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RE: [Wlug] WLUG's membership in BUG

by Stephen C. Daukas

My vote is no.

Aug. 30, 2002

WLUG's membership in BUG

by Andy Stewart

Hi everybody, Last year around this time, an organization was formed called the Boston User Groups (http://www.bostonusergroups.com) WLUG was invited to participate. As a group, we decided to pay our $50/year membership fee to participate for the first year. Some of you might remember this meeting, where the general consensus was "OK, let's try it for a year and see how it goes". Our yearly membership dues are being requested by BUG. I had some questions about whether or not WLUG should continue its participation in BUG. I had a discussion with the WLUG members who attended the BBQ. Several of those people thought that the discussion should take place among the entire WLUG membership. The timing of BUG events is such that I'd like to settle this issue before our next WLUG meeting (ideally within the next week). Take a look at the BUG webpage as you consider my comments and those of other WLUG members. Please take note of the other groups who are current BUG members. There are 3 Linux groups, a Palm group, a Mac group, and some others, not to mention the wide variety of Microsoft related user groups. Given that Microsoft is a documented monopoly (a court said that, not just me), this distribution of member groups should not be a surprise to anybody. Some of the commentary below assumes familiarity with the contents of the BUG website. My initial question (if I recall correctly) was to wonder about what tangible benefit WLUG received for its $50 expenditure. a) BUG has a link to the WLUG website on its website b) WLUG had a table at last year's MegaMeeting and gave out literature advertising the group, its meetings, etc. c) I met some leaders of other regional user groups while eating free pizza, drinking free soda, and touring the US DataCenters facility in Marlboro, MA. d) I know that we got at least one new WLUG member from the MegaMeeting. Perhaps there were others, or folks who shortly thereafter joined the mailing list, but I have no way to know for sure. The BUG website also has a calendar of group activities onto which WLUG's activities were never placed. The calendar is designed for groups who meet, say, every 2nd Thursday of the month. WLUG's schedule is not as regular as that, and hence our information was not put onto the calendar after two requests by me. Rick Zach is the current BUG president. He recently sent an e-mail to the user group leaders (attached) wherein he describes some of the benefits of BUG membership. I also have personally spoken to Rick to make sure my information about BUG is correct so that I can present it fairly to the WLUG membership. My question to WLUG is: Do we as a group wish to continue our participation in BUG for $50/year ? Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Aug. 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Re: WLUG and BUG

by Andy Stewart

On Wednesday 28 August 2002 11:23 pm, Keith Wright wrote: > > From: doug waud <douglas.waud(a)umassmed.edu> > > > > Keith Wright wrote: > > > On the bright side, I have looked at the BUG web pages > > Yes, I wrote that, but not to thw WLUG mailing list. > A discussion of events at last Thursdays BBQ among > the people who were there has leaked onto the full list. > Sorry for any confusion. > Its not a problem. I plan to start a full discussion on the list soon. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Aug. 30, 2002

Re: WLUG and BUG

by Keith Wright

> From: doug waud <douglas.waud(a)umassmed.edu> > > Keith Wright wrote: > > > On the bright side, I have looked at the BUG web pages Yes, I wrote that, but not to thw WLUG mailing list. A discussion of events at last Thursdays BBQ among the people who were there has leaked onto the full list. Sorry for any confusion. -- Keith

Aug. 29, 2002

Re: WLUG and BUG

by doug waud

Hi all, Keith Wright wrote: > On the bright side, I have looked at the BUG web pages > and they do not crash my browser (Netscape Communicator 4.76 > on RedHat 7.1 with a 2.4.27 kernel.) Just to prove I am not just a pretty face, I can note that I got and installed Mozilla 1.0 and it too does not crash. > Why do all these web-wankers think > that a six-pixel high font is such a great thing that it must be > hard coded to override my preferences? I don't know the answer but I agree that the practice sucks! :-) doug (Vulture for culture) Waud

Aug. 28, 2002

I'm not normally in favor of cracking but....

by Wesley Allen

Anyone catch this story at wired? http://wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,54812,00.html Apparently the RIAA site got cracked, and the crackers put up a fold with..."pirated" mp3 files. Ummmm, yes this is illegal (the cracking, not the creation of mp3 archives for personal use), but can you imagine a more deserving organization for this to happen to. Keep in mind, I also happen to be a PASTOR, and I think this is just about the funniest thing I've ever seen on the internet. Wes -- This message may be digitally signed. For my public key, e-mail me a request.

Aug. 28, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Stupid Hardware Clock Tricks, aka: WTF?

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 10:33:30AM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > Ok, so I got caught up after dinner ... ;) I did go and change the > BIOS settings again, around 11pm on Wednesday. The problem then stayed > away until ~4:12am on the 23rd. Just an update for those who are curious ... I decided to try reverting to 2.4.9 (actually 2.4.9-31SGI_XFS_1.1) and seeing what happened. So far, it's been almost 5 days without any issues. So far, so good. :| I just hope it's a 2.4.18 issue, so if I went to 2.4.19+ things would work. Guess I'll find out at some point. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Even the Chinese are against me. -- Homer Simpson The Last Temptation of Homer

Aug. 28, 2002

Re: [Wlug] python regular expressions

by Phillip G Deneault

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Brad Noyes wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 12:06:08PM -0400, Phillip G Deneault wrote: > > I didn't see this when you sent it the first time... > > > > There is a another way to do this. > > > > text = "FreeBSD" > > results = re.search(r'(.*)BSD', text) > > print results.groups(1) > Yes, i saw this somewhere as well. > > Question: what is the r'...' used for, and what does it mean? It denotes a 'raw' string input and add special characters accessed by the \ key. For instance r'\<html\>(.*)\<\/html\>' searches between the <html></html> tags. There are other characters too, for instance, \d only matches number digits and is the equivalent to r'[0-9]'. If you use this method, its easiest to just leave the r'' notation in. That way, everything is consistent and you can use a whole list of shortcuts. Phil -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Phil Deneault "We work in the dark, We do what we can, deneault(a)wpi.edu We give what we have. Our doubt is our passion, WPI NetOps and our passion is our task. The rest is the InfoSec maddness of art." - Henry James -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Aug. 28, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Exchange clients for linux

by William Smith

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Michelle Vadeboncoeur wrote: MV>On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Brad Noyes wrote: MV> MV>BN> exchange server for it's calender functionality. I believe it will be added MV> MV>When did Exchange server start making paper? I think you meant MV>"calendar"... ;-) we're talking about a M$ product here. don't put anything past them.... 8\ -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com

Aug. 28, 2002

Re: [Wlug] python regular expressions

by Frank Sweetser

On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 03:23:49PM -0400, Brad Noyes wrote: > Question: what is the r'...' used for, and what does it mean? "raw" quotes, roughly analagous to perl's qw/.../ -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 18 Full-time WPI Network Engineer, Part time Linux/Perl guy | "Endorsing products is the American way of expressing individuality." -Calvin

Aug. 28, 2002