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Re: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems

by Charles R. Anderson

On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 04:54:15PM -0400, Keith Wright wrote: kwright> > From: "Michael Frysinger" <vapier(a)WPI.EDU> kwright> > kwright> > If you're alsa or something, g'luck, cause i'm not touching alsa ;) kwright> kwright> Why is this? Is it personal (e.g. you have no time for it), or kwright> is there something I should know before I start touching ALSA? As to the last question: It certainly is a bit trickier to set up, but that is mainly because it isn't integrated into most distributions or mainline stable kernels. However, now that Linus has accepted it in kernel 2.5, we will hopefully see more support built-in to the distributions. Once you set it up, however, it has more advanced features. Your applications would need to be coded to the native ALSA API to take advantage of most features, but there are some other neat things you can do without specific application support, like intercept the output stream for visual effects and/or recording. Major apps like XMMS (via external plugin), xine and mplayer have ALSA support. My main impetus for using it is that the i810 AC'97 codec support in OSS/Free sucks. Both the Dell machines I've used come with this braindead sound hardware. The older Dell wouldn't do bitrates other than 44kHz/16-bit under OSS (or it tried to do them, with abyssmal results). ALSA fixed these issues for me. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Aug. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems

by Keith Wright

> From: "Michael Frysinger" <vapier(a)WPI.EDU> > > If you're alsa or something, g'luck, cause i'm not touching alsa ;) Why is this? Is it personal (e.g. you have no time for it), or is there something I should know before I start touching ALSA? -- Keith

Aug. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems

by Charles R. Anderson

On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 02:08:25PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: wallen> what modules are these? How do I load them? Just found the files are wallen> provided in a kernel package, so I must have modules installed, but not wallen> loaded! First, make sure you have the proper stuff in /etc/modules.conf: # ALSA native device support alias char-major-116 snd options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=1 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 # this depends on your sound card # ALSA OSS/Free emulation support alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss Then, the correct modules are usually loaded by /etc/init.d/alsasound. So: /sbin/service alsasound start At least that's what does it on my RH system. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Aug. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems

by Wesley Allen

what modules are these? How do I load them? Just found the files are provided in a kernel package, so I must have modules installed, but not loaded! Wes On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 14:04, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 01:53:47PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > wallen> And Mandrake uses.....ALSA...oh well, I'll find another outlet! > wallen> Thanks anyway gang! > > Not yet... > > Check if you have the OSS compatibility modules loaded: > > /sbin/lsmod | grep oss > > You should see something like this: > > snd-seq-oss 27552 0 (autoclean) > snd-seq-midi-event 5440 0 (autoclean) [snd-seq-oss] > snd-seq 43596 2 (autoclean) [snd-seq-oss > snd-seq-midi-event] > snd-pcm-oss 41540 0 (autoclean) > snd-mixer-oss 10944 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss] > snd-pcm 68192 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0] > snd-seq-device 5480 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi] > snd 36200 4 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq > snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec > snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device] > > > The 'seq' devices are the ones that run the sequencer. > > Never used devfs, but I've always had to make the sound devices for ALSA > manually: > > cd /usr/share/doc/alsa-driver-0.9.0rc2 > ./snddevices > > That will create /dev/sequencer for you, too. > > Also, make sure your sequencer is unmuted in alsamixer. > > -- > Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ > PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 > Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- This message may be digitally signed. For my public key, e-mail me a request.

Aug. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems

by Wesley Allen

No, they're not installed. perhaps I'll go look for them...hmm... Thanks, Wes On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 14:04, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 01:53:47PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > wallen> And Mandrake uses.....ALSA...oh well, I'll find another outlet! > wallen> Thanks anyway gang! > > Not yet... > > Check if you have the OSS compatibility modules loaded: > > /sbin/lsmod | grep oss > > You should see something like this: > > snd-seq-oss 27552 0 (autoclean) > snd-seq-midi-event 5440 0 (autoclean) [snd-seq-oss] > snd-seq 43596 2 (autoclean) [snd-seq-oss > snd-seq-midi-event] > snd-pcm-oss 41540 0 (autoclean) > snd-mixer-oss 10944 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss] > snd-pcm 68192 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0] > snd-seq-device 5480 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi] > snd 36200 4 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq > snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec > snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device] > > > The 'seq' devices are the ones that run the sequencer. > > Never used devfs, but I've always had to make the sound devices for ALSA > manually: > > cd /usr/share/doc/alsa-driver-0.9.0rc2 > ./snddevices > > That will create /dev/sequencer for you, too. > > Also, make sure your sequencer is unmuted in alsamixer. > > -- > Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ > PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 > Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- This message may be digitally signed. For my public key, e-mail me a request.

Aug. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems

by Charles R. Anderson

On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 01:53:47PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: wallen> And Mandrake uses.....ALSA...oh well, I'll find another outlet! wallen> Thanks anyway gang! Not yet... Check if you have the OSS compatibility modules loaded: /sbin/lsmod | grep oss You should see something like this: snd-seq-oss 27552 0 (autoclean) snd-seq-midi-event 5440 0 (autoclean) [snd-seq-oss] snd-seq 43596 2 (autoclean) [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event] snd-pcm-oss 41540 0 (autoclean) snd-mixer-oss 10944 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss] snd-pcm 68192 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0] snd-seq-device 5480 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi] snd 36200 4 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device] The 'seq' devices are the ones that run the sequencer. Never used devfs, but I've always had to make the sound devices for ALSA manually: cd /usr/share/doc/alsa-driver-0.9.0rc2 ./snddevices That will create /dev/sequencer for you, too. Also, make sure your sequencer is unmuted in alsamixer. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Aug. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems

by Wesley Allen

And Mandrake uses.....ALSA...oh well, I'll find another outlet! Thanks anyway gang! Wes On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 13:21, Michael Frysinger wrote: > umm, well, if you use kernel sound drivers, make sure > you have midi support enabled. if you're alsa or something, > g'luck, cause i'm not touching alsa ;) > -mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wesley Allen" <wallen(a)charter.net> > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 06:11 > Subject: Re: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems > > > > Yes, I'm using devf, and devfsd.conf exists, although it's mandrake's > > default. > > > > No, /dev/sequencer doesn't exist; should've checked that first. How > > would I see that it's created and bound to my sound-card? > > > > Wes > > > > On Sat, 2002-08-24 at 21:48, Michael Frysinger wrote: > > > does the device file exist ? > > > if it does, are the permissions set properly on it ? > > > are you using devfs ? if you are, did you set up > > > /etc/devfsd.conf ? > > > -mike > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Wesley T Allen" <wallen(a)charter.net> > > > To: "wlug" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 21:28 > > > Subject: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm full of problems this week. Hopefully this'll have a successful > > > ending as well! > > > > > > > > Any time I try to open a midi file, I get an error "can't open > > > /dev/sequencer" it doesn't matter what desktop I'm in (sometimes I hate > > > arts); and I can't figure this out. Anyone got an idea? > > > > > > > > Wes > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wlug mailing list > > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -- > > This message may be digitally signed. > > For my public key, e-mail me a request. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- This message may be digitally signed. For my public key, e-mail me a request.

Aug. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems

by Michael Frysinger

umm, well, if you use kernel sound drivers, make sure you have midi support enabled. if you're alsa or something, g'luck, cause i'm not touching alsa ;) -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wesley Allen" <wallen(a)charter.net> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 06:11 Subject: Re: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems > Yes, I'm using devf, and devfsd.conf exists, although it's mandrake's > default. > > No, /dev/sequencer doesn't exist; should've checked that first. How > would I see that it's created and bound to my sound-card? > > Wes > > On Sat, 2002-08-24 at 21:48, Michael Frysinger wrote: > > does the device file exist ? > > if it does, are the permissions set properly on it ? > > are you using devfs ? if you are, did you set up > > /etc/devfsd.conf ? > > -mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wesley T Allen" <wallen(a)charter.net> > > To: "wlug" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 21:28 > > Subject: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > I'm full of problems this week. Hopefully this'll have a successful > > ending as well! > > > > > > Any time I try to open a midi file, I get an error "can't open > > /dev/sequencer" it doesn't matter what desktop I'm in (sometimes I hate > > arts); and I can't figure this out. Anyone got an idea? > > > > > > Wes > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > This message may be digitally signed. > For my public key, e-mail me a request. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems

by Wesley Allen

Yes, I'm using devf, and devfsd.conf exists, although it's mandrake's default. No, /dev/sequencer doesn't exist; should've checked that first. How would I see that it's created and bound to my sound-card? Wes On Sat, 2002-08-24 at 21:48, Michael Frysinger wrote: > does the device file exist ? > if it does, are the permissions set properly on it ? > are you using devfs ? if you are, did you set up > /etc/devfsd.conf ? > -mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wesley T Allen" <wallen(a)charter.net> > To: "wlug" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 21:28 > Subject: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems > > > > Hi all, > > I'm full of problems this week. Hopefully this'll have a successful > ending as well! > > > > Any time I try to open a midi file, I get an error "can't open > /dev/sequencer" it doesn't matter what desktop I'm in (sometimes I hate > arts); and I can't figure this out. Anyone got an idea? > > > > Wes > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- This message may be digitally signed. For my public key, e-mail me a request.

Aug. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems

by Michael Frysinger

does the device file exist ? if it does, are the permissions set properly on it ? are you using devfs ? if you are, did you set up /etc/devfsd.conf ? -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wesley T Allen" <wallen(a)charter.net> To: "wlug" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 21:28 Subject: [Wlug] /dev/sequencer problems > Hi all, > I'm full of problems this week. Hopefully this'll have a successful ending as well! > > Any time I try to open a midi file, I get an error "can't open /dev/sequencer" it doesn't matter what desktop I'm in (sometimes I hate arts); and I can't figure this out. Anyone got an idea? > > Wes > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 25, 2002