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Re: [Wlug] Andy I have a question...

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ken Jones wrote: > I am embarrassed to admit that I do not know how to figure this out. I > am having a problem with both mozilla-mail and evolution-mail > > mozilla-mail and evolution-mail both use the same process to "Attach > file(s)". When I try to attach a file my Fedora Core 3 machine is toooo > slow. It ties up the machine for minutes at a time. If I try to move > the GUI is smears. "top" does not indicate lack of memory or lack of > cpu cycles. > > I have not had any luck googling for others who have seen this before > me. Do any of you WLUGers have a suggestion. > > My Fedora Core 4 works very quickly. > > Ken Jones HI Ken, I'm surprised that 'top' doesn't show anything useful. I would have expected to find a CPU hog. You might try getting 'top' running in a terminal window *prior* to running the "Attach files" experiment which messes up your maching so badly. Insure that 'top' is not displaying idle processes, and that it is sorting by CPU usage (the 'i' command and the '<' or '>', as appropriate). I like to keep a copy of xosview running (its a GUI that shows some of the info shown by 'top' without the gory details). When something goes awry, I can see it immediately. I'm not sure what else to suggest since I use neither mozilla-mail nor evolution-mail (I use Thunderbird). Try Chuck's suggestion - I'll bet it works. Chuck's a "Fedora Core" kinda guy. :-) Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDXESZHl0iXDssISsRAn34AJ9vh95p5waqXppDD2OvIvvU/0JdNACfQOHa RS2Rk6R+WBGoeMsmxRM30uo= =2fz7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Oct. 24, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Andy I have a question...

by Chuck Anderson

Next time this happens, try "killall gam_server" and see what happens.. On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 01:36:51AM +0000, Ken Jones wrote: > mozilla-mail and evolution-mail both use the same process to "Attach > file(s)". When I try to attach a file my Fedora Core 3 machine is toooo > slow. It ties up the machine for minutes at a time. If I try to move > the GUI is smears. "top" does not indicate lack of memory or lack of > cpu cycles.

Oct. 24, 2005

Andy I have a question...

by Ken Jones

I am embarrassed to admit that I do not know how to figure this out. I am having a problem with both mozilla-mail and evolution-mail mozilla-mail and evolution-mail both use the same process to "Attach file(s)". When I try to attach a file my Fedora Core 3 machine is toooo slow. It ties up the machine for minutes at a time. If I try to move the GUI is smears. "top" does not indicate lack of memory or lack of cpu cycles. I have not had any luck googling for others who have seen this before me. Do any of you WLUGers have a suggestion. My Fedora Core 4 works very quickly. Ken Jones

Oct. 24, 2005

Re: [Wlug] November talk topics

by Jeff Moyer

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] November talk topics; Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> adds: andystewart> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 andystewart> Jeff Moyer wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I just recently got back from Germany, where I gave two talks at this >> year's Linux Kongress. One talk focuses on the state of the >> automounter, and the other discusses the netpoll API. You can find >> abstracts at the Linux Kongress website: >> http://www.linux-kongress.org/2005/abstracts.html >> >> If the group is interested in either of these, I'd be more than happy to >> present. I could also give a quick run-down of what the conference was >> like, who to go out drinking with, etc. >> >> Slides for these talks are available on my people page: >> http://people.redhat.com/jmoyer/index.html#presentations >> >> >> If there's no interest in these topics, it won't hurt my feelings. >> Honest. ;) >> >> -Jeff andystewart> Hi Jeff, andystewart> I think a talk about the automounter would be great - honest! andystewart> Naturally, we want to hear the drinking stories also. ;-) andystewart> The next meeting is Wed Nov 2 - can you do it then? Yup, can do. - -Jeff -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/> iD8DBQFDWW6JH/inyh944bQRAqDfAJ9gp+FQBOLXYCvfJr4tX49mYJs57gCgpkZ9 0hEFRL3ZIA/QdeN1mM9WVYw= =1hVD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Oct. 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] November talk topics

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Moyer wrote: > Hi all, > > I just recently got back from Germany, where I gave two talks at this > year's Linux Kongress. One talk focuses on the state of the automounter, > and the other discusses the netpoll API. You can find abstracts at the > Linux Kongress website: > http://www.linux-kongress.org/2005/abstracts.html > > If the group is interested in either of these, I'd be more than happy to > present. I could also give a quick run-down of what the conference was > like, who to go out drinking with, etc. > > Slides for these talks are available on my people page: > http://people.redhat.com/jmoyer/index.html#presentations > > > If there's no interest in these topics, it won't hurt my feelings. Honest. ;) > > -Jeff Hi Jeff, I think a talk about the automounter would be great - honest! Naturally, we want to hear the drinking stories also. ;-) The next meeting is Wed Nov 2 - can you do it then? Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDWWp9Hl0iXDssISsRAo1gAJ9L5zPQRmhdWRI0XAmrmLkzJqFq8wCffJ+N sz06w4fHL6jAGMJGlVpoQQ0= =fT+7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Oct. 21, 2005

Re: automounting

by Carlton C. Stedman II

> I'm interested in the automounter. I would be very nice to have my jumpdrive mount when I plug it in. Also, if anybody knows udev... I managed to just set up automounting on my gentoo box, via some udev rules, HAL, D-BUS and a neat little app called ivman. Ivman will detect when new devices are plugged in and create a new entry in fstab if there isn't already an acceptable one (it'll remove the entry when the device is not connected); it can also be set up to do some more interesting things, such as integration to say start up your burning program when a blank CD-R is put in, etc. Using some udev rules (this is a great reference http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html) isn't *that* hard. You can use the program udevinfo to find out information about your plugged in devices to write appropriate rules. For example, I have a rule to link the device to a node /dev/nikon for my nikon camera, whenever it is plugged in. Then, I have an entry in /etc/fstab to mount /dev/nikon at /media/nikon, and lvman takes care of that (detects when that node is linked, reads fstab and mounts appropriately - if I didn't have that entry in fstab it would create one to mount at like /media/usbdevice01 or something). It even (usually) unmounts the device without issue (figuring out why it doesn't always). Since the serial number for each device is specific, my rule just uses that, so it looks like: SYSFS{serial}="SERIAL OF MY NIKON", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="nikon" to link node /dev/nikon to my camera. I had to use mknod to create that node initially (just a simply character device, I believe, can't remember the major/minor numbers off the top of my head). Of course you need to make sure you have hotplug installed and enabled in your kernel, as well as usb_storage and the SCSI modules (needed for the usb-storage module to work, according to kernel documentation). -- Carlton C. Stedman II, sageman(a)wpi.edu "To iterate is human, to recurse, divine." -- L. Peter Deutch

Oct. 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] November talk topics

by Eric Martin

I know udev takes care of mounting your specific jumpdrive to /mnt/myJumpDrive, but doesn't the automounter automatically mount cds and other stuff? Or am I in left field? On 10/21/05, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 11:25:27AM -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote: > > ==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] November talk topics; Eric Martin < > freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> adds: > > freak4uxxx> I'm interested in the automounter. I would be very nice to > have > > freak4uxxx> my jumpdrive mount when I plug it in. Also, if anybody knows > > freak4uxxx> udev... > > > > That's more a job for udev than the automounter. Still interested? ;) > > I just noticed that the automounter was automagically configured and > working on my FC4 system :) > > cd /net/hostname > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Oct. 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] November talk topics

by John Stoffel

Eric> I'm interested in the automounter. I would be very nice to have Eric> my jumpdrive mount when I plug it in. Also, if anybody knows Eric> udev... I've got udev tamed enough to put devices where I want them when I plug them in. Automounting isn't there quite yet, though my wife would like it. Heck, I just finally switched my desktop to gnome as a full time test. We'll see how it goes with a real desktop she can find things on. Not that I really need icons on my desktop. Anyway, in terms of writing Udev rules, the key is to parsing the output of the 'udevinfo' tool. It's a pain to use in alot of ways, but not impossible. Basically, do: lsusb plug in device cat /proc/partitions ( for usb-storage) lsusb see what changed. udevinfo -q all -p /sys/... -a | less The trick is figuring out which device to look through in /sys/. For Compact Flash adapters and such, I would just cat /proc/partitions and see what changed and do: udevinfo -q all -p /sys/block/sde -a | less and then look through things. Thne I went and edited the file: /etc/udev/rules.d/10_local.rules and added lines like this: # Cruzer USB (Thin, 512mb) BUS="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Cruzer Mini", SYSFS{serial}=="2004351271076612cf2d" , KERNEL="sd?1", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="cruzer-thin" # Cruzer USB (Thick, 256Mb) BUS="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Cruzer Mini ", SYSFS{serial}=="000062894" , KERNEL="sd?1", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="cruzer-thick" # Compact Flash Reader BUS="usb", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0700",SYSFS{idVendor}=="05e3", NAME{all_partitions}="cf" # Epson Printer R300 Compact Flash Reader BUS="scsi",SYSFS{model}=="Stylus Storage ",SYSFS{vendor}=="EPSON " , NAME{all_partitions}="epson_cf" The key was the serial number(s) for stuff, and the idProduct & idVendor (from lsusb) in terms of how to mount stuff like the Compact flash reader which doesn't have a serial number, nor did the CF cards. Hopefully this will help. BTW, I'm on a debian system. John

Oct. 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] November talk topics

by Chuck Anderson

On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 11:25:27AM -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote: > ==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] November talk topics; Eric Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> adds: > freak4uxxx> I'm interested in the automounter. I would be very nice to have > freak4uxxx> my jumpdrive mount when I plug it in. Also, if anybody knows > freak4uxxx> udev... > > That's more a job for udev than the automounter. Still interested? ;) I just noticed that the automounter was automagically configured and working on my FC4 system :) cd /net/hostname

Oct. 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] November talk topics

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] November talk topics; Eric Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> adds: freak4uxxx> I'm interested in the automounter. I would be very nice to have freak4uxxx> my jumpdrive mount when I plug it in. Also, if anybody knows freak4uxxx> udev... That's more a job for udev than the automounter. Still interested? ;) -Jeff freak4uxxx> On 10/21/05, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just recently got back from Germany, where I gave two talks at this >> year's Linux Kongress. One talk focuses on the state of the automounter, >> and the other discusses the netpoll API. You can find abstracts at the >> Linux Kongress website: >> http://www.linux-kongress.org/2005/abstracts.html >> >> If the group is interested in either of these, I'd be more than happy to >> present. I could also give a quick run-down of what the conference was >> like, who to go out drinking with, etc. >> >> Slides for these talks are available on my people page: >> http://people.redhat.com/jmoyer/index.html#presentations >> >> >> If there's no interest in these topics, it won't hurt my >> feelings. Honest. ;) >> >> - -Jeff -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 >> <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/> >> >> iD8DBQFDWQN3H/inyh944bQRAvDWAKCjgzHar2HHSf2/hwlRcWMLp4rKmACfWpoR >> X0VUV6CwwRi6Hnd+L6jVMio= =D3Z8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> freak4uxxx> I'm interested in the automounter.  I would be very nice freak4uxxx> to have my jumpdrive mount when I plug it in.  Also, if freak4uxxx> anybody knows udev... <div>On freak4uxxx> 10/21/05, Jeff Moyer <<a freak4uxxx> href="mailto:jmoyer@redhat.com">jmoyer(a)redhat.com</a>> freak4uxxx> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" freak4uxxx> style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt freak4uxxx> 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED freak4uxxx> MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I just freak4uxxx> recently got back from Germany, where I gave two talks at freak4uxxx> this year's Linux Kongress.  One talk focuses on freak4uxxx> the state of the automounter, and the other discusses the freak4uxxx> netpoll API.  You can find abstracts at the Linux freak4uxxx> Kongress website:   <a freak4uxxx> href="http://www.linux-kongress.org/2005/abstracts.html">http://www.linux-kongress.org/2005/abstracts.html</a> freak4uxxx> If the group is interested in either of these, I'd be more freak4uxxx> than happy to present.  I could also give a quick freak4uxxx> run-down of what the conference was like, who to go out freak4uxxx> drinking with, etc. Slides for these talks are available freak4uxxx> on my people page:   <a freak4uxxx> href="http://people.redhat.com/jmoyer/index.html#presentations">http://people.redhat.com/jmoyer/index.html#presentations</a> If freak4uxxx> there's no interest in these topics, it won't hurt my freak4uxxx> feelings.  Honest.  ;) - freak4uxxx> -Jeff -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 freak4uxxx> (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 <<a freak4uxxx> href="http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/">http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/</a>> freak4uxxx> iD8DBQFDWQN3H/inyh944bQRAvDWAKCjgzHar2HHSf2/hwlRcWMLp4rKmACfWpoR X0VUV6CwwRi6Hnd+L6jVMio= =D3Z8 -----END freak4uxxx> PGP freak4uxxx> SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug freak4uxxx> mailing list <a href="mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org"> freak4uxxx> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org</a> <a freak4uxxx> href="http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug">http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug</a> </blockquote></div>

Oct. 21, 2005