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Looking for advice for home server

by Kevin Stratton

I am looking for a cheap solution for the following: 1) Email server/redireector. I want to have a full custom domain and email addre0ss. 2) FTP server on the same domain as the email server. 3) GUI setup preferred, I do not want to invest the time (right now) to get this working as a 'ground up' project. 4) Total bandwidth needs should be negligible. How would you approach this? At a very high level, I am considering: 1) Dedicating a DDR3 (RAM) era Intel I3 P.C. (sorry, I don not know the generation) and installing NAS software with the appropriate docker plugins, if they exist. I do not know if this is even reasonable. Suggestions are appreciated. I am using a home ISP account. I am aware of DynDNS type services to get around the lack of a static IP. I do not currently plan on using this device as an actual NAS due to security concerns. If necessary, I will use sneaker-net to transfer data, although I am thinking about ssh or even RS232. 2) Renting out space on a service like Amazon Web services. Maybe they have an image that is already what I want. Any ideas/thoughts/experiences would be appreciated. I hope to be at the meeting next Thursday.

Aug. 3, 2024

Re: We've got meeting on the 8th of August!

by Joshua Stone

Perhaps we can contrast the fundamentals of a Linux system with all of the new technologies becoming integral to a modern distribution? I've created a survey to get some insight on these changes in the Linux desktop and how quickly they're being adopted. For example: * more than half of respondents said they run Linux without having to multi-boot * nearly 2 out of 3 of respondents said they use a Wayland desktop session only, while 1 out of 6 said they run X.org only * 2 out of 5 respondents said they install most/all of their applications as flatpaks, while almost none of them install snaps at all You can read the survey results here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1_GmX0flabMP4xPwBXcGTU6QtAmpdRJQbCUU18QZSdH… You can also take the survey here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScKuxJKUQ-uzc-I2Y8Z6n0vZmcsFg_XQzx… Note: Google email addresses are required to take the survey because I want people to be able to edit their responses and not send duplicate responses. - Josh On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 9:51 AM Kevin Stratton via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > If you are looking for more (popular) productivity, try Blender for > video editing. > > I only watch some of the first part of the video and I remember it being > pretty good. > > Blender for complete beginners (video editing) > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh7YPabqeDk (Part 1 of 4) > > Video recording - OBS > > > On 7/31/2024 3:12 PM, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: > > John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > >> So it might be a really good thing for us to show some of this, along > >> with some of the basic apps. > >> > >> - web browser > >> - inkscape > >> - gimp > >> - libre office > >> > >> Basic productivity which most people would want to use. > > I guess what counts as productivity depends upon what you > > want to produce. > > > > I need a web browser (Firefox) to learn about stuff and get it. > > Is there any reason to prefer one over another? > > > > I didn't know what inkscape is. Googled it (with browser). > > It looks like it might be fun to play with, but is it > > "productivity"? > > > > I have used gimp years ago, mostly to make party invitations > > with logo and map. I might have used inkscape if I knew about > > it at the time. > > > > Office, I have heard, can read Microsoft Office documents, > > which is something I refuse to do. Years ago I filtered out > > a lot of stupid spam by setting the SMTP server to reject > > anything with an attached MS-Word file. I think it still > > does that, but nobody sends them anymore. I'm hoping it > > follows Adobe shockwave flash web pages into oblivion. > > > > Besides the browser, my "productivity apps" are: > > > > -- emacs. There may be other ASCII editors, but how > > can one produce _anything_ without _some_ editor? > > > > -- gcc. I am interested in the Scheme programming > > language, but I need a C compiler (and make) to > > make the Scheme interpreter, and everything else. > > > > -- evince. A *.pdf reader. If I download a journal > > article, it's a PDF. > > > > -- TeX, LaTeX. To make my own article.pdf. > > > > -- Postfix, Apache. That's the way I roll. Others > > might think Facebook is a good substitute. Phltt! > > > > This conversation started with a link to a Video. > > How do you make a video? You get the raw material from > > a video camera/"phone", but what software should I use > > to cut and paste, maybe enlarge and crop? > > > > -- Keith > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/N6TYC… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/SMNMC… >

Aug. 1, 2024

Re: We've got meeting on the 8th of August!

by Kevin Stratton

If you are looking for more (popular) productivity, try Blender for video editing. I only watch some of the first part of the video and I remember it being pretty good. Blender for complete beginners (video editing) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh7YPabqeDk (Part 1 of 4) Video recording - OBS On 7/31/2024 3:12 PM, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: > John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > >> So it might be a really good thing for us to show some of this, along >> with some of the basic apps. >> >> - web browser >> - inkscape >> - gimp >> - libre office >> >> Basic productivity which most people would want to use. > I guess what counts as productivity depends upon what you > want to produce. > > I need a web browser (Firefox) to learn about stuff and get it. > Is there any reason to prefer one over another? > > I didn't know what inkscape is. Googled it (with browser). > It looks like it might be fun to play with, but is it > "productivity"? > > I have used gimp years ago, mostly to make party invitations > with logo and map. I might have used inkscape if I knew about > it at the time. > > Office, I have heard, can read Microsoft Office documents, > which is something I refuse to do. Years ago I filtered out > a lot of stupid spam by setting the SMTP server to reject > anything with an attached MS-Word file. I think it still > does that, but nobody sends them anymore. I'm hoping it > follows Adobe shockwave flash web pages into oblivion. > > Besides the browser, my "productivity apps" are: > > -- emacs. There may be other ASCII editors, but how > can one produce _anything_ without _some_ editor? > > -- gcc. I am interested in the Scheme programming > language, but I need a C compiler (and make) to > make the Scheme interpreter, and everything else. > > -- evince. A *.pdf reader. If I download a journal > article, it's a PDF. > > -- TeX, LaTeX. To make my own article.pdf. > > -- Postfix, Apache. That's the way I roll. Others > might think Facebook is a good substitute. Phltt! > > This conversation started with a link to a Video. > How do you make a video? You get the raw material from > a video camera/"phone", but what software should I use > to cut and paste, maybe enlarge and crop? > > -- Keith > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/N6TYC…

Aug. 1, 2024

Re: We've got meeting on the 8th of August!

by Keith Wright

John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > So it might be a really good thing for us to show some of this, along > with some of the basic apps. > > - web browser > - inkscape > - gimp > - libre office > > Basic productivity which most people would want to use. I guess what counts as productivity depends upon what you want to produce. I need a web browser (Firefox) to learn about stuff and get it. Is there any reason to prefer one over another? I didn't know what inkscape is. Googled it (with browser). It looks like it might be fun to play with, but is it "productivity"? I have used gimp years ago, mostly to make party invitations with logo and map. I might have used inkscape if I knew about it at the time. Office, I have heard, can read Microsoft Office documents, which is something I refuse to do. Years ago I filtered out a lot of stupid spam by setting the SMTP server to reject anything with an attached MS-Word file. I think it still does that, but nobody sends them anymore. I'm hoping it follows Adobe shockwave flash web pages into oblivion. Besides the browser, my "productivity apps" are: -- emacs. There may be other ASCII editors, but how can one produce _anything_ without _some_ editor? -- gcc. I am interested in the Scheme programming language, but I need a C compiler (and make) to make the Scheme interpreter, and everything else. -- evince. A *.pdf reader. If I download a journal article, it's a PDF. -- TeX, LaTeX. To make my own article.pdf. -- Postfix, Apache. That's the way I roll. Others might think Facebook is a good substitute. Phltt! This conversation started with a link to a Video. How do you make a video? You get the raw material from a video camera/"phone", but what software should I use to cut and paste, maybe enlarge and crop? -- Keith

July 31, 2024

Re: We've got meeting on the 8th of August!

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Harrington via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > My personal favorite intro video (since basically all of this is still > true in modern linux): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc4ROCJYbm0 Heh, it's only 42 years old, but it's still an interesting thing to watch. But it does miss the point today in alot of ways. I had a discussion with a person last thursday who also complained about us not being quite as good about getting back to basics with Linux and how to install and use it. So it might be a really good thing for us to show some of this, along with some of the basic apps. - web browser - inkscape - gimp - libre office Basic productivity which most people would want to use. > On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 9:51 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> >> Hey Everybody! We've got a meeting and a topic idea! >> >> We've got a meeting on the 8th! >> >> During the last couple of meetings, we've had a couple of new users come by and it was clear to me that we were going into the higher level linux concepts, many of which were flying over their heads. >> >> I was thinking it might be really good to have a back to basics wlug meeting, where we get in get into unix philosophy, what a distro is, what parts make up a distro, common things people deal with, etc. Yeah, nah? >> >> I'm also trying to turn a page here and start the conversation about the meeting more than say.. 2 days before the meeting so the meetings can continue to have their ruckus nature, but actually have some bit of structure! >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ACOXX… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ZJPQ6…

July 30, 2024

Re: We've got meeting on the 8th of August!

by Kevin Harrington

My personal favorite intro video (since basically all of this is still true in modern linux): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc4ROCJYbm0 On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 9:51 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > Hey Everybody! We've got a meeting and a topic idea! > > We've got a meeting on the 8th! > > During the last couple of meetings, we've had a couple of new users come by and it was clear to me that we were going into the higher level linux concepts, many of which were flying over their heads. > > I was thinking it might be really good to have a back to basics wlug meeting, where we get in get into unix philosophy, what a distro is, what parts make up a distro, common things people deal with, etc. Yeah, nah? > > I'm also trying to turn a page here and start the conversation about the meeting more than say.. 2 days before the meeting so the meetings can continue to have their ruckus nature, but actually have some bit of structure! > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ACOXX…

July 29, 2024

We've got meeting on the 8th of August!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! We've got a meeting and a topic idea! We've got a meeting on the 8th! During the last couple of meetings, we've had a couple of new users come by and it was clear to me that we were going into the higher level linux concepts, many of which were flying over their heads. I was thinking it might be really good to have a back to basics wlug meeting, where we get in get into unix philosophy, what a distro is, what parts make up a distro, common things people deal with, etc. Yeah, nah? I'm also trying to turn a page here and start the conversation about the meeting more than say.. 2 days before the meeting so the meetings can continue to have their ruckus nature, but actually have some bit of structure! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 29, 2024

Re: Happy Sysadmin day!

by Michael Voorhis

I've had a few disk failures this week running up to today's 'holiday' which nobody a WPI seems to be aware of. In all it's been pretty boring, which is JUST FINE for me. On 7/26/24 4:08 PM, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > Happy Sysadmin day!

July 26, 2024

Happy Sysadmin day!

by Tim Keller

Happy Sysadmin day! I hope your day has been less eventful than mine! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 26, 2024

Re: Where do I put mount script?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Stratton via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > I have a NAS that I am able to mount using NFS and I suspect that I > can also mount as CIFS. Be careful, you want to mount as one or the other if at all possible. Otherwise there leads madness since the NFS persmission and CIFS permissions aren't really compatible. > I am currently using multicast DNS addresses in the addresses in my > mount command and I do not want to use the numeric style IP > addresses that seems to be required for /etc/fstab. Why? What does this buy you? Do you not have local DNS setup on your home LAN network? > Does anyone have suggestions where to place this mount command > script? This command seems to needs root access, which may limit > where the script with command will be placed. You shouldn't need a script, just add it properly into your /etc/fstab file. But are you trying to access this NAS from both home and while you're at the local coffee shop? So I have my home directory on my home server exported and mounted on a desktop, so when I login to either 'sail' or 'quad' I have the same files. So on sail (a Linux Mint Distro system) I just have: quad:/home /home nfs _netdev,auto,vers=3 0 0 in my /etc/fstab file. And of course I have an entry for quad in /etc/hosts as well, even though it's also in my local network DNS as well. Better safe than sorry. So anyway, the above mount tab entry mounts it on system bootup. John

July 24, 2024