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Re: [Wlug] computer w/ ubuntu pre-installed.

by J.R. Mauro

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Adam Keck<ghostis(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jason, > I think you will run into two issues with being a straight Linux OEM. The > computer OEM business generally has a relatively low barrier to entry and > it's largely commoditized, thanks to Dell, HP, etc. To make it work, I > think you will need to specialize in some way such that it would be > cost/time prohibitive for new businesses to enter your target market. > Perhaps you could create a blackbox application of your Linux hardware or > learn particular industry that has specific needs (and money ;-), like > Legal, Green Energy, or Medical Records. Right now you are competing with This. Not many people will be convinced to buy a linux machine. ("huh? What's line-oox?") However, if you start selling inexpensive computers with packages of software preinstalled for certain targets, e.g. medical (the amount of Linux software for medicine is amazing. I've seen a lot of MRI machines that have Linux terminals), POS, business management, graphics, desktop publishing, etc., then people might bite. Of course I'd also recommend ample documentation for your "suite" of apps, even if it's just a manifest describing what GnuCash, etc. is for, since people will not be able to figure out the names. Support is also usually a must with Linux if you think non-savvy folks will be customers. > Dell nationally and PC Plus et al locally :-/. In both cases, your > established competitors can probably cut their prices to cost for awhile to > compete. I think it will be hard to get started. > MHO, > -Adam > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> yeah, this is supposed to be a budget box, if i were to build one of >> those i could probably beat their price. but that is a pretty sweet >> deal. >> >> just trying to get my businesses feet off the ground. :) >> >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Jim Dibb<jimdibb(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > For probably about $100 more than what you're asking you could add a 17" >> > LCD, speakers, keyboard, mouse to this and install linux yourself and >> > have >> > 4 times the system. >> > >> > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=… >> > >> > Course it's not pre-assembled. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I recently started a business and i was wondering if anyone would be >> >> interested in purchasing some computers for 339.99 + tax each >> >> >> >> they each come with a 17" LCD, Wireless keyboard and mouse, speakers, >> >> dvd burner, 1gb of ddr2, a 320gb hdd, AMD Sempron LE-1100 and ubuntu >> >> linux pre-installed. >> >> >> >> Add 1gb of ddr2 for $10.00 making the total 349.99 >> >> >> >> (I really need to move these boxes. Im attempting to become a linux >> >> oem) >> >> >> >> thanks in advance, and sorry for the spam :P >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wlug mailing list >> >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] computer w/ ubuntu pre-installed.

by Adam Keck

Hi Jason, I think you will run into two issues with being a straight Linux OEM. The computer OEM business generally has a relatively low barrier to entry and it's largely commoditized, thanks to Dell, HP, etc. To make it work, I think you will need to specialize in some way such that it would be cost/time prohibitive for new businesses to enter your target market. Perhaps you could create a blackbox application of your Linux hardware or learn particular industry that has specific needs (and money ;-), like Legal, Green Energy, or Medical Records. Right now you are competing with Dell nationally and PC Plus et al locally :-/. In both cases, your established competitors can probably cut their prices to cost for awhile to compete. I think it will be hard to get started. MHO, -Adam On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com>wrote: > yeah, this is supposed to be a budget box, if i were to build one of > those i could probably beat their price. but that is a pretty sweet > deal. > > just trying to get my businesses feet off the ground. :) > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Jim Dibb<jimdibb(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > For probably about $100 more than what you're asking you could add a 17" > > LCD, speakers, keyboard, mouse to this and install linux yourself and > have > > 4 times the system. > > > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=… > > > > Course it's not pre-assembled. > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> I recently started a business and i was wondering if anyone would be > >> interested in purchasing some computers for 339.99 + tax each > >> > >> they each come with a 17" LCD, Wireless keyboard and mouse, speakers, > >> dvd burner, 1gb of ddr2, a 320gb hdd, AMD Sempron LE-1100 and ubuntu > >> linux pre-installed. > >> > >> Add 1gb of ddr2 for $10.00 making the total 349.99 > >> > >> (I really need to move these boxes. Im attempting to become a linux oem) > >> > >> thanks in advance, and sorry for the spam :P > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wlug mailing list > >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 28, 2009

Remote access with DansGuardian / FireHOL / TinyProxy

by Andrew C Wilkin

Is there anyone local who knows about DansGuardian? I'm having trouble logging into my work and I'm 95% positive it's because of DG. It's probably some configuration thing I don't know about. Any help?

Aug. 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] looking for PHP 5.2.x help

by John Stoffel

John> I'm looking for some help with PHP5.2.x hacking on a web site to John> cleanup how the user submitted search form is handled. Never mind, I think I've found it with some more googling and other reading and reading and reading of examples.

Aug. 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] computer w/ ubuntu pre-installed.

by Jason Couture

yeah, this is supposed to be a budget box, if i were to build one of those i could probably beat their price. but that is a pretty sweet deal. just trying to get my businesses feet off the ground. :) On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Jim Dibb<jimdibb(a)gmail.com> wrote: > For probably about $100 more than what you're asking you could add a 17" > LCD, speakers, keyboard, mouse to this and install linux yourself and have > 4 times the system. > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=… > > Course it's not pre-assembled. > > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> I recently started a business and i was wondering if anyone would be >> interested in purchasing some computers for 339.99 + tax each >> >> they each come with a 17" LCD, Wireless keyboard and mouse, speakers, >> dvd burner, 1gb of ddr2, a 320gb hdd, AMD Sempron LE-1100 and ubuntu >> linux pre-installed. >> >> Add 1gb of ddr2 for $10.00 making the total 349.99 >> >> (I really need to move these boxes. Im attempting to become a linux oem) >> >> thanks in advance, and sorry for the spam :P >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] computer w/ ubuntu pre-installed.

by Jim Dibb

For probably about $100 more than what you're asking you could add a 17" LCD, speakers, keyboard, mouse to this and install linux yourself and have 4 times the system. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=… Course it's not pre-assembled. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com>wrote: > I recently started a business and i was wondering if anyone would be > interested in purchasing some computers for 339.99 + tax each > > they each come with a 17" LCD, Wireless keyboard and mouse, speakers, > dvd burner, 1gb of ddr2, a 320gb hdd, AMD Sempron LE-1100 and ubuntu > linux pre-installed. > > Add 1gb of ddr2 for $10.00 making the total 349.99 > > (I really need to move these boxes. Im attempting to become a linux oem) > > thanks in advance, and sorry for the spam :P > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 26, 2009

computer w/ ubuntu pre-installed.

by Jason Couture

I recently started a business and i was wondering if anyone would be interested in purchasing some computers for 339.99 + tax each they each come with a 17" LCD, Wireless keyboard and mouse, speakers, dvd burner, 1gb of ddr2, a 320gb hdd, AMD Sempron LE-1100 and ubuntu linux pre-installed. Add 1gb of ddr2 for $10.00 making the total 349.99 (I really need to move these boxes. Im attempting to become a linux oem) thanks in advance, and sorry for the spam :P

Aug. 26, 2009

looking for PHP 5.2.x help

by John Stoffel

Guys, I'm looking for some help with PHP5.2.x hacking on a web site to cleanup how the user submitted search form is handled. Basically I want to make it simple for the end user to a) refine their query, b) not have to answer popups if they hit the reload button, and c) so I can leanr more PHP. I found this nice reference: http://us2.php.net/manual/en/language.variables.external.php which has two sections by "wayne" and "Jonas Lindel" talking about how you can take the results of a PHP POST request, stuff the vars into your session, and redirect back to the same page without the POST vars set, then complete the query. The idea is so that when people hit the "back" or "reload" buttons, they don't keep getting asked whether they want to resubmit their data. It's not strictly needed, but it would be a nice cleanup of the interface. Here's the snippet I'm trying to use, which bombs out with: Fatal error: Cannot re-assign $this in .... on line 45 And the code I'm using is: <? // We want to put the search query into a session so we can restore it // easily when users goto look at full_holdings.php and then return to // the overall display page. We'll need to do a session_destroy in // index.php I think. See the tutorial(s) at // http://www.phpf1.com/tutorial/php-sessions.html // http://us3.php.net/manual/en/book.session.php session_start(); // Now see Jonas Lindel's & Wayne's code at // http://us2.php.net/manual/en/language.variables.external.php for // this *nice* trick. //is there POST or GET data we should look at if($_POST or ($_GET and (!isset($_SESSION['skipnextget'])))) { //is there GET data? if($_GET) { $newgetarr = array(); foreach($_GET as $key => $value) { if(is_array($value)) { //if it's an array, convert it to comma separated $newvalue = implode(',',$value); } else { $newvalue = $value; } $newgetarr[] = $key.'='.$newvalue; } $newget = implode('&',$newgetarr); $_SESSION['skipnextget'] = 1; } foreach($_POST as $key => $value) { $this[$key] = $value; } $_SESSION['postvars'] = serialize($this); //put POST in the session header("Location: http://" .$_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'] . $_SERVER['PHP_SELF'] . '?\ ' . $newget); //reload page without POST data and shorter GET data exit(); } else { //after reloading we'll come right to this spot session_unregister('skipnextget'); if(isset($_SESSION['postvars'])) { //load the POST variables from the session // Error on this line below! $this = unserialize($_SESSION['postvars']); session_unregister('postvars'); //delete the session stuff we //don't need anymore. return $this; } }

Aug. 25, 2009

Re: [Wlug] This is an ancient OS.

by Adam Gomes

XF86Config You have XFree86, not XOrg On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > John et al, I think I have a real problem.. Neither OS uses > /etc/X11/xorg.conf as one would expect. > I think there is a book available entitled "Computing in the Middle Ages". > Could it be????? > > First kjones-sun > > [root@kjones-sun X11]# uname -a > Linux kjones-sun 2.4.20-2.3sparc #1 Wed Jan 15 18:27:52 EST *2003* sparc64 > unknow > > ---------- xrandr is not interesting--------------- > > [root@kjones-sun kjones]# xrandr -q > Can't open display (null) > > ----------------no xorg.conf --------- > > [root@kjones-sun kjones]# cd /etc/X11 > [root@kjones-sun X11]# ls > applnk proxymngr twm XF86Config-4 xinit > xsrirc > fs rstart X XF86Config-4.rpmsave xkb > gdm serverconfig xdm XF86Config-5 Xmodmap > lbxproxy starthere XF86Config XF86Config_orig xserver > prefdm sysconfig XF86Config~ XftConfig xsm > [root@kjones-sun X11]# > > > There seems to be no xorg.conf. anywhere. "locate" can not find it. > > ==================================================== > > Now kjones-sun2 > > kjones-sun2 ~ # uname -a > Linux kjones-sun2 2.6.20-gentoo-r5 #4 SMP Tue May 22 20:27:03 Local time > zone mu > st be set--see zic sparc64 sun4u TI UltraSparc I (SpitFire) GNU/Linux > > --------xrandr -q still not interesting-------- > > kjones-sun2 ~ # xrandr -q > Can't open display > > > kjones-sun2 ~ # locate xorg.conf > warning: locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more > than 8 days old > /usr/portage/app-emulation/vmware-workstation-tools/files/xorg.conf.ferris > /usr/portage/app-emulation/vmware-workstation-tools/files/xorg.conf > /usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.5x.bz2 > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.example > ------------------try /etc/X11 for kicks------------------ > > kjones-sun2 ~ # cd /etc/X11 > kjones-sun2 X11 # ls > Sessions app-defaults chooser.sh mwm startDM.sh xinit > xorg.conf.example > kjones-sun2 X11 # > > ------------------xorg.conf looks like an example----------- > > kjones-sun2 ~ # more > /usr/portage/app-emulation/vmware-workstation-tools/files/x > org.conf > --More--(22%) > Section "ServerLayout" > --More--(22%) > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > RgbPath "/usr/lib/X11/rgb" > ModulePath "/usr/lib/modules" > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/CID/" > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "extmod" > Load "dri" > Load "dbe" > Load "record" > Load "xtrap" > Load "glx" > Load "type1" > Load "freetype" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > ModelName "Monitor Model" > > HorizSync 1-10000 > --More--(75%) > VertRefresh 1-10000 > > ModeLine "640x480" 100 640 700 800 900 480 500 600 700 > ModeLine "800x600" 100 800 900 1000 1100 600 700 800 900 > ModeLine "1024x768" 100 1024 1100 1200 1300 768 800 900 1000 > ModeLine "1152x864" 100 1152 1200 1300 1400 864 900 1000 1100 > ModeLine "1152x900" 100 1152 1200 1300 1400 900 1000 1100 1200 > ModeLine "1280x1024" 100 1280 1300 1400 1500 1024 1100 1200 1300 > ModeLine "1376x1032" 100 1376 1400 1500 1600 1032 1100 1200 1300 > ModeLine "1600x1200" 100 1600 1700 1800 1900 1200 1300 1400 1500 > ModeLine "2364x1773" 100 2364 2400 2500 2600 1773 1800 1900 2000 > > EndSection > > Section "Device" > ### Available Driver options are:- > ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False", > ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz" > ### [arg]: arg optional > #Option "HWcursor" # [<bool>] > #Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>] > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "vmware" > --More--(90%) > VendorName "VMWare Inc" > BoardName "Unknown Board" > BusID "PCI:0:15:0" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 4 > Modes "1024x768" > EndSubSection > > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 8 > Modes "1024x768" > EndSubSection > > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 15 > Modes "1024x768" > EndSubSection > > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 16 > Modes "1024x768" > EndSubSection > > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > Modes "1024x768" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > Thanks, Ken Jones > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 25, 2009

Re: [Wlug] I've posted on Linux Questions

by E Johnson

I had read that at least one of the Samsung Syncmaster monitors really does (allegedly) work at 120 Hz. At least, certain customer reviews at Newegg seem to indicate that. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16824001311 Good luck,'Liz J 2009/8/23 Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net>: > Folks, thank you for your help so far. I have made progress. The image on > my screen is still unacceptable. It will be interesting to see whether > linuxquestions can come up with something > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/belkin-sun-adapte… > > Ken Jones > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 23, 2009