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Corrigendum

by Keith Wright

> "Here's your AI. Pay the monthly bill to retain your licence to use > it. Any attempt to try to find out what it does or how it works will > be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law of Connecticut."? Correction: Delaware. It's just a joke, but it's been bothering me that I fumbled the punchline. I checked to make sure I spelled the state right, but forgot that Delaware is where corporations go when they want to buy a government. > Nvidia Corporation is an American multinational corporation and > technology company headquartered in Santa Clara, California, and > incorporated in Delaware. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia Strange coincidence. Just an unincorporated person, -- Keith

June 7, 2024

Re: We've got a meeting next week on the 13th!

by soup

Are there any shipping ARM boards/chips for the consumer market? Quick look just shows a few ATX server boards with, relatively, ancient ARMs bundled. The stuff Apple is shipping has the same T2 "problem" the later intel machines have with running linux, it's kind of a pain, delicate, and ruins the point of having the hardware security in the first place. It'd be amazing if they'd work on 1st party support but considering their business model I don't see that ever happening. On the server side, I'm loving ARM. I saw the revolution coming back when AWS Graviton was first announced. Pushed a lot of things at work over early. With go binaries it's as simple as a compile flag. Graviton2 offerings were ~1/3 off the equivalent intel machines for EC2, similar discount for lambda. For some of our workloads they were faster than intel too. Haven't had occasion to test the grav3 stuff but I imagine it's better still. If you've got things in interpreted language, go, or projects that have been cross-arch and stable a while- mariadb, postgresql, nginx, et al., definitely would suggest seeing how it'd work for you. --- soup On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 12:20 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Keith, > > It wasn't just you. It seems that it maxes out at some low number of > users.. why.. worth investigating, but not at the expense of people being > able to get into the meeting. > > Yeah, ARM for linux has been the "hotness" for a while. Pi definitely > brought it to the forefront, but now more and more there are viable arm > desktops. > > As for the AI, there are some FOSS solutions out there that are shockingly > amazing. "ollama" is just one of them. > No need to pay NVidia for AMD for the privilege. > > Tim. > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 1:58 PM Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: > >> Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> >> > We've got a meeting next week! Note, I won't be using our own Jitsi >> server >> > but going to back to the old one since we've had so many issues. >> >> I think part of the problem was with my micophone to webserver >> interface. >> >> At this point I am thinking of this more as a test than a meeting, >> but I plan to do it. >> >> > If there's a topic that people would like us to tackle, I'd be up for >> it! >> >> I haven't been paying a lot of attention to the latest hardware, but >> the radio said something about ARM processor that caught my attention. >> ARM means rasberry pi means Linux, no? Wikipedia has an enormous >> article (the Citations alone are 11 pages two column) but the last >> thing on the page seems to say that Wine is no longer for playing >> Windows games on Linux, but that MS needs it to prop up the ass end >> of their sorry operating system. Is the monopoly gone? >> >> The radio also speaks of Nvidia. They sell those Invidious graphics >> cards. The ones that need special secret drivers that only work if >> you have the right *.dll? It seems that everyone now needs them to >> do Artifical Intelligence (all rise). Have they changed their attitude, >> or is it like: "Here's your AI. Pay the monthly bill to retain your >> licence to use it. Any attempt to try to find out what it does or >> how it works will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law of >> Connecticut."? >> >> -- Keith >> >> > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/K35PA… >

June 7, 2024

Re: We've got a meeting next week on the 13th!

by Tim Keller

Keith, It wasn't just you. It seems that it maxes out at some low number of users.. why.. worth investigating, but not at the expense of people being able to get into the meeting. Yeah, ARM for linux has been the "hotness" for a while. Pi definitely brought it to the forefront, but now more and more there are viable arm desktops. As for the AI, there are some FOSS solutions out there that are shockingly amazing. "ollama" is just one of them. No need to pay NVidia for AMD for the privilege. Tim. On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 1:58 PM Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: > Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > We've got a meeting next week! Note, I won't be using our own Jitsi > server > > but going to back to the old one since we've had so many issues. > > I think part of the problem was with my micophone to webserver > interface. > > At this point I am thinking of this more as a test than a meeting, > but I plan to do it. > > > If there's a topic that people would like us to tackle, I'd be up for it! > > I haven't been paying a lot of attention to the latest hardware, but > the radio said something about ARM processor that caught my attention. > ARM means rasberry pi means Linux, no? Wikipedia has an enormous > article (the Citations alone are 11 pages two column) but the last > thing on the page seems to say that Wine is no longer for playing > Windows games on Linux, but that MS needs it to prop up the ass end > of their sorry operating system. Is the monopoly gone? > > The radio also speaks of Nvidia. They sell those Invidious graphics > cards. The ones that need special secret drivers that only work if > you have the right *.dll? It seems that everyone now needs them to > do Artifical Intelligence (all rise). Have they changed their attitude, > or is it like: "Here's your AI. Pay the monthly bill to retain your > licence to use it. Any attempt to try to find out what it does or > how it works will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law of > Connecticut."? > > -- Keith > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

June 7, 2024

Re: We've got a meeting next week on the 13th!

by Keith Wright

Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > We've got a meeting next week! Note, I won't be using our own Jitsi server > but going to back to the old one since we've had so many issues. I think part of the problem was with my micophone to webserver interface. At this point I am thinking of this more as a test than a meeting, but I plan to do it. > If there's a topic that people would like us to tackle, I'd be up for it! I haven't been paying a lot of attention to the latest hardware, but the radio said something about ARM processor that caught my attention. ARM means rasberry pi means Linux, no? Wikipedia has an enormous article (the Citations alone are 11 pages two column) but the last thing on the page seems to say that Wine is no longer for playing Windows games on Linux, but that MS needs it to prop up the ass end of their sorry operating system. Is the monopoly gone? The radio also speaks of Nvidia. They sell those Invidious graphics cards. The ones that need special secret drivers that only work if you have the right *.dll? It seems that everyone now needs them to do Artifical Intelligence (all rise). Have they changed their attitude, or is it like: "Here's your AI. Pay the monthly bill to retain your licence to use it. Any attempt to try to find out what it does or how it works will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law of Connecticut."? -- Keith

June 6, 2024

We've got a meeting next week on the 13th!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang! We've got a meeting next week! Note, I won't be using our own Jitsi server but going to back to the old one since we've had so many issues. If there's a topic that people would like us to tackle, I'd be up for it! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

June 5, 2024

Re: Windows 11 wife tech support - replacement for Veracrypt

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "joel" == joel d via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Work laptop and she wants access to files regardless of location > (work, home, road). Maybe a locked down WebDAV thing instead? > I tried Proton drive for 15 minutes this week. As a secure file > storage drive, it works. Tested it with a PDF file and could not > click on PDF to open file in any PDF viewer. I guess its secure, > but not ready for wife. She would just start copying files > elsewhere in C: to get things done, making any security foolishly > pointless. I don't see how she's going to make it work on her work laptop if they don't let her run any .exe files at all on there. Unless the web client allows you to drag and drop files on/off their setup. > Still considering wife support options. I know how it it! :-) One reason why I have limited automation at home.... > Thinking currently about a hybrid option. > Lots of these files in laptop C: drive folders, unsecured, fast and easy. Good for prior work at > prior companies, most word, spreadsheet PowerPoint, pics, etc. > Then certain "precious" files on a fast USB thumb drive at home > (resume, anything with taxes, income, ID or social). It all depends on how anal her $WORK is and how effectively they've locked down things. From the sounds of it, you really need to be looking at a pure web based solution. Maybe even a remote desktop. It's not something I've had to do though... But I do have a $WORK latop which won't let me use thumb drives without using bitlocker on it, which makes it a pain to trasfer files to linux systems. And what I see is painful. But maybe a bitlocker thumb drive which holds a copy of important file. Or maybe she can do somrhing on her phone instead?

June 4, 2024

Re: Flipping pages: new nftable vulnerabilities found..

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > I suspect new patches are in the words even now.. > https://pwning.tech/nftables/ So how many people are using nftables on regular systems, instead of just the firewall? I admit I run OPNsense as my FW. So I should patch it just in case.

June 4, 2024

Re: Windows 11 wife tech support - replacement for Veracrypt

by joel d

Work laptop and she wants access to files regardless of location (work, home, road). I tried Proton drive for 15 minutes this week. As a secure file storage drive, it works. Tested it with a PDF file and could not click on PDF to open file in any PDF viewer. I guess its secure, but not ready for wife. She would just start copying files elsewhere in C: to get things done, making any security foolishly pointless. Still considering wife support options. Thinking currently about a hybrid option. Lots of these files in laptop C: drive folders, unsecured, fast and easy. Good for prior work at prior companies, most word, spreadsheet PowerPoint, pics, etc. Then certain "precious" files on a fast USB thumb drive at home (resume, anything with taxes, income, ID or social). Joel On June 2, 2024 11:23:34 AM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Does she have to be able to access these files while at work or just at home? > > I was just looking at Proton Drive and I think it's the right solution to > her problem. > > Tim. > > > > > > > On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 8:00 PM joel d via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > > > Haven't been able to make a LUG meeting in a few months. Hope all are well. > > > I know it's not the focus of WLUG, but have a Windows based, wife tech > support issue. > > > She is in Finance, not technology, and therefore only uses Windows 11 > laptop provided by her employer. > > > For years she has had a TrueCrypt, and now a VeraCrypt drive she uses for > 'eyes only' stuff like resume and private personal item's. > > > Her new employer locks down Windows, not allowing running of an EXE or MSI > without an admin password. So I cannot continue trend running Veracrypt as > either installed or as Veracrypt portable. > > > Size of files to secure is reasonable at about 550MB today. > > > I am not a fan of USB thumb drives for data reliability long term. To many > LT flaky or dropped in puddles. > > > I am thinking an encrypted Internet Drive setup, something like Proton > Drive or similar. > > > Any known Windows options for me to try for my wife? > > > Thank you, > Joel > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ISYAQ… > > > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers".

June 2, 2024

Re: Flipping pages: new nftable vulnerabilities found..

by Doug Mildram

dmildram> Surprised this seems a relatively NEW BUG as opposed to an OLD BUG/vulnerability NEWly discovered. Reading just a bit of the link Tim sent, where it says under Affected kernels, it seems feasable that all versions from atleast (including) v5.14.21 to (including) v6.6.14 are exploitable, depending on the kconfig values (details below). This means that at the time of writing, the stable branches linux-5.15.y, linux-6.1.y, and linux-6.6.y are affected by this exploit, and perhaps linux-6.7.1 doug/dmildram> I feel safe on this! unless I'm mistaken with my aging 5.4.0 kernel on linux mint 20. Thanks for your looking out for us in general in wlug ! -doug $ uname -a Linux doug0-OptiPlex-990 5.4.0-73-generic #82-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 14 17:39:42 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ cat /etc/os-release NAME="Linux Mint" VERSION="20.1 (Ulyssa)" ID=linuxmint ID_LIKE=ubuntu PRETTY_NAME="Linux Mint 20.1" VERSION_ID="20.1" On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 11:34 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > I suspect new patches are in the words even now.. > > https://pwning.tech/nftables/ > > Tim. > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/NUIH2… >

June 2, 2024

Flipping pages: new nftable vulnerabilities found..

by Tim Keller

I suspect new patches are in the words even now.. https://pwning.tech/nftables/ Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

June 2, 2024