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Re: [Wlug] Question

by Wesley Allen

Do a home network and hack it together. The sugguestion about getting involved in help-desk work is really good too because all of the sudden you HAVE to learn all this stuff so you can help people (though you may go insane doing it, "I've got 600 messages in my "saved" box on the mail server, should I have backed these up on my local machine?"). If you've got a friend who is a system admin start talking to them as you hack your network, this will have to be a good friend who will not mind giving you advice for free that he charges other people for; but friends can put into English what man pages can only put into "networkspeak", without friends, I'd never even tried to learn linux and would still be a slave of Microsoft. Wes ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:57:27 -0400 >On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 02:25:15PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: >> I've seen good comments made about: >> >> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471345865/qid=997293880/sr=1-24/ref… > >Also ISBN 0-201-43319-2 > >-- >Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 15 >Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | >P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the >world like English did. Er, *as* English did... > -- Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393(a)wall.org> >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Question

by Frank Sweetser

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 02:25:15PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > I've seen good comments made about: > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471345865/qid=997293880/sr=1-24/ref… Also ISBN 0-201-43319-2 -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 15 Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the world like English did. Er, *as* English did... -- Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393(a)wall.org>

Aug. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Question

by Theo Van Dinter

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 01:40:14PM -0400, Gary J. Hanley wrote: > Well, I'm not a Network Admin, but I would suggest the cheapest way to > start is to build a home network with a hub and at least cheap 3 PCs doing > different functions to serve the network (DNS, Sendmail, etc.) I guess it depends on your definition of "Network Admin." If you want to learn network-related services (DHCP, DNS, NIS, Sendmail, etc,) that's more of a System Administrator role. Network Admininistrator implies the focus is on the network (TCP/IP, routing, VLANs, Spanning Tree, etc.) Some folks (myself included) do pieces of both. If you want to be a network-centric admin, I would probably start looking at networking textbooks and possibly work towards becoming a CCNA (Cisco Certified Network Admin.) I've seen good comments made about: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471345865/qid=997293880/sr=1-24/ref… Other than that, you'll probably want to get your hands wet. Find a job as a junior/novice somewhere and learn from folks. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Ensign Rosebud? "He's SLED, Jim!"

Aug. 8, 2001

RE: [Wlug] Question

by Simoncini, Matthew

I have been working as a Unix Sys Admin for Accenture (formerly Andersen Consulting) for the last few months, although I have been with the company for 3 years. I agree with what Gary said and additionally would add getting your foot in the door working at a helpdesk somewhere. I know from experience that most tech companies will look within before hiring from the outside to fill positions. Willingness to learn, adapt to change, and good teamwork skills are also highly desired when companies look to hire. Good luck. Matthew -----Original Message----- From: Gary J. Hanley [mailto:ghanley@world.std.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:40 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Question Well, I'm not a Network Admin, but I would suggest the cheapest way to start is to build a home network with a hub and at least cheap 3 PCs doing different functions to serve the network (DNS, Sendmail, etc.) Get some networking books and tweak, tweak, tweak! After that you can either build up your network with more hardware or take mid-to-senior level classes. Either way it will start to cost you more money as you progress. :-| -- Gary On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Pierce C. Barnard wrote: > Hi, I am interested in becoming a network administrator. Can anyone give > me some information on becoming an admin? _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Question

by Gary J. Hanley

Well, I'm not a Network Admin, but I would suggest the cheapest way to start is to build a home network with a hub and at least cheap 3 PCs doing different functions to serve the network (DNS, Sendmail, etc.) Get some networking books and tweak, tweak, tweak! After that you can either build up your network with more hardware or take mid-to-senior level classes. Either way it will start to cost you more money as you progress. :-| -- Gary On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Pierce C. Barnard wrote: > Hi, I am interested in becoming a network administrator. Can anyone give > me some information on becoming an admin?

Aug. 8, 2001

Question

by Pierce C. Barnard

Hi, I am interested in becoming a network administrator. Can anyone give me some information on becoming an admin?

Aug. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] System crash

by Aaron Haviland

Long, Mike said: > > I am running SuSE 7.0 with the 2.2.18? kernel. I have not compiled my > own kernel before. Last night when attempting to upgrade to XFree86 > 4.1 I somehow f**ked up my configuration and can now only run X as > root and I don't know what changed to cause that to happen. I had > backed up my entire partition so the original configuration files are > around but I am not sure which files I should restore to get back to > my original configuration. Only as root? Try looking at /etc/X11/Xserver and see what the second line reads. The first line in this file is the full pathname of the default X server. The second line shows who is allowed to run the X server: RootOnly Console (anyone whose controlling tty is on the console) Anybody (assuming this is the same in 4.1 as it is in 4.0.x, and the filename is the same in Suse as in other distros...) -- Aaron Haviland orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org orion [at] parsed [dot] net Release the Mongoose!

Aug. 7, 2001

RE: [Wlug] System crash

by Long, Mike

I am running SuSE 7.0 with the 2.2.18? kernel. I have not compiled my own kernel before. Last night when attempting to upgrade to XFree86 4.1 I somehow f**ked up my configuration and can now only run X as root and I don't know what changed to cause that to happen. I had backed up my entire partition so the original configuration files are around but I am not sure which files I should restore to get back to my original configuration. I am contemplating upgrading to SuSE 7.2 with the 2.4.x kernel and reformatting my partition to be a Rieserfs file system. Is this configuration likely to be any more stable than my current configuration? -----Original Message----- From: Ben Dow [mailto:bdow@WPI.EDU] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 10:43 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] System crash Well, XFree86 4.1 is out, which is what I was referring to, but as far as I know, that's a really well-supported video card (the chipset's been around forever)... what kernel are you running? Is it a stock Suse kernel? Do you know how to compile your own, if it might help? On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Michael Long wrote: > I saw on the suse website where there is an updated version of XFree86 > (4.0.2) as well as an updated xloader and xmodules packages. I will be > installing these and see if this solves the problem. > > As for my system components: > ABIT KT7-RAID Motherboard w/ an Athlon 800 > ATI Rage 128 video card > SoundBlaster Live > 2 Realtek RTL8139B ethernet cards > 2 DiamondMax Hard drives > Toshiba CD-RW/DVD-ROM #SD-R1002 > > The output from lspci is: > 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0305 (rev 02) > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 8305 > 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super] (rev 22) > 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] (rev 10) > 00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10) > 00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10) > 00:07.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev > 30) > 00:09.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics Venus Modem (V90, > 56KFlex) > 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) > 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) > 00:0f.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10000 (rev 08) > 00:0f.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! (rev 08) > 00:13.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 > (rev 03) > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF > > > On Monday 06 August 2001 11:34, you wrote: > > I've seen this kind of thing happen for 2 reasons I've been able to figure > > out on my systems... after running XFree86 4 for a few minutes with my > > Diamond (since taken over by S3, now SonicBlue... it's so hard to keep > > track) Stealth III S540 (based on the Savage 4 or 4+, I think), the system > > will lock up hard... 3.3.6 was no problem, and I haven't tried the latest > > version of X, which is now supposed to have special drivers for that > > chipset, and it tends to happen much more often than once every few days, > > but since I know nothing about your system, I thought I'd mention it... > > The other thing that seems to cause it is a lot of hard disk activity on > > an Intel PIIX3 controller (for an old Pentium/166). Copying large files > > to/from a Reiserfs partition with DMA enabled seems to really do the trick > > (I should probably send in a kernel bug report, really)... but that's > > another possibility, I guess. Again, tell us some more about your system > > (lspci often gives useful information). > > Now to wake up. > > > > Ben > > > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Long, Mike wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have been having problems with my system locking to the point where I > > > needed to press the reset button to recycle the box. Well, this happened > > > again and this time things are not working properly after bringing the > > > system back up. I have been able to start networking services and I can > > > start KDE desktop but none of my X applications will run. Now I have > > > several questions: > > > > > > 1) What type of problems could have been created by an improper shutdown > > > of the box? > > > 2) Will reinstalling KDE fix this problem? > > > 3) How do I go about figuring out what is causing my machine to lock up? > > > It is happening frequently (every few days) > > > and when I am doing different things. I have not been able to > > > determine a pattern. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 7, 2001

Secure Modems (A little off topic)

by cc.noyes

Does anyone know of a secure modem(s) that does MD4, MD5 or SHA1 authentication? They would be running with UnixWare and Solaris platforms. I would guess that they're probably O/S independent. Thanks, Chuck

Aug. 7, 2001

Re: [Wlug] System crash

by Ben Dow

Well, XFree86 4.1 is out, which is what I was referring to, but as far as I know, that's a really well-supported video card (the chipset's been around forever)... what kernel are you running? Is it a stock Suse kernel? Do you know how to compile your own, if it might help? On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Michael Long wrote: > I saw on the suse website where there is an updated version of XFree86 > (4.0.2) as well as an updated xloader and xmodules packages. I will be > installing these and see if this solves the problem. > > As for my system components: > ABIT KT7-RAID Motherboard w/ an Athlon 800 > ATI Rage 128 video card > SoundBlaster Live > 2 Realtek RTL8139B ethernet cards > 2 DiamondMax Hard drives > Toshiba CD-RW/DVD-ROM #SD-R1002 > > The output from lspci is: > 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0305 (rev 02) > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 8305 > 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super] (rev 22) > 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] (rev 10) > 00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10) > 00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10) > 00:07.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev > 30) > 00:09.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics Venus Modem (V90, > 56KFlex) > 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) > 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) > 00:0f.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10000 (rev 08) > 00:0f.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! (rev 08) > 00:13.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 > (rev 03) > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF > > > On Monday 06 August 2001 11:34, you wrote: > > I've seen this kind of thing happen for 2 reasons I've been able to figure > > out on my systems... after running XFree86 4 for a few minutes with my > > Diamond (since taken over by S3, now SonicBlue... it's so hard to keep > > track) Stealth III S540 (based on the Savage 4 or 4+, I think), the system > > will lock up hard... 3.3.6 was no problem, and I haven't tried the latest > > version of X, which is now supposed to have special drivers for that > > chipset, and it tends to happen much more often than once every few days, > > but since I know nothing about your system, I thought I'd mention it... > > The other thing that seems to cause it is a lot of hard disk activity on > > an Intel PIIX3 controller (for an old Pentium/166). Copying large files > > to/from a Reiserfs partition with DMA enabled seems to really do the trick > > (I should probably send in a kernel bug report, really)... but that's > > another possibility, I guess. Again, tell us some more about your system > > (lspci often gives useful information). > > Now to wake up. > > > > Ben > > > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Long, Mike wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have been having problems with my system locking to the point where I > > > needed to press the reset button to recycle the box. Well, this happened > > > again and this time things are not working properly after bringing the > > > system back up. I have been able to start networking services and I can > > > start KDE desktop but none of my X applications will run. Now I have > > > several questions: > > > > > > 1) What type of problems could have been created by an improper shutdown > > > of the box? > > > 2) Will reinstalling KDE fix this problem? > > > 3) How do I go about figuring out what is causing my machine to lock up? > > > It is happening frequently (every few days) > > > and when I am doing different things. I have not been able to > > > determine a pattern. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 7, 2001