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awk help

by Mike Peckar

Hey now, folks, This seemed like it should be simple, but I’m at wits end. I simply want to find duplicates in the third column of a csv file, and output the duplicate line _and_ the original line that matched it. There’s a million examples out there that will output just the duplicate but not both. In the data below, I’m looking for lines that match in the 3rd column… Normal,Server,xldspntc02,,10.33.52.185, Normal,Server,xldspntc02,,10.33.52.186, Normal,Server,xldspntc04,,10.33.52.187, Normal,Server,xldspntcs01,10.33.16.198, Normal,Server,xldspntcs01,,10.33.16.199, Normal,Server,xldsps01,10.33.16.162, Normal,Server,xldsps02,10.33.16.163, My desired output would be: Normal,Server,xldspntc02,,10.33.52.185, Normal,Server,xldspntc02,,10.33.52.186, Normal,Server,xldspntcs01,10.33.16.198, Normal,Server,xldspntcs01,,10.33.16.199, $ awk -F, 'dup[$3]++' file.csv I played around with the prev variable, but could not pumb it out fully, e.g { print prev } Mike

March 13, 2017

Re: [Wlug] (for meeting projectors) laptops,VGA-out,linux....

by Chuck Anderson

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:37:53AM -0500, Tim Keller wrote: > Thanks for doing some great digging on the projector stuff.. It's only > 2017... Projectors should just *work*. They do "just work" in some OSes/desktop environments.

March 10, 2017

Re: [Wlug] (for meeting projectors) laptops,VGA-out,linux....

by Tim Keller

Playing with Cinnamon last night I'm going to take the dive and throw it on a RHEL7 VM and see if I like it better than Mate. If so, I'll swap over my desktop and see... Thanks for doing some great digging on the projector stuff.. It's only 2017... Projectors should just *work*. On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Doug Mildram <dmildram(a)gmail.com> wrote: > doug> Thanks Tim for bringing a functional laptop w/linux for last night's > meeting. Our VGA-out projector worked fine as he installed a linux Mint VM > (Mate Cinnamon) onto it. > > When that finished, I wanted to show/compare Mint Mate, which I had > already on my laptop. > > When I unplugged Tim's laptop from VGA-out and tried my own thinkpad > running Mint Mate (dualbooted, my alternate OS).....well,.....chirp. > > The projector stopped projecting. My Fn-F7 key seemed to be trying to > cycle thru the blind toggles/choices (Duplicate display? screen-only? > VGA-only might expect), but no video came out, I had to give up, not having > tried VGA-out ever while running linux on my laptop. We put Tim's back > onto VGA-out, and it also seemed dead, but we chose not to fight it, > meeting being close enough to stop caring about projector, and it "wasnt a > proud moment" for me. > > SO I WENT HOME and plugged my (same) laptop into my TV's VGA-in port. > Started by booting win7. I'd never noticed a detail : at WHICH POINT does > this start working....should I expect to see the dualboot/GRUB menu on TV? > Apparently not. Soon enough though, Win7 (the OS preinstalled by > Lenovo/thinkpad) came up and VGA-out/TV started working as usual. > (somewhere AFTER "Resuming Windows", it starts working). > To control VGA-out, Fn-F7 works ...I've got (4) choices: Duplicate, > Extend(laptop-screen=#1, TV-VGAout=screen2), Projector Only (turns off > laptop display), and Disconnect Projector (only laptop display ON). No > doubt (i surmise), thanks to windows drivers. > > Feels like I learned: OS controls VGA-out (somehow naively I was inclined > to believe this was more of an OS-independent hardware function). > > OK, now rebooted laptop/win7 to try Linux Mint from a win7 state with > "Duplicate" working. "Shutting down Windows" displayed....laptop goes thru > boot/BIOS?...TV is blank now, I've learned to expect this....Linux kernel > boots, and I see some of the minimal console text messages as usual ALSO ON > TV, laptop-screen AND TV quickly go to graphical mode, also displaying the > Mate background... > > and this is where I was the most surprised. > > TV/VGA-out appeared "frozen' with the Mate background, appearing much like > my laptop screen BUT MINUS anything else (no bottom launch/status/"panel" > bar. Whatever I launch on my laptop screen, does not appear on VGA-out. > Fascinating! > > Wed eve late, at my house, I could swear Fn-F7 still wasnt doing anything. > But this Thurs AM, it DOES start working a bit (same 4 choices, but blind, > and it's strange. TV/VGA-out doesnt show EVERYTHING). > I wonder if I'd rebooted at the meeting, would that have helped, probably. > Today I play with it some more (ALT-F2 helps when I'm in that semi-blind > VGA-out situation, getting SOME things to show on TV) even though I'm not > likely to use this feature much?ever? at home, unless I break a leg. > > Caveat, practice what you bring for meetings to project-OUT! > HDMI is also an option in our WPI meeting/conf rms if you have it. > > > ---trivia for Mate interest... > (Mate = lightweight alternate to Cinnamon. > Their start/launch menus are different, and I can find good stuff in > Mate's Control Center. Cinnamon's Control center looks like this: > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2V313X0LzmQclJCVkI5aFhIeDA/edit > > Couldnt find a good Mate comparison Control Center screenshot > (not sharing some high-ad google'd choices) > but I did like this decent page mostly cuz i love keyb shortcuts: > > http://securitronlinux.com/bejiitaswrath/some-useful- > tips-for-the-linux-mate-desktop/ > where I learned > CTL-ALT-d (lowercase "d" not DEL, which offers to reboot) > .....lowers-or-raises what you're doing, a great "quick hide from > over-shoulder" ninja move. (sorry to degrade tricks/skill(s) of a Real > Ninja) > > Stay warm! --doug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 10, 2017

(for meeting projectors) laptops,VGA-out,linux....

by Doug Mildram

doug> Thanks Tim for bringing a functional laptop w/linux for last night's meeting. Our VGA-out projector worked fine as he installed a linux Mint VM (Mate Cinnamon) onto it. When that finished, I wanted to show/compare Mint Mate, which I had already on my laptop. When I unplugged Tim's laptop from VGA-out and tried my own thinkpad running Mint Mate (dualbooted, my alternate OS).....well,.....chirp. The projector stopped projecting. My Fn-F7 key seemed to be trying to cycle thru the blind toggles/choices (Duplicate display? screen-only? VGA-only might expect), but no video came out, I had to give up, not having tried VGA-out ever while running linux on my laptop. We put Tim's back onto VGA-out, and it also seemed dead, but we chose not to fight it, meeting being close enough to stop caring about projector, and it "wasnt a proud moment" for me. SO I WENT HOME and plugged my (same) laptop into my TV's VGA-in port. Started by booting win7. I'd never noticed a detail : at WHICH POINT does this start working....should I expect to see the dualboot/GRUB menu on TV? Apparently not. Soon enough though, Win7 (the OS preinstalled by Lenovo/thinkpad) came up and VGA-out/TV started working as usual. (somewhere AFTER "Resuming Windows", it starts working). To control VGA-out, Fn-F7 works ...I've got (4) choices: Duplicate, Extend(laptop-screen=#1, TV-VGAout=screen2), Projector Only (turns off laptop display), and Disconnect Projector (only laptop display ON). No doubt (i surmise), thanks to windows drivers. Feels like I learned: OS controls VGA-out (somehow naively I was inclined to believe this was more of an OS-independent hardware function). OK, now rebooted laptop/win7 to try Linux Mint from a win7 state with "Duplicate" working. "Shutting down Windows" displayed....laptop goes thru boot/BIOS?...TV is blank now, I've learned to expect this....Linux kernel boots, and I see some of the minimal console text messages as usual ALSO ON TV, laptop-screen AND TV quickly go to graphical mode, also displaying the Mate background... and this is where I was the most surprised. TV/VGA-out appeared "frozen' with the Mate background, appearing much like my laptop screen BUT MINUS anything else (no bottom launch/status/"panel" bar. Whatever I launch on my laptop screen, does not appear on VGA-out. Fascinating! Wed eve late, at my house, I could swear Fn-F7 still wasnt doing anything. But this Thurs AM, it DOES start working a bit (same 4 choices, but blind, and it's strange. TV/VGA-out doesnt show EVERYTHING). I wonder if I'd rebooted at the meeting, would that have helped, probably. Today I play with it some more (ALT-F2 helps when I'm in that semi-blind VGA-out situation, getting SOME things to show on TV) even though I'm not likely to use this feature much?ever? at home, unless I break a leg. Caveat, practice what you bring for meetings to project-OUT! HDMI is also an option in our WPI meeting/conf rms if you have it. ---trivia for Mate interest... (Mate = lightweight alternate to Cinnamon. Their start/launch menus are different, and I can find good stuff in Mate's Control Center. Cinnamon's Control center looks like this: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2V313X0LzmQclJCVkI5aFhIeDA/edit Couldnt find a good Mate comparison Control Center screenshot (not sharing some high-ad google'd choices) but I did like this decent page mostly cuz i love keyb shortcuts: http://securitronlinux.com/bejiitaswrath/some-useful-tips-for-the-linux-mat… where I learned CTL-ALT-d (lowercase "d" not DEL, which offers to reboot) .....lowers-or-raises what you're doing, a great "quick hide from over-shoulder" ninja move. (sorry to degrade tricks/skill(s) of a Real Ninja) Stay warm! --doug

March 10, 2017

Reminder! Meeting TONIGHT March 9th, 2017! Topics: KVM, Virtualized windows apps, Linux Mint!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, First the important details! Location: Rm 331 (Hagglund Room) @ 7PM Topic: read below... Tonight we've got a meeting! After the last meeting a couple of people were asking me questions about KVM (Kernel based Virtual Machine). New member Al Reinhart asked me a question about the best ways to run windows apps on linux, either via wine or through KVM / Oracle Virtual Box. He also mentioned Linux.Encoder (the first linux ransomware) which I didn't even know exists. Long time member Doug Mildram also wrote me about Linux Mint. A distribution I know quite well! They'll be some conversation and we'll kick off an install and talk about it's merits as a greate distribution. As usual, there'll be refreshments and snacks and afterwards we'll head to Tech for pizza! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 9, 2017

Re: [Wlug] Reminder! Meeting March 9th 2017 at 7pm!

by Al Reinhart

Tim, Another newbie request. Tomorrow night can you spend a few minutes talking about running Windows apps on Linux, i.e., Wine and virtual machines (my impression is VirtualBox seem to be the most popular). Last month the issue of ransomware came up and the consensus was there is none on Linux. In my wanderings around the web I came across Linux.Encoder as Linux ransomware: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux.Encoder.1 Thanks, Al On 03/06/2017 08:55 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang, > > This is a reminder that we've got a meeting March 9th, 2017! > Location: Campus Center Rm 301 (Hagglund Room) > Topic: To Be Decided! > > Honestly, this meeting kind of crept up on me! If there's something > that someone has a burning desire to talk about let me know! > > If people are interested I could give a quick talk about ansible. > > Snacks and Refreshments will be provided! > > Afterwards we'll head down to Tech Pizza to continue the conversation! > > Later, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- *Al Reinhart* /DisCom Systems/ Phone: (508)869-6417 eMail: Reinhart(a)DisCom.com *www.DisCom.com*

March 8, 2017

Reminder! Meeting March 9th 2017 at 7pm!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, This is a reminder that we've got a meeting March 9th, 2017! Location: Campus Center Rm 301 (Hagglund Room) Topic: To Be Decided! Honestly, this meeting kind of crept up on me! If there's something that someone has a burning desire to talk about let me know! If people are interested I could give a quick talk about ansible. Snacks and Refreshments will be provided! Afterwards we'll head down to Tech Pizza to continue the conversation! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 7, 2017

WLUG Meeting TONIGHT! Feb. 16th 2017 Rm 331 (Hagglund) iscsi / gfs2 / filesystems / etc!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Our rescheduled meeting is tonight! Feb 16th @ 7pm. The location is changed a bit, we're going to be in the Hagglund Rm (rm 301) in the student center. Go to the top of the stairs and go to the right instead of left. I'm going to be speaking about storage protocols, ending up on iscsi. I'm then going to talk about gfs2 in particular and then show gfs2 working across two nodes. We're also going to talk in general about filesystems, LVM, partitioning, etc. I expect that latter topic is going to be come a general group topic. There will be snacks and refreshments (coke only) and afterwards we'll head down to Tech Pizza! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 16, 2017

Reminder! Meeting Feb 16th 2017 Subject: iscsi / gfs2

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Our rescheduled meeting is going to be on Feb 16th @ 7pm. The location is changed a bit, we're going to be in the Hagglund Rm (rm 301) in the student center. I'm going to do my talk regarding storage protocols focusing on iscsi and doing a demo of gfs2. I might end up only being a talk as my laptop is currently misbehaving, but we'll see. There will be snacks and refreshments and afterwards we'll head down to Tech! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 14, 2017

Meeting cancelled tonight... Reschedule to Feb. 16 2017

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, I going to cancel the meeting for tonight. With the snow storm and the travel ban, I don't think it makes any sense. Everybody stay safe. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 9, 2017

Reminder! Meeting Feb 9th at 7pm! Topic: iscsi / GFS2 clustered filesystems.

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, This is reminder that on Thursday Feb. 9th at 7pm, we've got a WLUG Meeting! Time/Date: See above Location: WPI Student Center Mid Century Room (rm 331) Topic: GFS2 / Clustered Filesystems (and associated technologies) I'm going to be speaking about the clustering filesystem GFS2 as well as the associated infrastructure to provide shared disk to multiple hosts. So this talk is going to be about the filesystem but also about iscsi/iser/fb/IB. This will be momentary deep dive into iscsi and then we'll come up for air and talk about GFS2. There will be refreshments and snacks provided and then we'll head down for pizza. I've heard there might be weather, we'll play it by ear. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 7, 2017

Next Meeting Feb. 9th 2017 GFS2 Clustered Filesystem

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang! I'm going to be giving a talk about the GFS2 clustering file system. If I can rustle up the hardware I'll give a demo as well. A big part of this will also be about iscsi/iser and setting those up. Here are the details. Date & Time: Feb 9th, 2017 @ 7PM Location: WPI Student Center Mid Century Room (rm 331) I'll bring snacks and refreshments and we'll head out for some pizza afterwards. Thanks, Tim.

Feb. 2, 2017

Re: [Wlug] Next meeting February 9th

by Keith Wright

Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > I feel compelled to point out now... that the thing I > built could best be described as a Lovecraftian > horror... a swirling mass of howling mouths and > staring eyes... I would be interested to learn the compiler options needed to build a mass that both swirls and stares. -- Keith

Jan. 27, 2017

Re: [Wlug] Next meeting February 9th

by Tim Keller

I feel compelled to point out now... that the thing I built could best be described as a Lovecraftian horror... a swirling mass of howling mouths and staring eyes... On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm interested in hesring about GFS, and have been interested since I > started compiling my own kernels and saw the option. Talk away! > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 6:27 AM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey Gang, >> >> Our next meeting is the 9th! >> >> I've been doing some interesting work on the clustering filesystem GFS2 >> if people would be interested in that... iscsi/iser infiniband using a >> 100gb file in tmpfs on one machine as a filesystem device on three other >> machines. >> So, I can talk cogently about setting up icsi, setting up gfs2 and about >> tuning such a thing. I also wrote a filesystem testing tool called "death >> by infinite paper cuts" to iterat >> >> I've still got my git methodology slides if people are interested in that >> as well. >> >> I was given a kinect to play with. Though I've got two weeks I might be >> able to do something interesting with that! >> >> Lastly if anybody wants to present on something cool they're working on, >> let me know! >> >> Later, >> Tim. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 27, 2017

Re: [Wlug] Next meeting February 9th

by Eric Martin

I'm interested in hesring about GFS, and have been interested since I started compiling my own kernels and saw the option. Talk away! On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 6:27 AM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Our next meeting is the 9th! > > I've been doing some interesting work on the clustering filesystem GFS2 if > people would be interested in that... iscsi/iser infiniband using a 100gb > file in tmpfs on one machine as a filesystem device on three other machines. > So, I can talk cogently about setting up icsi, setting up gfs2 and about > tuning such a thing. I also wrote a filesystem testing tool called "death > by infinite paper cuts" to iterat > > I've still got my git methodology slides if people are interested in that > as well. > > I was given a kinect to play with. Though I've got two weeks I might be > able to do something interesting with that! > > Lastly if anybody wants to present on something cool they're working on, > let me know! > > Later, > Tim. > > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile

Jan. 27, 2017

Next meeting February 9th

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Our next meeting is the 9th! I've been doing some interesting work on the clustering filesystem GFS2 if people would be interested in that... iscsi/iser infiniband using a 100gb file in tmpfs on one machine as a filesystem device on three other machines. So, I can talk cogently about setting up icsi, setting up gfs2 and about tuning such a thing. I also wrote a filesystem testing tool called "death by infinite paper cuts" to iterat I've still got my git methodology slides if people are interested in that as well. I was given a kinect to play with. Though I've got two weeks I might be able to do something interesting with that! Lastly if anybody wants to present on something cool they're working on, let me know! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 25, 2017

Reminder: Jon "Maddog" Hall will be speaking TODAY (Jan. 12th 2017)

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang! We've got a meeting TODAY Jan. 12th, 2017 Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall Topic: How to pick a Single Board Computer Location: Rm 331 in the student center Time: 7pm Refreshments and Snacks will be provided! And as usual they'll be pizza at tech afterwards! Thanks, Tim. P.S. I'll be unable to attend this meeting tonight. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 12, 2017

Re: [Wlug] Meeting Reminder: Jan. 17th, 2017: "How to pick a single board computer"

by Tim Keller

DOH! The meeting it TODAY the 12th! Sorry for the confusion!!! On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:17 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > This is a reminder that there's a WLUG meeting January 17th, 2017! > Here's all the vital details! > > Topic: How To Pick A Single Board Compuer > Speaker: Jon "maddog" Hall > Time: 7pm > Location: Campus Center Room 331 "Mid Century Room" > > While in the near past there were few choices when it came to "SBC" single > board computers, that's not the case anymore. > Now there's a whole cornucopia of choices and architectures. > Thankfully, Jon "Maddog" Hall is going to get help navigate the myriad of > choices. > > Like always expect his talk to be educational and hilarious! > > Snacks and refreshments will be provided and as always they'll be pizza > down at Tech to continue the conversation. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > P.S. I'll be unable to attend this meeting due to a prior engagement. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 12, 2017

Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting January 12th 2017!

by Keith Wright

Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 20:57:05 -0500 Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > Our next meeting is going to be January 12th 2017. Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 23:17:32 -0500 Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > This is a reminder that there's a WLUG meeting January 17th, 2017! WTF? (Wednesday, Thursday, Friday?) According to my calculations, checked by computer: > (= 12 17) > #f twelve is equal to seventeen, NOT. Jan 12 is tomorrow, Jan 17 is next Tuesday. I think 12 is right. What do you think? -- Keith

Jan. 12, 2017

Meeting Reminder: Jan. 17th, 2017: "How to pick a single board computer"

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, This is a reminder that there's a WLUG meeting January 17th, 2017! Here's all the vital details! Topic: How To Pick A Single Board Compuer Speaker: Jon "maddog" Hall Time: 7pm Location: Campus Center Room 331 "Mid Century Room" While in the near past there were few choices when it came to "SBC" single board computers, that's not the case anymore. Now there's a whole cornucopia of choices and architectures. Thankfully, Jon "Maddog" Hall is going to get help navigate the myriad of choices. Like always expect his talk to be educational and hilarious! Snacks and refreshments will be provided and as always they'll be pizza down at Tech to continue the conversation. Thanks, Tim. P.S. I'll be unable to attend this meeting due to a prior engagement. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 11, 2017

Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting January 12th 2017!

by Chuck Anderson

Bring it on! On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 01:09:05PM +0000, Jon "maddog" Hall wrote: > Ok. > > So unless someone writes to the list and says "Heck no, I do not want that > as****e invading from the frozen north to talk about such an inane topic." > I will trundle my way down and give my talk: > > Title: "What SBC computer is right for *me*"? > > I will need an LCD projector with either VGA or HDMI input. > > md

Jan. 5, 2017

Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting January 12th 2017!

by Tim Keller

Jon, That would be fantastic! Thanks, Tim. On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Jon "maddog" Hall <jon.maddog.hall(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Ok. > > So unless someone writes to the list and says "Heck no, I do not want that > as****e invading from the frozen north to talk about such an inane topic." > I will trundle my way down and give my talk: > > Title: "What SBC computer is right for *me*"? > > I will need an LCD projector with either VGA or HDMI input. > > md > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017, 07:43 Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> That sounds great! >> >> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 5:05 AM Robert Schwein < >> robert.athol.mass(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I certainly would be very interested. >> >> >> Thanks, Bob >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1/4/2017 9:02 PM, Jon "maddog" Hall >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I recently gave a talk on "How to pick a single board >> >> computer". I would be happy to give this to you folks. >> >> >> Let me know. >> >> >> md >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017, 20:59 Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hey Gang, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Our next meeting is going to be >> >> January 12th 2017. I'm going to be unable to attend. I >> >> initially was planning on giving a talk about git >> >> methodologies, I'm going to do that talk in February >> >> instead. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> If anyone would like to setup and do >> >> a talk, by all means, let me know, otherwise, I'll declare >> >> this an general meeting. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Tim. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> I am leery >> >> of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Wlug mailing list >> >> >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wlug mailing list >> >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wlug mailing list >> >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> -- >> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 5, 2017

Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting January 12th 2017!

by Jon "maddog" Hall

Ok. So unless someone writes to the list and says "Heck no, I do not want that as****e invading from the frozen north to talk about such an inane topic." I will trundle my way down and give my talk: Title: "What SBC computer is right for *me*"? I will need an LCD projector with either VGA or HDMI input. md On Thu, Jan 5, 2017, 07:43 Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > That sounds great! > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 5:05 AM Robert Schwein <robert.athol.mass(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly would be very interested. > > > Thanks, Bob > > > > > > > > On 1/4/2017 9:02 PM, Jon "maddog" Hall > > wrote: > > > > > > > I recently gave a talk on "How to pick a single board > > computer". I would be happy to give this to you folks. > > > Let me know. > > > md > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2017, 20:59 Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Gang, > > > > > > > Our next meeting is going to be > > January 12th 2017. I'm going to be unable to attend. I > > initially was planning on giving a talk about git > > methodologies, I'm going to do that talk in February > > instead. > > > > > > > > If anyone would like to setup and do > > a talk, by all means, let me know, otherwise, I'll declare > > this an general meeting. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Tim. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > I am leery > > of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > > constituents as "consumers". > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 5, 2017

Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting January 12th 2017!

by Eric Martin

That sounds great! On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 5:05 AM Robert Schwein <robert.athol.mass(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly would be very interested. > > > Thanks, Bob > > > > > > > > On 1/4/2017 9:02 PM, Jon "maddog" Hall > > wrote: > > > > > > > I recently gave a talk on "How to pick a single board > > computer". I would be happy to give this to you folks. > > > Let me know. > > > md > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2017, 20:59 Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Gang, > > > > > > > Our next meeting is going to be > > January 12th 2017. I'm going to be unable to attend. I > > initially was planning on giving a talk about git > > methodologies, I'm going to do that talk in February > > instead. > > > > > > > > If anyone would like to setup and do > > a talk, by all means, let me know, otherwise, I'll declare > > this an general meeting. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Tim. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > I am leery > > of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > > constituents as "consumers". > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile

Jan. 5, 2017

Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting January 12th 2017!

by Robert Schwein

I certainly would be very interested. Thanks, Bob On 1/4/2017 9:02 PM, Jon "maddog" Hall wrote: > > I recently gave a talk on "How to pick a single board computer". I > would be happy to give this to you folks. > > Let me know. > > md > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2017, 20:59 Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com > <mailto:turbofx@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > Our next meeting is going to be January 12th 2017. I'm going to > be unable to attend. I initially was planning on giving a talk > about git methodologies, I'm going to do that talk in February > instead. > > If anyone would like to setup and do a talk, by all means, let me > know, otherwise, I'll declare this an general meeting. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to > their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 5, 2017

Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting January 12th 2017!

by David Glaser

That would be interesting! On 01/04/2017 09:02 PM, Jon "maddog" Hall wrote: > > I recently gave a talk on "How to pick a single board computer". I > would be happy to give this to you folks. > > Let me know. > > md > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2017, 20:59 Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com > <mailto:turbofx@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > Our next meeting is going to be January 12th 2017. I'm going to > be unable to attend. I initially was planning on giving a talk > about git methodologies, I'm going to do that talk in February > instead. > > If anyone would like to setup and do a talk, by all means, let me > know, otherwise, I'll declare this an general meeting. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to > their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 5, 2017

Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting January 12th 2017!

by Jon "maddog" Hall

I recently gave a talk on "How to pick a single board computer". I would be happy to give this to you folks. Let me know. md On Wed, Jan 4, 2017, 20:59 Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Our next meeting is going to be January 12th 2017. I'm going to be unable > to attend. I initially was planning on giving a talk about git > methodologies, I'm going to do that talk in February instead. > > If anyone would like to setup and do a talk, by all means, let me know, > otherwise, I'll declare this an general meeting. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 5, 2017

Next Meeting January 12th 2017!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Our next meeting is going to be January 12th 2017. I'm going to be unable to attend. I initially was planning on giving a talk about git methodologies, I'm going to do that talk in February instead. If anyone would like to setup and do a talk, by all means, let me know, otherwise, I'll declare this an general meeting. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 5, 2017

expanding Europe's Linux Presentation Day to the US

by Hauke Laging

Hello, in May 2015 Berlin's Linux user group (BeLUG) has started a new type of event which has spread quickly all over Europe: the Linux Presentation Day (LPD) 2015.1: Berlin only 2016.1 & 2016.2: 120+ cities in 15 countries 2017.1: first locations outside Europe (Canada, New Zealand, probably more) I contact you because we intend to expand the LPD beyond Europe next year. The aim of the LPD towards the general public is to provide biannual and comprehensive information events about Linux for private users who would like to get a first impression of Linux. The aim towards the media is to make the event so big (both nationally and internationally) that the nationwide non-IT media cover it regularly. The aim towards the Linux community is that an LPD event can be so small and easy to organize (even without costs) that really everyone can try to organize an event with good chances of success. The local organizers decide on their own what their event shall be like; we just make suggestions and offer support. You can find a longer description of the concept here: http://www.linux-presentation-day.org/idea/ Are you as an organization interested in participating in the LPD? If not: Are any of your members interested in helping us bring the LPD to the US? This event is very useful for finding new LUG members. Best regards, (Mr.) Hauke Laging -- http://www.linux-presentation-day.org/ International phone contact for the Linux Presentation Day: tel:+49-30-55579620 (13:00–23:00, German and English) XMPP (Chat with OTR): linux-presentation-day(a)jabber.ccc.de OTR: 91626899 1C06F2BD 75EC2441 35C696CE 38F75997

Dec. 9, 2016

Reminder: December Meeting tonight @ 7PM!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Don't forget we've got a meeting tonight! Eric Martin is going to do a quick and dirty talk on setting up a personal RPZ server! Date: Dec 8th, 2016 Time: 7pm Location: Campus Center Rm 301 (Hagglund Room) Topic: Personal RPZ Snacks and Refreshments will be provided. Afterwards we'll head down to Tech Pizza continue the conversation! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Dec. 8, 2016

Meeting Dec 8th at 7pm: Topic: Personal RPZ

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Long time member Eric Martin has graciously stepped up to do another talk. This time it'll be about setting up a personal RPZ server. We all know we'll be setting lots of new devices up in the coming month... RPZ is basically a "spam" filter for your DNS. It works to keep your devices from gong to sites infected with malware and "jam the lock" of any existing mailware from getting back to it's command and control. Eric will give an overview and explain a quick and dirty on how to set one up. Time: 7pm Location: Campus Center Rm 301 (Haggland Rm. It's on the same floor as the Mid Century room we're normally in, only at the top of the stairs take a right instead of a left. We're still waiting for confirmation After that we'll head down to Tech Pizza. As usual snacks and refreshments will be provided. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Dec. 6, 2016

Humble Bundle for O'Reilly Linux related books

by Sweetser, Frank E

If you've ever wanted to add some of these Linux and networking O'Reilly books to your collection, you're not likely to ever find a better price. https://www.humblebundle.com/books/unix-book-bundle?mcID=102:582a62fe486e54… Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>

Nov. 24, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Topics for upcoming meetings!

by John Stoffel

I could possibly whine and complain about virtsh tools from the CLI... Sent from my Amiga 1000 > On Nov 22, 2016, at 8:24 PM, "thinkbrown(a)gmail.com" <thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I'd be willing to give a talk on Linux virtualization beyond Virtualbox if anyone's interested. I've been running a CentOS-based virtualization server for a while now, so I could talk a bit about that. > > -Logan > >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:10 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: >> >> Ansible/chef/puppet/salt would be all good. >> >> Eric> I like em all, I'm down for giving the RPZ talk whenever. >> Eric> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 5:30 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Eric> Hey Gang, >> >> Eric> After last meeting, we were sitting around and started brainstorming some >> Eric> ideas for upcoming >> Eric> meetings. >> >> Eric> Here were some of the ideas that came up... >> >> Eric> - 2 factor authentication >> Eric> - Full disk encryption or partition encryption with luks + ubee token >> Eric> - Personal rpz >> Eric> - Home automation with Raspberry pi >> Eric> - Ansible and/or other automation / configuration tools >> Eric> - git methodologies, i.e. now that you've got git, how to use it >> Eric> effectively >> Eric> - Modern Linux kernel compiling for fun and performance! >> >> Eric> Suggestions? Let me know! >> >> Eric> Thanks, >> Eric> Tim. >> >> Eric> -- >> Eric> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> Eric> constituents as "consumers". >> Eric> _______________________________________________ >> Eric> Wlug mailing list >> Eric> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> Eric> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> Eric> -- >> Eric> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> Eric> _______________________________________________ >> Eric> Wlug mailing list >> Eric> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> Eric> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Nov. 23, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Topics for upcoming meetings!

by Richard Klein

I'm working nights now, so I'm not sure I'll be able to make next meeting. Any of the topics work for me, but I have an immediate interest in virtualization. On Nov 22, 2016 10:26 PM, "thinkbrown(a)gmail.com" <thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'd be willing to give a talk on Linux virtualization beyond Virtualbox if > anyone's interested. I've been running a CentOS-based virtualization server > for a while now, so I could talk a bit about that. > > -Logan > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:10 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >> >> Ansible/chef/puppet/salt would be all good. >> >> Eric> I like em all, I'm down for giving the RPZ talk whenever. >> Eric> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 5:30 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Eric> Hey Gang, >> >> Eric> After last meeting, we were sitting around and started >> brainstorming some >> Eric> ideas for upcoming >> Eric> meetings. >> >> Eric> Here were some of the ideas that came up... >> >> Eric> - 2 factor authentication >> Eric> - Full disk encryption or partition encryption with luks + ubee >> token >> Eric> - Personal rpz >> Eric> - Home automation with Raspberry pi >> Eric> - Ansible and/or other automation / configuration tools >> Eric> - git methodologies, i.e. now that you've got git, how to use it >> Eric> effectively >> Eric> - Modern Linux kernel compiling for fun and performance! >> >> Eric> Suggestions? Let me know! >> >> Eric> Thanks, >> Eric> Tim. >> >> Eric> -- >> Eric> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to >> their >> Eric> constituents as "consumers". >> Eric> _______________________________________________ >> Eric> Wlug mailing list >> Eric> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> Eric> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> Eric> -- >> Eric> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> Eric> _______________________________________________ >> Eric> Wlug mailing list >> Eric> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> Eric> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Nov. 23, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Topics for upcoming meetings!

by thinkbrown＠gmail.com

I'd be willing to give a talk on Linux virtualization beyond Virtualbox if anyone's interested. I've been running a CentOS-based virtualization server for a while now, so I could talk a bit about that. -Logan On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:10 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Ansible/chef/puppet/salt would be all good. > > Eric> I like em all, I'm down for giving the RPZ talk whenever. > Eric> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 5:30 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Eric> Hey Gang, > > Eric> After last meeting, we were sitting around and started > brainstorming some > Eric> ideas for upcoming > Eric> meetings. > > Eric> Here were some of the ideas that came up... > > Eric> - 2 factor authentication > Eric> - Full disk encryption or partition encryption with luks + ubee > token > Eric> - Personal rpz > Eric> - Home automation with Raspberry pi > Eric> - Ansible and/or other automation / configuration tools > Eric> - git methodologies, i.e. now that you've got git, how to use it > Eric> effectively > Eric> - Modern Linux kernel compiling for fun and performance! > > Eric> Suggestions? Let me know! > > Eric> Thanks, > Eric> Tim. > > Eric> -- > Eric> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to > their > Eric> constituents as "consumers". > Eric> _______________________________________________ > Eric> Wlug mailing list > Eric> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Eric> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > Eric> -- > Eric> Sent from Gmail Mobile > Eric> _______________________________________________ > Eric> Wlug mailing list > Eric> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Eric> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Nov. 23, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Topics for upcoming meetings!

by John Stoffel

Ansible/chef/puppet/salt would be all good. Eric> I like em all, I'm down for giving the RPZ talk whenever. Eric> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 5:30 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: Eric> Hey Gang, Eric> After last meeting, we were sitting around and started brainstorming some Eric> ideas for upcoming Eric> meetings. Eric> Here were some of the ideas that came up... Eric> - 2 factor authentication Eric> - Full disk encryption or partition encryption with luks + ubee token Eric> - Personal rpz Eric> - Home automation with Raspberry pi Eric> - Ansible and/or other automation / configuration tools Eric> - git methodologies, i.e. now that you've got git, how to use it Eric> effectively Eric> - Modern Linux kernel compiling for fun and performance! Eric> Suggestions? Let me know! Eric> Thanks, Eric> Tim. Eric> -- Eric> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their Eric> constituents as "consumers". Eric> _______________________________________________ Eric> Wlug mailing list Eric> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Eric> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Eric> -- Eric> Sent from Gmail Mobile Eric> _______________________________________________ Eric> Wlug mailing list Eric> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Eric> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Nov. 23, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Topics for upcoming meetings!

by Eric Martin

I like em all, I'm down for giving the RPZ talk whenever. On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 5:30 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > After last meeting, we were sitting around and started brainstorming some > ideas for upcoming > meetings. > > Here were some of the ideas that came up... > > - 2 factor authentication > - Full disk encryption or partition encryption with luks + ubee token > - Personal rpz > - Home automation with Raspberry pi > - Ansible and/or other automation / configuration tools > - git methodologies, i.e. now that you've got git, how to use it > effectively > - Modern Linux kernel compiling for fun and performance! > > Suggestions? Let me know! > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile

Nov. 23, 2016

Topics for upcoming meetings!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, After last meeting, we were sitting around and started brainstorming some ideas for upcoming meetings. Here were some of the ideas that came up... - 2 factor authentication - Full disk encryption or partition encryption with luks + ubee token - Personal rpz - Home automation with Raspberry pi - Ansible and/or other automation / configuration tools - git methodologies, i.e. now that you've got git, how to use it effectively - Modern Linux kernel compiling for fun and performance! Suggestions? Let me know! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 22, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Meeting Nov. 10th Key Signing!

by Keith Wright

Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> writes: > *What do I need to do beforehand* > Before the party, please email me your > *FULL* PGP KeyID (gpg --fingerprint ${EMAIL} ) > > gpg --fingerprint ejmartin2(a)wpi.edu ~$ gpg --fingerprint kwright(a)keithdiane.us pub 2048R/43EEB150 2016-11-10 [expires: 2018-11-10] Key fingerprint = 20F6 F975 6C31 26BD 5C41 87CC 489D F3D6 43EE B150 uid Keith Wright (Fridley MN, PhD Pitt'89) <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> sub 2048R/E79BAB29 2016-11-10 [expires: 2018-11-10] > Please also send your key to ~$ gpg --list-secret-keys | grep ^sec sec 2048R/43EEB150 2016-11-10 [expires: 2018-11-10] ...hope that's what you wanted. -- Keith

Nov. 10, 2016

Reminder: Meeting Nov. 10th, 2016, Key Signing!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, We've got a meeting today on the 10th. Long time member Eric Martin is going to be hosting a key signing! Location: WPI Rec Center (RC61) "Class of '61 room" (Top Floor) http://maps.wpi.edu/map/?id=609&mrkIid=65287 Date & Time: Nov. 10th @ 7pm Excerpt from Eric: Hey all, Sorry for the (amazingly) late details on this. I will be hosting a key signing party tomorrow for WLUG. What is a key signing party you ask? A key signing party is where people get together in the real world and verify each other's identities so we may communicate securely in the digital world. *What do I need to do beforehand* Before the party, please email me your *FULL* PGP KeyID (gpg --fingerprint ${EMAIL} ) gpg --fingerprint ejmartin2(a)wpi.edu pub 4096R/C704B30F 2013-06-29 [expires: 2017-09-22] Key fingerprint = C74F 1EBF 2E80 7984 8CB5 064E BF17 D34C C704 B30F uid [ultimate] Eric J. Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> uid [ultimate] Eric J. Martin <ejmartin2(a)wpi.edu> uid [ultimate] [jpeg image of size 32747] sub 4096R/A294DC22 2016-04-16 [expires: 2018-04-16] sub 4096R/E8F5A237 2016-04-16 [expires: 2018-04-16] sub 4096R/B1892A10 2016-05-11 [expires: 2018-05-11] and I will include you in the listing. Please also send your key to If you aren't able to send me this, please bring 10-20 copies of your full fingerprint to hand out to people. * If you do not have a key already, *you can create one. There are plenty of GUI tools for Windows, Mac and Linux, I prefer the CLI though. *gpg --gen-key* will get you started. I prefer RSA keys 4096 bits long, but you can do otherwise. Do not use anything under 2048 bits in length. *What do I need to bring* 1. Yourself 2. A copy of your key's fingerprint to confirm the copy we'll be distributing 3. A government issued photo ID You can find details at http://wlug.org/keysigning/ (just send the keys to eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com) If you come out to dinner tomorrow, ask me about RAID 6 arrays losing 4 drives at a time ;) As usual Snacks and refreshments will be provided and afterwards we'll be heading down to Tech Pizza to keep the nerdiness at full power. Thanks, Tim.

Nov. 10, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Meeting Nov. 10th Key Signing!

by Eric Martin

Hey all, Sorry for the (amazingly) late details on this. I will be hosting a key signing party tomorrow for WLUG. What is a key signing party you ask? A key signing party is where people get together in the real world and verify each other's identities so we may communicate securely in the digital world. *What do I need to do beforehand* Before the party, please email me your *FULL* PGP KeyID (gpg --fingerprint ${EMAIL} ) gpg --fingerprint ejmartin2(a)wpi.edu pub 4096R/C704B30F 2013-06-29 [expires: 2017-09-22] Key fingerprint = C74F 1EBF 2E80 7984 8CB5 064E BF17 D34C C704 B30F uid [ultimate] Eric J. Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> uid [ultimate] Eric J. Martin <ejmartin2(a)wpi.edu> uid [ultimate] [jpeg image of size 32747] sub 4096R/A294DC22 2016-04-16 [expires: 2018-04-16] sub 4096R/E8F5A237 2016-04-16 [expires: 2018-04-16] sub 4096R/B1892A10 2016-05-11 [expires: 2018-05-11] and I will include you in the listing. Please also send your key to If you aren't able to send me this, please bring 10-20 copies of your full fingerprint to hand out to people. * If you do not have a key already, *you can create one. There are plenty of GUI tools for Windows, Mac and Linux, I prefer the CLI though. *gpg --gen-key* will get you started. I prefer RSA keys 4096 bits long, but you can do otherwise. Do not use anything under 2048 bits in length. *What do I need to bring* 1. Yourself 2. A copy of your key's fingerprint to confirm the copy we'll be distributing 3. A government issued photo ID You can find details at http://wlug.org/keysigning/ (just send the keys to eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com) If you come out to dinner tomorrow, ask me about RAID 6 arrays losing 4 drives at a time ;) On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Our next meeting is going to be Nov. 10th. > > Location: Somewhere at WPI (TBD) > Time: 7pm > Topic: Key Signing > Speaker: Eric Martin > > Eric Martin is going to be organizing a key signing. > > When we get more details I'll send out a more detailed email! > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Eric Martin

Nov. 10, 2016

Linux Drivers contract opening in MA

by John Spencer

We have a contract with an existing client in the Westford/Chelmsford area looking for a Sr Linux Drivers engineer for a contract opening. It is currently budgeted through the end of the year, but could be extended beyond that as they are working on 2017 budgets now. Our client needs someone with strong Linux drivers experience. Ideally someone with Yocto and the LXP processor from NXP, but those are not hard requirements. The key is strong Linux drivers skills. Please call or email me with if you are interested or have any questions. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Office: (978) 455-5550 x208 Cell: (978) 621-9743 jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com GET CONNECTED! All information in this email, unless indicated otherwise in the body of the email, is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

Nov. 7, 2016

Wlug Meeting Nov. 10th Key Signing!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Our next meeting is going to be Nov. 10th. Location: Somewhere at WPI (TBD) Time: 7pm Topic: Key Signing Speaker: Eric Martin Eric Martin is going to be organizing a key signing. When we get more details I'll send out a more detailed email! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 1, 2016

Many thanks...

by Marty Greenstein

....to the Goodman's for their gracious hospitality and to all for the warm welcomes Thank you one and all Marty Greenstein President BSI (Business Systems Inc.) 208 Cedar Hill Street P.O. Box 850 Marlborough, MA 01752 508.624.4600 508.624.0100 FAX www.bsi.us.com

Oct. 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Thursday Oct 13th, 2016: Annual WLUG Pizza party.

by Tim Keller

Chip, dips, etc sounds great. It looks like it's going to be a quite a shindig. Tim. On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 4:25 PM, thinkbrown(a)gmail.com <thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Should I bring anything in particular? Beer, chips, whatever? > > On Oct 13, 2016 4:14 PM, "Stepanian, Caleb M" <cmstepanian(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > >> I'm bringing myself and a friend. >> >> Cal >> ________________________________________ >> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org <wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org> on behalf >> of thinkbrown(a)gmail.com <thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:56:39 PM >> To: Worcester Linux Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Thursday Oct 13th, 2016: Annual WLUG >> Pizza party. >> >> I'll be there >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Eric Martin < >> eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com<mailto:eric.joshua.martin@gmail.com>> wrote: >> I'm in >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com<mailto:turb >> ofx(a)gmail.com>> wrote: >> Hey Gang, >> >> Please let me know if you're going to be attending so we can have an >> accurate number. >> >> Time: 6pm >> Location: 51 Valley Hill Drive, Worcester MA >> >> Dick Goodman has graciously offered to host the annual wlug get >> together. This year we're doing a Pizza party. >> >> I'll be supplying snacks and drinks, Dick will be supplying the pizza. >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> >> -- >> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org<mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 13, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Thursday Oct 13th, 2016: Annual WLUG Pizza party.

by thinkbrown＠gmail.com

Should I bring anything in particular? Beer, chips, whatever? On Oct 13, 2016 4:14 PM, "Stepanian, Caleb M" <cmstepanian(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > I'm bringing myself and a friend. > > Cal > ________________________________________ > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org <wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org> on behalf > of thinkbrown(a)gmail.com <thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:56:39 PM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Thursday Oct 13th, 2016: Annual WLUG > Pizza party. > > I'll be there > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com > <mailto:eric.joshua.martin@gmail.com>> wrote: > I'm in > > > On Tuesday, October 11, 2016, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com<mailto:turb > ofx(a)gmail.com>> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Please let me know if you're going to be attending so we can have an > accurate number. > > Time: 6pm > Location: 51 Valley Hill Drive, Worcester MA > > Dick Goodman has graciously offered to host the annual wlug get together. > This year we're doing a Pizza party. > > I'll be supplying snacks and drinks, Dick will be supplying the pizza. > > Thanks, > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org<mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Oct. 13, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Thursday Oct 13th, 2016: Annual WLUG Pizza party.

by Stepanian, Caleb M

I'm bringing myself and a friend. Cal ________________________________________ From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org <wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org> on behalf of thinkbrown(a)gmail.com <thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:56:39 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Thursday Oct 13th, 2016: Annual WLUG Pizza party. I'll be there On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com<mailto:eric.joshua.martin@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm in On Tuesday, October 11, 2016, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com<mailto:turbofx@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey Gang, Please let me know if you're going to be attending so we can have an accurate number. Time: 6pm Location: 51 Valley Hill Drive, Worcester MA Dick Goodman has graciously offered to host the annual wlug get together. This year we're doing a Pizza party. I'll be supplying snacks and drinks, Dick will be supplying the pizza. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". -- Sent from Gmail Mobile _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org<mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 13, 2016

RSVP

by Joshua Stone

Hello, I'd just like to say that I'm interested in attending tonight's party and will arrive there with a friend. This will be my first WLUG gathering, so I'm very excited! Sincerely, Joshua Stone

Oct. 13, 2016

Re: [Wlug] RSVP

by Keith Wright

I will be there. I will walk, not necessarily from home, so I don't want to be lugging a lot of stuff, but I can throw money at the problem. -- Keith

Oct. 13, 2016

Re: [Wlug] RSVP

by Tim Keller

Awesome!!! On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Marty Greenstein < marty.greenstein(a)bsi.us.com> wrote: > I'll b attending my first gathering......desserts in tow > > Marty Greenstein > President > BSI (Business Systems Inc.) > 208 Cedar Hill Street > P.O. Box 850 > Marlborough, MA 01752 > 508.624.4600 > 508.624.0100 FAX > www.bsi.us.com > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 12, 2016

RSVP

by Marty Greenstein

I'll b attending my first gathering......desserts in tow Marty Greenstein President BSI (Business Systems Inc.) 208 Cedar Hill Street P.O. Box 850 Marlborough, MA 01752 508.624.4600 508.624.0100 FAX www.bsi.us.com

Oct. 12, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Thursday Oct 13th, 2016: Annual WLUG Pizza party.

by thinkbrown＠gmail.com

I'll be there On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm in > > > On Tuesday, October 11, 2016, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey Gang, >> >> Please let me know if you're going to be attending so we can have an >> accurate number. >> >> Time: 6pm >> Location: 51 Valley Hill Drive, Worcester MA >> >> Dick Goodman has graciously offered to host the annual wlug get >> together. This year we're doing a Pizza party. >> >> I'll be supplying snacks and drinks, Dick will be supplying the pizza. >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> > > > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Oct. 12, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Thursday Oct 13th, 2016: Annual WLUG Pizza party.

by Eric Martin

I'm in On Tuesday, October 11, 2016, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Please let me know if you're going to be attending so we can have an > accurate number. > > Time: 6pm > Location: 51 Valley Hill Drive, Worcester MA > > Dick Goodman has graciously offered to host the annual wlug get together. > This year we're doing a Pizza party. > > I'll be supplying snacks and drinks, Dick will be supplying the pizza. > > Thanks, > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile

Oct. 11, 2016

Reminder: Thursday Oct 13th, 2016: Annual WLUG Pizza party.

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Please let me know if you're going to be attending so we can have an accurate number. Time: 6pm Location: 51 Valley Hill Drive, Worcester MA Dick Goodman has graciously offered to host the annual wlug get together. This year we're doing a Pizza party. I'll be supplying snacks and drinks, Dick will be supplying the pizza. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 11, 2016

Annual WLUG Party October 13th 2016

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Long time member Richard Goodman has graciously offered to host the annual WLUG party at his house. This year instead of BBQ, we're going to do pizza. Date: October 13th, 2016 Time: 6:00 PM Location: 51 Valley Hill Drive, Worcester MA Weather permitting we might even be outside! Feel free to bring soda and other beverages, chip & dips, salad, desserts, etc. Dick will provide the main courses to keep it all kosher. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 6, 2016

Re: [Wlug] I'm still here

by THE HAMMER

raggensdraddle4: More info about meetings and times can be found at: http://www.wlug.org On 10/01/2016 08:32 AM, raggensdraddle4 wrote: > Thank you for the post. I'm still here as a Wlug member. When is the > next meeting? Perhaps we can have a meeting about the present dark > hacks and malware. Meanwhile, I'm touring the new Linux Mint 18 and > find it fresh and very stable but limited in some areas. I think they > will add things to upgrades and updates. Again, thank you. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 2, 2016

I'm still here

by raggensdraddle4

Thank you for the post. I'm still here as a Wlug member. When is the next meeting? Perhaps we can have a meeting about the present dark hacks and malware. Meanwhile, I'm touring the new Linux Mint 18 and find it fresh and very stable but limited in some areas. I think they will add things to upgrades and updates. Again, thank you.

Oct. 1, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Sept. 15th, 2016 @ 7PM Topic: Docker Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232

by reinhart＠discom.com

That would be great. Thanks. Al On 2016-09-14 10:00, Tim Keller wrote: > We can easily make up something to stick on the door that says "WLUG: > RM 323" > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:09 AM, <reinhart(a)discom.com> wrote: > >> Tim, >> >> The meeting announcement I sent to the IEEE members (see below) >> included >> the wrong room number. I cannot notify them before the meeting of >> the >> typo that was in the announcement. >> >> Tomorrow I will be in Boston all day at a VMware vForum conference >> that >> ends at 4-5 o'clock and can't be sure I will get to WPI before 7pm. >> Is >> there some way you can put up some signage on Washburn doors >> indicating >> the correct room number? I don't know how many, or if, any IEEE >> members >> will attend but the meeting's topic should be of interest to some of >> them. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Al >> >> ------------------------ >> >> IEEE Meeting Announcement: >> >> Container Technologies >> When: Thursday, September 15th, 2016 >> Time: 7 to 9 pm >> Where: WPI, Washburn Labs, Room 232 >> >> This Worcester County Section Computer Society Chapter and the >> Worcester >> Linux User Group (WLUG) joint meeting will introduce and discuss >> software container technologies. The presentation will introduce >> and >> consider application containerization and container orchestration >> including some comparisons between current platforms (Docker, etc). >> >> Over the past couple of years container technologies have become an >> increasingly popular and important virtualization alternative. >> Consequently, software developers involved with web based and >> mobile >> application development, and "microservices" in general, are being >> expected to understand container technologies, and how to >> containerize >> their applications and manage a containerized environment. By >> packaging >> microservices in containers the applications can, if required, be >> portable across all the physical, virtual, and cloud environments, >> increasing agility and efficiency, and greatly accelerate time to >> market. >> >> The meeting's presentation, by William Temple, will consider, with >> an >> emphasis on the Docker/OCI and the Kubernetes orchestration stack: >> - Containers 101: Introduction & Motivations >> - Container Technologies >> -- Docker >> -- Open Containers Initiative >> -- LXC, rkt, and others >> - Container Implementation >> -- namespaces >> -- cgroups >> -- security implications, comparison to Virtual Machines >> - Containers in Production (Kubernetes, etc.) >> - Containers in Consumer Environments (Flatpak, Snappy, etc.) >> >> The meeting presenter is William Temple, a Senior Computer Science >> major >> at WPI who has spent the last two summers working on container >> technologies at Red Hat under the Project Atomic/OpenShift banners. >> >> The meeting will be held on the WPI campus in Washburn Labs, Room >> 232. >> The meeting will start at 7:00 PM and should end by 9:00. >> Reservations >> are not required. For last minute meeting information check the WLUG >> web >> site: http://www.wlug.org >> >> If you are not familiar with the WPI campus, a map is at >> http://www.wpi.edu/about/visitors/campusmap.html [1] >> >> After the meeting, attendees usually go out for pizza. >> >> If you have any questions you can contact Al Reinhart at >> AlReinhart(a)ieee.org >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> On 2016-09-14 07:24, Tim Keller wrote: >>> Good Catch! It is room 323! I'll fix the mail! >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Keith Wright >> <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: >>>> >>>>> We have a WLUG meeting on Sept. 15th at 7PM! >>>>> >>>>> Here are the vitals: >>>>> Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232 @7pm >>>> >>>> Diane, who works in Washburn, thinks that >>>> there is no Rm 232, but 323 is a big room. >>>> I don't know, but somebody might double-check >>>> the number. If you can't find 232, look for 323. >>>> >>>> -- Keith >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wlug mailing list >>>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug [2] [1] >>> >>> -- >>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to >> their >>> constituents as "consumers". >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug [2] >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug [2] >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug [2] > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.wpi.edu/about/visitors/campusmap.html > [2] http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Sept. 15th, 2016 @ 7PM Topic: Docker Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232

by Tim Keller

We can easily make up something to stick on the door that says "WLUG: RM 323" On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:09 AM, <reinhart(a)discom.com> wrote: > Tim, > > The meeting announcement I sent to the IEEE members (see below) included > the wrong room number. I cannot notify them before the meeting of the > typo that was in the announcement. > > Tomorrow I will be in Boston all day at a VMware vForum conference that > ends at 4-5 o'clock and can't be sure I will get to WPI before 7pm. Is > there some way you can put up some signage on Washburn doors indicating > the correct room number? I don't know how many, or if, any IEEE members > will attend but the meeting's topic should be of interest to some of > them. > > Thanks, > > Al > > ------------------------ > > IEEE Meeting Announcement: > > Container Technologies > When: Thursday, September 15th, 2016 > Time: 7 to 9 pm > Where: WPI, Washburn Labs, Room 232 > > > This Worcester County Section Computer Society Chapter and the Worcester > Linux User Group (WLUG) joint meeting will introduce and discuss > software container technologies. The presentation will introduce and > consider application containerization and container orchestration > including some comparisons between current platforms (Docker, etc). > > Over the past couple of years container technologies have become an > increasingly popular and important virtualization alternative. > Consequently, software developers involved with web based and mobile > application development, and "microservices" in general, are being > expected to understand container technologies, and how to containerize > their applications and manage a containerized environment. By packaging > microservices in containers the applications can, if required, be > portable across all the physical, virtual, and cloud environments, > increasing agility and efficiency, and greatly accelerate time to > market. > > The meeting's presentation, by William Temple, will consider, with an > emphasis on the Docker/OCI and the Kubernetes orchestration stack: > - Containers 101: Introduction & Motivations > - Container Technologies > -- Docker > -- Open Containers Initiative > -- LXC, rkt, and others > - Container Implementation > -- namespaces > -- cgroups > -- security implications, comparison to Virtual Machines > - Containers in Production (Kubernetes, etc.) > - Containers in Consumer Environments (Flatpak, Snappy, etc.) > > The meeting presenter is William Temple, a Senior Computer Science major > at WPI who has spent the last two summers working on container > technologies at Red Hat under the Project Atomic/OpenShift banners. > > The meeting will be held on the WPI campus in Washburn Labs, Room 232. > The meeting will start at 7:00 PM and should end by 9:00. Reservations > are not required. For last minute meeting information check the WLUG web > site: http://www.wlug.org > > If you are not familiar with the WPI campus, a map is at > http://www.wpi.edu/about/visitors/campusmap.html > > After the meeting, attendees usually go out for pizza. > > If you have any questions you can contact Al Reinhart at > AlReinhart(a)ieee.org > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > On 2016-09-14 07:24, Tim Keller wrote: > > Good Catch! It is room 323! I'll fix the mail! > > > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> > > wrote: > > > >> Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> > >>> We have a WLUG meeting on Sept. 15th at 7PM! > >>> > >>> Here are the vitals: > >>> Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232 @7pm > >> > >> Diane, who works in Washburn, thinks that > >> there is no Rm 232, but 323 is a big room. > >> I don't know, but somebody might double-check > >> the number. If you can't find 232, look for 323. > >> > >> -- Keith > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wlug mailing list > >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug [1] > > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > > constituents as "consumers". > > > > Links: > > ------ > > [1] http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Sept. 15th, 2016 @ 7PM Topic: Docker Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232

by reinhart＠discom.com

Tim, The meeting announcement I sent to the IEEE members (see below) included the wrong room number. I cannot notify them before the meeting of the typo that was in the announcement. Tomorrow I will be in Boston all day at a VMware vForum conference that ends at 4-5 o'clock and can't be sure I will get to WPI before 7pm. Is there some way you can put up some signage on Washburn doors indicating the correct room number? I don't know how many, or if, any IEEE members will attend but the meeting's topic should be of interest to some of them. Thanks, Al ------------------------ IEEE Meeting Announcement: Container Technologies When: Thursday, September 15th, 2016 Time: 7 to 9 pm Where: WPI, Washburn Labs, Room 232 This Worcester County Section Computer Society Chapter and the Worcester Linux User Group (WLUG) joint meeting will introduce and discuss software container technologies. The presentation will introduce and consider application containerization and container orchestration including some comparisons between current platforms (Docker, etc). Over the past couple of years container technologies have become an increasingly popular and important virtualization alternative. Consequently, software developers involved with web based and mobile application development, and "microservices" in general, are being expected to understand container technologies, and how to containerize their applications and manage a containerized environment. By packaging microservices in containers the applications can, if required, be portable across all the physical, virtual, and cloud environments, increasing agility and efficiency, and greatly accelerate time to market. The meeting's presentation, by William Temple, will consider, with an emphasis on the Docker/OCI and the Kubernetes orchestration stack: - Containers 101: Introduction & Motivations - Container Technologies -- Docker -- Open Containers Initiative -- LXC, rkt, and others - Container Implementation -- namespaces -- cgroups -- security implications, comparison to Virtual Machines - Containers in Production (Kubernetes, etc.) - Containers in Consumer Environments (Flatpak, Snappy, etc.) The meeting presenter is William Temple, a Senior Computer Science major at WPI who has spent the last two summers working on container technologies at Red Hat under the Project Atomic/OpenShift banners. The meeting will be held on the WPI campus in Washburn Labs, Room 232. The meeting will start at 7:00 PM and should end by 9:00. Reservations are not required. For last minute meeting information check the WLUG web site: http://www.wlug.org If you are not familiar with the WPI campus, a map is at http://www.wpi.edu/about/visitors/campusmap.html After the meeting, attendees usually go out for pizza. If you have any questions you can contact Al Reinhart at AlReinhart(a)ieee.org ------------------------------ On 2016-09-14 07:24, Tim Keller wrote: > Good Catch! It is room 323! I'll fix the mail! > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> > wrote: > >> Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: >> >>> We have a WLUG meeting on Sept. 15th at 7PM! >>> >>> Here are the vitals: >>> Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232 @7pm >> >> Diane, who works in Washburn, thinks that >> there is no Rm 232, but 323 is a big room. >> I don't know, but somebody might double-check >> the number. If you can't find 232, look for 323. >> >> -- Keith >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug [1] > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 14, 2016

WLUG Meeting Sept. 15th, 2016 @ 7PM Topic: Docker Location: Washburn Labs Rm 323

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! We have a WLUG meeting on Sept. 15th at 7PM! Here are the vitals: Location: Washburn Labs Rm *323* @7pm (NOTE room 323 not 232!) Speaker: William Temple Topic: Container technologies... The speaker for this meeting is William Temple. Here's what he recently posted to the list (if you didn't already see it) Thanks for inviting me to give a talk on containers this Thursday. I'm a Senior at WPI and spent the last two summers working on container technologies at Red Hat under the Project Atomic/OpenShift banners. If you all are interested, topics for discussion could be: - Containers 101: Introduction & Motivations - Container Technologies -- docker -- Open Containers Initiative -- LXC, rkt, and others - Container Implementation -- namespaces -- cgroups -- security implications, comparison to Virtual Machines - Containers in Production (Kubernetes, etc.) - Containers in Consumer Environments (Flatpak, Snappy, etc.) If there are any other container-related topics you'd like to hear about, please just let me know and I can work them in. I'm mostly familiar with the Docker/OCI & Kubernetes orchestration stack, so I won't be able to go into technical details about other systems, but can give an overview if someone else wants to get into the weeds about any other container systems. I'd like to thank Logan for getting this organized and for William for being accomidating of our location and schedule change. As always, there will be refreshments and snacks and we'll head to Tech Pizza afterwards! See ya there! -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Sept. 15th, 2016 @ 7PM Topic: Docker Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232

by Tim Keller

Good Catch! It is room 323! I'll fix the mail! On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > We have a WLUG meeting on Sept. 15th at 7PM! > > > > Here are the vitals: > > Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232 @7pm > > Diane, who works in Washburn, thinks that > there is no Rm 232, but 323 is a big room. > I don't know, but somebody might double-check > the number. If you can't find 232, look for 323. > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Sept. 15th, 2016 @ 7PM Topic: Docker Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232

by Keith Wright

Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > We have a WLUG meeting on Sept. 15th at 7PM! > > Here are the vitals: > Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232 @7pm Diane, who works in Washburn, thinks that there is no Rm 232, but 323 is a big room. I don't know, but somebody might double-check the number. If you can't find 232, look for 323. -- Keith

Sept. 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Sept. 15th, 2016 @ 7PM Topic: Docker Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232

by Tim Keller

Here's the building... http://maps.wpi.edu/map/?id=609#!s/key=washburn Tim. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Washburn labs, it's under the large smokestack / cell tower. > > > On Monday, September 12, 2016, JeffA Maillists <jeffa.maillists(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Tim, >> What building is the room in? >> >> Thanks, Jeff. >> >> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 5:15 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey Everybody! >>> >>> We have a WLUG meeting on Sept. 15th at 7PM! >>> >>> Here are the vitals: >>> Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232 @7pm >>> Speaker: William Temple >>> Topic: Container technologies... >>> >>> The speaker for this meeting is William Temple. Here's what he recently >>> posted to the list (if you didn't already see it) >>> >>> Thanks for inviting me to give a talk on containers this Thursday. I'm a >>> Senior at WPI and spent the last two summers working on container >>> technologies at Red Hat under the Project Atomic/OpenShift banners. >>> >>> If you all are interested, topics for discussion could be: >>> >>> - Containers 101: Introduction & Motivations >>> >>> - Container Technologies >>> >>> -- docker >>> >>> -- Open Containers Initiative >>> >>> -- LXC, rkt, and others >>> >>> - Container Implementation >>> >>> -- namespaces >>> >>> -- cgroups >>> >>> -- security implications, comparison to Virtual Machines >>> >>> - Containers in Production (Kubernetes, etc.) >>> >>> - Containers in Consumer Environments (Flatpak, Snappy, etc.) >>> >>> >>> If there are any other container-related topics you'd like to hear >>> about, please just let me know and I can work them in. I'm mostly familiar >>> with the Docker/OCI & Kubernetes orchestration stack, so I won't be able to >>> go into technical details about other systems, but can give an overview if >>> someone else wants to get into the weeds about any other container systems. >>> >>> I'd like to thank Logan for getting this organized and for William for >>> being accomidating of our location and schedule change. >>> >>> As always, there will be refreshments and snacks and we'll head to Tech >>> Pizza afterwards! >>> >>> See ya there! >>> >>> Tim. >>> >>> -- >>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >>> constituents as "consumers". >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >> > > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 13, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Sept. 15th, 2016 @ 7PM Topic: Docker Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232

by Eric Martin

Washburn labs, it's under the large smokestack / cell tower. On Monday, September 12, 2016, JeffA Maillists <jeffa.maillists(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Tim, > What building is the room in? > > Thanks, Jeff. > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 5:15 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','turbofx(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> Hey Everybody! >> >> We have a WLUG meeting on Sept. 15th at 7PM! >> >> Here are the vitals: >> Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232 @7pm >> Speaker: William Temple >> Topic: Container technologies... >> >> The speaker for this meeting is William Temple. Here's what he recently >> posted to the list (if you didn't already see it) >> >> Thanks for inviting me to give a talk on containers this Thursday. I'm a >> Senior at WPI and spent the last two summers working on container >> technologies at Red Hat under the Project Atomic/OpenShift banners. >> >> If you all are interested, topics for discussion could be: >> >> - Containers 101: Introduction & Motivations >> >> - Container Technologies >> >> -- docker >> >> -- Open Containers Initiative >> >> -- LXC, rkt, and others >> >> - Container Implementation >> >> -- namespaces >> >> -- cgroups >> >> -- security implications, comparison to Virtual Machines >> >> - Containers in Production (Kubernetes, etc.) >> >> - Containers in Consumer Environments (Flatpak, Snappy, etc.) >> >> >> If there are any other container-related topics you'd like to hear about, >> please just let me know and I can work them in. I'm mostly familiar with >> the Docker/OCI & Kubernetes orchestration stack, so I won't be able to go >> into technical details about other systems, but can give an overview if >> someone else wants to get into the weeds about any other container systems. >> >> I'd like to thank Logan for getting this organized and for William for >> being accomidating of our location and schedule change. >> >> As always, there will be refreshments and snacks and we'll head to Tech >> Pizza afterwards! >> >> See ya there! >> >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org');> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile

Sept. 12, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Sept. 15th, 2016 @ 7PM Topic: Docker Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232

by JeffA Maillists

Hi Tim, What building is the room in? Thanks, Jeff. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 5:15 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Everybody! > > We have a WLUG meeting on Sept. 15th at 7PM! > > Here are the vitals: > Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232 @7pm > Speaker: William Temple > Topic: Container technologies... > > The speaker for this meeting is William Temple. Here's what he recently > posted to the list (if you didn't already see it) > > Thanks for inviting me to give a talk on containers this Thursday. I'm a > Senior at WPI and spent the last two summers working on container > technologies at Red Hat under the Project Atomic/OpenShift banners. > > If you all are interested, topics for discussion could be: > > - Containers 101: Introduction & Motivations > > - Container Technologies > > -- docker > > -- Open Containers Initiative > > -- LXC, rkt, and others > > - Container Implementation > > -- namespaces > > -- cgroups > > -- security implications, comparison to Virtual Machines > > - Containers in Production (Kubernetes, etc.) > > - Containers in Consumer Environments (Flatpak, Snappy, etc.) > > > If there are any other container-related topics you'd like to hear about, > please just let me know and I can work them in. I'm mostly familiar with > the Docker/OCI & Kubernetes orchestration stack, so I won't be able to go > into technical details about other systems, but can give an overview if > someone else wants to get into the weeds about any other container systems. > > I'd like to thank Logan for getting this organized and for William for > being accomidating of our location and schedule change. > > As always, there will be refreshments and snacks and we'll head to Tech > Pizza afterwards! > > See ya there! > > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Sept. 12, 2016

WLUG Meeting Sept. 15th, 2016 @ 7PM Topic: Docker Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! We have a WLUG meeting on Sept. 15th at 7PM! Here are the vitals: Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232 @7pm Speaker: William Temple Topic: Container technologies... The speaker for this meeting is William Temple. Here's what he recently posted to the list (if you didn't already see it) Thanks for inviting me to give a talk on containers this Thursday. I'm a Senior at WPI and spent the last two summers working on container technologies at Red Hat under the Project Atomic/OpenShift banners. If you all are interested, topics for discussion could be: - Containers 101: Introduction & Motivations - Container Technologies -- docker -- Open Containers Initiative -- LXC, rkt, and others - Container Implementation -- namespaces -- cgroups -- security implications, comparison to Virtual Machines - Containers in Production (Kubernetes, etc.) - Containers in Consumer Environments (Flatpak, Snappy, etc.) If there are any other container-related topics you'd like to hear about, please just let me know and I can work them in. I'm mostly familiar with the Docker/OCI & Kubernetes orchestration stack, so I won't be able to go into technical details about other systems, but can give an overview if someone else wants to get into the weeds about any other container systems. I'd like to thank Logan for getting this organized and for William for being accomidating of our location and schedule change. As always, there will be refreshments and snacks and we'll head to Tech Pizza afterwards! See ya there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 12, 2016

WLUG Meeting Sept. 15th, 2016 @7PM Topic: Docker!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! We have a WLUG meeting on Sept. 15th at 7PM! Here are the vitals: Location: Washburn Labs Rm 232 @7pm Speaker: William Temple Topic: Container technologies... The speaker for this meeting is William Temple. Here's what he recently posted to the list (if you didn't already see it) Thanks for inviting me to give a talk on containers this Thursday. I'm a Senior at WPI and spent the last two summers working on container technologies at Red Hat under the Project Atomic/OpenShift banners. If you all are interested, topics for discussion could be: - Containers 101: Introduction & Motivations - Container Technologies -- docker -- Open Containers Initiative -- LXC, rkt, and others - Container Implementation -- namespaces -- cgroups -- security implications, comparison to Virtual Machines - Containers in Production (Kubernetes, etc.) - Containers in Consumer Environments (Flatpak, Snappy, etc.) If there are any other container-related topics you'd like to hear about, please just let me know and I can work them in. I'm mostly familiar with the Docker/OCI & Kubernetes orchestration stack, so I won't be able to go into technical details about other systems, but can give an overview if someone else wants to get into the weeds about any other container systems. I'd like to thank Logan for getting this organized and for William for being accomidating of our location and schedule change. As always, there will be refreshments and snacks and we'll head to Tech Pizza afterwards! See ya there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 8, 2016

Re: [Wlug] MAJOR PLAN CHANGE!!! Meeting moved to Thursday Sept 15th!!!!

by Keith Wright

reinhart(a)discom.com writes: > Tim, > > Let me know as soon as you determine the time and > location I suspect Friday is the latest that I can > receive the information and still get a message sent > out in time for the meeting. He said it's Thursday Sept 15th!!!! (see Subject:) I assume it 7:00pm, since the whole point of changing the date was because we didn't want to change the time. I thought you must be behind in reading, but now see that the location was not specified. No doubt that will be determined shortly. "Temple, William M" <wmtemple(a)WPI.EDU> writes: > Hello WLUG! > > Thanks for inviting me to give a talk on containers > this Thursday. I'm a Senior at WPI and spent the last > two summers working on container technologies at Red > Hat under the Project Atomic/OpenShift banners. > > > If you all are interested, topics for discussion could be: > > > - Containers 101: Introduction & Motivations Please do that at the very beginning. There seem to be a several WLUG people who know a lot about this, but there are also those of us who first heard of it a few weeks ago. Please don't let it turn into an insider discussion of marketing buzzwords. (1) What goes into a container? (2) What can I now do with a full container that Kernighan and Ritchie couldn't do in 1976 with a Unix process? (3) etc. -- Keith

Sept. 7, 2016

Re: [Wlug] MAJOR PLAN CHANGE!!! Meeting moved to Thursday Sept 15th!!!!

by reinhart＠discom.com

Tim, Let me know as soon as you determine the time and location and I will send a meeting announcement to the IEEE Worcester Section. I suspect Friday is the latest that I can receive the information and still get a message sent out in time for the meeting. Thanks, Al Al Reinhart eMail: Reinhart(a)DisCom.com Phone: (508) 869-6417 On 2016-09-06 16:16, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang, > > WPI's scheduling software decided that 8:30pm was close enough to > 7pm... > > We're going to move the meeting to the 15th, so we can have > a) a better choice of meeting rooms > b) a more acceptable meeting time!! > > The topic is still going to be Docker, only now a week later! > > I'm still confirming with Will, but I figure it's better to get this > out now then wait. > > Sorry for all the confusion. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 7, 2016

Re: [Wlug] MAJOR PLAN CHANGE!!! Meeting moved to Thursday Sept 15th!!!!

by Tim Keller

I've got confirmation from Will that we're a go for the 15th. Thanks, Tim. On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > WPI's scheduling software decided that 8:30pm was close enough to 7pm... > > We're going to move the meeting to the 15th, so we can have > a) a better choice of meeting rooms > b) a more acceptable meeting time!! > > The topic is still going to be Docker, only now a week later! > > I'm still confirming with Will, but I figure it's better to get this out > now then wait. > > Sorry for all the confusion. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 7, 2016

MAJOR PLAN CHANGE!!! Meeting moved to Thursday Sept 15th!!!!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, WPI's scheduling software decided that 8:30pm was close enough to 7pm... We're going to move the meeting to the 15th, so we can have a) a better choice of meeting rooms b) a more acceptable meeting time!! The topic is still going to be Docker, only now a week later! I'm still confirming with Will, but I figure it's better to get this out now then wait. Sorry for all the confusion. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 6, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Meeting THIS thursday (Sept 8th! 2016) Topic: Docker!

by Temple, William M

Hello WLUG! Thanks for inviting me to give a talk on containers this Thursday. I'm a Senior at WPI and spent the last two summers working on container technologies at Red Hat under the Project Atomic/OpenShift banners. If you all are interested, topics for discussion could be: - Containers 101: Introduction & Motivations - Container Technologies -- docker -- Open Containers Initiative -- LXC, rkt, and others - Container Implementation -- namespaces -- cgroups -- security implications, comparison to Virtual Machines - Containers in Production (Kubernetes, etc.) - Containers in Consumer Environments (Flatpak, Snappy, etc.) If there are any other container-related topics you'd like to hear about, please just let me know and I can work them in. I'm mostly familiar with the Docker/OCI & Kubernetes orchestration stack, so I won't be able to go into technical details about other systems, but can give an overview if someone else wants to get into the weeds about any other container systems. Best, ~Will Temple -- William Temple '17 - B.Sc. Computer Science Worcester Polytechnic Institute President, Upsilon Pi Epsilon (Massachusetts Alpha Chapter) Senior Assistant, WPI Computer Science ________________________________ From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org <wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org> on behalf of Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:45:24 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Meeting THIS thursday (Sept 8th! 2016) Topic: Docker! Hey Gang, We have a meeting in TWO days! Thursday Sept. 8th, 2016! Topic: Docker. What is it, why do you want it, what does it do, how can docker help you! Time: 7pm Location: Washburn Labs Room 323 Sorry for the short notice! There IS going to be talk about Docker! Logan's buddy Will, or me or Frank or some combination there in! Refreshments and Snacks will be provided! Note that this is being held in a different meeting place! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 6, 2016

Meeting THIS thursday (Sept 8th! 2016) Topic: Docker!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, We have a meeting in TWO days! Thursday Sept. 8th, 2016! Topic: Docker. What is it, why do you want it, what does it do, how can docker help you! Time: 7pm Location: Washburn Labs Room 323 Sorry for the short notice! There IS going to be talk about Docker! Logan's buddy Will, or me or Frank or some combination there in! Refreshments and Snacks will be provided! Note that this is being held in a different meeting place! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 6, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Meeting this Thu?

by Christopher Thompson

BTW, I see an earlier offer from Logan that his roommate William Temple might give a talk on containers. I'd personally be interested in that, particularly if it gets into LXC or, say, the oft-underlying technology of cgroups. --Chris On 09/05/2016 05:55 PM, Christopher Thompson wrote: > Hi All! > > Been a good while since I've been able to come along, but I have a > possible opportunity to ride along there with a new friend. The meeting > is this Thu, correct? Any particular topics? > > Thanks in advance - looking forward to seeing you all, > Chris > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 5, 2016

Meeting this Thu?

by Christopher Thompson

Hi All! Been a good while since I've been able to come along, but I have a possible opportunity to ride along there with a new friend. The meeting is this Thu, correct? Any particular topics? Thanks in advance - looking forward to seeing you all, Chris

Sept. 5, 2016

Reminder! Meeting tonight! Location: Campus Center Rm 129

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! We've got a WLUG meeting tonight! When: August 18th, 2016 Topic: TBD ?Ansible? / BBQ / PGP Security (in light of Linus key spoof) Location: Campus Center Chairman's room (rm 129) I figure this will be an open topic meeting, I could also talk about ansible if people want. We'll also talk about the BBQ plans, etc. Like always there will be refreshments and we'll head over to Tech Pizza afterwards. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Aug. 18, 2016

Reminder: August WLUG Meeting (Thursday August 18th!)

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, Sorry for the short notice, we've got a meeting Thursday August 18th! Topic: TBD Location: Campus Center Chairman's room (Rm 129) Time: 7pm I figure this will be an open topic meeting, I could also talk about ansible if people want. We'll also talk about the BBQ plans, etc. Like always there will be refreshments and we'll head over to Tech Pizza afterwards. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Aug. 16, 2016

Re: [Wlug] August BBQ

by Tim Keller

I'm hearing a consensus for pushing the BBQ off till Sept. or Oct... Which means we're still going to have a meeting this Thursday! We've got room 129 in the campus center reserved. I'll put out a legitimate announcement. Thanks, Tim. On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Jon "maddog" Hall < jon.maddog.hall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I think a fall BBQ is a good idea. If it is a little cool you can put on > a sweatshirt or sweater. If it is too hot you can only take off so much, > and even less legally. > > md > > On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Eric Martin < > eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm busy the 18th, so I don't have much of an opinion. Granted I think >> one at WPI isn't a bad idea, nor is postponing. >> >> Sent from my Mobile, please excuse my brevity. >> >> On Aug 14, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> No official updates to the WLUG bbq... I'm open to ideas. My house is >> not suited to host a BBQ due to the ugly fact my grill is busted... >> >> One option might be to just postpone it and do an Autumn BBQ when it's >> not 1000 degrees outside. >> Another *crazy* option is if someone has a portable grill, either come to >> my house or check with WPI and have a BBQ on their quad. >> >> Feel free to chime in with your ideas! >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:32 PM, THE HAMMER <hammerron(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Any "official updates" yet as to time and location of WLUG BBQ? >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Aug. 16, 2016

Re: [Wlug] August BBQ

by Jon "maddog" Hall

Hi, I think a fall BBQ is a good idea. If it is a little cool you can put on a sweatshirt or sweater. If it is too hot you can only take off so much, and even less legally. md On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm busy the 18th, so I don't have much of an opinion. Granted I think one > at WPI isn't a bad idea, nor is postponing. > > Sent from my Mobile, please excuse my brevity. > > On Aug 14, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > No official updates to the WLUG bbq... I'm open to ideas. My house is not > suited to host a BBQ due to the ugly fact my grill is busted... > > One option might be to just postpone it and do an Autumn BBQ when it's not > 1000 degrees outside. > Another *crazy* option is if someone has a portable grill, either come to > my house or check with WPI and have a BBQ on their quad. > > Feel free to chime in with your ideas! > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:32 PM, THE HAMMER <hammerron(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Any "official updates" yet as to time and location of WLUG BBQ? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 15, 2016

Re: [Wlug] August BBQ

by Eric Martin

I'm busy the 18th, so I don't have much of an opinion. Granted I think one at WPI isn't a bad idea, nor is postponing. Sent from my Mobile, please excuse my brevity. > On Aug 14, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > No official updates to the WLUG bbq... I'm open to ideas. My house is not suited to host a BBQ due to the ugly fact my grill is busted... > > One option might be to just postpone it and do an Autumn BBQ when it's not 1000 degrees outside. > Another *crazy* option is if someone has a portable grill, either come to my house or check with WPI and have a BBQ on their quad. > > Feel free to chime in with your ideas! > > Thanks, > Tim. > >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:32 PM, THE HAMMER <hammerron(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> Any "official updates" yet as to time and location of WLUG BBQ? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] August BBQ

by Tim Keller

No official updates to the WLUG bbq... I'm open to ideas. My house is not suited to host a BBQ due to the ugly fact my grill is busted... One option might be to just postpone it and do an Autumn BBQ when it's not 1000 degrees outside. Another *crazy* option is if someone has a portable grill, either come to my house or check with WPI and have a BBQ on their quad. Feel free to chime in with your ideas! Thanks, Tim. On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:32 PM, THE HAMMER <hammerron(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Any "official updates" yet as to time and location of WLUG BBQ? > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Aug. 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] A possible future talk

by Eric Martin

I'm volunteering for a PGP Keysigning in October. Sent from my Mobile, please excuse my brevity. > On Aug 5, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm all for booking him for Sept!!! It sounds like a great talk! > > Later, > Tim. > >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:59 PM, thinkbrown(a)gmail.com <thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> My roommate, William Temple has offered to give a talk on application containerization and container orchestration including some comparisons between current platforms (Docker, etc). Obviously we won't be having a talk in August, but would anybody be interested in hearing about this in September? >> >> >> Logan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 6, 2016

August BBQ

by THE HAMMER

Any "official updates" yet as to time and location of WLUG BBQ?

Aug. 5, 2016

Re: [Wlug] A possible future talk

by Tim Keller

I'm all for booking him for Sept!!! It sounds like a great talk! Later, Tim. On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:59 PM, thinkbrown(a)gmail.com <thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > My roommate, William Temple has offered to give a talk on application > containerization and container orchestration including some comparisons > between current platforms (Docker, etc). Obviously we won't be having a > talk in August, but would anybody be interested in hearing about this in > September? > > > Logan > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Aug. 5, 2016

A possible future talk

by thinkbrown＠gmail.com

Hi all, My roommate, William Temple has offered to give a talk on application containerization and container orchestration including some comparisons between current platforms (Docker, etc). Obviously we won't be having a talk in August, but would anybody be interested in hearing about this in September? Logan

Aug. 5, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG bbq aug 18?host?

by thinkbrown＠gmail.com

We could always do it at WPI if nobody is able to host this year. They have grills that can be used for events and such, and I'm willing to do the grilling. On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Doug Mildram <dmildram(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sounds good....although not at my house (I hosted some prior years). > -doug + maureen, peach + timber(dogs) will be bummed. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

July 28, 2016

WLUG bbq aug 18?host?

by Doug Mildram

Sounds good....although not at my house (I hosted some prior years). -doug + maureen, peach + timber(dogs) will be bummed.

July 28, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Linker error: DSO missing from command line

by Andy Stewart

On 07/18/2016 07:41 AM, John Stoffel wrote: >>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Stewart <kb1oiq(a)mval.net> writes: > > Andy> On 07/16/2016 04:48 PM, John Stoffel wrote: >>> > John> So what if you just putt the following into the src/Makefile.am file: >>> > John> AM_LDFLAGS = \ > John> -lm HI John, I just got back from vacation and started work on this again. I think I did exactly what you noted in your instructions (below), and it still is not working for me. Is there any chance you could setup an Ubuntu 16.04 test in a VM to confirm that I'm not insane? >>> >>> > John> I put it after the AM_CPPFLAGS definition up top. Seemed to do what I > John> needed, but I haven't setup an Ubuntu 16.04 test VM yet to confirm. >>> >>> So I spun up a droplet on Digital Oceon running Ubuntu 16.04 and with >>> the above change, and the following steps, I got it to compile.... >>> >>> >>> # apt-get update >>> # apt-get install gcc libhamlib-dev make libgtk-dev libgtkextra-dev libglib2.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev >>> # wget http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/xlog/xlog-2.0.14beta.tar.gz >>> # tar xzf xlog-2.0.14beta.tar.gz >>> # cd xlog-2.0.14beta/ >>> # vi src/Makefile.am >>> >>> - added in AM_LDFLAGS = -lm >>> >>> # ./configure >>> # make >>> The error I am seeing is this one: /usr/bin/ld: gui_gtkprintdialog.o: undefined reference to symbol 'trunc@@GLIBC_2.2.5' /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status Makefile:514: recipe for target 'xlog' failed This makes sense since the trunc function is needed by gui_gtkprintdialog.o. The link command is this one: gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-unused-but-set-variable -Werror -lm -o xlog [many *.o files snipped] logfile/liblogfile.a -lgtk- x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -latk-1.0 -lcairo -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject- 2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lfontconfig -lfreetype -L/usr/local/lib -lhamlib Notice where it put the "-lm". It should be right after -lhamlib but it isn't. When I cut / paste the link command and manually make that modification, the link is successful. I tried a different modification. I took out the AM_LDFLAGS entirely in src/Makefile.am, and then I modified the following line by appending "-lm". This worked(!) for me. xlog_LDADD = logfile/liblogfile.a \ @GTK_LIBS@ @HAMLIB_LIBS@ -lm Can you confirm that this fix also works for you? Thanks!! Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

July 28, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting BBQ? Possible change of date?

by thinkbrown＠gmail.com

Well, unfortunately I live in a tiny college apartment, otherwise I'd be happy to offer. Unfortunately, I'll have to pass. On Jul 27, 2016 22:53, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Okay, the next question is where to host it? > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 7:31 PM, THE HAMMER <hammerron(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> ...the 18th is fine with me also :) >> >> On 07/27/2016 12:20 PM, Tim Keller wrote: >> >> Hey Gang, >> >> So... I'm going to be on vacation for the next meeting... in fact I just >> got back from a different vacation. >> >> I was thinking we should do our BBQ this month... Would people be >> adverse to moving the meeting from the 11th to the 18th? >> >> Let me know. >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing listWlug@mail.wlug.orghttp://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

July 28, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting BBQ? Possible change of date?

by Tim Keller

Okay, the next question is where to host it? On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 7:31 PM, THE HAMMER <hammerron(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > ...the 18th is fine with me also :) > > On 07/27/2016 12:20 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > So... I'm going to be on vacation for the next meeting... in fact I just > got back from a different vacation. > > I was thinking we should do our BBQ this month... Would people be adverse > to moving the meeting from the 11th to the 18th? > > Let me know. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing listWlug@mail.wlug.orghttp://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 28, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting BBQ? Possible change of date?

by THE HAMMER

...the 18th is fine with me also :) On 07/27/2016 12:20 PM, Tim Keller wrote: Hey Gang, So... I'm going to be on vacation for the next meeting... in fact I just got back from a different vacation. I was thinking we should do our BBQ this month... Would people be adverse to moving the meeting from the 11th to the 18th? Let me know. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org<mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 27, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting BBQ? Possible change of date?

by thinkbrown＠gmail.com

The 18th is totally fine by me. -L On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:17 PM, JeffA Maillists <jeffa.maillists(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The 18th works for me. > Jeff > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2016, 12:22 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey Gang, >> >> So... I'm going to be on vacation for the next meeting... in fact I just >> got back from a different vacation. >> >> I was thinking we should do our BBQ this month... Would people be >> adverse to moving the meeting from the 11th to the 18th? >> >> Let me know. >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

July 27, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting BBQ? Possible change of date?

by JeffA Maillists

The 18th works for me. Jeff On Wed, Jul 27, 2016, 12:22 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > So... I'm going to be on vacation for the next meeting... in fact I just > got back from a different vacation. > > I was thinking we should do our BBQ this month... Would people be adverse > to moving the meeting from the 11th to the 18th? > > Let me know. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 27, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting BBQ? Possible change of date?

by Sweetser, Frank E

No conflicts here for me. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org <wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org> on behalf of Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:20:59 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Next Meeting BBQ? Possible change of date? Hey Gang, So... I'm going to be on vacation for the next meeting... in fact I just got back from a different vacation. I was thinking we should do our BBQ this month... Would people be adverse to moving the meeting from the 11th to the 18th? Let me know. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 27, 2016

Next Meeting BBQ? Possible change of date?

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, So... I'm going to be on vacation for the next meeting... in fact I just got back from a different vacation. I was thinking we should do our BBQ this month... Would people be adverse to moving the meeting from the 11th to the 18th? Let me know. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 27, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Linker error: DSO missing from command line

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Stewart <kb1oiq(a)mval.net> writes: Andy> On 07/16/2016 04:48 PM, John Stoffel wrote: >> John> So what if you just putt the following into the src/Makefile.am file: >> John> AM_LDFLAGS = \ John> -lm >> >> John> I put it after the AM_CPPFLAGS definition up top. Seemed to do what I John> needed, but I haven't setup an Ubuntu 16.04 test VM yet to confirm. >> >> So I spun up a droplet on Digital Oceon running Ubuntu 16.04 and with >> the above change, and the following steps, I got it to compile.... >> >> >> # apt-get update >> # apt-get install gcc libhamlib-dev make libgtk-dev libgtkextra-dev libglib2.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev >> # wget http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/xlog/xlog-2.0.14beta.tar.gz >> # tar xzf xlog-2.0.14beta.tar.gz >> # cd xlog-2.0.14beta/ >> # vi src/Makefile.am >> >> - added in AM_LDFLAGS = -lm >> >> # ./configure >> # make >> >> and it did it. I'd like to say I'm really impressed at how there are >> NO compile warnings at all. Nice clean coding! >> >> But if you could get more detailed error messages from those reporting >> problems compiling, that would be a big help as well. >> >> Thanks, >> John Andy> HI John, Andy> When I took over this code base, I attacked the compile Andy> warnings. I recall also passing a switch that says "warnings Andy> are errors", in order to keep the code clean. I like that standard! Andy> Regargind "AM_LDFLAGS -lm", I'd swear I did that and it didn't work for Andy> me, so I tried again. Andy> After adding AM_LDFLAGS to Makefile.am, I assume you ran Andy> automake or perhaps "automake -a". Umm... I think I just did that the first time, then I blew it all away (xlog that is) and re-extracted it, modified the src/Makefile.am file and did the build. Andy> I tried it on my Ubuntu 16.04 and it did not work. It seems Andy> like your solution is the right one. Let me try blowing away my Andy> Ubuntu 16.04 in Virtualbox, in case something was corrupted, and Andy> I'll repeat the steps you listed above on a pristine Ubuntu Andy> 16.04. Post the errors and/or compile log so we can look at this. I don't think you need to blow away your Ubuntu VM at all, just do a fresh from scratch extract and patch of xlog instead.

July 18, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Linker error: DSO missing from command line

by Andy Stewart

On 07/16/2016 04:48 PM, John Stoffel wrote: > > John> So what if you just putt the following into the src/Makefile.am file: > > John> AM_LDFLAGS = \ > John> -lm > > > John> I put it after the AM_CPPFLAGS definition up top. Seemed to do what I > John> needed, but I haven't setup an Ubuntu 16.04 test VM yet to confirm. > > So I spun up a droplet on Digital Oceon running Ubuntu 16.04 and with > the above change, and the following steps, I got it to compile.... > > > # apt-get update > # apt-get install gcc libhamlib-dev make libgtk-dev libgtkextra-dev libglib2.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev > # wget http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/xlog/xlog-2.0.14beta.tar.gz > # tar xzf xlog-2.0.14beta.tar.gz > # cd xlog-2.0.14beta/ > # vi src/Makefile.am > > - added in AM_LDFLAGS = -lm > > # ./configure > # make > > and it did it. I'd like to say I'm really impressed at how there are > NO compile warnings at all. Nice clean coding! > > But if you could get more detailed error messages from those reporting > problems compiling, that would be a big help as well. > > Thanks, > John HI John, When I took over this code base, I attacked the compile warnings. I recall also passing a switch that says "warnings are errors", in order to keep the code clean. Regargind "AM_LDFLAGS -lm", I'd swear I did that and it didn't work for me, so I tried again. After adding AM_LDFLAGS to Makefile.am, I assume you ran automake or perhaps "automake -a". I tried it on my Ubuntu 16.04 and it did not work. It seems like your solution is the right one. Let me try blowing away my Ubuntu 16.04 in Virtualbox, in case something was corrupted, and I'll repeat the steps you listed above on a pristine Ubuntu 16.04. I'll let you know my result. Thanks!! Andy > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

July 17, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Linker error: DSO missing from command line

by John Stoffel

John> So what if you just putt the following into the src/Makefile.am file: John> AM_LDFLAGS = \ John> -lm John> I put it after the AM_CPPFLAGS definition up top. Seemed to do what I John> needed, but I haven't setup an Ubuntu 16.04 test VM yet to confirm. So I spun up a droplet on Digital Oceon running Ubuntu 16.04 and with the above change, and the following steps, I got it to compile.... # apt-get update # apt-get install gcc libhamlib-dev make libgtk-dev libgtkextra-dev libglib2.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev # wget http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/xlog/xlog-2.0.14beta.tar.gz # tar xzf xlog-2.0.14beta.tar.gz # cd xlog-2.0.14beta/ # vi src/Makefile.am - added in AM_LDFLAGS = -lm # ./configure # make and it did it. I'd like to say I'm really impressed at how there are NO compile warnings at all. Nice clean coding! But if you could get more detailed error messages from those reporting problems compiling, that would be a big help as well. Thanks, John

July 16, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Linker error: DSO missing from command line

by John Stoffel

Andy, So what if you just putt the following into the src/Makefile.am file: AM_LDFLAGS = \ -lm I put it after the AM_CPPFLAGS definition up top. Seemed to do what I needed, but I haven't setup an Ubuntu 16.04 test VM yet to confirm. John

July 16, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Linker error: DSO missing from command line

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Stewart <kb1oiq(a)mval.net> writes: Andy> On 07/15/2016 10:44 AM, John Stoffel wrote: >> >> Do you have git repository with this available so I can try playing >> with it at as well? I spent some time on getting autoconf working >> with duc (http://github.com/zevv/duc) so I might be able to help. >> >> John Andy> I don't have a git repository, but one can download the source Andy> tarball: Andy> http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/xlog/xlog-2.0.14beta.tar.gz Ok, I've pulled it down and started to play with it. We'll see how far I get. :-) Busy with a bunch of stuff today and tomorrow, so it might be a few days...

July 16, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Linker error: DSO missing from command line

by Andy Stewart

On 07/15/2016 10:44 AM, John Stoffel wrote: > > Do you have git repository with this available so I can try playing > with it at as well? I spent some time on getting autoconf working > with duc (http://github.com/zevv/duc) so I might be able to help. > > John Hi John, I don't have a git repository, but one can download the source tarball: http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/xlog/xlog-2.0.14beta.tar.gz Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

July 15, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Linker error: DSO missing from command line

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Stewart <kb1oiq(a)mval.net> writes: Andy> I have received a few reports indicating that xlog will not Andy> compile without error from the source tarball. Since I'm the Andy> xlog maintainer, I get to fix it, but so far, I've been Andy> unsuccessful. Andy> The error looks like this, and I've easily reproduced it on Ubuntu 16.04 Andy> LTS: Andy> /usr/bin/ld: gui_gtkprintdialog.o: undefined reference to symbol Andy> 'trunc@@GLIBC_2.2.5' Andy> //lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6: error adding symbols: DSO missing from Andy> command line Andy> I've traced this to recently modified behavior of gcc, where all Andy> libraries needed to properly link the executable must be Andy> included on the command line. In this case, "-lm" is not Andy> explicitly on the command line, and thus the error. Interesting. Have you been running 'autoreconf -force' after each time you make a change, esp in the .ac and .am files? I've found that sometimes it doesn't quite do what I expect. Andy> I have succeeded in making it work in this way, but it is just a workaround: Andy> ./configure LIBS="-lm" Andy> make Andy> make install Andy> It seems that automake 1.15 is needed to help get around this issue, and Andy> that version is part of Ubuntu 16.04. Andy> However, I'm stuck, trying to figure out the "right way" to fix this. Andy> I've googled for a couple of hours, trying to figure out what needs to Andy> go into configure.ac and/or Makefile.am, to no avail. Andy> I tried this in configure.ac: LT_LIB_M Andy> (nope) Andy> I tried this in Makefile.am: LIBS=-lm Andy> (nope) Andy> I also tried this in Makefile.am: LDFLAGS = -lm Andy> (nope) Andy> In each case, I reran autoconf, automake, and then ./configure, but the Andy> linker error persists. Andy> I must be missing something easy. Any helpful hints would surely be Andy> appreciated. Do you have git repository with this available so I can try playing with it at as well? I spent some time on getting autoconf working with duc (http://github.com/zevv/duc) so I might be able to help. John

July 15, 2016

HT Receiver

by Gary Hanley

Hello folks, I hope I'm not breaking protocol for posting this but I'm replacing my home theater receiver and looking to sell my current unit so I thought I would offer it here. I think it's a good deal for anyone who doesn't need the very latest HT specs. I bought it new for $1100 when it was first made available about three years plus ago and it works as good as the day it was purchased. It's a Yamaha RX-A1020 and the product page can be found here: http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/aventage/rx-a1020_black_u/ As I type this there are new models on eBay for $699 and a used model for $550. I'm asking $500. The unit is still attached to my HT system so I can demo it for anyone who might be interested. Thanks everyone.

July 15, 2016

Linker error: DSO missing from command line

by Andy Stewart

Hi Everybody, I have received a few reports indicating that xlog will not compile without error from the source tarball. Since I'm the xlog maintainer, I get to fix it, but so far, I've been unsuccessful. The error looks like this, and I've easily reproduced it on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS: /usr/bin/ld: gui_gtkprintdialog.o: undefined reference to symbol 'trunc@@GLIBC_2.2.5' //lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line I've traced this to recently modified behavior of gcc, where all libraries needed to properly link the executable must be included on the command line. In this case, "-lm" is not explicitly on the command line, and thus the error. I have succeeded in making it work in this way, but it is just a workaround: ./configure LIBS="-lm" make make install It seems that automake 1.15 is needed to help get around this issue, and that version is part of Ubuntu 16.04. However, I'm stuck, trying to figure out the "right way" to fix this. I've googled for a couple of hours, trying to figure out what needs to go into configure.ac and/or Makefile.am, to no avail. I tried this in configure.ac: LT_LIB_M (nope) I tried this in Makefile.am: LIBS=-lm (nope) I also tried this in Makefile.am: LDFLAGS = -lm (nope) In each case, I reran autoconf, automake, and then ./configure, but the linker error persists. I must be missing something easy. Any helpful hints would surely be appreciated. Thanks, and 73, Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

July 15, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting July 14th, 2016. Topic: SCM with Git and Gitlab!

by Tim Keller

Yup! Back in the round room of slider rule doom! On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > Hey Everybody! > > > > This is a reminder we've got a WLUG meeting on July 14th! > > And this is another, I'll be leaving here soon. > > > > When: July 14th, 2016 @ 7pm > > Where: WPI Mid Century room rm 331 > > I'm assuming this is back in the second floor > of the Student Center, I forget the official > name. > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting July 14th, 2016. Topic: SCM with Git and Gitlab!

by Keith Wright

Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > Hey Everybody! > > This is a reminder we've got a WLUG meeting on July 14th! And this is another, I'll be leaving here soon. > > When: July 14th, 2016 @ 7pm > Where: WPI Mid Century room rm 331 I'm assuming this is back in the second floor of the Student Center, I forget the official name. -- Keith

July 14, 2016

Reminder: Meeting July 14th, 2016. Topic: SCM with Git and Gitlab!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! This is a reminder we've got a WLUG meeting on July 14th! I'm going to be doing a presentation and demo detailing Source Control Management (SCM) using git and the git collaboration software "gitlab". Topic: SCM with git and gitlab When: July 14th, 2016 @ 7pm Where: WPI Mid Century room rm 331 Who: Tim Keller Here's a funny XKCD regarding git... https://xkcd.com/1597/ Snacks and refreshments will be provided and afterwards we'll head off to Tech Pizza to continue the conversation. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 10, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Topic ideas for next meeting...

by Eric Martin

I'm game On Sunday, June 19, 2016, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Would people be interested in my talking about GitLab? It's basically > your own personal Github. > > I could also dove tail this into a general talk about Git / Source > Control, etc. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile

June 21, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Topic ideas for next meeting...

by Frank Sweetser

Sounds like a great idea! We've been getting more into it for some group projects here over the last few months, and would love to hear more about it. Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 06/19/2016 07:43 AM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Would people be interested in my talking about GitLab? It's basically your > own personal Github. > > I could also dove tail this into a general talk about Git / Source Control, etc. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

June 20, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Topic ideas for next meeting...

by Keith Wright

Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > Would people be interested in my talking about GitLab? At first I thought that this was a message on the other mailing list, because the Guile-Scheme mailing list has broken into discussion of Gitorious, Github, etc. > It's basically your own personal Github. Great, I can collaborate with myself, and not bother other people with my half-baked ideas! > I could also dove tail this into a general talk about > Git / Source Control, etc. Sounds good to me. Is GitLab the same as git itself? I don't know much about this, but might be able to keep my mouth shut long enough to learn. In other words, if you do a presentation, then Yes, I'll listen, but if you lead a discussion, then you lead from before. -- Keith

June 20, 2016

Topic ideas for next meeting...

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Would people be interested in my talking about GitLab? It's basically your own personal Github. I could also dove tail this into a general talk about Git / Source Control, etc. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

June 19, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Pizza and snacks...

by Tim Keller

Awesome!!! Thanks Robert! On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Robert Schwein <robert.athol.mass(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The IEEE has put this meeting information out to it's members. There may > be a boat-load of people there tonight. > > Bob > > On 6/9/2016 1:17 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > > Hey, > > Jon has to bug out early tonight. My plan is to bring a pizza for John > and his buddy as well as bring along some snacks for us and we'll go out > afterwards. > > If the crowd is large enough we might have to change venues, but I figure > we'll roll with it. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing listWlug@mail.wlug.orghttp://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

June 9, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Pizza and snacks...

by Robert Schwein

The IEEE has put this meeting information out to it's members. There may be a boat-load of people there tonight. Bob On 6/9/2016 1:17 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey, > > Jon has to bug out early tonight. My plan is to bring a pizza for > John and his buddy as well as bring along some snacks for us and we'll > go out afterwards. > > If the crowd is large enough we might have to change venues, but I > figure we'll roll with it. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 9, 2016

Pizza and snacks...

by Tim Keller

Hey, Jon has to bug out early tonight. My plan is to bring a pizza for John and his buddy as well as bring along some snacks for us and we'll go out afterwards. If the crowd is large enough we might have to change venues, but I figure we'll roll with it. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

June 9, 2016

Reminder!!!! Next Meeting: June 9th @ 7pm! Speaker: Jon "maddog" Hall!!!!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Jon "Maddog" Hall is going to be speaking at the upcoming meeting! Here's the details: Date & Time: June 9th, 2016 @ 7pm Location: WPI Atwater-kent Rm 232 Topic: Back from the Dead: Projects that maddog is working on, and why you should care Abstract: Only a month after a massive heart attack maddog will be talking about some of the projects he is working on: (1) Rebooting the Linux Professional Institute (and why you should care) (2) Selling small computers in Brazil (and why you should care) (3) Creating jobs for the jobless and help for the clueless (and why you should care) NOTE: John has informed me he needs to head off right after the meeting... So I'm going to arrange to have some pizza delivered! I expect that after the meeting we're going to head off to wooberry or elsewhere for dessert. Who is Jon "Maddog" Hall? Jon "maddog" Hall is the Chairman of the Board of the Linux Professional Institute, and the President of Linux International. Since 1969, Mr. Hall has been a programmer, systems designer, systems administrator, product manager, technical marketing manager, author and educator. He currently works as an independent consultant, and is involved with bringing environmentally friendly computing to emerging marketplaces as well as working on performance and educational issues with Free and Open Source Software via the Linaro Association. He is also closely aligned with LeMaker, a design center located in Shengen, China. While not a founding member of LPI, maddog helped formulate some of the concepts and donated personal money to allow the first 200 tests be tested for psychometrics. Mr. Hall has worked for such companies as Western Electric Corporation, Aetna Life and Casualty, Bell Laboratories, Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), VA Linux Systems, SGI, Futura Networks (Campus Party) and Linaro. Mr. Hall has taught at Hartford State Technical College (HSTC), Merrimack College and Daniel Webster College. While at HSTC his students gave him the nickname of "maddog", and he developed the skills necessary for talking to university students over pizza and beer. Mr Hall has worked on many different operating systems (MFT, MVT, VS1, VS2, MVS, CP-67, VM/CMS, RSTS/E, RSX-11M, CP/M) but concentrated on Unix systems since 1980 and Linux systems since 1994, when he first met Linus Torvalds and correctly recognized the commercial importance of Linux and Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall obtained a DEC "Alpha" system for Linus Torvalds and organized and engineering team which helped the Linux community to port Linux to the world's fastest 64-bit microcomputer. Since 2006 Mr. Hall has been working on Project Cauā, which will large numbers of high-tech jobs allowing students who could not afford to attend university to both attend university and get real-life job experience. Mr. Hall is the author of numerous magazine and newspaper articles, many presentations and one book, "Linux for Dummies". He currently writes a blog for Linux Pro Magazine. Mr. Hall has consulted with the governments of China, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia and Brasil as well as the United Nations and many local and state governments on the use of Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall serves on the boards of several companies, and several non-profit organizations. He is currently very active with the University of Sao Paulo's Centro Interdisciplinar Em Tecnologias Interativas (CITI), acting as a member of their advisory board. Mr. Hall has traveled to over 100 countries, many more than one time, speaking on the benefits of Open Source Software having received his BS in Commerce and Engineering from Drexel University (1973), and his MSCS from RPI in Troy, New York (1977). In his spare time maddog is working on his retirement project: maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

June 8, 2016

Re: [Wlug] [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall!

by Jon "maddog" Hall

All, >I mean, WPI is a wet campus, so as long as all parties are of legal age it shouldn't be a problem. OK, we can play it by ear... I will bring along a "wee taste" for people, and because of that I will add one more item to the agenda of things I am working on: "maddog's monastery and marina of math, music. micro-computing, micro-brewery. micro-winery, micro-distillery and bait shop" md On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 3:31 PM, thinkbrown(a)gmail.com <thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I mean, WPI is a wet campus, so as long as all parties are of legal age it > shouldn't be a problem. > On Jun 1, 2016 13:00, "Mike Peckar" <fog(a)fognet.com> wrote: > > Hmmm. Maybe not in WPI donated meeting space? Chuck? > > > > Perhaps the post-meeting pizza & beer could be switched to a BYOB venue? > West Side Steak & BBQ is BYOB, but a little far to walk from campus. > > > > Mike > > *From:* wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] *On > Behalf Of *Jon "maddog" Hall > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2016 7:44 PM > > *To:* Worcester Linux Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Wlug] [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: Next Meeting: June 9th > 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall! > > > > Would the Tequilla be ok to bring to the meeting? > > md > > > > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Mike Peckar <fog(a)fognet.com> wrote: > > >maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, > micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. > > > > So Maddog, feel free to bring along some tequila from your micro > distillery, but if you do, please make sure to toss in a few worms from the > bait shop. :-) > > > > *From:* wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] *On > Behalf Of *Tim Keller > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2016 5:01 PM > *To:* Worcester Linux Users Group > *Subject:* [Wlug] Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall! > > > > Hey Gang, > > > > Jon "Maddog" Hall is going to be speaking at the upcoming meeting! > > > > Here's the details: > > Date & Time: June 9th, 2016 @ 7pm > > Location: WPI Atwater-kent Rm 232 > > Topic: Back from the Dead: Projects that maddog is working on, and why > you should care > > Abstract: Only a month after a massive heart attack maddog will be talking > about some of the projects he is working on: > > (1) Rebooting the Linux Professional Institute (and why you should care) > > (2) Selling small computers in Brazil (and why you should care) > > (3) Creating jobs for the jobless and help for the clueless (and why you > should care) > > > > > > Who is Jon "Maddog" Hall? > > > > Jon "maddog" Hall is the Chairman of the Board of the Linux Professional > Institute, and the President of Linux International. Since 1969, Mr. Hall > has been a programmer, systems designer, systems administrator, product > manager, technical marketing manager, author and educator. > > He currently works as an independent consultant, and is involved with > bringing environmentally friendly computing to emerging marketplaces as > well as working on performance and educational issues with Free and Open > Source Software via the Linaro Association. He is also closely aligned > with LeMaker, a design center located in Shengen, China. > > While not a founding member of LPI, maddog helped formulate some of the > concepts and donated personal money to allow the first 200 tests be tested > for psychometrics. > > Mr. Hall has worked for such companies as Western Electric Corporation, > Aetna Life and Casualty, Bell Laboratories, Digital Equipment Corporation > (DEC), VA Linux Systems, SGI, Futura Networks (Campus Party) and Linaro. > Mr. Hall has taught at Hartford State Technical College (HSTC), Merrimack > College and Daniel Webster College. While at HSTC his students gave him > the nickname of "maddog", and he developed the skills necessary for talking > to university students over pizza and beer. > > Mr Hall has worked on many different operating systems (MFT, MVT, VS1, > VS2, MVS, CP-67, VM/CMS, RSTS/E, RSX-11M, CP/M) but concentrated on Unix > systems since 1980 and Linux systems since 1994, when he first met Linus > Torvalds and correctly recognized the commercial importance of Linux and > Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall obtained a DEC "Alpha" system for > Linus Torvalds and organized and engineering team which helped the Linux > community to port Linux to the world's fastest 64-bit microcomputer. > > Since 2006 Mr. Hall has been working on Project Cauā, which will large > numbers of high-tech jobs allowing students who could not afford to attend > university to both attend university and get real-life job experience. > > Mr. Hall is the author of numerous magazine and newspaper articles, many > presentations and one book, "Linux for Dummies". He currently writes a > blog for Linux Pro Magazine. > > Mr. Hall has consulted with the governments of China, Malaysia, Saudi > Arabia and Brasil as well as the United Nations and many local and state > governments on the use of Free and Open Source Software. > > Mr. Hall serves on the boards of several companies, and several non-profit > organizations. He is currently very active with the University of Sao > Paulo's Centro Interdisciplinar Em Tecnologias Interativas (CITI), acting > as a member of their advisory board. > > Mr. Hall has traveled to over 100 countries, many more than one time, > speaking on the benefits of Open Source Software having received his BS in > Commerce and Engineering from Drexel University (1973), and his MSCS from > RPI in Troy, New York (1977). > > In his spare time maddog is working on his retirement project: > > maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, > micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

June 1, 2016

Re: [Wlug] [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall!

by thinkbrown＠gmail.com

I mean, WPI is a wet campus, so as long as all parties are of legal age it shouldn't be a problem. On Jun 1, 2016 13:00, "Mike Peckar" <fog(a)fognet.com> wrote: Hmmm. Maybe not in WPI donated meeting space? Chuck? Perhaps the post-meeting pizza & beer could be switched to a BYOB venue? West Side Steak & BBQ is BYOB, but a little far to walk from campus. Mike *From:* wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] *On Behalf Of *Jon "maddog" Hall *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2016 7:44 PM *To:* Worcester Linux Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Wlug] [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall! Would the Tequilla be ok to bring to the meeting? md On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Mike Peckar <fog(a)fognet.com> wrote: >maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. So Maddog, feel free to bring along some tequila from your micro distillery, but if you do, please make sure to toss in a few worms from the bait shop. :-) *From:* wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] *On Behalf Of *Tim Keller *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2016 5:01 PM *To:* Worcester Linux Users Group *Subject:* [Wlug] Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall! Hey Gang, Jon "Maddog" Hall is going to be speaking at the upcoming meeting! Here's the details: Date & Time: June 9th, 2016 @ 7pm Location: WPI Atwater-kent Rm 232 Topic: Back from the Dead: Projects that maddog is working on, and why you should care Abstract: Only a month after a massive heart attack maddog will be talking about some of the projects he is working on: (1) Rebooting the Linux Professional Institute (and why you should care) (2) Selling small computers in Brazil (and why you should care) (3) Creating jobs for the jobless and help for the clueless (and why you should care) Who is Jon "Maddog" Hall? Jon "maddog" Hall is the Chairman of the Board of the Linux Professional Institute, and the President of Linux International. Since 1969, Mr. Hall has been a programmer, systems designer, systems administrator, product manager, technical marketing manager, author and educator. He currently works as an independent consultant, and is involved with bringing environmentally friendly computing to emerging marketplaces as well as working on performance and educational issues with Free and Open Source Software via the Linaro Association. He is also closely aligned with LeMaker, a design center located in Shengen, China. While not a founding member of LPI, maddog helped formulate some of the concepts and donated personal money to allow the first 200 tests be tested for psychometrics. Mr. Hall has worked for such companies as Western Electric Corporation, Aetna Life and Casualty, Bell Laboratories, Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), VA Linux Systems, SGI, Futura Networks (Campus Party) and Linaro. Mr. Hall has taught at Hartford State Technical College (HSTC), Merrimack College and Daniel Webster College. While at HSTC his students gave him the nickname of "maddog", and he developed the skills necessary for talking to university students over pizza and beer. Mr Hall has worked on many different operating systems (MFT, MVT, VS1, VS2, MVS, CP-67, VM/CMS, RSTS/E, RSX-11M, CP/M) but concentrated on Unix systems since 1980 and Linux systems since 1994, when he first met Linus Torvalds and correctly recognized the commercial importance of Linux and Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall obtained a DEC "Alpha" system for Linus Torvalds and organized and engineering team which helped the Linux community to port Linux to the world's fastest 64-bit microcomputer. Since 2006 Mr. Hall has been working on Project Cauā, which will large numbers of high-tech jobs allowing students who could not afford to attend university to both attend university and get real-life job experience. Mr. Hall is the author of numerous magazine and newspaper articles, many presentations and one book, "Linux for Dummies". He currently writes a blog for Linux Pro Magazine. Mr. Hall has consulted with the governments of China, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia and Brasil as well as the United Nations and many local and state governments on the use of Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall serves on the boards of several companies, and several non-profit organizations. He is currently very active with the University of Sao Paulo's Centro Interdisciplinar Em Tecnologias Interativas (CITI), acting as a member of their advisory board. Mr. Hall has traveled to over 100 countries, many more than one time, speaking on the benefits of Open Source Software having received his BS in Commerce and Engineering from Drexel University (1973), and his MSCS from RPI in Troy, New York (1977). In his spare time maddog is working on his retirement project: maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 1, 2016

Re: [Wlug] [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall!

by Tim Keller

I'm game! While I don't mind helping to keep Paul at Tech Pizza in business, the truth is, if we have a decent turn out, we'll end up swamping the place. Tim. On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Mike Peckar <fog(a)fognet.com> wrote: > Hmmm. Maybe not in WPI donated meeting space? Chuck? > > > > Perhaps the post-meeting pizza & beer could be switched to a BYOB venue? > West Side Steak & BBQ is BYOB, but a little far to walk from campus. > > > > Mike > > *From:* wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] *On > Behalf Of *Jon "maddog" Hall > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2016 7:44 PM > *To:* Worcester Linux Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Wlug] [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: Next Meeting: June 9th > 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall! > > > > Would the Tequilla be ok to bring to the meeting? > > md > > > > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Mike Peckar <fog(a)fognet.com> wrote: > > >maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, > micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. > > > > So Maddog, feel free to bring along some tequila from your micro > distillery, but if you do, please make sure to toss in a few worms from the > bait shop. :-) > > > > *From:* wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] *On > Behalf Of *Tim Keller > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2016 5:01 PM > *To:* Worcester Linux Users Group > *Subject:* [Wlug] Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall! > > > > Hey Gang, > > > > Jon "Maddog" Hall is going to be speaking at the upcoming meeting! > > > > Here's the details: > > Date & Time: June 9th, 2016 @ 7pm > > Location: WPI Atwater-kent Rm 232 > > Topic: Back from the Dead: Projects that maddog is working on, and why > you should care > > Abstract: Only a month after a massive heart attack maddog will be talking > about some of the projects he is working on: > > (1) Rebooting the Linux Professional Institute (and why you should care) > > (2) Selling small computers in Brazil (and why you should care) > > (3) Creating jobs for the jobless and help for the clueless (and why you > should care) > > > > > > Who is Jon "Maddog" Hall? > > > > Jon "maddog" Hall is the Chairman of the Board of the Linux Professional > Institute, and the President of Linux International. Since 1969, Mr. Hall > has been a programmer, systems designer, systems administrator, product > manager, technical marketing manager, author and educator. > > He currently works as an independent consultant, and is involved with > bringing environmentally friendly computing to emerging marketplaces as > well as working on performance and educational issues with Free and Open > Source Software via the Linaro Association. He is also closely aligned > with LeMaker, a design center located in Shengen, China. > > While not a founding member of LPI, maddog helped formulate some of the > concepts and donated personal money to allow the first 200 tests be tested > for psychometrics. > > Mr. Hall has worked for such companies as Western Electric Corporation, > Aetna Life and Casualty, Bell Laboratories, Digital Equipment Corporation > (DEC), VA Linux Systems, SGI, Futura Networks (Campus Party) and Linaro. > Mr. Hall has taught at Hartford State Technical College (HSTC), Merrimack > College and Daniel Webster College. While at HSTC his students gave him > the nickname of "maddog", and he developed the skills necessary for talking > to university students over pizza and beer. > > Mr Hall has worked on many different operating systems (MFT, MVT, VS1, > VS2, MVS, CP-67, VM/CMS, RSTS/E, RSX-11M, CP/M) but concentrated on Unix > systems since 1980 and Linux systems since 1994, when he first met Linus > Torvalds and correctly recognized the commercial importance of Linux and > Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall obtained a DEC "Alpha" system for > Linus Torvalds and organized and engineering team which helped the Linux > community to port Linux to the world's fastest 64-bit microcomputer. > > Since 2006 Mr. Hall has been working on Project Cauā, which will large > numbers of high-tech jobs allowing students who could not afford to attend > university to both attend university and get real-life job experience. > > Mr. Hall is the author of numerous magazine and newspaper articles, many > presentations and one book, "Linux for Dummies". He currently writes a > blog for Linux Pro Magazine. > > Mr. Hall has consulted with the governments of China, Malaysia, Saudi > Arabia and Brasil as well as the United Nations and many local and state > governments on the use of Free and Open Source Software. > > Mr. Hall serves on the boards of several companies, and several non-profit > organizations. He is currently very active with the University of Sao > Paulo's Centro Interdisciplinar Em Tecnologias Interativas (CITI), acting > as a member of their advisory board. > > Mr. Hall has traveled to over 100 countries, many more than one time, > speaking on the benefits of Open Source Software having received his BS in > Commerce and Engineering from Drexel University (1973), and his MSCS from > RPI in Troy, New York (1977). > > In his spare time maddog is working on his retirement project: > > maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, > micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

June 1, 2016

Re: [Wlug] [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall!

by Jon "maddog" Hall

It would have to be BYOB. I have already been thrown out of one bar by letting someone have "a wee taste" of good scotch from a pocket flask I was carrying. The owner had no sense of humor. Of course he lost a customer for life. md On Wed, Jun 1, 2016, 13:00 Mike Peckar <fog(a)fognet.com> wrote: > Hmmm. Maybe not in WPI donated meeting space? Chuck? > > > > Perhaps the post-meeting pizza & beer could be switched to a BYOB venue? > West Side Steak & BBQ is BYOB, but a little far to walk from campus. > > > > Mike > > *From:* wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] *On > Behalf Of *Jon "maddog" Hall > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2016 7:44 PM > > > *To:* Worcester Linux Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [Wlug] [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: Next Meeting: June 9th > 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall! > > > > Would the Tequilla be ok to bring to the meeting? > > md > > > > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Mike Peckar <fog(a)fognet.com> wrote: > > >maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, > micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. > > > > So Maddog, feel free to bring along some tequila from your micro > distillery, but if you do, please make sure to toss in a few worms from the > bait shop. :-) > > > > *From:* wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] *On > Behalf Of *Tim Keller > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2016 5:01 PM > *To:* Worcester Linux Users Group > *Subject:* [Wlug] Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall! > > > > Hey Gang, > > > > Jon "Maddog" Hall is going to be speaking at the upcoming meeting! > > > > Here's the details: > > Date & Time: June 9th, 2016 @ 7pm > > Location: WPI Atwater-kent Rm 232 > > Topic: Back from the Dead: Projects that maddog is working on, and why > you should care > > Abstract: Only a month after a massive heart attack maddog will be talking > about some of the projects he is working on: > > (1) Rebooting the Linux Professional Institute (and why you should care) > > (2) Selling small computers in Brazil (and why you should care) > > (3) Creating jobs for the jobless and help for the clueless (and why you > should care) > > > > > > Who is Jon "Maddog" Hall? > > > > Jon "maddog" Hall is the Chairman of the Board of the Linux Professional > Institute, and the President of Linux International. Since 1969, Mr. Hall > has been a programmer, systems designer, systems administrator, product > manager, technical marketing manager, author and educator. > > He currently works as an independent consultant, and is involved with > bringing environmentally friendly computing to emerging marketplaces as > well as working on performance and educational issues with Free and Open > Source Software via the Linaro Association. He is also closely aligned > with LeMaker, a design center located in Shengen, China. > > While not a founding member of LPI, maddog helped formulate some of the > concepts and donated personal money to allow the first 200 tests be tested > for psychometrics. > > Mr. Hall has worked for such companies as Western Electric Corporation, > Aetna Life and Casualty, Bell Laboratories, Digital Equipment Corporation > (DEC), VA Linux Systems, SGI, Futura Networks (Campus Party) and Linaro. > Mr. Hall has taught at Hartford State Technical College (HSTC), Merrimack > College and Daniel Webster College. While at HSTC his students gave him > the nickname of "maddog", and he developed the skills necessary for talking > to university students over pizza and beer. > > Mr Hall has worked on many different operating systems (MFT, MVT, VS1, > VS2, MVS, CP-67, VM/CMS, RSTS/E, RSX-11M, CP/M) but concentrated on Unix > systems since 1980 and Linux systems since 1994, when he first met Linus > Torvalds and correctly recognized the commercial importance of Linux and > Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall obtained a DEC "Alpha" system for > Linus Torvalds and organized and engineering team which helped the Linux > community to port Linux to the world's fastest 64-bit microcomputer. > > Since 2006 Mr. Hall has been working on Project Cauā, which will large > numbers of high-tech jobs allowing students who could not afford to attend > university to both attend university and get real-life job experience. > > Mr. Hall is the author of numerous magazine and newspaper articles, many > presentations and one book, "Linux for Dummies". He currently writes a > blog for Linux Pro Magazine. > > Mr. Hall has consulted with the governments of China, Malaysia, Saudi > Arabia and Brasil as well as the United Nations and many local and state > governments on the use of Free and Open Source Software. > > Mr. Hall serves on the boards of several companies, and several non-profit > organizations. He is currently very active with the University of Sao > Paulo's Centro Interdisciplinar Em Tecnologias Interativas (CITI), acting > as a member of their advisory board. > > Mr. Hall has traveled to over 100 countries, many more than one time, > speaking on the benefits of Open Source Software having received his BS in > Commerce and Engineering from Drexel University (1973), and his MSCS from > RPI in Troy, New York (1977). > > In his spare time maddog is working on his retirement project: > > maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, > micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

June 1, 2016

[SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall!

by Mike Peckar

Hmmm. Maybe not in WPI donated meeting space? Chuck? Perhaps the post-meeting pizza & beer could be switched to a BYOB venue? West Side Steak & BBQ is BYOB, but a little far to walk from campus. Mike From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Jon "maddog" Hall Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 7:44 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall! Would the Tequilla be ok to bring to the meeting? md On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Mike Peckar <fog(a)fognet.com> wrote: >maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. So Maddog, feel free to bring along some tequila from your micro distillery, but if you do, please make sure to toss in a few worms from the bait shop. :-) From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Tim Keller Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 5:01 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall! Hey Gang, Jon "Maddog" Hall is going to be speaking at the upcoming meeting! Here's the details: Date & Time: June 9th, 2016 @ 7pm Location: WPI Atwater-kent Rm 232 Topic: Back from the Dead: Projects that maddog is working on, and why you should care Abstract: Only a month after a massive heart attack maddog will be talking about some of the projects he is working on: (1) Rebooting the Linux Professional Institute (and why you should care) (2) Selling small computers in Brazil (and why you should care) (3) Creating jobs for the jobless and help for the clueless (and why you should care) Who is Jon "Maddog" Hall? Jon "maddog" Hall is the Chairman of the Board of the Linux Professional Institute, and the President of Linux International. Since 1969, Mr. Hall has been a programmer, systems designer, systems administrator, product manager, technical marketing manager, author and educator. He currently works as an independent consultant, and is involved with bringing environmentally friendly computing to emerging marketplaces as well as working on performance and educational issues with Free and Open Source Software via the Linaro Association. He is also closely aligned with LeMaker, a design center located in Shengen, China. While not a founding member of LPI, maddog helped formulate some of the concepts and donated personal money to allow the first 200 tests be tested for psychometrics. Mr. Hall has worked for such companies as Western Electric Corporation, Aetna Life and Casualty, Bell Laboratories, Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), VA Linux Systems, SGI, Futura Networks (Campus Party) and Linaro. Mr. Hall has taught at Hartford State Technical College (HSTC), Merrimack College and Daniel Webster College. While at HSTC his students gave him the nickname of "maddog", and he developed the skills necessary for talking to university students over pizza and beer. Mr Hall has worked on many different operating systems (MFT, MVT, VS1, VS2, MVS, CP-67, VM/CMS, RSTS/E, RSX-11M, CP/M) but concentrated on Unix systems since 1980 and Linux systems since 1994, when he first met Linus Torvalds and correctly recognized the commercial importance of Linux and Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall obtained a DEC "Alpha" system for Linus Torvalds and organized and engineering team which helped the Linux community to port Linux to the world's fastest 64-bit microcomputer. Since 2006 Mr. Hall has been working on Project Cauā, which will large numbers of high-tech jobs allowing students who could not afford to attend university to both attend university and get real-life job experience. Mr. Hall is the author of numerous magazine and newspaper articles, many presentations and one book, "Linux for Dummies". He currently writes a blog for Linux Pro Magazine. Mr. Hall has consulted with the governments of China, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia and Brasil as well as the United Nations and many local and state governments on the use of Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall serves on the boards of several companies, and several non-profit organizations. He is currently very active with the University of Sao Paulo's Centro Interdisciplinar Em Tecnologias Interativas (CITI), acting as a member of their advisory board. Mr. Hall has traveled to over 100 countries, many more than one time, speaking on the benefits of Open Source Software having received his BS in Commerce and Engineering from Drexel University (1973), and his MSCS from RPI in Troy, New York (1977). In his spare time maddog is working on his retirement project: maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 1, 2016

Re: [Wlug] [SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall!

by Jon "maddog" Hall

Would the Tequilla be ok to bring to the meeting? md On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Mike Peckar <fog(a)fognet.com> wrote: > >maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, > micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. > > > > So Maddog, feel free to bring along some tequila from your micro > distillery, but if you do, please make sure to toss in a few worms from the > bait shop. :-) > > > > *From:* wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] *On > Behalf Of *Tim Keller > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2016 5:01 PM > *To:* Worcester Linux Users Group > *Subject:* [Wlug] Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall! > > > > Hey Gang, > > > > Jon "Maddog" Hall is going to be speaking at the upcoming meeting! > > > > Here's the details: > > Date & Time: June 9th, 2016 @ 7pm > > Location: WPI Atwater-kent Rm 232 > > Topic: Back from the Dead: Projects that maddog is working on, and why > you should care > > Abstract: Only a month after a massive heart attack maddog will be talking > about some of the projects he is working on: > > (1) Rebooting the Linux Professional Institute (and why you should care) > > (2) Selling small computers in Brazil (and why you should care) > > (3) Creating jobs for the jobless and help for the clueless (and why you > should care) > > > > > > Who is Jon "Maddog" Hall? > > > > Jon "maddog" Hall is the Chairman of the Board of the Linux Professional > Institute, and the President of Linux International. Since 1969, Mr. Hall > has been a programmer, systems designer, systems administrator, product > manager, technical marketing manager, author and educator. > > He currently works as an independent consultant, and is involved with > bringing environmentally friendly computing to emerging marketplaces as > well as working on performance and educational issues with Free and Open > Source Software via the Linaro Association. He is also closely aligned > with LeMaker, a design center located in Shengen, China. > > While not a founding member of LPI, maddog helped formulate some of the > concepts and donated personal money to allow the first 200 tests be tested > for psychometrics. > > Mr. Hall has worked for such companies as Western Electric Corporation, > Aetna Life and Casualty, Bell Laboratories, Digital Equipment Corporation > (DEC), VA Linux Systems, SGI, Futura Networks (Campus Party) and Linaro. > Mr. Hall has taught at Hartford State Technical College (HSTC), Merrimack > College and Daniel Webster College. While at HSTC his students gave him > the nickname of "maddog", and he developed the skills necessary for talking > to university students over pizza and beer. > > Mr Hall has worked on many different operating systems (MFT, MVT, VS1, > VS2, MVS, CP-67, VM/CMS, RSTS/E, RSX-11M, CP/M) but concentrated on Unix > systems since 1980 and Linux systems since 1994, when he first met Linus > Torvalds and correctly recognized the commercial importance of Linux and > Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall obtained a DEC "Alpha" system for > Linus Torvalds and organized and engineering team which helped the Linux > community to port Linux to the world's fastest 64-bit microcomputer. > > Since 2006 Mr. Hall has been working on Project Cauā, which will large > numbers of high-tech jobs allowing students who could not afford to attend > university to both attend university and get real-life job experience. > > Mr. Hall is the author of numerous magazine and newspaper articles, many > presentations and one book, "Linux for Dummies". He currently writes a > blog for Linux Pro Magazine. > > Mr. Hall has consulted with the governments of China, Malaysia, Saudi > Arabia and Brasil as well as the United Nations and many local and state > governments on the use of Free and Open Source Software. > > Mr. Hall serves on the boards of several companies, and several non-profit > organizations. He is currently very active with the University of Sao > Paulo's Centro Interdisciplinar Em Tecnologias Interativas (CITI), acting > as a member of their advisory board. > > Mr. Hall has traveled to over 100 countries, many more than one time, > speaking on the benefits of Open Source Software having received his BS in > Commerce and Engineering from Drexel University (1973), and his MSCS from > RPI in Troy, New York (1977). > > In his spare time maddog is working on his retirement project: > > maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, > micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 31, 2016

[SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall!

by Mike Peckar

>maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. So Maddog, feel free to bring along some tequila from your micro distillery, but if you do, please make sure to toss in a few worms from the bait shop. :-) From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Tim Keller Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 5:01 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall! Hey Gang, Jon "Maddog" Hall is going to be speaking at the upcoming meeting! Here's the details: Date & Time: June 9th, 2016 @ 7pm Location: WPI Atwater-kent Rm 232 Topic: Back from the Dead: Projects that maddog is working on, and why you should care Abstract: Only a month after a massive heart attack maddog will be talking about some of the projects he is working on: (1) Rebooting the Linux Professional Institute (and why you should care) (2) Selling small computers in Brazil (and why you should care) (3) Creating jobs for the jobless and help for the clueless (and why you should care) Who is Jon "Maddog" Hall? Jon "maddog" Hall is the Chairman of the Board of the Linux Professional Institute, and the President of Linux International. Since 1969, Mr. Hall has been a programmer, systems designer, systems administrator, product manager, technical marketing manager, author and educator. He currently works as an independent consultant, and is involved with bringing environmentally friendly computing to emerging marketplaces as well as working on performance and educational issues with Free and Open Source Software via the Linaro Association. He is also closely aligned with LeMaker, a design center located in Shengen, China. While not a founding member of LPI, maddog helped formulate some of the concepts and donated personal money to allow the first 200 tests be tested for psychometrics. Mr. Hall has worked for such companies as Western Electric Corporation, Aetna Life and Casualty, Bell Laboratories, Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), VA Linux Systems, SGI, Futura Networks (Campus Party) and Linaro. Mr. Hall has taught at Hartford State Technical College (HSTC), Merrimack College and Daniel Webster College. While at HSTC his students gave him the nickname of "maddog", and he developed the skills necessary for talking to university students over pizza and beer. Mr Hall has worked on many different operating systems (MFT, MVT, VS1, VS2, MVS, CP-67, VM/CMS, RSTS/E, RSX-11M, CP/M) but concentrated on Unix systems since 1980 and Linux systems since 1994, when he first met Linus Torvalds and correctly recognized the commercial importance of Linux and Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall obtained a DEC "Alpha" system for Linus Torvalds and organized and engineering team which helped the Linux community to port Linux to the world's fastest 64-bit microcomputer. Since 2006 Mr. Hall has been working on Project Cauā, which will large numbers of high-tech jobs allowing students who could not afford to attend university to both attend university and get real-life job experience. Mr. Hall is the author of numerous magazine and newspaper articles, many presentations and one book, "Linux for Dummies". He currently writes a blog for Linux Pro Magazine. Mr. Hall has consulted with the governments of China, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia and Brasil as well as the United Nations and many local and state governments on the use of Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall serves on the boards of several companies, and several non-profit organizations. He is currently very active with the University of Sao Paulo's Centro Interdisciplinar Em Tecnologias Interativas (CITI), acting as a member of their advisory board. Mr. Hall has traveled to over 100 countries, many more than one time, speaking on the benefits of Open Source Software having received his BS in Commerce and Engineering from Drexel University (1973), and his MSCS from RPI in Troy, New York (1977). In his spare time maddog is working on his retirement project: maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop.

May 31, 2016

Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Jon "Maddog" Hall is going to be speaking at the upcoming meeting! Here's the details: Date & Time: June 9th, 2016 @ 7pm Location: WPI Atwater-kent Rm 232 Topic: Back from the Dead: Projects that maddog is working on, and why you should care Abstract: Only a month after a massive heart attack maddog will be talking about some of the projects he is working on: (1) Rebooting the Linux Professional Institute (and why you should care) (2) Selling small computers in Brazil (and why you should care) (3) Creating jobs for the jobless and help for the clueless (and why you should care) Who is Jon "Maddog" Hall? Jon "maddog" Hall is the Chairman of the Board of the Linux Professional Institute, and the President of Linux International. Since 1969, Mr. Hall has been a programmer, systems designer, systems administrator, product manager, technical marketing manager, author and educator. He currently works as an independent consultant, and is involved with bringing environmentally friendly computing to emerging marketplaces as well as working on performance and educational issues with Free and Open Source Software via the Linaro Association. He is also closely aligned with LeMaker, a design center located in Shengen, China. While not a founding member of LPI, maddog helped formulate some of the concepts and donated personal money to allow the first 200 tests be tested for psychometrics. Mr. Hall has worked for such companies as Western Electric Corporation, Aetna Life and Casualty, Bell Laboratories, Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), VA Linux Systems, SGI, Futura Networks (Campus Party) and Linaro. Mr. Hall has taught at Hartford State Technical College (HSTC), Merrimack College and Daniel Webster College. While at HSTC his students gave him the nickname of "maddog", and he developed the skills necessary for talking to university students over pizza and beer. Mr Hall has worked on many different operating systems (MFT, MVT, VS1, VS2, MVS, CP-67, VM/CMS, RSTS/E, RSX-11M, CP/M) but concentrated on Unix systems since 1980 and Linux systems since 1994, when he first met Linus Torvalds and correctly recognized the commercial importance of Linux and Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall obtained a DEC "Alpha" system for Linus Torvalds and organized and engineering team which helped the Linux community to port Linux to the world's fastest 64-bit microcomputer. Since 2006 Mr. Hall has been working on Project Cauā, which will large numbers of high-tech jobs allowing students who could not afford to attend university to both attend university and get real-life job experience. Mr. Hall is the author of numerous magazine and newspaper articles, many presentations and one book, "Linux for Dummies". He currently writes a blog for Linux Pro Magazine. Mr. Hall has consulted with the governments of China, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia and Brasil as well as the United Nations and many local and state governments on the use of Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall serves on the boards of several companies, and several non-profit organizations. He is currently very active with the University of Sao Paulo's Centro Interdisciplinar Em Tecnologias Interativas (CITI), acting as a member of their advisory board. Mr. Hall has traveled to over 100 countries, many more than one time, speaking on the benefits of Open Source Software having received his BS in Commerce and Engineering from Drexel University (1973), and his MSCS from RPI in Troy, New York (1977). In his spare time maddog is working on his retirement project: maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop.

May 31, 2016

Next Meeting June 9th! 2016

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Our next meeting is in three weeks! I hope everybody had a great time at Technocopia! If anybody has any burning interests, please let me know. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

May 25, 2016

Reminder: May WLUG Meeting TODAY! Field Trip to Technocopia on May 12th!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, This is a reminder that we've got a field trip planned for this WLUG meeting! We're going to Technocopia May 12th! @ 7pm! It's located at 44 Portland St. We've been told by 7pm the lot next to the building is available for parking. Kevin Harrington is going to be giving a tour of the new digs and then showing off his Bowler Robotics Studio stuff. Afterwards we'll figure out a pizza situation. Thanks Ron for organizing this! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

May 12, 2016

Reminder: May WLUG Meeting: Field Trip to Technocopia on May 12th!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, This is a reminder that we've got a field trip planned for this WLUG meeting! We're going to Technocopia May 12th! @ 7pm! It's located at 44 Portland St. We've been told by 7pm the lot next to the building is available for parking. Kevin Harrington is going to be giving a tour of the new digs and then showing off his Bowler Robotics Studio stuff. Afterwards we'll figure out a pizza situation. Thanks Ron for organizing this! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

May 9, 2016

May WLUG Meeting: Field Trip to Technocopia on May 12th!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! We are going on a field trip! When: May 12th Where: Technocopia @ 44 Portland St. Worcester MA. Parking: By 7pm the lot next to the building is empty so parking is easy. Who: Kevin Harrington What: Kevin will be giving a tour of the place and then a demo of Bowler Robotics Studio I would thank long time member Ron for organizing this! Afterwards we'll figure something out for pizza! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 30, 2016

WLUG Field Trip May 12th to Technopia!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! Our next WLUG Meeting is going to be a field trip to the new location of Technocopia <http://technocopia.org/> Time: 7pm Date: May 12th, 2016 Location: 44 Portland St. 6th Floor Topic: Tour and Demos. I'd like to thank our long time member Ron for orchestrating this! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 23, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!

by Gregory Avedissian

Yes, it's still April, which started on a Friday. May starts on a Sunday. Greg On 04/21/2016 04:35 PM, Frank Sweetser wrote: > It wasn't just you. The WPI campus email servers had a glitch in the anti spam system, and a large backlog of messages, including WLUG, got caught up in it. > > On April 21, 2016 3:30:56 PM EDT, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: >> Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU (mx1.wpi.edu [130.215.36.141]) >> by MAIL1.WPI.EDU (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTP id u3LIE4LJ011168; >> Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:04 -0400 >> Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) >> by MX1.WPI.EDU (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3LIE3EZ012905; >> Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:03 -0400 >> (envelope-from wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org) >> Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU >> by MX1.WPI.EDU with queue id 38885170-1; >> Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:43:19 GMT >> >> Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> writes: >> >>> On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: >>>> Hey Gang, >>>> >>>> This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! >> >> I just got a wad of messages from last week. >> >> Don't know what happened, but it looks like not my fault. >> >> MX1.WPI.EDU takes seven days to deliver a message to itself. >> >> Why exactly seven days? (plus one second) >> >> Not my problem, I'm still thinking about Knuth Vol 4B, >> problem 121, and how to prove the Myhill-Nerode theorem >> in a monoidal closed category. >> >> This a test. Is it still April? >> My calendar says May, but it's 2009. >> I save paper by using old caledars (there's always >> a month that starts on the same day of the week). >> >> -- Keith >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 21, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!

by Frank Sweetser

It wasn't just you. The WPI campus email servers had a glitch in the anti spam system, and a large backlog of messages, including WLUG, got caught up in it. On April 21, 2016 3:30:56 PM EDT, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: >Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU (mx1.wpi.edu [130.215.36.141]) > by MAIL1.WPI.EDU (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTP id u3LIE4LJ011168; > Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:04 -0400 >Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by MX1.WPI.EDU (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3LIE3EZ012905; > Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:03 -0400 > (envelope-from wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org) >Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU > by MX1.WPI.EDU with queue id 38885170-1; > Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:43:19 GMT > >Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: >>> Hey Gang, >>> >>> This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > >I just got a wad of messages from last week. > >Don't know what happened, but it looks like not my fault. > >MX1.WPI.EDU takes seven days to deliver a message to itself. > >Why exactly seven days? (plus one second) > >Not my problem, I'm still thinking about Knuth Vol 4B, >problem 121, and how to prove the Myhill-Nerode theorem >in a monoidal closed category. > >This a test. Is it still April? >My calendar says May, but it's 2009. >I save paper by using old caledars (there's always >a month that starts on the same day of the week). > > -- Keith > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

April 21, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!

by Keith Wright

Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU (mx1.wpi.edu [130.215.36.141]) by MAIL1.WPI.EDU (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTP id u3LIE4LJ011168; Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:04 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MX1.WPI.EDU (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3LIE3EZ012905; Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:03 -0400 (envelope-from wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org) Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU by MX1.WPI.EDU with queue id 38885170-1; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:43:19 GMT Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> writes: > On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: >> Hey Gang, >> >> This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! I just got a wad of messages from last week. Don't know what happened, but it looks like not my fault. MX1.WPI.EDU takes seven days to deliver a message to itself. Why exactly seven days? (plus one second) Not my problem, I'm still thinking about Knuth Vol 4B, problem 121, and how to prove the Myhill-Nerode theorem in a monoidal closed category. This a test. Is it still April? My calendar says May, but it's 2009. I save paper by using old caledars (there's always a month that starts on the same day of the week). -- Keith

April 21, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Raspberry Pi alternative

by JeffA Maillists

I backed this and have a 2GB model on the way... I will probably be using it as a Repetier Host server for my 3D printers... Jeff On Mar 11, 2016 9:35 AM, "Chuck Anderson" <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Here is the Raspberry Pi alternative I was trying to remember the name > of last night: > > https://www.pine64.com/product#pricing > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 20, 2016

I will be unavke to attend tonight...

by Tim Keller

My wife and one of my kids is under the weather... I'm going to do the right thing and stay home and take care of them. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!

by Mike Peckar

Wish I could make it but I’ve got a conflict. Greg, If you have slides or notes to share after the meeting, that would be splendid. Thanks, Mike

April 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!

by Tim Keller

I believe at this point ALL the rooms in WPI have hdmi. That shouldn't be a problem. I do believe all the rooms have at the podium a 3mm head phone jack. Thanks, Tim. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've got some technical concerns about the demo. Just want to make sure we > have all the right stuff on hand. No VGA port on the laptop, just HDMI. > The one time I tested that (yesterday) there was no audio through the > HDMI. The laptop speakers are loud enough if you hold your ear close. Can > we patch into the sound system with a mini-jack? (Or does someone have a > pair of micro-speakers they can bring along in their pocket?) > > Greg > > > On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > > > This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > > > > Here are the details: > > Date: April 14th, 2016 > > Time: 7pm > > Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 > > Topic: FM radio station management with Linux! > > Presenter: Greg Avedissian > > > > Long time member Greg Avedissian will be speaking about using linux to > > operate an FM radio station and giving a demo! > > > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech > pizza > > afterwards for some slices and more banter! > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!

by Gregory Avedissian

I've got some technical concerns about the demo. Just want to make sure we have all the right stuff on hand. No VGA port on the laptop, just HDMI. The one time I tested that (yesterday) there was no audio through the HDMI. The laptop speakers are loud enough if you hold your ear close. Can we patch into the sound system with a mini-jack? (Or does someone have a pair of micro-speakers they can bring along in their pocket?) Greg On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang, > > This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > > Here are the details: > Date: April 14th, 2016 > Time: 7pm > Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 > Topic: FM radio station management with Linux! > Presenter: Greg Avedissian > > Long time member Greg Avedissian will be speaking about using linux to > operate an FM radio station and giving a demo! > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech pizza > afterwards for some slices and more banter! > > Later, > Tim. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 14, 2016

WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! Here are the details: Date: April 14th, 2016 Time: 7pm Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 Topic: FM radio station management with Linux! Presenter: Greg Avedissian Long time member Greg Avedissian will be speaking about using linux to operate an FM radio station and giving a demo! Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech pizza afterwards for some slices and more banter! Later, Tim.

April 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thursday April 14th 2016 NOTE LOCATION!

by Tim Keller

That would be FANTASTIC! Sounds like we've got ourselves a speaker! Thanks Greg! Later, Tim. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I could talk about using linux for radio broadcast automation. Demo, too - > I've got it running on the laptop. > > Greg > > > On 04/12/2016 03:17 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > > > This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > > > > Here are the details: > > Date: April 14th, 2016 > > Time: 7pm > > Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 > > Topic: None Currently. If someone wants to speak let me know! > > > > I've reached out to a bunch of people but schedules/etc. have gotten in > the > > way. Worse case scenario, we simply nerd out... > > > > If people are interested I can speak about hadoop and what's gone into > > building the clusters and some of the hardware and management challenges > > I've dealt with. > > > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech > pizza > > afterwards for some slices and more banter! > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 12, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thursday April 14th 2016 NOTE LOCATION!

by Gregory Avedissian

I could talk about using linux for radio broadcast automation. Demo, too - I've got it running on the laptop. Greg On 04/12/2016 03:17 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang, > > This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > > Here are the details: > Date: April 14th, 2016 > Time: 7pm > Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 > Topic: None Currently. If someone wants to speak let me know! > > I've reached out to a bunch of people but schedules/etc. have gotten in the > way. Worse case scenario, we simply nerd out... > > If people are interested I can speak about hadoop and what's gone into > building the clusters and some of the hardware and management challenges > I've dealt with. > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech pizza > afterwards for some slices and more banter! > > Later, > Tim. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 12, 2016

Reminder: Meeting Thursday April 14th 2016 NOTE LOCATION!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! Here are the details: Date: April 14th, 2016 Time: 7pm Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 Topic: None Currently. If someone wants to speak let me know! I've reached out to a bunch of people but schedules/etc. have gotten in the way. Worse case scenario, we simply nerd out... If people are interested I can speak about hadoop and what's gone into building the clusters and some of the hardware and management challenges I've dealt with. Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech pizza afterwards for some slices and more banter! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 12, 2016

Meeting Reminder! April 14th, 2016 @ 7pm NOTE: Location change!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Our next meeting is going to be April 14th, 2016! We're going to be back in At-Water Kent Rm 232. As for a speaker nothing has panned out yet, so we'll see. Worse case I can talk about ansible. As usual snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll head to Tech to keep talking shop and eat some pizza! Later, Tim.

April 6, 2016

Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues

by John Stoffel

Gary> Yes, that's what I was doing but after I chose this the Mint installer Gary> wasn't seeing any partitions. Removed GPT record with gdisk and that Gary> fixed it. Gary> On 03/25/2016 11:49 AM, John Stoffel wrote: >> You're talking about the MINT installer, right? In any case, I think >> you need to make sure that you boot into Win10, shrink the C:\ drive >> and leave free space on the disk. >> >> The in the mint installer you need to select the custom disk >> partitioning scheme, since you need to find and select the space by >> hand. I think you should be able to understand GPT partitions with both GRUB and Mint these days... but haven't tested it myself in detail.

April 1, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Mike Peckar

> It is interesting that they are bringing some type of *IX support back... Peter Pouliot, who is the MS guy working on getting Hyper-V support back into OpenStack, spoke at last year's PuppetConf in Boston, and said that *nix stacks will likely come back into MS products so MS can play with the likes of OpenStack and similar opensource tools making their way into devOps, EntOps, cloud apps and big data. In essence, he indicated they're panicking and they should be. Mike

March 31, 2016

good article Q+A with Linus Torvalds

by Doug Mildram

doug> The joys of project management! About which I know very little. I only noticed this because the IEEE......... (which i joined for a short year, then they keep sending me weekly/monthly stuff for free on email, plus they keep begging me to re-join) sent me links to..... http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/linux-at-25-qa-with-linus-torva… doug> My favorite take-home (one comment/reply to the line below said: "everyone knows that!" ) Linux is a kernel, not an entire operating system. but in the article, Linus got quoted saying... If I had known what I know today when I started, I would never have had the chutzpah to start writing my own operating system: You need a certain amount of naïveté to think that you can do it.

March 31, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Chuck Anderson

Windows NT/XP/7/8 had the POSIX subsystem and then the Interix subsystem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interix But they deprecated it in Windows 8 and don't support it at all on Windows 10. It is interesting that they are bringing some type of *IX support back... On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 05:42:54PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > As one of my co-workers pointed out... the MS file model is fundamentally > incompatible with the linux model. Try renaming a file in windows that > someone else has open... try deleting a file someone has open. > > There are lots and lots of linux programs that do that last trick... create > a temp file, open it and then delete it... use it for scratch space and > then when they close it... *poof* it's gone. > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Dennis Payne <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> > wrote: > > > Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically > > interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin. I > > imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it support > > SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I might install > > it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install. > > > > On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > > > > > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspa… > > > > They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows > > syscalls... > > > > Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. > > > > Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now that > > it'll be running sshd. > > > > Tim.

March 31, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Tim Keller

As one of my co-workers pointed out... the MS file model is fundamentally incompatible with the linux model. Try renaming a file in windows that someone else has open... try deleting a file someone has open. There are lots and lots of linux programs that do that last trick... create a temp file, open it and then delete it... use it for scratch space and then when they close it... *poof* it's gone. On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Dennis Payne <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> wrote: > Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically > interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin. I > imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it support > SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I might install > it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install. > > On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspa… > > They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows > syscalls... > > Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. > > Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now that > it'll be running sshd. > > Tim. > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing listWlug@mail.wlug.orghttp://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 30, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Dennis Payne

Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin. I imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it support SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I might install it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install. On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-u > serspace-for-windows-developers/ > > They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows > syscalls... > > Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. > > Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now > that it'll be running sshd. > > Tim. > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 30, 2016

Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Tim Keller

https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspa… They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows syscalls... Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now that it'll be running sshd. Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 30, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Block-level remote file sync?

by Keith Wright

Chris <wolcen(a)riseup.net> writes: > Thanks in advance! Hope you are all well. > --Chris > > PS - LibrePlanet was pretty fun :) Fine, thank you. -- Keith PS: I was there, at least on Saturday. Were you hiding, or do I not know what Chris looks like? Hint: the law of excluded middle is irrelevant, as is relevance logic. Answer: Give up? B the latter, and/or both/either A, the former, and/or B. PPS: I suppose I could Google what LOPSA stands for, but I don't care.

March 29, 2016

Next Meeting April 14th!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, The next meeting is going to be April 14th. I've put a couple of feelers out for speakers but nothing has solidified yet. If there's something people would like to talk about, I'd be game! Here are couple of topics that people might find interesting: Home security using Zone Alarm Hadoop FOSS Databases Let me know what you think. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 29, 2016

LOPSA-East '16 Early Bird Registration extended

by LOPSA-East '16

The “*please fasten you seatbelt sign*” is on and LOPSA-NJ is happy to announce that registration for the 2016 LOPSA-East conference is *OPEN*. Early Bird pricing is a great deal and will be available till March 25th. We have some great classes and talks this year and we hope you all can join us. There are many discounts that you can find out about at http://lopsaeast.org/2016/lopsa-east-costs/#dis Our Friday night Keynote will be Tanya Reilly who has been a Site Reliability Engineer at Google since 2005, working on low level infrastructure like distributed locking, load balancing, bootstrapping and monitoring systems. Before Google, she worked as a Systems Administrator at eircom.net, Ireland’s largest ISP, and before that she was the entire IT Department for a small software house. She likes writing Go, building Lego spaceships, and predicting how things will break.” “Does technical debt turn your small changes into minefields? Does your production environment expect perfect humans? This talk highlights tools, configuration and documentation that set us up for failure. It advocates for removing traps, so that you don’t have to waste brain cycles on remembering where they are. And it offers practical advice for sending your future self (and future coworkers!) gifts, instead of post mortems that just say “human error :-(”. Includes stories of preventable outages. Bring your schadenfreude.” We will be announcing some new great things going on later as the conference gets closer. One of the things that was brought up in the feed back from the past few years is a get together on Thursday night for those in the area or arriving early so we will be opening up the bag stuffing party to all. More details on this will be added to the website as the time gets closer. Friday night we will have the Birds-Of-a-Feathers again this year as well as a Cards Against Humanity game for anyone who wants to join and a few more fun things that make LOPSA-East different from other area conferences. We can’t wait to see you all in May at the LOPSA-East Conference. Remember to reserve your room at the Hyatt Regency New Brunswick at the group rate of $129 single/double plus tax. When the rooms in the LOPSA-East block are sold out, requests will be handled on a space-available basis at the hotel’s standard rate. Make your reservations early! To reserve your room on the web go to https://aws.passkey.com/g/51094713 If you have any questions or ideas you would like to ask or discuses please email me at wbilancio(a)lopsanj.org. <wbilancio(a)bilancio.org>

March 29, 2016

Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues

by Gary Hanley

Yes, that's what I was doing but after I chose this the Mint installer wasn't seeing any partitions. Removed GPT record with gdisk and that fixed it. On 03/25/2016 11:49 AM, John Stoffel wrote: > You're talking about the MINT installer, right? In any case, I think > you need to make sure that you boot into Win10, shrink the C:\ drive > and leave free space on the disk. > > The in the mint installer you need to select the custom disk > partitioning scheme, since you need to find and select the space by > hand. >

March 25, 2016

Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues

by Gary Hanley

Finally. Success. It wasn't pretty and maybe I'm vulnerable to some particular types of threats but at least I have Windows and Linux installed and available. :-\ In order to get the installer to see the Windows partition I had to open a terminal and run gdisk to remove the GPT record from the disk and tell it to use MBR. I'm having an issue with the grub menu hanging when I toggle down. If I go very slow it doesn't hang. Hmmmm. On 03/25/2016 10:33 AM, Gary Hanley wrote: > Yeah, I should know better. I was beat up and frustrated at the time. > Sorry. > > The root of my problem was that I couldn't find any options in the > BIOS to manipulate the Secure Boot/UEFI/Legacy stuff. However, I > found them this morning after I selected an option that I assumed to > be unrelated which unlocked them. Thank you, Gigabyte. > > So I'm making progress now but I'm still not out of the woods yet. > I've got Windows installed with space partitioned for LM but now I'm > working on getting the installer to recognize the Windows partition. > It thinks I have the entire disk available. Damn. Keep digging.... > > Thanks for the BLOG link. Looks interesting. I'll check it out. > > > On 03/25/2016 09:54 AM, John Stoffel wrote: >> Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side >> Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell >> Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace >> Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for >> Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power >> Gary> consumption. >> >> Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered why >> I don't >> Gary> like to build these any more. >> >> Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, >> Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install >> Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. >> >> You really really really need to give more details here, otherwise no >> one will be able to help you. >> >> For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself without any >> problems on this board? >> >> I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? >> >> So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new >> bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke >> both I suspect. >> >> Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for >> Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an >> Gary> Intel I5 6400). >> >> Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, >> Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding >> Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? >> >> Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs where they >> have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way around >> it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... >> >> Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my setup >> but I >> Gary> hope not. >> >> Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's >> possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow >> non-signed keys to boot. >> >> Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI >> maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh wait, it's >> Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: >> >> https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org >> >> It might have some pointers. >> >> >> But please, more details would help us help you. >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >

March 25, 2016

Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues

by John Stoffel

Gary> Yeah, I should know better. I was beat up and frustrated at the time. Gary> Sorry. Been there! :-) Gary> The root of my problem was that I couldn't find any options in Gary> the BIOS to manipulate the Secure Boot/UEFI/Legacy stuff. Gary> However, I found them this morning after I selected an option Gary> that I assumed to be unrelated which unlocked them. Thank you, Gary> Gigabyte. Gigabyte is usually a good bet, but I'm sure the crack monkeys who write the firmware and setup the menus weren't thinking well that day. Gary> So I'm making progress now but I'm still not out of the woods Gary> yet. I've got Windows installed with space partitioned for LM Gary> but now I'm working on getting the installer to recognize the Gary> Windows partition. It thinks I have the entire disk available. Gary> Damn. Keep digging.... You're talking about the MINT installer, right? In any case, I think you need to make sure that you boot into Win10, shrink the C:\ drive and leave free space on the disk. The in the mint installer you need to select the custom disk partitioning scheme, since you need to find and select the space by hand. Gary> Thanks for the BLOG link. Looks interesting. I'll check it out. It is interestingm, though I suspect not directly applicable in this case. You're closer now, which is good! Gary> On 03/25/2016 09:54 AM, John Stoffel wrote: Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power Gary> consumption. >> Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered why I don't Gary> like to build these any more. >> Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. >> >> You really really really need to give more details here, otherwise no >> one will be able to help you. >> >> For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself without any >> problems on this board? >> >> I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? >> >> So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new >> bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke >> both I suspect. >> Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an Gary> Intel I5 6400). >> Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? >> >> Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs where they >> have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way around >> it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... >> Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my setup but I Gary> hope not. >> >> Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's >> possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow >> non-signed keys to boot. >> >> Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI >> maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh wait, it's >> Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: >> >> https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org >> >> It might have some pointers. >> >> >> But please, more details would help us help you. >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> Gary> _______________________________________________ Gary> Wlug mailing list Gary> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Gary> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 25, 2016

Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues

by Gary Hanley

Yes, I have that disabled now. Windows installed first. On 03/25/2016 10:15 AM, Randall Mason wrote: > You have turned off secure boot, right? Which OS is working right > now? Can you run grub manually from the UEFI prompt? Can you get to > the UEFI prompt? Are you trying to install Windows second after a > successful Linux install? > > Randall Mason > clashthebunny(a)gmail.com <mailto:clashthebunny@gmail.com> > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org > <mailto:rich@richardklein.org>> wrote: > > Have you considered picking one OS, then running the other in a > virtual machine? > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:54 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org > <mailto:john@stoffel.org>> wrote: > > > Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side > Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a > headache I fell > Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to > replace > Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working > fine for > Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less > power > Gary> consumption. > > Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I > remembered why I don't > Gary> like to build these any more. > > Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered > resolved, > Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to > install > Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. > > You really really really need to give more details here, > otherwise no > one will be able to help you. > > For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself > without any > problems on this board? > > I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? > > So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new > bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke > both I suspect. > > Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for > Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX > with an > Gary> Intel I5 6400). > > Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific > instructions, > Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines > regarding > Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? > > Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs > where they > have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way > around > it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... > > Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my > setup but I > Gary> hope not. > > Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's > possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow > non-signed keys to boot. > > Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI > maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh > wait, it's > Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: > > https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org > > It might have some pointers. > > > But please, more details would help us help you. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 25, 2016

Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues

by Gary Hanley

That might be an option if I'm not able to get them installed the way I prefer. On 03/25/2016 10:10 AM, Richard Klein wrote: > Have you considered picking one OS, then running the other in a > virtual machine? > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:54 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org > <mailto:john@stoffel.org>> wrote: > > > Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side > Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell > Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace > Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for > Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power > Gary> consumption. > > Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered > why I don't > Gary> like to build these any more. > > Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, > Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install > Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. > > You really really really need to give more details here, otherwise no > one will be able to help you. > > For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself without any > problems on this board? > > I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? > > So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new > bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke > both I suspect. > > Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for > Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an > Gary> Intel I5 6400). > > Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, > Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding > Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? > > Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs where they > have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way around > it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... > > Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my > setup but I > Gary> hope not. > > Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's > possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow > non-signed keys to boot. > > Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI > maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh wait, it's > Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: > > https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org > > It might have some pointers. > > > But please, more details would help us help you. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 25, 2016

Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues

by Gary Hanley

Yeah, I should know better. I was beat up and frustrated at the time. Sorry. The root of my problem was that I couldn't find any options in the BIOS to manipulate the Secure Boot/UEFI/Legacy stuff. However, I found them this morning after I selected an option that I assumed to be unrelated which unlocked them. Thank you, Gigabyte. So I'm making progress now but I'm still not out of the woods yet. I've got Windows installed with space partitioned for LM but now I'm working on getting the installer to recognize the Windows partition. It thinks I have the entire disk available. Damn. Keep digging.... Thanks for the BLOG link. Looks interesting. I'll check it out. On 03/25/2016 09:54 AM, John Stoffel wrote: > Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side > Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell > Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace > Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for > Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power > Gary> consumption. > > Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered why I don't > Gary> like to build these any more. > > Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, > Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install > Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. > > You really really really need to give more details here, otherwise no > one will be able to help you. > > For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself without any > problems on this board? > > I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? > > So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new > bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke > both I suspect. > > Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for > Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an > Gary> Intel I5 6400). > > Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, > Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding > Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? > > Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs where they > have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way around > it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... > > Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my setup but I > Gary> hope not. > > Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's > possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow > non-signed keys to boot. > > Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI > maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh wait, it's > Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: > > https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org > > It might have some pointers. > > > But please, more details would help us help you. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 25, 2016

Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues

by Randall Mason

You have turned off secure boot, right? Which OS is working right now? Can you run grub manually from the UEFI prompt? Can you get to the UEFI prompt? Are you trying to install Windows second after a successful Linux install? Randall Mason clashthebunny(a)gmail.com On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > Have you considered picking one OS, then running the other in a virtual > machine? > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:54 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >> >> Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side >> Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell >> Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace >> Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for >> Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power >> Gary> consumption. >> >> Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered why I >> don't >> Gary> like to build these any more. >> >> Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, >> Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install >> Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. >> >> You really really really need to give more details here, otherwise no >> one will be able to help you. >> >> For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself without any >> problems on this board? >> >> I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? >> >> So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new >> bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke >> both I suspect. >> >> Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for >> Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an >> Gary> Intel I5 6400). >> >> Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, >> Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding >> Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? >> >> Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs where they >> have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way around >> it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... >> >> Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my setup but I >> Gary> hope not. >> >> Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's >> possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow >> non-signed keys to boot. >> >> Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI >> maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh wait, it's >> Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: >> >> https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org >> >> It might have some pointers. >> >> >> But please, more details would help us help you. >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 25, 2016

Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues

by Richard Klein

Have you considered picking one OS, then running the other in a virtual machine? On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:54 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side > Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell > Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace > Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for > Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power > Gary> consumption. > > Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered why I > don't > Gary> like to build these any more. > > Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, > Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install > Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. > > You really really really need to give more details here, otherwise no > one will be able to help you. > > For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself without any > problems on this board? > > I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? > > So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new > bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke > both I suspect. > > Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for > Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an > Gary> Intel I5 6400). > > Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, > Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding > Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? > > Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs where they > have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way around > it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... > > Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my setup but I > Gary> hope not. > > Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's > possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow > non-signed keys to boot. > > Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI > maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh wait, it's > Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: > > https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org > > It might have some pointers. > > > But please, more details would help us help you. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 25, 2016

Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues

by John Stoffel

Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power Gary> consumption. Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered why I don't Gary> like to build these any more. Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. You really really really need to give more details here, otherwise no one will be able to help you. For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself without any problems on this board? I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke both I suspect. Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an Gary> Intel I5 6400). Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs where they have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way around it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my setup but I Gary> hope not. Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow non-signed keys to boot. Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh wait, it's Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org It might have some pointers. But please, more details would help us help you. John

March 25, 2016

UEFI Blues

by Gary Hanley

I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power consumption. So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered why I don't like to build these any more. I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an Intel I5 6400). So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my setup but I hope not. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- Gary

March 24, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Block-level remote file sync?

by Chris

Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking of. Thank you, Frank! I knew it was someone at WPI, sorry for mis-appropriating credit for your share ;) On 2016-03-23 20:54, Frank Sweetser wrote: > You're thinking of lsyncd: > > https://github.com/axkibe/lsyncd > > It's essentially a daemon that watches one or more directories via > inotify, and fires of incremental rsync processes whenever it sees > writes go by (though you can specify filters rather than a simple bit > for bit copy). It's basically a poor man's userspace RAID1. > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a > solution that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > On 3/23/2016 8:50 PM, Chris wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I recall someone giving a lightning talk on this quite a while ago >> (Chuck I think, about 2 years ago!). >> >> I was hoping to set up a simple backup solution with my son. He'd >> replicate his data to my system, mine to his. Now, the interesting >> part, >> was I think that the replication method someone used was a lazy write >> to >> the backup location with a folder watching process or something. I >> don't >> think I want to set up DRBD for this, but I would like an efficient >> backup operation (e.g. would be nice to be able to efficiently backup >> written chunks of a file with an EFS system on it). >> >> Might someone remember what I'm talking about, or have any >> suggestions? >> >> Thanks in advance! Hope you are all well. >> --Chris >> >> PS - LibrePlanet was pretty fun :) >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>

March 24, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Block-level remote file sync?

by Frank Sweetser

You're thinking of lsyncd: https://github.com/axkibe/lsyncd It's essentially a daemon that watches one or more directories via inotify, and fires of incremental rsync processes whenever it sees writes go by (though you can specify filters rather than a simple bit for bit copy). It's basically a poor man's userspace RAID1. Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 3/23/2016 8:50 PM, Chris wrote: > Hi all, > > I recall someone giving a lightning talk on this quite a while ago > (Chuck I think, about 2 years ago!). > > I was hoping to set up a simple backup solution with my son. He'd > replicate his data to my system, mine to his. Now, the interesting part, > was I think that the replication method someone used was a lazy write to > the backup location with a folder watching process or something. I don't > think I want to set up DRBD for this, but I would like an efficient > backup operation (e.g. would be nice to be able to efficiently backup > written chunks of a file with an EFS system on it). > > Might someone remember what I'm talking about, or have any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance! Hope you are all well. > --Chris > > PS - LibrePlanet was pretty fun :) > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 24, 2016

Block-level remote file sync?

by Chris

Hi all, I recall someone giving a lightning talk on this quite a while ago (Chuck I think, about 2 years ago!). I was hoping to set up a simple backup solution with my son. He'd replicate his data to my system, mine to his. Now, the interesting part, was I think that the replication method someone used was a lazy write to the backup location with a folder watching process or something. I don't think I want to set up DRBD for this, but I would like an efficient backup operation (e.g. would be nice to be able to efficiently backup written chunks of a file with an EFS system on it). Might someone remember what I'm talking about, or have any suggestions? Thanks in advance! Hope you are all well. --Chris PS - LibrePlanet was pretty fun :)

March 24, 2016

Subject: New TV Suggestions

by Joel

Late to the party. Been that kind of busy week Replaced 36 inch tube with a 55 inch LCD around 4 years ago. Bought the best TV to match the imperfect eyeballs in our home. It's personal what we all see and how well. We went with Samsung UN55D7000. Amazon shipped new was best deal around then. Would do it again (that model and via Amazon). LCD gets fed signals by: Charter Cable Box with DVR Have extra info on DVR tricks via ESata if others have this setup. Samsung blu ray player about 4 years old (no WIFI, no apps) mostly used for redbox rentals. Denon AVR 2112ci receiver & speakers key here is HDMI and "ARC" so TV & receiver share volume and inputs. It is a video source too ksetup & stations) Recently OSMC distro to play KODI on a Raspberry Pi 3 - excellent for video unsure if it works for me with music (mp3 and streaming). Older Roku 2 (likely go to OSMC or Roku 4 soon) used for Intertube streaming of Netflix / Showtime /HBO / etc. It still works but now is *wonky* and needs power reboots every other day. Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:40:35 -0400 From: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Wlug] New TV Suggestions? To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Message-ID: <CA+r3vQh7pQAb38LyQ+CQCoUW1Yu-AzLpfkzJGgpPR4+QcA=fow(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hey Gang, After 17 years, my venerable 27" Panasonic tube TV finally died. Now... what to replace it with? So far I'm looking at the Visio TVs, but I'd peoples like/hates with their current TV's etc. I like won't be using it as a monitor and will only be watching streaming stuff. I figure this is midly linux related because most modern TV's are running linux! Thanks, Tim.

March 16, 2016

Re: [Wlug] New TV Suggestions?

by Chuck Anderson

Nice site! But Visio wasn't the recommended one for larger sizes, just "The Best TV Around $500" 43" model: "The 43-inch Vizio uses a VA-type LCD panel while some other displays (including the 49-inch M-series) use an IPS panel. While IPS panels offers wider viewing angles, making them good for a bar or restaurant, their black levels and contrast ratios are much worse. The VA-type LCD panel on our pick offers very good black levels. The local dimming features improve on that. So for most people, the sizes that use VA-type panels will look far better in your home, unless you usually watch from off to the side." Their "Best TV" was the Samsung JU7100 at $1598. They also review receivers and speakers... On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 05:18:27PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > The site my cohorts keep pointing me at is the wirecutters... who recommend > the Visio M##-C1 where ## is 43,49,50,55,60... > > I've also heard of people who are quite happy with Samsung TV's though > honestly I have a Roku so I'd rather spend the money on picture quality > then on smartness. > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:45 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > > > > Tim> After 17 years, my venerable 27" Panasonic tube TV finally died. > > > > Heh... my 32" JVC tube is still going strong... though relegated to > > the basement now... > > > > Tim> Now... what to replace it with? > > > > What devices do you have hooked up to your TV? I assume blueRay or > > DVD, but anything else? > > > > Personally, I'd probably skip or not use any of the smart TVs since > > they seem to get hacked or broken after a few short years, esp when > > the vendor turns off the website supporting them. Or stops updating > > the Netflix plugin, etc. > > > > I've got a Sony 42" LCD from 2007 which is working great. Hooked upto > > a Tivo and DVD player. So for me, getting more inputs would be a big > > thing, so then I could try running a ChromeCast or someth other type > > of system on a stick. Basically, keep the TV as dumb as possible, so > > that the sucker doesn't screw you over.

March 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] New TV Suggestions?

by Clint Moyer

There's pretty much no such thing as a "dumb" TV in today's consumer market. If you find one, it'll be an off brand. I bought the Vizio M55 last month and like it. It's GUI is simpler and thus less cumbersome than the Samsung TV we have. It's also 4K if that matters to you. On March 14, 2016 5:18:27 PM EDT, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >The site my cohorts keep pointing me at is the wirecutters... who >recommend >the Visio M##-C1 where ## is 43,49,50,55,60... > >I've also heard of people who are quite happy with Samsung TV's though >honestly I have a Roku so I'd rather spend the money on picture quality >then on smartness. > >On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:45 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >> >> Tim> After 17 years, my venerable 27" Panasonic tube TV finally died. >> >> Heh... my 32" JVC tube is still going strong... though relegated to >> the basement now... >> >> Tim> Now... what to replace it with? >> >> What devices do you have hooked up to your TV? I assume blueRay or >> DVD, but anything else? >> >> Personally, I'd probably skip or not use any of the smart TVs since >> they seem to get hacked or broken after a few short years, esp when >> the vendor turns off the website supporting them. Or stops updating >> the Netflix plugin, etc. >> >> I've got a Sony 42" LCD from 2007 which is working great. Hooked >upto >> a Tivo and DVD player. So for me, getting more inputs would be a big >> thing, so then I could try running a ChromeCast or someth other type >> of system on a stick. Basically, keep the TV as dumb as possible, so >> that the sucker doesn't screw you over. >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > >-- >I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >constituents as "consumers". > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] New TV Suggestions?

by Tim Keller

The site my cohorts keep pointing me at is the wirecutters... who recommend the Visio M##-C1 where ## is 43,49,50,55,60... I've also heard of people who are quite happy with Samsung TV's though honestly I have a Roku so I'd rather spend the money on picture quality then on smartness. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:45 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Tim> After 17 years, my venerable 27" Panasonic tube TV finally died. > > Heh... my 32" JVC tube is still going strong... though relegated to > the basement now... > > Tim> Now... what to replace it with? > > What devices do you have hooked up to your TV? I assume blueRay or > DVD, but anything else? > > Personally, I'd probably skip or not use any of the smart TVs since > they seem to get hacked or broken after a few short years, esp when > the vendor turns off the website supporting them. Or stops updating > the Netflix plugin, etc. > > I've got a Sony 42" LCD from 2007 which is working great. Hooked upto > a Tivo and DVD player. So for me, getting more inputs would be a big > thing, so then I could try running a ChromeCast or someth other type > of system on a stick. Basically, keep the TV as dumb as possible, so > that the sucker doesn't screw you over. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] New TV Suggestions?

by thinkbrown＠gmail.com

My recommendation would be Sony as far as image quality and reliability go. Their newest series of smart TVs integrate Android TV, which is actually good, so that's another plus. Logan On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:45 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Tim> After 17 years, my venerable 27" Panasonic tube TV finally died. > > Heh... my 32" JVC tube is still going strong... though relegated to > the basement now... > > Tim> Now... what to replace it with? > > What devices do you have hooked up to your TV? I assume blueRay or > DVD, but anything else? > > Personally, I'd probably skip or not use any of the smart TVs since > they seem to get hacked or broken after a few short years, esp when > the vendor turns off the website supporting them. Or stops updating > the Netflix plugin, etc. > > I've got a Sony 42" LCD from 2007 which is working great. Hooked upto > a Tivo and DVD player. So for me, getting more inputs would be a big > thing, so then I could try running a ChromeCast or someth other type > of system on a stick. Basically, keep the TV as dumb as possible, so > that the sucker doesn't screw you over. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Raspberry Pi alternative

by John Stoffel

Mike> Timely! I'm working on a project to virtualize my home systems Mike> (on esxi) and have been looking at thin clients with decent Mike> GPU's - this looks like it'll fit the bill perfectly. It depends on how good the GPU is on the pine64.org system. I also note that they're not shipping the larger memory systems yet either... has anyone else tried the Beaglebone Black?

March 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] New TV Suggestions?

by John Stoffel

Tim> After 17 years, my venerable 27" Panasonic tube TV finally died. Heh... my 32" JVC tube is still going strong... though relegated to the basement now... Tim> Now... what to replace it with? What devices do you have hooked up to your TV? I assume blueRay or DVD, but anything else? Personally, I'd probably skip or not use any of the smart TVs since they seem to get hacked or broken after a few short years, esp when the vendor turns off the website supporting them. Or stops updating the Netflix plugin, etc. I've got a Sony 42" LCD from 2007 which is working great. Hooked upto a Tivo and DVD player. So for me, getting more inputs would be a big thing, so then I could try running a ChromeCast or someth other type of system on a stick. Basically, keep the TV as dumb as possible, so that the sucker doesn't screw you over. John

March 14, 2016

New TV Suggestions?

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, After 17 years, my venerable 27" Panasonic tube TV finally died. Now... what to replace it with? So far I'm looking at the Visio TVs, but I'd peoples like/hates with their current TV's etc. I like won't be using it as a monitor and will only be watching streaming stuff. I figure this is midly linux related because most modern TV's are running linux! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Raspberry Pi alternative

by Mike Peckar

Timely! I'm working on a project to virtualize my home systems (on esxi) and have been looking at thin clients with decent GPU's - this looks like it'll fit the bill perfectly. Mike -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:32 AM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Raspberry Pi alternative Here is the Raspberry Pi alternative I was trying to remember the name of last night: https://www.pine64.com/product#pricing _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 11, 2016

Raspberry Pi alternative

by Chuck Anderson

Here is the Raspberry Pi alternative I was trying to remember the name of last night: https://www.pine64.com/product#pricing

March 11, 2016

Re: [Wlug] March WLUG Meeting details update!

by Tim Keller

Jon, That would be fantastic! Obviously we'll work with your schedule. Let us know when and the spot's yours. Thanks, Tim. On Tuesday, March 8, 2016, Jon "maddog" Hall <jon.maddog.hall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Tim, > I am involved with a project to bring low cost Single Board Computers to Latin America. As part of this I am constantly evaluating SBCs for the project. > I could give a talk on some of the SBCs on the market, how to evaluate them and how to make a choice between the ones you might want to purchase. > Unfortunately I will not be able to do this until the June or July time frame. > If you are interested, please let me know. > maddog > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016, 03:33 Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hey Gang, >> Here are the details: >> Location: WPI Student Center Mid-Century Rm 331 >> Date & Time: March 10th, 2016 @ 7:00pm >> Topic: RPZ Bind plus round table. >> Snacks and refreshments will be provided. >> Afterwards we'll retire to Tech Pizza and continue the conversation! >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 9, 2016

Re: [Wlug] March WLUG Meeting details update!

by Jon "maddog" Hall

Hi Tim, I am involved with a project to bring low cost Single Board Computers to Latin America. As part of this I am constantly evaluating SBCs for the project. I could give a talk on some of the SBCs on the market, how to evaluate them and how to make a choice between the ones you might want to purchase. Unfortunately I will not be able to do this until the June or July time frame. If you are interested, please let me know. maddog On Wed, Mar 9, 2016, 03:33 Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Here are the details: > > Location: WPI Student Center Mid-Century Rm 331 > Date & Time: March 10th, 2016 @ 7:00pm > Topic: RPZ Bind plus round table. > > Snacks and refreshments will be provided. > > Afterwards we'll retire to Tech Pizza and continue the conversation! > > Thanks, > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 9, 2016

March WLUG Meeting details update!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Here are the details: Location: WPI Student Center Mid-Century Rm 331 Date & Time: March 10th, 2016 @ 7:00pm Topic: RPZ Bind plus round table. Snacks and refreshments will be provided. Afterwards we'll retire to Tech Pizza and continue the conversation! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 8, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting March 10th 2016!

by Frank Sweetser

Sure, I can throw some slides together! On March 7, 2016 9:32:04 PM EST, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Hey Gang, > >I put a shout out for topic ideas and got crickets... If Frank would be >gracious enough to do a talk bout RPZ security features in bind (even >if >it's a short one) that would be great. > >Then I figure we can do a round table and talk about the new Raspberry >Pi >3, competitors to the Pi, SQL server for Linux?!?!, ZFS on in ubuntu >16.10, >linux gaming, etc. > >If there's something that someone's interested in talking about, reply >to >the list and we'll round table it as well... lots of times this turns >into >a topic. Someone (maybe Chuck) mentioned something about Flask... > >Afterwards we'll head to Tech Pizza (and if it's warm enough maybe >Wooberry!) and keep the conversation going. > >I'd like to apologize for dropping the ball a bit lately, life's gotten >hectic. I'm going to start working on getting some speakers lined up. > >Thanks, >Tim. >-- >I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >constituents as "consumers". > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

March 8, 2016

WLUG Meeting March 10th 2016!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, I put a shout out for topic ideas and got crickets... If Frank would be gracious enough to do a talk bout RPZ security features in bind (even if it's a short one) that would be great. Then I figure we can do a round table and talk about the new Raspberry Pi 3, competitors to the Pi, SQL server for Linux?!?!, ZFS on in ubuntu 16.10, linux gaming, etc. If there's something that someone's interested in talking about, reply to the list and we'll round table it as well... lots of times this turns into a topic. Someone (maybe Chuck) mentioned something about Flask... Afterwards we'll head to Tech Pizza (and if it's warm enough maybe Wooberry!) and keep the conversation going. I'd like to apologize for dropping the ball a bit lately, life's gotten hectic. I'm going to start working on getting some speakers lined up. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 8, 2016

Libre Planet 2016 - Mar 19th/20th

by Christopher Thompson

Hi all, Just a heads up to those that hadn't noticed/heard yet: Libre Planet 2016 will be held at MIT this coming this 19th & 20th. This year's keynote speaker is ACLU technologist and Debian contributer Daniel Kahn Gillmor having a discussion with Edward Snowden (via live stream, of course!). Been a long time now since I've stopped in to the WLUG meeting, but I hope to see you at the event! Pretty sure the FSF could still use some volunteers too (gratis entry!) *https://libreplanet.org/2016/ *--Chris

March 3, 2016

Re: [Wlug] linux security camera

by Eric Martin

I can't agree more! A UPS backed PoE switch is definitely the way to go if you want to make sure you have video. On Wednesday, March 2, 2016, Jon "maddog" Hall <jon.maddog.hall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > One thing you might think about is how to supply power to all your > cameras, computers, etc. If the electricity is turned off in your house, > unless you have battery backup, you are out of luck. > > If you went the route of hardwired ETHERNET you could have a UPS at your > main control computer and use Power Over Ethernet (PoE) to deliver up to 90 > Watts of power to each node, plenty of power to run cameras, LED infrared > lights, computers or other small devices. > > Most UPS devices can deliver a relatively huge amount of power by today's > "Pi" standards, and you can buy switches that can power the leads going off. > > md > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2016, 09:27 brad <bkn(a)ithryn.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bkn(a)ithryn.net');>> wrote: > >> >> > On Mar 1, 2016, at 09:30, Michael Voorhis <mvoorhis(a)cs.wpi.edu >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mvoorhis(a)cs.wpi.edu');>> wrote: >> > >> > On 03/01/2016 09:20, Frank Sweetser wrote: >> >> * Assume wireless will stop working, because at some point it will. >> Wire is >> >> pretty cheap (you can get good prices on bulk wire at Monoprice), and >> it will >> >> more than make up for it's cost in reliability, performance, and >> security. >> > >> > At some point you may decide that one shot every 20/30s isn't enough, so >> > having a fast reliable network will become more and more important, as >> > you add cameras and start increasing frame-rates. Depending on the size >> > of picture you want to store (once again think about Frank's other list >> > items -- image resolution & quality) you can saturate a low throughput >> > network. If you're doing multiple cameras, or having multiple pictures >> > coming into the server per second, post-processing of the images on the >> > server end, you will end up with a CPU bottleneck. >> > >> > Look at the low-light performance of your cameras also. You don't want >> > to record a blur ... you want a useful picture of a person that you can >> > show to the authorities. Make sure the target area is well-lit. >> > >> >> Thank you for the responses. It sounds as if the PI is a good platform. >> The wired/wireless is a tradeoff like any other. I’m not sure i have any >> network drops in the area the camera would be mounted. If only i had the >> foresight it would have have network/power drops put on at the top of wall >> which we just installed this summer. If i can find a way do it nicely w/ >> wires i will. I will also investigate the frame rate. I specified 20-30s >> frequency more to emphasize that i didn’t require streaming video. It will >> take some experimenting. >> >> I do plan to off load the images on a regular basis (perhaps even >> instantly) i assumed these devices were short on storage. I have a NUC on >> site which i use as a VPN/SSH end point. i will likely offload images to >> the NUC (and/or owncloud instance) then use mencoder (or something similar) >> to create a timelapse video. >> >> It will be a fun project, hopefully i can carve out some time for it soon. >> Cheers, >> - brad >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org');> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile

March 2, 2016

Re: [Wlug] linux security camera

by Aljerin Butler,Jr.

With a few instructions do you think you can get the job done? Raspberry pi Search Results (http://www.instructables.com/howto/raspberry+pi/) Specialty/hobby (http://customdesktopsolutions.mywebcommunity.org/index.php/linux-open-sourc…) Al Butler From: "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 12:00 PM Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 149, Issue 1 ----- Forwarded Message ----- Send Wlug mailing list submissions to wlug(a)mail.wlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. linux security camera (brad) 2. Re: linux security camera (Frank Sweetser) 3. Re: linux security camera (Michael Voorhis) W - luggers, I plan to rig up a security camera for my wife’s store. Recently a drunk person stumbled in and gave the sales associate a bit of a scare, fortunately nothing happened. A company quoted $4k, which i thought was unnecessary, so linux powered i will go. I recall hearing on the list about a linux security camera potential a year ago with a PI, and a search through old list messages confirms that. The market for these PI-like devices seems to be fast moving. The PI 3 was announced recently, and the wifi option is attractive b/c less wiring is desirable. I know of other similar devices such as, beagle bones, other PIs, and ODROID (mentioned on the list). These devices are out of my domain of expertise and there are many of them. I thought the PI 3 would make for a good choice, but i thought i’d ask the list if there is anything else to consider. Price is not really an option since all these devices are so dang cheap. The camera(s) will likely fire a shot once every 20-30 second interval, so its not a continuous stream. Infrared is desirable for when the store is closed and visible light is low. Thanks, - brad A few random thoughts, based on the much larger scale surveillance system we run here: * Cameras are useless without storage. I would strongly recommend against storing the images on the Pi itself, as then someone could very easily walk off with them. Instead, check out a centralized video storage system like Zone Minder. * Think carefully about what kind of images you want - resolution, image quality, and frequency. Set up a test camera, walk around, do stuff in front of it, and see how much really gets captured. 30 seconds is a long time in between frames. With something like Zone Minder, you should also be able to set data retention and long term compression policies, giving you more flexibility. Once you have some settings you can live with, you can then translate those to actual disk sizes. * Assume wireless will stop working, because at some point it will. Wire is pretty cheap (you can get good prices on bulk wire at Monoprice), and it will more than make up for it's cost in reliability, performance, and security. This is doubly true for the 2.4GHz only wifi on the Pi3. * Are those pictures important enough to back up? Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 03/01/2016 08:39 AM, brad wrote: > W - luggers, > > I plan to rig up a security camera for my wife’s store. Recently a drunk person stumbled in and gave the sales associate a bit of a scare, fortunately nothing happened. > > A company quoted $4k, which i thought was unnecessary, so linux powered i will go. I recall hearing on the list about a linux security camera potential a year ago with a PI, and a search through old list messages confirms that. The market for these PI-like devices seems to be fast moving. The PI 3 was announced recently, and the wifi option is attractive b/c less wiring is desirable. I know of other similar devices such as, beagle bones, other PIs, and ODROID (mentioned on the list). These devices are out of my domain of expertise and there are many of them. I thought the PI 3 would make for a good choice, but i thought i’d ask the list if there is anything else to consider. > > Price is not really an option since all these devices are so dang cheap. The camera(s) will likely fire a shot once every 20-30 second interval, so its not a continuous stream. Infrared is desirable for when the store is closed and visible light is low. > > Thanks, > - brad > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > On 03/01/2016 09:20, Frank Sweetser wrote: > * Assume wireless will stop working, because at some point it will. Wire is > pretty cheap (you can get good prices on bulk wire at Monoprice), and it will > more than make up for it's cost in reliability, performance, and security. At some point you may decide that one shot every 20/30s isn't enough, so having a fast reliable network will become more and more important, as you add cameras and start increasing frame-rates. Depending on the size of picture you want to store (once again think about Frank's other list items -- image resolution & quality) you can saturate a low throughput network. If you're doing multiple cameras, or having multiple pictures coming into the server per second, post-processing of the images on the server end, you will end up with a CPU bottleneck. Look at the low-light performance of your cameras also. You don't want to record a blur ... you want a useful picture of a person that you can show to the authorities. Make sure the target area is well-lit. --MCV. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 2, 2016

Re: [Wlug] linux security camera

by Tim Keller

I'm glad this topic came up because I've also been asked to setup four wireless security cameras. My thought would be to use a raspberry pi 2 (or 3!) and have it connected via USB to a external 250GB SSD then to use zone minder to capture the video. The questions I have are: 1. Knowing the USB's all share a single interrupt... will the pi have enough throughput to capture and storage the video? 2. How many cameras can a pi reasonably support? 3. Does zone minder have retention policies? Thanks, Tim.

March 2, 2016

Re: [Wlug] linux security camera

by Jon "maddog" Hall

Hi, One thing you might think about is how to supply power to all your cameras, computers, etc. If the electricity is turned off in your house, unless you have battery backup, you are out of luck. If you went the route of hardwired ETHERNET you could have a UPS at your main control computer and use Power Over Ethernet (PoE) to deliver up to 90 Watts of power to each node, plenty of power to run cameras, LED infrared lights, computers or other small devices. Most UPS devices can deliver a relatively huge amount of power by today's "Pi" standards, and you can buy switches that can power the leads going off. md On Wed, Mar 2, 2016, 09:27 brad <bkn(a)ithryn.net> wrote: > > > On Mar 1, 2016, at 09:30, Michael Voorhis <mvoorhis(a)cs.wpi.edu> wrote: > > > > On 03/01/2016 09:20, Frank Sweetser wrote: > >> * Assume wireless will stop working, because at some point it will. > Wire is > >> pretty cheap (you can get good prices on bulk wire at Monoprice), and > it will > >> more than make up for it's cost in reliability, performance, and > security. > > > > At some point you may decide that one shot every 20/30s isn't enough, so > > having a fast reliable network will become more and more important, as > > you add cameras and start increasing frame-rates. Depending on the size > > of picture you want to store (once again think about Frank's other list > > items -- image resolution & quality) you can saturate a low throughput > > network. If you're doing multiple cameras, or having multiple pictures > > coming into the server per second, post-processing of the images on the > > server end, you will end up with a CPU bottleneck. > > > > Look at the low-light performance of your cameras also. You don't want > > to record a blur ... you want a useful picture of a person that you can > > show to the authorities. Make sure the target area is well-lit. > > > > Thank you for the responses. It sounds as if the PI is a good platform. > The wired/wireless is a tradeoff like any other. I’m not sure i have any > network drops in the area the camera would be mounted. If only i had the > foresight it would have have network/power drops put on at the top of wall > which we just installed this summer. If i can find a way do it nicely w/ > wires i will. I will also investigate the frame rate. I specified 20-30s > frequency more to emphasize that i didn’t require streaming video. It will > take some experimenting. > > I do plan to off load the images on a regular basis (perhaps even > instantly) i assumed these devices were short on storage. I have a NUC on > site which i use as a VPN/SSH end point. i will likely offload images to > the NUC (and/or owncloud instance) then use mencoder (or something similar) > to create a timelapse video. > > It will be a fun project, hopefully i can carve out some time for it soon. > Cheers, > - brad > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 2, 2016

Re: [Wlug] linux security camera

by brad

> On Mar 1, 2016, at 09:30, Michael Voorhis <mvoorhis(a)cs.wpi.edu> wrote: > > On 03/01/2016 09:20, Frank Sweetser wrote: >> * Assume wireless will stop working, because at some point it will. Wire is >> pretty cheap (you can get good prices on bulk wire at Monoprice), and it will >> more than make up for it's cost in reliability, performance, and security. > > At some point you may decide that one shot every 20/30s isn't enough, so > having a fast reliable network will become more and more important, as > you add cameras and start increasing frame-rates. Depending on the size > of picture you want to store (once again think about Frank's other list > items -- image resolution & quality) you can saturate a low throughput > network. If you're doing multiple cameras, or having multiple pictures > coming into the server per second, post-processing of the images on the > server end, you will end up with a CPU bottleneck. > > Look at the low-light performance of your cameras also. You don't want > to record a blur ... you want a useful picture of a person that you can > show to the authorities. Make sure the target area is well-lit. > Thank you for the responses. It sounds as if the PI is a good platform. The wired/wireless is a tradeoff like any other. I’m not sure i have any network drops in the area the camera would be mounted. If only i had the foresight it would have have network/power drops put on at the top of wall which we just installed this summer. If i can find a way do it nicely w/ wires i will. I will also investigate the frame rate. I specified 20-30s frequency more to emphasize that i didn’t require streaming video. It will take some experimenting. I do plan to off load the images on a regular basis (perhaps even instantly) i assumed these devices were short on storage. I have a NUC on site which i use as a VPN/SSH end point. i will likely offload images to the NUC (and/or owncloud instance) then use mencoder (or something similar) to create a timelapse video. It will be a fun project, hopefully i can carve out some time for it soon. Cheers, - brad

March 2, 2016

Re: [Wlug] linux security camera

by Michael Voorhis

On 03/01/2016 09:20, Frank Sweetser wrote: > * Assume wireless will stop working, because at some point it will. Wire is > pretty cheap (you can get good prices on bulk wire at Monoprice), and it will > more than make up for it's cost in reliability, performance, and security. At some point you may decide that one shot every 20/30s isn't enough, so having a fast reliable network will become more and more important, as you add cameras and start increasing frame-rates. Depending on the size of picture you want to store (once again think about Frank's other list items -- image resolution & quality) you can saturate a low throughput network. If you're doing multiple cameras, or having multiple pictures coming into the server per second, post-processing of the images on the server end, you will end up with a CPU bottleneck. Look at the low-light performance of your cameras also. You don't want to record a blur ... you want a useful picture of a person that you can show to the authorities. Make sure the target area is well-lit. --MCV.

March 1, 2016

Re: [Wlug] linux security camera

by Frank Sweetser

A few random thoughts, based on the much larger scale surveillance system we run here: * Cameras are useless without storage. I would strongly recommend against storing the images on the Pi itself, as then someone could very easily walk off with them. Instead, check out a centralized video storage system like Zone Minder. * Think carefully about what kind of images you want - resolution, image quality, and frequency. Set up a test camera, walk around, do stuff in front of it, and see how much really gets captured. 30 seconds is a long time in between frames. With something like Zone Minder, you should also be able to set data retention and long term compression policies, giving you more flexibility. Once you have some settings you can live with, you can then translate those to actual disk sizes. * Assume wireless will stop working, because at some point it will. Wire is pretty cheap (you can get good prices on bulk wire at Monoprice), and it will more than make up for it's cost in reliability, performance, and security. This is doubly true for the 2.4GHz only wifi on the Pi3. * Are those pictures important enough to back up? Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 03/01/2016 08:39 AM, brad wrote: > W - luggers, > > I plan to rig up a security camera for my wife’s store. Recently a drunk person stumbled in and gave the sales associate a bit of a scare, fortunately nothing happened. > > A company quoted $4k, which i thought was unnecessary, so linux powered i will go. I recall hearing on the list about a linux security camera potential a year ago with a PI, and a search through old list messages confirms that. The market for these PI-like devices seems to be fast moving. The PI 3 was announced recently, and the wifi option is attractive b/c less wiring is desirable. I know of other similar devices such as, beagle bones, other PIs, and ODROID (mentioned on the list). These devices are out of my domain of expertise and there are many of them. I thought the PI 3 would make for a good choice, but i thought i’d ask the list if there is anything else to consider. > > Price is not really an option since all these devices are so dang cheap. The camera(s) will likely fire a shot once every 20-30 second interval, so its not a continuous stream. Infrared is desirable for when the store is closed and visible light is low. > > Thanks, > - brad > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 1, 2016

linux security camera

by brad

W - luggers, I plan to rig up a security camera for my wife’s store. Recently a drunk person stumbled in and gave the sales associate a bit of a scare, fortunately nothing happened. A company quoted $4k, which i thought was unnecessary, so linux powered i will go. I recall hearing on the list about a linux security camera potential a year ago with a PI, and a search through old list messages confirms that. The market for these PI-like devices seems to be fast moving. The PI 3 was announced recently, and the wifi option is attractive b/c less wiring is desirable. I know of other similar devices such as, beagle bones, other PIs, and ODROID (mentioned on the list). These devices are out of my domain of expertise and there are many of them. I thought the PI 3 would make for a good choice, but i thought i’d ask the list if there is anything else to consider. Price is not really an option since all these devices are so dang cheap. The camera(s) will likely fire a shot once every 20-30 second interval, so its not a continuous stream. Infrared is desirable for when the store is closed and visible light is low. Thanks, - brad

March 1, 2016

Linux Malware

by Gregory Boyce

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:40 PM James Barclay <andinadditiontothat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > A few days ago I watched a Matthew Moore You tube "Mythbusting Linux" > (Https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_lhqg_p21k) and he shows how he got > malware and his Arch Linux was hacked. I am using Linux Mint 17.3 and now > have an antivirus program. > His "malware infection" on his Arch box consisted of some .exe and .dll files. The existence of Windows malware on a disk doesn't make your linux system infected. Additionally, the "malware" seems to be a malware sample from an anti-virus vendor: http://www.tekdefense.com/downloads/malware-samples/

Feb. 26, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 148, Issue 9

by James Barclay

A few days ago I watched a Matthew Moore You tube "Mythbusting Linux" (Https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_lhqg_p21k) and he shows how he got malware and his Arch Linux was hacked. I am using Linux Mint 17.3 and now have an antivirus program. I used Comodo for my XP and have it here. So now I guess we should have to buy an antivirus. I'm also looking for better ways to email and since I now have Yandex and Zoho as well as Gmail perhaps there is one even safer. I would also like to give kudos to Apple for refusing to give up the master key codes to NSA, DHS and the FBI though they have reasonably cooperated with these agencies in the past. All this from a newbie. Thank you. On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Linux Mint servers hacked (Richard Klein) > 2. Re: Linux Mint servers hacked (John Platt) > 3. Topic ideas for next meeting? (Tim Keller) > 4. Re: Topic ideas for next meeting? (Frank Sweetser) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 15:37:12 -0500 > From: Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> > Subject: [Wlug] Linux Mint servers hacked > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CA+_AdvkWx4V9ui1R5iNEN+df2dBwgaMf+EXXYD2Lp2QaqfFh2A(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I haven't read the whole story, but apparently intruders managed to > put an ISO on their servers that included a backdoor. If you > downloaded an ISO from them on Saturday, you're at risk. > > http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 15:54:46 -0500 > From: John Platt <jplatt39(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Linux Mint servers hacked > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CAKNsmOgOxN19wzaR9Gw_BX2X68+CVBz29BiDu5YuoGWGYD9J4A(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols who is a big Linux Mint fan says that if you used > bittorent or did not use a mirror you are safe. > > http://www.zdnet.com/article/has-your-linux-mint-desktop-been-hacked/ > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> > wrote: > > > I haven't read the whole story, but apparently intruders managed to > > put an ISO on their servers that included a backdoor. If you > > downloaded an ISO from them on Saturday, you're at risk. > > > > http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994 > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20160223/21b884c9/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:16:29 -0500 > From: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Wlug] Topic ideas for next meeting? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CA+r3vQh5sTuh9sBtR6dNHVtLH+TEfyBSeWb-x-CuJW3trBGA4w(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hey Gang, > > Anybody got any ideas for next meeting? > > My buddy Nick is going to be out of the country for the next meeting, so > he's yet again a no show... > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20160223/2fccfe01/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:55:58 -0500 > From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Topic ideas for next meeting? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>, Tim Keller > <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > Message-ID: <28F9BAC6-0A5A-4E33-BA96-3CA92F7C1B15(a)wpi.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > It wouldn't be a huge topic, but I could talk about the RPZ security > feature in BIND: > > https://dnsrpz.info/ > > On February 23, 2016 4:16:29 PM EST, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Hey Gang, > > > >Anybody got any ideas for next meeting? > > > >My buddy Nick is going to be out of the country for the next meeting, > >so > >he's yet again a no show... > > > >Thanks, > >Tim. > > > >-- > >I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > >constituents as "consumers". > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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Feb. 25, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Topic ideas for next meeting?

by Frank Sweetser

It wouldn't be a huge topic, but I could talk about the RPZ security feature in BIND: https://dnsrpz.info/ On February 23, 2016 4:16:29 PM EST, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Hey Gang, > >Anybody got any ideas for next meeting? > >My buddy Nick is going to be out of the country for the next meeting, >so >he's yet again a no show... > >Thanks, >Tim. > >-- >I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >constituents as "consumers". > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Feb. 23, 2016

Topic ideas for next meeting?

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Anybody got any ideas for next meeting? My buddy Nick is going to be out of the country for the next meeting, so he's yet again a no show... Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 23, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Linux Mint servers hacked

by John Platt

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols who is a big Linux Mint fan says that if you used bittorent or did not use a mirror you are safe. http://www.zdnet.com/article/has-your-linux-mint-desktop-been-hacked/ On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > I haven't read the whole story, but apparently intruders managed to > put an ISO on their servers that included a backdoor. If you > downloaded an ISO from them on Saturday, you're at risk. > > http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994 > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 23, 2016

Linux Mint servers hacked

by Richard Klein

I haven't read the whole story, but apparently intruders managed to put an ISO on their servers that included a backdoor. If you downloaded an ISO from them on Saturday, you're at risk. http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994

Feb. 23, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu, now with ZFS!

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Voorhis <mvoorhis(a)cs.wpi.edu> writes: Michael> On 02/17/2016 04:06 PM, Franklin Moody wrote: >> The only problem I've had was it getting a bit unhappy in a memory >> constrained environment.. But that is pretty understandable given >> the feature set. Michael> How small an amount of RAM are you using with your unhappy Michael> ZFS install? I'm curious to know how small an amount of Michael> memory one can have and still do a viable ZFS installation. And I'm curious how many people are running with an SSD ZiL (RAID1 please!) to speed up things on ZFS... and to make sure it's reliable. John

Feb. 18, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu, now with ZFS!

by Michael Voorhis

On 02/17/2016 04:06 PM, Franklin Moody wrote: > The only problem I've had was it getting a bit unhappy in a memory > constrained environment.. But that is pretty understandable given > the feature set. How small an amount of RAM are you using with your unhappy ZFS install? I'm curious to know how small an amount of memory one can have and still do a viable ZFS installation. --MCV.

Feb. 17, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu, now with ZFS!

by Franklin Moody

On 02/17/2016 02:04 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > I just saw an article that the next version of ubuntu 16.04 is going > to have ZFS built in! > > I don't know what you guys take on it is, but I'll likely do a clean > install to have ZFS as my root filesystem. > > <SNIP> I've been using ZFS on linux (native, not FUSE, and mostly for root and all) for a bit now on my personal machines, first on Gentoo then on Ubuntu 15.04/15.10 (and now 16.04), and I've been pretty happy with it. The only problem I've had was it getting a bit unhappy in a memory constrained environment.. But that is pretty understandable given the feature set. And for the docker using folks out there, you can use the ZFS storage driver instead of using AUFS... Frank

Feb. 17, 2016

Ubuntu, now with ZFS!

by Tim Keller

I just saw an article that the next version of ubuntu 16.04 is going to have ZFS built in! I don't know what you guys take on it is, but I'll likely do a clean install to have ZFS as my root filesystem. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 17, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Sendmail book

by John Stoffel

Eric> I'm cleaning up, and I came across my Sendmail book that I no Eric> longer want / need. If anybody wants it I'll bring it to the Eric> next meeting. Any one else a convert to Postfix? *grin* I'm keeping my sendmail book, if only for a reference when I need to debug some craziness in sendmail, but from now on I try to only use postfix if I can help it.

Feb. 14, 2016