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FW: the fix is in....

by Keller, Tim

I don't generally forward stuff to the list, but I thought that this is something that is of importance to those of use who live in the Commonwealth... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: discuss-bounces(a)blu.org [mailto:discuss-bounces@blu.org] On Behalf Of Bill Bogstad Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 8:12 AM To: discuss(a)blu.org Subject: the fix is in.... A Boston Globe article http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2005/10/25/galvin_att acks_software_proposal/ says that the Massachussetts Secretary of State William Galvin and a number of state senators are opposed to the idea of going to OpenDocument formats. You can contact Secreatary Galvin's office at cis(a)sec.state.ma.us if you have any thoughts on this matter. Check the article for other politicians you might want to contact as well. Bill Bogstad _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss(a)blu.org http://olduvai.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Oct. 26, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re: Attach File(s) problem

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 11:04:48AM -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote: > kwright> That last guy seems to be the only happy one within range of a > kwright> Google search. > > Very amusing. ;) Sounds like there's some low hanging fruit if anyone is > looking to get involved in a project. ;) Anyone that wants to help can jump right in starting here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora+Core&versio… and here: http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/debug.html To use gdb usefully you'll need some debuginfo packages: /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-debug.repo: [debug] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Debug baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever… enabled=1 gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora # yum install \ firefox-debuginfo \ gamin-debuginfo \ glib2-debuginfo \ glibc-debuginfo \ glibc-debuginfo-common \ glib-debuginfo \ gtk2-debuginfo \ libxml2-debuginfo \ zlib-debuginfo

Oct. 25, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re: Attach File(s) problem

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] Re: Attach File(s) problem; Keith Wright <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com> adds: >> From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> >> >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 12:06:32AM +0000, Ken Jones wrote: > Chuck, how >> did you know about gam_server? >> >> It is the bane of my existence. Even the latest version has issues. kwright> I had never heard of gam-server, so I did what I always do when I kwright> don't know. I typed it into Google. kwright> The first page told me that it uses 100% CPU, deadlocks, forks, kwright> loops, leaks memory, segfaults, crashes and chokes. kwright> The second page told me the same thing in Italian, French, German, kwright> Portugese(I think) and Spanish. kwright> By page 20 I had learned to curse in most west European Languages kwright> and Chinese. I don't know enough Japanese or Czech learn much, kwright> but something told me they weren't happy either. I got to the kwright> message where Google offers to repeat the search with redundant kwright> messages included and stil don't know what it is _supposed_ to do. kwright> processi che si prendono tutta la cpu sono gam_server. Un truc kwright> bizarre m'est arrivÃ©: gam_server dovuti a crash di gam_server, ma kwright> non capisco gam_server hingegen lÃ¤uft irgendwie amok procurei kwright> saber o que era esse "gam_server" Ich habe den gam_server in kwright> ErwÃ¤gung gezogen. Ein killall gam_server oder kill -9 gam_server kwright> ne veux pas lacher /media/cdrom0 proces gam_server serozhodne kwright> zlobit na procesoru (na mobilnÃm Pentiu III @ 1200 MHz) to je kwright> bug, nekolik verzÃ :-( kwright> I upgrade it with a simple: make; make install; killall kwright> gam_server It always worked fine. kwright> That last guy seems to be the only happy one within range of a kwright> Google search. Very amusing. ;) Sounds like there's some low hanging fruit if anyone is looking to get involved in a project. ;) For a description of what it does, see /usr/share/doc/gamin-<n-v-r>. From the README: ,---- | Gamin is a file and directory monitoring system defined to be | a subset of the FAM (File Alteration Monitor) system. | | The main goals of the project are: | 1/ minimize the security model of FAM | 2/ simplify the code base | 3/ provide an API and ABI compatible replacement for FAM | 4/ try to fix some other issues like resource consumption `---- -Jeff

Oct. 25, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re: Attach File(s) problem

by Keith Wright

> From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 12:06:32AM +0000, Ken Jones wrote: > > Chuck, how did you know about gam_server? > > It is the bane of my existence. Even the latest version has issues. I had never heard of gam-server, so I did what I always do when I don't know. I typed it into Google. The first page told me that it uses 100% CPU, deadlocks, forks, loops, leaks memory, segfaults, crashes and chokes. The second page told me the same thing in Italian, French, German, Portugese(I think) and Spanish. By page 20 I had learned to curse in most west European Languages and Chinese. I don't know enough Japanese or Czech learn much, but something told me they weren't happy either. I got to the message where Google offers to repeat the search with redundant messages included and stil don't know what it is _supposed_ to do. processi che si prendono tutta la cpu sono gam_server. Un truc bizarre m'est arrivé: gam_server dovuti a crash di gam_server, ma non capisco gam_server hingegen läuft irgendwie amok procurei saber o que era esse "gam_server" Ich habe den gam_server in Erwägung gezogen. Ein killall gam_server oder kill -9 gam_server ne veux pas lacher /media/cdrom0 proces gam_server serozhodne zlobit na procesoru (na mobilním Pentiu III @ 1200 MHz) to je bug, nekolik verzí :-( I upgrade it with a simple: make; make install; killall gam_server It always worked fine. That last guy seems to be the only happy one within range of a Google search. -- Keith

Oct. 25, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re: Attach File(s) problem

by Keith Wright

> From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 12:06:32AM +0000, Ken Jones wrote: > > Chuck, how did you know about gam_server? > > It is the bane of my existence. Even the latest version has issues. I had never heard of gam-server, so I did what I always do when I don't know. I typed it into Google. The first page told me that it uses 100% CPU, deadlocks, forks, loops, leaks memory, segfaults, crashes and chokes. The second page told me the same thing in Italian, French, German, Portugese(I think) and Spanish. By page 20 I had learned to curse in most west European Languages and Chinese. I don't know enough Japanese or Czech learn much, but something told me they weren't happy either. I got to the message where Google offers to repeat the search with redundant messages included and stil don't know what it is _supposed_ to do. processi che si prendono tutta la cpu sono gam_server. Un truc bizarre m'est arrivé: gam_server dovuti a crash di gam_server, ma non capisco gam_server hingegen läuft irgendwie amok procurei saber o que era esse "gam_server" Ich habe den gam_server in Erwägung gezogen. Ein killall gam_server oder kill -9 gam_server ne veux pas lacher /media/cdrom0 proces gam_server serozhodne zlobit na procesoru (na mobilním Pentiu III @ 1200 MHz) to je bug, nš§kolik verzí :-( I upgrade it with a simple: make; make install; killall gam_server It always worked fine. That last guy seems to be the only happy one within range of a Google search. -- Keith

Oct. 25, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re: Attach File(s) problem

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 12:06:32AM +0000, Ken Jones wrote: > Chuck, how did you know about gam_server? It is the bane of my existence. Even the latest version has issues.

Oct. 25, 2005

Re: Attach File(s) problem

by Ken Jones

Thank you all!! re: mozilla-mail Attach File(s) hung up my Fedora 3 machine. The culprit was gamin as Chuck Anderson had suggested. 'yum info' told me that there is a more recent version for Fedora 3. 'yum upgrade' installed that more recent version. The problem seems to have disappeared. Ain't open source grande! Chuck, how did you know about gam_server? Ken Jones

Oct. 25, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Andy I have a question...

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ken Jones wrote: > I am embarrassed to admit that I do not know how to figure this out. I > am having a problem with both mozilla-mail and evolution-mail > > mozilla-mail and evolution-mail both use the same process to "Attach > file(s)". When I try to attach a file my Fedora Core 3 machine is toooo > slow. It ties up the machine for minutes at a time. If I try to move > the GUI is smears. "top" does not indicate lack of memory or lack of > cpu cycles. > > I have not had any luck googling for others who have seen this before > me. Do any of you WLUGers have a suggestion. > > My Fedora Core 4 works very quickly. > > Ken Jones HI Ken, I'm surprised that 'top' doesn't show anything useful. I would have expected to find a CPU hog. You might try getting 'top' running in a terminal window *prior* to running the "Attach files" experiment which messes up your maching so badly. Insure that 'top' is not displaying idle processes, and that it is sorting by CPU usage (the 'i' command and the '<' or '>', as appropriate). I like to keep a copy of xosview running (its a GUI that shows some of the info shown by 'top' without the gory details). When something goes awry, I can see it immediately. I'm not sure what else to suggest since I use neither mozilla-mail nor evolution-mail (I use Thunderbird). Try Chuck's suggestion - I'll bet it works. Chuck's a "Fedora Core" kinda guy. :-) Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDXESZHl0iXDssISsRAn34AJ9vh95p5waqXppDD2OvIvvU/0JdNACfQOHa RS2Rk6R+WBGoeMsmxRM30uo= =2fz7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Oct. 24, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Andy I have a question...

by Chuck Anderson

Next time this happens, try "killall gam_server" and see what happens.. On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 01:36:51AM +0000, Ken Jones wrote: > mozilla-mail and evolution-mail both use the same process to "Attach > file(s)". When I try to attach a file my Fedora Core 3 machine is toooo > slow. It ties up the machine for minutes at a time. If I try to move > the GUI is smears. "top" does not indicate lack of memory or lack of > cpu cycles.

Oct. 24, 2005

Andy I have a question...

by Ken Jones

I am embarrassed to admit that I do not know how to figure this out. I am having a problem with both mozilla-mail and evolution-mail mozilla-mail and evolution-mail both use the same process to "Attach file(s)". When I try to attach a file my Fedora Core 3 machine is toooo slow. It ties up the machine for minutes at a time. If I try to move the GUI is smears. "top" does not indicate lack of memory or lack of cpu cycles. I have not had any luck googling for others who have seen this before me. Do any of you WLUGers have a suggestion. My Fedora Core 4 works very quickly. Ken Jones

Oct. 24, 2005