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Great News! Technopia is now open to the public!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, I just checked the website and Technopia is now open to the public. So... not this meeting, but hopefully the next one we can have in person! Please let me know how you feel about physical meetings. I'm amenable to waiting another month or two if people are still weary. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Aug. 12, 2020

We've got a meeting on Thursday!!!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! We've got a meeting on Thursday! The pandemic continues and Technopia continues to be closed so we'll continue to meet virtually at our same location... I hope everybody is doing okay. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Aug. 11, 2020

Re: asterisk or other linux pbx

by John Stoffel

Bradley> I’m considering a move from a traditional (and proprietary) Bradley> PBX to something open-source that i can manage. I know very Bradley> little about this, so i’m trying to understand if my goal is Bradley> even possible. Given that our provider (i.e. gatekeeper) is Bradley> Comcast, i worry they prevent running self-hosted VOIP Bradley> boxes. Currently the office has 4 lines supplied by Bradley> comcast. The comcast cable modem has 4 telephone lines going Bradley> into a Panasonic PBX, which they dispatch the calls to the Bradley> POTS phones. I want to replace the Panasonic PBX since its Bradley> proprietary and requires a call into the phone company to Bradley> change anything. Bradley> I have very little knowledge in this area, so i’m wondering Bradley> if anyone here has had experience in this area. At my church we have used 8x8 for VOIP service with some cisco VOIP phones, without problems. Though the cost got too much for us over time. For a business, maybe the first step would be to move to an external VOIP provider like 8x8 before you try to selfhost. If you have a comcast business service, with static IPs, then I'm going to assume you would be all set to host your own PBX. But for four lines... running asterix might be more than you want to do. Though I'm sure there are some vendors out there who will provide on-premise asterix solutions. The tricky part, I think, is getting your numbers ported over, especially if you're doing it yourself. Again, I'd do with a hosted solution, then play with asterix using a fifth number as a self hosted solution. John

July 24, 2020

Re: asterisk or other linux pbx

by Richard Goodman

I can't speak to PBX, but I have four Ooma VOIP boxes on my Charter (business) internet, and there have never been any issues; it just works Dick At 08:17 PM 7/21/2020, you wrote: >Hi All, > >Iâm considering a move from a traditional (and >proprietary) PBX to something open-source that i >can manage. I know very little about this, so >iâm trying to understand if my goal is even >possible. Given that our provider (i.e. >gatekeeper) is Comcast, i worry they prevent >running self-hosted VOIP boxes. Currently the >office has 4 lines supplied by comcast. The >comcast cable modem has 4 telephone lines going >into a Panasonic PBX, which they dispatch the >calls to the POTS phones. I want to replace the >Panasonic PBX since its proprietary and requires >a call into the phone company to change anything. > >I have very little knowledge in this area, so >iâm wondering if anyone here has had experience in this area. > >Thanks! > - brad > >_______________________________________________ >WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >Change Settings: >https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >Web Forum/Archive: >https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/72YV7…

July 22, 2020

asterisk or other linux pbx

by Bradley Noyes

Hi All, I’m considering a move from a traditional (and proprietary) PBX to something open-source that i can manage. I know very little about this, so i’m trying to understand if my goal is even possible. Given that our provider (i.e. gatekeeper) is Comcast, i worry they prevent running self-hosted VOIP boxes. Currently the office has 4 lines supplied by comcast. The comcast cable modem has 4 telephone lines going into a Panasonic PBX, which they dispatch the calls to the POTS phones. I want to replace the Panasonic PBX since its proprietary and requires a call into the phone company to change anything. I have very little knowledge in this area, so i’m wondering if anyone here has had experience in this area. Thanks! - brad

July 22, 2020

Reminder! Meeting tonight! Topic: min.io demo and then general discussion at 7PM!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, We've got a meeting tonight at 7PM! It's still virtual because you know, the pandemic. Hopefully in the future we'll be able to stand 6' apart from each other and hang out! But until then, there's Jitsi! We'll be meeting here: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA at 7PM! We'll likely jibber jab until it's late.. My neighbors house may or may not catch on fire again! I'm going to show off Min.IO running in a docker container. I can show the web interface and then we'll stick some objects in the container. I know that several other WLUG members are also using it in production so it'll be interesting to get their take on it as well. Then I suspect we'll end up talking about all things nerdy! See you! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 9, 2020

Re: recommended printer/3-in-1 laser B+W for general (Linux and Windows clients)

by Tim Keller

It's not that big of a deal as there is a touch screen on the front that'll tell me what the ink levels are. On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:45 PM Andrew Oprea via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > From Linux I can't see the ink levels, that's my only annoyance. > I'm under the impression that "Ink Levels" in that printer and my Envy > 4500 is really "page count" > I don't think there is any type of sensor, but I'll keep an eye out > for interesting behavior as I'm all set to refill my own cartridges > now... > > -drew > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:30 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > > > > Doug, > > > > Granted, not an laserjet printer, but for what it's worth I've got the > $179 HP Envy 7155 All-in-one inkjet printer. > > > > Networking is wireless only. Both printing and scanning just work on > Ubuntu. > > From Linux I can't see the ink levels, that's my only annoyance. > > We buy the XL print cartridges which seem to last a long time.. > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > > > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 7:20 PM Doug Mildram via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >> > >> Thanks! Gotta buy something uncursed, and > >> the curse may vary per user so I feel positive on my hopes when I > choose/toss-dart/intuit the right new....still sleeping on it..... hp or ? > lightweight ( sits near my knees, barely fits ). > >> > >> > >> But how do we know the Linux driver? printers.conf and output of lpinfo > -v > >> seem cryptic if they do show a driver (.ppd?) > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 4:33 PM Chuck Anderson <cra(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > >>> > >>> I've never had any problems printing from Linux to HP printers > connected via IP over Ethernet or via USB. I've also had good luck with HP > and Fujitsu Snascan scanners via USB, but not over the network. Scanning > over the network is something I haven't figured out since I scan so > infrequently and I just go plug the laptop into the scanner via USB. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 01:06:04PM -0400, Doug Mildram via WLUG wrote: > >>> > Hi! Hope this doesnt start a HUGE preference debate, but I'm taking > feedback > >>> > on what some of you already know to be a "solid" not too big laser > >>> > black+white, > >>> > flatbed/top scanner+copier (no top sheet feeder please, adds too much > >>> > space/width) > >>> > BUT THE PAIN is always in the PRINTER drivers/software, win or > linux, in my > >>> > experience. > >>> > > >>> > Honestly, been battling w/PDF's too long, to an old-ish Brother > HL-L2395DW > >>> > 3-in-1 > >>> > --I'm working mostly on Linux Mint 19 (a deviant ubuntu I highly > recommend > >>> > for ex-win users) > >>> > --Printing most things OK. IIRC, didnt have to find Linux drivers > the hard > >>> > way. > >>> > --Printing PDF's gets iffy. LibreOffice sometimes cures my blues; > >>> > DocumentViewer is probably the worst, "evince" also iffy, etc. > >>> > Sometimes "Data received"....ends with a silent chirp, > >>> > sometimes printer panel indicates a quick reject (nothing printed) > saying > >>> > "Out of Memory", > >>> > BUT REALLY it's not the job == big, I think it > >>> > must be a nasty runaway/leaky PDF->driver thing, but if I > >>> > -- copy/email/send the nasty job to a win7 laptop and use AcroRead, > USUALLY > >>> > gets it done. > >>> > > >>> > Until today when ALL seemed to fail, I'm ready to cough up a few > $hundred > >>> > for a better beast, > >>> > with wired ethernet+USB though I suppose it's pointless to avoid > wireLESS > >>> > interface as long as it does wired ethernet. Oh look! Today's > impossible > >>> > job just came out, from where! Losing my mind. > >>> > > >>> > Budget: since not color, I could go over $300 or so, where most of > the > >>> > decent ones sit. > >>> > Been an HP fan for a long time, but things change, and I'm open to > other > >>> > solid models. Thx! > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > >> Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > >> Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/WEERB… > > > > > > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/O4JNP… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ANP67… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 9, 2020

Re: recommended printer/3-in-1 laser B+W for general (Linux and Windows clients)

by Andrew Oprea

> From Linux I can't see the ink levels, that's my only annoyance. I'm under the impression that "Ink Levels" in that printer and my Envy 4500 is really "page count" I don't think there is any type of sensor, but I'll keep an eye out for interesting behavior as I'm all set to refill my own cartridges now... -drew On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:30 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > Doug, > > Granted, not an laserjet printer, but for what it's worth I've got the $179 HP Envy 7155 All-in-one inkjet printer. > > Networking is wireless only. Both printing and scanning just work on Ubuntu. > From Linux I can't see the ink levels, that's my only annoyance. > We buy the XL print cartridges which seem to last a long time.. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 7:20 PM Doug Mildram via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> >> Thanks! Gotta buy something uncursed, and >> the curse may vary per user so I feel positive on my hopes when I choose/toss-dart/intuit the right new....still sleeping on it..... hp or ? lightweight ( sits near my knees, barely fits ). >> >> >> But how do we know the Linux driver? printers.conf and output of lpinfo -v >> seem cryptic if they do show a driver (.ppd?) >> >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 4:33 PM Chuck Anderson <cra(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: >>> >>> I've never had any problems printing from Linux to HP printers connected via IP over Ethernet or via USB. I've also had good luck with HP and Fujitsu Snascan scanners via USB, but not over the network. Scanning over the network is something I haven't figured out since I scan so infrequently and I just go plug the laptop into the scanner via USB. >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 01:06:04PM -0400, Doug Mildram via WLUG wrote: >>> > Hi! Hope this doesnt start a HUGE preference debate, but I'm taking feedback >>> > on what some of you already know to be a "solid" not too big laser >>> > black+white, >>> > flatbed/top scanner+copier (no top sheet feeder please, adds too much >>> > space/width) >>> > BUT THE PAIN is always in the PRINTER drivers/software, win or linux, in my >>> > experience. >>> > >>> > Honestly, been battling w/PDF's too long, to an old-ish Brother HL-L2395DW >>> > 3-in-1 >>> > --I'm working mostly on Linux Mint 19 (a deviant ubuntu I highly recommend >>> > for ex-win users) >>> > --Printing most things OK. IIRC, didnt have to find Linux drivers the hard >>> > way. >>> > --Printing PDF's gets iffy. LibreOffice sometimes cures my blues; >>> > DocumentViewer is probably the worst, "evince" also iffy, etc. >>> > Sometimes "Data received"....ends with a silent chirp, >>> > sometimes printer panel indicates a quick reject (nothing printed) saying >>> > "Out of Memory", >>> > BUT REALLY it's not the job == big, I think it >>> > must be a nasty runaway/leaky PDF->driver thing, but if I >>> > -- copy/email/send the nasty job to a win7 laptop and use AcroRead, USUALLY >>> > gets it done. >>> > >>> > Until today when ALL seemed to fail, I'm ready to cough up a few $hundred >>> > for a better beast, >>> > with wired ethernet+USB though I suppose it's pointless to avoid wireLESS >>> > interface as long as it does wired ethernet. Oh look! Today's impossible >>> > job just came out, from where! Losing my mind. >>> > >>> > Budget: since not color, I could go over $300 or so, where most of the >>> > decent ones sit. >>> > Been an HP fan for a long time, but things change, and I'm open to other >>> > solid models. Thx! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/WEERB… > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/O4JNP…

July 9, 2020

Re: recommended printer/3-in-1 laser B+W for general (Linux and Windows clients)

by Tim Keller

Doug, Granted, not an laserjet printer, but for what it's worth I've got the $179 HP Envy 7155 All-in-one inkjet printer. Networking is wireless only. Both printing and scanning just work on Ubuntu. From Linux I can't see the ink levels, that's my only annoyance. We buy the XL print cartridges which seem to last a long time.. Thanks, Tim. On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 7:20 PM Doug Mildram via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Thanks! Gotta buy something uncursed, and > the curse may vary per user so I feel positive on my hopes when I > choose/toss-dart/intuit the right new....still sleeping on it..... hp or ? > lightweight ( sits near my knees, barely fits ). > > > But how do we know the Linux driver? printers.conf and output of lpinfo -v > seem cryptic if they do show a driver (.ppd?) > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 4:33 PM Chuck Anderson <cra(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > >> I've never had any problems printing from Linux to HP printers connected >> via IP over Ethernet or via USB. I've also had good luck with HP and >> Fujitsu Snascan scanners via USB, but not over the network. Scanning over >> the network is something I haven't figured out since I scan so infrequently >> and I just go plug the laptop into the scanner via USB. >> >> On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 01:06:04PM -0400, Doug Mildram via WLUG wrote: >> > Hi! Hope this doesnt start a HUGE preference debate, but I'm taking >> feedback >> > on what some of you already know to be a "solid" not too big laser >> > black+white, >> > flatbed/top scanner+copier (no top sheet feeder please, adds too much >> > space/width) >> > BUT THE PAIN is always in the PRINTER drivers/software, win or linux, >> in my >> > experience. >> > >> > Honestly, been battling w/PDF's too long, to an old-ish Brother >> HL-L2395DW >> > 3-in-1 >> > --I'm working mostly on Linux Mint 19 (a deviant ubuntu I highly >> recommend >> > for ex-win users) >> > --Printing most things OK. IIRC, didnt have to find Linux drivers the >> hard >> > way. >> > --Printing PDF's gets iffy. LibreOffice sometimes cures my blues; >> > DocumentViewer is probably the worst, "evince" also iffy, etc. >> > Sometimes "Data received"....ends with a silent chirp, >> > sometimes printer panel indicates a quick reject (nothing printed) >> saying >> > "Out of Memory", >> > BUT REALLY it's not the job == big, I think it >> > must be a nasty runaway/leaky PDF->driver thing, but if I >> > -- copy/email/send the nasty job to a win7 laptop and use AcroRead, >> USUALLY >> > gets it done. >> > >> > Until today when ALL seemed to fail, I'm ready to cough up a few >> $hundred >> > for a better beast, >> > with wired ethernet+USB though I suppose it's pointless to avoid >> wireLESS >> > interface as long as it does wired ethernet. Oh look! Today's impossible >> > job just came out, from where! Losing my mind. >> > >> > Budget: since not color, I could go over $300 or so, where most of the >> > decent ones sit. >> > Been an HP fan for a long time, but things change, and I'm open to other >> > solid models. Thx! >> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/WEERB… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 9, 2020

Re: recommended printer/3-in-1 laser B+W for general (Linux and Windows clients)

by Doug Mildram

Thanks! Gotta buy something uncursed, and the curse may vary per user so I feel positive on my hopes when I choose/toss-dart/intuit the right new....still sleeping on it..... hp or ? lightweight ( sits near my knees, barely fits ). But how do we know the Linux driver? printers.conf and output of lpinfo -v seem cryptic if they do show a driver (.ppd?) On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 4:33 PM Chuck Anderson <cra(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > I've never had any problems printing from Linux to HP printers connected > via IP over Ethernet or via USB. I've also had good luck with HP and > Fujitsu Snascan scanners via USB, but not over the network. Scanning over > the network is something I haven't figured out since I scan so infrequently > and I just go plug the laptop into the scanner via USB. > > On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 01:06:04PM -0400, Doug Mildram via WLUG wrote: > > Hi! Hope this doesnt start a HUGE preference debate, but I'm taking > feedback > > on what some of you already know to be a "solid" not too big laser > > black+white, > > flatbed/top scanner+copier (no top sheet feeder please, adds too much > > space/width) > > BUT THE PAIN is always in the PRINTER drivers/software, win or linux, in > my > > experience. > > > > Honestly, been battling w/PDF's too long, to an old-ish Brother > HL-L2395DW > > 3-in-1 > > --I'm working mostly on Linux Mint 19 (a deviant ubuntu I highly > recommend > > for ex-win users) > > --Printing most things OK. IIRC, didnt have to find Linux drivers the > hard > > way. > > --Printing PDF's gets iffy. LibreOffice sometimes cures my blues; > > DocumentViewer is probably the worst, "evince" also iffy, etc. > > Sometimes "Data received"....ends with a silent chirp, > > sometimes printer panel indicates a quick reject (nothing printed) saying > > "Out of Memory", > > BUT REALLY it's not the job == big, I think it > > must be a nasty runaway/leaky PDF->driver thing, but if I > > -- copy/email/send the nasty job to a win7 laptop and use AcroRead, > USUALLY > > gets it done. > > > > Until today when ALL seemed to fail, I'm ready to cough up a few $hundred > > for a better beast, > > with wired ethernet+USB though I suppose it's pointless to avoid wireLESS > > interface as long as it does wired ethernet. Oh look! Today's impossible > > job just came out, from where! Losing my mind. > > > > Budget: since not color, I could go over $300 or so, where most of the > > decent ones sit. > > Been an HP fan for a long time, but things change, and I'm open to other > > solid models. Thx! >

July 8, 2020