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Re: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Stephen C. Daukas

Basically, it looks as though none of the "free" CMS software applications are actually turn-key out-of-the-box. Some offer a better base to work from than others, but everyhting I have seen in the last week or so has convinced me that you have to get under the hood in some way for some reason. Not that I'm done digging, but it looks like no matter which way you choose to go, you will have to do two things: 1. Write some of your own code, and 2: Gain some pretty intimate understanding of how the chosen system actually works so you can accomplish #1. If my guess is correct, I'll end up using Perl, PhP, mySQL, and probably WML on running on Linux/Apache. ;-) I am hoping to start with a project already out there and go from there... But I'll be digging around for a little while longer... Steve Brett Russ wrote: > Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > >> By way of FYI... In all of my digging, I have found a fair bit of >> information regarding phpnuke, most of it bad. >> > <snip> > >> So, looks like postnuke has picked up where phpnuke left off? The dig >> continues... ;-) > > > FWIW, I started off with postnuke after reading similar experiences. > This was a while ago but I was not impressed with it. I "fell back" to > phpnuke and, while I am not very impressed with it either, it does the > job. > > So it sounds like Zope requires quite a bit of programming just to get > running? Or is there a default setup that offers most of what people > need in a basic CMS? > > BR

May 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Michael Long

If you are looking for a basic CMS you can check out Plone. It is a product that is installed in Zope and offers some very rich functionality "out of the box" There is also a large community that has written products for various speciallized needs. You will find bloggers, bugtrackers, polling products and many utilities that are available for implementation into your site. For more info go to www.zope.org www.plone.org I'll get off my soapbox now :)) --mike On Thu, 2003-05-01 at 11:14, Brett Russ wrote: > Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > > By way of FYI... In all of my digging, I have found a fair bit of > > information regarding phpnuke, most of it bad. > > > <snip> > > So, looks like postnuke has picked up where phpnuke left off? The dig > > continues... ;-) > > FWIW, I started off with postnuke after reading similar experiences. > This was a while ago but I was not impressed with it. I "fell back" to > phpnuke and, while I am not very impressed with it either, it does the job. > > So it sounds like Zope requires quite a bit of programming just to get > running? Or is there a default setup that offers most of what people > need in a basic CMS? > > BR > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Michael Long <mlong(a)datalong.com>

May 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Brett Russ

Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > By way of FYI... In all of my digging, I have found a fair bit of > information regarding phpnuke, most of it bad. > <snip> > So, looks like postnuke has picked up where phpnuke left off? The dig > continues... ;-) FWIW, I started off with postnuke after reading similar experiences. This was a while ago but I was not impressed with it. I "fell back" to phpnuke and, while I am not very impressed with it either, it does the job. So it sounds like Zope requires quite a bit of programming just to get running? Or is there a default setup that offers most of what people need in a basic CMS? BR

May 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] CD burning question...

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, May 01, 2003 at 10:51:01AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: subssn594> md5sum file.iso subssn594> md5sum /dev/scd0 subssn594> Right? (I think I'm getting some errors while burning.) Yes, but I would do the second one this way: dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=<iso file size/2048> | md5sum to prevent errors from trying to read past the end of the device. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

May 1, 2003

CD burning question...

by Bill Mills-Curran

If I burn a CD from an ISO, should I be able to duplicate the MD5SUM: md5sum file.iso md5sum /dev/scd0 Right? (I think I'm getting some errors while burning.) Thanks, Bill

May 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Stephen C. Daukas

By way of FYI... In all of my digging, I have found a fair bit of information regarding phpnuke, most of it bad. Forgetting about robustness of code and security issues, it would seem that many of the folks involved with phpnuke left in protest to form postnuke. The few email conversations I have had indicate three issues with phpnuke: 1. The person responsible began representing the contributing developers code as his own. This caused susch a stir that the contributing developers went to the mandrake CEO to force the issue of giving credit to the developers. (Apparently mandrake has a hand in this in some way that isn't clear to me.) As a result, the word on the street is that development on phpnuke has dwindled... 2. Really bad security holes. Examples include chmod everything to 777 in the n-1 version, to security scripts being easily hacked (and owned by user nobody), to certain pages being endowed with super-user priveledges - all you had to do was enter the URL and you were in. Some claim phpnuke is fixed, others claim there are still major problems... My recent experiences with phpnuke where I work suggest the criticism is valid. 3. The last issue is a bit fuzzy. There are those who were reportedly involved with the development of phpnuke who claim that the "author" has "interesting ideas" about GPL and, according to them, believe that phpnuke in the future may no loger remain GPL. So, looks like postnuke has picked up where phpnuke left off? The dig continues... ;-) Steve

May 1, 2003

Re: Wlug digest, Vol 1 #576 - 4 msgs

by Arturo

Cool little set of scripts. They even come with that funky Desktop icon. What a luxury! Working through the scripts though it seems that the USB system does not see the USB device properly. Looking through some posts it looks like there is light at the end of the tunnel. Kernel 2.4.21 will have the updated usbnet patch that will allow communication with the 5600. I expect I'll be able to make some minor mods to the zaurus_check script and it should work like a charm. Thanks! Arturo > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: John Murphy <jfmurphy(a)charter.net> > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Does anyone have experience with the Zaurus 5600 and linux? > Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:27:30 -0400 > charset="iso-8859-1" > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > On Sunday 27 April 2003 18:00, Arturo wrote: > > From the looks of it, 5600 connectivity through usbnet is still pretty > > bleeding edge. Has anyone out there gotten the Zaurus SL-5600 connected > > with a linux desktop? > > > > Sharp was not kind in getting compatibility with linux. Anyhow, if > > anyone has any pointers let me know. > > > > Thanks > > Arturo > > I have 5500 with Suse 8.2, sync with Qtopia running the Sharp package. Have > been using right along in Suse 8.1, just installed it the other day with Suse > 8.2. If you have trouble with Linux look at the file zaurus_check-1.0. > > http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=853 > > I would assume it could be helpful in automating the sync with the desktop for > the 5600. Obviously I don't have a 5600 but this is what worked for me with a > 5500. > > > John > > -- > Arturo <wlug(a)sedo.net>

April 30, 2003

Re: [Wlug] scanners

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Andy Stewart wrote: <snip> AS> I have an Epson 1660 Photo scanner which works perfectly with Linux and Sane. <snip> I now have an Epson 1660, too. But, I can't get sane to recogize it. - It shows up in "lsusb" - sane-find-scanner does not find it - I added "usb /dev/usb/scanner" to /etc/sane.d/epson.conf. That didn't help, so I tried "usb 0x04b8 0x011e". These were the vendor and product codes from lsusb. - I tried "modprobe scanner" and "rmmod scanner" multiple times. - I have not modified /etc/modules.conf. Do I need something? - "chmod 666 /dev/usb/scanner0" I'm running Red Hat 8.0. Any ideas? TIA, Bill

April 30, 2003

Re: [Wlug] scanners

by Andy Stewart

On Monday 28 April 2003 9:57 am, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I'm shopping for a linux-compatible scanner, preferrably with USB > connectivity. Any suggestions about models and sources? > > TIA, > Bill I have an Epson 1660 Photo scanner which works perfectly with Linux and Sane. It is my understanding that Epson has been friendly toward the Open Source community with regard to technical information, hence my decision to purchase their product(s). Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

April 29, 2003

RE: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.

by Stephen C. Daukas

That sounds par for the course... It also suggests a two-step approach for nuke: 1. use the default settings to get up and going fairly quickly, and then 2. spend some time looking under the hood and making the changes that both time and desire allow... I guess the only way to really know is to download it! Steve -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of mhughes(a)wpidalamar.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 12:20 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al. Well ... I changed how things work, so I did tinker with the php a lot. But there is a whole theme-system that's pretty in-depth. If you're willing to make a new theme, you can drastically change how things look. Of course most people don't do that and just pick a default theme, so they all look similar. Without working on it, I'm not sure how non-standard you can get for any CMS system. Any installation of a CMS will look like that CMS unless work is done to prevent that. -Marc On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > But, how much can you change things around without having to re-write > all the php? I think it is pretty easy to spot a phpnuke-based site.... > Or, is it just easy to spot a phpnuke-based site that hasn't been > customized > > Then again, I'm willing to live with some of the look-and-feel > limitations if it really is easy to get going... How long did it take > you to get going? > > Steve > > mhughes(a)wpidalamar.com wrote: > > >I've had a great time with phpNuke: > > > >http://www.geek4.com/ > > > >I've spent some time customizing it, but even without that time it's > >an > >excellent package. > > > >-Marc > > > >(ok, maybe this was just a shameless plug for my site instead of a > >useful > >response!) > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 28, 2003