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Re: Wlug digest, Vol 1 #267 - 4 msgs

by Pierce C. Barnard

At 12:01 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Question (Pierce C. Barnard) > 2. Re: Question (Andy Stewart) > 3. Re: Chart generation tools (John Stoffel) > 4. Re: Chart generation tools (Charles R. Anderson) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 21:09:58 -0500 >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >From: "Pierce C. Barnard" <pcbarnard(a)earthlink.net> >Subject: [Wlug] Question >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Hi, I recently purchased SuSE V7.3 and when I shut it down, it hangs while >shutting down all of the system processes. How can I fix this problem with >the shut down proceedure? > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >charset="iso-8859-1" >From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> >Organization: Worcester Linux Users' Group >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Question >Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 21:34:17 -0500 >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >On Sunday 10 March 2002 09:09 pm, you wrote: > > Hi, I recently purchased SuSE V7.3 and when I shut it down, it hangs > > while shutting down all of the system processes. How can I fix this > > problem with the shut down proceedure? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >Hi Pierce, > >I am a SuSE user. I would like to help, but I believe that I need more >information in order to give you an accurate answer. > >Exactly which command are you using to shutdown the system? Can you send >along a snippet of the last few lines of output on the terminal before it >hangs? Does it always hang in the same place? With this type of >information, I believe that the problem can be diagnosed. > >See ya later, > >Andy > >-- >Andy Stewart >Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA, USA >http://www.wlug.org Hello Andy, the error occurs when I log out of KDE. Then at the Linux desktop login window, I select shutdown, and then SuSE is shutting down, it hangs at the point where the drive shares are umounted and then inet says that the system will be halted immediately. It is at this point that SuSE will say that runtime level 0 has been reached, that it has stopped completely. At this point, the system is still running and I can not turn it off, except by turning the power off. What do you think is causing this to happen? and I will be at the WLUG meeting on this Wednesday. Thank you.

March 12, 2002

REMINDER: Upcoming WLUG meeting

by Andy Stewart

Hi everybody, This is a friendly reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting to be held on Wednesday, March 13th at 7 PM. Please note: the meeting room is DIFFERENT this month. We will be located in Perreault Hall in Fuller Labs (the same place as the January meeting). Directions can be found on the WLUG website. There is an opening for a speaker at this meeting, so if you have something you'd like to present to the group, bring it along and I'll turn over the floor to you. I received a couple of raffle items from the folks at http://theKompany.com. I will have available a copy of Quanta Gold as well as a copy of Power Plant. You can read more about these software packages at theKompany's website. I was told by a company representative that if we wanted to arrange a group purchase of software that we would receive a discount. Please contact me directly if this is of interest to you. After the meeting, we'll make our monthly pilgrimage to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beers, and more Linux talk. See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

March 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Chart generation tools

by Charles R. Anderson

On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 09:27:09AM -0500, John Stoffel wrote: stoffel> I'm familiar with MRTG (and RRDtool) but since I have more than one stoffel> input data set (i.e. I want to record the size and times of multiple stoffel> different backup groups), they're not quite what I want. Have you looked at Cricket? It also uses RRDtool, but is much more extensible and configurable than MRTG. stoffel> I also need to keep detailed info over time, which MRTG doesn't do, stoffel> since it start averaging data and coalescing it. You could always back up the daily RRDtool databases, and keep a history of them. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

March 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Chart generation tools

by John Stoffel

Mike> If yer looking for something that'll aggregate and age out the Mike> data, and produce daily, weekly, monthly and yearly graphs, Mike> check MRTG I'm familiar with MRTG (and RRDtool) but since I have more than one input data set (i.e. I want to record the size and times of multiple different backup groups), they're not quite what I want. I also need to keep detailed info over time, which MRTG doesn't do, since it start averaging data and coalescing it. But thanks for the hints! John

March 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question

by Andy Stewart

On Sunday 10 March 2002 09:09 pm, you wrote: > Hi, I recently purchased SuSE V7.3 and when I shut it down, it hangs > while shutting down all of the system processes. How can I fix this > problem with the shut down proceedure? > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Hi Pierce, I am a SuSE user. I would like to help, but I believe that I need more information in order to give you an accurate answer. Exactly which command are you using to shutdown the system? Can you send along a snippet of the last few lines of output on the terminal before it hangs? Does it always hang in the same place? With this type of information, I believe that the problem can be diagnosed. See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

March 11, 2002

Question

by Pierce C. Barnard

Hi, I recently purchased SuSE V7.3 and when I shut it down, it hangs while shutting down all of the system processes. How can I fix this problem with the shut down proceedure?

March 11, 2002

FS: DSL Modem and Stereo Stuff

by Beaty McCloud

Hi, I know that this is not a forsale list, but I am having trouble posting to wpi.forsale from off-campus. If someone on campus could please post the following it would be greatly appreciated. TIA, and sorry for any inconvenience. -Beaty --------------------------- To see the listing, check out: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&u… If there are any questions then let me know. I may be able to deliver to the school depending on my schedule this upcoming week. Thanx!

March 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Chart generation tools

by Mike Peckar

If yer looking for something that'll aggregate and age out the data, and produce daily, weekly, monthly and yearly graphs, check MRTG ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Stoffel" <stoffel(a)lucent.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 5:29 PM Subject: [Wlug] Chart generation tools Guys, Does anyone have any recommendations for data plotting or charting tools under linux/solaris? I'm aware of gnuplot, xmgr (ACE/gr), grace (ACE/gr descendant) but none of them is really what I want. I'm trying to take a bunch of data from my backups and graph the output nicely. I'd like to have both: - stacked plots (show the totals, with breakdowns by groups). - pie charts for individual days - line charts for trend analysis And of course all of this should be easy to do from the Unix command line and/or control/data files. I currently have a script which uses gnuplot to graph the data, but it's not the nicest. I'm looking into using 'grace', but it's not well documented and it's really pushed more to scientific visualization. I'll try to put what I have up on the web at some point, so you can see what I'm trying to do... but if you've ever used Legato Networker, I've got a tool called 'nss' (http://jfs.ecotarium.org/sources/nss) which generates reports on backups. I'm now trying to take the logged data from that and provide some nice trend analysis graphs as well. Thanks, John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-399-0479 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] itch to scratch...

by Michael Frysinger

heh i encounter the same problem all the time i mount my mp3s via samba and then my windows box reboots. samba freaks the mount and processes get fucked in the ass. here is how i solve it ... drop all packets to your windows machine long enough to kill all the offending processes and umount the drive. iptables -I INPUT 1 -d WINDOWS -j DROP or if thats a prob (like you're ssh-ing from your windows machine :D), add in -p TCP --dport 139 -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> To: <wlug(a)wlug.org> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 09:38 Subject: [Wlug] itch to scratch... > I'd like to figure out a way to "assassinate" processes that get stuck in > the "waiting IO" state when I know there's no way they'll ever come out of > that state. > > I just had to reboot my linux workstation to resolve such an issue. I had > an file system containing mp3's mounted via smbfs. Unknown to me, this > connection had become stale, so when I started up xmms, it hung and > immediately went into the dreaded "waiting IO" state, while holding onto my > sound hardware. I did a df and had that stuck as well, along with the bash > shell I spawned it from. > > I think I'd like to write a "SIGMURDER" signal that would tell the kernel to > just through its tables and forcibly unallocate all the resources a > particular process is holding, close all its handles, etc. > > So before I even contemplate this endeavor, is their away to already do > this? > > Thanks, > Tim. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Chart generation tools

by Mike Lundy

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 08 March 2002 14:29, you wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for data plotting or charting > tools under linux/solaris? I'm aware of gnuplot, xmgr (ACE/gr), My personal favorite is the perl module GD::Graph- if you know perl, it'll probably do everything you need. you can see a graph i made with it at http://mike.vinge.mine.nu/spamlist.png. - -- To smash a single atom, all mankind was intent. Now any day the atom may return the compliment. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyJTSIACgkQqQ38/GgypQZ7lwCfZ6yJjcIyAMMP+9XZ1TGbvlsV 5/IAni+bY+7YZypb3+Z22FzsGVo9QzFl =8JUA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

March 8, 2002