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Re: [Wlug] SLIPS MA Open Source Bill

by Bill Mills-Curran

On 1 Aug 2003, Matt Higgins wrote: <snip> MH> Further more I think It would be interesting to get involved with public MH> schools in Worcester to promote the use of Linux. I put up a small page MH> on my web site to address this topic, which I have called SLIPS MH> (Supporting Linux In Public Schools). (btw.. I think the next LUG topic MH> should include LTSP! I have this working in a vmware window using just MH> one comp) <snip> Matt, Do a google search on linux education -- there are some pretty heavy-duty efforts under way to promote the use of linux in school systems. There was a report on that in /. recently, too. Bill

Aug. 2, 2003

Re: [Wlug] SLIPS MA Open Source Bill

by Doug Chamberlin

At 8/1/2003 10:09 PM (Friday), Matt Higgins wrote: >New to the list, and wanted to know what you all thought. I'm looking to >put together a bill that will require state gov to consider OSS when >sending out RFP's. The bill would mirror those being proposed/stalled in >other states such as Washington and Texas. >I have been in contact with state Rep Robert Spellane who is positive >about the subject. I believe he would be more responsive if the WLUG >were also supporting this. An admirable goal. Hard work but there seems to be some movement (as you have noticed). >Further more I think It would be interesting to get involved with public >schools in Worcester to promote the use of Linux. I put up a small page >on my web site to address this topic, which I have called SLIPS >(Supporting Linux In Public Schools). (btw.. I think the next LUG topic >should include LTSP! I have this working in a vmware window using just >one comp) Also an admirable goal. However, this one presents an even larger challenge. Looking at it realistically, school system educators (teachers as well as administrators) are the most stubborn, least innovative group I have ever encountered. There are exceptions in each school but to achieve adoption of anything which is not brain-dead simple to use is an impossibility. Linux is far from brain-dead simple to use. Better to concentrate on promoting business usage and then let the school systems lag behind as they always have - unless you are a glutton for punishment.

Aug. 2, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Linksys Router

by Matt Higgins

> Sorry for the off posts .. I have 2 clients w/ 2 configs. What I think you need to do is the following... Check the DHCP range that your router is serving: 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.254 (on my Router/Accesspoint also linksys) This info can be found on the DHCP tab of the routers web interface. This means you can safely assign address 2-99 statically on your LAN. Assuming you have not changed the internal ip of the router which is 192.168.1.1. If you assigned your server 192.168.1.1 you would have an address conflict. Give the other box with the service you want to expose on of these free address 192.168.1.10 will due. Then check the status page on the router to determine the external DNS servers and add those to /etc/resolve.conf Im not sure of you distribution but somewhere you need to set the default gateway for the server. On my wireless net the gw is 192.168.1.1 again its a linksys and should be the same. If you want to make sure run the route command. It will list your default gateway. Finally update your forwarding rules to reflect your clients new static ip. DONE! Note you should be able to access your current verizon DNS servers no mater what ip they give you. I had version and a similar config worked for me. If for some reason you cannot access those DNS servers you could run a caching name server on you LAN to provide DNS. That could be a cool Linux project to. On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 22:20, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > If you statically configure your client, can you not use the Linksys as the DNS > address? Maybe the Linksys can act as a DNS Forwarder, forwarding all requests > to your ISP's DNS servers. > > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 06:31:14PM -0400, Michael Long wrote: > mlong> rules. I would prefer to use static IP's but I am depending on my isp > mlong> (verizon dsl) provider for their dns servers and they serve me with a > mlong> dynamic address which changes reqularly.

Aug. 2, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Linksys Router

by Charles R. Anderson

If you statically configure your client, can you not use the Linksys as the DNS address? Maybe the Linksys can act as a DNS Forwarder, forwarding all requests to your ISP's DNS servers. On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 06:31:14PM -0400, Michael Long wrote: mlong> rules. I would prefer to use static IP's but I am depending on my isp mlong> (verizon dsl) provider for their dns servers and they serve me with a mlong> dynamic address which changes reqularly. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Aug. 2, 2003

SLIPS MA Open Source Bill

by Matt Higgins

New to the list, and wanted to know what you all thought. I'm looking to put together a bill that will require state gov to consider OSS when sending out RFP's. The bill would mirror those being proposed/stalled in other states such as Washington and Texas. I have been in contact with state Rep Robert Spellane who is positive about the subject. I believe he would be more responsive if the WLUG were also supporting this. Further more I think It would be interesting to get involved with public schools in Worcester to promote the use of Linux. I put up a small page on my web site to address this topic, which I have called SLIPS (Supporting Linux In Public Schools). (btw.. I think the next LUG topic should include LTSP! I have this working in a vmware window using just one comp) Tell me your thoughts ! Matt

Aug. 2, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Linksys Router

by Clint Moyer

Can you not assign static IPs to each box on your local LAN and config the Linksys router as a DHCP client but not as a server? On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 18:31:14 -0400 "Michael Long" <mlong(a)datalong.com> wrote: > >Hi All, > >I have a linksys router that is acting as a dhcp server. >The last >firmware upgrade has change the lease time options to >allow a lease to >expire between 1-99999 minutes. Occasionally one of my >boxes gets >assigned a different IP address which invalidates the >port forwarding >rules. I would prefer to use static IP's but I am >depending on my isp >(verizon dsl) provider for their dns servers and they >serve me with a >dynamic address which changes reqularly. > >My initial thought is to write a script that checks the >IP of my box and >if it has changed, use links to update the port >forwarding rules on the >router by sending the appropriate URL to the router. Any >other >solutions, workarounds, hints or feedback are welcome. > >thanks, >Mike > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 2, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Next meeting - topics?

by Andy Stewart

On Friday 01 August 2003 4:13 pm, Mike Clark wrote: > When you say LTSP - Linux Terminal Server Project, do you mean using an > emulator or Wyse terminal? If that is the case, can I offer to bring a > Equinox 16 port serial board? I do like the idea of mail server too, I run > qmail and would like some ideas on SPAM blocking. My reference to LTSP was intended to convey the idea of a diskless client (in this case a lowly Pentium 90 with 40 MB of memory and working video and network) getting its boot image over the network but running all of its apps off of a server. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Aug. 1, 2003

Linksys Router

by Michael Long

Hi All, I have a linksys router that is acting as a dhcp server. The last firmware upgrade has change the lease time options to allow a lease to expire between 1-99999 minutes. Occasionally one of my boxes gets assigned a different IP address which invalidates the port forwarding rules. I would prefer to use static IP's but I am depending on my isp (verizon dsl) provider for their dns servers and they serve me with a dynamic address which changes reqularly. My initial thought is to write a script that checks the IP of my box and if it has changed, use links to update the port forwarding rules on the router by sending the appropriate URL to the router. Any other solutions, workarounds, hints or feedback are welcome. thanks, Mike

Aug. 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Next meeting - topics?

by Mike Clark

When you say LTSP - Linux Terminal Server Project, do you mean using an emulator or Wyse terminal? If that is the case, can I offer to bring a Equinox 16 port serial board? I do like the idea of mail server too, I run qmail and would like some ideas on SPAM blocking. At 08:52 PM 7/31/2003 -0400, you wrote: >I like the LTSP topic... Perhaps we could also put on a tutorial for >putting together an email server, discussing spam, et al.? Amother >thought might be to cover the basics for security (not another >implementation discussion, but the major categories of exploits and how >they work, hence how to think about protecting your linux box against them)... > >// end random thoughts > >Steve > >Andy Stewart wrote: > >>HI everybody, >> >>I am wondering what we should discuss at our next meeting - any ideas? >> >>I have been playing with diskless clients lately. There are a couple of >>ways to do this: >> a) load and run a Knoppix CD with no hard drive >> b) LTSP - Linux Terminal Server Project >> >>If people are interested, I could give a talk / demo of some basic LTSP >>stuff. >>I've got it working between a lame P90 and my laptop server. >> >>Let me know if you have other ideas, or if this idea sounds like >>something interesting to you. >> >>Later, >> >>Andy >> > >-- >Stephen C. Daukas - stephen(a)daukas.com - http://daukas.com/ > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 1, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Next meeting - topics?

by Stephen C. Daukas

I like the LTSP topic... Perhaps we could also put on a tutorial for putting together an email server, discussing spam, et al.? Amother thought might be to cover the basics for security (not another implementation discussion, but the major categories of exploits and how they work, hence how to think about protecting your linux box against them)... // end random thoughts Steve Andy Stewart wrote: >HI everybody, > >I am wondering what we should discuss at our next meeting - any ideas? > >I have been playing with diskless clients lately. There are a couple of ways >to do this: > a) load and run a Knoppix CD with no hard drive > b) LTSP - Linux Terminal Server Project > >If people are interested, I could give a talk / demo of some basic LTSP stuff. >I've got it working between a lame P90 and my laptop server. > >Let me know if you have other ideas, or if this idea sounds like something >interesting to you. > >Later, > >Andy > > -- Stephen C. Daukas - stephen(a)daukas.com - http://daukas.com/

Aug. 1, 2003