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Re: Hosting in-person meetings at library

by Tim Keller

Joshua, That's awesome! Count me in. Later, Tim. On Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 7:51 PM <joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Update: I went ahead with reserving a meeting time for us tomorrow to > ensure it'd be available to the club -- 7:00PM to 8:15PM. > > I hope that helps! > > - Josh > > On Wed, 2021-07-14 at 18:30 -0400, joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com wrote: > > I can reserve a time slot for tomorrow if there's enough interest in going > to the library for a change in pace and scenery. I think it'd be good for > transitioning back to in-person meetings! > > - Josh > > On Wed, 2021-07-14 at 15:39 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > I think it's a great idea! > > Speaking with the Technopia folks, they're interested in having us, but it > sounds like it would happen in the Sept. time frame, I'd like to have a > couple in person meetings before that. > > Is this something people would be interested in doing tomorrow? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:25 PM joshua.gage.stone--- via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > Hey all, > > I've learned that the library in my town is open to the public for > hosting club meetings! More info: > > https://hudsonpubliclibrary.com/ > > Some of the benefits I can think of for having meetings at the library > include: > > - Free hosting > - Free public wifi > - Free on-site parking > - Low noise levels > - Projector and whiteboard are available > - Books, music, movies, etc, are available for checking out > (https://bark.cwmars.org/eg/opac/home) > - Adjacent to many restaurants, most having outdoor seating > - Has EV charging stations nearby > - Access to well-maintained walking trails and public parks > > Cons: > > - Conference room capacity is capped at 10 occupants > - Meetings must end 15 minutes before library's closing time, so would > have to end at 8:15PM > - Many restaurants might be closed by 9PM > > > I could imagine going back to our usual monthly meetings, from 7:00PM > to 8:15PM on Thursdays, then walking over to one of the restaurants > next door for food and drinks. I can personally vouch for these local > establishments, all reachable within a 5 minute walk: > > https://railtrailflatbread.com/ > https://www.wellysrestaurant.com/ > https://newcitymicrocreamery.com/ > https://www.lessthangreaterthan.com/ > https://www.kithandkinhudson.com/ > https://www.horseshoepub.com/ > https://freshwingma.com/ > https://www.medusabrewing.com/beer-garden > > What do you think? > > - Josh > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/J7HU7… > > > > > >

July 15, 2021

Re: Hosting in-person meetings at library

by joshua.gage.stone＠gmail.com

Update: I went ahead with reserving a meeting time for us tomorrow to ensure it'd be available to the club -- 7:00PM to 8:15PM. I hope that helps! - Josh On Wed, 2021-07-14 at 18:30 -0400, joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com wrote: > I can reserve a time slot for tomorrow if there's enough interest in > going to the library for a change in pace and scenery. I think it'd > be good for transitioning back to in-person meetings! > > - Josh > > On Wed, 2021-07-14 at 15:39 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > I think it's a great idea! > > > > Speaking with the Technopia folks, they're interested in having us, > > but it sounds like it would happen in the Sept. time frame, I'd > > like to have a couple in person meetings before that. > > > > Is this something people would be interested in doing tomorrow? > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:25 PM joshua.gage.stone--- via WLUG > > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > > > > I've learned that the library in my town is open to the public > > > for > > > hosting club meetings! More info: > > > > > > https://hudsonpubliclibrary.com/ > > > > > > Some of the benefits I can think of for having meetings at the > > > library > > > include: > > > > > > - Free hosting > > > - Free public wifi > > > - Free on-site parking > > > - Low noise levels > > > - Projector and whiteboard are available > > > - Books, music, movies, etc, are available for checking out > > > (https://bark.cwmars.org/eg/opac/home) > > > - Adjacent to many restaurants, most having outdoor seating > > > - Has EV charging stations nearby > > > - Access to well-maintained walking trails and public parks > > > > > > Cons: > > > > > > - Conference room capacity is capped at 10 occupants > > > - Meetings must end 15 minutes before library's closing time, so > > > would > > > have to end at 8:15PM > > > - Many restaurants might be closed by 9PM > > > > > > > > > I could imagine going back to our usual monthly meetings, from > > > 7:00PM > > > to 8:15PM on Thursdays, then walking over to one of the > > > restaurants > > > next door for food and drinks. I can personally vouch for these > > > local > > > establishments, all reachable within a 5 minute walk: > > > > > > https://railtrailflatbread.com/ > > > https://www.wellysrestaurant.com/ > > > https://newcitymicrocreamery.com/ > > > https://www.lessthangreaterthan.com/ > > > https://www.kithandkinhudson.com/ > > > https://www.horseshoepub.com/ > > > https://freshwingma.com/ > > > https://www.medusabrewing.com/beer-garden > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > - Josh > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > > Change Settings: > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > > Web Forum/Archive: > > > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/J7HU7… > > > > >

July 14, 2021

Re: Hosting in-person meetings at library

by joshua.gage.stone＠gmail.com

I can reserve a time slot for tomorrow if there's enough interest in going to the library for a change in pace and scenery. I think it'd be good for transitioning back to in-person meetings! - Josh On Wed, 2021-07-14 at 15:39 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > I think it's a great idea! > > Speaking with the Technopia folks, they're interested in having us, > but it sounds like it would happen in the Sept. time frame, I'd like > to have a couple in person meetings before that. > > Is this something people would be interested in doing tomorrow? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:25 PM joshua.gage.stone--- via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > I've learned that the library in my town is open to the public for > > hosting club meetings! More info: > > > > https://hudsonpubliclibrary.com/ > > > > Some of the benefits I can think of for having meetings at the > > library > > include: > > > > - Free hosting > > - Free public wifi > > - Free on-site parking > > - Low noise levels > > - Projector and whiteboard are available > > - Books, music, movies, etc, are available for checking out > > (https://bark.cwmars.org/eg/opac/home) > > - Adjacent to many restaurants, most having outdoor seating > > - Has EV charging stations nearby > > - Access to well-maintained walking trails and public parks > > > > Cons: > > > > - Conference room capacity is capped at 10 occupants > > - Meetings must end 15 minutes before library's closing time, so > > would > > have to end at 8:15PM > > - Many restaurants might be closed by 9PM > > > > > > I could imagine going back to our usual monthly meetings, from > > 7:00PM > > to 8:15PM on Thursdays, then walking over to one of the restaurants > > next door for food and drinks. I can personally vouch for these > > local > > establishments, all reachable within a 5 minute walk: > > > > https://railtrailflatbread.com/ > > https://www.wellysrestaurant.com/ > > https://newcitymicrocreamery.com/ > > https://www.lessthangreaterthan.com/ > > https://www.kithandkinhudson.com/ > > https://www.horseshoepub.com/ > > https://freshwingma.com/ > > https://www.medusabrewing.com/beer-garden > > > > What do you think? > > > > - Josh > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/J7HU7… > >

July 14, 2021

Re: Hosting in-person meetings at library

by Robert N. Evans

I am not in MA today, but I am very interested to attend future meetings in Hudson as I live very close to there. Bob Evans -----Original Message----- From: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Sent: Jul 14, 2021 3:39 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Cc: Joshua Stone <joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com>, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> Subject: [WLUG] Re: Hosting in-person meetings at library I think it's a great idea! Speaking with the Technopia folks, they're interested in having us, but it sounds like it would happen in the Sept. time frame, I'd like to have a couple in person meetings before that. Is this something people would be interested in doing tomorrow? Thanks, Tim. On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:25 PM joshua.gage.stone--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: Hey all, I've learned that the library in my town is open to the public for hosting club meetings! More info: https://hudsonpubliclibrary.com/ Some of the benefits I can think of for having meetings at the library include: - Free hosting - Free public wifi - Free on-site parking - Low noise levels - Projector and whiteboard are available - Books, music, movies, etc, are available for checking out (https://bark.cwmars.org/eg/opac/home) - Adjacent to many restaurants, most having outdoor seating - Has EV charging stations nearby - Access to well-maintained walking trails and public parks Cons: - Conference room capacity is capped at 10 occupants - Meetings must end 15 minutes before library's closing time, so would have to end at 8:15PM - Many restaurants might be closed by 9PM I could imagine going back to our usual monthly meetings, from 7:00PM to 8:15PM on Thursdays, then walking over to one of the restaurants next door for food and drinks. I can personally vouch for these local establishments, all reachable within a 5 minute walk: https://railtrailflatbread.com/ https://www.wellysrestaurant.com/ https://newcitymicrocreamery.com/ https://www.lessthangreaterthan.com/ https://www.kithandkinhudson.com/ https://www.horseshoepub.com/ https://freshwingma.com/ https://www.medusabrewing.com/beer-garden What do you think? - Josh _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/J7HU7… -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/W5KG5…

July 14, 2021

Re: Hosting in-person meetings at library

by Tim Keller

I think it's a great idea! Speaking with the Technopia folks, they're interested in having us, but it sounds like it would happen in the Sept. time frame, I'd like to have a couple in person meetings before that. Is this something people would be interested in doing tomorrow? Thanks, Tim. On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:25 PM joshua.gage.stone--- via WLUG < wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hey all, > > I've learned that the library in my town is open to the public for > hosting club meetings! More info: > > https://hudsonpubliclibrary.com/ > > Some of the benefits I can think of for having meetings at the library > include: > > - Free hosting > - Free public wifi > - Free on-site parking > - Low noise levels > - Projector and whiteboard are available > - Books, music, movies, etc, are available for checking out > (https://bark.cwmars.org/eg/opac/home) > - Adjacent to many restaurants, most having outdoor seating > - Has EV charging stations nearby > - Access to well-maintained walking trails and public parks > > Cons: > > - Conference room capacity is capped at 10 occupants > - Meetings must end 15 minutes before library's closing time, so would > have to end at 8:15PM > - Many restaurants might be closed by 9PM > > > I could imagine going back to our usual monthly meetings, from 7:00PM > to 8:15PM on Thursdays, then walking over to one of the restaurants > next door for food and drinks. I can personally vouch for these local > establishments, all reachable within a 5 minute walk: > > https://railtrailflatbread.com/ > https://www.wellysrestaurant.com/ > https://newcitymicrocreamery.com/ > https://www.lessthangreaterthan.com/ > https://www.kithandkinhudson.com/ > https://www.horseshoepub.com/ > https://freshwingma.com/ > https://www.medusabrewing.com/beer-garden > > What do you think? > > - Josh > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/J7HU7… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 14, 2021

Hosting in-person meetings at library

by joshua.gage.stone＠gmail.com

Hey all, I've learned that the library in my town is open to the public for hosting club meetings! More info: https://hudsonpubliclibrary.com/ Some of the benefits I can think of for having meetings at the library include: - Free hosting - Free public wifi - Free on-site parking - Low noise levels - Projector and whiteboard are available - Books, music, movies, etc, are available for checking out (https://bark.cwmars.org/eg/opac/home) - Adjacent to many restaurants, most having outdoor seating - Has EV charging stations nearby - Access to well-maintained walking trails and public parks Cons: - Conference room capacity is capped at 10 occupants - Meetings must end 15 minutes before library's closing time, so would have to end at 8:15PM - Many restaurants might be closed by 9PM I could imagine going back to our usual monthly meetings, from 7:00PM to 8:15PM on Thursdays, then walking over to one of the restaurants next door for food and drinks. I can personally vouch for these local establishments, all reachable within a 5 minute walk: https://railtrailflatbread.com/ https://www.wellysrestaurant.com/ https://newcitymicrocreamery.com/ https://www.lessthangreaterthan.com/ https://www.kithandkinhudson.com/ https://www.horseshoepub.com/ https://freshwingma.com/ https://www.medusabrewing.com/beer-garden What do you think? - Josh

July 14, 2021

Re: VPN Question

by Chuck Anderson

"VPN" is an overloaded term. Here are several different usages: - Remote Access Creates a secure tunnel from a VPN client machine to a remote/corporate network. Depending on the VPN client/server configuration, it may route only traffic destined to the remote network through the VPN while all other traffic goes directly to the Internet. That is called "split-tunnel". The other way routes all traffic through the VPN such that you end up using the remote network's ISP for all of your Internet traffic too. That is called "full-tunnel". This the most common traditional usage of the term "VPN". Standard VPN protocols: IPsec, SSL/TLS, L2TP, etc. Proprietary clients (may use standard protocols, but with proprietary extensions): Cisco Anyconnect Pulse Secure Palo Alto GlobalProtect etc. Standard clients (may interoperate with servers from the above companies, but with reduced functionality) Built-in Microsoft Windows L2TP client Built-in Android VPN client Built-in MacOS VPN client etc. Open Source clients (may interoperate with above companies, but with reduced functionality) openconnect / NetworkManager-openconnect - IPsec, SSL/TLS, etc. openswan/freeswan - IPsec openvpn - this one stands on its own as a non-standard but open protocol/software There are also other VPN plugins for NetworkManager - Site-to-Site Creates a secure site-to-site connection between networks. Often uses the same technologies as the remote access use case above, but instead of running a VPN client on an end-user machine and connecting to a VPN server, it is often configured to run directly on routers and/or firewalls so that an entire site's traffic is securely tunneled to one or more remote sites. - "Anonymizer" Create a secure tunnel to a VPN provider for the purposes of "hiding" your traffic from your own ISP (but not the VPN provider or its ISPs) or appearing to Internet services as if you are located in a different geographical region (e.g. to bypass content restrictions) There are various for-pay and possibly free-of-cost services. As far as I know, they are all proprietary and use their own clients, but I could be wrong. - Routed Provider-Provisioned VPN Creates a private "overlay" network using esoteric protocols such as MPLS and VXLAN, etc. They may be encrypted (using IPsec or some other technology), but are often NOT encrypted because their purpose is different. These are used internally by ISPs, medium/large enterprises, etc. to private a virtual private overlay for segmentation reasons, optionally allowing for overlapping IP address spaces (e.g. mulitple customers of an ISP can be using 192.168.1.0/24 and 10.0.0.0/8 at the same time in separate private network overlays that share the same equipment in the ISPs internal backbone.) Examples: VRF-Lite MPLS-based L3VPN MPLS-based L2VPN/L2 Circuits MPLS-based VPLS EVPN-MPLS EVPN-VXLAN other VXLAN-based overlays etc. On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 09:55:27AM -0400, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > Ron, > > There are a zillion VPN products on the market.. though generally a > specific VPN client is somewhat wed to the server side. Personally I have a > dim view of all things McAffee, but who knows maybe they bought a good VPN > from someone and rebranded it. > Personally I've used Shrewsoft on windows and frankly the built in windows > 10 VPN isn't *horrible*. > > Tim. > > On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 11:25 AM hammerron via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > > > Hey everybody: > > > > A friend asked me about VPNs and I don't know a whole lot lot on the > > topic. They have a Windows computer and are using a McAfee VPN. The > > question is, is this a decent product, should they use it or not or > > consider something else?

July 13, 2021

Re: VPN Question

by Tim Keller

Ron, There are a zillion VPN products on the market.. though generally a specific VPN client is somewhat wed to the server side. Personally I have a dim view of all things McAffee, but who knows maybe they bought a good VPN from someone and rebranded it. Personally I've used Shrewsoft on windows and frankly the built in windows 10 VPN isn't *horrible*. Tim. On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 11:25 AM hammerron via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hey everybody: > > A friend asked me about VPNs and I don't know a whole lot lot on the > topic. They have a Windows computer and are using a McAfee VPN. The > question is, is this a decent product, should they use it or not or > consider something else? > > regards, > > > Ron > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/Q4CVQ… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 13, 2021

VPN Question

by hammerron

Hey everybody: A friend asked me about VPNs and I don't know a whole lot lot on the topic. They have a Windows computer and are using a McAfee VPN. The question is, is this a decent product, should they use it or not or consider something else? regards, Ron

July 11, 2021

No meeting tonight.. sorry for any confusion. Next Meeting 7/15/2021

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, I just got back from vacation. We're going to have our meeting next week instead. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 8, 2021