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Re: [Wlug] Linux

by Keith Wright

> From: Setag Lib <bsetag(a)wpidalamar.com> > > I hear linux is very good. Is this true? He asks the Linux users group whether Linux is good! What shall we tell him? > Where can I buy it? You can buy a CD that contains a copy at the Borders bookstore on Route 9 in Shrewsbury, or various other places. I think the WPI bookstore has them. I got three or four copies for the price of a beer from somebody I met at the WLUG meeting. You can download a copy from various Internet sites. To order with your chargecard, you can use our *SECURED* web page at: http://www.cheapbytes.com (that was an unpaid commercial advertisement) I would be happy to sell you one of my old CDs for $200 (price not firm). > What is difference between RedHat and Linux? Linux is the name of the Kernel of an Operating System. This operating system was written by a loose coalition of programers around the world, and is released under the terms of the GPL and various other Open Source Licenses. RedHat is the name of a company that tries to make money selling copies, documentation, and support for free software. Here is an excerpt from the GPL, which is the End User License Agreement for GNU/Linux. GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 2, June 1991 Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed. Preamble The licenses for most software are designed to take away your freedom to share and change it. By contrast, the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom to share and change free software--to make sure the software is free for all its users. This General Public License applies to most of the Free Software Foundation's software and to any other program whose authors commit to using it. (Some other Free Software Foundation software is covered by the GNU Library General Public License instead.) You can apply it to your programs, too. When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for this service if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new free programs; and that you know you can do these things. To protect your rights, we need to make restrictions that forbid anyone to deny you these rights or to ask you to surrender the rights. These restrictions translate to certain responsibilities for you if you distribute copies of the software, or if you modify it. For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that you have. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights.

Oct. 28, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Linux

by Andy Stewart

On Friday 25 October 2002 8:44 am, Setag Lib wrote: > I hear linux is very good. Is this true? Where can I buy it? What is > difference between RedHat and Linux? > > Regards, > Setag HI Setag, All of us on this mailing list think that Linux is good! :-) There are a large number of places where Linux can be purchased including the websites for the major distributions such as RedHat, SuSE, and Mandrake. The term "Linux", strictly speaking, refers to the core of the operating system, that is, the part which "talks" directly to the computer hardware. Having this ability is necessary but insufficient to do useful work on the computer. You need programs such as word processors, windowing environments, etc, etc. There are many groups of people (including companies) who have gathered together a large amount of software (including the Linux kernel) with the hope of having enough software to enable most people to do useful work (or have fun!!) with Linux. Some of these companies are RedHat, SuSE, and Mandrake (there are many others). Groups of people which are not companies include Debian. A collection of software which includes the Linux kernel that is distributed by a group of people is referred to as a Linux "distribution". There are many long discussions about which distribution is the best. There is no correct answer, just alot of opinions. In the United States, RedHat and Mandrake appear to be the most commonly used, while in Europe, SuSE has a large following. It is truly difficult to know which is most commonly used since the software can be downloaded from the Internet and counting downloads is not a reliable way to gauge the number of users as some users might download multiple times (for software upgrades, as an example). I look back and see I've written perhaps more than you wished to know, but I hope you find it helpful. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Oct. 28, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Double Double Messages Messages

by Bill Smith

On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:34:37 -0500 Keith Wright <kwright(a)gis.net> wrote: KW> Is anybody else getting two copies of all the Wlug messages? i was getting dupes of YOUR stuff, but not anyone elses.... (FWIW, i have to confess that i was "had" (as Andy put it) by "Setag Lib" until i got to the second posting of his... THEN i read his name backwards and groaned. <sigh> i suppose this is an object lesson; i should attend more WLUG meetings, eh? ;) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com Name your salary here - I call mine Fred. * TAG! v3.1 *

Oct. 28, 2002

Building RH7.3 server after 7.0 hacked

by Richard Goodman

As some of you may recall from a mid-week email, two of my RH7.0 servers were badly hacked Tuesday about 5AM, and I lost ssh and think I received a trojan. Friday the hacking got worse - all outgoing mail was rejected as "relaying denied", so I decided to bite the bullet and format the drive and build a new server. This was made more interesting by the fact the RH7.3 wouldn't finish loading packages until I disconnected my second HD which previously held /var, and my web sites (tried 3-4 times) .. "Kernel unable to reread partition table on /tmp/hdc (device or resource busy)", then hung mid-package loading. Late Saturday afternoon I pulled the plug, and started a RH7.3 install. Midmorning I was done, including security patches and had no internet connection .. couldn't even ping from the server. Fortunately, it was just my ISP picking this time to be down for the first time in months. Now I have one remaining problem which over 8 hours of work has clarified, but not solved. For background, I have the just rebuilt RH7.3 server (A), and two other recently built RH7.3 servers (B) and (C) at a different location and each with its own static IP#, all running sendmail for one or several domains From A - incoming mail seems to be fine From A - I can send mail locally to several domain names that are on the A server From A - I can send email (such as this) out into the world Through A - I have several email addresses which are accessed by others from outside and send mail to another outside address in virtusertable or to an alias which is a list of outside addresses, and these are working From A - I cannot send mail to any of the domains at B or C When I try, I get this on the A sendmail log: Oct 27 19:02:56 bach sendmail[3693]: g9S02uO03693: from=<dick(a)goodman1.net>, size=316, class=0, nrcp ts=1, msgid=<p04310101b9e23f71eb3e(a)[192.168.1.9]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=host9.goodman1.net [192.168.1.9] Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S02uO03693: SYSERR(root): 11harvard.com. config error: mail l oops back to me (MX problem?) Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S02uO03693: to=<r.goodman(a)11harvard.com>, ctladdr=<dick@goodm an1.net> (503/503), delay=00:00:06, xdelay=00:00:06, mailer=esmtp, pri=30316, relay=11harvard.com. [ 66.92.78.250], dsn=5.3.5, stat=Local configuration error Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S02uO03693: g9S032O03695: DSN: Local configuration error Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S032O03695: to=<dick(a)goodman1.net>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00 :00:00, mailer=local, pri=60416, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S032O03695: to=root, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer= local, pri=60416, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent and this on the B or C sendmail log: Oct 27 19:03:47 boron sendmail[8627]: NOQUEUE: goodman1.net [207.224.28.49] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/ VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA The part about an MX loop seems similar to what I used to get when I first started using sendmail and would forget to configure /etc/mail/local-host-names, but this file, and access and virtusertable on (A) were backed up before the format and restored - and a make done to regenerate the db files. Here's a sample of the bounce message I get, just to be complete: From MAILER-DAEMON(a)localhost.localdomain Sun Oct 27 19:03:02 2002 Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON(a)localhost.localdomain> Received: from localhost (localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g9S032O03695; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:03:02 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:03:02 -0500 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON(a)localhost.localdomain> Message-Id: <200210280003.g9S032O03695(a)localhost.localdomain> To: postmaster(a)localhost.localdomain To: <dick(a)goodman1.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain" Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain The original message was received at Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:02:56 -0500 from host9.goodman1.net [192.168.1.9] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <r.goodman(a)11harvard.com> (reason: 553 5.3.5 system config error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 553 5.3.5 11harvard.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) 554 5.3.5 Local configuration error --g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain Received-From-MTA: DNS; host9.goodman1.net Arrival-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:02:56 -0500 Final-Recipient: RFC822; r.goodman(a)11harvard.com Action: failed Status: 5.3.5 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 553 5.3.5 system config error Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:03:02 -0500 --g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: <dick(a)goodman1.net> Received: from [192.168.1.9] (host9.goodman1.net [192.168.1.9]) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S02uO03693 for <r.goodman(a)11harvard.com>; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:02:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: dick(a)pop.goodman1.net Message-Id: <p04310101b9e23f71eb3e(a)[192.168.1.9]> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:13:10 -0500 To: r.goodman(a)11harvard.com From: Richard Goodman <dick(a)goodman1.net> Subject: Test #3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" --------------------- Does anyone have any ideas, or requests for more information? I'm not doing too well after about 24 hours, and I'd really like to solve this mystery. Dick

Oct. 28, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Looking for networking information

by Clint Moyer

Are your other PCs running Linux? On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:45:40 -0600 Pierce Barnard <pcbarnard(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >Hi, I recently acquired another pc and I want to >incorporate it into my home network. Does anyone know of >a website that has information on how to install and >operate a windows based pc on a network? And I am >looking for more information on networking in general. > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > <TEXTAREA NAME="Signature" ROWS="4" COLS="60">

Oct. 27, 2002

Looking for networking information

by Pierce Barnard

Hi, I recently acquired another pc and I want to incorporate it into my home network. Does anyone know of a website that has information on how to install and operate a windows based pc on a network? And I am looking for more information on networking in general.

Oct. 27, 2002

DHCPCD and ADSL modem

by Stéphane Purnelle

Hello, I have a ADSL modem. This modem containa DHCP server that I use. In my computer, I have dhcp client daemon (dhcpcd). The parameter of dhcp server is juste lease-time and IP adresse, but I would like to set a name of my computer and kown the name and IP adresse of other computer. If I configure a DDNS for make it, it's not a problem. How-to configure a DDNS updatefrom a dhcp server not configurable ? Thanks !

Oct. 26, 2002

noseguy text

by reavey

I'm a new member. I'm an elem. librarian in NE, Pa. near Binghamton,ny I just got approval and installed a linux box in our library to run a couple of demo programs worldwatch clock simulator and kstars. In screen saver I now run phosphores, which I have written text for using echo and printf in a bash shell. I would like to use noseguy but don't understand how it works?? I have read it likes to run fortunes, and yet when I use either the text files or .dat it won't read.Permission denial, chmod 777== can't execute binary?? Regular text files are not parsed and it deadlocks. What do you think? Should I write a program in python to parse a text file(out of my ken). There is probably something stupid I can't see TIA Re-v

Oct. 26, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Installfest

by George Metz

> After rebooting I get the lilo prompt to select an OS. I select windows > and am then presented another lilo prompt (SuSE 7.0?) to select an OS. > After choosing windows a second time, windows is successfully launched. > > This accomplishes what I need...but it would be nice to understand what > is happening so I could get rid of the second OS prompt. Obviously I > have done several installs on my system onto different drives. I have > read the man page for lilo.conf and understood only a fraction of what > it was trying to tell me. Can someone point me to some other resources > that will help me to understand what is happening during the boot process? What it sounds like to me is that there's two installations of SuSE on that machine, possibly. I use a similar setup due to laziness myself, where I have Lilo running on the Master Boot Record for /dev/hda, controlling which actual partition gets booted, then I have a bootloader like grub or lilo set up on each individual partition to boot that partition's OS. This enables me to run one disk sharing Debian and Win2K, and a second disk running Red Hat 8.0 (hdb1), SuSE 8.1 (coming soon to hdb2), and Gentoo (coming soon to hdb3). If you select Linux from the second boot menu that you get to, is it the same install that you have running now, or a different one? Either way though, it's basically a situation where there's one boot loader per hard drive that's causing it to happen. You could probably, with a little tinkering, get that second menu to go away by setting Windows to the default option and setting timer to 0, but it's probably not worth the effort.

Oct. 25, 2002

BTW

by jeff

howdy cats... i must apologize for my lack of attendance to the install fun. sheesh. life is throwing me a bucket of hell lately and i gotta move out of my apartment by the end of next week - thus, i've been quite busy. if there is anyone who would still like a copy of something new (ala debian, gentoo, mandrake) all you gotta do is drop me a line. i have plenty of extra cd's and all i ask in return is that you give me some blanks. peace guys. -jeff btw, if i haven't mentioned it already, the new debian is really slick. tight and stable. that's a biased opinion. :-)

Oct. 25, 2002