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Re: [Wlug] where is the meeting tonight?

by Chuck Anderson

Yes, there is a meeting tonight. What do you want it to be about? I could talk about "Lsyncd - Live Syncing (Mirror) Daemon". On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 01:02:18PM -0500, Pete Wason wrote: > > and what's it about? > > > > -- > > Pete Wason * Hy Noom Publications * 5088655414 * codevark(a)aim.com * codevark > > "Aborigine left speechless by steady disappearance of native dialects." -- The Onion

Jan. 9, 2014

where is the meeting tonight?

by Pete Wason

and what's it about? -- Pete Wason * Hy Noom Publications * 5088655414 * codevark(a)aim.com * codevark "Aborigine left speechless by steady disappearance of native dialects." -- The Onion

Jan. 9, 2014

Reminder: No meeting tonight, next is tomorrow Thu 1/9

by Chris Thompson

Fortunately, I visited the WLUG site tonight and noticed the change of day (yeah, I missed the mailing list mention of it). Just hoping to make sure others notice too! See you all tomorrow! Did I also miss confirmation on use of the same room? Thanks, --Chris

Jan. 8, 2014

[Super] 8mm Film to Video

by Larry Camilli

When I looked into this several months ago (because I, too, have a pile of old home movies), I discovered: The frame rates of film and video do not divide evenly. So, to get the video to flow at the same rate as the film, extra copies of frames are inserted here and there - at regular, but odd intervals. [I wonder if, on a computer, you could set the video refresh rate and video frame rate to something that would work for the original film frame rate.] There are some relatively cheap set-ups available to project a film on a small screen and video-record it. I can't imagine that the quality would be better than horrible. With the incompatible frame rates, how bad would the flicker be? I vaguely recall that you have to provide the projector and camera. Those once ubiquitous Kodak Instamatic projectors are famous for having brittle plastic gears. I have two such projectors; both broken. [They worked when stored 30 years ago. When I fired each up, little bits of plastic gear went flying.] There is a company I found on the web that provides instructions and parts to restore these things, but... I would think that trying to run an old film through a projector - with the jerky motion necessary to get each frame stationary in the gate when the shutter opens - risks shredding the film. Non-linear scanning at low speed sounds safer. Googling, I found a web site by some guy who was working on his own transfer mechanism. He was using a scanner with fine-enough resolution that he thought it would be OK for such tiny pictures. And, he rigged up some mechanical device to automatically advance the film some number of frames at a time and scan a group of frames. -And, he was working on some software to separate the frames and adjust them so that they're aligned (based on the sprocket holes) because the mechanism couldn't possibly align the frames on the scanner well enough. I'll see if I can find the site again. I wonder if there's pent-up demand for transfer services because the prices are so high. I had hoped to find a co-op or non-profit. But, commercial transfer equipment is so expensive, even a non-profit would have to charge a lot to break even. -Maybe a charitable organization interested in preserving old film and Americana would do it on the cheap? Or, a small number of people buying a (used) $1000 telecine machine could split the cost and take turns... ...and sell it when done? I would think that it'll be worth looking over the films carefully and deciding which are really worth transferring. [I used a microfiche reader to look at a few of mine. It was extremely awkward.] Some of the the companies in/near Boston allow you to use their equipment for free to view your movies. And, there are old viewers (hand-cranked, for editing) around... http://www.thebattles.net/video/8mm_restoration.html http://photo.net/video-forum/003WXX http://vimeo.com/22015773

Jan. 3, 2014

Re: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films

by Adam Keck

I second the use of a new screen and a quiet location. If you can record with a camera with line-in and your projector has line-out, then you may be able to eliminate the ambient projector sound issue by limiting the camera to line-in audio. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bKRCD-06-M looks like a good summary of the process. -Adam On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Mike Peckar <fog(a)fognet.com> wrote: > Project the movies onto a screen and then record them with your current > digital camera/phone/webcam. Some hints if choosing this method: > > Don't use a 40 yr old screen - buy a new one if you have to. > Probably won't get very good quality using a phone or a point-and shoot, > but > ymmv. > Choose a room that is far away from external sounds (street noise, etc) and > darken the room as best you can. > Mount the device on a tripod so that it is centered on the middle of the > screen. > Isolate the recording device from the projector so you don't record it's > noise. Use foam pads or blankets. > Choose some subject-matter or period-appropriate music for the soundtrack, > and just play it on some speakers during the recording session. > Feel free to narrate/comment during the recording session. If also using a > sound track, you can turn down the volume when you speak. > Make tests with various different arrangements/settings. > Use cue cards or digital post-processing to add credits at the beginning > and > end. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Chuck Anderson > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 2:29 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 01:42:05PM -0500, The Hammer wrote: > > I have a bunch of old Super 8 movie films from family in years gone by. > > Can any one recommend an efficient and economical way to convert them > > to digital files? > > > > I see online services available, but they are very costly. > > This video shows you how and then convinces you that using their service > (or > buying their equipment) is better: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm5ePQ5Qxzo > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 27, 2013

Re: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films

by Mike Peckar

Project the movies onto a screen and then record them with your current digital camera/phone/webcam. Some hints if choosing this method: Don't use a 40 yr old screen - buy a new one if you have to. Probably won't get very good quality using a phone or a point-and shoot, but ymmv. Choose a room that is far away from external sounds (street noise, etc) and darken the room as best you can. Mount the device on a tripod so that it is centered on the middle of the screen. Isolate the recording device from the projector so you don't record it's noise. Use foam pads or blankets. Choose some subject-matter or period-appropriate music for the soundtrack, and just play it on some speakers during the recording session. Feel free to narrate/comment during the recording session. If also using a sound track, you can turn down the volume when you speak. Make tests with various different arrangements/settings. Use cue cards or digital post-processing to add credits at the beginning and end. Mike -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 2:29 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 01:42:05PM -0500, The Hammer wrote: > I have a bunch of old Super 8 movie films from family in years gone by. > Can any one recommend an efficient and economical way to convert them > to digital files? > > I see online services available, but they are very costly. This video shows you how and then convinces you that using their service (or buying their equipment) is better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm5ePQ5Qxzo _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 27, 2013

Re: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films

by Chuck Anderson

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 01:42:05PM -0500, The Hammer wrote: > I have a bunch of old Super 8 movie films from family in years gone by. > Can any one recommend an efficient and economical way to convert them to > digital files? > > I see online services available, but they are very costly. This video shows you how and then convinces you that using their service (or buying their equipment) is better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm5ePQ5Qxzo

Dec. 27, 2013

Re: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films

by Strazdas, Rich

Oops, just reread this and my solution is not for super 8! -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of The Hammer Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 1:42 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films I have a bunch of old Super 8 movie films from family in years gone by. Can any one recommend an efficient and economical way to convert them to digital files? I see online services available, but they are very costly. Thanks, Ron PS as a last resort I may experiment with using a projector to play the reels and try to record the projected image with a cam corder. My fear is that there will be too much quality loss this way. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Warning, information subject to export control laws. The information contained within this email may be subject to the International Traffic in Arms Regulation (ITAR) or the Export Administration Regulations (EAR). This information shall not be exported, released, or disclosed to foreign nationals inside or outside the United States without first complying with the export authorization requirements of the ITAR and/or the EAR. This e-mail message is generated from Coghlin Companies Inc. or one of its subsidiaries including, but not limited to, Columbia Electrical Contractors, Inc. d/b/a Columbia Tech; DCI Automation, Inc. d/b/a DCI Engineering Services; and Cogmedix, Inc. This message may contain information that is CONFIDENTIAL, and may also possibly contain information that is being held as a Trade Secret. The information is intended to be disclosed solely to the addressee(s). If you are the intended recipient, any information herein is to be held as CONFIDENTIAL pursuant to any Non-Disclosure Agreement applicable between the parties, or as a Trade Secret as applicable. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this e-mail information is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete it from your computer system.

Dec. 27, 2013

Re: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films

by Strazdas, Rich

There are (expensive) services out there. My daughter and son-in-law recently got http://www.elgato.com/video/video-capture and are digitizing all my VHS and VHS-C tapes. FYI, 1 hour = 1Gb So the cheapest route is to find a relative to buy the kit and do it for you! -Rich -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of The Hammer Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 1:42 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] creating digital files from super 8 films I have a bunch of old Super 8 movie films from family in years gone by. Can any one recommend an efficient and economical way to convert them to digital files? I see online services available, but they are very costly. Thanks, Ron PS as a last resort I may experiment with using a projector to play the reels and try to record the projected image with a cam corder. My fear is that there will be too much quality loss this way. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Warning, information subject to export control laws. The information contained within this email may be subject to the International Traffic in Arms Regulation (ITAR) or the Export Administration Regulations (EAR). This information shall not be exported, released, or disclosed to foreign nationals inside or outside the United States without first complying with the export authorization requirements of the ITAR and/or the EAR. This e-mail message is generated from Coghlin Companies Inc. or one of its subsidiaries including, but not limited to, Columbia Electrical Contractors, Inc. d/b/a Columbia Tech; DCI Automation, Inc. d/b/a DCI Engineering Services; and Cogmedix, Inc. This message may contain information that is CONFIDENTIAL, and may also possibly contain information that is being held as a Trade Secret. The information is intended to be disclosed solely to the addressee(s). If you are the intended recipient, any information herein is to be held as CONFIDENTIAL pursuant to any Non-Disclosure Agreement applicable between the parties, or as a Trade Secret as applicable. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this e-mail information is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete it from your computer system.

Dec. 27, 2013

creating digital files from super 8 films

by The Hammer

I have a bunch of old Super 8 movie films from family in years gone by. Can any one recommend an efficient and economical way to convert them to digital files? I see online services available, but they are very costly. Thanks, Ron PS as a last resort I may experiment with using a projector to play the reels and try to record the projected image with a cam corder. My fear is that there will be too much quality loss this way.

Dec. 27, 2013