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Re: [Wlug] iPhone

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jorden M wrote: > The iPhone is still far too much of a vendor-lockin device. Apple > increases their constriction on free development more with every > release. > > Which is sad, because with an open hw/sw stack, it would be amazing. HI all, I was recently given an iPod touch, which is similar (as I understand it) to the iPhone. Upon opening the box, I noticed immediately that the device is a brick. It won't do anything until it is connected to Windoze or Mac and has iTunes loaded. Vendor lock #1. OK, so my sister has a Windoze box and we un-bricked the device. Now it functions. My attempt to load FREE (as in zero cost) applications from the Apple Apps Store illustrates Vendor Lock #2. I had to apply for an account, even to download free applications. The tool refused to authenticate my account (I did not give my credit card number), so now I cannot download the zero cost applications. Go figure. I am in the process of trying to "jailbreak" the device...that is, run software which removes some of the silly restrictions. The software which runs on Linux to do this is outdated for my iPod OS version (3.1.2), so its back to the Windoze machine. Vendor lock #3. This step is in progress. Once I do this, I believe I can connect to Cydia and download truly free applications. Had I not been given this device, I would have quit a long time ago. Frankly, I wouldn't advise wasting your money on the purchase of an iPod. I agree with the previous post...it is far too much of a vendor lock-in device, which is really too bad. My 2 cents...devalued of course for inflation. Andy - -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFLzgpJOjiraCaOTOoRAmTUAJ474Vegvu07ln1ixbHMeCsKuynvdgCeO8er kirThTU4qx6JoVN+e8cjOQ4= =ioIO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 20, 2010

Re: [Wlug] iPhone

by Jorden M

The iPhone is still far too much of a vendor-lockin device. Apple increases their constriction on free development more with every release. Which is sad, because with an open hw/sw stack, it would be amazing. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Spyrek <kpoisant(a)gmail.com> wrote: > There is much development between Linux and the iPhone, is anyone else interested in this? > > On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:57 AM, wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > >> Send Wlug mailing list submissions to >> wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Help finding decent headset? (E Johnson) >> 2. Re: Help finding decent headset? (soup) >> 3. Re: Help finding decent headset? (E Johnson) >> 4. Re: Help finding decent headset? (Richard Klein) >> 5. Re: Help finding decent headset? (Randall Mason) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:57:38 -0400 >>From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Help finding decent headset? >> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >> Message-ID: >> <v2s70541d1e1004191557s40964f0cu20164ded771620e(a)mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Wow, amazing. >> >> Bose is way too high-cost. >> >> Some of these headsets have an input impedence of over 100 ohms --I recall >> having one like this which did not work. >> >> Plantronics does not show input impedence on their website. In fact tech >> sheets there are impossible to find, even with the correct part number / >> product description. Nor do their "technical representatives" have this >> available. A nice girl there will have an engineer!!! look this up & tell >> her, then she promises to e-mail me with this arcane but necessary data. >> >> I had been hoping someone here would be able to say "I have this unit, it >> works great for the purpose you specified", but it appears I'm in for a long >> stalk and not a quick ambush. >> >> So if I find whatever I'm hunting I'll be back with details. >> >> Thanks again, >> Liz >> >> On 19 April 2010 17:01, Jorden M <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Bose is generally regarded as having superior audio-quality. Maybe out >>> of your price range, though. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:31 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Do not have Bluetooth here; do not want. >>>> >>>> I make VoIP calls through the computer (not a telephone handest). The >>>> headset must not hiss, must transmit voice clearly without chopping, >>> needs >>>> to be able to send/receive some depth of sound in order to hear voice >>>> nuances. Don't need huge booming bass, just normal voice. >>>> >>>> Would like something that uses the pair of 3.5 mm jacks. Would like >>> analog >>>> sound rather than digitally-processed. Sound is already >>> digitally-processed >>>> as it moves through the sound card and sent out in packets. >>>> >>>> Someone asked for reviews here. Can't do really --some of these headsets >>>> are long-gone; the ones remaining are in the reject bin, but not labelled >>> as >>>> to the reason. At least three sets have bee given away to friends to use >>> for >>>> emergency backup in case theirs fails. >>>> >>>> One Logitech headset for VoIP (an inexpensive, behind-the-head model) was >>>> very painful above the ears. Most of the supra-aural sets are like >>> wearing >>>> little wooden blocks over the ears, lightly padded with thin foam. Two I >>>> have had to pad out under the foam phone covers. The units with >>>> pseudo-leather or pseudo-velvet phone covers seem to be padded a little >>>> better. >>>> >>>> Most of these headsets are too big (slip off) yet conversely the same >>>> headset might be too tight on the ears. >>>> >>>> Believe it or not, the best headset I ever had was the Cyber Acoustics >>>> Neckband Style Stereo Headset/Microphone AC-634, which used to cost about >>>> $11 and now costs about $14. It's too big for my head in back, though. >>> These >>>> seem to last about 6 months to a year before one of the phone or mic >>> wires >>>> breaks. owned several of those. gave up because I thought it would be >>> nice >>>> to rest my neck against the headrest here, without pushing the headset >>>> forward off my ears. One needs a large head.think neck for these to fit >>>> well, perhaps. >>>> >>>> Logitech now offers a behind-the-neck headset with a sofe(er) >>> silicone-lined >>>> headband, that people seem to like. But the review I find for this one >>> seem >>>> mainly to have been written by gamers. They have totally different >>>> requirements than VoIP users. Also, this thing is a little expensive for >>>> what it appears to be... unless it really does produce very good sound. >>> Has >>>> anyone used this one?? >>>> >>>> Although my question here may be another of my famous unanswerable >>>> questions, thanks again, >>>> Liz J >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 19 April 2010 14:50, Randall Mason <clashthebunny(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I would probably convert to Bluetooth, but that's up to you. What are >>>>> your requirements? Does it need to just need to get audio both ways >>>>> from your face to your computer, or is it a wired handset, like your >>>>> phone? I had a boss that had a Platronics Bluetooth phone headset >>>>> (Bluetooth base station plugs into a handset jack, and the rest is >>>>> wireless to your ear), and he really liked it. I've also liked many >>>>> of my Bluetooth headsets from Platronics. >>>>> >>>>> Randall Mason >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:39 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>> Going nuts here trying to find a headset I can use for long periods of >>>>>> time >>>>>> in VoIP. Last thing I bought was comfortable and worked OOB, but had >>>>>> very >>>>>> fuzzy sound in and out. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been using headsets with 3.5 mm jacks, but never found a hedset >>>>>> that >>>>>> was both comfortable and had decent mic output plus phones input. What >>>>>> to >>>>>> get? >>>>>> >>>>>> VoIP needs are apparently very different than gaming needs... headsets >>>>>> that >>>>>> gamers like might not be the greatest for VoIP. VoIP headsets seem to >>> be >>>>>> expensive for the build and/or quality. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't need fabulous quality for playing music (don't listen to music >>>>>> or >>>>>> watch movies), but VoIP must sound good on my end and on my contact's >>>>>> side >>>>>> too. >>>>>> >>>>>> ALSA is working well here, want to keep it, but if anyone can provide >>>>>> clear >>>>>> direction on other options that do succesfully work with a >>>>>> non-zillion-dollar headset, I would dearly appreciate some >>> consultation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone have experience with USB or 3.5 mm headsets in (hopefully) >>>>>> Debian or Ubuntu? >>>>>> >>>>>> TIA, >>>>>> Liz J >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wlug mailing list >>>>>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>>>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wlug mailing list >>>>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wlug mailing list >>>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>

April 20, 2010

iPhone

by Spyrek

There is much development between Linux and the iPhone, is anyone else interested in this? On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:57 AM, wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Help finding decent headset? (E Johnson) > 2. Re: Help finding decent headset? (soup) > 3. Re: Help finding decent headset? (E Johnson) > 4. Re: Help finding decent headset? (Richard Klein) > 5. Re: Help finding decent headset? (Randall Mason) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:57:38 -0400 >From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Help finding decent headset? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <v2s70541d1e1004191557s40964f0cu20164ded771620e(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Wow, amazing. > > Bose is way too high-cost. > > Some of these headsets have an input impedence of over 100 ohms --I recall > having one like this which did not work. > > Plantronics does not show input impedence on their website. In fact tech > sheets there are impossible to find, even with the correct part number / > product description. Nor do their "technical representatives" have this > available. A nice girl there will have an engineer!!! look this up & tell > her, then she promises to e-mail me with this arcane but necessary data. > > I had been hoping someone here would be able to say "I have this unit, it > works great for the purpose you specified", but it appears I'm in for a long > stalk and not a quick ambush. > > So if I find whatever I'm hunting I'll be back with details. > > Thanks again, > Liz > > On 19 April 2010 17:01, Jorden M <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Bose is generally regarded as having superior audio-quality. Maybe out >> of your price range, though. >> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:31 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Do not have Bluetooth here; do not want. >>> >>> I make VoIP calls through the computer (not a telephone handest). The >>> headset must not hiss, must transmit voice clearly without chopping, >> needs >>> to be able to send/receive some depth of sound in order to hear voice >>> nuances. Don't need huge booming bass, just normal voice. >>> >>> Would like something that uses the pair of 3.5 mm jacks. Would like >> analog >>> sound rather than digitally-processed. Sound is already >> digitally-processed >>> as it moves through the sound card and sent out in packets. >>> >>> Someone asked for reviews here. Can't do really --some of these headsets >>> are long-gone; the ones remaining are in the reject bin, but not labelled >> as >>> to the reason. At least three sets have bee given away to friends to use >> for >>> emergency backup in case theirs fails. >>> >>> One Logitech headset for VoIP (an inexpensive, behind-the-head model) was >>> very painful above the ears. Most of the supra-aural sets are like >> wearing >>> little wooden blocks over the ears, lightly padded with thin foam. Two I >>> have had to pad out under the foam phone covers. The units with >>> pseudo-leather or pseudo-velvet phone covers seem to be padded a little >>> better. >>> >>> Most of these headsets are too big (slip off) yet conversely the same >>> headset might be too tight on the ears. >>> >>> Believe it or not, the best headset I ever had was the Cyber Acoustics >>> Neckband Style Stereo Headset/Microphone AC-634, which used to cost about >>> $11 and now costs about $14. It's too big for my head in back, though. >> These >>> seem to last about 6 months to a year before one of the phone or mic >> wires >>> breaks. owned several of those. gave up because I thought it would be >> nice >>> to rest my neck against the headrest here, without pushing the headset >>> forward off my ears. One needs a large head.think neck for these to fit >>> well, perhaps. >>> >>> Logitech now offers a behind-the-neck headset with a sofe(er) >> silicone-lined >>> headband, that people seem to like. But the review I find for this one >> seem >>> mainly to have been written by gamers. They have totally different >>> requirements than VoIP users. Also, this thing is a little expensive for >>> what it appears to be... unless it really does produce very good sound. >> Has >>> anyone used this one?? >>> >>> Although my question here may be another of my famous unanswerable >>> questions, thanks again, >>> Liz J >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 19 April 2010 14:50, Randall Mason <clashthebunny(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would probably convert to Bluetooth, but that's up to you. What are >>>> your requirements? Does it need to just need to get audio both ways >>>> from your face to your computer, or is it a wired handset, like your >>>> phone? I had a boss that had a Platronics Bluetooth phone headset >>>> (Bluetooth base station plugs into a handset jack, and the rest is >>>> wireless to your ear), and he really liked it. I've also liked many >>>> of my Bluetooth headsets from Platronics. >>>> >>>> Randall Mason >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:39 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>> Going nuts here trying to find a headset I can use for long periods of >>>>> time >>>>> in VoIP. Last thing I bought was comfortable and worked OOB, but had >>>>> very >>>>> fuzzy sound in and out. >>>>> >>>>> I've been using headsets with 3.5 mm jacks, but never found a hedset >>>>> that >>>>> was both comfortable and had decent mic output plus phones input. What >>>>> to >>>>> get? >>>>> >>>>> VoIP needs are apparently very different than gaming needs... headsets >>>>> that >>>>> gamers like might not be the greatest for VoIP. VoIP headsets seem to >> be >>>>> expensive for the build and/or quality. >>>>> >>>>> I don't need fabulous quality for playing music (don't listen to music >>>>> or >>>>> watch movies), but VoIP must sound good on my end and on my contact's >>>>> side >>>>> too. >>>>> >>>>> ALSA is working well here, want to keep it, but if anyone can provide >>>>> clear >>>>> direction on other options that do succesfully work with a >>>>> non-zillion-dollar headset, I would dearly appreciate some >> consultation. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone have experience with USB or 3.5 mm headsets in (hopefully) >>>>> Debian or Ubuntu? >>>>> >>>>> TIA, >>>>> Liz J >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wlug mailing list >>>>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wlug mailing list >>>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >

April 20, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Help finding decent headset?

by Randall Mason

My wife and I did long distance for 7 months before we were married. We talked ~2.5 hours a day. I used a pair of headphones and an external microphone. It was very good quality, but you have to look in the same direction all the time. Probably shouldn't be a problem, because you would be tied to a location anyhow, but it gets MUCH better audio than any other microphone setup that I've tried. Also, you don't have the extra weight of the microphone on your ears, so it's easier on the whole head. Randall Mason On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:31 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Do not have Bluetooth here; do not want. > > I make VoIP calls through the computer (not a telephone handest). The > headset must not hiss, must transmit voice clearly without chopping, needs > to be able to send/receive some depth of sound in order to hear voice > nuances. Don't need huge booming bass, just normal voice. > > Would like something that uses the pair of 3.5 mm jacks. Would like analog > sound rather than digitally-processed. Sound is already digitally-processed > as it moves through the sound card and sent out in packets. > > Someone asked for reviews here. Can't do really --some of these headsets > are long-gone; the ones remaining are in the reject bin, but not labelled as > to the reason. At least three sets have bee given away to friends to use for > emergency backup in case theirs fails. > > One Logitech headset for VoIP (an inexpensive, behind-the-head model) was > very painful above the ears. Most of the supra-aural sets are like wearing > little wooden blocks over the ears, lightly padded with thin foam. Two I > have had to pad out under the foam phone covers. The units with > pseudo-leather or pseudo-velvet phone covers seem to be padded a little > better. > > Most of these headsets are too big (slip off) yet conversely the same > headset might be too tight on the ears. > > Believe it or not, the best headset I ever had was the Cyber Acoustics > Neckband Style Stereo Headset/Microphone AC-634, which used to cost about > $11 and now costs about $14. It's too big for my head in back, though. These > seem to last about 6 months to a year before one of the phone or mic wires > breaks. owned several of those. gave up because I thought it would be nice > to rest my neck against the headrest here, without pushing the headset > forward off my ears. One needs a large head.think neck for these to fit > well, perhaps. > > Logitech now offers a behind-the-neck headset with a sofe(er) silicone-lined > headband, that people seem to like. But the review I find for this one seem > mainly to have been written by gamers. They have totally different > requirements than VoIP users. Also, this thing is a little expensive for > what it appears to be... unless it really does produce very good sound. Has > anyone used this one?? > > Although my question here may be another of my famous unanswerable > questions, thanks again, > Liz J > > > > > On 19 April 2010 14:50, Randall Mason <clashthebunny(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I would probably convert to Bluetooth, but that's up to you. What are >> your requirements? Does it need to just need to get audio both ways >> from your face to your computer, or is it a wired handset, like your >> phone? I had a boss that had a Platronics Bluetooth phone headset >> (Bluetooth base station plugs into a handset jack, and the rest is >> wireless to your ear), and he really liked it. I've also liked many >> of my Bluetooth headsets from Platronics. >> >> Randall Mason >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:39 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Going nuts here trying to find a headset I can use for long periods of >> > time >> > in VoIP. Last thing I bought was comfortable and worked OOB, but had >> > very >> > fuzzy sound in and out. >> > >> > I've been using headsets with 3.5 mm jacks, but never found a hedset >> > that >> > was both comfortable and had decent mic output plus phones input. What >> > to >> > get? >> > >> > VoIP needs are apparently very different than gaming needs... headsets >> > that >> > gamers like might not be the greatest for VoIP. VoIP headsets seem to be >> > expensive for the build and/or quality. >> > >> > I don't need fabulous quality for playing music (don't listen to music >> > or >> > watch movies), but VoIP must sound good on my end and on my contact's >> > side >> > too. >> > >> > ALSA is working well here, want to keep it, but if anyone can provide >> > clear >> > direction on other options that do succesfully work with a >> > non-zillion-dollar headset, I would dearly appreciate some consultation. >> > >> > Does anyone have experience with USB or 3.5 mm headsets in (hopefully) >> > Debian or Ubuntu? >> > >> > TIA, >> > Liz J >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

April 20, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Help finding decent headset?

by Richard Klein

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:57 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I had been hoping someone here would be able to say "I have this unit, it > works great for the purpose you specified", but it appears I'm in for a long > stalk and not a quick ambush. I've never been crazy about chatting or talking on the phone any more than necessary. My girlfriend, before I moved in with her, wanted to chat online, so I picked up the cheapest headset I could find. What I often ended up doing was placing the headset on the desk with the microphone facing me, and wearing my wireless circumaural Sony headphones. You might want to consider separate headphones and microphone. ecost.com often has cheap deals on refurbished wireless headphones. My Sony's aren't perfect, but they beat my previous RCA set by a mile. -- Rich

April 20, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Help finding decent headset?

by E Johnson

I think I will try the Altec Lansing AHS302USB headset. Was able to find a detailed review that makes this unit look reasonable http://www.legitreviews.com/article/314/1/ Thanks again, Liz

April 20, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Help finding decent headset?

by soup

I've got a Logitech set that's very good. The mic is clear and the phones are OK. They're not exactly sennheissers with regards to comfort, but I can wear them for a few hours before taking a break. It was $20 at target, iirc. No clue what the model number was. It's also got mic on/off and volume on the cord. Good luck, soup

April 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Help finding decent headset?

by E Johnson

Wow, amazing. Bose is way too high-cost. Some of these headsets have an input impedence of over 100 ohms --I recall having one like this which did not work. Plantronics does not show input impedence on their website. In fact tech sheets there are impossible to find, even with the correct part number / product description. Nor do their "technical representatives" have this available. A nice girl there will have an engineer!!! look this up & tell her, then she promises to e-mail me with this arcane but necessary data. I had been hoping someone here would be able to say "I have this unit, it works great for the purpose you specified", but it appears I'm in for a long stalk and not a quick ambush. So if I find whatever I'm hunting I'll be back with details. Thanks again, Liz On 19 April 2010 17:01, Jorden M <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Bose is generally regarded as having superior audio-quality. Maybe out > of your price range, though. > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:31 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Do not have Bluetooth here; do not want. > > > > I make VoIP calls through the computer (not a telephone handest). The > > headset must not hiss, must transmit voice clearly without chopping, > needs > > to be able to send/receive some depth of sound in order to hear voice > > nuances. Don't need huge booming bass, just normal voice. > > > > Would like something that uses the pair of 3.5 mm jacks. Would like > analog > > sound rather than digitally-processed. Sound is already > digitally-processed > > as it moves through the sound card and sent out in packets. > > > > Someone asked for reviews here. Can't do really --some of these headsets > > are long-gone; the ones remaining are in the reject bin, but not labelled > as > > to the reason. At least three sets have bee given away to friends to use > for > > emergency backup in case theirs fails. > > > > One Logitech headset for VoIP (an inexpensive, behind-the-head model) was > > very painful above the ears. Most of the supra-aural sets are like > wearing > > little wooden blocks over the ears, lightly padded with thin foam. Two I > > have had to pad out under the foam phone covers. The units with > > pseudo-leather or pseudo-velvet phone covers seem to be padded a little > > better. > > > > Most of these headsets are too big (slip off) yet conversely the same > > headset might be too tight on the ears. > > > > Believe it or not, the best headset I ever had was the Cyber Acoustics > > Neckband Style Stereo Headset/Microphone AC-634, which used to cost about > > $11 and now costs about $14. It's too big for my head in back, though. > These > > seem to last about 6 months to a year before one of the phone or mic > wires > > breaks. owned several of those. gave up because I thought it would be > nice > > to rest my neck against the headrest here, without pushing the headset > > forward off my ears. One needs a large head.think neck for these to fit > > well, perhaps. > > > > Logitech now offers a behind-the-neck headset with a sofe(er) > silicone-lined > > headband, that people seem to like. But the review I find for this one > seem > > mainly to have been written by gamers. They have totally different > > requirements than VoIP users. Also, this thing is a little expensive for > > what it appears to be... unless it really does produce very good sound. > Has > > anyone used this one?? > > > > Although my question here may be another of my famous unanswerable > > questions, thanks again, > > Liz J > > > > > > > > > > On 19 April 2010 14:50, Randall Mason <clashthebunny(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> I would probably convert to Bluetooth, but that's up to you. What are > >> your requirements? Does it need to just need to get audio both ways > >> from your face to your computer, or is it a wired handset, like your > >> phone? I had a boss that had a Platronics Bluetooth phone headset > >> (Bluetooth base station plugs into a handset jack, and the rest is > >> wireless to your ear), and he really liked it. I've also liked many > >> of my Bluetooth headsets from Platronics. > >> > >> Randall Mason > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:39 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > Going nuts here trying to find a headset I can use for long periods of > >> > time > >> > in VoIP. Last thing I bought was comfortable and worked OOB, but had > >> > very > >> > fuzzy sound in and out. > >> > > >> > I've been using headsets with 3.5 mm jacks, but never found a hedset > >> > that > >> > was both comfortable and had decent mic output plus phones input. What > >> > to > >> > get? > >> > > >> > VoIP needs are apparently very different than gaming needs... headsets > >> > that > >> > gamers like might not be the greatest for VoIP. VoIP headsets seem to > be > >> > expensive for the build and/or quality. > >> > > >> > I don't need fabulous quality for playing music (don't listen to music > >> > or > >> > watch movies), but VoIP must sound good on my end and on my contact's > >> > side > >> > too. > >> > > >> > ALSA is working well here, want to keep it, but if anyone can provide > >> > clear > >> > direction on other options that do succesfully work with a > >> > non-zillion-dollar headset, I would dearly appreciate some > consultation. > >> > > >> > Does anyone have experience with USB or 3.5 mm headsets in (hopefully) > >> > Debian or Ubuntu? > >> > > >> > TIA, > >> > Liz J > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wlug mailing list > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wlug mailing list > >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Help finding decent headset?

by Jorden M

Bose is generally regarded as having superior audio-quality. Maybe out of your price range, though. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:31 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Do not have Bluetooth here; do not want. > > I make VoIP calls through the computer (not a telephone handest). The > headset must not hiss, must transmit voice clearly without chopping, needs > to be able to send/receive some depth of sound in order to hear voice > nuances. Don't need huge booming bass, just normal voice. > > Would like something that uses the pair of 3.5 mm jacks. Would like analog > sound rather than digitally-processed. Sound is already digitally-processed > as it moves through the sound card and sent out in packets. > > Someone asked for reviews here. Can't do really --some of these headsets > are long-gone; the ones remaining are in the reject bin, but not labelled as > to the reason. At least three sets have bee given away to friends to use for > emergency backup in case theirs fails. > > One Logitech headset for VoIP (an inexpensive, behind-the-head model) was > very painful above the ears. Most of the supra-aural sets are like wearing > little wooden blocks over the ears, lightly padded with thin foam. Two I > have had to pad out under the foam phone covers. The units with > pseudo-leather or pseudo-velvet phone covers seem to be padded a little > better. > > Most of these headsets are too big (slip off) yet conversely the same > headset might be too tight on the ears. > > Believe it or not, the best headset I ever had was the Cyber Acoustics > Neckband Style Stereo Headset/Microphone AC-634, which used to cost about > $11 and now costs about $14. It's too big for my head in back, though. These > seem to last about 6 months to a year before one of the phone or mic wires > breaks. owned several of those. gave up because I thought it would be nice > to rest my neck against the headrest here, without pushing the headset > forward off my ears. One needs a large head.think neck for these to fit > well, perhaps. > > Logitech now offers a behind-the-neck headset with a sofe(er) silicone-lined > headband, that people seem to like. But the review I find for this one seem > mainly to have been written by gamers. They have totally different > requirements than VoIP users. Also, this thing is a little expensive for > what it appears to be... unless it really does produce very good sound. Has > anyone used this one?? > > Although my question here may be another of my famous unanswerable > questions, thanks again, > Liz J > > > > > On 19 April 2010 14:50, Randall Mason <clashthebunny(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I would probably convert to Bluetooth, but that's up to you. What are >> your requirements? Does it need to just need to get audio both ways >> from your face to your computer, or is it a wired handset, like your >> phone? I had a boss that had a Platronics Bluetooth phone headset >> (Bluetooth base station plugs into a handset jack, and the rest is >> wireless to your ear), and he really liked it. I've also liked many >> of my Bluetooth headsets from Platronics. >> >> Randall Mason >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:39 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Going nuts here trying to find a headset I can use for long periods of >> > time >> > in VoIP. Last thing I bought was comfortable and worked OOB, but had >> > very >> > fuzzy sound in and out. >> > >> > I've been using headsets with 3.5 mm jacks, but never found a hedset >> > that >> > was both comfortable and had decent mic output plus phones input. What >> > to >> > get? >> > >> > VoIP needs are apparently very different than gaming needs... headsets >> > that >> > gamers like might not be the greatest for VoIP. VoIP headsets seem to be >> > expensive for the build and/or quality. >> > >> > I don't need fabulous quality for playing music (don't listen to music >> > or >> > watch movies), but VoIP must sound good on my end and on my contact's >> > side >> > too. >> > >> > ALSA is working well here, want to keep it, but if anyone can provide >> > clear >> > direction on other options that do succesfully work with a >> > non-zillion-dollar headset, I would dearly appreciate some consultation. >> > >> > Does anyone have experience with USB or 3.5 mm headsets in (hopefully) >> > Debian or Ubuntu? >> > >> > TIA, >> > Liz J >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

April 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Help finding decent headset?

by E Johnson

Do not have Bluetooth here; do not want. I make VoIP calls through the computer (not a telephone handest). The headset must not hiss, must transmit voice clearly without chopping, needs to be able to send/receive some depth of sound in order to hear voice nuances. Don't need huge booming bass, just normal voice. Would like something that uses the pair of 3.5 mm jacks. Would like analog sound rather than digitally-processed. Sound is already digitally-processed as it moves through the sound card and sent out in packets. Someone asked for reviews here. Can't do really --some of these headsets are long-gone; the ones remaining are in the reject bin, but not labelled as to the reason. At least three sets have bee given away to friends to use for emergency backup in case theirs fails. One Logitech headset for VoIP (an inexpensive, behind-the-head model) was very painful above the ears. Most of the supra-aural sets are like wearing little wooden blocks over the ears, lightly padded with thin foam. Two I have had to pad out under the foam phone covers. The units with pseudo-leather or pseudo-velvet phone covers seem to be padded a little better. Most of these headsets are too big (slip off) yet conversely the same headset might be too tight on the ears. Believe it or not, the best headset I ever had was the Cyber Acoustics Neckband Style Stereo Headset/Microphone AC-634, which used to cost about $11 and now costs about $14. It's too big for my head in back, though. These seem to last about 6 months to a year before one of the phone or mic wires breaks. owned several of those. gave up because I thought it would be nice to rest my neck against the headrest here, without pushing the headset forward off my ears. One needs a large head.think neck for these to fit well, perhaps. Logitech now offers a behind-the-neck headset with a sofe(er) silicone-lined headband, that people seem to like. But the review I find for this one seem mainly to have been written by gamers. They have totally different requirements than VoIP users. Also, this thing is a little expensive for what it appears to be... unless it really does produce very good sound. Has anyone used this one?? Although my question here may be another of my famous unanswerable questions, thanks again, Liz J On 19 April 2010 14:50, Randall Mason <clashthebunny(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I would probably convert to Bluetooth, but that's up to you. What are > your requirements? Does it need to just need to get audio both ways > from your face to your computer, or is it a wired handset, like your > phone? I had a boss that had a Platronics Bluetooth phone headset > (Bluetooth base station plugs into a handset jack, and the rest is > wireless to your ear), and he really liked it. I've also liked many > of my Bluetooth headsets from Platronics. > > Randall Mason > > > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:39 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Going nuts here trying to find a headset I can use for long periods of > time > > in VoIP. Last thing I bought was comfortable and worked OOB, but had very > > fuzzy sound in and out. > > > > I've been using headsets with 3.5 mm jacks, but never found a hedset that > > was both comfortable and had decent mic output plus phones input. What to > > get? > > > > VoIP needs are apparently very different than gaming needs... headsets > that > > gamers like might not be the greatest for VoIP. VoIP headsets seem to be > > expensive for the build and/or quality. > > > > I don't need fabulous quality for playing music (don't listen to music or > > watch movies), but VoIP must sound good on my end and on my contact's > side > > too. > > > > ALSA is working well here, want to keep it, but if anyone can provide > clear > > direction on other options that do succesfully work with a > > non-zillion-dollar headset, I would dearly appreciate some consultation. > > > > Does anyone have experience with USB or 3.5 mm headsets in (hopefully) > > Debian or Ubuntu? > > > > TIA, > > Liz J > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 19, 2010