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Re: Proxmox!

by Gregory Boyce

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 7:10 AM William Grenache <grenache7994(a)verizon.net> wrote: > Gregory, > > Looks like Scale Computing competes directly with VxRail (VMware w/ > Dell/EMC product) and other HCI appliances - Nutanix AHV comes to mind as > well... Although, first glance - looks like you don't need and or can't use > the VMware hypervisor in any way. Can I assume Scale has a VM converter? > v2v like tools? > That's correct. We use the Linux KVM hypervisor rather than working with something like VMWare. You can directly upload vmdk, qcow2, img, vhd and vhdx, and the system will automatically convert them before use if needed. We're natively using qcow2 internally. We also have a partnership with Carbonite for p2v migrations. -- Greg

Jan. 26, 2024

Re: Proxmox!

by William Grenache

Gregory, Looks like Scale Computing competes directly with VxRail (VMware w/ Dell/EMC product) and other HCI appliances - Nutanix AHV comes to mind as well... Although, first glance - looks like you don't need and or can't use the VMware hypervisor in any way. Can I assume Scale has a VM converter? v2v like tools? We can take this offline if this isn't the thread for questions like these. Thanks, Bill On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 06:23:55 PM EST, Gregory Boyce via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, 5:03 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: >>>>> "Gregory" == Gregory Boyce via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Coincidentally, I just recently started in a support role at Scale > Computing, which provides virtualization leveraging qemu/kvm, with > their own proprietary clustered filesystem. Can we convince you to come and give us a talk? This looks really interesting! I'm open to giving a talk, but I don't tend to be free on Thursday evenings. _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/N3ZGN…

Jan. 26, 2024

Re: Proxmox!

by Cara Salter

On 1/25/24 17:44, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > Proxmox is it's own linux distro with a customized kernel that focuses > on kvm. So installing it on a box takes it over. > I've also setup a proxmox backup server and I'm doing backups of all my > VMs in 30 minute intervals. > > It *feels* a bit like vsphere. The interface is *miles* better than > OpenStack's interface. Personally, I'm a fan of XCP-NGs interface over proxmox's. I manage two clusters (one at home, one in a lab) and one thing that's stuck out to me is how clunky its authentication is. Manually syncing LDAP gets kind of old. --cs

Jan. 25, 2024

Re: Proxmox!

by Gregory Boyce

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, 5:03 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Gregory" == Gregory Boyce via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > Coincidentally, I just recently started in a support role at Scale > > Computing, which provides virtualization leveraging qemu/kvm, with > > their own proprietary clustered filesystem. > > Can we convince you to come and give us a talk? This looks really > interesting! > > I'm open to giving a talk, but I don't tend to be free on Thursday evenings. >

Jan. 25, 2024

Re: Proxmox!

by Tim Keller

Proxmox is it's own linux distro with a customized kernel that focuses on kvm. So installing it on a box takes it over. I've also setup a proxmox backup server and I'm doing backups of all my VMs in 30 minute intervals. It *feels* a bit like vsphere. The interface is *miles* better than OpenStack's interface. Tim. On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 5:03 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Gregory" == Gregory Boyce via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > Coincidentally, I just recently started in a support role at Scale > > Computing, which provides virtualization leveraging qemu/kvm, with > > their own proprietary clustered filesystem. > > Can we convince you to come and give us a talk? This looks really > interesting! > > > > Obviously I'm a bit biased since they pay me, but I have been pretty > impressed with the product. > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 10:38 AM Tim Keller via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > > Hey Gang, > > > As many of us have been watching the news, BroadCom has been > gleefully destroying vmware at > > scale. > > > I've been exploring FOSS replacements for esxi and one of those is > Proxmox. It looks pretty > > cool and has a pretty awesome set of features. > > > Tim. > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as > > "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/5JBZJ… > > > -- > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/4HGXC… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 25, 2024

Re: Proxmox!

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Gregory" == Gregory Boyce via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Coincidentally, I just recently started in a support role at Scale > Computing, which provides virtualization leveraging qemu/kvm, with > their own proprietary clustered filesystem. Can we convince you to come and give us a talk? This looks really interesting! > Obviously I'm a bit biased since they pay me, but I have been pretty impressed with the product. > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 10:38 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hey Gang, > As many of us have been watching the news, BroadCom has been gleefully destroying vmware at > scale. > I've been exploring FOSS replacements for esxi and one of those is Proxmox. It looks pretty > cool and has a pretty awesome set of features. > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as > "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/5JBZJ… > -- > Greg > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/4HGXC…

Jan. 25, 2024

Re: Proxmox!

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Stratton via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > I am using virtualbox running on Ubuntu 22.04 (not Pro). I'm using plain KVM on Debian 12 at home and it works nicely. But I want more features like live migration of VMs. So I've started looking at ProxMox as well. Also for $WORK since Broadcom is busy shooting itself in the foot in regards to ESXi. This tutorial looks quite in-depth. Haven't spent enough time looking it over, and I'd need to find spare hardware to run things on. https://www.howtoforge.com/linux-self-hosted-environment/ > I know this is not an enterprise level solution. but this seems to > do well (enough) for my personal needs. Yup, personal needs aren't as critical, but getting something to replace VMware might be key. And which is supported by Veeam as well. > I am running Windows 10 Pro as well as some other random stuff in > virtual machines. I am not a gamer. Me either! Except 'crawl', I'm adicted to v18.x of it. :-) > It has been functional/stable for quite awhile except for a very > recent Kernel Update breaking virtual box. This may be fixed since > virtualbox has automatically updated since this kernel update. I > have not updated the kernel to confirm that virtualbox works with > the new kernel. I will get a 'round tuit' when I do. I'm leary of VirtualBox for a couple of reasons. 1. It's Oracle. 2. It's not quick on kernel updates and I like to run newer kernels if I can.

Jan. 25, 2024

Re: Proxmox!

by Kevin Stratton

I am using virtualbox running on Ubuntu 22.04 (not Pro). I know this is not an enterprise level solution. but this seems to do well (enough) for my personal needs. I am running Windows 10 Pro as well as some other random stuff in virtual machines. I am not a gamer. It has been functional/stable for quite awhile except for a very recent Kernel Update breaking virtual box. This may be fixed since virtualbox has automatically updated since this kernel update. I have not updated the kernel to confirm that virtualbox works with the new kernel. I will get a 'round tuit' when I do. On 1/25/2024 10:45 AM, Gregory Boyce via WLUG wrote: > Coincidentally, I just recently started in a support role at Scale > Computing, which provides virtualization leveraging qemu/kvm, with > their own proprietary clustered filesystem. > > Obviously I'm a bit biased since they pay me, but I have been pretty > impressed with the product. > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 10:38 AM Tim Keller via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > As many of us have been watching the news, BroadCom has been > gleefully destroying vmware at scale. > > I've been exploring FOSS replacements for esxi and one of those is > Proxmox. It looks pretty cool and has a pretty awesome set of > features. > > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to > their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/5JBZJ… > > > > -- > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list --wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email towlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account:https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings:https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive:https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org…

Jan. 25, 2024

Re: Proxmox!

by Gregory Boyce

Coincidentally, I just recently started in a support role at Scale Computing, which provides virtualization leveraging qemu/kvm, with their own proprietary clustered filesystem. Obviously I'm a bit biased since they pay me, but I have been pretty impressed with the product. On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 10:38 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > As many of us have been watching the news, BroadCom has been gleefully > destroying vmware at scale. > > I've been exploring FOSS replacements for esxi and one of those is > Proxmox. It looks pretty cool and has a pretty awesome set of features. > > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/5JBZJ… > -- Greg

Jan. 25, 2024

Proxmox!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, As many of us have been watching the news, BroadCom has been gleefully destroying vmware at scale. I've been exploring FOSS replacements for esxi and one of those is Proxmox. It looks pretty cool and has a pretty awesome set of features. Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 25, 2024