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Re: [Wlug] Need a bigger ULTRA1 disk

by Justin St. Marie

I believe the UltraSPARCs were SCSI disks. You can probably find some of those on ebay real cheap. I could be wrong, though....and judging from the mails over the last few days I bet other people here will be able to correct that. Might as well take this time to introduce myself... My name is Justin St. Marie. I live in Worcester and have been using linux for years, but only for about a year professionally. I do what I can, but I am far from an expert in any *nix environment. I am a RHCT, hopefully able to pass the RHCE in a few months...we'll see... When is the next meeting? The website only said where it was, that I saw. On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Hello again, > > I have down loaded the six CD Fedora-12-sparc-beta-disc.iso set. It > appears to be about 3.4 Gig. That is about the size of the hard drive on > which I had hoped to install it. > > Anybody know where I could get a bigger ULTRA sparc64 compatible hard > drive? > > Ken > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15020) > http://www.pctools.com<http://www.pctools.com/?cclick=EmailFooterClean_51> > ======= > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Justin St. Marie, RHCT Systems Engineer

May 21, 2010

Need a bigger ULTRA1 disk

by Ken Jones

Hello again, I have down loaded the six CD Fedora-12-sparc-beta-disc.iso set. It appears to be about 3.4 Gig. That is about the size of the hard drive on which I had hoped to install it. Anybody know where I could get a bigger ULTRA sparc64 compatible hard drive? Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15020) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 21, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by Richard Klein

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:38 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: >>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Klein <richspk(a)gmail.com> writes: > > Richard> I think DEC had a big facility along route 70 in Lancaster > Richard> (near route 2) that was sold to Mass. Youth Soccer. That's > Richard> right near Leominster. > > Umm... Rt 70 runs from Worcester out to Clinton and beyond. The > facility you're thinking about is in Boylston, and it now the town > hall, etc. > > Now I know this 'cause I live in Boylston. :] Heh. I live in Clinton. Route 70 does, in fact, run through Lancaster, where it's also called Lunenburg Rd. It's right by Norm Wagner Toyota: http://maps.google.com/maps?cid=0,0,5185522724830873118 (I elided the bits of the URL that I though were irrelevant. It still works for me, but may not for you.) I guess Lancaster would be part of "beyond". :) -- Rich

May 20, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Progress - hardware issues...

by Mike Frysinger

On Thursday 13 May 2010 17:00:28 Ken Jones wrote: > I fail to see the difference between the minimal and the universal versions > once they are installed. that's because there is no difference just like the documentation explains: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-sparc.xml?part=1&chap=2 -mike

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by Jorden M

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Gary Hanley <gary(a)hanley.net> wrote: > Doug C. Says, > >> Yes, VMS rocked. Best OS ever, IMO. > > Naa. AOS/VS wiped the floor with VMS. ;-) Plan 9 > * Too bad it can hardly browse the web. > > But really, those OSes were great at the time but I can't image ever > wanting to return to them. Linux and any UNIX is just so much more > efficient, functional and fun. > > -- Gary > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by Gary Hanley

Doug C. Says, > Yes, VMS rocked. Best OS ever, IMO. Naa. AOS/VS wiped the floor with VMS. ;-) But really, those OSes were great at the time but I can't image ever wanting to return to them. Linux and any UNIX is just so much more efficient, functional and fun. -- Gary

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Klein <richspk(a)gmail.com> writes: Richard> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:28 PM, David Hardy <belovedbold357(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I don't have any old DEC equipment anymore, but I started my so-called IT >> career on a PDP-11 out in gorgeous Gardner, MA back in 1986. It ran RSX for >> an engineering CAD/CAM shop and we also had a VAX 780 running VMS 3.5. Last >> version of VMS I've worked with was 7.1, right here in Wormtown. I love >> Linux but I have to say I also was in love with VMS. >> Rumor had it, back in '89, that there was a field somewhere off Route 12 in >> Leominster, where DEC had dumped loads and loads of equipment, including >> computers, printers, cables, you-name-it. One of my operators when I was a >> sys admin at DEC Marlborough at that time had his front yard filled with >> that stuff, and the weather allegedly had no effect on any of it. >> I would imagine by now that the field, if it ever existed, is now a condo >> development or a semi-abandoned strip mall. >> Cheers from South Woostuh! Richard> I think DEC had a big facility along route 70 in Lancaster Richard> (near route 2) that was sold to Mass. Youth Soccer. That's Richard> right near Leominster. Umm... Rt 70 runs from Worcester out to Clinton and beyond. The facility you're thinking about is in Boylston, and it now the town hall, etc. Now I know this 'cause I live in Boylston. :]

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by Doug Chamberlin

On 5/19/2010 2:02 PM, Adam Gomes wrote: > I too retain a fondness for VMS. Which is why, even though I had > Debian running on my VaxStation 3100, I still went back to OpenVMS > (despite the need to buy an annual software license). Yes, VMS rocked. Best OS ever, IMO. Based on energy inefficiency alone I just cannot justify firing up one of these machines to run it. I sure wish HP would stop with the Itanium-only strategy and come out with a version running on AMD-64 chips! I'd get a hobbiest license if they did that. -- Doug C. ----- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by Adam Gomes

I too retain a fondness for VMS. Which is why, even though I had Debian running on my VaxStation 3100, I still went back to OpenVMS (despite the need to buy an annual software license). On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:28 PM, David Hardy <belovedbold357(a)gmail.com>wrote: > I don't have any old DEC equipment anymore, but I started my so-called IT > career on a PDP-11 out in gorgeous Gardner, MA back in 1986. It ran RSX for > an engineering CAD/CAM shop and we also had a VAX 780 running VMS 3.5. Last > version of VMS I've worked with was 7.1, right here in Wormtown. I love > Linux but I have to say I also was in love with VMS. > > Rumor had it, back in '89, that there was a field somewhere off Route 12 in > Leominster, where DEC had dumped loads and loads of equipment, including > computers, printers, cables, you-name-it. One of my operators when I was a > sys admin at DEC Marlborough at that time had his front yard filled with > that stuff, and the weather allegedly had no effect on any of it. > > I would imagine by now that the field, if it ever existed, is now a condo > development or a semi-abandoned strip mall. > > Cheers from South Woostuh! > > > > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > >> Send Wlug mailing list submissions to >> wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Success - antique linux on antique SPARC (Ken Jones) >> 2. Re: Success - antique linux on antique SPARC (Jorden Mauro) >> 3. Re: Success - antique linux on antique SPARC (Doug Chamberlin) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 22:02:40 -0400 >> From: "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)ziplink.net> >> Subject: [Wlug] Success - antique linux on antique SPARC >> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >> Message-ID: <94F4CAE4ED0C4AC0BB1660AF1C3A9586@kjonespc> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> I tried and tried. I fdisk'd. I setenv'd boot-device. I tried to study >> and learn. GENTOO just would not stick. >> >> I found in my CD pile a five disk set of AURORA 2.4.20-2.3sparc64 dated >> Jan 15, 2003. It installed. It does KDE. I can see all my old "lost" >> files. Hurray!! >> >> Anybody have a DEC PDP10 for us senior citizens to play with? >> >> Ken Jones >> >> >> >> ======= >> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14960) >> http://www.pctools.com/ >> ======= >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20100518/2c82159f/attachmen… >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 07:35:45 -0400 >> From: Jorden Mauro <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Success - antique linux on antique SPARC >> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >> Cc: "<wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >> Message-ID: <52DB5519-B9DE-47AE-9DC6-FE7E2899906A(a)gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> On May 18, 2010, at 10:02 PM, "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: >> >> > I tried and tried. I fdisk'd. I setenv'd boot-device. I tried to >> > study and learn. GENTOO just would not stick. >> > >> > I found in my CD pile a five disk set of AURORA 2.4.20-2.3sparc64 >> > dated Jan 15, 2003. It installed. It does KDE. I can see all my >> > old "lost" files. Hurray!! >> > >> > Anybody have a DEC PDP10 for us senior citizens to play with? >> >> 'fraid even the computer history museum is still looking for parts to >> get one that can boot. >> >> You can run v7 Unix in a special pdp11 VM for old time sake, though. >> It even has a working version of Ken's chess. >> >> If anyone knows PDP assembly, I'd love to see that program ported into >> the 21st century. >> >> > >> > Ken Jones >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ======= >> > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14960) >> > http://www.pctools.com >> > ======= >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20100519/0644a5bb/attachmen… >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:09:12 -0400 >> From: Doug Chamberlin <dougchamberlin(a)earthlink.net> >> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Success - antique linux on antique SPARC >> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> Message-ID: <4BF3D4E8.9080303(a)earthlink.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> On 5/18/2010 10:02 PM, Ken Jones wrote: >> > Anybody have a DEC PDP10 for us senior citizens to play with? >> No, but I have two Dec Alpha systems looking for a good home. >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20100519/9ba9f378/attachmen… >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> End of Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9 >> *********************************** >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 19, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

by Richard Klein

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:28 PM, David Hardy <belovedbold357(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I don't have any old DEC equipment anymore, but I started my so-called IT > career on a PDP-11 out in gorgeous Gardner, MA back in 1986. It ran RSX for > an engineering CAD/CAM shop and we also had a VAX 780 running VMS 3.5. Last > version of VMS I've worked with was 7.1, right here in Wormtown. I love > Linux but I have to say I also was in love with VMS. > Rumor had it, back in '89, that there was a field somewhere off Route 12 in > Leominster, where DEC had dumped loads and loads of equipment, including > computers, printers, cables, you-name-it. One of my operators when I was a > sys admin at DEC Marlborough at that time had his front yard filled with > that stuff, and the weather allegedly had no effect on any of it. > I would imagine by now that the field, if it ever existed, is now a condo > development or a semi-abandoned strip mall. > Cheers from South Woostuh! I think DEC had a big facility along route 70 in Lancaster (near route 2) that was sold to Mass. Youth Soccer. That's right near Leominster. -- Rich

May 19, 2010