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Re: [Wlug] Cups help

by Chuck Haines

Since there seems to be a decent bit of interest in this script, I'll post when my release version 0.2 today. For anyone who is interested check out http://gforge.maxslack.com/projects/cupsacct/. It's my personal project site and I have put up the first release. I'll be releasing the files here so it's the best way to get them. Not all the components of the project site are working yet (mostly web based CVS) but you can download the release tarball if you are interested. Also note that this script is still heavily modified for specific use in the ECE databases. I'm working on changing it so that it will be more universal and include sql to create the database and tables. Chuck On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:14:59 -0500, Rob Taylor <rob.taylor(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > Chuck: > > I'd be rather interested in (any) details about this > and the SNMP part in particular if/when You have a chance ! > Sounds like a pretty nifty integration. > > Thanks, > Rob.Taylor(a)earthlink.net > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:46:06 -0500 > From: Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Cups help > To: Robert L Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> > Cc: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <a663f660050330074617e32767(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks to everyone's help, but I've figured out the backend stuff and > written my own perl script that does the accounting using mysql. It's > actually really neat and incredibly easy to use. I'm in the process > of refinining it a bit now and if anyone is interested in it, I'd be > more than happy to send it your way. It uses snmp to query the pages > from the printer so it actually determines the number of pages printer > and not just how many should have printed. > -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com http://www.maxslack.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Permanently unloading the usb-storage kernel module under FC3

by Eric Martin

just comment it out from /etc/modules.autoload.2/kernel-2.x (4 or 6, whichever you happen to be using) On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:35:39 -0500, Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> wrote: > Chuck R. Anderson wrote: > > >On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 11:23:44AM -0500, Andrew Robert wrote: > > > > > >>/sbin/rmmod usb-storage > >>This works great but the module reappears the next time I boot the > >>beast. > >>Does anyone know of a way to make this permanently go away? > >> > >> > > > >/etc/modprobe.conf: > >install usb-storage /bin/true > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > Hmm .. > > I could be wrong on this but wouldn't it be > > install usb-storage /bin/false > > Or am I misunderstanding the value of /bin/true? > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Permanently unloading the usb-storage kernel module under FC3

by Andrew Robert

Chuck R. Anderson wrote: >On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 11:23:44AM -0500, Andrew Robert wrote: > > >>/sbin/rmmod usb-storage >>This works great but the module reappears the next time I boot the >>beast. >>Does anyone know of a way to make this permanently go away? >> >> > >/etc/modprobe.conf: >install usb-storage /bin/true > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > Hmm .. I could be wrong on this but wouldn't it be install usb-storage /bin/false Or am I misunderstanding the value of /bin/true?

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Permanently unloading the usb-storage kernel module under FC3

by Chuck R. Anderson

On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 11:23:44AM -0500, Andrew Robert wrote: > /sbin/rmmod usb-storage > This works great but the module reappears the next time I boot the > beast. > Does anyone know of a way to make this permanently go away? /etc/modprobe.conf: install usb-storage /bin/true

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Permanently unloading the usb-storage kernel module under FC3

by Andrew Robert

Jared Greenwald wrote: >Short of rebuilding the kernel without the usb-storage support... > >Isn't there a script that runs vmware? Can't you just put the rmmod >command in there? Or just write a new script that runs during rc1 or >rc0 to run rmmod? > >-J > > >On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:23:44 -0500, Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> wrote: > > >>Hi Everyone, >> >>I have a 160G NTFS partitioned USB external disk drive that I would like >> to use in my VMware instance. >> >>I tried to get VMware to recognize the drive but it failed to do so >>because the Linux USB driver had it locked. >> >>Removing and re-attaching the drive did not release the driver lock. >> >>What resolved the problem was to unload the usb-storage kernel module >>using the command: >> >>/sbin/rmmod usb-storage >> >>This works great but the module reappears the next time I boot the >>beast. >> >>Does anyone know of a way to make this permanently go away? >> >>Any help you can provide on this would be greatly appreciated. >> >>Thank you, >>Andy >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > Good Idea.. I guess I was looking at the problem too closely.

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Permanently unloading the usb-storage kernel module under FC3

by Jared Greenwald

Short of rebuilding the kernel without the usb-storage support... Isn't there a script that runs vmware? Can't you just put the rmmod command in there? Or just write a new script that runs during rc1 or rc0 to run rmmod? -J On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:23:44 -0500, Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have a 160G NTFS partitioned USB external disk drive that I would like > to use in my VMware instance. > > I tried to get VMware to recognize the drive but it failed to do so > because the Linux USB driver had it locked. > > Removing and re-attaching the drive did not release the driver lock. > > What resolved the problem was to unload the usb-storage kernel module > using the command: > > /sbin/rmmod usb-storage > > This works great but the module reappears the next time I boot the > beast. > > Does anyone know of a way to make this permanently go away? > > Any help you can provide on this would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > Andy > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Cups help

by Jared Greenwald

Would it be useful to post it as the text of an email so that it gets archived in the normal manner and people can just grab it from the archives? -Jared On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:46:06 -0500, Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks to everyone's help, but I've figured out the backend stuff and > written my own perl script that does the accounting using mysql. It's > actually really neat and incredibly easy to use. I'm in the process > of refinining it a bit now and if anyone is interested in it, I'd be > more than happy to send it your way. It uses snmp to query the pages > from the printer so it actually determines the number of pages printer > and not just how many should have printed. > > Chuck > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:46:57 -0500, Robert L Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:26:46 -0500 > > From: "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> > > > > Chuck> This is a question for those cups guru's out there. I'm > > Chuck> trying to write a custom perl script for cups that does > > Chuck> accounting. I have a database with users and quotas and I'm > > Chuck> writing a filter for cups that checks to make sure the user > > Chuck> has enough left on their balance before printing. I was > > Chuck> curious how I would go about sticking this into the cups > > Chuck> filtering chain. I've been reading up on the cups docs but > > Chuck> I'm still kinda confused on where to put it. Any help would > > Chuck> be much appreciated. > > > > How are you going to count pages before you send them to the printer? > > > > That was always the problem we had, esp when someone messed up and > > sent garbage to the laser printer at $0.10/page way back in the > > late 80s, and then came up to find a 1" thick stack waiting for > > them... with just one letter per page > > > > Or are you going to pre-render, count the pages, then get the page > > counter on the printer, print, and read the page counter to see > > what actually got through? > > > > I'd also google, since I can't imagine that you're the only one > > who's wanted something like this before... > > > > I'd try the cups-devel(a)cups.org mailing list (you may need to > > subscribe). > > > > This is actually a very hard problem if you don't have a printer that > > will do the accounting itself. Unless you can interpret the codes > > going to the printer, you can't even start to do this. > > > > -- > > Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> > > > > Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 > > Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net > > Project lead for Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net > > > > "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." > > --Eric Crampton > > > > -- > Chuck Haines > chaines(a)gmail.com > http://www.maxslack.com > ------------------------------------------- > Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity > TKE-ZM Web Coordinator > ECE Systems Administrator > ------------------------------------------- > AIM: CyberGrex > YIM: CyberGrex_27 > ICQ: 3707881 > ------------------------------------------- > GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 > GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 30, 2005

Permanently unloading the usb-storage kernel module under FC3

by Andrew Robert

Hi Everyone, I have a 160G NTFS partitioned USB external disk drive that I would like to use in my VMware instance. I tried to get VMware to recognize the drive but it failed to do so because the Linux USB driver had it locked. Removing and re-attaching the drive did not release the driver lock. What resolved the problem was to unload the usb-storage kernel module using the command: /sbin/rmmod usb-storage This works great but the module reappears the next time I boot the beast. Does anyone know of a way to make this permanently go away? Any help you can provide on this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Andy

March 30, 2005

Topic idea

by Mike Leo

Is there any interest in a linux fundamentals talk? It seems like I am the noobi'est member of the lug and don't want to bore everyone, but a discussion around basic installs (partitioning, swap size, boot loaders, etc), upgrades (apt, yum, emerge), application installs (rpm's, source) and kernel patching and upgrades would be a good nights discussion. I don't mind participating in the speaking, but I have plenty of questions myself. Just a thought. Mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

March 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Cups help

by Chuck Haines

Thanks to everyone's help, but I've figured out the backend stuff and written my own perl script that does the accounting using mysql. It's actually really neat and incredibly easy to use. I'm in the process of refinining it a bit now and if anyone is interested in it, I'd be more than happy to send it your way. It uses snmp to query the pages from the printer so it actually determines the number of pages printer and not just how many should have printed. Chuck On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:46:57 -0500, Robert L Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:26:46 -0500 > From: "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> > > Chuck> This is a question for those cups guru's out there. I'm > Chuck> trying to write a custom perl script for cups that does > Chuck> accounting. I have a database with users and quotas and I'm > Chuck> writing a filter for cups that checks to make sure the user > Chuck> has enough left on their balance before printing. I was > Chuck> curious how I would go about sticking this into the cups > Chuck> filtering chain. I've been reading up on the cups docs but > Chuck> I'm still kinda confused on where to put it. Any help would > Chuck> be much appreciated. > > How are you going to count pages before you send them to the printer? > > That was always the problem we had, esp when someone messed up and > sent garbage to the laser printer at $0.10/page way back in the > late 80s, and then came up to find a 1" thick stack waiting for > them... with just one letter per page > > Or are you going to pre-render, count the pages, then get the page > counter on the printer, print, and read the page counter to see > what actually got through? > > I'd also google, since I can't imagine that you're the only one > who's wanted something like this before... > > I'd try the cups-devel(a)cups.org mailing list (you may need to > subscribe). > > This is actually a very hard problem if you don't have a printer that > will do the accounting itself. Unless you can interpret the codes > going to the printer, you can't even start to do this. > > -- > Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> > > Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 > Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net > Project lead for Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net > > "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." > --Eric Crampton > -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com http://www.maxslack.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

March 30, 2005