerate failure. _I_ was not designed to tolerate _intentional_ failure, but everything should still work if the secondary name server is broken. Since I have only one IP address on one DSL line, I never really saw the need for a secondary server in the first place. I run a primary server because (A) I like to think of myself as a programmer, and it is self education to figure out how to do it. (B) Sometimes I create subdomains and run test program servers in them. The RFC's require a second name server, and the registrar asks for it, but who's going to care really? If the primary name server goes out, so do all other servers in the domain, since it's all really just one computer. What would you recommend? If anyone else has the same problem, I could be your secondary, and you could be mine. -- Keith

Oct. 21, 2013

Bufferbloat demonstrations w/water and funnels

by Chuck Anderson

Here is a series of videos of a talk by Dave Täht where he uses water and funnels to demonstrate the concepts of bufferbloat: [1] Bufferbloat #1 - TCP 101 [2] Bufferbloat #2 - Tail drop queueing [3] Bufferbloat #3 - FIFO, RED, Blue, and Fair Queueing [4] Bufferbloat #4 - Wifi, Netalyzr, SFQ, SFQRED, and CoDel [5] Bufferbloat #5 - CoDel and Drop Head Queueing [6] Bufferbloat #6 - More on FQ_Codel [7] Bufferbloat #7 - Q&A [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD5TwLQnq_8 [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgFcqRMDqlk [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9xJbwb28Zc [4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol_BcKA9Ohg [5] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Esi0zjNdE [6] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi-jumVNVGk [7] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFH5fGNzBJU

Oct. 14, 2013

Changing your network scheduler in ubuntu 13.04...

by Tim Keller

Just so people know... this is how to change the scheduler on Ubuntu 13.04. tc qdisc replace dev eth0 root fq_codel limit 100 target 5ms interval 30ms ecn Obviously replace "eth0" with your appropriate network device... Enjoy, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 14, 2013

Reminder: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held this Wednesday. This month we will have Jim Gettys from Bell Labs talk about Internet buffer bloat. This is the talk that has been rescheduled from April. Note that there has been a room change to a larger room right down the hall from our regular location. Wednesday, October 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Hagglund Room 301 The Campus Center is building #7 on the campus map [1], and the Hagglund Room is room 301 on the Campus Center building floorplan [2]. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/about/visitors/campusmap.html [2] http://www.wpi.edu/Admin/CC/Floorplans/37678.htm "Internet buffer bloat, by Jim Gettys (Bell Labs) VOIP and teleconferencing often perform much more poorly on today's Internet than the Internet of a decade ago, despite great gains in bandwidth. Lots of fiber, cheap memory, smart hardware, variability of wireless goodput, changes in web browser behaviour, changes in TCP implementations, and a focus on benchmarking Internet performance solely by bandwidth, and engineer's natural reluctance to drop packets have conspired to encourage papering over problems by adding buffers; each of which may introduce latency when filled. The mistaken quest to never drop packets has destroyed interactivity under load, and often results in actual higher packet loss, as TCP's congestion avoidance algorithms have been defeated by these buffers. The lessons of the "RED manifesto" of 1997 have been forgotten or never learned by a new generation of engineers." Wednesday, October 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Hagglund Room 301 Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

Oct. 7, 2013

Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat

by joel d

I plan to attend Wednesday's meeting also (90% likely at this point). Joel

Oct. 3, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat

by Tim Keller

I plan to attend. On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I hope to be there. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAlJNXX0ACgkQrlYvE4MpobPU3QCfcPGlJqCA7pQbgE6Wqs2je0nF > KDoAn0uX2j4QZJaOqLE9uB1Cr6Qg5VVt > =38aU > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 3, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat

by Daniel J Walsh

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Oct. 3, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat

by The Hammer

I plan to be there. -Ron On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > I'd like to gauge how many people plan to go to this meeting, since it > could be popular enough that I might need to get a bigger room. If > people plan to attend, could they chime in? > > Thanks, > Chuck > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:01:41AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held at > > its regularly scheduled time: the 2nd Wednesday of the month, which is > > Wednesday, October 9, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus > > Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. > > > > This month we will have Jim Gettys from Bell Labs talk about Internet > > buffer bloat. This is the talk that has been rescheduled from April. > > > > "Internet buffer bloat, by Jim Gettys (Bell Labs) > > > > VOIP and teleconferencing often perform much more poorly on today's > > Internet than the Internet of a decade ago, despite great gains in > > bandwidth. Lots of fiber, cheap memory, smart hardware, variability of > > wireless goodput, changes in web browser behaviour, changes in TCP > > implementations, and a focus on benchmarking Internet performance > > solely by bandwidth, and engineer's natural reluctance to drop packets > > have conspired to encourage papering over problems by adding buffers; > > each of which may introduce latency when filled. > > > > The mistaken quest to never drop packets has destroyed interactivity > > under load, and often results in actual higher packet loss, as TCP's > > congestion avoidance algorithms have been defeated by these > > buffers. The lessons of the "RED manifesto" of 1997 have been > > forgotten or never learned by a new generation of engineers." > > > > Wednesday, October 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM > > WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 > > > > Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. > > > > See you there, > > Chuck > > President, Worcester Linux Users' Group > > http://www.wlug.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Oct. 3, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat

by Keith Wright

> From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > > If people plan to attend, I might need to get a > bigger room. If enough people plan to attend, I might need a bigger mail box (or maybe just a bloated buffer). I expect to be there. It will be a fine way to celebrate John Lennon's birthday. -- Keith

Oct. 3, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat

by Eric Martin

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Oct. 3, 2013

[SPF:Probably_Forged] Re: Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat

by Bob

I'll be there. Bob On 10/2/2013 6:07 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > I'd like to gauge how many people plan to go to this meeting, since it > could be popular enough that I might need to get a bigger room. If > people plan to attend, could they chime in? > > Thanks, > Chuck > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:01:41AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held at >> its regularly scheduled time: the 2nd Wednesday of the month, which is >> Wednesday, October 9, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus >> Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. >> >> This month we will have Jim Gettys from Bell Labs talk about Internet >> buffer bloat. This is the talk that has been rescheduled from April. >> >> "Internet buffer bloat, by Jim Gettys (Bell Labs) >> >> VOIP and teleconferencing often perform much more poorly on today's >> Internet than the Internet of a decade ago, despite great gains in >> bandwidth. Lots of fiber, cheap memory, smart hardware, variability of >> wireless goodput, changes in web browser behaviour, changes in TCP >> implementations, and a focus on benchmarking Internet performance >> solely by bandwidth, and engineer's natural reluctance to drop packets >> have conspired to encourage papering over problems by adding buffers; >> each of which may introduce latency when filled. >> >> The mistaken quest to never drop packets has destroyed interactivity >> under load, and often results in actual higher packet loss, as TCP's >> congestion avoidance algorithms have been defeated by these >> buffers. The lessons of the "RED manifesto" of 1997 have been >> forgotten or never learned by a new generation of engineers." >> >> Wednesday, October 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM >> WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 >> >> Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. >> >> See you there, >> Chuck >> President, Worcester Linux Users' Group >> http://www.wlug.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Oct. 2, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat

by Caleb Stepanian

I plan to attend. On 2 October 2013 18:07, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > I'd like to gauge how many people plan to go to this meeting, since it > could be popular enough that I might need to get a bigger room. If > people plan to attend, could they chime in? > > Thanks, > Chuck > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:01:41AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held at > > its regularly scheduled time: the 2nd Wednesday of the month, which is > > Wednesday, October 9, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus > > Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. > > > > This month we will have Jim Gettys from Bell Labs talk about Internet > > buffer bloat. This is the talk that has been rescheduled from April. > > > > "Internet buffer bloat, by Jim Gettys (Bell Labs) > > > > VOIP and teleconferencing often perform much more poorly on today's > > Internet than the Internet of a decade ago, despite great gains in > > bandwidth. Lots of fiber, cheap memory, smart hardware, variability of > > wireless goodput, changes in web browser behaviour, changes in TCP > > implementations, and a focus on benchmarking Internet performance > > solely by bandwidth, and engineer's natural reluctance to drop packets > > have conspired to encourage papering over problems by adding buffers; > > each of which may introduce latency when filled. > > > > The mistaken quest to never drop packets has destroyed interactivity > > under load, and often results in actual higher packet loss, as TCP's > > congestion avoidance algorithms have been defeated by these > > buffers. The lessons of the "RED manifesto" of 1997 have been > > forgotten or never learned by a new generation of engineers." > > > > Wednesday, October 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM > > WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 > > > > Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. > > > > See you there, > > Chuck > > President, Worcester Linux Users' Group > > http://www.wlug.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Oct. 2, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat

by James Gray

I plan to come On Oct 2, 2013 6:31 PM, "Arjan van der Velde" <noresult(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm considering going, but I'll have to see how it works out with my > schedule that Wednesday. > > -- Arjan > > > On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > > I'd like to gauge how many people plan to go to this meeting, since it > > could be popular enough that I might need to get a bigger room. If > > people plan to attend, could they chime in? > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:01:41AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held at > >> its regularly scheduled time: the 2nd Wednesday of the month, which is > >> Wednesday, October 9, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus > >> Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. > >> > >> This month we will have Jim Gettys from Bell Labs talk about Internet > >> buffer bloat. This is the talk that has been rescheduled from April. > >> > >> "Internet buffer bloat, by Jim Gettys (Bell Labs) > >> > >> VOIP and teleconferencing often perform much more poorly on today's > >> Internet than the Internet of a decade ago, despite great gains in > >> bandwidth. Lots of fiber, cheap memory, smart hardware, variability of > >> wireless goodput, changes in web browser behaviour, changes in TCP > >> implementations, and a focus on benchmarking Internet performance > >> solely by bandwidth, and engineer's natural reluctance to drop packets > >> have conspired to encourage papering over problems by adding buffers; > >> each of which may introduce latency when filled. > >> > >> The mistaken quest to never drop packets has destroyed interactivity > >> under load, and often results in actual higher packet loss, as TCP's > >> congestion avoidance algorithms have been defeated by these > >> buffers. The lessons of the "RED manifesto" of 1997 have been > >> forgotten or never learned by a new generation of engineers." > >> > >> Wednesday, October 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM > >> WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 > >> > >> Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. > >> > >> See you there, > >> Chuck > >> President, Worcester Linux Users' Group > >> http://www.wlug.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > Sent from my iCommodore 64 > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Oct. 2, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat

by Arjan van der Velde

I'm considering going, but I'll have to see how it works out with my schedule that Wednesday. -- Arjan On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > I'd like to gauge how many people plan to go to this meeting, since it > could be popular enough that I might need to get a bigger room. If > people plan to attend, could they chime in? > > Thanks, > Chuck > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:01:41AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held at >> its regularly scheduled time: the 2nd Wednesday of the month, which is >> Wednesday, October 9, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus >> Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. >> >> This month we will have Jim Gettys from Bell Labs talk about Internet >> buffer bloat. This is the talk that has been rescheduled from April. >> >> "Internet buffer bloat, by Jim Gettys (Bell Labs) >> >> VOIP and teleconferencing often perform much more poorly on today's >> Internet than the Internet of a decade ago, despite great gains in >> bandwidth. Lots of fiber, cheap memory, smart hardware, variability of >> wireless goodput, changes in web browser behaviour, changes in TCP >> implementations, and a focus on benchmarking Internet performance >> solely by bandwidth, and engineer's natural reluctance to drop packets >> have conspired to encourage papering over problems by adding buffers; >> each of which may introduce latency when filled. >> >> The mistaken quest to never drop packets has destroyed interactivity >> under load, and often results in actual higher packet loss, as TCP's >> congestion avoidance algorithms have been defeated by these >> buffers. The lessons of the "RED manifesto" of 1997 have been >> forgotten or never learned by a new generation of engineers." >> >> Wednesday, October 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM >> WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 >> >> Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. >> >> See you there, >> Chuck >> President, Worcester Linux Users' Group >> http://www.wlug.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Sent from my iCommodore 64

Oct. 2, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat

by Chuck Anderson

I'd like to gauge how many people plan to go to this meeting, since it could be popular enough that I might need to get a bigger room. If people plan to attend, could they chime in? Thanks, Chuck On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:01:41AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Hi folks, > > The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held at > its regularly scheduled time: the 2nd Wednesday of the month, which is > Wednesday, October 9, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus > Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. > > This month we will have Jim Gettys from Bell Labs talk about Internet > buffer bloat. This is the talk that has been rescheduled from April. > > "Internet buffer bloat, by Jim Gettys (Bell Labs) > > VOIP and teleconferencing often perform much more poorly on today's > Internet than the Internet of a decade ago, despite great gains in > bandwidth. Lots of fiber, cheap memory, smart hardware, variability of > wireless goodput, changes in web browser behaviour, changes in TCP > implementations, and a focus on benchmarking Internet performance > solely by bandwidth, and engineer's natural reluctance to drop packets > have conspired to encourage papering over problems by adding buffers; > each of which may introduce latency when filled. > > The mistaken quest to never drop packets has destroyed interactivity > under load, and often results in actual higher packet loss, as TCP's > congestion avoidance algorithms have been defeated by these > buffers. The lessons of the "RED manifesto" of 1997 have been > forgotten or never learned by a new generation of engineers." > > Wednesday, October 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM > WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 > > Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. > > See you there, > Chuck > President, Worcester Linux Users' Group > http://www.wlug.org/

Oct. 2, 2013

Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held at its regularly scheduled time: the 2nd Wednesday of the month, which is Wednesday, October 9, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. This month we will have Jim Gettys from Bell Labs talk about Internet buffer bloat. This is the talk that has been rescheduled from April. "Internet buffer bloat, by Jim Gettys (Bell Labs) VOIP and teleconferencing often perform much more poorly on today's Internet than the Internet of a decade ago, despite great gains in bandwidth. Lots of fiber, cheap memory, smart hardware, variability of wireless goodput, changes in web browser behaviour, changes in TCP implementations, and a focus on benchmarking Internet performance solely by bandwidth, and engineer's natural reluctance to drop packets have conspired to encourage papering over problems by adding buffers; each of which may introduce latency when filled. The mistaken quest to never drop packets has destroyed interactivity under load, and often results in actual higher packet loss, as TCP's congestion avoidance algorithms have been defeated by these buffers. The lessons of the "RED manifesto" of 1997 have been forgotten or never learned by a new generation of engineers." Wednesday, October 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

Sept. 23, 2013

Keysigning Party -- what to do AFTER

by Chuck Anderson

So you've attended a keysigning party and diligently checked people's key fingerprints & IDs. Now what should you do? Here is an overview of the process you should follow: 1. Sign: Look at the checklist you made at the Keysigning Party. For each user where you checked off that you verified their key information & ID, you need to import their key, verify the imported key's fingerprint matches the printout/notes that you verified at the party, sign their key(s), and send them back to them, preferrably signed+encrypted to their key. 2. Import: As you receive your signed key(s) from other people, import them to your keyring and then upload them to a keyserver. 3. Refresh: Periodically refresh your keyring from a keyserver so you get local copies of other people's keys with any additional signatures that were added since you last refreshed. Detailed instructions for each step: 1. Sign: Configure GPG to always ask for the certification level. Before signing keys, it is a good idea to set your GnuPG configuration to always ask you what certification level to assign to each key you sign. This indicates to others how carefully you verified the person's identity before you signed their key. If you don't do this, GnuPG will default to 0 which means you make no particular claim as to how careful you were. Edit $HOME/.gnupg/gpg.conf and add the following to the end: ask-cert-level You can also optionally change the default (in case you don't want to be asked every time): default-cert-level 2 1a. Sign: The CAFF Method. The easiest way to do this is to use CAFF (CA Fire & Forget) from the pgp-tools package on Fedora, or the signing-party package on Debian/Ubuntu. After installing the pgp-tools or signing-party package, you need to configure CAFF. In order to create your initial .caffrc, just run "caff" once. caff Then edit the .caffrc file in your home directory. The minimum settings you should set are: $CONFIG{'owner'} = 'YOUR FULL NAME'; $CONFIG{'email'} = 'YOUREMAIL@FOO'; $CONFIG{'bcc'} = 'YOUREMAIL@FOO'; $CONFIG{'keyid'} = [ qw{YOUR-KEY-ID YOUR-OTHER-KEY-ID-IF-YOU-HAVE-ANY} ]; $CONFIG{'local-user'} = [ qw{YOUR-KEY-ID YOUR-OTHER-KEY-ID-IF-YOU-HAVE-ANY} ]; $CONFIG{'also-encrypt-to'} = [ qw{YOUR-KEY-ID YOUR-OTHER-KEY-ID-IF-YOU-HAVE-ANY} ]; $CONFIG{'default-cert-level'} = '2'; # as above, but for CAFF specifically Note that the KEY-IDs CAFF wants are 8-byte ones rather than the usual 4-byte. Just use the last 16 digits of the fingerprint. You can also customize the email message body that CAFF will send out with each signed key. Then you just run CAFF like this: caff 0xKEY-ID1 0xKEY-ID2 0xKEY-ID3 ... ... etc to sign all those KEY-IDs. You can run it once for each person/key, or list every person's KEY-ID on a single run. CAFF will prompt you to sign people's keys one by one (which you should only do after you verify the fingerprint against your paper copy from the Keysigning Party), then it will email the signatures for each uid (email address) separately to that email address, signed+encrypted to that user. That proves that the user who can receive email at that email address, and who can decrypt the message, is the only user who can get the signature for that user/uid/email, and that is the only way they can get the signature for that uid/email (as long as you don't send your signed copy of their key to a keyserver or anywhere else--leave that to the recipient). 1b. Sign: The Manual Method. It is tricky to do the above manually without CAFF, but if you don't want to run CAFF or can't for some reason, you can sign the key and then export the signed key with gpg --export. Ideally, you should then encrypt that and send it to at least one of the email addresses listed in the uid(s) if not all of them. This is not as good as the CAFF method, because it only proves that at least ONE of the uids/email addresses is controlled by the user who has that key, and the person who controls that ONE email address can get your signature on ALL of the uids/email addresses. These commands should work for the manual method. First verify that the fingerprint matches your printout or notes from the Keysigning Party: gpg --fingerprint 0xRECIPIENT-KEY-ID Now sign the key: gpg --sign-key 0xRECIPIENT-KEY-ID Now export their key, signed+encrypted to both them and you. Store the result, ascii armoured, into a file: gpg --export 0xRECIPIENT-KEY-ID | gpg --encrypt --sign --armour --recipient 0xRECIPIENT-KEY-ID --recipient 0xYOUR-KEY-ID - > 0xRECIPIENT-KEY-ID-signed-key.asc You can verify that this came out right before emailing (since you signed/encrypted it ALSO to your own KEY-ID above) with the following: cat 0xRECIPIENT-KEY-ID-signed-key.asc | gpg -d | gpg --list-packets And you can import it to a test keyring to see the signatures like this: cat 0xRECIPIENT-KEY-ID-signed-key.asc | gpg --decrypt | gpg --import --keyring=testring.gpg --no-default-keyring gpg --list-sigs --fingerprint --keyring=testring.gpg --no-default-keyring Now that you've verified it is all correct, just attach the .asc file to an email and send it to the user's email address(es). 2. Import signed keys other people send you and then upload them. When you receive emails from other people with your signed key(s) (hopefully signed+encrypted in the email) you should import them as follows. If the sender used the CAFF Method, the entire email will be signed+encrypted and you can import the key like this: cat encrypted-email.asc | gpg --decrypt | gpg --import If the sender used the Manual Method, you will have a signed+encrypted attachment that you can import like so: cat 0xYOUR-KEY-ID-signed-key.asc | gpg --decrypt | gpg --import Now you should send your key back to a keyserver with the new signature(s) you just added: gpg --keyserver=subkeys.pgp.net --send-key 0xYOUR-KEY-ID 3. Refresh: Periodically refresh your keyring from a keyserver. In order to reap the benefits of the Web of Trust, you need to download other people's public keys so you can take advantage of the signatures on those keys to verify other people further out in the Web. As people upload their keys with additional signatures on them, your local copies become out of date so you need to refresh them to gain the additional signatures, any revocations, etc. To refresh a single key, just download that key from a keyserver: gpg --keyserver=subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 0xKEY-ID To refresh your entire keyring (do this sparingly as it does place quite a load on the keyserver): gpg --keyserver=subkeys.pgp.net --refresh-keys That's it!

Sept. 19, 2013

Follow up from key signing

by Eric Martin

Hi WLUG and BLU, I have signed all of the keys I have access to. If you haven't received an email from me, it's because either a) I can't get your key, or b) the email with your signed key was lost. Please email me directly if you're expecting a signed key from me. A few people expressed interest in the suite of tools I'm using to make signing easier, and also some visualization tools I'm playing with. They're all based on Debian's pgp-tools which can be called keysigning-party on your distribution. Hands down, the most useful tool is CA Fire and Forget or caff. It's in most distributions, and if it's not in your distro (or you're on a Mac) it's pretty easy to build. Just checkout it out from svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pgp-tools/trunk, and do a make all && make install clean Now that you have caff installed on your machine, it's time for some tweaks. Go ahead and run caff by typing caff at the command prompt. This will setup the folders and files you need that we'll be tweaking. 1) I *highly* suggest making a symlink from ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf -> ~/.caff/gnupghome/ via ln -s ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf ~/.caff/gnupghome This will have caff use your preferences in gpg.conf and it makes it easier to configure / use the way you want to. 2) edit ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf and set your default key, default keyserver (most of them sync with each other so it's not a big deal, but I prefer pool.sks-keyservers.net since it handles subkeys very well.) Also to note, keys can prefer certain servers so don't worry if gpg is asking a few different servers where things are. Also, if you haven't already, set your preferences for algorithms, hashes, and compression. *NOTE* this only applies to making new keys. You should still set the proper preferences on your key via gpg --edit-key <KEYID>. Lastly, I like to add ask-cert-level so gpg (and therefore caff) ask me what certification level to give to each signature 3) edit your ~/.caffrc file to customize your name, email address, and email template / procedure for signing keys. Caff looks for 16 digit keyids, not 8 so punch in the last 16 of your fingerprint for you key. Also, I like to bcc myself on the emails in case a message gets bounced so I can resend it easily via Thunderbird 4) Once those are edited and saved, you're all set! Grab your trusted list, and feed caff one or more keyids to handle via caff <KEYID> <KEYID> <KEYID...> Don't forget to verify the fingerprint caff / gpg show you with your trusted list. I'm attaching my gpg.conf and .caffrc files for those of you who are interested. I should probably put this up as a wiki / blog post at some point in time to I can go back and update / clarify it. Also, check out: sig2dot (included in pgp-tools / keysigning-party) which is a visualizer for the Web of Trust http://pgp.cs.uu.nl/ for PGP trust paths Cheers!

Sept. 19, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu usb/bluetooth/android

by Jason Couture

You'd need an android app that provides OBEX because android doesn't support it out of the box. But it should work. Not sure how it'd do on performance though. On Sep 15, 2013 1:16 PM, "Bill Mills-Curran" <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > I've had my shiny new HTC One for a while, and I've found that the > USB-connected file mount/transfer/etc speed with my Ubuntu (Precious) > is atrocious. I've tried both the nautilus (automount) interface and > the mtp-mount: both are bad. > > I'm wondering whether a usb-bluetooth adapter (my laptop does not have > bluetooth) would allow me to mount the smartphone filesystem and get > decent performance. > > TIA, > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Sept. 15, 2013

Ubuntu usb/bluetooth/android

by Bill Mills-Curran

I've had my shiny new HTC One for a while, and I've found that the USB-connected file mount/transfer/etc speed with my Ubuntu (Precious) is atrocious. I've tried both the nautilus (automount) interface and the mtp-mount: both are bad. I'm wondering whether a usb-bluetooth adapter (my laptop does not have bluetooth) would allow me to mount the smartphone filesystem and get decent performance. TIA, Bill

Sept. 15, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Next WLUG Meeting: Keysigning Party 9/11/2013

by Chuck Anderson

Those of you who created your keys and didn't upload them yet, you should upload them to: http://biglumber.com/x/web?keyring=4480 and/or preferrably send them to a public keyserver: gpg --keyserver=subkeys.pgp.net --send-keys <your-key-id(s)> so that we can sign them! After you have received signatures from people encrypted to your email address(es), import all of them, one at a time to your keyring: gpg --import <decrypted-email-with-your-signed-key> (In Mutt this is really easy--just view the attachement and hit "| gpg --import" to pipe the attachment through gpg) and then send them back to a public keyserver again so other people can see/use those signatures by refreshing their own keyring: gpg --keyserver=subkeys.pgp.net --send-keys <your-key-id(s)> gpg --keyserver=subkeys.pgp.net --refresh-keys On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 04:55:15PM -0400, Eric Martin wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi All, I forgot to mention that you should print out your fingerprint > and bring it to the meeting, to make sure that the one I have on file > for you is the correct one. If you aren't able to pre-register, print > out 15 copies or so to hand out to people at the meeting. You can get > the fingerprint by typing > > gpg --list-secret-keys | grep ^sec > For me, this is 146797fa. Yours will be different. > > gpg --fingerprint KEYID > > I'm looking forward to seeing everybody there. We'll have a short talk > on the how and why of PGP, then we'll adjourn to Tech Pizza for dinner. > > On 9/11/13 10:37 AM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > Now is a good time to check if your key is expired and/or is using a > > weak algorithm or key size, and generate a new key if necessary. > > > > I followed the steps here to start a transition from an ancient 1024D > > (DSA 1024-bit) key to a modern 4096R (RSA 4096-bit) key: > > > > http://www.apache.org/dev/key-transition.html > > > > See you all tonight! > > > > On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 10:48:00PM -0400, Eric Martin wrote: > >> Just a reminder that this week I'll be giving a talk on PGP and running a > >> key signing. Please upload your public key to the keyring before the > >> meeting to register for the key signing. It is possible to participate > >> without registering but it's a lot easier if you register. > >> > >> Please don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Eric Martin > >> <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >>> > > On Wednesday, September 11th 2013 I'll be running a PGP Key Signing > > party. PGP stands for Pretty Good Privacy and was developed by Phil > > Zimmerman in 1991 for secure communications. Signing keys allows you to > > say that you trust somebody's key, and extends the Web of Trust which > > helps everybody. > > > > To participate, please bring your public key's fingerprint, and at least > > (2) forms of ID (Government issued photo ID is the best way to go). If > > you don't yet have a public key, follow the directions for 'Preparing > > for the Party' from this [1] Key Signing Party HOWTO. > > > > Additionally, please upload your public key to our keyring for this > > event here [2]. I'll give a brief talk on PGP, and then we'll go > > through everybody's keys. > > > > What not to bring: A computer. Keys are signed at home, we just verify > > them at the Key Signing. > > > > [1] > > > > > http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.htm… > > [2] http://biglumber.com/x/web?keyring=4480

Sept. 12, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Next WLUG Meeting: Keysigning Party 9/11/2013

by Eric Martin

I'm leaving work now so I might be a few minutes late. On Sep 11, 2013 4:55 PM, "Eric Martin" <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi All, I forgot to mention that you should print out your fingerprint and > bring it to the meeting, to make sure that the one I have on file for you > is the correct one. If you aren't able to pre-register, print out 15 > copies or so to hand out to people at the meeting. You can get the > fingerprint by typing > > gpg --list-secret-keys | grep ^sec > For me, this is 146797fa. Yours will be different. > > gpg --fingerprint KEYID > > I'm looking forward to seeing everybody there. We'll have a short talk on > the how and why of PGP, then we'll adjourn to Tech Pizza for dinner. > > On 9/11/13 10:37 AM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > Now is a good time to check if your key is expired and/or is using a > > weak algorithm or key size, and generate a new key if necessary. > > > > I followed the steps here to start a transition from an ancient 1024D > > (DSA 1024-bit) key to a modern 4096R (RSA 4096-bit) key: > > > > http://www.apache.org/dev/key-transition.html > > > > See you all tonight! > > > > On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 10:48:00PM -0400, Eric Martin wrote: > >> Just a reminder that this week I'll be giving a talk on PGP and running > a > >> key signing. Please upload your public key to the keyring before the > >> meeting to register for the key signing. It is possible to participate > >> without registering but it's a lot easier if you register. > >> > >> Please don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Eric Martin > >> <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >>> > > On Wednesday, September 11th 2013 I'll be running a PGP Key Signing > > party. PGP stands for Pretty Good Privacy and was developed by Phil > > Zimmerman in 1991 for secure communications. Signing keys allows you to > > say that you trust somebody's key, and extends the Web of Trust which > > helps everybody. > > > > To participate, please bring your public key's fingerprint, and at least > > (2) forms of ID (Government issued photo ID is the best way to go). If > > you don't yet have a public key, follow the directions for 'Preparing > > for the Party' from this [1] Key Signing Party HOWTO. > > > > Additionally, please upload your public key to our keyring for this > > event here [2]. I'll give a brief talk on PGP, and then we'll go > > through everybody's keys. > > > > What not to bring: A computer. Keys are signed at home, we just verify > > them at the Key Signing. > > > > [1] > > > > > http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.htm… > > [2] http://biglumber.com/x/web?keyring=4480 > > > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wlug mailing list > >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > - -- > Eric Martin > Key Fingerprint = C74F 1EBF 2E80 7984 8CB5 064E BF17 D34C C704 B30F > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSMNizAAoJEL8X00zHBLMPCk4QAKLjQJSh4giYnOsCUGsuJuV9 > /NzBkG701IJACLFBNeehMB/6jFYk6sNKCYRPSFVMOh2aHogndr+OhHPujAR7mGOv > yShdjDvSNGGNfI4gXcxBvz3+0Hol20DEMQbOaN6WcrLiUG8j5ma5a//V/3+CVCEk > SgYhCg6r1v71Zq+CfpcDoByX8SRHmfp2/48zEUlDv9JCpuE/X9x33L0mhN1wYlGY > zp/jZT3tXVdgkAz/pCLyScq4cMLagj8IkrzlCMT9vd313WVQ/lRm05QKFVlR67XM > 9mn0poXP7E04Tl3Z4q8fgO6wM8wdVG4r6cYCUuICysNjhU773JoY7PyxOLmgXggB > BEWlJD6TD/hPFmFVM6T+JoCyDSsh3bEnpefehbW12PXKxPuArLZ5xXF1JHHe3hFb > YcH/9aT+xWWyIUxRfEj1GBbIGDESo9KRmmSiuo0EBFYVSNYtyaEFqoAUsqFS7BmS > acQ/x3Tn7uidOT1IwXJqX9BBSpFJlzqMleLIDjcPezuzr04f3OVqGsZdjJ8iS3M5 > cV2P6fdJroJRp9WpaCBkrK2U3rLpqSwTZzn/RylCR9BWSP2nNrEButp62+uwAc3I > 69HQAcrpu/DqjP9yVrADe1dnnRKD4s1+lusr23QXETqXEJ0mJHQ4LlJGc/yH/DPu > WePyoSrB+xHgsKj8i/Lv > =n+42 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >

Sept. 11, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Next WLUG Meeting: Keysigning Party 9/11/2013

by Eric Martin

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi All, I forgot to mention that you should print out your fingerprint and bring it to the meeting, to make sure that the one I have on file for you is the correct one. If you aren't able to pre-register, print out 15 copies or so to hand out to people at the meeting. You can get the fingerprint by typing gpg --list-secret-keys | grep ^sec For me, this is 146797fa. Yours will be different. gpg --fingerprint KEYID I'm looking forward to seeing everybody there. We'll have a short talk on the how and why of PGP, then we'll adjourn to Tech Pizza for dinner. On 9/11/13 10:37 AM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Now is a good time to check if your key is expired and/or is using a > weak algorithm or key size, and generate a new key if necessary. > > I followed the steps here to start a transition from an ancient 1024D > (DSA 1024-bit) key to a modern 4096R (RSA 4096-bit) key: > > http://www.apache.org/dev/key-transition.html > > See you all tonight! > > On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 10:48:00PM -0400, Eric Martin wrote: >> Just a reminder that this week I'll be giving a talk on PGP and running a >> key signing. Please upload your public key to the keyring before the >> meeting to register for the key signing. It is possible to participate >> without registering but it's a lot easier if you register. >> >> Please don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions. >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Eric Martin >> <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> > On Wednesday, September 11th 2013 I'll be running a PGP Key Signing > party. PGP stands for Pretty Good Privacy and was developed by Phil > Zimmerman in 1991 for secure communications. Signing keys allows you to > say that you trust somebody's key, and extends the Web of Trust which > helps everybody. > > To participate, please bring your public key's fingerprint, and at least > (2) forms of ID (Government issued photo ID is the best way to go). If > you don't yet have a public key, follow the directions for 'Preparing > for the Party' from this [1] Key Signing Party HOWTO. > > Additionally, please upload your public key to our keyring for this > event here [2]. I'll give a brief talk on PGP, and then we'll go > through everybody's keys. > > What not to bring: A computer. Keys are signed at home, we just verify > them at the Key Signing. > > [1] > > http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.htm… > [2] http://biglumber.com/x/web?keyring=4480 > >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug - -- Eric Martin Key Fingerprint = C74F 1EBF 2E80 7984 8CB5 064E BF17 D34C C704 B30F -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSMNizAAoJEL8X00zHBLMPCk4QAKLjQJSh4giYnOsCUGsuJuV9 /NzBkG701IJACLFBNeehMB/6jFYk6sNKCYRPSFVMOh2aHogndr+OhHPujAR7mGOv yShdjDvSNGGNfI4gXcxBvz3+0Hol20DEMQbOaN6WcrLiUG8j5ma5a//V/3+CVCEk SgYhCg6r1v71Zq+CfpcDoByX8SRHmfp2/48zEUlDv9JCpuE/X9x33L0mhN1wYlGY zp/jZT3tXVdgkAz/pCLyScq4cMLagj8IkrzlCMT9vd313WVQ/lRm05QKFVlR67XM 9mn0poXP7E04Tl3Z4q8fgO6wM8wdVG4r6cYCUuICysNjhU773JoY7PyxOLmgXggB BEWlJD6TD/hPFmFVM6T+JoCyDSsh3bEnpefehbW12PXKxPuArLZ5xXF1JHHe3hFb YcH/9aT+xWWyIUxRfEj1GBbIGDESo9KRmmSiuo0EBFYVSNYtyaEFqoAUsqFS7BmS acQ/x3Tn7uidOT1IwXJqX9BBSpFJlzqMleLIDjcPezuzr04f3OVqGsZdjJ8iS3M5 cV2P6fdJroJRp9WpaCBkrK2U3rLpqSwTZzn/RylCR9BWSP2nNrEButp62+uwAc3I 69HQAcrpu/DqjP9yVrADe1dnnRKD4s1+lusr23QXETqXEJ0mJHQ4LlJGc/yH/DPu WePyoSrB+xHgsKj8i/Lv =n+42 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 11, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Next WLUG Meeting: Keysigning Party 9/11/2013

by Chuck Anderson

Now is a good time to check if your key is expired and/or is using a weak algorithm or key size, and generate a new key if necessary. I followed the steps here to start a transition from an ancient 1024D (DSA 1024-bit) key to a modern 4096R (RSA 4096-bit) key: http://www.apache.org/dev/key-transition.html See you all tonight! On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 10:48:00PM -0400, Eric Martin wrote: > Just a reminder that this week I'll be giving a talk on PGP and running a > key signing. Please upload your public key to the keyring before the > meeting to register for the key signing. It is possible to participate > without registering but it's a lot easier if you register. > > Please don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions. > > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Eric Martin > <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > On Wednesday, September 11th 2013 I'll be running a PGP Key Signing > > party. PGP stands for Pretty Good Privacy and was developed by Phil > > Zimmerman in 1991 for secure communications. Signing keys allows you to > > say that you trust somebody's key, and extends the Web of Trust which > > helps everybody. > > > > To participate, please bring your public key's fingerprint, and at least > > (2) forms of ID (Government issued photo ID is the best way to go). If > > you don't yet have a public key, follow the directions for 'Preparing > > for the Party' from this [1] Key Signing Party HOWTO. > > > > Additionally, please upload your public key to our keyring for this > > event here [2]. I'll give a brief talk on PGP, and then we'll go > > through everybody's keys. > > > > What not to bring: A computer. Keys are signed at home, we just verify > > them at the Key Signing. > > > > [1] > > > > http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.htm… > > [2] http://biglumber.com/x/web?keyring=4480 > > > > - -- > > Eric Martin > > Key Fingerprint = C74F 1EBF 2E80 7984 8CB5 064E BF17 D34C C704 B30F > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSIBdBAAoJEL8X00zHBLMPIP8P/AmMZiaHpVo3Mq72yOXONUbX > > bUUFKtK2qCFw0g8uAJ63D5hL7kDTbWXlTWsm+73jvkaofsKyTP8hNR0ulr5ni7dw > > X7EEQYSpK0MufQzEqUpfEoIa6I8Pjfa5qIWNOAuJDJpAwR8+0S2urGcQML0YarFG > > fys0HHWW69kYG8CTGZw/0ATmBdVZFiZEjXFk6R5wIB33SvXtzuPTLltoded5bpwK > > svtZf4Fa3QlaEBlg25AKWFpa6OOTt3eUBQU/KNGjhfIrLkhpsbuhcbAD6C6DPtzk > > 25P/9TWCSaRAcyT29amGG5qLrFEHklAic6UcOjIJtlN6ywcHSbVtHOcxIA4OmBLy > > e0HeskGlqu/qhqgZxDQMWbvMUdzIRqCa+pMzxGI40+w6tHnlTGPW1MZbZJxhfStW > > AC720w6U+q/b9iCiZHF634gbvIL6Da3G2G20Vhr4h6s1rOX53sfgIqmoB66A6SPC > > P6MUkO42oPdEQ7WE+69f7VHGyXgkEnJUaEXGYoBdILV3qyHyNJNKF/X7o0Vtf+xn > > rJTokOgCEyg5xRtzQFlYpdiIoR/BMHTteKsyki6px2hn4bCsNItOJNhG8IutVo/o > > qofPVIyJaiA5o7G7z8QNeppy4NBq0h752T0lU/gSs9ojhBzQ9kVuhR4PNL6QcZ98 > > +rLxS3s1fEsTmakIpo2G > > =lNN3 > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 11, 2013

Re: [Wlug] [SPF:Probably_Forged] Re: Next WLUG Meeting: Keysigning Party 9/11/2013

by The Hammer

..I won't be able to get there either. Too much on my plate. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Bob <Robert.Athol.Mass(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Darn..... Three meetings on Wed. evening; one in Rhode Island; one in > Worcester; and one in Athol. And, I'm supposed to be retired! Going to > have to get my key signed another day. > > Bob > > On 8/29/2013 11:53 PM, Eric Martin wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > On Wednesday, September 11th 2013 I'll be running a PGP Key Signing > > party. PGP stands for Pretty Good Privacy and was developed by Phil > > Zimmerman in 1991 for secure communications. Signing keys allows you to > > say that you trust somebody's key, and extends the Web of Trust which > > helps everybody. > > > > To participate, please bring your public key's fingerprint, and at least > > (2) forms of ID (Government issued photo ID is the best way to go). If > > you don't yet have a public key, follow the directions for 'Preparing > > for the Party' from this [1] Key Signing Party HOWTO. > > > > Additionally, please upload your public key to our keyring for this > > event here [2]. I'll give a brief talk on PGP, and then we'll go > > through everybody's keys. > > > > What not to bring: A computer. Keys are signed at home, we just verify > > them at the Key Signing. > > > > [1] > > > http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.htm… > > [2] http://biglumber.com/x/web?keyring=4480 > > > > - -- > > Eric Martin > > Key Fingerprint = C74F 1EBF 2E80 7984 8CB5 064E BF17 D34C C704 B30F > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSIBdBAAoJEL8X00zHBLMPIP8P/AmMZiaHpVo3Mq72yOXONUbX > > bUUFKtK2qCFw0g8uAJ63D5hL7kDTbWXlTWsm+73jvkaofsKyTP8hNR0ulr5ni7dw > > X7EEQYSpK0MufQzEqUpfEoIa6I8Pjfa5qIWNOAuJDJpAwR8+0S2urGcQML0YarFG > > fys0HHWW69kYG8CTGZw/0ATmBdVZFiZEjXFk6R5wIB33SvXtzuPTLltoded5bpwK > > svtZf4Fa3QlaEBlg25AKWFpa6OOTt3eUBQU/KNGjhfIrLkhpsbuhcbAD6C6DPtzk > > 25P/9TWCSaRAcyT29amGG5qLrFEHklAic6UcOjIJtlN6ywcHSbVtHOcxIA4OmBLy > > e0HeskGlqu/qhqgZxDQMWbvMUdzIRqCa+pMzxGI40+w6tHnlTGPW1MZbZJxhfStW > > AC720w6U+q/b9iCiZHF634gbvIL6Da3G2G20Vhr4h6s1rOX53sfgIqmoB66A6SPC > > P6MUkO42oPdEQ7WE+69f7VHGyXgkEnJUaEXGYoBdILV3qyHyNJNKF/X7o0Vtf+xn > > rJTokOgCEyg5xRtzQFlYpdiIoR/BMHTteKsyki6px2hn4bCsNItOJNhG8IutVo/o > > qofPVIyJaiA5o7G7z8QNeppy4NBq0h752T0lU/gSs9ojhBzQ9kVuhR4PNL6QcZ98 > > +rLxS3s1fEsTmakIpo2G > > =lNN3 > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Sept. 11, 2013

[SPF:Probably_Forged] Re: Next WLUG Meeting: Keysigning Party 9/11/2013

by Bob

Darn..... Three meetings on Wed. evening; one in Rhode Island; one in Worcester; and one in Athol. And, I'm supposed to be retired! Going to have to get my key signed another day. Bob On 8/29/2013 11:53 PM, Eric Martin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Wednesday, September 11th 2013 I'll be running a PGP Key Signing > party. PGP stands for Pretty Good Privacy and was developed by Phil > Zimmerman in 1991 for secure communications. Signing keys allows you to > say that you trust somebody's key, and extends the Web of Trust which > helps everybody. > > To participate, please bring your public key's fingerprint, and at least > (2) forms of ID (Government issued photo ID is the best way to go). If > you don't yet have a public key, follow the directions for 'Preparing > for the Party' from this [1] Key Signing Party HOWTO. > > Additionally, please upload your public key to our keyring for this > event here [2]. I'll give a brief talk on PGP, and then we'll go > through everybody's keys. > > What not to bring: A computer. Keys are signed at home, we just verify > them at the Key Signing. > > [1] > http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.htm… > [2] http://biglumber.com/x/web?keyring=4480 > > - -- > Eric Martin > Key Fingerprint = C74F 1EBF 2E80 7984 8CB5 064E BF17 D34C C704 B30F > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSIBdBAAoJEL8X00zHBLMPIP8P/AmMZiaHpVo3Mq72yOXONUbX > bUUFKtK2qCFw0g8uAJ63D5hL7kDTbWXlTWsm+73jvkaofsKyTP8hNR0ulr5ni7dw > X7EEQYSpK0MufQzEqUpfEoIa6I8Pjfa5qIWNOAuJDJpAwR8+0S2urGcQML0YarFG > fys0HHWW69kYG8CTGZw/0ATmBdVZFiZEjXFk6R5wIB33SvXtzuPTLltoded5bpwK > svtZf4Fa3QlaEBlg25AKWFpa6OOTt3eUBQU/KNGjhfIrLkhpsbuhcbAD6C6DPtzk > 25P/9TWCSaRAcyT29amGG5qLrFEHklAic6UcOjIJtlN6ywcHSbVtHOcxIA4OmBLy > e0HeskGlqu/qhqgZxDQMWbvMUdzIRqCa+pMzxGI40+w6tHnlTGPW1MZbZJxhfStW > AC720w6U+q/b9iCiZHF634gbvIL6Da3G2G20Vhr4h6s1rOX53sfgIqmoB66A6SPC > P6MUkO42oPdEQ7WE+69f7VHGyXgkEnJUaEXGYoBdILV3qyHyNJNKF/X7o0Vtf+xn > rJTokOgCEyg5xRtzQFlYpdiIoR/BMHTteKsyki6px2hn4bCsNItOJNhG8IutVo/o > qofPVIyJaiA5o7G7z8QNeppy4NBq0h752T0lU/gSs9ojhBzQ9kVuhR4PNL6QcZ98 > +rLxS3s1fEsTmakIpo2G > =lNN3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Sept. 10, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Next WLUG Meeting: Keysigning Party 9/11/2013

by Eric Martin

Just a reminder that this week I'll be giving a talk on PGP and running a key signing. Please upload your public key to the keyring before the meeting to register for the key signing. It is possible to participate without registering but it's a lot easier if you register. Please don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Wednesday, September 11th 2013 I'll be running a PGP Key Signing > party. PGP stands for Pretty Good Privacy and was developed by Phil > Zimmerman in 1991 for secure communications. Signing keys allows you to > say that you trust somebody's key, and extends the Web of Trust which > helps everybody. > > To participate, please bring your public key's fingerprint, and at least > (2) forms of ID (Government issued photo ID is the best way to go). If > you don't yet have a public key, follow the directions for 'Preparing > for the Party' from this [1] Key Signing Party HOWTO. > > Additionally, please upload your public key to our keyring for this > event here [2]. I'll give a brief talk on PGP, and then we'll go > through everybody's keys. > > What not to bring: A computer. Keys are signed at home, we just verify > them at the Key Signing. > > [1] > > http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.htm… > [2] http://biglumber.com/x/web?keyring=4480 > > - -- > Eric Martin > Key Fingerprint = C74F 1EBF 2E80 7984 8CB5 064E BF17 D34C C704 B30F > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSIBdBAAoJEL8X00zHBLMPIP8P/AmMZiaHpVo3Mq72yOXONUbX > bUUFKtK2qCFw0g8uAJ63D5hL7kDTbWXlTWsm+73jvkaofsKyTP8hNR0ulr5ni7dw > X7EEQYSpK0MufQzEqUpfEoIa6I8Pjfa5qIWNOAuJDJpAwR8+0S2urGcQML0YarFG > fys0HHWW69kYG8CTGZw/0ATmBdVZFiZEjXFk6R5wIB33SvXtzuPTLltoded5bpwK > svtZf4Fa3QlaEBlg25AKWFpa6OOTt3eUBQU/KNGjhfIrLkhpsbuhcbAD6C6DPtzk > 25P/9TWCSaRAcyT29amGG5qLrFEHklAic6UcOjIJtlN6ywcHSbVtHOcxIA4OmBLy > e0HeskGlqu/qhqgZxDQMWbvMUdzIRqCa+pMzxGI40+w6tHnlTGPW1MZbZJxhfStW > AC720w6U+q/b9iCiZHF634gbvIL6Da3G2G20Vhr4h6s1rOX53sfgIqmoB66A6SPC > P6MUkO42oPdEQ7WE+69f7VHGyXgkEnJUaEXGYoBdILV3qyHyNJNKF/X7o0Vtf+xn > rJTokOgCEyg5xRtzQFlYpdiIoR/BMHTteKsyki6px2hn4bCsNItOJNhG8IutVo/o > qofPVIyJaiA5o7G7z8QNeppy4NBq0h752T0lU/gSs9ojhBzQ9kVuhR4PNL6QcZ98 > +rLxS3s1fEsTmakIpo2G > =lNN3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- Eric Martin

Sept. 9, 2013

Next WLUG Meeting: Keysigning Party 9/11/2013

by Eric Martin

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Wednesday, September 11th 2013 I'll be running a PGP Key Signing party. PGP stands for Pretty Good Privacy and was developed by Phil Zimmerman in 1991 for secure communications. Signing keys allows you to say that you trust somebody's key, and extends the Web of Trust which helps everybody. To participate, please bring your public key's fingerprint, and at least (2) forms of ID (Government issued photo ID is the best way to go). If you don't yet have a public key, follow the directions for 'Preparing for the Party' from this [1] Key Signing Party HOWTO. Additionally, please upload your public key to our keyring for this event here [2]. I'll give a brief talk on PGP, and then we'll go through everybody's keys. What not to bring: A computer. Keys are signed at home, we just verify them at the Key Signing. [1] http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.htm… [2] http://biglumber.com/x/web?keyring=4480 - -- Eric Martin Key Fingerprint = C74F 1EBF 2E80 7984 8CB5 064E BF17 D34C C704 B30F -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSIBdBAAoJEL8X00zHBLMPIP8P/AmMZiaHpVo3Mq72yOXONUbX bUUFKtK2qCFw0g8uAJ63D5hL7kDTbWXlTWsm+73jvkaofsKyTP8hNR0ulr5ni7dw X7EEQYSpK0MufQzEqUpfEoIa6I8Pjfa5qIWNOAuJDJpAwR8+0S2urGcQML0YarFG fys0HHWW69kYG8CTGZw/0ATmBdVZFiZEjXFk6R5wIB33SvXtzuPTLltoded5bpwK svtZf4Fa3QlaEBlg25AKWFpa6OOTt3eUBQU/KNGjhfIrLkhpsbuhcbAD6C6DPtzk 25P/9TWCSaRAcyT29amGG5qLrFEHklAic6UcOjIJtlN6ywcHSbVtHOcxIA4OmBLy e0HeskGlqu/qhqgZxDQMWbvMUdzIRqCa+pMzxGI40+w6tHnlTGPW1MZbZJxhfStW AC720w6U+q/b9iCiZHF634gbvIL6Da3G2G20Vhr4h6s1rOX53sfgIqmoB66A6SPC P6MUkO42oPdEQ7WE+69f7VHGyXgkEnJUaEXGYoBdILV3qyHyNJNKF/X7o0Vtf+xn rJTokOgCEyg5xRtzQFlYpdiIoR/BMHTteKsyki6px2hn4bCsNItOJNhG8IutVo/o qofPVIyJaiA5o7G7z8QNeppy4NBq0h752T0lU/gSs9ojhBzQ9kVuhR4PNL6QcZ98 +rLxS3s1fEsTmakIpo2G =lNN3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 30, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Next WLUG meeting August 14th!?!

by Chuck Anderson

This Wednesday 7pm in the Campus Center as usual. I updated the website. On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 08:22:52PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang! > > Whose up for having a WLUG meeting, talking shop and eating some pizza?!? > > If someone has a topic they'd like to talk about please step forward > otherwise this will just be a general discussion meeting. > > Chuck / Doug... When is this going to be? > > Later, > Tim.

Aug. 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Next WLUG meeting August 14th!?!

by joel d

I will not be there this month as I am out of town. Looking forward to September and following month meetings.

Aug. 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Greetings from Matt C

by The Hammer

Hi Matt, Info can be found at: http://wlug.org/ regards, Ron On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Matt Curcio <matt.curcio.ri(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi all, > I recently joined the listserve. Where do you have the meetings? and at > what time? I would like to stop by. > > -- > Thank You, > > Matt Curcio > M: 401-316-5358 > E: matt.curcio.ri(a)gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Greetings from Matt C

by The Hammer

Hi Matt, Info can be found at: http://wlug.org/ regards, Ron ________________________________ From: Matt Curcio <matt.curcio.ri(a)gmail.com> To: Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:45 PM Subject: [Wlug] Greetings from Matt C Hi all, I recently joined the listserve. Where do you have the meetings? and at what time? I would like to stop by. -- Thank You, Matt Curcio M: 401-316-5358 E: matt.curcio.ri(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 12, 2013

Greetings from Matt C

by Matt Curcio

Hi all, I recently joined the listserve. Where do you have the meetings? and at what time? I would like to stop by. -- Thank You, Matt Curcio M: 401-316-5358 E: matt.curcio.ri(a)gmail.com

Aug. 12, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Next WLUG meeting August 14th!?!

by Eric Martin

I think we're doing a key signing in September, but I am definitely interested in hearing you talk about your internship at MS. Sounds like that covers October! Anybody have anything for this month? Also,I too should be able to make it and am perfectly happy with s round table discussion. On Aug 8, 2013 9:01 PM, "Henrique" <nican(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Hey! > > I will not be able to come to this meeting, but next meeting, if people > are interested, I can talk about my 10-week experience in working at an > internship at Microsoft. > > Cheers, > Henrique. > > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:11 PM, The Hammer <hammerron(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> I will definitely plan to attend if we have a meeting, topic or not. >> >> Ron >> >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey Gang! >>> >>> Whose up for having a WLUG meeting, talking shop and eating some pizza?!? >>> >>> If someone has a topic they'd like to talk about please step forward >>> otherwise this will just be a general discussion meeting. >>> >>> Chuck / Doug... When is this going to be? >>> >>> Later, >>> Tim. >>> >>> -- >>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >>> constituents as "consumers". >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 9, 2013

Next WLUG meeting August 14th!?!

by Robert Schwein

I'll definitely be there. Bob

Aug. 9, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Next WLUG meeting August 14th!?!

by Henrique

Hey! I will not be able to come to this meeting, but next meeting, if people are interested, I can talk about my 10-week experience in working at an internship at Microsoft. Cheers, Henrique. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:11 PM, The Hammer <hammerron(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I will definitely plan to attend if we have a meeting, topic or not. > > Ron > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey Gang! >> >> Whose up for having a WLUG meeting, talking shop and eating some pizza?!? >> >> If someone has a topic they'd like to talk about please step forward >> otherwise this will just be a general discussion meeting. >> >> Chuck / Doug... When is this going to be? >> >> Later, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 9, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Next WLUG meeting August 14th!?!

by The Hammer

I will definitely plan to attend if we have a meeting, topic or not. Ron On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang! > > Whose up for having a WLUG meeting, talking shop and eating some pizza?!? > > If someone has a topic they'd like to talk about please step forward > otherwise this will just be a general discussion meeting. > > Chuck / Doug... When is this going to be? > > Later, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 9, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Next WLUG meeting August 14th!?!

by Frank Sweetser

I'd be up for it! Anyone have any topics they'd want to see? I have one or two future ones in mind, but no time to prepare any slides. Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Hey Gang! > >Whose up for having a WLUG meeting, talking shop and eating some >pizza?!? > >If someone has a topic they'd like to talk about please step forward >otherwise this will just be a general discussion meeting. > >Chuck / Doug... When is this going to be? > >Later, >Tim. > >-- >I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >constituents as "consumers". > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Aug. 8, 2013

Next WLUG meeting August 14th!?!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang! Whose up for having a WLUG meeting, talking shop and eating some pizza?!? If someone has a topic they'd like to talk about please step forward otherwise this will just be a general discussion meeting. Chuck / Doug... When is this going to be? Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Aug. 8, 2013

Re: [Wlug] MIT Fleamarket

by soup

Yep, definitely. Just a heads up there's also a great electronics surplus place in Manchester, NH. Take care, soup On 7/13/2013 13:10, killaken2000 . wrote: > Thanks for reminding me. I have been wanting to go for a while. > > I'm interested in old/used/surplus electronics testing equipment > (Oscilloscopes, Freq Counters, etc) do they sometimes have that there? > > take care, > Rich > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] MIT Fleamarket

by killaken2000 .

Thanks. Either way I would like to check it out at least once and see what it's all about. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 13:10:44 -0400, killaken2000 . wrote: > > Thanks for reminding me. I have been wanting to go for a while. > > > > I'm interested in old/used/surplus electronics testing equipment > > (Oscilloscopes, Freq Counters, etc) do they sometimes have that there? > > I haven't been to the flea in ages, but that's exactly the kind of stuff > they had. > -- > Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> > > MIT VI-3 1987 - Congrats MIT Engineers 5 straight men's hoops tourney > Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 > Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- http://ProgFree.org > Project lead for Gutenprint -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net > > "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." > --Eric Crampton > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] MIT Fleamarket

by Robert Krawitz

On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 13:10:44 -0400, killaken2000 . wrote: > Thanks for reminding me. I have been wanting to go for a while. > > I'm interested in old/used/surplus electronics testing equipment > (Oscilloscopes, Freq Counters, etc) do they sometimes have that there? I haven't been to the flea in ages, but that's exactly the kind of stuff they had. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> MIT VI-3 1987 - Congrats MIT Engineers 5 straight men's hoops tourney Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- http://ProgFree.org Project lead for Gutenprint -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

July 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] MIT Fleamarket

by killaken2000 .

Thanks for reminding me. I have been wanting to go for a while. I'm interested in old/used/surplus electronics testing equipment (Oscilloscopes, Freq Counters, etc) do they sometimes have that there? take care, Rich

July 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] MIT Fleamarket

by John Stoffel

The> I am thinking of checking out the MIT Flea Market to be held on July 21 The> http://www.mitflea.com/ The> I've never been. Could any one tell me more about it? Do you recommend? It's fun, I've only been once, maybe twice. But being out here, it's a haul... and make sure you bring cash as well.

July 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] MIT Fleamarket

by soup

It's not the sprawling bazaar it once was but if the weather's good, it's definitely worth checking out. Ham radio and computer gear, (primarily electronic) musical instruments and rack stuff, surplus, some new stuff. I like it for random bits and bobs that might not make sense to buy mail order after shipping, or used stuff I don't yet know I want, knobs, enclosures, etc. I don't like the, now, horrific parking situation and new higher rates for both buyers and sellers. Make sure you print out the flyer to save a buck. I'm not sure how much longer I'll keep going at six damn bucks, especially with gas where it is but I've been going since the 90s and inertia. You gotta go at least once. take care, soup On 7/13/2013 09:59, The Hammer wrote: > I am thinking of checking out the MIT Flea Market to be held on July 21 > http://www.mitflea.com/ > I've never been. Could any one tell me more about it? Do you recommend? > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 13, 2013

MIT Fleamarket

by The Hammer

I am thinking of checking out the MIT Flea Market to be held on July 21 http://www.mitflea.com/ I've never been. Could any one tell me more about it? Do you recommend? Ron

July 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Did anybody make it to the meeting last night?

by Bob

I got stuck in P-Town. Mosquitoes ate me alive. Bob On 7/11/2013 7:45 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > I hope somebody showed up! >

July 12, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Unable to make it tonight...

by killaken2000 .

I made it last night. Seven people there uncluding me (rich).

July 12, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Did anybody make it to the meeting last night?

by Keith Wright

> From: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > > I hope somebody showed up! I think there were six people, including me. It's better when there is a speaker. Will Jim Gettys be re-scheduled? -- Keith

July 12, 2013

Did anybody make it to the meeting last night?

by Tim Keller

I hope somebody showed up! -- Sent from my mobile device I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 11, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Unable to make it tonight...

by Eric Martin

Same boat. On Jul 10, 2013 6:04 PM, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Unfortunately I have had something come up and I'll be unable to make > it... Sorry for the short notice. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 10, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Unable to make it tonight...

by killaken2000 .

Hello. Is anyone at the student building

July 10, 2013

Unable to make it tonight...

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Unfortunately I have had something come up and I'll be unable to make it... Sorry for the short notice. Thanks, Tim.

July 10, 2013

Seeking volunteer to help with local non-profit's website

by Mike Peckar

Literacy Volunteers of Greater Worcester, lvgw.org, is seeking a volunteer for a one-off project to refresh their website. This is not an ongoing commitment. Not sure if the backend tools the use for site management are linux-based, but I suspect they are not. Their goals are: 1. Updating LVGW's website to make it more user friendly, interactive and functional 2. The current website needs some work to make it easier to use and update. This person would also mentor a staff member about these issues Please contact me offline if you are interested. They are also separately looking for a volunteer archivist to create an online database of their historical and research data. Hope you don't think this crosses the line of fair use of this list, but it is for a good cause. Mike

July 8, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Are we having a meeting on the 10th?

by Chuck Anderson

Sure, let's meet on the 10th. I should be able to make it, and maybe even show off freshly-minted Fedora 19. On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 02:50:34PM -0400, Eric Martin wrote: > Failing no topic, we can always do a round table discussion like we used to. > > On 7/5/13 2:34 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > > > I presume we're actually going to have a WLUG meeting this month? > > > > Would anybody like to step forward and give a talk? > > > > Thanks, > > Tim.

July 8, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Are we having a meeting on the 10th?

by Eric Martin

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Failing no topic, we can always do a round table discussion like we used to. On 7/5/13 2:34 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang, > > I presume we're actually going to have a WLUG meeting this month? > > Would anybody like to step forward and give a talk? > > Thanks, > Tim. - -- Eric Martin Key Fingerprint = C74F 1EBF 2E80 7984 8CB5 064E BF17 D34C C704 B30F -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJR1xV6AAoJEL8X00zHBLMPXeYQAIXDpMUvk2e3l8E+g/N7wuL1 A39FM5BSodkeDAOfdExARJlPUqjR4Ml8BKweZGinq/mlLmIj6XcMnA/h6o2+/bfm 8Hs/qD0SgG7gHUacknyTHFY3OFuCLSC77hQ0T0u7WcuaQbT53ePAwPoIUCsVp6fU cNHi+sS3wseUz8PfZawpkIaGXi5jbrv3D5zeYjp6HVs4cNJDcqf1ALNuqQiJGatH l4AnVtorhwtmLNpKTBgLQKyM8p3Yone+xfzXKLO/rDDCgI9dRsGfeJ7FW/GYogVP AT3A1pBkeT14ag1x07HFasxMaaToq53xEa46SKiBvhR2/Q7OqhtEj3uB7eujSOJU jJSUvD6iPhoY4cWwSk5I24PtV04u0FfH2yEktA78TFPUxNL8E9f0j0ZYL3Oe1hy6 yW0CSQ4+4nhOpLYVV833VWEjOO+w3I3UwhLPIe24pHELVzatbkVX2GW17slnzurb GAD6Xe1wYkcHBDXi+H8Bkk3wfTknBVCc3coEgZXiRrCySeXyd4iBjB44KQFpAHX9 noxRPm8eELExOFF2oOoP9SpVZn4ng2hqm5ADSpIJ4ccCU7WVs958ID/zwRtYRyJZ Ur0yRtU89sITgynoqYkJKVhFJwbrTuOjQOFFL004lYuX6iYx569Riazi+4UjjUZH lRZSbfGdW0pkGN2OwqiZ =g/hC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

July 5, 2013

Are we having a meeting on the 10th?

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, I presume we're actually going to have a WLUG meeting this month? Would anybody like to step forward and give a talk? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 5, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Release cycle for RHEL / CentOS 6

by Eric Martin

Hi John, The function requested / required was subprocess.check_output. My developer used jshints to do a lint type syntax check on code in a pre-commit hook. With the ius repository, this wasn't a big deal at all. I'm actually surprised that RHEL / CentOS don't support python2.7 since it's been out for 3 years. Hope that helps, let me know if you were looking for more. On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 9:15 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Just a quick question, but what feature of Python 2.7 did the hook > depend on and could it have been re-written to only need Python 2.6 > instead? Seems like a lot of work, and now a bunch more dependencies > and hacks to rebuild this system when/if it dies, just to make a > developer happy. Not saying this is bad... but maybe saying that core > production systems should *try* to stay as simple as possible. > > And no, I don't always follow my own advice here. Just trying to get > you to give us more info on your process here, since I think it's a > good example of the balance we all have to try and achieve in our > $WORK. > > John > > > Eric> Thank you for your prompt replies! Karl, the iuscommunity repo is > exactly > Eric> what I needed. Also, it has some other packages that I've had to > install > Eric> directly so this is even better! thanks guys, see you next meeting. > > > Eric> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > wrote: > > >> On 06/27/2013 03:47 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 06/27/2013 09:34 AM, Eric Martin wrote: > >> > >> Hi All, > >> > >> The subversion server at my office is on a CentOS 6 server, and a > software > >> developer wrote a hook in python for it. The hook requires python 2.7, > >> but CentOS 6 only has 2.6.6 (python-2.6.6-36.el6 to be exact). > >> > >> I grabbed python-2.7.2-5.2.fc16.src.rpm from Fedora 16 and am trying to > >> roll my own via instructions I found on the CentOS wiki. All is good > >> except that it requires db4.8, and that's not out for RHEL6 either. > >> > >> >From where I stand, it looks like my options are: 1) wait this out > until > >> either Python or a dependency are pushed up, but when is that? 2) > rebuild > >> this package with the deps, but I'm not quite sure how to roll a -devel > >> package 3) roll my own package from scratch 4) install python 2.7 in an > >> alternate location and point to it for this script > >> > >> Since this is a production server, I'd rather no do any hacks on this. > >> Does anybody know how the release schedule works, or have any other > >> advice? > >> > >> Thanks in advance, -- Eric Martin > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > >> Look at Software Collections. Not sure if they have python2.7 yet > though. > >> > https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Developer_Toolse… > >> > >> > >> Some SRPMS of python 2.7 > >> > >> http://dl.iuscommunity.org/pub/ius/stable/CentOS/6/SRPMS/repoview/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wlug mailing list > >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > >> > > > Eric> -- > Eric> Eric Martin > > Eric> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eric> _______________________________________________ > Eric> Wlug mailing list > Eric> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Eric> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Eric Martin

July 2, 2013

Interesting Linux Webinar coming up Tues. 23 July.

by Bob

http://spectrum.ieee.org/webinar/4-ways-to-improve-linux-performance-for-mu… FYI Bob

July 2, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Release cycle for RHEL / CentOS 6

by John Stoffel

Just a quick question, but what feature of Python 2.7 did the hook depend on and could it have been re-written to only need Python 2.6 instead? Seems like a lot of work, and now a bunch more dependencies and hacks to rebuild this system when/if it dies, just to make a developer happy. Not saying this is bad... but maybe saying that core production systems should *try* to stay as simple as possible. And no, I don't always follow my own advice here. Just trying to get you to give us more info on your process here, since I think it's a good example of the balance we all have to try and achieve in our $WORK. John Eric> Thank you for your prompt replies! Karl, the iuscommunity repo is exactly Eric> what I needed. Also, it has some other packages that I've had to install Eric> directly so this is even better! thanks guys, see you next meeting. Eric> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> wrote: >> On 06/27/2013 03:47 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 06/27/2013 09:34 AM, Eric Martin wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> The subversion server at my office is on a CentOS 6 server, and a software >> developer wrote a hook in python for it. The hook requires python 2.7, >> but CentOS 6 only has 2.6.6 (python-2.6.6-36.el6 to be exact). >> >> I grabbed python-2.7.2-5.2.fc16.src.rpm from Fedora 16 and am trying to >> roll my own via instructions I found on the CentOS wiki. All is good >> except that it requires db4.8, and that's not out for RHEL6 either. >> >> >From where I stand, it looks like my options are: 1) wait this out until >> either Python or a dependency are pushed up, but when is that? 2) rebuild >> this package with the deps, but I'm not quite sure how to roll a -devel >> package 3) roll my own package from scratch 4) install python 2.7 in an >> alternate location and point to it for this script >> >> Since this is a production server, I'd rather no do any hacks on this. >> Does anybody know how the release schedule works, or have any other >> advice? >> >> Thanks in advance, -- Eric Martin >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> Look at Software Collections. Not sure if they have python2.7 yet though. >> https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Developer_Toolse… >> >> >> Some SRPMS of python 2.7 >> >> http://dl.iuscommunity.org/pub/ius/stable/CentOS/6/SRPMS/repoview/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> Eric> -- Eric> Eric Martin Eric> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric> _______________________________________________ Eric> Wlug mailing list Eric> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Eric> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 30, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Release cycle for RHEL / CentOS 6

by Eric Martin

Thank you for your prompt replies! Karl, the iuscommunity repo is exactly what I needed. Also, it has some other packages that I've had to install directly so this is even better! thanks guys, see you next meeting. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> wrote: > On 06/27/2013 03:47 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/27/2013 09:34 AM, Eric Martin wrote: > > Hi All, > > The subversion server at my office is on a CentOS 6 server, and a software > developer wrote a hook in python for it. The hook requires python 2.7, > but CentOS 6 only has 2.6.6 (python-2.6.6-36.el6 to be exact). > > I grabbed python-2.7.2-5.2.fc16.src.rpm from Fedora 16 and am trying to > roll my own via instructions I found on the CentOS wiki. All is good > except that it requires db4.8, and that's not out for RHEL6 either. > > >From where I stand, it looks like my options are: 1) wait this out until > either Python or a dependency are pushed up, but when is that? 2) rebuild > this package with the deps, but I'm not quite sure how to roll a -devel > package 3) roll my own package from scratch 4) install python 2.7 in an > alternate location and point to it for this script > > Since this is a production server, I'd rather no do any hacks on this. > Does anybody know how the release schedule works, or have any other > advice? > > Thanks in advance, -- Eric Martin > > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > Look at Software Collections. Not sure if they have python2.7 yet though. > https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Developer_Toolse… > > > Some SRPMS of python 2.7 > > http://dl.iuscommunity.org/pub/ius/stable/CentOS/6/SRPMS/repoview/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Eric Martin

June 27, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Release cycle for RHEL / CentOS 6

by Karl Hiramoto

On 06/27/2013 03:47 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/27/2013 09:34 AM, Eric Martin wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> The subversion server at my office is on a CentOS 6 server, and a software >> developer wrote a hook in python for it. The hook requires python 2.7, >> but CentOS 6 only has 2.6.6 (python-2.6.6-36.el6 to be exact). >> >> I grabbed python-2.7.2-5.2.fc16.src.rpm from Fedora 16 and am trying to >> roll my own via instructions I found on the CentOS wiki. All is good >> except that it requires db4.8, and that's not out for RHEL6 either. >> >> From where I stand, it looks like my options are: 1) wait this out until >> either Python or a dependency are pushed up, but when is that? 2) rebuild >> this package with the deps, but I'm not quite sure how to roll a -devel >> package 3) roll my own package from scratch 4) install python 2.7 in an >> alternate location and point to it for this script >> >> Since this is a production server, I'd rather no do any hacks on this. >> Does anybody know how the release schedule works, or have any other >> advice? >> >> Thanks in advance, -- Eric Martin >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > Look at Software Collections. Not sure if they have python2.7 yet though. > > https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Developer_Toolse… Some SRPMS of python 2.7 http://dl.iuscommunity.org/pub/ius/stable/CentOS/6/SRPMS/repoview/

June 27, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Release cycle for RHEL / CentOS 6

by Daniel J Walsh

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/27/2013 09:34 AM, Eric Martin wrote: > Hi All, > > The subversion server at my office is on a CentOS 6 server, and a software > developer wrote a hook in python for it. The hook requires python 2.7, > but CentOS 6 only has 2.6.6 (python-2.6.6-36.el6 to be exact). > > I grabbed python-2.7.2-5.2.fc16.src.rpm from Fedora 16 and am trying to > roll my own via instructions I found on the CentOS wiki. All is good > except that it requires db4.8, and that's not out for RHEL6 either. > > From where I stand, it looks like my options are: 1) wait this out until > either Python or a dependency are pushed up, but when is that? 2) rebuild > this package with the deps, but I'm not quite sure how to roll a -devel > package 3) roll my own package from scratch 4) install python 2.7 in an > alternate location and point to it for this script > > Since this is a production server, I'd rather no do any hacks on this. > Does anybody know how the release schedule works, or have any other > advice? > > Thanks in advance, -- Eric Martin > > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > Look at Software Collections. Not sure if they have python2.7 yet though. https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Developer_Toolse… -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHMQm0ACgkQrlYvE4MpobNvLgCglcqbTSagpuUwd4dr6PwJRzdJ nigAoKTFFDR2CQFtE2PTip7m7ZGvhajp =FZ/y -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

June 27, 2013

Release cycle for RHEL / CentOS 6

by Eric Martin

Hi All, The subversion server at my office is on a CentOS 6 server, and a software developer wrote a hook in python for it. The hook requires python 2.7, but CentOS 6 only has 2.6.6 (python-2.6.6-36.el6 to be exact). I grabbed python-2.7.2-5.2.fc16.src.rpm from Fedora 16 and am trying to roll my own via instructions I found on the CentOS wiki. All is good except that it requires db4.8, and that's not out for RHEL6 either. >From where I stand, it looks like my options are: 1) wait this out until either Python or a dependency are pushed up, but when is that? 2) rebuild this package with the deps, but I'm not quite sure how to roll a -devel package 3) roll my own package from scratch 4) install python 2.7 in an alternate location and point to it for this script Since this is a production server, I'd rather no do any hacks on this. Does anybody know how the release schedule works, or have any other advice? Thanks in advance, -- Eric Martin

June 27, 2013

new to Worcester UNIX community

by Arjan van der Velde

Hi all, I'm new to the Worcester area and I would like to know how active the UNIX community is around here and possibly contribute. I am particularly interested in the BSDs but also Linux. -- Arjan

June 24, 2013

InfoSec position opening at WPI

by Frank Sweetser

Hey all, just wanted to share a position that opened up here at WPI. The short version is the position will oriented around security analysis, with a mix of small to medium programming projects and system administration (all heavily linux based, of course!). Anyone interested can view the full details, as well as submit an application, on our HR jobs site: https://careers.wpi.edu/postings/739 -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken

June 19, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Did anybody show up last night?

by The Hammer

Hi Tim, John and I were the only ones who showed that I know of. We stayed till about 7:15. I checked my email and the LUG website before I left (just in case). I understand that things sometimes happen, but found it amazing that only two of us showed. Ron On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Did anybody show up to last night meeting? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

June 14, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Did anybody show up last night?

by Bob

Couldn't. Was in NY at the time. Bob On 6/13/2013 3:05 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > Did anybody show up to last night meeting? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Did anybody show up last night?

by killaken2000 .

Hello I was wondering if anyone is going to the flea at MIT this weekend? www.mitflea.com http://w1mx.mit.edu/flea-at-mit They should have all kinds of tech stuff, ham gear, PCs, Testing gear (Oscilloscopes, etc) On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:28 PM, killaken2000 . <killaken2000(a)gmail.com>wrote: > I want to attend but I don't know anyone and I don't want to be there not > knowing where I'm going or what I'm doing. Also when is the next one? I do > hope that everyone had a good time though. Would have loved to have been > there for the ZFS and FreeNAS talks. > > Take care, > Rich > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:21 PM, dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net < > dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> >> I did not receive a notice for the meeting. >> >> >> >> -David >> >> >> On June 13, 2013 at 3:08 PM John Platt <jplatt39(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I did and so did somebody else. I forget his name but today's been >> wild. We left at about quarter past. >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Did anybody show up to last night meeting? >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >

June 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Did anybody show up last night?

by killaken2000 .

I want to attend but I don't know anyone and I don't want to be there not knowing where I'm going or what I'm doing. Also when is the next one? I do hope that everyone had a good time though. Would have loved to have been there for the ZFS and FreeNAS talks. Take care, Rich On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:21 PM, dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net < dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> wrote: > ** > > > > I did not receive a notice for the meeting. > > > > -David > > > On June 13, 2013 at 3:08 PM John Platt <jplatt39(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I did and so did somebody else. I forget his name but today's been > wild. We left at about quarter past. > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Did anybody show up to last night meeting? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

June 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Did anybody show up last night?

by dglaser＠glaserresearch.net

I did not receive a notice for the meeting. -David On June 13, 2013 at 3:08 PM John Platt <jplatt39(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I did and so did somebody else. I forget his name but today's been wild. We > left at about quarter past. > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com > <mailto:turbofx@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Did anybody show up to last night meeting? > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > > constituents as "consumers". > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > <http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug> > > >

June 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Did anybody show up last night?

by John Platt

I did and so did somebody else. I forget his name but today's been wild. We left at about quarter past. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Did anybody show up to last night meeting? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

June 13, 2013

Did anybody show up last night?

by Tim Keller

Did anybody show up to last night meeting? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

June 13, 2013

Messaging Engineer position open at NYCHHC

by Bob

Enterprise Information Technology Services [Senior Messaging System Engineer] The New York City Health and Hospitals Corporation (HHC), the largest municipal hospital and health care system in the country, is a $6.7 billion public benefit corporation that serves 1.3 million New Yorkers�nearly 475,000 of whom are uninsured. HHC provides medical, mental health, and substance abuse services through its 11 acute care hospitals, four skilled nursing facilities, six large diagnostic and treatment centers, and more than 70 community-based clinics. HHC Health and Home Care also provides home health services to New Yorkers. HHC was the 2008 recipient of the National Quality Forum and The Joint Commission's John M. Eisenberg Award for Innovation in Patient Safety and Quality. For more information about HHC, please visit us at 'NYC.gov - The Official New York City Web Site' (http://www.nyc.gov/hhc) Comprised of various functional groups and Network IT departments, Enterprise Information Technology Services (EITS) is responsible for all of HHC�s information systems and network infrastructure. EITS staff has strong problem-solving, mathematical, and analytical skills. With an aptitude for computer technology, EITS staff exhibits proficiency in spreadsheets, word processing, and presentation software. JOB SUMMARY Provide support, administration, troubleshooting, reporting and project management for an environment consisting of GroupWise v8 & 2012 NCS/BCC cluster, OES2, SLES 10/11, Novell Data Synchronizer, Novell Instant Messenger, Novell Identity Manager, GWAVA Reload/Retain, eDirectory, Password Self Service and FTP. PRINCIPAL DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES � Build, configure, and administer Novell/Groupwise platform � Coordinate the installation and upgrades of hardware and software � Interact with IT staff and vendors regarding complex testing or troubleshooting issues � Provide documents standards and operating procedures � Provide input on budget, strategic and capacity planning, process improvements, and engineering design � Present project status, issues and other key information to management, peers and stakeholders � Provide effective communication at all levels of management, peers and customers through clarity of expression and the ability to organize thoughts both written and oral QUALIFICATIONS / EXPERIENCE � Required 5 years experience in implementing, managing, troubleshooting & administering Novell eDirectory in an Enterprise environment � Required 5 years experience in implementing, managing, troubleshooting & administering Novell GroupWise in an Enterprise environment � Required 5 years experience installing and managing Linux in an Enterprise Environment, including any of the following: OES2, SLES10/11, OES11, RedHat � Required Experience implementing Novell Clustering on SuSE Linux � Required Working knowledge of SAN and fibre channel connectivity for Linux servers. Experience with EMC/Hitachi a plus � Required Working knowledge of LAN Protocols � Required Strong knowledge of iManager, ConsoleOne Management Tools � Required Experience with NSS, NCP, NFS, EVMS, LVM � Required Experience with implementing LDAP authentication against eDirectory and Active Directory � Required Experience with Remote Administration (KVM, Lights Out, WebEx and other desktop sharing) a must � Required MS exchange working experience 3-5 years � Required Enterprise project roll out experience � Preferred Working knowledge of Novell Business Continuity Clustering � Preferred Working knowledge of MYSQL and MS SQL � Preferred Working knowledge of GWAVA Reload, Retain and Vertigo � Preferred Experience with GroupWise to MS Exchange Migration (MS Exchange 2010, 2013 and Office365 a plus) � Preferred Working knowledge of Active Directory and Windows 2003/2008,2012, Windows XP/WIN7 � Preferred Experience using Visual Click's DSRazor and DSMeter, and/or JRB utilities � Preferred Working knowledge of Novell IDM v3.x/v4.x � Preferred Working knowledge of Novell IDM Password Self-Service � Preferred Working knowledge of Novell Netware � Preferred Experience with implementing SFTP/FTPS (NWFTPD, PUREFTPD) on Linux � Preferred Experience using BMC Remedy � Preferred Experience with scripting (bash, perl, python, powershell, php, ruby) � Preferred Experience with implementing Web Servers and Application Servers on Linux (Apache, Tomcat, IIS) � Preferred Experience with Monitoring Tools (i.e.: Nagios, SCOM, SNMP) HOW TO APPLY Michael.Fischman(a)nychhc.org -- mikefischman ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mikefischman's Profile: http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=102913 View this thread: http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=467505

June 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] spamd

by Jason Couture

Its been a while, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but it appears to me that spamassasin is working just fine. However it looks like Bayes isn't trained properly. Google around for how to teach Bayes about spam so it catches more. It also helps to show Bayes what isn't spam. I used to use a script that would go through every users IMAP folders, things in spam were trained as spam and things in the inbox that had been seen and not marked for more than 24 hours were marked as not spam. After a few days Bayes became fairly accurate. Those x-spam-* headers are all spam assassin headers. The headers indicate that the message they are for is VERY close to being spam, with Bayes being unsure (Bayes_50 is unsure) with a score of 0.8 overall score of 3.25 with 3.5 being required to flag a message as spam. On May 19, 2013 5:58 PM, "brad" <bkn(a)ithryn.net> wrote: > Hi All, > > i've been getting more spam over the last couple of days. It appears spamd > is > not running on my ubuntu 10.04 server; however the headers of the spam > messages have X-Spam-* flags. I'm not sure what might be adding the spam > headers, perhaps its upstream (or clamav). I wanted to start using spam > assassin, but that appears to crash when i run the following, which i dug > out > from the init scripts, > > sudo /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/sbin/spamd --create-prefs \ > --max-children 5 --helper-home-dir --pidfile=/var/run/spamd.pid > > This line results in the following output: > May 19 17:50:03.557 [8665] info: rules: meta test T_SUBJ_BRKN_WORDNUMS > has dependency 'DKIM_SIGNED' with a zero score > May 19 17:50:03.626 [8665] info: collectd: Insecure dependency in > connect while running with -T switch at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/IO/Socket.pm > line 114. > May 19 17:50:03.726 [8665] info: spamd: server started on port 783/tcp > (running version 3.3.1) > May 19 17:50:03.726 [8665] info: spamd: server pid: 8665 > May 19 17:50:03.729 [8665] info: spamd: server successfully spawned > child process, pid 8743 > May 19 17:50:03.733 [8665] info: spamd: server successfully spawned > child process, pid 8744 > May 19 17:50:03.736 [8665] info: prefork: child states: IS > May 19 17:50:03.736 [8665] info: prefork: child states: II > [1] 8665 alarm sudo /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/sbin/spamd > --create-prefs --max-children 5 > > I'm not sure what 'alarm' means. I tried running it with debugging > messages, none of which seemed useful. > > Below are the relavent heads from one spam message, > X-Virus-Scanned: Ubuntu Server Edition amavisd-new at ithryn.com > X-Spam-Flag: NO > X-Spam-Score: 3.25 > X-Spam-Level: *** > X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.25 required=3.5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, > HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG=0.377, MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.723, > RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT=1.449, SPF_PASS=-0.1] autolearn=no > > Anyone have advice to get spamd running correctly? > thanks, > - brad > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 20, 2013

spamd

by brad

Hi All, i've been getting more spam over the last couple of days. It appears spamd is not running on my ubuntu 10.04 server; however the headers of the spam messages have X-Spam-* flags. I'm not sure what might be adding the spam headers, perhaps its upstream (or clamav). I wanted to start using spam assassin, but that appears to crash when i run the following, which i dug out from the init scripts, sudo /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/sbin/spamd --create-prefs \ --max-children 5 --helper-home-dir --pidfile=/var/run/spamd.pid This line results in the following output: May 19 17:50:03.557 [8665] info: rules: meta test T_SUBJ_BRKN_WORDNUMS has dependency 'DKIM_SIGNED' with a zero score May 19 17:50:03.626 [8665] info: collectd: Insecure dependency in connect while running with -T switch at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/IO/Socket.pm line 114. May 19 17:50:03.726 [8665] info: spamd: server started on port 783/tcp (running version 3.3.1) May 19 17:50:03.726 [8665] info: spamd: server pid: 8665 May 19 17:50:03.729 [8665] info: spamd: server successfully spawned child process, pid 8743 May 19 17:50:03.733 [8665] info: spamd: server successfully spawned child process, pid 8744 May 19 17:50:03.736 [8665] info: prefork: child states: IS May 19 17:50:03.736 [8665] info: prefork: child states: II [1] 8665 alarm sudo /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/sbin/spamd --create-prefs --max-children 5 I'm not sure what 'alarm' means. I tried running it with debugging messages, none of which seemed useful. Below are the relavent heads from one spam message, X-Virus-Scanned: Ubuntu Server Edition amavisd-new at ithryn.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.25 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.25 required=3.5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG=0.377, MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.723, RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT=1.449, SPF_PASS=-0.1] autolearn=no Anyone have advice to get spamd running correctly? thanks, - brad

May 19, 2013

Announcing OpenShift Origin Community Day June 9th.

by Daniel J Walsh

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If you are interested, I attended and presented at the Community Day in Portland, a few weeks ago. It is a pretty good event. https://openshiftboston-estw.eventbrite.com/# Learn about PAAS (Platform as a Service) and how you can influence and contribute to this event. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGSkJoACgkQrlYvE4MpobNnigCgzJq79KYqbNOw5OSM45OV/5hG R+QAn0978PD+C+1q+10iNqQk4Ol3AvQ4 =WuUQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

May 14, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Scanning someone's head and printing it?

by mvoorhis＠cs.wpi.edu

John Stoffel writes: > Wow, this looks like a nice idea. If we get a good, clean white > background, it might really work well. I would think that good > lighting is the key here. And a tripod while you spin the subject in > a chair or stool to keep the orientation as fixed as possible. I'm sure L&L could rig some sort of vise to keep your head still. I'd settle for just a photo of that, actually.

May 14, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Scanning someone's head and printing it?

by John Stoffel

Adam> If you sign up for an AutoDesk account, you may get decent Adam> results by using AutoDesk123D Catch to scan the person's Adam> head. After you get the file out of 123D Catch, clean it up and Adam> add a base in MeshMixer. Then bring the cleaned up file into Adam> AutoDesk 123D. AutoDesk 123D can generate common 3D interchange Adam> formats that can be converted for use with a 3D printer. Adam> Unfortunately, I don't know of an equivalent open source Adam> workflow :-/. Also, this is off the top of my head ;-). I have Adam> don't this workflow since last summer. Wow, this looks like a nice idea. If we get a good, clean white background, it might really work well. I would think that good lighting is the key here. And a tripod while you spin the subject in a chair or stool to keep the orientation as fixed as possible. John

May 14, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Scanning someone's head and printing it?

by Adam Keck

Hi John, If you sign up for an AutoDesk account, you may get decent results by using AutoDesk123D Catch to scan the person's head. After you get the file out of 123D Catch, clean it up and add a base in MeshMixer. Then bring the cleaned up file into AutoDesk 123D. AutoDesk 123D can generate common 3D interchange formats that can be converted for use with a 3D printer. Unfortunately, I don't know of an equivalent open source workflow :-/. Also, this is off the top of my head ;-). I have don't this workflow since last summer. Hope this helps, -Adam On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 3:00 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Guys, > > Anyone know of a hacker space or other place in the > Worcester/Marlborough area where I can get someone's head scanned to > be 3-d printed? I found this one place, http://www.teslaract.org, > down in Webster Square, but they seem idle. > > Thanks, > John > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 13, 2013

Scanning someone's head and printing it?

by John Stoffel

Guys, Anyone know of a hacker space or other place in the Worcester/Marlborough area where I can get someone's head scanned to be 3-d printed? I found this one place, http://www.teslaract.org, down in Webster Square, but they seem idle. Thanks, John

May 13, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Announce: Today's WLUG Meeting is canceled

by The Hammer

I am definitely interested and will attend if able. I have no preference as to the month. Ron On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Hi folks, > > Sorry for the late notice. I will not be available this evening, so > I'm canceling the WLUG meeting tonight. > > Are people interested in having a WLUG BBQ this year? If so, we > should start planning for June or July or August. > > Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 11, 2013

Re: [Wlug] Announce: Today's WLUG Meeting is canceled

by Bob

I'll support a BBQ. July? Bob On 5/8/2013 8:40 AM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Hi folks, > > Sorry for the late notice. I will not be available this evening, so > I'm canceling the WLUG meeting tonight. > > Are people interested in having a WLUG BBQ this year? If so, we > should start planning for June or July or August. > > Chuck > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 8, 2013

Announce: Today's WLUG Meeting is canceled

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, Sorry for the late notice. I will not be available this evening, so I'm canceling the WLUG meeting tonight. Are people interested in having a WLUG BBQ this year? If so, we should start planning for June or July or August. Chuck

May 8, 2013

Less than 1 week! (Prizes!) LOPSA-East 2013! (formerly PICC) May 3-4, 2013, New Brunswick, NJ

by LOPSA-East 2013

Less than one week left! http://lopsa-east.org Space still available! "The most talked about sysadmin community conference of the year! Don't miss it!" Next week is LOPSA-East 2013, May 3-4, at the Hyatt Regency hotel in New Brunswick, NJ. Register "at the door" or on-line. Some sessions filling fast: To be guaranteed your spot, register now! KEYNOTE: Marcus J. Ranum, Chief Security Officer, Tenable Network Security, Inc. will be presenting the opening keynote address on Friday night. His talk is titled "Wanted: Generalists (because the easy stuff is done)" Computer security has done a fairly good job of picking the "low hanging fruit" with knowledge-bases and engines to execute against them. But that's the easy stuff. Let's talk about what's next. PRIZES: Three giveaways during the event! Twelve lucky attendees will win a book from O'Reilly, three will go home with LISA tech session passes, and one will leave with a year membership to USENIX/LISA! You must be present to win, and must be registered to be eligible. So register now! http://lopsa-east.org/2013/registration/ TRAINING: Sessions on Linux, Windows, Puppet, Team Efficiency, WordPress, PowerShell, Virtualization, and much more! Follow us on Twitter! http://twitter.com/lopsaeast --------------------------------------- FRIDAY: An entire day of training offered by world class instructors. FRIDAY NIGHT: Dinner, Keynote and 'birds of a feather' sessions. SATURDAY: More training sessions plus 45 minute presentations from invited speakers, 5 minute lightning talks. Full schedule: http://lopsa-east.org/2013/schedule/ --------------------------------------- LOPSA-East (http://lopsa-east.org) is produced by The New Jersey chapter (http://lopsanj.org) of the League of Professional System Administrators (LOPSA) (http://lopsa.org) This will be the 4th annual conference, being held May 3-4, 2013 at the Hyatt Regency hotel in New Brunswick, NJ.

April 28, 2013

MySQL Replication Expert Needed

by Michael Long

I know someone who is looking for some short term help. They are looking for someone "whom I can hot-drop into a problem we have with a production server pair, and have him fix it *within 30* *days*. This person should be VERY experienced with MySQL Replication, Linux, and Apache." Please email me directly if you think you can help them out. Thanks, Mike

April 26, 2013

Announce: Change in tonight's WLUG meeting

by Chuck Anderson

Sadly, Jim Gettys has been ill and will be unable to speak at tonight's meeting. We'll still meet and have an informal discussion and answer any Linux/FOSS support questions people have. We'll also raffle off some books and go out for pizza afterwards. I hope to reschedule Jim for a future meeting. ----- Forwarded message from Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> ----- Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:02:27 -0400 From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 4/10 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat Precedence: list Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held at its regularly scheduled time: the 2nd Wednesday of the month, which is Wednesday, April 10, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. This month we will have Jim Gettys from Bell Labs talk about Internet buffer bloat. "Internet buffer bloat, by Jim Gettys (Bell Labs) VOIP and teleconferencing often perform much more poorly on today's Internet than the Internet of a decade ago, despite great gains in bandwidth. Lots of fiber, cheap memory, smart hardware, variability of wireless goodput, changes in web browser behaviour, changes in TCP implementations, and a focus on benchmarking Internet performance solely by bandwidth, and engineer's natural reluctance to drop packets have conspired to encourage papering over problems by adding buffers; each of which may introduce latency when filled. The mistaken quest to never drop packets has destroyed interactivity under load, and often results in actual higher packet loss, as TCP's congestion avoidance algorithms have been defeated by these buffers. The lessons of the "RED manifesto" of 1997 have been forgotten or never learned by a new generation of engineers." Wednesday, April 10, 7:00 - 10:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 I will also be raffling off some more items. Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug ----- End forwarded message -----

April 10, 2013