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upgrading suse 7.2 to 8.1

by Gregory Avedissian

I'm getting ready to upgrade from SuSE 7.2 to 8.1, and I have a little confusion and some questions. I'm going from 7.2 pro edition to 8.1 personal edition. Any ideas what's missing in the personal edition? Attempting to replace what is installed, I get a list of conflicts, with advice to delete the old program, even if they don't have a replacement. I was surprised to see that balsa and gftp were listed as not having newer versions. Is this because they're not on the personal edition? I know they exist, because they're available at rpmfind. The real issue - XFree 4.x doesn't seem to want to recognize my ELSA GLoria-L video card. Sax2 will run in 640x480 only, and I can't get it to run with the glint driver (the one that's supposed to work with this card). I tried doing this with the SuSE 8.2 evaluation disk, and I'm running into the same problems I had when I tried to upgrade to XFree 4.1 about a month ago. So here's the question - Can I upgrade to 8.1 without upgrading XFree? Better yet, if I upgrade the XFree, and it doesn't work, is there an easy way to return to the older version by using the CD's. Or do I have to manually back up /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11 first, and then recopy them to get back to the older version? Will the rest of the SuSE 8.1 be pissed off about using XFree 3.3.6? I suppose I could change the vid card, but I'd rather not spend any money, and since this one is listed as working, I'd like to be able to get it to work. Thanks in advance for any suggestions or ideas. Greg

Nov. 5, 2003

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: WLUG meeting, Wed 7 PM

by Al Reinhart

Andy, I can't make the meeting tonight, but thought you might be interested in the following: Novell to Buy SuSE Linux for $210 Million By STEVE LOHR The deal shows that mainstream software companies are increasingly betting on the free Linux operating system. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/05/technology/05linux.html?th Al --------------------------------------------- Al Reinhart Phone: 508.869.6417 DisCom Systems EMail: Reinhart(a)DisCom.com www.DisCom.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Stewart" <andystewart(a)comcast.net> To: "Worcester Linux User's Group" <wlug(a)wlug.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:42 AM Subject: [Wlug] REMINDER: WLUG meeting, Wed 7 PM > > HI Everybody, > > I'm sending this again since I'm not sure if my last attempt made it due to > the mailing list server problem. BTW, my thanks to Frank Sweetser for fixing > this problem! > > There is a WLUG meeting being held on Wednesday, Nov 5th at 7:00 PM in the > Access Grid room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. Directions to this > room can be found on the website. > > At this meeting, I'd like to talk about the "WLUG TV" show which was discussed > somewhat at the end of our last meeting, and again in the mailing list. I'd > like to see if we can get some roles and responsibilities defined for > interested folks so that this effort can move forward. > > Secondly, I'll bring my laptop and we can explore SuSE 9.0 together, but I > haven't had much chance myself to see all that is new and different. We can > also talk about RedHat's recent announcement about "no more RedHat Linux" and > the potential purchase of SuSE by Novell. > > Afterwards, we'll adjourn to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beers. > > See ya later, > > Andy > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Nov. 5, 2003

One day seminar on Linux for the Desktop

by Doug Chamberlin

I just stumbled upon this and thought members might want to know about it. Seminar is Monday. http://www.butrain.com/itp/desklinux.asp Doug Chamberlin

Nov. 5, 2003

REMINDER: WLUG meeting, Wed 7 PM

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, I'm sending this again since I'm not sure if my last attempt made it due to the mailing list server problem. BTW, my thanks to Frank Sweetser for fixing this problem! There is a WLUG meeting being held on Wednesday, Nov 5th at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. Directions to this room can be found on the website. At this meeting, I'd like to talk about the "WLUG TV" show which was discussed somewhat at the end of our last meeting, and again in the mailing list. I'd like to see if we can get some roles and responsibilities defined for interested folks so that this effort can move forward. Secondly, I'll bring my laptop and we can explore SuSE 9.0 together, but I haven't had much chance myself to see all that is new and different. We can also talk about RedHat's recent announcement about "no more RedHat Linux" and the potential purchase of SuSE by Novell. Afterwards, we'll adjourn to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beers. See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Nov. 5, 2003

Re: [Wlug] system time config question

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Theo Van Dinter wrote: TVD> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:56:50 -0500 TVD> TVD> On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:54:04AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: TVD> > check the reference network time (daily?) to correct the local system TVD> > time. TVD> > TVD> > I've compared a number of things between systems to try to identify TVD> > what's wrong on the one machine, but I haven't found the key yet. TVD> > TVD> > Any suggestions? TVD> TVD> Are you running ntpd? It'll keep the time updated for you all the time. Theo, Weird.... Well, I _thought_ I was... But, now, when I looked, I found that it crashed a few days ago. I restarted it, and I'll keep and eye on it. Very strange. Thanks, Bill

Nov. 4, 2003

Re: [Wlug] system time config question

by Theo Van Dinter

On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:54:04AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > check the reference network time (daily?) to correct the local system > time. > > I've compared a number of things between systems to try to identify > what's wrong on the one machine, but I haven't found the key yet. > > Any suggestions? Are you running ntpd? It'll keep the time updated for you all the time. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "It can be done better, it should be done better. But it won't be unless we complain about it." - Steve Simmons in <20020923152416.GA28800(a)lokkur.dexter.mi.us>

Nov. 4, 2003

system time config question

by Bill Mills-Curran

This is a repost -- I believe the original was lost during the WLUG server outage. I'm having trouble keeping the time correct on one of my linux boxes. Just one of them. My others are just fine. In all cases, I'm using the redhat-config-date gui. When I use the gui, it corrects the time just fine, but somethings not happening to check the reference network time (daily?) to correct the local system time. I've compared a number of things between systems to try to identify what's wrong on the one machine, but I haven't found the key yet. Any suggestions? TIA, Bill

Nov. 4, 2003

Re: [Wlug] List is back

by Bill Mills-Curran

Frank, Thanks for resurrecting things. Bill On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Frank Sweetser wrote: FS> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:41:59 -0500 FS> From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> FS> Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> FS> To: wlug(a)wlug.org FS> Subject: [Wlug] List is back FS> FS> A few days ago, the mail server for the WLUG list ate it's hard drives. FS> Luckily, none of the WLUG subscriber data was lost. The machine has been FS> rebuilt, and full list service should be restored. If anyone has any problem FS> at all with the list, please let me know and I'll see what I can do. FS> FS> -- FS> Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu FS> WPI Network Engineer FS> FS> _______________________________________________ FS> Wlug mailing list FS> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org FS> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug FS>

Nov. 4, 2003

List is back

by Frank Sweetser

A few days ago, the mail server for the WLUG list ate it's hard drives. Luckily, none of the WLUG subscriber data was lost. The machine has been rebuilt, and full list service should be restored. If anyone has any problem at all with the list, please let me know and I'll see what I can do. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer

Nov. 4, 2003

List is back

by Frank Sweetser

A few days ago, the mail server for the WLUG list ate it's hard drives. Luckily, none of the WLUG subscriber data was lost. The machine has been rebuilt, and full list service should be restored. If anyone has any problem at all with the list, please let me know and I'll see what I can do. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer

Nov. 4, 2003